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Started by valpo4life, March 24, 2017, 11:10:00 AM

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M

Rob Edwards just left CSU with a bare cupboard.

bbtds

Quote from: M on March 28, 2017, 08:28:55 PM
Rob Edwards just left CSU with a bare cupboard.

You need to show your sources. Edwards is quoted as saying he will make a decision in the next couple of weeks.


http://www.news-herald.com/sports/20170327/new-cleveland-state-mens-basketball-coach-dennis-felton-promises-aggressive-approach

When a coaching change is made at a D-I school, there are questions about the better players from the previous coaching regime deciding to transfer elsewhere. Rob Edwards, a 6-foot-4 sophomore shooting guard who averaged 16.4 points per game last season, said he is undecided on that front. He has met with Felton. "I'm exploring my options," said Edwards, a second-team All-Horizon League honoree. "I'll make my decision in the next couple of weeks."


bbtds

Quote from: VU2014 on March 28, 2017, 09:41:21 PM
https://twitter.com/BSnowScout/status/846875275178725377

I don't know Brian Snow but yesterday Rob Edwards said he will make a decision in the next couple of weeks. Strange that "other people", not the student athlete, are saying he will transfer.

M

I got it from verbal commits...VC also tweeted last night at 9:34pm that Jibri Blount is leaving the program at CSU.


VU2014

Quote from: covufan on March 29, 2017, 12:28:02 PM
Jack Whitman could be the PF help we could use for one season:

http://verbalcommits.com/players/jack-whitman

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/67189/jack-whitman



I really like the idea of adding a graduate transfer PF next season, because all the PF and bigs will still be young.

Coach Warner may be able to reach out to the William & Mary Athletic Department if he still has a connection there. He spent two seasons as an assistant coach at William & Mary (2004-06), been 10 years but may still know someone.

crusader05

I agree. I'd rather have an impact player who can be a scoring threat right away for just a year than another work in progress.

The odds of having another player like Alec who is going to be making a big impact right from the start is small so get someone who can take some of the pressure off our younger guys while they continue to get their legs under them and learn and grow.

VU2014

One time Valpo commit Zion Morgan (FR) will be transferring from UNLV

https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/847228565875695616

VU2014

Huge blow for UIC losing KJ Santos. Really thought he was going to develop into a really nice player. Just not enough shots to go around I guess.

https://twitter.com/Catch_N_Shoot/status/847217808941342720

bigmosmithfan1

This transferring thing in college hoops has gone totally off the rails.

VU2014

Quote from: bigmosmithfan1 on March 29, 2017, 07:56:04 PM
This transferring thing in college hoops has gone totally off the rails.

Agreed. There are WAY more transfers then usual this offseason. Guys are transferring left and right.

yayphoenixyay

Losing Kolawale and Santos will be a huge loss for the Flames because now teams can comfortably defend Dixson. UIC will be a two man show next year with Odiase and Dikembe.


Like was mentioned above, something needs to be done about the transfer rule. Kids have no incentive to stay at a mid to low major anymore if they even think they have a sniff at a higher level (see Kerem Kanter).

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: yayphoenixyay on March 29, 2017, 11:10:03 PM
Losing Kolawale and Santos will be a huge loss for the Flames because now teams can comfortably defend Dixson. UIC will be a two man show next year with Odiase and Dikembe.


Like was mentioned above, something needs to be done about the transfer rule. Kids have no incentive to stay at a mid to low major anymore if they even think they have a sniff at a higher level (see Kerem Kanter).

Any more updates on Kanter for us?

yayphoenixyay

He's definitely not coming back to us, he officially was granted his release.

One (ridiculous imo) destination according to their own fans is Bradley to reunite with the devil himself, Wardle. That is a lateral move at best and I really do not see why that would make any sense since they already have some bigs and the Braves aren't exactly a spring board into the NBA. Again, that is their own speculation, not mine, and I think its absurd. As of right now, none of us have heard anything other than he wants to go to a top 6 conference, where he'd probably snag about 10 minutes off the bench per game, tops. Maybe out west by his brother, a UNLV, Utah, perhaps, who knows? That is my own pure speculation. In any case, his best shot to make the league was to stay at GB where he was familiar with the system and his teammates and could've thrived as our go-to guy, gaining all-conference honors along the way.

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: yayphoenixyay on March 29, 2017, 11:22:09 PM
He's definitely not coming back to us, he officially was granted his release.

One (ridiculous imo) destination according to their own fans is Bradley to reunite with the devil himself, Wardle. That is a lateral move at best and I really do not see why that would make any sense since they already have some bigs and the Braves aren't exactly a spring board into the NBA. Again, that is their own speculation, not mine, and I think its absurd. As of right now, none of us have heard anything other than he wants to go to a top 6 conference, where he'd probably snag about 10 minutes off the bench per game, tops. Maybe out west by his brother, a UNLV, Utah, perhaps, who knows? That is my own pure speculation. In any case, his best shot to make the league was to stay at GB where he was familiar with the system and his teammates and could've thrived as our go-to guy, gaining all-conference honors along the way.

How about your new 3* signee PF...any thoughts?

yayphoenixyay

I think he might be more of a project, but will be a very good player. His main strength is rebounding and he gets a lot of putbacks. It will be interesting to see how well he integrates into our up tempo style. He isn't going to run by anyone, but he might present matchup problems for guys like Smits and Sorolla in the post since he can muscle his way to rebounds. My bold prediction: our local guy, Will Chevalier, a 6-8 PF, will be our best freshman, and might be our best guy of this class.

bbtds

Quote from: VU2014 on March 29, 2017, 07:24:08 PM
Huge blow for UIC losing KJ Santos. Really thought he was going to develop into a really nice player. Just not enough shots to go around I guess.

https://twitter.com/Catch_N_Shoot/status/847217808941342720

Someone on here had predicted that McClain was going to have trouble with getting enough floor time for all of the talent at UIC. Now we are seeing some of that talent (Kolawale, Santos and Thomas) transfer to other schools where they will get more playing time, supposedly.

FWalum

Quote from: bbtds on March 30, 2017, 06:57:23 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 29, 2017, 07:24:08 PM
Huge blow for UIC losing KJ Santos. Really thought he was going to develop into a really nice player. Just not enough shots to go around I guess.

https://twitter.com/Catch_N_Shoot/status/847217808941342720

Someone on here had predicted that McClain was going to have trouble with getting enough floor time for all of the talent at UIC. Now we are seeing some of that talent (Kolawale, Santos and Thomas) transfer to other schools where they will get more playing time, supposedly.

I had said that UIC would most likely have chemistry issues and that Dixson would not be able to put up similar shot numbers as before if these guys were going to play together.  Well I guess they rectified that problem!!
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VULB#62

BTW, has anyone heard where Lexus is headed?

SanityLost17

Do we want/need Zion Morgan? 

Tevonn and max both graduating after next season.  He would have a year with the program to improve his game and bulk up a bit.  At 6'5 he seems like a guard we should want. 

VU2014

Quote from: VULB#62 on March 30, 2017, 01:18:33 PM
BTW, has anyone heard where Lexus is headed?

Not heard anything yet. Probably waiting till after signing day April 12th to see where chips fall in terms of scholarships, roles, where he can get the most playing time, and best fit are.

Quote from: SanityLost17 on March 30, 2017, 02:02:43 PM
Do we want/need Zion Morgan? 

Tevonn and max both graduating after next season.  He would have a year with the program to improve his game and bulk up a bit.  At 6'5 he seems like a guard we should want. 

I wasn't a huge fan of Zion's game to begin with. I thought he'd become a very good defender eventually but would just be an average offensive 2 guard. I think he'd be a nice role player but not big upside. Just solid.

Zion Morgan decommitted to Valpo because Micah signed with the team. Zion wanted to play point guard and get a decent amount of minutes, so thats why backed out of his verbal commitment to Valpo. I remember correctly he really wanted to play for Wisconsin and they were giving him look. His length and defensive game really fit Wisconsin's scheme but he didn't shoot ball well enough to warrant offer. He was going to go to prep school but then got a last minute offer from UNLV because they hired Rob Jeter (former MKE HC), who scouted him for UWM. Jeter (off the Bo Ryan coaching tree) ran a poor man's Wisconsin scheme in his time at MKE.


SanityLost17

Quote from: SanityLost17 on March 30, 2017, 02:02:43 PM
Do we want/need Zion Morgan? 

Tevonn and max both graduating after next season.  He would have a year with the program to improve his game and bulk up a bit.  At 6'5 he seems like a guard we should want.

Gave it some more thought. 

I think Zion Morgan and Ryan Fazekus are perfect.  Both would get to sit out a year, get stronger, and learn our system.  Both would fill a need.

I say go hard at these 2 guys and give Kiser a scholarship.  We don't need any more active players for next year.  We will have 11 serviceable guys.  We need a couple of redshirt players.   Morgan and Kiser are both 6'5 and can play the 2 guard  (good height for that position).  They replace Tevonn and Max.   Fazekus/Hazen can play together for 3 years at PF.  One is more of a post PF and the other more of a stretch 4.  Gives us options depending on who we are playing.  Burton wants to play the 3, I think that is why he transferred here.  He/Golder/McMillian can cover that for the foreseeable future.  If Golder/McMillian are both a bust Morgan/Kiser/Hazen/Fazekus could all play minutes at the 3 after Burton graduates

I like it. 

valpo84

We definitely need to find a bruiser power forward.  We need toughness and rebounding inside...now!  A grad transfer would be ideal or a JC.  After that we need shooters, last year's gang that couldn't shoot straight cost us games especially after AP was injured.  Morgan does not provide either of the above or immediate help. 
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covufan

Quote from: valpo84 on March 30, 2017, 04:49:54 PM
We definitely need to find a bruiser power forward.  We need toughness and rebounding inside...now!  A grad transfer would be ideal or a JC.  After that we need shooters, last year's gang that couldn't shoot straight cost us games especially after AP was injured.  Morgan does not provide either of the above or immediate help. 
Agreed. 

After Jack Whitman (above), I think that Darien Williams from St. John's and Sean Obi from Duke might fit into our plans.  Obi was injured this year, and also has a year at Rice.  Williams went to a Lutheran HS in CA.

http://verbalcommits.com/players/darien-williams

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3938922/darien-williams

http://verbalcommits.com/players/sean-obi

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66760/sean-obi