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Started by LaPorteAveApostle, November 07, 2014, 07:42:01 PM

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bbtds

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on November 09, 2014, 08:20:16 PMThen bbtds wins the "optimist" award for only picking "over" in all but one, and yet picking the team to score under 63 ppg.

It just means Valpo will play good defense and win close games. Some players will shoot poorly. Anybody else see that after the exhibition game? I was not there but others filled me in.

LaPorteAveApostle

We will win maybe 10 games if we score 63 pg.

Not to help people out here (you're not alone, bbtds), but 63 pg would have put you like 20th worst in the country last year.

So...not telling you what we got last year, but, uh, it's quite a bit higher than that.
"It is so easy to be proud, harsh, moody and selfish, but we have been created for greater things; why stoop down to things that will spoil the beauty of our hearts?" Bl. Mother Teresa

bbtds

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on November 10, 2014, 02:08:15 PM
We will win maybe 10 games if we score 63 pg.

Not to help people out here (you're not alone, bbtds), but 63 pg would have put you like 20th worst in the country last year.

So...not telling you what we got last year, but, uh, it's quite a bit higher than that.

Not that I want to go here but I wonder what Butler's ppg was both years they played in the national championship game.

covufan

Quote from: bbtds on November 10, 2014, 02:58:50 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on November 10, 2014, 02:08:15 PM
We will win maybe 10 games if we score 63 pg.

Not to help people out here (you're not alone, bbtds), but 63 pg would have put you like 20th worst in the country last year.

So...not telling you what we got last year, but, uh, it's quite a bit higher than that.

Not that I want to go here but I wonder what Butler's ppg was both years they played in the national championship game.
68.7 in 2010 and 71.2 in 2011.  But their opponents scoring was much less.  Oh, and they won close games, especially in HL play.

covufan

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on November 10, 2014, 02:08:15 PM
We will win maybe 10 games if we score 63 pg.

Not to help people out here (you're not alone, bbtds), but 63 pg would have put you like 20th worst in the country last year.

So...not telling you what we got last year, but, uh, it's quite a bit higher than that.
I went with a little higher than we had last year, hoping that our TO margin will be less and that we pick up the pace a bit this year.

LaPorteAveApostle

Oh, believe me, I paid attention to what you picked, since you're defending champ :)

I suppose i could play...since it's not like I could tamper with stuff.  Nah.  More fun watching from the sidelines.
"It is so easy to be proud, harsh, moody and selfish, but we have been created for greater things; why stoop down to things that will spoil the beauty of our hearts?" Bl. Mother Teresa

historyman

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on November 10, 2014, 05:42:09 PMOh, believe me, I paid attention to what you picked, since you're defending champ :) I suppose i could play...since it's not like I could tamper with stuff.  Nah.  More fun watching from the sidelines.





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LaPorteAveApostle

Ahen?  Do you need to clear your throat?

It could be your answer to the perennial question of which came first.

Or perhaps it's crossing the road...
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Kyle321n

The sure to be wrong, awful selections of a well documented expert. Also I added a #9 because why don't we have a fun one for Bryce?

1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg - OVER
2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg - OVER
3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs - OVER
4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg  - UNDER
5)  Darien Walker:  78% FT%  - OVER
6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG% - UNDER
7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg - UNDER
8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG% - UNDER
9)  Bryce Drew: 1.5 Technical Fouls - UNDER
10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg - OVER
11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg - OVER
12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG% - UNDER(if he doesn't shoot one does it count for 0%?)
13)  Team:  20 wins - OVER
14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs - 73.4
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bbtds

Quote from: bbtds on November 10, 2014, 01:54:45 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on November 09, 2014, 08:20:16 PMThen bbtds wins the "optimist" award for only picking "over" in all but one, and yet picking the team to score under 63 ppg.

It just means Valpo will play good defense and win close games. Some players will shoot poorly. Anybody else see that after the exhibition game? I was not there but others filled me in.

This isn't like the "Price is Right?" Going over the actual retail price is automatically wrong. I don't know why I was thinking like that. But I will leave my prediction.

valpo84

#35
1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg - OVER
2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg - OVER
3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs - OVER
4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg  - OVER
5)  Darien Walker:  78% FT%  - UNDER
6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG% - UNDER
7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg - UNDER
8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG% - OVER
9)  Bryce Drew: 1.5 Technical Fouls - OVER (by Christmas)
10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg - UNDER
11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg - UNDER
12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG% - UNDER
13)  Team:  20 wins - OVER
14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs - 70.235

Valpo in the Bryce Drew era has a very good record when scoring 70 or more points. Since 2011-12 season (The Bryce Era), by rough calculations, Valpo is 47-8 when scoring =>70 and an amazing 29-2 in conference/conf tourney games.
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Dave_2010


1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg - under
2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg - over
3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs - over
4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg  - under
5)  Darien Walker:  78% FT%  - over
6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG% - over
7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg - under
8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG% - under
9)  Bryce Drew: 1.5 Technical Fouls - over
10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg - over
11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg - over
12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG% - under
13)  Team:  20 wins - over
14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs - 71.9

valpo4life

1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg - over
2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg - over
3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs - over
4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg  - under
5)  Darien Walker:  78% FT%  - under
6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG% - over
7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg - over
8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG% - under
9)  Bryce Drew: 1.5 Technical Fouls - under
10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg - over
11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg - over
12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG% - under
13)  Team:  20 wins - over
14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs - 69.4

covufan

Quote from: covufan on November 10, 2014, 01:15:07 PM
OVER or UNDER?

1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg  -  Under

2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg  -  Over

3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs  -  Over

4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg  -  Under

5)  Darien Walker:  78% FT%  -  Over

6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG%  -  Over

7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg  -  Over

8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG%  -  Under

10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg  -  Under

11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg  -  Over

12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG%  -  Over

13)  Team:  20 wins  -  Over

14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs  -  72.7


I'm assuming that we'll need to calculate Skara's 2pt FG%, as Valpo doesn't publish stats for this.  I'm guessing that team win 21 may come in the HL tournament or other postseason game. 
I see where #9 is now Technical Fouls for Bryce.  I'll take the Over

FWalum

1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg - under
2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg - over
3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs - over
4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg  - under
5)  Darien Walker:  78% FT%  - under
6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG% - under
7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg - over
8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG% - under
9)  Bryce Drew: 1.5 Technical Fouls - under
10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg - over
11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg - under
12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG% - under
13)  Team:  20 wins - over
14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs - 70.8
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justducky

Just for the sake of brevity, while going with my strongest feelings I am only going to answer 1) Carter-under 2) Nickerson-over and 9) Bryce-over. By doing so I think have insured that I will not finish last.    ;D 

a3uge

1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg Under
3.7 APG would match Buggs' senior year career high number, and the highest APG number by a Valpo player since 4.0APG by Jarryd Loyd.

2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg Over
Close one - injury issues wants me to push the Under, but Vashil being in constant foul trouble pushes me to over

3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs  Over

4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg Under
Not enough playing time

5)  Darien Walker:  78% FT% Under
We always suck at free throws

6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG% Over
Most his shots will come around rim

7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg Under
Maybe barely.

8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG% Over

9) Under
Whatever this one is, it's the under.

10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg Under

11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg Under
He's POY if he puts up 17ppg. Broekhoff wasn't even able to do this.

12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG%  Over
Not this one again!

13)  Team:  20 wins Over
Why not?

14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs
70.000

bbtds

How late can I change my #14 the tie-breaker?






historyman

Quote from: a3uge on November 14, 2014, 08:33:10 AM9) Under Whatever this one is, it's the under.
Are you sure? ??? ??? ?
















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LaPorteAveApostle

http://statsheet.com/mcb/teams/valparaiso/team_stats?type=all

I give you some stats, but you should still peruse the link.  After a month:
T1 in the nation in wins.
4th in the nation in FGM.
4th in the nation in 3FGM.
14th in blocks.
...
13th in the country in TOs (most).

Can't win 'em all.

Speaking of which--the results at the one month mark.
                           Is   Result
Carter (3.7 APG)   3.75   O
Nickerson (15 MPG)   12.3   U
T Walker (4.1 GS)   O   O  First one to be a done deal.
Joseph (1.0 SPG)   0.38   U
D Walker (78% FT%)   52.6   U
Skara (49% 2FG%)   57.7   O
Fernandez (2.0 BPG)   2.6   O
Davidson (45% FG%)   25%   U
Adekoya (4.9 RPG)   5.5   O
Peters (16.9 PPG)   19.3   O
Chadwick (35% 3FG)   33.3   U
Team:  (20 W)      O
TB: Team PPG   75.4   

We are, as a group, 63% right so far.  So, good.

It's not close:
1) Valpo4Life 11
2) EddieCabot 9
3) Kyle321n 8
4) valpotx 8
5) Dave_2010 8
6) FWalum 8
7) Valpo2010 8
8) covufan 7
9) talksalot 7
10) wh 7
11) bbtds 7
12) classof2014 6
13) historyman 6
14) ARCInsider 6
15) valpo84 5
16) a3uge 5
17) pgmado 5
"It is so easy to be proud, harsh, moody and selfish, but we have been created for greater things; why stoop down to things that will spoil the beauty of our hearts?" Bl. Mother Teresa

BrettD07

Those "total" stats are all right, but come on: We're among a relatively small group of teams that have played 8 games--and considering we're playing halfway-decently, of course we're going to be near the top in those stats.


More impressive: How about those percentage stats?  We're in the top 10% of D1 for many of them.  Only that free throw % is less than stellar (i.e., miserable).

LaPorteAveApostle

Quote from: BrettD07 on November 30, 2014, 09:36:37 PMThose "total" stats are all right, but come on: We're among a relatively small group of teams that have played 8 games
"It is so easy to be proud, harsh, moody and selfish, but we have been created for greater things; why stoop down to things that will spoil the beauty of our hearts?" Bl. Mother Teresa

talksalot

I know what stat we're missing on this list... Time of Possession.    Oren will know what I mean.

covufan

Looking forward to the next update - after the James Madison game, right?

LaPorteAveApostle

"It is so easy to be proud, harsh, moody and selfish, but we have been created for greater things; why stoop down to things that will spoil the beauty of our hearts?" Bl. Mother Teresa