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Vashil Fernandez Signs with the Miami Heat

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talksalot

One free throw made
One free throw missed
One foul
Played the last 4:26 in a 113-110 loss.

End of pre-season.  Cut announcement due momentarily.

It's 629 miles from the ARC to Sioux Falls... in case you're curious.

wh


wh

#27
Miami Heat waive Vashil Fernandez, Luis Montero, Beno Udrih, Briante Weber and Okaro White

http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=19848


White, Montero and Fernandez also are expected to be assigned to Sioux Falls, unless they take offers overseas.


Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article109908987.html#storylink=cpy


agibson

Quote from: talksalot on October 21, 2016, 09:32:56 PMIt's 629 miles from the ARC to Sioux Falls... in case you're curious.

Or, they come to Fort Wayne November 20, Grand Rapids December 7, and Chicago March 4 (who knew we had a D league affiliate? OK - they actually play in Hoffman Estates, almost as far from Valpo as Ft. Wayne).

agibson

Quote from: agibson on October 18, 2016, 10:55:42 AM
Vashil follower count: 958 on Twitter. Maybe only 63 or new, so far, since the Heat announcement.

Oh, wait... protected account. Was it always protected? I don't remember. But still has the 60 or so new-looking Miami followers.

1754 followers over on instagram. Maybe that account's _not_ protected? But I don't have an account, don't hang out there much.

Up to 994 on Twitter, 1952 on Instagram.

Merely 10% boosts maybe, on top of not-small existing numbers.

footballgods

Dam that Kid can block shots can't he.. We will miss him on the defenses side this year

bbtds

Quote from: agibson on October 24, 2016, 09:27:59 AM
Quote from: talksalot on October 21, 2016, 09:32:56 PMIt's 629 miles from the ARC to Sioux Falls... in case you're curious.

Or, they come to Fort Wayne November 20, Grand Rapids December 7, and Chicago March 4 (who knew we had a D league affiliate? OK - they actually play in Hoffman Estates, almost as far from Valpo as Ft. Wayne).

The Windy City Bulls are playing their first year in the NBA Developmental League. They are an affiliate of and totally owned by the Chicago Bulls. They will be playing their home games at the Sears Centre in Hoffman Estates (11,000). Which can be seen from the I-90 Jane Addams Memorial Tollway. It's on the site of the former Poplar Creek Music Theater for those who remember that music venue.

wh

-- Briante Weber has committed to a D-League return, which means more time with the Heat's affiliate, the Sioux Falls Skyforce.

-- Also expected alongside in Sioux Falls are Keith Benson, Okaro White, Vashil Fernandez, Stefan Jankovic and Luis Montero.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/heat-blog/sfl-miami-heat-orlando-magic-blog-s102616-story.html

bbtds

Quote from: wh on October 26, 2016, 10:59:44 PM
-- Briante Weber has committed to a D-League return, which means more time with the Heat's affiliate, the Sioux Falls Skyforce.

-- Also expected alongside in Sioux Falls are Keith Benson, Okaro White, Vashil Fernandez, Stefan Jankovic and Luis Montero.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/heat-blog/sfl-miami-heat-orlando-magic-blog-s102616-story.html


For those who have been there Siouxland is no small metro area. It counts a total of 1 million people over all of Sioux Falls--Sioux City area.

sliman

Look who's coaching in Grand Rapids:
http://www.mlive.com/drive/2016/10/grand_rapids_drive_look_at_opt.html

It's still not clear to me if Vashil is under contract to the Heat or if he is someone who is eligible for the NBDL draft.  Any experts out there?

IndyValpo

#36
Not sure of the exact answer but he would be considered an NBA Affiliated Player.  The Heat signed him while cutting a returning player which makes them both eligible to play in Sioux Falls. If Fernandez is not one of the four waived players they want I am pretty sure is draft eligible.

This late signing to stock your D League team is becoming more frequent. Last week Memphis signed Butler's Kellen Dunham and cut him the next day for the same purpose.  The Pacers signed Ben Bentil from Providence and cut him the same day as well to get him for Fort Wayne.




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Look at an NBA D-League roster and you will see players at different stages of their careers who took different paths to the pros: Recognizable names from high-profile schools; lesser-known small-school hopefuls. Undrafted players looking to catch eyes; NBA players assigned to gain seasoning.

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RETURNING PLAYERS

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NBA AFFILIATE PLAYERS

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LOCAL TRYOUT PLAYERS

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NBA D-LEAGUE DRAFT PICKS

Every fall, more than 200 players are signed by the league office and placed in the NBA D-League Draft. About half of them are selected on Draft day, which features a field of NBA and NBA D-League vets, international pros, undrafted rookies and NBA D-League National Tryout players.

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Examples (2015-16): Jeff Ayres (Idaho Stampede), Jimmer Fredette (Westchester Knicks), Jabril Trawick (Sioux Falls Skyforce)


NBA DRAFT RIGHTS PLAYERS

In 2014, the Oklahoma City Thunder made headlines for their decision to select Stanford forward Josh Huestis in the first round of the NBA Draft with the intent of adding him to their NBA Development League affiliate, the Oklahoma City Blue. He was called the league's first "domestic draft-and-stash" player.

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NBA teams can assign players with three years of service or less an unlimited number of times, and they're taking advantage of that rule each season.

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Examples (2015-16): Josh Richardson (Miami Heat/Sioux Falls Skyforce), Cameron Payne (Oklahoma City Thunder/Oklahoma City Blue), Norman Powell (Toronto Raptors/Raptors 905)


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Examples: P.J. Hairston (1st Round, 2014), Thanasis Antetokounmpo (2nd Round, 2014), Glen Rice Jr. (2nd Round, 2013)


FREE AGENTS

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EXPANSION DRAFT

When new franchises join the league, an expansion draft is held prior to the start of training camps. Each team can protect the rights of up to 10 players while the three expansion teams can select up to 12 unprotected players, with no more than two selections coming from any one team. The teams will hold the rights to those players for two seasons.

Examples (2016): Peyton Siva (Long Island Nets), Scotty Hopson (Greensboro Swarm), Kiwi Gardner (Windy City Bulls)






   

sliman

Thanks, Indy...I think. :)
The signing of Dunham was, in part, what prompted my question and it seemed clear that teams were signing players they knew wouldn't make the parent team's roster, but were worth keeping an eye on and perhaps filling a roster need at the DL level.  It seems, though, that teams cut more than four "affiliate players" as camps ended so I presume they have to designate which ones they want on their DL team and which they are willing to let go (through the DL draft?).

sliman

The D-league has now posted the names of 182 players eligible for its draft Sunday.  Vashil is not on the list so that would seem to confirm that he is considered an affiliate player.  Dunham also is not on the list, but Roosevelt Jones from Butler, Max Hooper from Oakland, Greg Mays from Green Bay, Joe Thomasson from Wright State and a few other former Valpo opponents are on the list.

talksalot

http://siouxfalls.dleague.nba.com/roster/


Vashil is now listed on the Skyforce roster.... along with:

Brandan Kearney, Detroit-Mercy
Keith Benson, Oakland

talksalot

Since now you will all be watching the D-League a little closer... they are the playground for rule changes... here are the new ones (the second one will be interesting for the folks at the table working the equipment)

NEW YORK, Oct. 25, 2016 – The NBA Development League today announced experimental rules changes for the 2016-17 season:

Each team will be entitled to a "Reset Timeout" in the final two minutes of the fourth quarter and final two minutes of any overtime period.  "Reset Timeouts" do not allow teams to huddle, but otherwise mirror standard timeouts, allowing teams to advance the ball (when applicable) and make unlimited substitutions.  If either team huddles or prevents the ball from immediately being put back into play, it will result in a delay of game being issued to the offending team.  The "Reset Timeout" replaces the "Advance Rule" which had been used in the NBA D-League the past two seasons.

The 24-second clock will reset to 14 seconds after an offensive rebound or when the offensive team otherwise is the first team to retain possession after the ball contacts the rim.

A 75-second limit on the duration of instant replay reviews has been implemented, except in circumstances where the review is for a hostile act or altercation, could lead to an ejection, there is a technical equipment problem or other atypical circumstances.

The NBA D-League continues to serve as a research and development resource for the NBA, testing rules, equipment and technological advancements.  For the third consecutive season, the league will play with the innovative coach's challenge, which allows coaches to dispute either called personal fouls charged to their own team or any play that is currently an NBA D-League replay trigger, other than flopping.  Each team is awarded one challenge in the fourth quarter and each overtime period.

The 2016-17 NBA D-League season tips off on Nov. 11 with an all-time high 22 teams competing in a 50-game regular season.

a3uge



Quote from: talksalot on October 31, 2016, 12:06:37 PM
Since now you will all be watching the D-League a little closer... they are the playground for rule changes... here are the new ones (the second one will be interesting for the folks at the table working the equipment)

NEW YORK, Oct. 25, 2016 – The NBA Development League today announced experimental rules changes for the 2016-17 season:

Each team will be entitled to a "Reset Timeout" in the final two minutes of the fourth quarter and final two minutes of any overtime period.  "Reset Timeouts" do not allow teams to huddle, but otherwise mirror standard timeouts, allowing teams to advance the ball (when applicable) and make unlimited substitutions.  If either team huddles or prevents the ball from immediately being put back into play, it will result in a delay of game being issued to the offending team.  The "Reset Timeout" replaces the "Advance Rule" which had been used in the NBA D-League the past two seasons.

The 24-second clock will reset to 14 seconds after an offensive rebound or when the offensive team otherwise is the first team to retain possession after the ball contacts the rim.

A 75-second limit on the duration of instant replay reviews has been implemented, except in circumstances where the review is for a hostile act or altercation, could lead to an ejection, there is a technical equipment problem or other atypical circumstances.

The NBA D-League continues to serve as a research and development resource for the NBA, testing rules, equipment and technological advancements.  For the third consecutive season, the league will play with the innovative coach's challenge, which allows coaches to dispute either called personal fouls charged to their own team or any play that is currently an NBA D-League replay trigger, other than flopping.  Each team is awarded one challenge in the fourth quarter and each overtime period.

The 2016-17 NBA D-League season tips off on Nov. 11 with an all-time high 22 teams competing in a 50-game regular season.

I like the new rules. I wish the NCAA would adopt some of these. Instant replay in the NCAA tournament has been a complete joke. The shot clock is still too long and leads to more foul-fests in the last minute. There's also too much stoppage in the final 5 minutes overall due to coaches hoarding timeouts. As controversial as this is around here, I'd also like to see the advancement rule.

M

I believe EVN made a D league squad as well.

agibson

#43
Quote from: M on October 31, 2016, 08:53:46 PM
I believe EVN made a D league squad as well.

Sounds like a training roster spot. So, maybe they'll have to trim their roster before games start?

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Via a tryout, rather than the draft. But, still, sounds like a great opportunity!

agibson

Max Hooper from Oakland #16 overall. Butler's Roosevelt Jones #19. Mays from Green Bay #30. Joe Thomasson from Wright State #42 (probably I should remember him better?). 105 players drafted overall. 6 rounds.

http://dleague.nba.com/news/2016-nba-d-league-draft-board/