There are 19 former Valparaiso men's basketball players still playing Division I basketball. Here's how they're doing this year...
it struck me that a good number of these guys have played for 3-4 schools. That vagabond nature can’t be very fulfilling, especially if it’s bouncing between schools with so-so records.
Hopefully it gets better for Cooper. So far this is not a Krikke redux, of going to a major conference and becoming a successful starter.
As a btw...Krikke is playing in Lithuania averaging 10.5 off the bench
There are 19 former Valparaiso men's basketball players still playing Division I basketball. Here's how they're doing this year...
it struck me that a good number of these guys have played for 3-4 schools. That vagabond nature can’t be very fulfilling, especially if it’s bouncing between schools with so-so records.
Hopefully it gets better for Cooper. So far this is not a Krikke redux, of going to a major conference and becoming a successful starter.
Many players who are on their 3rd or 4th school are finding out that they get to the end of year 4 and don't qualify for graduation due to some or the needed credits not transferring through from one school to the other. This is a less talked about aspect of the modern-day portal process.
@iyellatgames An excellent point. The bodies physically transfer, but all the accumulated credits might not. And for many, it inevitably results in a crappy migration toward a questionable basketball end, and …………no degree after, 4, 5 or even 6 years. It’s yet another issue with the current CBB free-for-all. And it all revolves around the money, not the quote “student athlete” unquote well being. Say what you want about the old NCAA, but at least there was some lip service to getting kids graduated.
IMHO, college athletes are being used as chattel even more now than ever before (but, of course, they are being “paid.”)
There are 19 former Valparaiso men's basketball players still playing Division I basketball. Here's how they're doing this year...
it struck me that a good number of these guys have played for 3-4 schools. That vagabond nature can’t be very fulfilling, especially if it’s bouncing between schools with so-so records.
Hopefully it gets better for Cooper. So far this is not a Krikke redux, of going to a major conference and becoming a successful starter.
Many players who are on their 3rd or 4th school are finding out that they get to the end of year 4 and don't qualify for graduation due to some or the needed credits not transferring through from one school to the other. This is a less talked about aspect of the modern-day portal process.
In a system where everyone is trying to use each other in an effort to get the slightest edge, and where pro salaries are being paid under the NIL pretext, I can't feel bad for a student-athlete who doesn't care enough about his (free+++) college education to make sure his credits transfer. Some will win, others will lose in this very corrupted scheme. It's a big whatever.
I'm not holding my breath for Charlie "What, me worry?" Baker to change this.
Even if there was a person with the full power and initiative to change the situation, the courts would end up deciding the end result which is not likely to work out in "our" favor.
So it ain't changin'.
I also would not put the blame for most of this on Charlie Baker or the NCAA. Beyond the initial wave of scumminess. Like Jd said, the lawsuits rule the ncaa at the moment. Everything following has been a cascade of lawsuits with Judges being too quick to sign the dotted line than to think about the reprecussions for doing so.
This is more of a general phrase, but, a lot of people are quick to say "Why doesnt the NCAA care" or "Why doesnt the NCAA do anything about xyz". When the answer is, they have tried, and they continue to try, to enforce their rules, but every time they try to stop the bleeding, another judge cuts another wound by signing their name on more dotted lines
I also would not put the blame for most of this on Charlie Baker or the NCAA. Beyond the initial wave of scumminess. Like Jd said, the lawsuits rule the ncaa at the moment. Everything following has been a cascade of lawsuits with Judges being too quick to sign the dotted line than to think about the reprecussions for doing so.
This is more of a general phrase, but, a lot of people are quick to say "Why doesnt the NCAA care" or "Why doesnt the NCAA do anything about xyz". When the answer is, they have tried, and they continue to try, to enforce their rules, but every time they try to stop the bleeding, another judge cuts another wound by signing their name on more dotted lines
There are plenty of things the NCAA and the schools can do. They can end athletic scholarships completely and base gift aid into need-based and merit-based determinations, like for any other students. Then make compensation in D1 sports based completely on performance, using gate & media revenues, sales of school attire, and NIL. In other words, end the "student-athlete" pretext and treat D1 sports as essentially professional sports using a collegiate affiliation. For players making big bucks, that counts as income towards whether they are eligible for need-based financial aid.
I also would not put the blame for most of this on Charlie Baker or the NCAA. Beyond the initial wave of scumminess. Like Jd said, the lawsuits rule the ncaa at the moment. Everything following has been a cascade of lawsuits with Judges being too quick to sign the dotted line than to think about the reprecussions for doing so.
This is more of a general phrase, but, a lot of people are quick to say "Why doesnt the NCAA care" or "Why doesnt the NCAA do anything about xyz". When the answer is, they have tried, and they continue to try, to enforce their rules, but every time they try to stop the bleeding, another judge cuts another wound by signing their name on more dotted lines
There are plenty of things the NCAA and the schools can do. They can end athletic scholarships completely and base gift aid into need-based and merit-based determinations, like for any other students. Then make compensation in D1 sports based completely on performance, using gate & media revenues, sales of school attire, and NIL. In other words, end the "student-athlete" pretext and treat D1 sports as essentially professional sports using a collegiate affiliation. For players making big bucks, that counts as income towards whether they are eligible for need-based financial aid.
My initial reaction to this is that you'd be punishing the majority of NCAA athletes at any scholarship level in order to supposedly have control over those who are causing the angst within the high exposure sports.
Piggy backing off of what jd said, but doing what you described @david81 would likely result in another lawsuit that would get ruled in favor of the "victims". The only logical path forward is if the NCAA were to convince Congress to pass a bill giving them safeguards. But in order for them to get safeguards, they would have to be a professional sports league. Much like how the NFL NBA, MLB, etc etc all get safeguards as a legal Monopoly
Piggy backing off of what jd said, but doing what you described @david81 would likely result in another lawsuit that would get ruled in favor of the "victims". The only logical path forward is if the NCAA were to convince Congress to pass a bill giving them safeguards. But in order for them to get safeguards, they would have to be a professional sports league. Much like how the NFL NBA, MLB, etc etc all get safeguards as a legal Monopoly
Many of the pertinent legal issues surround definitions of employee status in terms of income-generating college sports and rights to profit from one's name/image/likeness. By contrast, D3 and NAIA sports have already established the right of schools not to provide athletic scholarships for what, at that level, are properly thought of as elective student activities.
In essence, a lawsuit that challenges the end of athletic scholarships as university policy would fail, as no one has the legal right to gift aid to play sports in college. Perhaps those currently receiving athletic scholarships would be entitled to continue on some kind of a contract/reliance theory, but once they cycled through, it would be (sorry) game over.
At that point, it would be appropriate to set up D1 sports as a professional endeavor, with minimum salaries based on individual performance, revenue generation, and NIL rights. The only academic check would be to ensure that the players meet minimum admissions and eligibility requirements.
A Facebook post popped up on my iPad. Keith Freeman.
He’s the Associate WHBB Coach at the University of New Mexico. He’s been there now for four seasons. His bio includes his pretty long tenure at Valpo. Can someone relate the reason why he left Valpo? We did pretty good in the Mid-Con under him and have never come close since.
I also would not put the blame for most of this on Charlie Baker or the NCAA. Beyond the initial wave of scumminess. Like Jd said, the lawsuits rule the ncaa at the moment. Everything following has been a cascade of lawsuits with Judges being too quick to sign the dotted line than to think about the reprecussions for doing so.
This is more of a general phrase, but, a lot of people are quick to say "Why doesnt the NCAA care" or "Why doesnt the NCAA do anything about xyz". When the answer is, they have tried, and they continue to try, to enforce their rules, but every time they try to stop the bleeding, another judge cuts another wound by signing their name on more dotted lines
There are plenty of things the NCAA and the schools can do. They can end athletic scholarships completely and base gift aid into need-based and merit-based determinations, like for any other students. Then make compensation in D1 sports based completely on performance, using gate & media revenues, sales of school attire, and NIL. In other words, end the "student-athlete" pretext and treat D1 sports as essentially professional sports using a collegiate affiliation. For players making big bucks, that counts as income towards whether they are eligible for need-based financial aid.
Unfortunately, for all intents and purposes, the NCAA has their authority stripped from them by the supreme Court. Now we have guys who have not just played summer league, but played reall NBA minutes getting scouted by college teams. The teams are dating the NCAA to step in, because when they do, it's just another lawsuit. I wouldn't be surprised if athletes, under your model, sue under the pretenses of unfair treatment because "other students get scholarships, why am I barred from them".
Sure it's a dumb argument. But I have seen worse arguments come forth during the initial wave of lawsuits
A Facebook post popped up on my iPad. Keith Freeman.
He’s the Associate WHBB Coach at the University of New Mexico. He’s been there now for four seasons. His bio includes his pretty long tenure at Valpo. Can someone relate the reason why he left Valpo? We did pretty good in the Mid-Con under him and have never come close since.
He was very successful at Valpo but his last 3 years were disastrous winning about 33%. Personally I thought the timing was correct (others do not). The big mistake was hiring Dorow who was not ready for D1. Freeman puts us in a bad way, Dorow sank us further. Evans wasn't the answer but was an improvement over Dorow. Boyd????
Sheldon Edwards averaging 13 points per game and shooting 40 percent from three point range for Texas in the G-League. That surprises me!
This doesn't surprise me. Sheldon's game is a great fit for the G-League, as he can be a high volume shooter when he is hot. It likely won't translate to the NBA, but he is a legit scorer, when he is given opportunities to shoot in volume.
