I brought over some of the posts from the "Predicting November" thread on Murray State to this game thread.
Quote from: bw12 on October 30, 2013, 09:05:28 AM
Not only did they lose a lot of talent, but they also lost their starting point guard and arguably best player. With their recent run, their name carries of weight, but they are in a very similar reloading/rebuilding situation as us. I am excited to see how we match up against a team very similar, but one we should beat at home.
Can't post a link, but here is the quote from a story on ESPN. "Murray State point guard Zay Jackson, who was expected to be the Racers top player this season, is out for the year after suffering a knee injury in practice on Saturday."
That being said we should win all our games at home, but I predict loses to Illinois, Ohio, and then against any random team just because we are not on our game.
Quote from: bbtds on October 30, 2013, 10:07:12 AMHere's what Murray State has
NEWCOMERS
Cameron Payne
6-2 freshman guard
Luasanne Collegiate School Memphis, TN
Mr. Basketball in Tennessee
HS team won 2A Tenn State Championship
20 points per game
10 assists per game
Jonathon Fairell
6-7 junior forward
River State College Ft Pierce, FL
17.7 points per game
11.8 rebounds per game
Jarvis Williams
6-8 junior forward
Gordon State College Barnesville, GA
19 points per game
10 rebounds per game
HS team won State Championship in GA
Jeff Martin
5-11 freshman guard
Seven Lakes HS Katy, TX
13 points per game
5 assists and 3 steals per game
T.J. Sapp (won't play against Valpo)
6-3 junior guard
transfer from Clemson but just like Keith Carter
won't play until 2nd semester
RETURNING:
Dexter Fields
6-2 senior guard
transfer from UAB two years ago
scored 12 against Valpo
had 8 double digit scoring games
6.5 points per game
Jeffery Moss
6-4 sophomore forward
21.4 minutes per game
4 double digit scoring games
4.4 points per game
There are other returnees but none with significant minutes.
The loss of Zay Jackson is really going to hurt them. He red-shirted last year and looked to have a lot of talent.
http://www.midmajormadness.com/ohio-valley-conference/2013/10/7/4814030/murray-state-guard-zay-jackson-tears-acl-out-for-season
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With a tough schedule, and little in the way of experience, the Racers outlook wasn't great with a fully healthy Jackson, with most, including us (Foreshadowing!), picking the Racers in the middle of the OVC West Division. Now, the Racers have an even steeper climb to stay with the top of the conference, and possibly even to keep their impressive streak of 26-straight winning seasons intact.
If ever there was a time for a loud, student led, ARC crowd it's against this newbie Racers team.
Quote from: classof2014 on October 30, 2013, 10:41:24 AM
I think we should be able to handle Murray State. I think they're in a similar boat as we are, a lot of unknowns and their first game being on the road and especially losing their PG for the season will definitely hurt them quite a bit.
I just looked and they lost quite a bit from last season. In that game they only had 17 points coming from players who are on this roster as well and 12 of them from one player (Dexter Fields). While we return 25 points of scoring from that game. I know we lost a lot of talent but I think they lost more than we did and now without them having a starting PG, I think it makes a Valpo win that much more likely on opening night.
Not gonna guarantee a win, especially with a boatload of newcomers on the team but I give us at least a 75% chance of winning this game.
Quote from: bbtds on October 30, 2013, 12:30:18 PM
http://murrayledger.com/sports/murray_state/msu-tabbed-as-co-favorite/article_5b819626-3ba0-11e3-9447-0019bb2963f4.htmlQuote"Jeffery Moss and Dexter Fields are our only two returners, so it's not a surprise," Prohm said. "Our best player returning (Zay Jackson) didn't play last year, and now he's not playing again this year (out for the season with a torn ACL). We were picked first in our division (by the OVC coaches),
And even with depleted numbers entering the season (the Racers will open the year with just nine scholarship players) Prohm said the expectations in Racer Country are the same.
"Our goal never changes," he said. "You win as many conference games as you can, win your side of the league and win a double-bye in Nashville in the OVC Tournament. Once you are there, you're expected to win, and that will be what we work for everyday and push toward.
"Our goal is not going to change, because it can't change."
The Racers will open the season at Valparaiso Friday, Nov. 8 at 7:30 p.m.
Quote from: valpotx on October 30, 2013, 02:37:57 PM
We have to remember that the OVC as a conference is a decent amount worse than the HL, and especially the division Murray State is in. I believe just about everyone in their division had a 200+ RPI last year.
Edit: Confirmed - http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2013/conference/Ohio%20Valley
Quote from: wh on October 31, 2013, 04:04:56 PMWell, if we renew our series with Murray State after this year, Zay Jackson won't be in a Racer uniform:
http://ovcball.net/2013/10/zay-jackson-to-transfer/