I hope I'm not starting this thread too early.
I'm predicting a Valpo win by 5 points.
LaVonte will bounce back and Peters will score more than 10. It will be the defense against Bader and Mondy that will make the difference between the Crusaders loss at the O'rena and this game.
Let's hope Bader has cooled off since last game against CSU where he went 10-13 from 3. If we can have him 6-15 shooting for 17 point I like our chances.
I do think Alec has a big game, I thought he played really well last game and it seems his confidence is back. I also think LVD has a big game because Oakland and defense go together like oil and water.
Should be a fun high scoring affair. I see Valpo winning this one by 5-10. With us scoring somewhere between 80-90 today.
Vegas has us by 8. I can't stand losing to Oakland. We better hand it to them and keep our 2nd place finish hopes alive.
Interesting Vegas spread...I believe we were also 8 point favorites vs Detroit.
I think we were also a favorite at their place earlier in the year
Coleman is 4 for 18 over his last 5 games for 22%. Conference play is more physical and he can't handle the slightest bump without falling down. Which frustrates me to no end, BTW! I think it is time for Yeo to take his minutes. Yeo has had some nice little spurts when he has been given some playing time and we are going to need him to be ready for next year.
Also, at this point we are playing for 3rd. We are going to lose at least 1 or 2 more games, so I highly doubt GB is going to fall back to us. Cleveland State is looking real good right now and they play 4 of their last 5 at home. One of those games is against GB. My money says the conference tournament is going to be played in Cleveland. I think 6 loses is the max we can have and still get 3rd place.
So, this game is important. We need to win all of our remaining home games and steal one on the road.
I predict a huge Valpo win. Why do I predict a big win? Because I will be in the house :) . Seriously though Valpo wins like m 95% of all the games I attend.
Valpo 76
Oakland 62
Quote from: historyman on February 09, 2014, 09:53:23 AMI hope I'm not starting this thread too early.
sub-3 hours to tip? i would hope not.
i hope your predictions are as accurate as Friday's, if not more so!
Quote from: classof2014 on February 09, 2014, 10:07:44 AMIf we can have him 6-15 shooting for 17 point I like our chances.
That's assuming he would TAKE a two, let alone MAKE it ;)
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 09, 2014, 10:08:48 AMI can't stand losing to Oakland.
Any Michigan team, really. And I say that as someone born in Grosse Pointe.
Quote from: SanityLost17 on February 09, 2014, 11:42:13 AMMy money says the conference tournament is going to be played in Cleveland.
That is a gutsy prediction, but you may come out looking pretty good. Certainly better than the chances of being in Valpo a 3rd year in a row.
Quote from: gamelord on February 09, 2014, 11:55:00 AMSeriously though Valpo wins like m 95% of all the games I attend.
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I'm predicting a loss, as recently, any time I pick a win, we lose:
Oakland 72
Valpo 68
Paul Oren tweeted that Oakland's buss got stuck in snow.
Capo really struggles to guard perimeter. Having Jubril with 3 fouls in the first couple minutes is scary considering this fact.
I watch a lot of college basketball, from mid majors to high majors... I really think the horizon league is one of the worst officiated league in college basketball. Bader rolling around on the ground and they didn't call a travel? How can they miss something that simple?
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 09, 2014, 01:04:54 PMPaul Oren tweeted that Oakland's buss got stuck in snow.
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pretty much what i imagine that looks like
What's with the off ball calls on Valpo?
What's going on with Keith Carter? I thought this guy was supposed to be the second coming.
refs suck...
Clay Yeo. The end.
As Bryce is always sure to say, "Thank you, Jesus, for this win!"
Daylight come and me wanna Clay Yeo!
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Yes, it was Jubril's fault that he had 3 fouls in 2 minutes in the first half, but Bryce is just as much at fault for that aspect. You could tell that when he picked up his third foul, Bryce had no idea that Jubril was called for the one before it for his second foul. Know what is going on in the game!! Though I do have to admit that Bryce has gotten much better about managing his timeouts in the second half of the season.
Glad that we won this one, but it was ugly on both ends in regards to FT shooting and fouls. I said it during the first game, but I have no idea why anyone thinks that Petros is any good. He got some easy layups today due to us not rotating, but he is a mess with his back to the basket. That guy sucks, unless he just plays so much better against anyone that isn't Valpo. I don't care what his stats might say, if you watch the game, you say, 'that guy blows, please let him shoot.'
Pulled out a difficult win that should have been easy. Oakland is the luckiest team I've seen. How mosy of their starters played with 4 fouls for the last 5 minutes and only won picks up the 5th.
They sub less than Detroit did last year. Talk about a weak bench. Oaklands lacks depth and will be losing one of the top stealers in NCAA and the top 3pt shooter in history of ncaa. They do have a top HL freshman but other than that the future is not looking bright. We won't have a losing streak against this program for quite some time
With Yeo's play today will he start picking up regular minutes? Possibly from Coleman.....?
Clay Yeo obviously had a really big game tonight. Was all of the court and was a thorn in Bader's side all game. Bader made 2 early 3s and was shutdown basically the rest of the way until he made 2 late 3s. Then Yeo, upped him by making the winning shot, which was a 3, with 7 ticks left on the clock.
Big win, could've easily squandered this game away. I bet you Yeo will be playing more minutes than Coleman the rest of the way. Big win, nice way to grind one out. Refs stink, but what else is new. Made our FTs down the stretch which was really big.
Quote from: SanityLost17 on February 09, 2014, 11:42:13 AM
Coleman is 4 for 18 over his last 5 games for 22%. Conference play is more physical and he can't handle the slightest bump without falling down. Which frustrates me to no end, BTW! I think it is time for Yeo to take his minutes. Yeo has had some nice little spurts when he has been given some playing time and we are going to need him to be ready for next year.
As posted a couple of hours Before the game. ;)
How about Clay Yeo... Couldn't believe how wonderful he was fighting through screens. He's deceptively quick and athletic. Once he bulks up, he's going to be a hell of a player. His shot seems to be okay. I was concerned with it at the beginning of the year and didn't think he could be a contributor without a decent shot, especially for a stretch 2-3.
But his release seems to be quicker and he was handling the ball okay, so the future looks bright when he gains some muscle and can play forward at the same time as Peters.
Great game by Yeo. He's earned more of Coleman's for the next game I'd imagine.
Refs weren't very good, but both teams adjusted and played an entertaining game despite the officials. I did think it was bogus that Capo got a T for slapping the floor while Bader got nothing for cursing directly at the officials.
Quote from: HC on February 09, 2014, 04:09:43 PM
Great game by Yeo. He's earned more of Coleman's for the next game I'd imagine.
Refs weren't very good, but both teams adjusted and played an entertaining game despite the officials. I did think it was bogus that Capo got a T for slapping the floor while Bader got nothing for cursing directly at the officials.
Bader seems to have quite the ego. Falls to the ground after getting a 3 stuffed that was all ball and stared at the refs for a foul. Seems to be a bit of a whiner as well. Glad to see him have a frustrating game since he's one of my least favorite player's in the league.
Coleman seems to be having difficulty getting himself into scoring position lately. don't like that sometimes it seems like he is just keeping the court warm so that someone else can rest. He is better than that.
Yeo looked great and I would not say it was because Oakland was not expecting him. He will likely get some more minutes in up coming games.
Carter seems to be having some difficulty making the game flow. That time when Oakland pressed and he dribbled back into the corner was really strange from a point guard.
I would say I was worried when Bader hit that 3 at the end... Very cool final outcome. way to go Clay!
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Quote from: SanityLost17 on February 09, 2014, 11:42:13 AM
Coleman is 4 for 18 over his last 5 games for 22%. Conference play is more physical and he can't handle the slightest bump without falling down. Which frustrates me to no end, BTW! I think it is time for Yeo to take his minutes. Yeo has had some nice little spurts when he has been given some playing time and we are going to need him to be ready for next year.
As posted a couple of hours Before the game. ;)
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Congrats to yeo.
We have several players that step up on different occasions. It's a different freshman or it's a different big man each time. Kudos to these young athletes for not being immature and getting frustrated about playing time but rather stepping up when you have a chance. Yeo very well have gotten frustrated when other freshman starting and playing more. As a freshman that can force your confidence down.
Congrats to mossua for 7 blocks. Another guy that could have moaned and pack the bags after he lost his starting position.
Congrats to vashil hitting two free throws towards the end of the game.
Also congrats to Coppo for hitting a couple shots, free throws and snagging some rebounds. Contributed well off the bench.
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 09, 2014, 01:04:54 PMPaul Oren tweeted that Oakland's buss got stuck in snow.
So the student section should have started the cheer "Push out the buss(
sic)! Push out the buss!"
The most encouraging thing from this afternoon was seeing the team finally close out a close game. We've had quite a few losses where the team played solid but couldn't execute after the final media TO (@oakland Illinois Ohio and Detroit are the first to come to mind). Games like this are where young teams learn the kind of focus and effort it takes to win at this level.
I still would have rather not seen them cough up a double digit lead though.
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my highlight was Fernandez making both free throws near the end of the game. I was for sure he'd miss both of those. it is always fun watching Kempe's temper. I swear he is a duplicate of Bobby Knight.
On a side note, the fish messing with and eating the fake oakland assistant was some funny stuff.
where were all the students at? It's kinda sad when the band has more members then the student section.
Quote from: SanityLost17 on February 09, 2014, 11:42:13 AMI think it is time for Yeo to take his minutes.
Downright PROPHETIC! NICELY done.
Quote from: gamelord on February 09, 2014, 07:01:51 PMmy highlight was Fernandez making both free throws near the end of the game.
right? you knew we were going to win then.
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 09, 2014, 01:04:54 PMPaul Oren tweeted that Oakland's buss got stuck in snow.
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Every posting on this thread (so far) is spot-on.
Having seen Yeo play in HS, I knew he'd be special. I still think Peters will be, too. Hopefully, Alec can regain his confidence because it's patently obvious he's passing up a ton of shots that he would've taken and made this past fall. He'll have to work hard on developing more fluidity and improving his agility. He's improved incrementally the last couple of games, so that's a positive.
Quote from: atkins on February 09, 2014, 07:52:16 PM
Every posting on this thread (so far) is spot-on.
Having seen Yeo play in HS, I knew he'd be special. I still think Peters will be, too. Hopefully, Alec can regain his confidence because it's patently obvious he's passing up a ton of shots that he would've taken and made this past fall. He'll have to work hard on developing more fluidity and improving his agility. He's improved incrementally the last couple of games, so that's a positive.
Alec's 3-point shooting will come. One thing I've noticed he's been a bit more aggressive (led the team with 13 today) and is very confident. Once his 3 starts to fall, which it will, he will be back to averaging 15 to 20 a game.
It was downright awesome to see Clay have a breakout game like this. He completely shutdown one of the best 3-point shooters ever to take the court, and he's a freshman no less. Originally I thought Alec, Jubril, and Lexus would be 3 of the best players in the HL in another 2 years. After this performance I might say we will have 4 of the best in the HL.
Some teams have 1 freshman that plays ample minutes and can hold is own. We have 4, well done in recruiting this season, well done. I'm guessing Clay has worked himself for many more minutes in future games.
Quote from: classof2014 on February 09, 2014, 04:14:04 PM
Quote from: HC on February 09, 2014, 04:09:43 PM
Great game by Yeo. He's earned more of Coleman's for the next game I'd imagine.
Refs weren't very good, but both teams adjusted and played an entertaining game despite the officials. I did think it was bogus that Capo got a T for slapping the floor while Bader got nothing for cursing directly at the officials.
Bader seems to have quite the ego. Falls to the ground after getting a 3 stuffed that was all ball and stared at the refs for a foul. Seems to be a bit of a whiner as well. Glad to see him have a frustrating game since he's one of my least favorite player's in the league.
I noticed that stuff as well. I didn't know he was that type. That aside I can't think of an opposing player come into the ARC over the years that had me holding my breath more than Travis Bader whenever he touched the ball. His form and lightning quick release are things of beauty and you just never know when he might "go off."
A great game for Clay...25 minutes, 4-8 fg(all 3 pt shots), 4 rebounds(1 more than Alec), and great defensive effort on Justin Bieber look-a-like cry baby Travis. Bader was 4-13 with all but 1 shot a three-point try. It sometimes appears that boy Travis is about as immature as Justin. Is there any question that he is a one-dimensional player? First team All Conference? You have got to be kidding.
I wonder why Kampe didn't use one of his 2 timeouts there at the end. I have to believe it was because he didn't want the defense to get set up, but I don't know. It almost looked like the guy bringing the ball up thought OU wanted to call timeout then Kampe hollered at him and waved him to keep playing. Any thoughts? I was shocked that Bryce finished the game with a timeout left in his pocket too.
What is the verdict on Keith Carter? Or is the jury still out?
Paul
Quote from: 78crusader on February 09, 2014, 09:40:50 PMWhat is the verdict on Keith Carter? Or is the jury still out?
jay harris, your table is ready
The many comments already posted seem a good summary of the game. The team played a great first half then nearly lost the game in the second half. However, despite the poor second half, we witnessed another step in the maturing of this team, especially the freshman class. Peters is regaining his confidence; Adekoya contributed when in the game, though he was limited to only 8 minutes by foul trouble; Lexus did not score, but he ran the offense well for 30 minutes with only 1 turnover; and Clay Yeo finally had an opportunity to play while healthy and exhibit what he can do.
Bryce said Moussa had his best game with 7 blocks and 9 points in only 14 minutes. Bobby was the emotional leader and nearly had a double-double with 10 points and 9 rebounds. Dority didn't have his best shooting game, but the offense again flowed through him much of the time as he had 5 assists and 0 turnovers. He also displayed confidence in Clay by passing to him for that final 3-point shot. Fernandez even surpised Coach Kampe by hitting both free throws at a crucial moment in the game. Coleman and Carter now seem to be the players who need a return to confidence, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them contribute more during the upcoming games.
Almost as important as the win was avoiding a loss. After the devastating end of the Detroit game, a late loss against Oakland would have greatly damaged the team's confidence. Right now, the focus needs to be on steadily strengthening the team's confidence and performance—especially cutting turnovers (17 today) that have plagued the team all season—toward a conference tournament run.
[One negative note: shamefully low turnout in student section.]
Here are a few photos from the game (one of Clay's 3-pt. shots, one of Moussa's blocks, Alec showing confidence with a slam) and one that shows Clay enjoying his chance to speak about his contributions in the post-game press conference.
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Quote from: 78crusader on February 09, 2014, 09:40:50 PMWhat is the verdict on Keith Carter?
One of these days the real Keith Carter (not this imposter) will show up at the ARC and have you immediately wondering if there had been some kind of alien abduction. In the meantime I will continue to spend my evenings gazing off into the distant night sky.
Quote from: 78crusader on February 09, 2014, 09:40:50 PM
What is the verdict on Keith Carter? Or is the jury still out?
He definitely has a ton of potential and I think coming in mid-season after sitting out quite a long while is really disrupting his game. I'm guessing his final two seasons will be much better than this one. We saw similar with LaVonte compared to last year to this year. He's a completely different player and I would expect the same from Keith.
Like I said it's difficult for someone to come in midseason and mesh well with a group. I also thought he would've been a starter but Lexus has really taken the reigns at the point.
Quote from: classof2014 on February 10, 2014, 12:05:36 AM
Quote from: 78crusader on February 09, 2014, 09:40:50 PM
What is the verdict on Keith Carter? Or is the jury still out?
He definitely has a ton of potential and I think coming in mid-season after sitting out quite a long while is really disrupting his game. I'm guessing his final two seasons will be much better than this one. We saw similar with LaVonte compared to last year to this year. He's a completely different player and I would expect the same from Keith.
Like I said it's difficult for someone to come in midseason and mesh well with a group. I also thought he would've been a starter but Lexus has really taken the reigns at the point.
Spot on, the talent is there. I also think that Carter is playing a little out of character.
Any guy who can have one 3 rim out and the next one air-ball and then drain one over the outstretched arm of Vashiell Fernandez at crunch time during an otherwise forgettable performance has my utter respect.
I remember one time in the first half when Valpo scored a layup and Bader yelled at this teammate (Kampe yelled at him too). If what you are referring to happened in the 2nd half, then I wouldn't have seen it because I spent the 2nd half in our end zone.
Kyle Nelson (I think) tweeted that the referees had a quick whistle and long patience -- both coaches should have had a tech. Someone on press row tweeted they heard the lead official report that Bobby got T-ed up for getting in an Oakland player's face. I think he needs to reign in his passion just a smidge.
Quote from: valpopal on February 09, 2014, 10:46:31 PM[One negative note: shamefully low turnout in student section.]
I think since Friday's game against Detroit was an ESPN game and Sundays are for relaxing and sleeping the students thought they had done their duty for the weekend. I too was truly disappointed by the student section turnout because it really means most of the students come to be on TV and possibly for being acknowledged by the players when they run up into the student section.
Quote from: historyman on February 10, 2014, 01:29:59 AM
Quote from: valpopal on February 09, 2014, 10:46:31 PM[One negative note: shamefully low turnout in student section.]
I think since Friday's game against Detroit was an ESPN game and Sundays are for relaxing and sleeping the students thought they had done their duty for the weekend. I too was truly disappointed by the student section turnout because it really means most of the students come to be on TV and possibly for being acknowledged by the players when they run up into the student section.
Maybe the students think that Detroit is our rival and they could care less about Oakland.
Quote from: valpotx on February 09, 2014, 03:37:18 PMYes, it was Jubril's fault that he had 3 fouls in 2 minutes in the first half, but Bryce is just as much at fault for that aspect. You could tell that when he picked up his third foul, Bryce had no idea that Jubril was called for the one before it for his second foul. Know what is going on in the game!! Though I do have to admit that Bryce has gotten much better about managing his timeouts in the second half of the season.
Generally an assistant's job to keep track of fouls, but I am pretty sure Bryce knew the situation. Probably trying to keep the normal substitution pattern early. The odds that Jubril would get his third that quickly would normally be pretty low.
Quote from: valpopal on February 09, 2014, 10:46:31 PMRight now, the focus needs to be on steadily strengthening the team's confidence and performance—especially cutting turnovers (17 today) that have plagued the team all season—toward a conference tournament run.
Todd pointed out during the broadcast that included in the turnover stat is illegal screens which also are personal fouls. Illegal screens are a much different error then a bad pass. For whatever reason the refs don't like our technique on screens--something we need to work on, no doubt.
Someone said that loyola and Oakland have similar conf. records. I guess the point is that Oakland is not proving to be an upgrade. I would only say that I have complete faith in Kampe to make whatever adjustments are necessary to become a top tier HL team. Loyola had years of opportunity to do just that, and their record speaks for itself.
Quote from: classof2014 on February 10, 2014, 12:05:36 AMLexus has really taken the reigns at the point
Quote from: StlVUFan on February 10, 2014, 01:26:33 AMI think he needs to reign in his passion
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Quote from: valpotx on February 09, 2014, 03:37:18 PMYes, it was Jubril's fault that he had 3 fouls in 2 minutes in the first half, but Bryce is just as much at fault for that aspect. You could tell that when he picked up his third foul, Bryce had no idea that Jubril was called for the one before it for his second foul. Know what is going on in the game!! Though I do have to admit that Bryce has gotten much better about managing his timeouts in the second half of the season.
Generally an assistant's job to keep track of fouls, but I am pretty sure Bryce knew the situation. Probably trying to keep the normal substitution pattern early. The odds that Jubril would get his third that quickly would normally be pretty low.
Go back and watch the video. You can see Bryce pleading that he thought the foul before Jubril's third was on someone else.
As someone following the PxP on GameCast while out for a walk with baby and visiting mother, I thought "either one of those 2 was actually not on Jubril, or Bryce is really being brave", and was hoping the latter. Then was SHOCKED when at the 17:41 mark (or thereabouts) #3 popped up. Started thinking about whatsisface's idea about adding a 6th foul, did the math and found out that the amount of fouls per minute actually the same between NCAA and NBA, etc.
Because, let's face it, the odds of that happening are so low, and too many times you see coaches automatically sit a guy the rest of the half for no real reason other than that's how it's always done. But by doing that coaches essentially foul them out before the refs do.
I was so proud of B-Drew for being forward-thinking too :/
Did anyone have any better feeling than I for what was happening during the... second, I think... video review?
The first was looking at elbows, and was in the middle of a bunch of back and forth between Bobby and a ref, and not long before Bobby's T. So, that sort of made sense.
The other was.. evidently a review of the clock situation. But, with a significant amount of time to play (minutes... ~4 minutes? more?). And ended up adding just one second. Had the clocks somehow really obviously malfunctioned in a way that I completely missed?
It felt like a long break in play for very little reason.
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 10, 2014, 10:46:33 AMAs someone following the PxP on GameCast while out for a walk with baby and visiting mother, I thought "either one of those 2 was actually not on Jubril, or Bryce is really being brave", and was hoping the latter.
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 10, 2014, 10:46:33 AMBecause, let's face it, the odds of that happening are so low, and too many times you see coaches automatically sit a guy the rest of the half for no real reason other than that's how it's always done. But by doing that coaches essentially foul them out before the refs do.
The more man defense we play the more the fouls add up but with the deep bench I think the tradeoff is worth it. I think at least one of his fouls was on a switch to cover Bader and that wasn't an easy job for anybody. If you remember back to the game at Oakland Coleman had covered Mondy pretty well until he got his 4'th foul, then we went zone (for a while) and Mondy went nuts and seemed to score every time he touched the ball.
You need depth for a good man defense and we have no shortage of that. So UWM is a team we could beat with the zone but will that be the way that Bryce chooses to play it?
Quote from: StlVUFan on February 10, 2014, 01:26:33 AMKyle Nelson (I think) tweeted that the referees had a quick whistle and long patience -- both coaches should have had a tech. Someone on press row tweeted they heard the lead official report that Bobby got T-ed up for getting in an Oakland player's face. I think he needs to reign in his passion just a smidge.
That was me, glad at least one real person is following ;) Link (https://twitter.com/kyle321n/status/432608049518223360) "The refs have a quick whistle on offensive fouls and a long leash for the coaches. Both should have at least 1 tech "
It was really odd that they were getting Moussa and Bobby on so many offensive fouls (I'll be honest I wasn't watching them that closely on the offensive end) and yet not calling the illegal screens and pushing off Bader did EVERY time down the court. Superstar calls I guess... LaVonte does get away with more hand checking than anyone else I've seen.
Both coaches should have been T'd up after 8 minutes of game play. Hell Bryce should have gotten 2 at the TV time out. Neither got one... Really surprising... Even (https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/432599410942300162) Paul Oren agreed
Quote from: agibson on February 10, 2014, 11:30:41 AM
Did anyone have any better feeling than I for what was happening during the... second, I think... video review?
The first was looking at elbows, and was in the middle of a bunch of back and forth between Bobby and a ref, and not long before Bobby's T. So, that sort of made sense.
The other was.. evidently a review of the clock situation. But, with a significant amount of time to play (minutes... ~4 minutes? more?). And ended up adding just one second. Had the clocks somehow really obviously malfunctioned in a way that I completely missed?
It felt like a long break in play for very little reason.
The shot clock didn't start and even tho it appeared they only added a second to the game clock and took 1 off the shot clock it was a bigger error than that. The shot clock didn't start until they blew the whistle and then they ran the shot clock for 5 seconds after the game clock ran. Kampe didn't seem to want the break to occur and told the refs "Set the clock to 25 seconds, I don't care." I thought that was quite humorous.
I have posted a photo gallery from the game with more than 40 pictures for all to check out, including the ones below. The complete set of photographs can be found at the following: http://www.flickr.com/photos/96208998@N05/sets/72157640804518825/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/96208998@N05/sets/72157640804518825/)
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