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Title: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on April 07, 2017, 10:03:38 AM
Thought it may be time to start this thread Topic.

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on April 07, 2017, 10:05:44 AM
A rumor that Coach Jackie Manuel may be joining the UNCW staff. We just lost Coach Warner. I get the UNC connection but it would be a step down in my opinion. But maybe he wants go closer to home. Something to keep an eye on.

https://twitter.com/BGMull/status/850346423061291010
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpotx on April 07, 2017, 01:35:47 PM
They made the tournament, and we didn't...
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bigmosmithfan1 on April 07, 2017, 01:38:31 PM
Also could be a more senior assistant position, i.e., a move up responsibility-wise.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on April 07, 2017, 06:26:46 PM
TAYLOR Bruninga on an official visit at UNI this weekend.  Whatever happened with our interest in him?

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on April 07, 2017, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on April 07, 2017, 06:26:46 PM
TAYLOR Bruninga on an official visit at UNI this weekend.  Whatever happened with our interest in him?



I really wanted us to offer him. He sounds like a really good player and could probably get really early playing time. I think what happened is just a log jam at that position. 3 Freshman PFs would be a lot and it probably wouldn't make Mileek or Parker happy to see another recruit coming in. I wish we could red shirt him his Freshman year (I believe there is some loop hole that allows that. Someone mentioned it before). He'd be a great fit on our team.

Quote from: valpotx on April 07, 2017, 01:35:47 PM
They made the tournament, and we didn't...

Look at UNCW's previous records beyond the last 2 yrs. Not pretty at all. They just lost their coach too.

In terms of program pedigree/history: Valpo >>>> WNCW (not even close)
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: justducky on April 07, 2017, 07:42:53 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on April 07, 2017, 06:26:46 PM
TAYLOR Bruninga on an official visit at UNI this weekend.  Whatever happened with our interest in him?


I think somebody suddenly realized that there is a limit to the number of projects you can advance at once.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: SanityLost17 on April 08, 2017, 10:34:17 AM
Quote from: justducky on April 07, 2017, 07:42:53 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on April 07, 2017, 06:26:46 PM
TAYLOR Bruninga on an official visit at UNI this weekend.  Whatever happened with our interest in him?


I think somebody suddenly realized that there is a limit to the number of projects you can advance at once.

I am still a little worried about next years recruits and think maybe this guy would have been a better option than the Merrillville kid.  After a horrendous end to this season, there is going to be a lot of pressure on these guys to step up and make us competitive.  I really hope they are ready and capable.  All have some positives, but all have some major flaws in their game also.   

I am not worried about Tevonn.  I think he will be ready to shine and really carry this team at times.  I am also confident that one of the two big men will have a great season.  Not sure which one yet, but one of them will step up.   

Next year is big.  Lottich's 1st recruiting class.   Do we carry our momentum forward?  Do we lose it for a year and then get it back?  Or are these recruits ready to keep moving us forward.   

Going to be a fun/anxiety filled next couple of years as we see how all of this unfolds. 
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpo64 on April 08, 2017, 01:30:30 PM
If we would go to the MVC it is imperative that we do it as soon as possible, or at least announce our intentions a.s.a.p. because it could have a big effect on our recruiting.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on April 08, 2017, 04:26:40 PM
Quote from: valpo64 on April 08, 2017, 01:30:30 PM
If we would go to the MVC it is imperative that we do it as soon as possible, or at least announce our intentions a.s.a.p. because it could have a big effect on our recruiting.

I don't think MVC would have a "massive" impact on recruiting but I do think it could give a small boost. More brand recognition the Horizon League. I think it will be a small psychological selling point to the parents of the kids who probably remember the glory days of the MVC. Might help a bit.

Maybe it will have a bigger impact then I'm giving it credit for. There is absolutely no doubt that being in the MVC helped attract better recruits for Loyola. Loyola has been quite pedestrian in their 4 yrs in the MVC so far but if you look at the roster they project to be better the next few years and maybe tick up in competitiveness.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on April 08, 2017, 07:44:11 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 08, 2017, 04:26:40 PMI don't think MVC would have a "massive" impact on recruiting but I do think it could give a small boost. More brand recognition the Horizon League. I think it will be a small psychological selling point to the parents of the kids who probably remember the glory days of the MVC. Might help a bit.

For Taylor Bruninga it would be huge. With Bradley being 12 miles away and Illinois State within 60 miles of Mapleton his parents would have two easy trips and Indiana State (3 hours), Northern Iowa (4 hours) and Southern Illinois (4 hours) aren't too bad either. 
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on April 08, 2017, 08:13:45 PM
Quote from: bbtds on April 08, 2017, 07:44:11 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 08, 2017, 04:26:40 PMI don't think MVC would have a "massive" impact on recruiting but I do think it could give a small boost. More brand recognition the Horizon League. I think it will be a small psychological selling point to the parents of the kids who probably remember the glory days of the MVC. Might help a bit.

For Taylor Bruninga it would be huge. With Bradley being 12 miles away and Illinois State within 60 miles of Mapleton his parents would have two easy trips and Indiana State (3 hours), Northern Iowa (4 hours) and Southern Illinois (4 hours) aren't too bad either. 

Good point bbtds. Seems like he'd be a great fit, but they are worried about too many Freshman at the same position. Bruninga sounds like he'd be more of a polish product and be able to be "relied" upon more as a freshman. Also sounded like he wanted an offer. Hope it doesn't haunt us if we move to MVC and he lands at one of UNI or ISU.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpo64 on April 08, 2017, 09:38:12 PM
We should go after him if he has any interest at all  I still like the "thumbs up" from the Peters family when Jeff P says the kid  is just like Alex was in his senior year...same type of player. I'd be happy with a guy like that even if we had a couple of other big men.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: justducky on April 08, 2017, 11:20:38 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 08, 2017, 08:13:45 PMSeems like he'd be a great fit, but they are worried about too many Freshman at the same position. Bruninga sounds like he'd be more of a polish product and be able to be "relied" upon more as a freshman. Also sounded like he wanted an offer. Hope it doesn't haunt us if we move to MVC and he lands at one of UNI or ISU.
I would love to have him but with 11 scholarships now taken it has come down to numbers and immediate impact. Golder and Calhoun (if he accepts our 12'th scholarship) should be able to provide modest help right away. We need that depth of versatile experience and that is why they were targeted. That leaves us one more opening for a major level player transfer. As long as we are hot on the heals of one I wouldn't worry about what might have been. Today not offering makes sense. If he kills us sometime in the future then we can stand in a circle and curse our stupidity.  >:(
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpopal on April 09, 2017, 12:19:58 AM
Quote from: justducky on April 08, 2017, 11:20:38 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 08, 2017, 08:13:45 PMSeems like he'd be a great fit, but they are worried about too many Freshman at the same position. Bruninga sounds like he'd be more of a polish product and be able to be "relied" upon more as a freshman. Also sounded like he wanted an offer. Hope it doesn't haunt us if we move to MVC and he lands at one of UNI or ISU.
I would love to have him but with 11 scholarships now taken it has come down to numbers and immediate impact. Golder and Calhoun (if he accepts our 12'th scholarship) should be able to provide modest help right away. We need that depth of versatile experience and that is why they were targeted. That leaves us one more opening for a major level player transfer. As long as we are hot on the heals of one I wouldn't worry about what might have been. Today not offering makes sense. If he kills us sometime in the future then we can stand in a circle and curse our stupidity.  >:(


I wonder if we are holding the last scholarship for the possibility of Fazekas?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: swiftmutiny on April 09, 2017, 07:57:43 AM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/851027913705103360

Should be a fun game.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on April 09, 2017, 09:02:04 AM
Quote from: swiftmutiny on April 09, 2017, 07:57:43 AM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/851027913705103360

Should be a fun game.

Great alumni pull for VU.  Though I hope it's not a Wednesday night or some junk like that.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FWalum on April 09, 2017, 09:12:11 AM
 I wonder if this is because they finally feel good enough not to be threatened by a mid major?  Plus perhaps the fact that they feel we would potentially be down this year?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: SanityLost17 on April 09, 2017, 09:37:19 AM
Quote from: FWalum on April 09, 2017, 09:12:11 AM
I wonder if this is because they finally feel good enough not to be threatened by a mid major?  Plus perhaps the fact that they feel we would potentially be down this year?

They know we are going to be in rebuilding mode early in the season.  Makes sense to schedule us this year.  We will start the season ugly and get better every game and still finish in the top 200RPI.  Gives them a semi-decent win and they get to play us when we are still figuring out roles.  Plus, we will travel well to NW so they make a lil extra money.  Also, now is the time to assert their superiority over us for future recruits.  Very smart all the way around on their part.     
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on April 09, 2017, 12:00:29 PM
Quote from: swiftmutiny on April 09, 2017, 07:57:43 AM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/851027913705103360

Should be a fun game.

I believe Valpo played Northwestern this preseason in an unofficial exhibition game behind closed doors.

Anyone remember what the score or results were? 

Also good on the Coaches for creating that connection last summer. Should be a really fun game. I'm definitely going to be there for that game. Northwestern is going to have a new arena next season.

Correction: The exhibition was last season not this past season.
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/646718561055059968
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on April 09, 2017, 02:30:25 PM
If it's next season (17-18) Northwestern is playing their home games at the Rosemont All State Arena. They are remodeling Welsh Ryan Arena and the Wildcats won't get it back till fall of 2018.

DePaul is moving into their new arena at McCormick Place for 2017-18.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on April 12, 2017, 02:19:31 PM
https://twitter.com/Catch_N_Shoot/status/852232910996254720
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on April 18, 2017, 06:49:19 PM
Would be nice if Valpo's ARC staff and Athletic Department would take notice to this tweet...

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/854461048220528640
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on April 18, 2017, 07:42:53 PM
(note: I have not been to an ARC BB game in quite some time due to distance constraints) I appreciate the music they play over the PA system during football games (assuming that is what is played over the ARC sound system) - to an extent. I also appreciate that our kids have a different "musical" tastes than previous generations. However, it is like many weddings I have been to in the last 20 years. 60-75% of the invited guests are a generation (or more) older. They would love to dance - and occasionally they would like to do a slow dance. But the kids just want their music and as a result the majority of invited guests sit around for a while and then just leave. However, most rock from the last 50 years is universal. At all Valpo athletic events I would like to hear is a mix of music that responds to both the athletes and students and also the fans who are $$$$$$$upporting these programs. This is especially true when the student section is practical empty for ____ fill in the excuse ___ .

Oh, and then you have the aenemic pep band that plays many songs that have no pep ( again, it is not the fault of those dedicated kids)    ....      It is my understanding that at one point the athletic department funded the pep band but in a coup the music department took over the band (and the athletic paid-for instruments).  What is left is what we've got (without support of the music department).  To put this into perspective Valpo used to have a pretty good (and big) marching band.  Oh, and from what I have read, we don't even have a good sound system.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on April 18, 2017, 09:56:32 PM
I'm totally cool with have the classics played but I think there is a lot of room to add younger generations music. Just need to find a better blend and mix of new and old schools music. I think the older crowd would be fine with some newer music as long as it was tasteful and upbeat (which is definitely doable).

The real thing I would like the ARC staff/Athletic Department to address is the Family Express commercials. There has to be a way not to make people go deaf during those commercials/ads blasting over the speakers. Completely kills the vibe and takes away from the Pep Band (which has had its own issues the last year or 2.)

Quote from: VULB#62 on April 18, 2017, 07:42:53 PM
Oh, and then you have the aenemic pep band that plays many songs that have no pep ( again, it is not the fault of those dedicated kids)    ....      It is my understanding that at one point the athletic department funded the pep band but in a coup the music department took over the band (and the athletic paid-for instruments).  What is left is what we've got (without support of the music department).  To put this into perspective Valpo used to have a pretty good (and big) marching band.  Oh, and from what I have read, we don't even have a good sound system.

I believe someone mentioned before that they were a Music Student when they were on campus and they mentioned that the Music Students looked down on the Pep Band or thought they were above the Pep Band. Some what understandable I guess since those students really take their craft seriously and have high standards.

One "solution" could be that Music students are required to take a "1-credit" course (maybe instead of PE (which is a required course for freshman)) to play in the Pep Band for all home games. That would REALLY give a boost to the pep bands talent level. I'm sure many students would rather take the 1-credit of Pep Band then have to do a PE course (which was utterly ridiculous back when I did it).

Also just for a frame of reference for this the song Paul was referring to in the tweet if you want to give it a listen:
-Not exactly my go to music but has a good beat and is clean. Pretty much what expect to be played at Basketball game during time outs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYh-n7EOtMA

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on April 18, 2017, 10:10:48 PM
14, you state exactly what I was trying to communicate --- a blend of really great and motivational songs from the 80s, 90s (And even the 70s if it works) with music of the 2000s. But , man, does it have be 100% hip hop?

And my comment about the pep band refers to the opportunity to upgrade and expand the band to be an even more attractive aspect of the home game experience. It would be great to have a polished 25 piece band led by a music department conductor.

I was at both the away UWM and the UWGB games and those bands were bigger, louder and led by professionals. Their songs were better and they really added to the experience even for a Valpo fan.

Quote from: VU2014 on April 18, 2017, 09:56:32 PM
I'm totally cool with have the classics played but I think there is a lot of room to add younger generations music. Just need to find a better blend and mix of new and old schools music. I think the older crowd would be fine with some newer music as long as it was tasteful and upbeat (which is definitely doable).

The real thing I would like the ARC staff/Athletic Department to address is the Family Express commercials. There has to be a way not make people go deaf during those commercials/ads over the speakers. Completely kills the vibe and takes away from the Pep Band (which has had its own issues the last year or 2.)

Quote from: VULB#62 on April 18, 2017, 07:42:53 PM
Oh, and then you have the aenemic pep band that plays many songs that have no pep ( again, it is not the fault of those dedicated kids)    ....      It is my understanding that at one point the athletic department funded the pep band but in a coup the music department took over the band (and the athletic paid-for instruments).  What is left is what we've got (without support of the music department).  To put this into perspective Valpo used to have a pretty good (and big) marching band.  Oh, and from what I have read, we don't even have a good sound system.

I believe someone mentioned before that they were a Music Student when they were on campus and they mentioned that the Music Students looked down on the Pep Band or thought they were above the Pep Band. Some what understandable I guess since those students really take their craft seriously and have high standards.

One "solution" could be that Music students are required to take a "1-credit" course (maybe instead of PE (which is a required course for freshman)) to play in the Pep Band for all home games. That would REALLY give a boost to the pep bands talent level. I'm sure many students would rather take the 1-credit of Pep Band then have to do a PE course (which was utterly ridiculous back when I did it).

Also just for a frame of reference for this the song Paul was referring to in the tweet if you want to give it a listen:
-Not exactly my go to music but has a good beat and is clean. Pretty much what expect to be played at Basketball game during time outs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYh-n7EOtMA
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on April 18, 2017, 10:23:37 PM
Forget the dj altogether and gimme more pep band and new songs from them!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: a3uge on April 18, 2017, 10:29:52 PM
UWM pays their members - something which Valpo should do. Even at $10-20 a game, it wouldn't be too insane to budget for 50 or so members.

But it should be only under the stipulation that the pep band burns the sheet music to Time Warp.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on April 18, 2017, 10:52:50 PM
Quote from: a3uge on April 18, 2017, 10:29:52 PM
UWM pays their members - something which Valpo should do. Even at $10-20 a game, it wouldn't be too insane to budget for 50 or so members.

But it should be only under the stipulation that the pep band burns the sheet music to Time Warp.

That
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on April 18, 2017, 10:56:48 PM
Quote from: a3uge on April 18, 2017, 10:29:52 PM
UWM pays their members - something which Valpo should do. Even at $10-20 a game, it wouldn't be too insane to budget for 50 or so members.

But it should be only under the stipulation that the pep band burns the sheet music to Time Warp.

Not a bad idea but may be too "Pricy" for Valpo. Knowing how the University and the Athletics Department operate (or thinks) they would be greatly opposed to paying $9,000-$18,000 a season for 18 home games a year (roughly 50 member band). Just not in the University's nature.

Personally I think the "1-credit" idea for Pep Band would work like a charm. Or even allow it as an elective class. I believe then the talent level would be boosted and some student would even continue wanting to be in the Pep Band because its more of a fun activity going to basketball games and performing. Would also be the most cost effective way of fixing the Pep Band.

Not sure how much of a priority fixing the Pep Band is for the Athletics Department right now. Probably definitely not on the mind of ML/AL.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on April 18, 2017, 11:53:24 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on April 18, 2017, 07:42:53 PM
Oh, and then you have the aenemic pep band that plays many songs that have no pep ( again, it is not the fault of those dedicated kids)    ....      It is my understanding that at one point the athletic department funded the pep band but in a coup the music department took over the band (and the athletic paid-for instruments).  What is left is what we've got (without support of the music department).  To put this into perspective Valpo used to have a pretty good (and big) marching band.  Oh, and from what I have read, we don't even have a good sound system.

Just curious when did the March Band disband at Valpo?

There was no Marching Band when I went to school. I feel like a Marching Band would be great for Football games and could be apart of the Pep Band in the football offseason. I know many large state schools offer scholarships for Marching Band these days. Probably unlikely to happen at a smaller school like Valpo. Would be great if we could somehow get the Marching Band back together without necessarily having offer scholarships. Could be a recruiting tool for the University to offer the Marching Band as a club or extracurricular activity to High School Students who want to participate in the Marching Band in College.

QuoteIt is my understanding that at one point the athletic department funded the pep band but in a coup the music department took over the band (and the athletic paid-for instruments).  What is left is what we've got (without support of the music department).

How did the Music Faculty manage that coup? Its pretty disappointing with the lack of support/guidance the Music Faculty gives to the Pep Band. I don't believe they were involved with the band at all.

I know the Faculty is pretty involved with the Jazz Band at school which is pretty darn good. I had a few friends who played in the jazz band. It was a mix of volunteers (non-music students) and Music Students. They were a pretty dedicated group that practiced pretty often and had a faculty member conducting them. Would be cool to see them play at half-time or something sometime. They use to play at Duffy's for free food all the time.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: talksalot on April 19, 2017, 06:47:39 AM
Need more cowbell.      Sorry, just couldn't resist
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpo95 on April 19, 2017, 08:46:22 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on April 18, 2017, 07:42:53 PM

Oh, and then you have the aenemic pep band that plays many songs that have no pep ( again, it is not the fault of those dedicated kids)    ....      It is my understanding that at one point the athletic department funded the pep band but in a coup the music department took over the band (and the athletic paid-for instruments).  What is left is what we've got (without support of the music department).  To put this into perspective Valpo used to have a pretty good (and big) marching band.  Oh, and from what I have read, we don't even have a good sound system.


Quote from: valpo95 on January 28, 2013, 08:42:27 PM
I think I was in the band the last time they had a paid director (not a student), and we had both regular rehearsal times and a budget for both new music and equipment.  That budget for equipment came from the Athletic department.  Unfortunately, the music department tried their best to kill the band entirely, doing things like scheduling rehearsals of major ensembles on top of the times alloted to Crusader Band.   Further, once it became student-led, the music department swooped in and took some of the equipment, including the drum set, cymbals, keyboard and one of the amps.  Granted, the drum set available to the jazz band wasn't as good as the one paid for by the athletic department, but that didn't give a certain director rights to do with it as he saw fit.  It was easy when there was no one to say No.

The last time there was a University-sanctioned Crusader Marching Band was the Fall of 1990, and I was a freshman in the band then. The same director who had the marching band in the fall also was the director of Crusader Band in the spring. The director was Luther Estridge (sp?) - I think he was a HS band director or instructor from the area was listed as an adjunct instructor at VU. Both Marching Band and Crusader band were officially 0.5 credit courses where you had to get approval from the Music Department to register, though that was cut in the spring of 1991. Crusader Band has had student directors since then.



Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on April 19, 2017, 09:33:23 AM
Quote from: valpo95 on April 19, 2017, 08:46:22 AM
Quote from: valpo95 on January 28, 2013, 08:42:27 PM
I think I was in the band the last time they had a paid director (not a student), and we had both regular rehearsal times and a budget for both new music and equipment.  That budget for equipment came from the Athletic department.  Unfortunately, the music department tried their best to kill the band entirely, doing things like scheduling rehearsals of major ensembles on top of the times alloted to Crusader Band.   Further, once it became student-led, the music department swooped in and took some of the equipment, including the drum set, cymbals, keyboard and one of the amps.  Granted, the drum set available to the jazz band wasn't as good as the one paid for by the athletic department, but that didn't give a certain director rights to do with it as he saw fit.  It was easy when there was no one to say No.

The last time there was a University-sanctioned Crusader Marching Band was the Fall of 1990, and I was a freshman in the band then. The same director who had the marching band in the fall also was the director of Crusader Band in the spring. The director was Luther Estridge (sp?) - I think he was a HS band director or instructor from the area was listed as an adjunct instructor at VU. Both Marching Band and Crusader band were officially 0.5 credit courses where you had to get approval from the Music Department to register, though that was cut in the spring of 1991. Crusader Band has had student directors since then.

Thank you for sharing Valpo95.

Wow some in the Music Department seem like A-holes for stealing equipment from the Crusader Band.

Still why would some in the Music Department try and kill the Crusader Band like that? They thought it was below those students to be participating or spending time in the Pep Band or something? Makes no sense why they'd want to do that (At least from an outsiders point of view). Why would they do something like that?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: a3uge on April 19, 2017, 12:34:35 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 18, 2017, 11:53:24 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on April 18, 2017, 07:42:53 PM
Oh, and then you have the aenemic pep band that plays many songs that have no pep ( again, it is not the fault of those dedicated kids)    ....      It is my understanding that at one point the athletic department funded the pep band but in a coup the music department took over the band (and the athletic paid-for instruments).  What is left is what we've got (without support of the music department).  To put this into perspective Valpo used to have a pretty good (and big) marching band.  Oh, and from what I have read, we don't even have a good sound system.

Just curious when did the March Band disband at Valpo?

There was no Marching Band when I went to school. I feel like a Marching Band would be great for Football games and could be apart of the Pep Band in the football offseason. I know many large state schools offer scholarships for Marching Band these days. Probably unlikely to happen at a smaller school like Valpo. Would be great if we could somehow get the Marching Band back together without necessarily having offer scholarships. Could be a recruiting tool for the University to offer the Marching Band as a club or extracurricular activity to High School Students who want to participate in the Marching Band in College.

QuoteIt is my understanding that at one point the athletic department funded the pep band but in a coup the music department took over the band (and the athletic paid-for instruments).  What is left is what we've got (without support of the music department).

How did the Music Faculty manage that coup? Its pretty disappointing with the lack of support/guidance the Music Faculty gives to the Pep Band. I don't believe they were involved with the band at all.

I know the Faculty is pretty involved with the Jazz Band at school which is pretty darn good. I had a few friends who played in the jazz band. It was a mix of volunteers (non-music students) and Music Students. They were a pretty dedicated group that practiced pretty often and had a faculty member conducting them. Would be cool to see them play at half-time or something sometime. They use to play at Duffy's for free food all the time.

Jazz Band is an actual class - it offers a credit and is run through the music department. It meets on a schedule - twice a week for an hour and a half each practice. I was in Jazz Band for 3 years. I was not a music Major, but would not consider myself a volunteer - we all did it for fun. Only a few students were music majors. We did play Duffy's once a month - yes, with free food. There were a few other gigs each semester as well.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on April 19, 2017, 12:48:39 PM
Sorry Volunteer was poor word choice. I was always a huge fan of the Jazz Band. I had a class with Professor Brown who faculty member in charge.

Really think offering a Pep Band for a credit or 0.5 credit would fix the Pep Band. Would receive professional instruction again and probably would have access to better equipment.

Not sure the AD or anyone really cares enough to make an effort to fix or help out the Pep Band.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on April 19, 2017, 12:57:23 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 19, 2017, 12:48:39 PMNot sure the AD or anyone really cares enough to make an effort to fix or help out the Pep Band.

Yes, I think piped in music is the way many see in the future of music at college sporting events. It's much less cost in the end.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on April 19, 2017, 03:23:08 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 19, 2017, 12:48:39 PM
Sorry Volunteer was poor word choice. I was always a huge fan of the Jazz Band. I had a class with Professor Brown who faculty member in charge.

Really think offering a Pep Band for a credit or 0.5 credit would fix the Pep Band. Would receive professional instruction again and probably would have access to better equipment.

Not sure the AD or anyone really cares enough to make an effort to fix or help out the Pep Band.

Why so stingy?  Why not 1 credit hour/semester. Add some contingencies like 1 instructor-run practice session/week and a minimum attendance threshold to determine pass/fail.  I can picture a bigger, highly polished band playing a much larger variety of songs as a result.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valporun on April 19, 2017, 04:30:55 PM
They could make it a full year, with football, volleyball, and men's/women's basketball, throw in some baseball/softball weekends in the spring. The struggle would be finding a full-time professor that would be dedicated to the time involved, especially if he/she is a local high school band director, or an adjunct professor that only gives lessons at VU during the week. Also, tough if the person is younger with young kids involved in music or sports as well. I know VU had someone who used to work as a band director at a couple of Porter County Conference schools, before he left for Las Vegas. He enjoyed it, but it took time away from his family, with kind of schedule, so it went back to being student-led, and I'm not sure the students leading are doing enough to present pep band as something fun to do outside of class time.

Yes, it is due time for an upgrade in the music options, but that would also require more rehearsal time, which is hard to come by with no dedicated practice space for the pep band to meet for a couple of hours a week to rehearse, when the volleyball schedule takes some weeknights out, and getting enough people to volunteer to be the audition judges for the right sounds for the band. Just don't see athletics or music departments taking charge to set this up, when it's run as a student-led organization for too long.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on April 24, 2017, 08:44:19 AM
It was asked in the MVC thread who might start next year.  This seems like a better place for that conversation then over there.  Here are my guesses, although I'm a big believer in asking who finishes games. 

Starters
PG - Bakari Evelyn
SG - Tevonn Walker
SF - Joe Burton
PF - Parker Hazen/Mileek McMillian
C - Jaume Sorolla

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: Pgmado on April 24, 2017, 08:47:58 AM
I think Golder has a better chance of starting than McMillian.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on April 24, 2017, 09:17:41 AM
Agreed...I forgot about Golder.  :o
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on April 24, 2017, 09:23:42 AM
Quote from: M on April 24, 2017, 08:44:19 AM
It was asked in the MVC thread who might start next year.  This seems like a better place for that conversation then over there.  Here are my guesses, although I'm a big believer in asking who finishes games. 

Starters
PG - Bakari Evelyn
SG - Tevonn Walker
SF - Joe Burton
PF - Parker Hazen/Mileek McMillian
C - Jaume Sorolla


I agree with Paul, Markus is going to get some big minutes. I think we will be playing a little more small ball this year.

Starters:

PG - Bakari Evelyn (we are expecting big things from Bakari)

SG - Tevonn Walker

SF - Joe Burton (just like Bakari we are expecting big things from Joe)

SF/PF - Hazen/McMillan or maybe Kiser against certain lineups ((may start Hazen/McMillan but be quick to pull them depending on if they are holding their own) (doesn't mean he's the best player but he can act as a "PF" against smaller lineups because our PFs are very young. Kiser plays solid D and has shown he can do the dirty work. Someone is going to crush me for suggesting putting Kiser in the Starting Lineup but just because he's a "starter" doesn't mean he's a going to average 20 minutes.)

C - Jaume Sorolla

McMillan from what I've heard is a little bit more of a project (high ceiling and could be a versatile player (can hit 3s)). It will be interesting to see the lineup combinations Coach Lottich will be able to play with.
We'll probably have more depth then last years team at the end of the season (we better and should). Just because someone cracks the starting lineup doesn't mean they'll get the most minutes. Ex: Smits started a lot of games at Center but Jay ended up grabbing more minutes (maybe because of foul trouble/defense by Smits).


Bench Mob Squad:
(a potential pretty Athletic squad)

PG - Micah Bradford/Max Joseph (We're hoping Micah can take that next step but Max is an option at PG if Micah is having a rough night & Bakari needs rest)

SG - ?* / Tevonn Walker (Tevonn will be a starter but I'd like to put him with this group to help guide the offense but if he isn't playing then slide Markus to the 2 and play Parker or Kiser at the 3 and have Mileek play the 4)

SF - Markus Golder (He's going to get big minutes I'm guessing)

PF - Parker Hazen/Mileek McMillan (Who ever can defend and hold their own will get the most minutes among the Freshman PF)

C - Derrik Smits (its going to be a big offseason for Derrik to work on his defense/rebounding and develop some strength in the weight room)

*I think the coaching staff may bring in a grad transfer SG that can be solid depth who can defend and be relied upon as depth on the bench

**If the Coaches can't find the right fit for a grad transfer or a stud RS Transfer then hold onto the scholarship and wait for the best Mid-season Transfer (ex: Tom Wilson last year. Went to Boise St because they had a scholarship to offer him and we didn't) or just role the scholarship into next year and make sure you go after a high ceiling player. I don't think the coaches want to use that scholarship on anyone who has more then year of eligibility left. Specifically they likely won't tied to someone who plays the 2 for more then 2 years of eligibility because the coaching staff is recruiting (SG) Deavion Washington (Class of 2018/Terre Haute, IN) and (SG) Walter Ellis (Class of 2018/South Bend, IN). Those guys are priorities and want playing available for them and not have that hurt them in his recruitment.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on April 24, 2017, 10:47:43 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 24, 2017, 09:23:42 AM
Quote from: M on April 24, 2017, 08:44:19 AM
It was asked in the MVC thread who might start next year.  This seems like a better place for that conversation then over there.  Here are my guesses, although I'm a big believer in asking who finishes games. 

Starters
PG - Bakari Evelyn
SG - Tevonn Walker
SF - Joe Burton
PF - Parker Hazen/Mileek McMillian
C - Jaume Sorolla


I agree with Paul, Markus is going to get some big minutes. I think we will be playing a little more small ball this year.

Starters:

PG - Bakari Evelyn (we are expecting big things from Bakari)

SG - Tevonn Walker

SF - Joe Burton (just like Bakari we are expecting big things from Joe)

SF/PF - Hazen/McMillan or maybe Kiser against certain lineups ((may start Hazen/McMillan but be quick to pull them depending on if they are holding their own) (doesn't mean he's the best player but he can act as a "PF" against smaller lineups because our PFs are very young. Kiser plays solid D and has shown he can do the dirty work. Someone is going to crush me for suggesting putting Kiser in the Starting Lineup but just because he's a "starter" doesn't mean he's a going to average 20 minutes.)

C - Jaume Sorolla

McMillan from what I've heard is a little bit more of a project (high ceiling and could be a versatile player (can hit 3s)). It will be interesting to see the lineup combinations Coach Lottich will be able to play with.
We'll probably have more depth then last years team at the end of the season (we better and should). Just because someone cracks the starting lineup doesn't mean they'll get the most minutes. Ex: Smits started a lot of games at Center but Jay ended up grabbing more minutes (maybe because of foul trouble/defense by Smits).


Bench Mob Squad:
(a potential pretty Athletic squad)

PG - Micah Bradford/Max Joseph (We're hoping Micah can take that next step but Max is an option at PG if Micah is having a rough night & Bakari needs rest)

SG - ?* / Tevonn Walker (Tevonn will be a starter but I'd like to put him with this group to help guide the offense but if he isn't playing then slide Markus to the 2 and play Parker or Kiser at the 3 and have Mileek play the 4)

SF - Markus Golder (He's going to get big minutes I'm guessing)

PF - Parker Hazen/Mileek McMillan (Who ever can defend and hold their own will get the most minutes among the Freshman PF)

C - Derrik Smits (its going to be a big offseason for Derrik to work on his defense/rebounding and develop some strength in the weight room)

*I think the coaching staff may bring in a grad transfer SG that can be solid depth who can defend and be relied upon as depth on the bench

**If the Coaches can't find the right fit for a grad transfer or a stud RS Transfer then hold onto the scholarship and wait for the best Mid-season Transfer (ex: Tom Wilson last year. Went to Boise St because they had a scholarship to offer him and we didn't) or just role the scholarship into next year and make sure you go after a high ceiling player. I don't think the coaches want to use that scholarship on anyone who has more then year of eligibility left. Specifically they likely won't tied to someone who plays the 2 for more then 2 years of eligibility because the coaching staff is recruiting (SG) Deavion Washington (Class of 2018/Terre Haute, IN) and (SG) Walter Ellis (Class of 2018/South Bend, IN). Those guys are priorities and want playing available for them and not have that hurt them in his recruitment.

Grad transfer decide to leave for playing time, next to no chance we get a SG grad transfer ok with bench play....right?  I'd think JUCO or traditional freshmen for immediate playing time.

Don't think we need too much at SG since Max, Bakari, Tevonn, Golder and even Burton have the speed and skill sets to log minutes there.

But I could be wrong since Coach went after Shaq as a grad transfer.

I think we are weakest at the PF position for depth.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on April 24, 2017, 11:07:11 AM
I would only be ok with someone who will only have 1 year eligibility left.

It's way too late in the recruiting process to land a high level freshman, unless by some miracle a kid like Sasha Stefanovic gets pushed out of Purdue because they don't have enough scholarships (highly unlikely) and he lands at Valpo. It's extremely unlikely we will be signing anymore Freshman in this class.

I wouldn't want a JUCO kid that doesn't have more then one year of eligibility unless they are the perfect fit and an impact guy. You don't want to get tied down to low ceiling kid with more then a year of eligibility left.

Shaq Calhoun was attractive to Valpo because he looked like a reliable/solid (SG) who would only have one year eligibility left.

Agreed we are weakest at PF next season based on the youth and inexperience of freshman. I wouldn't mind a PF grad transfer.

A few possible PF Grad Transfers:

-Jeremy Combs (North Texas) http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3132447/jeremy-combs

-Mark Donnal (Michigan) - We've talked about him. Bryce is recruiting him to Vandy.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3132447/jeremy-combs

-Ahmed Hamdy-Mohamed (VCU) He just took a visit toe San Diego State
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66115/ahmed-hamdy-mohamed
https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/852547315160285184
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: crusader05 on April 24, 2017, 11:57:02 AM
I'm hoping that if we get a one and done player we get someone who can score, maybe a 3 point threat.

If it's not one or done then I would still like to see a shooter and maybe some size.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: justducky on April 24, 2017, 11:01:29 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 24, 2017, 11:07:11 AMA few possible PF Grad Transfers:

-Jeremy Combs (North Texas) http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3132447/jeremy-combs

-Mark Donnal (Michigan) - We've talked about him. Bryce is recruiting him to Vandy.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3132447/jeremy-combs

-Ahmed Hamdy-Mohamed (VCU) He just took a visit toe San Diego State
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66115/ahmed-hamdy-mohamed
I don't see Donnal wanting to move to an at-large long shot and thats what we are (best case) in 17-18. The other two could improve the team but neither has any 3 point shot. As my focus is now on an 18-19 at-large contender (hopefully) maybe we should be thinking about a Ritchie Edwards type player with 3 point skills and 1 year of eligibility. Maybe we just scrap the power forward idea entirely and go with a small ball deadeye 4.

I don't know. We could still develop into a very solid and dangerous team by March but our one remaining scholarship choice is not going to turn us into a 17-18 world beater. Too many known and unknown holes to fill.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on April 25, 2017, 08:33:34 AM
Quote from: justducky on April 24, 2017, 11:01:29 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 24, 2017, 11:07:11 AMA few possible PF Grad Transfers:

-Jeremy Combs (North Texas) http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3132447/jeremy-combs

-Mark Donnal (Michigan) - We've talked about him. Bryce is recruiting him to Vandy.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3132447/jeremy-combs

-Ahmed Hamdy-Mohamed (VCU) He just took a visit toe San Diego State
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66115/ahmed-hamdy-mohamed
I don't see Donnal wanting to move to an at-large long shot and thats what we are (best case) in 17-18. The other two could improve the team but neither has any 3 point shot. As my focus is now on an 18-19 at-large contender (hopefully) maybe we should be thinking about a Ritchie Edwards type player with 3 point skills and 1 year of eligibility. Maybe we just scrap the power forward idea entirely and go with a small ball deadeye 4.

I don't know. We could still develop into a very solid and dangerous team by March but our one remaining scholarship choice is not going to turn us into a 17-18 world beater. Too many known and unknown holes to fill.

Will any grad transfer come to a school in transition and possibly moving conferences?

Playing time + post season appearance have to be high on all of their goals.  We don't exactly have those in spades on this years team.

I suppose the lack of a go to scorer (Tevonn is close) could be attractive though.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on April 25, 2017, 08:36:37 AM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on April 25, 2017, 08:33:34 AM
Quote from: justducky on April 24, 2017, 11:01:29 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 24, 2017, 11:07:11 AMA few possible PF Grad Transfers:

-Jeremy Combs (North Texas) http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3132447/jeremy-combs

-Mark Donnal (Michigan) - We've talked about him. Bryce is recruiting him to Vandy.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3132447/jeremy-combs

-Ahmed Hamdy-Mohamed (VCU) He just took a visit toe San Diego State
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66115/ahmed-hamdy-mohamed
I don't see Donnal wanting to move to an at-large long shot and thats what we are (best case) in 17-18. The other two could improve the team but neither has any 3 point shot. As my focus is now on an 18-19 at-large contender (hopefully) maybe we should be thinking about a Ritchie Edwards type player with 3 point skills and 1 year of eligibility. Maybe we just scrap the power forward idea entirely and go with a small ball deadeye 4.

I don't know. We could still develop into a very solid and dangerous team by March but our one remaining scholarship choice is not going to turn us into a 17-18 world beater. Too many known and unknown holes to fill.

Will any grad transfer come to a school in transition and possibly moving conferences?

Playing time + post season appearance have to be high on all of their goals.  We don't exactly have those in spades on this years team.

I suppose the lack of a go to scorer (Tevonn is close) could be attractive though.

I think you will be pleasantly surprised with the scorer options...
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FWalum on April 25, 2017, 08:52:15 AM
Quote from: vu72 on April 25, 2017, 08:36:37 AM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on April 25, 2017, 08:33:34 AM
Quote from: justducky on April 24, 2017, 11:01:29 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 24, 2017, 11:07:11 AMA few possible PF Grad Transfers:

-Jeremy Combs (North Texas) http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3132447/jeremy-combs

-Mark Donnal (Michigan) - We've talked about him. Bryce is recruiting him to Vandy.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3132447/jeremy-combs

-Ahmed Hamdy-Mohamed (VCU) He just took a visit toe San Diego State
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66115/ahmed-hamdy-mohamed
I don't see Donnal wanting to move to an at-large long shot and thats what we are (best case) in 17-18. The other two could improve the team but neither has any 3 point shot. As my focus is now on an 18-19 at-large contender (hopefully) maybe we should be thinking about a Ritchie Edwards type player with 3 point skills and 1 year of eligibility. Maybe we just scrap the power forward idea entirely and go with a small ball deadeye 4.

I don't know. We could still develop into a very solid and dangerous team by March but our one remaining scholarship choice is not going to turn us into a 17-18 world beater. Too many known and unknown holes to fill.

Will any grad transfer come to a school in transition and possibly moving conferences?

Playing time + post season appearance have to be high on all of their goals.  We don't exactly have those in spades on this years team.

I suppose the lack of a go to scorer (Tevonn is close) could be attractive though.

I think you will be pleasantly surprised with the scorer options...

I think a lot of people are really underestimating next years team.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on April 25, 2017, 09:09:25 AM
Quote from: FWalum on April 25, 2017, 08:52:15 AM
Quote from: vu72 on April 25, 2017, 08:36:37 AM

I think you will be pleasantly surprised with the scorer options...

I think a lot of people are really underestimating next years team.

Better this than the opposite, no?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on April 25, 2017, 09:26:39 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on April 25, 2017, 09:09:25 AM
Quote from: FWalum on April 25, 2017, 08:52:15 AM
Quote from: vu72 on April 25, 2017, 08:36:37 AM

I think you will be pleasantly surprised with the scorer options...

I think a lot of people are really underestimating next years team.

Better this than the opposite, no?

We all like our talent.  But how they play together is the only thing that matters.  I don't have minutes from last years team prepared, but we lose 2 starters who were the only real options on last years team SF and PF.  Kiser minutes hardly count because he's not a scorer, we need scoring of around 40 ppg replaced.  Who has the chops?  Tevonn is 18 ppg imo, no more for average.  He plays way to hard on defense to do his magic every night.

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpotx on April 25, 2017, 10:09:56 AM
The entire team dynamic will change next season.  This will be both good and bad early in the season, but the guys will find their roles.  The reason we looked so bad after Alec went down, can be attributed to not understanding how to run our offense, when so much of it revolved around plays for Alec.  We will have a full season to work through roles, so there will be some ugly games, but a lot of exciting ones, as well. 
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bigmosmithfan1 on April 25, 2017, 10:51:21 AM
QuoteThe reason we looked so bad after Alec went down, can be attributed to not understanding how to run our offense, when so much of it revolved around plays for Alec.

This is what's forgotten when people are dismissing VU based on how bad they looked after Alec's injury. Putting aside the fact that no mid-major in the history of college basketball has played well when they've lost an All-American late in the season, Valpo had spent an entire season with an offensive system with Alec as the centerpoint, which became even *more* reliant on him after Jubril's suspension. The team's top two seniors (including arguably the best player in school history) get plucked from the lineup over the course of the season, and VU was supposed to keep rolling on like nothing happened? Come on... on what planet is that a realistic expectation?

Once the NCAA robbed Keith Carter of his senior year and Skara transferred due to Don Bosco's shady behavior, Lottich did the only thing he could: attack the season with his star player and talented starting five, but almost no depth to absorb a major injury or absence from a key contributor(s). When the worst-case scenario unfolded, that plan was exposed, but did VU have any other options this year, given those developments? Not really.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FWalum on April 25, 2017, 12:42:13 PM
I think if you look at the areas of difference between the "15"-"16" vs "16"-"17" teams, I believe it shows our biggest offensive weaknesses last year came in the areas of having a true point guard (We went from #45 in the country to #203 with almost a 20% drop in assists) and reduced offensive rebounding (#16 to #149 with about a 25% drop in ORB). I think these two areas are where we could have the most growth next year. Bakari Evelyn should come in extremely hungry with another year of maturity and ready to show what he can do. I know people have looked at his stats from Nebraska and thought "what happened to the kid that led his team to 3 state championships scoring 25ppg with 4.3 apg?". Well, he was a freshman on a team with 8 other guards and sitting behind another freshman, Glynn Watson Jr., who was #73 on ESPN's top 100 playing 26 minutes a game. That's what happened, the kid was smart and saw the writing on the wall. bigmosmithfan1 was right in the fact that without Carter we ran Hammink as a point forward on many offensive possessions, something that Bakari and Micah can hopefully fix next year. The 2 bigs, Smits and Sorolla, should both show improvement on the glass and we shouldn't have a 6'7" athlete running the point and only getting 3.9 rpg. Having a more traditionally run offense could also help the bigs offensive production. Not to mention we will have Joe Burton a true 3 running the floor instead of being a quasi-point guard.

Defense could shine in the early part of the season, while we wait for the offense to gel, if everyone buys into Matt's concepts.  We will be more athletic and should have the ability to play lock down defense with Smits and Sorolla improving as rim protectors.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: covufan on April 25, 2017, 06:16:43 PM
Tevonn  will be testing the NBA waters:

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/857009157538533377
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpotx on April 25, 2017, 07:00:30 PM
I read it wrong in my first post.  He can still withdraw.  He is not getting drafted this season.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bigmosmithfan1 on April 26, 2017, 10:55:07 AM
QuoteNot true! Hank Gathers collapsed and died during a conference tournament game.He also missed the end of the season with the heart issue that eventually took his life. Loyola Marymount ended up making it to the Elite 8. Gathers was an All-American (multiple years) and most likely lottery pick and Loyola Marymount was and still is a mid-major. They were very good and unique but still a mid-major. It was one of the more famous and inspiring tournament runs in history.

I remember that, and that was horrible (though yes, ultimately inspiring). People forget that Bo Kimble was actually the best player on that team, though (averaged 35 PPG to Gathers' 29, then went on to play for the Clippers and Knicks in the NBA) and carried them through the tourney. Also, that LMU team *averaged* 125 points per game - they played a run-and-gun style (they took a shot every seven seconds) that caught a lot of teams by surprise. To say nothing of the emotions of watching their teammate *die in front of them* probably being a bit stronger than losing a guy to a stress fracture. :(
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bigmosmithfan1 on April 26, 2017, 12:03:42 PM
Point taken (though the fact that we had to go back nearly 30 years to find a counter-example shows how freakishly unusual it is).
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: a3uge on April 26, 2017, 12:42:28 PM


Quote from: bigmosmithfan1 on April 26, 2017, 12:03:42 PM
Point taken (though the fact that we had to go back nearly 30 years to find a counter-example shows how freakishly unusual it is).

That's one of the most famous examples - there's a good 30 for 30 on it called "The Guru of Go" that everyone should check out.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on April 26, 2017, 12:46:45 PM
As I recall that team would shoot as soon as they crossed the mid-court line    ;)  -- and race to get there.  A third pass got you benched   :lol:
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on April 26, 2017, 12:50:26 PM
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/857289632651890690
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/857289687312060427
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bigmosmithfan1 on April 26, 2017, 01:21:03 PM
QuoteAs I recall that team would shoot as soon as they crossed the mid-court line    ;)  -- and race to get there.  A third pass got you benched   :lol:

I remember an interview with their coach that year where he told his players the only excuses for making an extra pass were a) a teammate wide open under the basket and b) you fell down. That was it.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: Valpo89 on April 27, 2017, 03:20:45 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on April 26, 2017, 12:46:45 PM
As I recall that team would shoot as soon as they crossed the mid-court line    ;)  -- and race to get there.  A third pass got you benched   :lol:

There has to be a few people on here who remember when Valpo women's basketball coach Dave Wolter instituted this system, right? His goal was for the team to put up 100 shots per game. Probably helped Debbie Bolen put up her Hall of Fame numbers, although she was a good player regardless of the system.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpotx on April 29, 2017, 05:13:01 PM
Tevonn should immediately withdraw his name, if he is smart:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19273805/nba-invites-more-60-players-draft-combine
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: cornonthe on April 29, 2017, 05:26:22 PM
Quote from: Valpo89 on April 27, 2017, 03:20:45 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on April 26, 2017, 12:46:45 PM
As I recall that team would shoot as soon as they crossed the mid-court line    ;)  -- and race to get there.  A third pass got you benched   :lol:

There has to be a few people on here who remember when Valpo women's basketball coach Dave Wolter instituted this system, right? His goal was for the team to put up 100 shots per game. Probably helped Debbie Bolen put up her Hall of Fame numbers, although she was a good player regardless of the system.
Twas just about to say the same thing, Wolter was a Westhead guru...you mentioned the VU women's team had a 100 shot minimum, but LMU's was 120 or 140 shots, cannot remember which...LOL!!! I remember seeing them on TV a few times, it was when I was still living in Valpo so the games would be on late, but it was worth the stay up to see that spectacle...
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: justducky on April 30, 2017, 01:44:30 PM
Quote from: FWalum on April 25, 2017, 08:52:15 AMI think a lot of people are really underestimating next years team.
You may be right but it looks like we have one clear and undeniable problem.

Our roster is set so lets break things down by position.

Bradford, Joseph, and Evelyn can play the point.   :thumbsup:

Walker, Joseph and maybe Golder at the 2.  Also  :thumbsup:

Burton, Golder and Kiser at the 3.     Also  :thumbsup:

Hazen, McMillan, Kiser and Burton at the 4. Now it gets tricky. Only one of these guys has demonstrated a 3 point shot.

Smits, Sorolla and now LinBen all cloud up the center competition with none demonstrating any shooting range.

Quickly you should recognize the problem. Only one guy out of our PF and Centers is a proven shooting threat beyond 15 feet.

Ok so small ball may be part of the answer but we wii have a lot of big, raw talent just begging for minutes on the floor. Looks to me that Matt must engineer some double low post, power-ball inside opportunities. We have no choice but to play some situations with an oversupply of bigs on the floor (true even if one has to redshirt). To not make that attempt is an open invitation for one or more to pack their bags.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: NativeCheesehead on May 01, 2017, 07:30:52 AM
From the wild guess department: If we start the season and all our bigs are healthy, McMillan redshirts.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FWalum on May 01, 2017, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: justducky on April 30, 2017, 01:44:30 PM
Quote from: FWalum on April 25, 2017, 08:52:15 AMI think a lot of people are really underestimating next years team.
You may be right but it looks like we have one clear and undeniable problem.

Our roster is set so lets break things down by position.

Bradford, Joseph, and Evelyn can play the point. :thumbsup:

Walker, Joseph and maybe Golder at the 2. Also :thumbsup:

Burton, Golder and Kiser at the 3. Also :thumbsup:

Hazen, McMillan, Kiser and Burton at the 4. Now it gets tricky. Only one of these guys has demonstrated a 3 point shot.

Smits, Sorolla and now LinBen all cloud up the center competition with none demonstrating any shooting range.

Quickly you should recognize the problem. Only one guy out of our PF and Centers is a proven shooting threat beyond 15 feet.

Ok so small ball may be part of the answer but we wii have a lot of big, raw talent just begging for minutes on the floor. Looks to me that Matt must engineer some double low post, power-ball inside opportunities. We have no choice but to play some situations with an oversupply of bigs on the floor (true even if one has to redshirt). To not make that attempt is an open invitation for one or more to pack their bags.
I know that the stretch 4 is all the rage and that everyone is trending towards playing 4 out and 1 in, but I really don't see this as a huge issue. I know everyone is trying to recruit the next great (Alec Peters) stretch 4, but the position is still not flooded with players coming out of high school with that skill. One of the main reasons has to do with what Parker Hazen had to deal with this past season. During his junior season, his old coach did not need to play him as a 5 all that much because of his brother. This past year his new coach had him playing much more in the lane, especially early in the season. Plenty of teams still play successfully with a more traditional power forward at the 4 and it looks like that is what we may have to do, at least for next year. I agree that it appears we have a plethora of bigs vying for playing time at the 4-5 positions. Speculation is just that, speculation, who can shoot, who can attack the basket off the dribble, who gets out on the break, who finishes in traffic, we don't know any of that yet for a whole bunch of these players... it will be fun to watch how our young men develop and what skills they possess, it's what I miss most about coaching. At this point, I trust Matt to put the pieces together, after all, he picked out the puzzle.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: covufan on May 01, 2017, 11:02:46 AM
Quote from: justducky on April 30, 2017, 01:44:30 PMQuickly you should recognize the problem. Only one guy out of our PF and Centers is a proven shooting threat beyond 15 feet.
Why do PF's and C's need to be a proven shooting threat beyond 15 feet?  If you can post-up, block out, screen, and recognize where in the defense you can get a good 10-12 foot shot with ball movement - shouldn't these be the skills of PF's and C's?

To be quite honest, I would value more from the PF's and C's rebounding ability - the ability to reduce our opponents to less than their expected offensive rebounds, and the ability to get us extra offensive rebounds on our end - before being a proven shooting threat beyond 15 feet. 

I agree with FWalum: I trust Matt and the coaching staff to figure out which pieces are working well together and getting them the time together on the court.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on May 01, 2017, 11:38:02 AM
Quote from: covufan on May 01, 2017, 11:02:46 AM
Quote from: justducky on April 30, 2017, 01:44:30 PMQuickly you should recognize the problem. Only one guy out of our PF and Centers is a proven shooting threat beyond 15 feet.
Why do PF's and C's need to be a proven shooting threat beyond 15 feet?  If you can post-up, block out, screen, and recognize where in the defense you can get a good 10-12 foot shot with ball movement - shouldn't these be the skills of PF's and C's?

To be quite honest, I would value more from the PF's and C's rebounding ability - the ability to reduce our opponents to less than their expected offensive rebounds, and the ability to get us extra offensive rebounds on our end - before being a proven shooting threat beyond 15 feet. 

I agree with FWalum: I trust Matt and the coaching staff to figure out which pieces are working well together and getting them the time together on the court.

Go no futher than Vashil.  How many times last season  did I see something  on this forum essentially wishing we had Vashil back  And *all* he did was rebound, block shots and score inside of 12'.  Does a modern college BB team need 5 guys on the floor who drain 3's?  If they are all shooting 3's, who is minding fort inside?  It was a nice change up with Jubril pulling out his man and hitting 3's on occasion, but we lost rebounding when that happened.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FWalum on May 01, 2017, 12:45:11 PM
Video of Hazen hitting some 3's in the sectional final. http://www.hudl.com/v/1jkifp (http://www.hudl.com/v/1jkifp)

Maybe I missed it, but I don't remember seeing this video from October 2016 of Mileek.  More athletic than I remember.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on May 01, 2017, 12:58:50 PM
It's hard to imagine that we have ever had as athletic of a team as we will have for the next few years. 
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on May 01, 2017, 01:02:22 PM
Mileek is definitely way more athletic then people think. He showed it in his AAU games when he was playing his natural 3-4/stretch 4 position. Mileek can step back and hit 3s also. He just didn't get show any of that in HS this season because his HS coaches made him play Center this season because he was the tallest guy on the team.

From what I've heard is he's pretty raw isn't a finished product (not many are coming out of high school). But can develop in a pretty nice player.

As for Parker I think he needs to work on the jump-shot. He doesn't need to be an Alec caliber shooter but he needs to develop the jump-shot to help space the floor and keep defenders honest. If he works on the jump-shot then we'll be able to have more combinations of lineups on the court. The coaching staff is looking versatility. I heard Parker was pretty much the only good player on his team this season and he also had to play out of position. You could see Parker defending some SFs because he's quick enough/athletic enough and has the size to defend that position.

I think both of these guys will really be benefited from our coaching staff working with them and developing their game.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: justducky on May 01, 2017, 11:27:11 PM
Quote from: covufan on May 01, 2017, 11:02:46 AMWhy do PF's and C's need to be a proven shooting threat beyond 15 feet?  If you can post-up, block out, screen, and recognize where in the defense you can get a good 10-12 foot shot with ball movement - shouldn't these be the skills of PF's and C's?
Broekhoff, Edwards, Capo, Adekoya, Peters. We have had a fair number of 4s and 5s that could help keep the driving lanes open by needing to be guarded beyond the arc. Matt likes the drive and dish. Now Matt has recruited a team which might not be fully suitable (immediately) for that mindset. Can he recreate some of his offense? Sure! Modify and adapt! Looks to me he may have no other choice for the 17-18 season.

I am not going to question our recruiting judgements. I am sure Matt has a reason for all his choices. BUT -------I continue to believe that some of his choices have been precision targeted toward 18-19 rather than 17-18. Along with you I hope I that my 18-19 vision decides to show up next March.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on May 03, 2017, 09:20:34 AM
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Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on May 03, 2017, 09:37:04 AM
I'd like to see them get someone who is real familiar with NWI and Chicagoland. Someone with a lot of connections who doesn't necessarily have to have professional playing experience.  Valpo has done better recruiting NWI and Chicago, but I feel like there is a near endless supply of D1 level kids around here.  Having a younger local guy with those connections could really help.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpo4life on May 03, 2017, 11:25:09 AM
Tevonn is returning to school, per Rothstein and Goodman
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bigmosmithfan1 on May 03, 2017, 11:44:58 AM
Huge. Tevonn has been the most underrated piece of our success the past three years IMO, and I'm so happy to get a chance to see him as the senior leader on the team.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on May 03, 2017, 11:58:01 AM
Not surprise he's returning but good he got feedback.  Lottich mentioned he fully expects him back at Valpo next season (not transferring).

The NBA scouts like his athleticism but said they want to see better shooting. Hopefully he works on that this summer.

If Tevonn could add a consistent outside jump shot then he'd honestly be a Horizon League Player of the Year candidate.

https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/859810135690051585
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/859810511407517696
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on May 03, 2017, 12:13:03 PM
Yeah, ya know, or whatever conference the team ends up playing in.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on May 03, 2017, 12:17:09 PM
Quote from: M on May 03, 2017, 12:13:03 PM
Yeah, ya know, or whatever conference the team ends up playing in.  ;D

Personally I like Missouri Valley Conference Player of the Year, better.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpotx on May 03, 2017, 09:02:17 PM
It would be stupid for him to transfer, as I have to believe we would know if he is graduating by now. 
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpopal on May 04, 2017, 09:14:28 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on May 03, 2017, 11:58:01 AM

The NBA scouts like his athleticism but said they want to see better shooting. Hopefully he works on that this summer.

If Tevonn could add a consistent outside jump shot then he'd honestly be a Horizon League Player of the Year candidate.



Tevonn shot 29% from 3-pt range this year. I'd like to see him return to the 35% he shot his freshman year or even higher. I hope witnessing the terrific work ethic of Alec has influenced Tevonn.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on May 04, 2017, 09:39:33 PM
Alec's work ethic surely rubbed off on the rest. I think his dedication to Valpo in that he returned without seemingly giving it a second thought is equally important and contagious to the guys remaining and potentially those in the future.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on May 04, 2017, 11:15:54 PM
Quote from: M on May 04, 2017, 09:39:33 PM
Alec's work ethic surely rubbed off on the rest. I think his dedication to Valpo in that he returned without seemingly giving it a second thought is equally important and contagious to the guys remaining and potentially those in the future.

That.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on May 12, 2017, 05:21:14 PM
Where is the official announcement and signed paperwork from Germany?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on May 12, 2017, 05:50:02 PM
http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2016-17/17383/linssen-joins-valpo-basketball-family/#.WRY78_ryv-Z

Linssen Joins Valpo Basketball Family
Tuesday, May 2, 2017

Valparaiso University men's basketball head coach Matt Lottich announced today that the Crusaders are adding to their tradition of welcoming international players to the program, as Marten Linssen, a 6'8" forward from Dusseldorf, Germany, has signed a National Letter of Intent and will join the Crusader program as a freshman for the 2017-18 season.

"We are extremely excited to add Marten to the Valpo basketball family," said Lottich. "Marten is an extremely motivated young man who really has a strong desire to compete. Marten is unique in that he is very light on his feet for a young man his size. He has great touch around the basket and loves to rebound. We expect a bright future in a Valpo uniform for Marten."

Linssen comes to Valpo having most recently played for Bayer Giants Leverkusen in Germany, splitting time between their Pro B league squad and their youth team in the NBBL. Linssen was a member of the NBBL All-Star Team this past season, averaging 12.8 points and 8.9 rebounds per game, and posted 4.4 points and 3.5 rebounds per game in action with the Pro B team. Linssen's head coach at Bayer Giants Leverkusen is Achim Kuczmann, who coached Lottich when he played in Germany for Giants Dusseldorf.

As has been the case with many of the Crusaders' overseas recruits over the years, Linssen brings experience playing at the highest levels of international basketball as well. He was a member of the u18 German national team at the 2016 u18 European Championships, joining a talented frontcourt to help Germany place fourth. Among his teammates on the u18 squad was Isaiah Hartenstein, a projected first-round pick in this year's NBA draft.

Linssen is set to be the sixth new face on the court for the Crusaders next season, joining fellow incoming freshmen Mileek McMillan and Parker Hazen, junior college transfer Markus Golder and eligible transfers Joe Burton and Bakari Evelyn. In addition, Ryan Fazekas is joining the program as well, but will be sitting out next season due to NCAA transfer regulations.

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on May 12, 2017, 06:04:26 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on May 12, 2017, 05:50:02 PM
http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2016-17/17383/linssen-joins-valpo-basketball-family/#.WRY78_ryv-Z

Linssen Joins Valpo Basketball Family
Tuesday, May 2, 2017

Valparaiso University men's basketball head coach Matt Lottich announced today that the Crusaders are adding to their tradition of welcoming international players to the program, as Marten Linssen, a 6'8" forward from Dusseldorf, Germany, has signed a National Letter of Intent and will join the Crusader program as a freshman for the 2017-18 season.

"We are extremely excited to add Marten to the Valpo basketball family," said Lottich. "Marten is an extremely motivated young man who really has a strong desire to compete. Marten is unique in that he is very light on his feet for a young man his size. He has great touch around the basket and loves to rebound. We expect a bright future in a Valpo uniform for Marten."

Linssen comes to Valpo having most recently played for Bayer Giants Leverkusen in Germany, splitting time between their Pro B league squad and their youth team in the NBBL. Linssen was a member of the NBBL All-Star Team this past season, averaging 12.8 points and 8.9 rebounds per game, and posted 4.4 points and 3.5 rebounds per game in action with the Pro B team. Linssen's head coach at Bayer Giants Leverkusen is Achim Kuczmann, who coached Lottich when he played in Germany for Giants Dusseldorf.

As has been the case with many of the Crusaders' overseas recruits over the years, Linssen brings experience playing at the highest levels of international basketball as well. He was a member of the u18 German national team at the 2016 u18 European Championships, joining a talented frontcourt to help Germany place fourth. Among his teammates on the u18 squad was Isaiah Hartenstein, a projected first-round pick in this year's NBA draft.

Linssen is set to be the sixth new face on the court for the Crusaders next season, joining fellow incoming freshmen Mileek McMillan and Parker Hazen, junior college transfer Markus Golder and eligible transfers Joe Burton and Bakari Evelyn. In addition, Ryan Fazekas is joining the program as well, but will be sitting out next season due to NCAA transfer regulations.

There it is!!!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: SanityLost17 on May 13, 2017, 08:47:15 AM
I think the success of next year's team comes down to the development of our centers.  If sorolla/Smits get better, we are in great shape.  If they don't, we are in trouble.  We will not be a great 3 point shooting team.  These guys need open looks to hit consistently.  That means we need a legit post presence.  Without one I forsee a very stagnant offense unless the coaching staffs long term vision is to recruit athletes and become a run and gun full court press, 2nd chance points sort of team.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpotx on May 13, 2017, 11:54:44 AM
The MVC fans forum seems to indicate that the conference is a 'big man's league,' though there are some dissenters.  Hopefully that will be to our benefit, with our height!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FWalum on May 13, 2017, 12:31:38 PM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on May 13, 2017, 08:47:15 AM
I think the success of next year's team comes down to the development of our centers.  If sorolla/Smits get better, we are in great shape.  If they don't, we are in trouble.  We will not be a great 3 point shooting team.  These guys need open looks to hit consistently.  That means we need a legit post presence.  Without one I forsee a very stagnant offense unless the coaching staffs long term vision is to recruit athletes and become a run and gun full court press, 2nd chance points sort of team.
The Bigs will improve, their main deficiency is a lack of intensity and focus.  I think it is too early to judge the 3 point shooting capabilities of the team.  Walker's best year from 3 was as a freshman and I would hope with the emphasis placed by the NBA on improved shooting, that someone will help him keep his lower body quiet and in position when shooting.  Joe Burton was a 40% 3 point shooter at OSU and the sample size on Bakari's ability is very small... so hard to tell if he will be a factor from 3.  My main concern is the PG position.  Can Bakari, Micah and Max perform at point well enough to keep us from duplicating last years Shane Hammink point forward experiment with Joe Burton? Burton appears to be able to handle the ball better than Shane, but I would really prefer to have someone else setting the offense and  distributing the rock.  The pressure to score will fall mainly to Walker and Burton, lets hope that we can get the ball to them and the Bigs in position to slash and score.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on May 13, 2017, 02:50:27 PM
A really interesting story by Paul about Milt Schoon from the "worlds tallest" team. I really enjoy Paul's Bumpers audio clips. Give it a listen.

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/863479703365193728
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on May 18, 2017, 04:01:57 PM
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/865310485796859905

http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2016-17/17427/gore-bradford-smits-to-embark-on-athletes-in-action-tour/#.WR4LqvryuAw

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on May 18, 2017, 05:56:25 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on May 18, 2017, 04:01:57 PM
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/865310485796859905

http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2016-17/17427/gore-bradford-smits-to-embark-on-athletes-in-action-tour/#.WR4LqvryuAw

We couldn't have selected a better duo to gain experience and CONFIDENCE!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on May 20, 2017, 06:48:30 AM
Gordo: Missouri State poised for hoops breakthrough
By Jeff Gordon St. Louis Post-Dispatch  6 hrs ago


"Newcomer Valparaiso will be factor in next season's race, as will Northern Iowa. Both are traditional mid-major powers capable of furthering the Valley brand."

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/gordo-missouri-state-poised-for-hoops-breakthrough/article_222b9670-c140-5b90-b53b-6b9edeec538e.html
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on May 20, 2017, 11:19:17 AM
Quote from: wh on May 20, 2017, 06:48:30 AM
Gordo: Missouri State poised for hoops breakthrough
By Jeff Gordon St. Louis Post-Dispatch  6 hrs ago


"Newcomer Valparaiso will be factor in next season's race, as will Northern Iowa. Both are traditional mid-major powers capable of furthering the Valley brand."

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/gordo-missouri-state-poised-for-hoops-breakthrough/article_222b9670-c140-5b90-b53b-6b9edeec538e.html

It sounds like Missouri State will be loaded. I found it interesting that the reporter said that Greg Williams was "arguably the top recruit of the Lusk era"  ESPN has him as a 3 Star.

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/186438/greg-williams
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on May 20, 2017, 06:02:04 PM
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/866054542542200832

Valparaiso men's basketball trio heads to Europe through Athletes in Action
Michael Osipoff
Post-Tribune
May 20, 2017


http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-mens-basketball-valparaiso-athletes-in-action-st-0521-20170522-story.html

..........

Bradford's first college season was a learning experience. The freshman guard appeared in all 33 games, including 11 starts, with all 11 coming in Horizon League play. He averaged 4.0 points in 14.0 minutes.

Bradford has been focusing on adding size to his 150-pound frame, finishing at the rim and refining his shot.

"The biggest part is just staying ready for anything that happens," Bradford said. "Obviously we had injury and other problems, and I wasn't playing much at the beginning of the season, then I was in the starting lineup. You have to be ready for anything."

........

Smits was ready to play with the Dutch national team, traveling to China and throughout Europe. But when the games in China fell through, he jumped at the chance with Athletes in Action.

.........

"Getting time on the court instead of sitting on the sideline was good for my growth," Smits said. "You figure out what works, what doesn't work, instead of just trying to eyeball everything."

Smits has been working on improving his athleticism, rebounding, using his off-hand, passing and extending his shooting range.

"Getting more games is really good," Smits said. "You can do individual stuff, but nothing beats playing with a team and going against other competitors."

........

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on May 22, 2017, 09:32:33 AM
Pretty big MVC news. Missouri States best player Alize Johnson will withdraw from the NBA Draft.

https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/866647386910752768

Its a big week for college basketball. Players have until Wednesday to withdraw from the NBA Draft and return to school.

https://twitter.com/Aaron_Torres/status/866413460950704129

One interesting note is that Purdue's Caleb Swanigan and Vince Edwards have still not signed with an agent yet in the draft and Purdue currently has -1 scholarships available for the class of 2017. They 2017 signed recruits include: Aaron Wheeler (SF), Nojel Eastern (SG), and former Valpo recruit Sasha Stefanovic (SG).

So looks like someone will need to red-shirt next year... possibly Sasha Stefanovic if Vince Edwards comes back to school (which many believe is likely at this point) and Purdue is pretty hot on the recruiting trailing on a few players like Romeo Langford (SG) 5-star, Eric Hunter Jr. 4-star (SG),  Isaiah Thompson (SG) little brother of current Purdue player P.J. Thompson. There is going to be some very stiff competition at the SG minutes going forward...

Also interesting because we play Purdue next season. Purdue will already be a really tough game, but if Swanigan comes back then it will be even more tough.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on May 22, 2017, 10:13:17 AM
Re: Sasha:  If it is true that Purdue is at -1 if Edwards returns, and Sasha winds up being the odd man out, will he not have to redshirt as a walk-on and have to pay his own way?  And if that is the case, why not simply not enroll.  That would give him 4 seasons of elegibility in 5 years beginning the following year -- the fall of 1918.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on May 22, 2017, 10:34:51 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on May 22, 2017, 10:13:17 AM
Re: Sasha, if it is true that Purdue is at -1 if Edwards returns, and Sasha is the odd man out, will he not have to redshirt as a walk-on and have to pay his own way.  And if that is the case, why not simply not enroll.  That would give him 4 seasons of eligibility in 5 years beginning the following year -- the fall of 1918.

I think he can still red-shirt his freshman year (I don't think he'll be paying out-of-pocket)

I don't think there is anyway he isn't on Purdue's campus next year. He's about as hard of a commit as they come and already signed his letter of intent. Going to the BIG 10 school was really important to him and mattered more then early playing time and opportunity of early development. My guess is he red-shirts next season, but who knows what he'll do if Purdue lands 1 or 2 of the 6 current other SG's they've already offered for class of 2018. Maybe he'll see the importance benefit of opportunity of playing time & early development down the road if he doesn't get that on Purdue's roster and transfer down the road. Lots of High School kids don't have the maturity yet to look at the big picture. Not saying I hope he transfers but I do hope he doesn't get too caught up with needing to be on a Power Conference team. Hopefully he ends up doing whats best for development as player. He has a lot potential and shouldn't be riding a bench.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on May 22, 2017, 11:08:07 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on May 22, 2017, 10:13:17 AMThat would give him 4 seasons of elegibility in 5 years beginning the following year -- the fall of 1918.

Well, at least WW I will be over.  :)
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: Dave_2010 on May 22, 2017, 12:20:02 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on May 22, 2017, 10:34:51 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on May 22, 2017, 10:13:17 AM
Re: Sasha, if it is true that Purdue is at -1 if Edwards returns, and Sasha is the odd man out, will he not have to redshirt as a walk-on and have to pay his own way.  And if that is the case, why not simply not enroll.  That would give him 4 seasons of eligibility in 5 years beginning the following year -- the fall of 1918.

I think he can still red-shirt his freshman year (I don't think he'll be paying out-of-pocket)


Whether the player redshirts or not, his scholarship will count against the school's allotment. If you have 14 scholarship players, someone has to go.

Football is able to get around this with the "greyshirt" process by which the player doesn't enroll/get his scholarship until the spring semester of his freshman year, but I doubt that will work in a 2 semester sport like basketball.


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Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on May 22, 2017, 12:33:45 PM
Sounds like someone will eventually be asked to either walk on for a year or go prep.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on May 22, 2017, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: M on May 22, 2017, 12:33:45 PM
Sounds like someone will eventually be asked to either walk on for a year or go prep.

I know it was rumored while Valpo was still in play in his recruiting that he was thinking about playing at a prep for a year.

Bummer for him if he gets forced to go prep or walk-on after already signing his letter of intent.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on May 22, 2017, 01:45:29 PM
Kinda like David Revalo when Vashil got his 4th year of elegibility.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: historyman on May 22, 2017, 04:07:55 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on May 12, 2017, 05:21:14 PM
Where is the official announcement and signed paperwork from Germany?

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You didn't say which German paperwork.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: historyman on May 22, 2017, 04:17:44 PM
Quote from: bbtds on May 22, 2017, 11:08:07 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on May 22, 2017, 10:13:17 AMThat would give him 4 seasons of elegibility in 5 years beginning the following year -- the fall of 1918.

Well, at least WW I will be over. :-)


Actually not till Nov. 11, 1918 at 11:11 a.m. French time (Armistice signed in Compiegne, France).

If we get another Serbian player than the war effort was all worth it. Of course we have the German player now so we must watch our p's and q's and our double s's. :-)
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on May 23, 2017, 11:47:35 AM
https://twitter.com/ValpoBasketball/status/867055690120138754
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on May 23, 2017, 11:52:02 AM
Derrik is one tall dude.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: covufan on May 23, 2017, 12:24:31 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on May 23, 2017, 11:52:02 AM
Derrik is one tall dude.
And yet, still not the tallest when he heads home for a weekend!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on May 23, 2017, 12:35:56 PM
He should always look up to someone.  :)
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on May 24, 2017, 01:36:11 PM
Mileek's High School coaches tweets. Really found the "point/forward/guard" mention interesting. A nod to his versatility.

I'm excited to see what a lot of the new guys like Mileek can do next year.

https://twitter.com/bojansayspotato/status/866838447675330560
https://twitter.com/bopat10/status/867422471317848064
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on May 27, 2017, 03:18:27 PM
https://twitter.com/coachgore/status/868460099790139392
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on May 29, 2017, 07:02:59 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DA5zgqoXYAAog6e.jpg

Markus Golder Tweet.  I think this guy is serious!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on June 01, 2017, 02:04:11 PM
Mid-Madness's Way too early Mid-Major rankings (Valpo is unranked).

http://www.midmajormadness.com/2017/5/31/15715078/mid-major-madness-power-rankings-update-gonzaga-western-kentucky-grand-canyon

RANK  TEAM   2016-17 RECORD
1   Gonzaga (4)   37-2
2   Saint Mary's (4)   29-5   
3   Rhode Island (1)   25-10
4   Vermont   29-6
5   UT Arlington   27-9   
6   Nevada   28-7   
7   Middle Tennessee   31-5   
8   BYU   22-12   
9   Western Kentucky   15-17
10   College of Charleston   25-10
11   Bucknell   26-9   
12   Oakland   25-9   
12   Princeton   23-7
14   Florida Gulf Coast   26-8   
15   Illinois State   28-7   
16   VCU   26-9   
17   San Diego State   19-14   
18   Dayton   24-8   
19   New Mexico State   
20   Harvard   18-10
20   Boise State   20-12   
22   St. Bonaventure   20-12
23   UNC Asheville   23-10   
24   UNC Wilmington   29-6   
25   Grand Canyon   22-9   

The Next Ten: Yale, Saint Louis, Davidson, Northern Kentucky, UC Davis, Wyoming, East Tennessee State, Old Dominion, Louisiana Tech, Saint Joseph's.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on June 01, 2017, 05:55:02 PM
Quote from: vu72 on May 29, 2017, 07:02:59 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DA5zgqoXYAAog6e.jpg

Markus Golder Tweet.  I think this guy is serious!

Just like VU and the HL most VU basketball players have "been there, done that"
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on June 03, 2017, 12:25:40 PM
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/871053911796449280
https://twitter.com/mid_madness/status/871049623934291968

http://www.midmajormadness.com/2017/6/3/15713918/part-1-eligible-transfers-on-ncaa-tournament-bids-lamonte-bearden-wku-joe-burton-brekkott-chapman

Part 1: Eligible transfers that could have an impact on NCAA Tournament bids
After a year on the bench, these players are ready to help their new programs.
by Jordan Burton  Jun 3, 2017, 10:03am PDT

More than 700 players across the nation have swapped schools this season with each program hoping to catch lightning in a bottle as the second, and in some cases third, team these players will have suited up for.

Last year, Arkansas transfer JaCorey Williams was the CUSA POY for Middle Tennessee and helped the Blue Raiders score a first round upset over Minnesota. Over a multi-part series, we'll be taking a look at transfers that sat out the 2016-17 season, but could have a similar impact on NCAA Tournament bids.

NOTE: This does NOT include 2016-17 transfers, only players that transferred during the 2015-16 season and sat out last season.

...............
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on June 15, 2017, 10:33:02 PM
https://twitter.com/PostTribSports/status/875493968053665796
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-mens-basketball-valparaiso-athletes-in-action-st-0616-20170615-story.html

Valparaiso's Luke Gore, Micah Bradford, Derrik Smits grow on European trip
By: Michael Osipoff
Post-Tribune
Date: June 15, 2017

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on June 17, 2017, 05:27:00 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 15, 2017, 10:33:02 PM
https://twitter.com/PostTribSports/status/875493968053665796
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-mens-basketball-valparaiso-athletes-in-action-st-0616-20170615-story.html

Valparaiso's Luke Gore, Micah Bradford, Derrik Smits grow on European trip
By: Michael Osipoff
Post-Tribune
Date: June 15, 2017

Kansas State dismisses forward Isaiah Maurice
(after he returns from AIA trip)

https://www.fanragsports.com/news/kansas-state-dismisses-forward-isaiah-maurice/
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on June 17, 2017, 07:25:33 AM
Quote from: wh on June 17, 2017, 05:27:00 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 15, 2017, 10:33:02 PM
https://twitter.com/PostTribSports/status/875493968053665796
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-mens-basketball-valparaiso-athletes-in-action-st-0616-20170615-story.html

Valparaiso's Luke Gore, Micah Bradford, Derrik Smits grow on European trip
By: Michael Osipoff
Post-Tribune
Date: June 15, 2017

Kansas State dismisses forward Isaiah Maurice
(after he returns from AIA trip)

https://www.fanragsports.com/news/kansas-state-dismisses-forward-isaiah-maurice/

Wow!  Apparently hanging out with those Christians was too much for Webber!   ???
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on June 17, 2017, 08:20:06 AM
"There are standards of conduct required to be a member of our program, and there are consequences when those standards aren't met," Weber said in the release. "Isaiah did not meet his responsibilities, and unfortunately this is the result."

It could be Webber thought the student/athlete sacrificed too much of his time to play for AIA and that became apparent when Maurice returned. It would be interesting to hear the whole story from Bradford and Smits about Maurice's conduct on the Poland trip.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: a3uge on June 17, 2017, 08:52:33 AM
Quote from: wh on June 17, 2017, 05:27:00 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 15, 2017, 10:33:02 PM
https://twitter.com/PostTribSports/status/875493968053665796
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-mens-basketball-valparaiso-athletes-in-action-st-0616-20170615-story.html

Valparaiso's Luke Gore, Micah Bradford, Derrik Smits grow on European trip
By: Michael Osipoff
Post-Tribune
Date: June 15, 2017

Kansas State dismisses forward Isaiah Maurice
(after he returns from AIA trip)

https://www.fanragsports.com/news/kansas-state-dismisses-forward-isaiah-maurice/
Cc @GregKampe
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpo64 on June 17, 2017, 09:59:43 AM
Just for info...when Coach Weber was at both Purdue and Illinois he was a faithful member of a Lutheran Church and attended regularly
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on June 17, 2017, 11:12:31 AM
Quote from: bbtds on June 17, 2017, 08:20:06 AM
"There are standards of conduct required to be a member of our program, and there are consequences when those standards aren't met," Weber said in the release. "Isaiah did not meet his responsibilities, and unfortunately this is the result."

It could be Webber thought the student/athlete sacrificed too much of his time to play for AIA and that became apparent when Maurice returned. It would be interesting to hear the whole story from Bradford and Smits about Maurice's conduct on the Poland trip.

AIA players generally are really good kids. Coach Gore will have had a very close-up view of this young man's personality, habits and behavior. Traveling in eastern Europe as a cobbled-together team tells a lot about character. Depending on the real reason for his dismissal (assuming the absence of anything felonious) and assuming that the trip contributed to some sort of coach/player/VU players bonding, might it be reasonable to hear some discussions about him in a Valpo future context?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU75 on June 17, 2017, 03:43:57 PM
Quote from: vu72 on June 17, 2017, 07:25:33 AMWow!  Apparently hanging out with those Christians was too much for Webber!   ???

Actually Maurice was suspended by Weber for three games last season for rules violations so the roots of this dismissal are much deeper then this trip.

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on June 17, 2017, 08:43:08 PM
It sounds like Chandler Levingston-Simon will be transferring to Goldey-Beacom according to Verbal Commits.

Chandler was always a great kid. I believe he will be a grad-transfer for his final year of eligibility. Goldey-Beacom is a D2 program.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on June 17, 2017, 09:19:35 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 17, 2017, 08:43:08 PM
It sounds like Chandler Levingston-Simon will be transferring to Goldey-Beacom according to Verbal Commits.

Chandler was always a great kid. I believe he will be a grad-transfer for his final year of eligibility. Goldey-Beacom is a D2 program.

How many walk-ons do we need for a good practice environment?  We lose (3) from last years team right?  So far no replacements...
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on June 17, 2017, 09:31:45 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 17, 2017, 09:19:35 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 17, 2017, 08:43:08 PM
It sounds like Chandler Levingston-Simon will be transferring to Goldey-Beacom according to Verbal Commits.

Chandler was always a great kid. I believe he will be a grad-transfer for his final year of eligibility. Goldey-Beacom is a D2 program.

How many walk-ons do we need for a good practice environment?  We lose (3) from last years team right?  So far no replacements...

Looking back 10-years we fluctuate between 12-14 regularly with only last year carrying 15.  So the answer appears to be 0-2 walk-ons per year.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: IndyValpo on June 18, 2017, 07:17:39 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 17, 2017, 08:43:08 PM
It sounds like Chandler Levingston-Simon will be transferring to Goldey-Beacom according to Verbal Commits.

Chandler was always a great kid. I believe he will be a grad-transfer for his final year of eligibility. Goldey-Beacom is a D2 program.
Good for him. Hopefully he gets some playing time. He was a good soldier for us.

Hopefully, we have some walk-ons lined up. They are valuable and crowd favorites.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on June 19, 2017, 09:39:06 AM
Good to see the guys wanting to get back in the gym and wanting next season to begin already.

https://twitter.com/JaumeSorolla/status/876384997430538240

I was pretty happy with Sorolla's freshman year, but he looked like he wore down little bit at the end. I was pretty impressed by what he showed early on. Hoping he and Smits can take that next step.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on June 19, 2017, 11:54:08 AM
His Instagram account shows him as a citizen of Cleveland.  I thought he was from Spain  ::)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVejnjYhM97VwHnHpFfa3tiGSFB6jqLaXFIbFk0/
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on June 19, 2017, 02:37:25 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 19, 2017, 09:39:06 AM
Good to see the guys wanting to get back in the gym and wanting next season to begin already.

https://twitter.com/JaumeSorolla/status/876384997430538240

I was pretty happy with Sorolla's freshman year, but he looked like he wore down little bit at the end. I was pretty impressed by what he showed early on. Hoping he and Smits can take that next step.

Not disagreeing that he did wear down, but it's no coincidence that both he and Derrik played their worst basketball when Alec went down. Without Alec to worry about opposing defenses packed everything inside, which eliminated all the soft pressure our bigs had grown accustomed to. Neither one appeared to show a willingness to elevate their effort to match a higher level of defensive intensity.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on June 19, 2017, 03:03:44 PM
Quote from: wh on June 19, 2017, 02:37:25 PM
Not disagreeing that he did wear down, but it's no coincidence that both he and Derrik played their worst basketball when Alec went down. Without Alec to worry about opposing defenses packed everything inside, which eliminated all the soft pressure our bigs had grown accustomed to. Neither one appeared to show a willingness to elevate their effort to match a higher level of defensive intensity.

I can't disagree with you there. Jay looked really tired by the end of the season.

The lack of effort at times and defensive intensity really did bother me. At the end of the day players can only control the intensity and effort they bring onto the court. Both guys and particularly Smits needs to embrace some physicality when they are in the paint/post. His finesse and touch for a 7fter is a strength but he needs to also needs to play a little bit more physical of a brand.

Luckily we have the big 'Das Hammer!' coming in next season! In the words of Coach Lottich, "he's the type of guy who will rip your arm off for a rebound". If he's that type of player then he will earn himself some playing time as a freshman, no matter much work the offensive skills need some polish and work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPbZbiFyJQg
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: a3uge on June 19, 2017, 03:36:17 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 19, 2017, 03:03:44 PM
Quote from: wh on June 19, 2017, 02:37:25 PM
Not disagreeing that he did wear down, but it's no coincidence that both he and Derrik played their worst basketball when Alec went down. Without Alec to worry about opposing defenses packed everything inside, which eliminated all the soft pressure our bigs had grown accustomed to. Neither one appeared to show a willingness to elevate their effort to match a higher level of defensive intensity.

I can't disagree with you there. Jay looked really tired by the end of the season.

The lack of effort at times and defensive intensity really did bother me. At the end of the day players can only control the intensity and effort they bring onto the court. Both guys and particularly Smits needs to embrace some physicality when they are in the paint/post. His finesse and touch for a 7fter is a strength but he needs to also needs to play a little bit more physical of a brand.

Luckily we have the big 'Das Hammer!' coming in next season! In the words of Coach Lottich, "he's the type of guy who will rip your arm off for a rebound". If he's that type of player then he will earn himself some playing time as a freshman, no matter much work the offensive skills need some polish and work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPbZbiFyJQg
It's actually Der Hammer, I think.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on June 19, 2017, 07:11:40 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on June 19, 2017, 11:54:08 AM
His Instagram account shows him as a citizen of Cleveland.  I thought he was from Spain  ::)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVejnjYhM97VwHnHpFfa3tiGSFB6jqLaXFIbFk0/

Could be staying with a family friend state-side.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on June 19, 2017, 08:13:17 PM
Quote from: a3uge on June 19, 2017, 03:36:17 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 19, 2017, 03:03:44 PM
Quote from: wh on June 19, 2017, 02:37:25 PM
Not disagreeing that he did wear down, but it's no coincidence that both he and Derrik played their worst basketball when Alec went down. Without Alec to worry about opposing defenses packed everything inside, which eliminated all the soft pressure our bigs had grown accustomed to. Neither one appeared to show a willingness to elevate their effort to match a higher level of defensive intensity.

I can't disagree with you there. Jay looked really tired by the end of the season.

The lack of effort at times and defensive intensity really did bother me. At the end of the day players can only control the intensity and effort they bring onto the court. Both guys and particularly Smits needs to embrace some physicality when they are in the paint/post. His finesse and touch for a 7fter is a strength but he needs to also needs to play a little bit more physical of a brand.

Luckily we have the big 'Das Hammer!' coming in next season! In the words of Coach Lottich, "he's the type of guy who will rip your arm off for a rebound". If he's that type of player then he will earn himself some playing time as a freshman, no matter much work the offensive skills need some polish and work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPbZbiFyJQg
It's actually Der Hammer, I think.

It's a masculine word so it is Der Hammer.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vusupporter on June 20, 2017, 08:47:31 AM
That is the location of that specific photo.

Quote from: VULB#62 on June 19, 2017, 11:54:08 AM
His Instagram account shows him as a citizen of Cleveland.  I thought he was from Spain  ::)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVejnjYhM97VwHnHpFfa3tiGSFB6jqLaXFIbFk0/
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on June 20, 2017, 09:22:42 AM
https://twitter.com/ValleyHoops/status/877167604724633600
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on June 20, 2017, 10:12:46 AM
The Teleconference is live if you want to stream/listen to it now. Probably Valpo heavy with asking coaches about what they think of Valpo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIDZoa8mIyM
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on June 20, 2017, 03:23:02 PM
Kinda thought Coach Lottich was "playing possum" with the interview. When asked about players he only referenced Max and Tevonn. Obviously those guys, particularly Tevonn, will be key parts of our success but we also have a bunch of talent that perhaps he just want to keep quiet about for the time being.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on June 20, 2017, 03:50:58 PM
Quote from: vu72 on June 20, 2017, 03:23:02 PM
Kinda thought Coach Lottich was "playing possum" with the interview. When asked about players he only referenced Max and Tevonn. Obviously those guys, particularly Tevonn, will be key parts of our success but we also have a bunch of talent that perhaps he just want to keep quiet about for the time being.  ;D

I've been noticing Lottich has been giving Max some shout outs & showing some love in these MVC interviews since its been official. I think its more Coach Lottich giving his 4-year Senior some praise. Max has been good solider his whole time here.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FWalum on June 21, 2017, 08:37:13 AM
Full interview begins at 9:00 minutes in.  Matt begins at 1:43:25.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: covufan on June 21, 2017, 07:46:41 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 19, 2017, 09:39:06 AM
Good to see the guys wanting to get back in the gym and wanting next season to begin already.

https://twitter.com/JaumeSorolla/status/876384997430538240

I was pretty happy with Sorolla's freshman year, but he looked like he wore down little bit at the end. I was pretty impressed by what he showed early on. Hoping he and Smits can take that next step.
Maybe they'll rest him a couple of games early in the season.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on June 21, 2017, 08:26:38 PM
I believe he has to sit one game for the incident from last school year.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on June 22, 2017, 05:56:47 PM
Who would you guys pick in dunk contest from our team?

I'd go with Markus. Maybe Tevonn, Joe, maybe Bakari?

https://twitter.com/valpo_hoops/status/878003902314164224
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FWalum on June 23, 2017, 08:49:32 AM
Would have to be Golder or Burton.  We've seen Markus win a dunk contest and remembering Jubril's comments about Joe being an "athletic freak" who he thought could touch the top of the backboard (an obvious exaggeration, but often used to describe mad hops).
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on July 01, 2017, 11:53:00 AM
https://twitter.com/sportspartizan/status/880895841627774976
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on July 02, 2017, 11:34:36 PM
https://twitter.com/barrybradford3/status/881197840181211136
https://twitter.com/barrybradford3/status/881248313458208768
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: jtm on July 03, 2017, 07:58:47 AM
The 2017-18 roster is up, if anyone is interested.

It's interesting to see how jersey numbers in the 40s and 50s have dwindled significantly. Are those numerals really that uncool for kids these days? But I guess not a lot of NBA players wear those numbers either anymore.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on July 03, 2017, 09:50:47 AM
Yeah I can't remember a Valpo player wearing a number in the 40s or 50s since I've been a fan.

Mileek is rocking #23 which always popular because of Jordan.

https://twitter.com/valpo_hoops/status/881884186298265605
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on July 03, 2017, 12:15:49 PM
Broekhoff was 45, was that before your time?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on July 03, 2017, 12:44:28 PM
Quote from: M on July 03, 2017, 12:15:49 PM
Broekhoff was 45, was that before your time?

Yep you're right. Forgot Rowdy wore 45.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: swiftmutiny on July 03, 2017, 02:16:15 PM
Kevin Van Wijk wore #55.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpopal on July 03, 2017, 06:12:13 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on July 03, 2017, 12:44:28 PM
Quote from: M on July 03, 2017, 12:15:49 PM
Broekhoff was 45, was that before your time?

Yep you're right. Forgot Rowdy wore 45.


Speaking of Rowdy and uniform numbers: we know nobody will wear #24 in the future, and I believe we can assume #25 will be added as a retired number. I'd also like to see #45 on that list as well.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on July 03, 2017, 07:44:03 PM
Quote from: valpopal on July 03, 2017, 06:12:13 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on July 03, 2017, 12:44:28 PM
Quote from: M on July 03, 2017, 12:15:49 PM
Broekhoff was 45, was that before your time?

Yep you're right. Forgot Rowdy wore 45.


Speaking of Rowdy and uniform numbers: we know nobody will wear #24 in the future, and I believe we can assume #25 will be added as a retired number. I'd also like to see #45 on that list as well.
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As much as we all love Rowdy and what he did for the program, his numbers just don't put him in the "retire his number" category.  He falls in an elite group that includes Grafs, Barton, Oppland and Dick Jones and probably a few others who I would categorize as "the top 10 whose number isn't retired"!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on July 03, 2017, 08:39:08 PM
Quote from: vu72 on July 03, 2017, 07:44:03 PM
Quote from: valpopal on July 03, 2017, 06:12:13 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on July 03, 2017, 12:44:28 PM
Quote from: M on July 03, 2017, 12:15:49 PM
Broekhoff was 45, was that before your time?

Yep you're right. Forgot Rowdy wore 45.


Speaking of Rowdy and uniform numbers: we know nobody will wear #24 in the future, and I believe we can assume #25 will be added as a retired number. I'd also like to see #45 on that list as well.
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As much as we all love Rowdy and what he did for the program, his numbers just don't put him in the "retire his number" category.  He falls in an elite group that includes Grafs, Barton, Oppland and Dick Jones and probably a few others who I would categorize as "the top 10 whose number isn't retired"!

HOF, yessir.  But retired numbers are harder to come by.  I'd agree that AP is in Bryce Drew territory in retiring the numbers. 
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2624 on July 04, 2017, 10:00:15 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on July 03, 2017, 09:50:47 AMYeah I can't remember a Valpo player wearing a number in the 40s or 50s since I've been a fan. Mileek is rocking #23 which always popular because of Jordan.

Not necessarily with today's generation.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on July 05, 2017, 08:56:57 AM
Kids still are very much aware of what number MJ wore.

Ryan was a great player, not sure I'm retiring that number though unless he inks an NBA contract.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on July 05, 2017, 09:23:20 AM
Quote from: M on July 05, 2017, 08:56:57 AM
Kids still are very much aware of what number MJ wore.

Ryan was a great player, not sure I'm retiring that number though unless he inks an NBA contract.

Agreed MJ is an icon. The Jordan brand is still extremely popular with kids and young people.

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on July 05, 2017, 09:29:56 AM
https://twitter.com/mid_madness/status/882602616580132865
https://www.midmajormadness.com/2017/7/5/15891124/top-mid-major-program-50-states-ranking-gonzaga-belmont-byu-vcu-western-kentucky

The Valley is represented well!

Indiana - Valparaiso

Illinois - Illinois State

Iowa - Northern Iowa
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: jtm on July 05, 2017, 09:31:32 AM
Perhaps about 75% Jordan and 25% LeBron?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on July 05, 2017, 10:36:31 AM
Our first Marten Linssen sighting State-side. He looks leaner then he looked in his highlight videos of him playing overseas.

https://twitter.com/TheReal_MG3/status/882287496486420485

Good to see the team bonding. Looks like some of the team spent the 4th of July at Coach Gore's house.

https://twitter.com/CoachZimba/status/882596045586407424
https://twitter.com/CoachLottich/status/882596464500908033
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2624 on July 05, 2017, 03:11:45 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on July 05, 2017, 09:23:20 AM
Quote from: M on July 05, 2017, 08:56:57 AMKids still are very much aware of what number MJ wore. Ryan was a great player, not sure I'm retiring that number though unless he inks an NBA contract.
Agreed MJ is an icon. The Jordan brand is still extremely popular with kids and young people.

It may be regional to a degree but, if I ask a bunch of young people who's #23 in basketball or ask why they are wearing #23, the response is not going to be Michael Jordan in most cases. Unless you are one of those young people or interact with them consistently, you don't have their perspective.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2624 on July 05, 2017, 03:15:01 PM
http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2017-18/17464/emanuel-dildy-joins-valpo-mens-basketball-coaching-staff/#.WV1IcOmQwZY

QuoteValparaiso University men's basketball head coach Matt Lottich announced today that Emanuel Dildy has joined the Crusader coaching staff as an assistant coach. A Chicago native, Dildy brings power conference and Missouri Valley Conference coaching experience to the Valpo bench as the Crusaders prepare for their inaugural season of MVC play.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on July 05, 2017, 03:17:27 PM
Quote from: VU2624 on July 05, 2017, 03:11:45 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on July 05, 2017, 09:23:20 AM
Quote from: M on July 05, 2017, 08:56:57 AMKids still are very much aware of what number MJ wore. Ryan was a great player, not sure I'm retiring that number though unless he inks an NBA contract.
Agreed MJ is an icon. The Jordan brand is still extremely popular with kids and young people.

It may be regional to a degree but, if I ask a bunch of young people who's #23 in basketball or ask why they are wearing #23, the response is not going to be Michael Jordan in most cases. Unless you are one of those young people or interact with them consistently, you don't have their perspective.

I'm still in my early 20's and I'm also a volunteer youth basketball coach. In my experience most young people know Michael Jordan wore #23, but I grew up and live in Chicagoland so it may be regional to a degree.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU75 on July 05, 2017, 04:39:04 PM
No mention of it but got to wonder if Emanuel Dildy is related to Tracy Dildy.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on July 05, 2017, 09:59:04 PM
I'm a middle school teacher and coach in Gary....23 is MJ to nearly all except the LeBron lovers.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: jloose128 on July 06, 2017, 02:48:50 AM
Quote from: VU75 on July 05, 2017, 04:39:04 PMNo mention of it but got to wonder if Emanuel Dildy is related to Tracy Dildy.



http://jg-tc.com/sports/dildy-cousins-ready-for-family-feud-game/article_059c88be-7fcc-11e2-809d-001a4bcf887a.html (http://jg-tc.com/sports/dildy-cousins-ready-for-family-feud-game/article_059c88be-7fcc-11e2-809d-001a4bcf887a.html)


Apparently they are cousins.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2624 on July 07, 2017, 03:03:35 PM
Quote from: M on July 05, 2017, 09:59:04 PMI'm a middle school teacher and coach in Gary....23 is MJ to nearly all except the LeBron lovers.

Wouldn't shock me in Gary. There's a fairly large population of people elsewhere which I am not. #23 belongs to a player other than Jordan currently. 
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on July 08, 2017, 02:49:55 PM
 :crazy:   :crazy:
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on July 11, 2017, 01:02:27 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/884622427216588800
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpo84 on July 12, 2017, 09:33:26 AM
Isn't Lebron #6 and Michael Jordan #45? ???
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on July 12, 2017, 10:31:01 PM
https://twitter.com/CoachRagsVU/status/885340080436641792
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: Valpo89 on July 14, 2017, 02:38:18 PM
May not be seeing Derek's dad at too many games this season. According to an article in the Indianapolis Star, the Smits home is for sale in Zionsville. Yours for only $2.7 million.
http://www.century21scheetz.com/Property/IN/46077/Zionsville/8346_E_550_S
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on July 14, 2017, 05:18:59 PM
Quote from: Valpo89 on July 14, 2017, 02:38:18 PM
May not be seeing Derek's dad at too many games this season. According to an article in the Indianapolis Star, the Smits home is for sale in Zionsville. Yours for only $2.7 million.
http://www.century21scheetz.com/Property/IN/46077/Zionsville/8346_E_550_S

Other than zvillehaze, Indyvalpo and myself has anyone else on here been to downtown Zionsville? $2.7 million seems cheap for a mansion in Zionsville. Are they moving back to Holland when Derrik graduates?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: Valpo89 on July 15, 2017, 01:18:16 PM
I was thinking the same thing TD. $2.7 for that house seems like a deal.
The Indy Star article said Rik is moving to Arizona with his girlfriend. He doesn't like all the rain we get in Indiana.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on July 17, 2017, 10:24:45 AM
Jay Sorolla is playing Slovenia in the FIBA U20 Tournament. Spain won 91-59

Didn't have a great game. Didn't have a bad game. Started the game, didn't start the 2nd half. The mid-range jumper didn't look great but played solid Defense. It was messy as can be game. Sorolla was probably the best passer on the team.

Minutes Play: 19:28
Pts: 3
FG: 1/5
REB: 5
AST: 2
TO: 0
BLK: 0

Jay played:
9:30 - 16:00
29:00 - 38:20
1:11:09 - 1:31:27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vReCxRmoj8k

Spain beat Italy 83-72
Minutes Play: 15:46
Pts: 0
FG: 0/1
REB: 1
AST: 0
TO: 3
BLK: 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIwVrUm9ZAE

Spain takes on Serbia today at 1:15 CT if you want to stream it live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcuGzKAE72A
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: zvillehaze on July 17, 2017, 10:39:16 AM
Quote from: Valpo89 on July 14, 2017, 02:38:18 PM
May not be seeing Derek's dad at too many games this season. According to an article in the Indianapolis Star, the Smits home is for sale in Zionsville. Yours for only $2.7 million.
http://www.century21scheetz.com/Property/IN/46077/Zionsville/8346_E_550_S

Rik moved prior to last season.  Derrik's cousin, who lives with Rik, played HS basketball in Arizona last year.

http://www.govandals.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4356 (http://www.govandals.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4356)
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bigmosmithfan1 on July 17, 2017, 02:43:17 PM
Given the beating that Rik's body took during his playing days (back when NBA defenders were allowed to use WWE-style moves, basically) and the number of injuries he battled throughout his long career, I can't imagine that Midwest winters are the best thing for living a pain-free lifestyle.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on July 18, 2017, 09:45:14 AM
Looks like they had the Missouri Valley Conference Orientation this morning or yesterday.

https://twitter.com/MVCsports/status/887318628533764096
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on July 18, 2017, 08:57:29 PM
https://twitter.com/PostTribSports/status/887457431604928514

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-missouri-valley-conference-st-0719-20170718-story.html

The commish: Missouri Valley's Doug Elgin credits Valpo for wooing conference
By: Mike Hutton
Date: July 18, 2017
Post-Tribune

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on July 19, 2017, 10:19:00 AM
Here is Paul's coverage.

http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/valley-commissioner-holds-orientation-for-valparaiso-coaches-and-administrators/article_eb1fbb2c-cb55-5059-aaaa-625ec520b606.html

This is a quote in the very last paragraph from MLB that I find quite interesting:

"We have also started the planning to put a facility up next to (the Athletics-Recreation Center), phase one of a (recreational) facility that would then get activity out of (the ARC) and would make it more of a dedicated intercollegiate athletic facility as opposed to a combined space," LaBarbera said. "Those are the plans that we have talked about."

That type of facility doesn't appear on the 30-year Plan illustrations --- unless it is an addition to the north side extending toward Brown Field that does appear on the illustrations.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on July 19, 2017, 11:43:12 AM
"Getting activity out of the ARC" is no small task.  Think of all the intramural volleyball, basketball and who knows what else takes place there now.  I would think the "next to" is maybe a stretch as I would think he is referring to the new Rec Center.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: NativeCheesehead on July 19, 2017, 12:09:17 PM
"We've also started the planning...."

That means at least 5-7 years until we see a shovel.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: crusadermoe on July 19, 2017, 12:34:49 PM
I think LaBarbera may like Valpo enough to stay.  But he will be attracting offers from bigger higher-paying schools after his successes in moving up twice.

But the two big caveats are his fund-raising and the facilities not achieved. One can argue well that those were outside his control.  My guess is he might be targeted for an operational AVP type of position at a big budget power five where a big name does the fund-raising and delegates operational goals.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on July 19, 2017, 01:05:36 PM
Quote from: crusadermoe on July 19, 2017, 12:34:49 PM
I think LaBarbera may like Valpo enough to stay.  But he will be attracting offers from bigger higher-paying schools after his successes in moving up twice.

But the two big caveats are his fund-raising and the facilities not achieved. One can argue well that those were outside his control.  My guess is he might be targeted for an operational AVP type of position at a big budget power five where a big name does the fund-raising and delegates operational goals.

If LaBarbera stays and if the program continues to trend upwards (tourney wins) in this transition and he's able to figure out a way to successfully renovate the ARC (I have no doubt he could but the greater challenge is finding the donors & getting support/backing from the President/Board) then he honestly deserves the Arena named after him or another building named after him. He's already done a tremendous job. I hope he never leaves us. Mark has also done a tremendous job rebuilding the football program. VU Football under Coach Cecchini is no longer a punch line and the Football Alumni have been really instrumental in this turnaround. The record may not show it yet but you can tell the program has come a long way. Side Note: Does anyone think Valpo Football will ever go Division I FCS in the MVC? I don't see it happening anytime soon, but just curious what others think. The Football budget would need to go through the roof and I don't want anything to take away from Valpo Basketball. No matter what Basketball will always be the most important Valpo Sport.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: Valpo89 on July 19, 2017, 01:14:30 PM
Come on 2014. Football is never going above any level deemed necessary to stay D-1 in basketball and all the other sports. It's right where they want it.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on July 19, 2017, 02:25:40 PM
Quote from: Valpo89 on July 19, 2017, 01:14:30 PM
Come on 2014. Football is never going above any level deemed necessary to stay D-1 in basketball and all the other sports. It's right where they want it.

Good point. Personally I think it's ridiculous that the NCAA makes you Schools have a football team to remain D1. Football for many schools is just a money pit and they never get their return on investment. I'd be lying if I said I never thought about going FCS and then a future MAC level FBS invite. I know its not financially realistic for a private school our size and we'd need to come a very long way from where we are now to consider going FCS.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on July 19, 2017, 02:40:31 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on July 19, 2017, 02:25:40 PM
Quote from: Valpo89 on July 19, 2017, 01:14:30 PM
Come on 2014. Football is never going above any level deemed necessary to stay D-1 in basketball and all the other sports. It's right where they want it.

Good point. Personally I think it's ridiculous that the NCAA makes you Schools have a football team to remain D1. Football for many schools is just a money pit and they never get their return on investment. I'd be lying if I said I never thought about going FCS and then a future MAC level FBS invite. I know its not financially realistic for a private school our size and we'd need to come a very long way from where we are now to consider going FCS.

The NCAA does not require a school to have a football team to remain D1.  Think schools like Bradley as an example.  No football of any kind and yet D1.  What they do say is of you want to play football and want to be D1 you have to play football at D1 which includes non-scholarship D1.  The distinction really revolved around D1 basketball where if you want to play D1 basketball then all sports must be D1.  Schools like Johns Hopkins and Minnesota Duluth play D1 in sports like Hockey and LaCrosse and can do so without bringing others sports to that level unless they want to play basketball at D1.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2624 on July 19, 2017, 04:49:14 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on July 19, 2017, 10:19:00 AMHere is Paul's coverage. http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/valley-commissioner-holds-orientation-for-valparaiso-coaches-and-administrators/article_eb1fbb2c-cb55-5059-aaaa-625ec520b606.html This is a quote in the very last paragraph from MLB that I find quite interesting: "We have also started the planning to put a facility up next to (the Athletics-Recreation Center), phase one of a (recreational) facility that would then get activity out of (the ARC) and would make it more of a dedicated intercollegiate athletic facility as opposed to a combined space," LaBarbera said. "Those are the plans that we have talked about." That type of facility doesn't appear on the 30-year Plan illustrations --- unless it is an addition to the north side extending toward Brown Field that does appear on the illustrations.

He has to be referring to the long planned rec center which isn't next to the ARC but near enough I guess.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: jsher3141 on July 21, 2017, 10:32:39 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on July 19, 2017, 10:19:00 AM
Here is Paul's coverage.

http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/valley-commissioner-holds-orientation-for-valparaiso-coaches-and-administrators/article_eb1fbb2c-cb55-5059-aaaa-625ec520b606.html

This is a quote in the very last paragraph from MLB that I find quite interesting:

"We have also started the planning to put a facility up next to (the Athletics-Recreation Center), phase one of a (recreational) facility that would then get activity out of (the ARC) and would make it more of a dedicated intercollegiate athletic facility as opposed to a combined space," LaBarbera said. "Those are the plans that we have talked about."

That type of facility doesn't appear on the 30-year Plan illustrations --- unless it is an addition to the north side extending toward Brown Field that does appear on the illustrations.

I would also assume he is referring to the planned rec center that is supposed to go in on the old hospital property.  If I recall correctly, I believe he stated that he has plans for the building ready to go sitting in his office during his Union Street Hoops interview...

I could see them wanting to get all the extra activities out of the ARC as priority #1, then move on to doing substantial upgrades to the ARC. Makes it alot easier to do construction if you have somewhere else to put everyone... Sounds like we're on the right path. Just waiting on that $$$.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on July 26, 2017, 10:47:16 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/890416121014358018
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/890416442390319105
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/890416650184536065
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/890417175856599045
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on July 28, 2017, 08:37:06 PM
https://twitter.com/coachgore/status/891110308697088000
https://twitter.com/dbol986/status/891005346793349120
https://twitter.com/metrifit/status/891003239516295168
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: talksalot on July 28, 2017, 09:44:49 PM
I spent about an hour in the ARC this afternoon watching the 9-to-14-year-olds at the basketball camp; with all of our managers and players helping the players.   Most important thing learned today:  Bakari's last name is pronounced: EEvelyn.  They all looked like they were having fun.  OH, the only officially scheduled home game on the calendar is 4-months from today...
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on July 31, 2017, 08:02:42 PM
Markus flying high with a break away dunk in scrimmage the other day.
https://twitter.com/TheReal_MG3/status/891748634588590080
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on July 31, 2017, 09:30:14 PM
The more I watch of Golder or hear about him the more excited I get to see him take the court this fall. I think he's going to be a lot of fun to watch.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on August 02, 2017, 11:35:56 AM
It's great seeing former players come back to campus and catching up with the coaches and team. Would love to see the scrimmages of alumni coming back and playing with the team.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BXQ4WjaDH0Y/?taken-by=rbroekhoff45
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXRHqxSjfgR/?taken-by=rbroekhoff45
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXRuaAUj69N/?taken-by=rbroekhoff45

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/892524299600498688
https://twitter.com/coachgore/status/892766866376204288
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on August 03, 2017, 08:54:59 AM
Mid-Madness is having a Mid-Major Mascot Tournament. Valpo is a 12 seed vs the 5 seed Bradley. If you'd like to vote can vote here:
https://www.midmajormadness.com/2017/8/3/16086418/vote-mid-major-madness-mascot-melee-first-round-bracket-big-red-handsome-dan

https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/893106721178169346
https://twitter.com/mid_madness/status/893103065162821632
https://twitter.com/mid_madness/status/893103225427111938
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on August 03, 2017, 09:35:37 PM
Looks like Ryan Fazekas may be dealing with a arm injury of some sort right now. Picture from his instagram shows his left arm in a sling. Never good to see guys injured but on the bright side this will be his red-shirt year. Still you'd like him to build as much chemistry as possible on the court and you'd like him to be out there in those summer scrimmages. Just hope he gets healthy quick and has a full recovery.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BV5hIPzlbKn/?taken-by=ryan_fazekas
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on August 04, 2017, 03:41:40 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 03, 2017, 09:35:37 PM
Looks like Ryan Fazekas may be dealing with a arm injury of some sort right now. Picture from his instagram shows his left arm in a sling. Never good to see guys injured but on the bright side this will be his red-shirt year. Still you'd like him to build as much chemistry as possible on the court and you'd like him to be out there in those summer scrimmages. Just hope he gets healthy quick and has a full recovery.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BV5hIPzlbKn/?taken-by=ryan_fazekas

Has he been hanging around with the football team's quarterbacks?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on August 04, 2017, 03:34:36 PM
Oakland & UWM fans actually trying to talk trash and saying Valpo couldn't put together a competitive Alumni TBT Team  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

They feel more embolden now that we've left the conference.

https://twitter.com/ImJustEB5/status/893299786740322304
https://twitter.com/PantherU/status/893556636085780481
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/893557888496660481
https://twitter.com/UWM_Barry/status/893564329424863232
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/893564978841534464
https://twitter.com/UWM_Barry/status/893566203884699649
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/893567925092798466
https://twitter.com/UWM_Barry/status/893568365540855808
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/893569763548549120
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/893569861594624000
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/893568306891943936
https://twitter.com/UWM_Barry/status/893568962574917634
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/893569222147702789
https://twitter.com/GrizzTalkOU/status/893561655732383744
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/893563993763307521
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on August 04, 2017, 03:58:09 PM
Before talking trash, maybe that Milwaukee fan should give his allegiance to a program whose athletic department is on the same page as to which coach they're hiring. And maybe try doing something of note since the Pearl era. Jeter was okay  but  What's that program done the past five years other than be a dumpster fire clown show and a major drain on the league? Their craptacular program(among others) cost us an at-large in 15-16. Our alums would whip UWM's outfit's behind and everyone knows it. Show me ONE PLAYER Milwaukee hasEVER HAD that can even hold a candle to Broekhoff or Peters or Vashil Or Wood Or Johnson. I could go on. To think that Milwaukee  was once a program and fanbase I respected. But with every tweet and ignorant hot take an HL fan spouts off, I become increasingly glad that we are where we are.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on August 04, 2017, 04:27:38 PM
Of course to Milwaukee and fans of many other HL Teams "Talking trash" has a different meaning than it does for us: To us it's taking shots at other teams; to them, it's discussing news about their team and its prospects for success in the upcoming year.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on August 04, 2017, 08:26:19 PM
Haha love it! Coach Rags chiming in!

Honestly believe a Valpo Alumni Team would do quite well and be competitive if the guys could get together.

https://twitter.com/CoachRagsVU/status/893641114468667392
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: EddieCabot on August 04, 2017, 08:34:49 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on August 04, 2017, 03:58:09 PM
Before talking trash, maybe that Milwaukee fan should give his allegiance to a program whose athletic department is on the same page as to which coach they're hiring. And maybe try doing something of note since the Pearl era. Jeter was okay  but  What's that program done the past five years other than be a dumpster fire clown show and a major drain on the league? Their craptacular program(among others) cost us an at-large in 15-16. Our alums would whip UWM's outfit's behind and everyone knows it. Show me ONE PLAYER Milwaukee hasEVER HAD that can even hold a candle to Broekhoff or Peters or Vashil Or Wood Or Johnson. I could go on. To think that Milwaukee  was once a program and fanbase I respected. But with every tweet and ignorant hot take an HL fan spouts off, I become increasingly glad that we are where we are.

+1  That captacular program not only cost Valpo a bid in 15-16, but also in 16-17.  They haven't won an NCAA tourney game in like 11 years, but still hang onto that like it was just a few years ago.  Glad to be away from those losers.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on August 04, 2017, 09:09:07 PM
I don't hold 16-17 against anyone. With all the injuries and issues Valpo faced that year (Peters injury Adekoya suspension Hammink was sick or banged up and I think there's one or two more I'm forgetting) that MASH unit wasn't going anywhere.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpotx on August 05, 2017, 12:46:30 AM
EddieCabot was making a reference to us not winning an NCAA game since 1998.  His entire posting history is a somewhat veiled attempt at mocking us ;)
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valporun on August 05, 2017, 08:13:05 AM
Eddie has always been stirring the pot around here.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: NativeCheesehead on August 05, 2017, 08:57:41 AM
I'm confused. I don't seem to know who this Mee Lee Wau Kay is, other than an Algonquin word for "The Good Land" (Thanks, Alice Cooper!) They don't appear to be on our upcoming schedule, and the Urban Dictionary only shows a gif of a flaming dumpster when I search for them. 
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: justducky on August 05, 2017, 02:01:54 PM
Quote from: valpotx on August 05, 2017, 12:46:30 AMEddieCabot was making a reference to us not winning an NCAA game since 1998.  His entire posting history is a somewhat veiled attempt at mocking us
Oh!    :popcorn:   Really?  :popcorn:
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on August 08, 2017, 01:04:38 PM
https://twitter.com/mid_madness/status/894979661452767232
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on August 10, 2017, 08:50:45 AM
Mid-Madness is having a Mid-Major Mascot Tournament. Valpo won the 1st round vs Bradley and made it to the 2nd round. Valpo is a 12 seed vs the 4 seed Dayton. If you'd like to vote can vote here:
https://www.midmajormadness.com/2017/8/9/16118198/mid-major-madness-mascot-melee-bracket-second-round-vote
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeuaBw_sVv9mHyD7Vi_h2TDU7PNyIMW6mwpnY1e-saXiXviIQ/viewform

https://twitter.com/mid_madness/status/895276070303404032
https://twitter.com/mid_madness/status/895634564579811329
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on August 15, 2017, 03:14:15 PM
https://twitter.com/BettsSportsBeat/status/897551376896610304
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on August 15, 2017, 03:46:23 PM
Is the MVC Tourney Format going to change?

There is no chance is moving, imo. They are announcing it from the Scott Trade Center.

Maybe they'll be including the Women's Tournament there at the same location on the same weekend? Hopefully they give the teams more then 20 minutes practice/shoot around the court...

https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/897557946103730176
https://twitter.com/fatherharry1/status/897564157284896768
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: underdawg on August 15, 2017, 05:14:05 PM
 :lol: Why would the Blues guy be there--to say his arena's kicking the tournament out of town :lol:--probably signed a new long term agreement
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on August 15, 2017, 07:06:09 PM
My guess is its a contract extension with the Scottrade Center.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on August 16, 2017, 02:29:36 PM
I know Micah had a tough freshman year but I'm looking forward to seeing him next season. I know some are down on him but I'm taking the "wait & see" approach with Micah. I try to never get too down on Freshman, especially at the PG position. You can see the tools are there but I'm hoping the game comes to him next season. It will be a big year for him. He may not start with Bakari in front of him but he will probably get quite a few minutes early on and will still be leaned on throughout as the back-up PG.

Micah may never be the greatest defender because of his slender frame but he has quick hands and has some solid length for a guy who is 6'2". A capable defender in a team defense. His offense is where the upside is, imo. I know it didn't show in games last year but he is a good 3pt shooter and he's capable of taking it to the rim. It will be interesting to see his development from his freshman year to his sophomore. I don't have sky high expectations but I'm hoping gains that confidence back.

https://twitter.com/barrybradford3/status/897635675176144896
https://twitter.com/barrybradford3/status/894695643482124288
https://twitter.com/barrybradford3/status/881248313458208768
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on August 16, 2017, 02:35:10 PM
Hopefully he will provide the needed backup point guard slot (shared with Max) with Lexus moving on.  Although he started some games last year I think it likely that he will be the backup for the remainder of his career as Bakari and Micah have the same remaining eligibility.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on August 17, 2017, 12:00:17 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 15, 2017, 07:06:09 PM
My guess is its a contract extension with the Scottrade Center.

The Blues were left high and dry by the Chicago Wolves after last season (the Wolves signed with the new Vegas Golden Knights of the NHL)and left the Blues with the dreaded no minor league affiliate position that was created when Vegas was brought into the NHL without a minor league addition. I'm not sure what happened in the American Hockey League as they couldn't add a suitable franchise in time. The Blues have talked about funding their own AHL minor league affiliate right in the Scottrade Center. There are AHL teams in Des Moines, Rosemont, IL, Milwaukee, Cleveland and Rockford so finding close rivals is not a problem. What this would do is put a scheduling strain on the Scottrade Center itself for the 2018-19 season. I'm guessing this might be a move to help the Blues schedule and finance their new AHL affiliate. The MVC might get some promotional deals with the new AHL affiliate in St Louis.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/hockey/professional/blues-will-lack-primary-minor-league-team-next-season/article_2c205d44-8dfa-5e29-b0bb-a2198e784c56.html

https://bleedinblue.com/2017/07/07/st-louis-blues-will-own-ahl-affiliate-2018-19/

This is all purely a guess but I heard the rumors from friends and relatives in St Louis.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on August 17, 2017, 12:08:32 PM
I would love for the RA's and the administration to implement this into Valpo's Freshman early move-in Orientation.

At UNI they bring the entire freshman class to the Arena to learn the Fight Song and basically get them familiar to the Sports culture & get them to come down to the arena (keep in mind they are a school of 12,000 undergrad). I would love for Valpo to do something like this. Would be great for Valpo Athletics & building some early School Spirit.
https://twitter.com/CoachJake_UNI/status/898213496999075840
https://twitter.com/CoachJake_UNI/status/898215047754727426
https://twitter.com/CoachJake_UNI/status/898216019851964416


Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on August 17, 2017, 12:23:26 PM
That's cool.

What do we do that favorably compares to this in any way?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on August 17, 2017, 12:38:27 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 17, 2017, 12:23:26 PM
That's cool.
What do we do that favorably compares to this in any way?

Agreed. Valpo has early freshman move in where they address the freshman at the chapel all together but at least while I was at school they made no mention of athletics and did nothing like this.

This would actually be pretty easy to do. Bring the entire freshman class down to the ARC and teach them the fight song and let them meet the Basketball & Football team and have the coaches/players make a short speech. Bring the Cheer Squad, Crusaderettes & Pep Band (maybe fund the Pep Band better actually get them a instructor...). I think its very doable if the AD/RAs and whoever is running the Freshman Orientation on the same page.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: covufan on August 17, 2017, 12:39:24 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 17, 2017, 12:08:32 PMI would love for the RA's and the administration to implement this into Valpo's Freshman early move-in Orientation.At UNI they bring the entire freshman class to the Arena to learn the Fight Song and basically get them familiar to the Sports culture & get them to come down to the arena (keep in mind they are a school of 12,000 undergrad). I would love for Valpo to do something like this. Would be great for Valpo Athletics & building some early School Spirit.

Sounds like a good idea!  I might add the alma mater song (don't know what it is, only heard it at graduation?), and have teams sing the alma mater (after a win) to the students (and parents) that came to cheer.

Here they are:

http://www.valpo.edu/student/saa/assets/docs/Learn%20the%20Valpo%20Fight%20Song.php

http://www.valpo.edu/student/saa/assets/docs/Learn%20the%20Valpo%20Alma%20Mater.php
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu84v2 on August 17, 2017, 02:27:41 PM
Overall, this is a great idea! It could work so well towards generating identity with the university and interest and ties to the athletic programs.

One comment: like many alma maters, the alma mater at Valparaiso is akin to a funeral dirge. Many graduates remember the "to pay the debt we owe" part. I would avoid teaching them the alma mater.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: crusader05 on August 17, 2017, 03:19:24 PM
I know they do a Pep Rally and BBQ where they meet all the fall teams during their welcome orientation but am unsure if they learn the song

http://www.valpo.edu/admission/files/2017/06/2017-welcome_week_brochure_general.pdf
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on August 17, 2017, 03:34:22 PM
My main question is:  Is it a "meet and greet and eat" or is it a VU Athletics orientation/indoctrination with a full agenda of items?   Like ....  a brief history of our programs, our rich traditions, the significance of being an MVC member, and football in the PFL along with basic cheers and the fight song (at the end of every home football game the team comes over to the sidelines and does the Valpo fight song at a crazy pace with lots of clapping and it would be good to extend that to the basketball court as well).... followed by meet/greet/eat.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpo84 on August 17, 2017, 04:02:50 PM
Late to the party but:

As to #TBT, I think a Valpo alum or two has already played pretty well in #TBT http://www.news-sentinel.com/sports/former_mad_ants_reunite_for_the_basketball_tournament_20170712&profile=-1 (http://www.news-sentinel.com/sports/former_mad_ants_reunite_for_the_basketball_tournament_20170712&profile=-1) and http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2539280-my-experience-coaching-hungry-hoopers-with-1-million-the-line (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2539280-my-experience-coaching-hungry-hoopers-with-1-million-the-line)
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on August 25, 2017, 01:19:48 PM
I'm 100% with this guy!
https://twitter.com/BFQuinn/status/901072832293203968
https://twitter.com/BFQuinn/status/901072832293203968
https://twitter.com/JeffEisenberg/status/901074969672548352
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/901088029019918336

I think its Butler
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/901108252351635457
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/901125127697465344
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on August 25, 2017, 03:47:49 PM
The tweet doesn't specify, but presumably we're talking home-and-home - not 2-for-1 or all away games. That said, my top 2 choices would be Butler with Norte Dame a very close second. Purdue wouldn't even be on my radar.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: covufan on August 25, 2017, 05:33:56 PM
Quote from: wh on August 25, 2017, 03:47:49 PM
The tweet doesn't specify, but presumably we're talking home-and-home - not 2-for-1 or all away games. That said, my top 2 choices would be Butler with Norte Dame a very close second. Purdue wouldn't even be on my radar.
ND was on my list as well.  From Purdue and Notre Dame I'd take a once every 3 or 4 years at VU or Chicago game.  Butler would have to be home and away. 
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUSWIM08-12 on August 27, 2017, 10:42:09 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 17, 2017, 03:34:22 PMMy main question is:  Is it a "meet and greet and eat" or is it a VU Athletics orientation/indoctrination with a full agenda of items?   Like ....  a brief history of our programs, our rich traditions, the significance of being an MVC member, and football in the PFL along with basic cheers and the fight song (at the end of every home football game the team comes over to the sidelines and does the Valpo fight song at a crazy pace with lots of clapping and it would be good to extend that to the basketball court as well).... followed by meet/greet/eat.

The last year I was apart of it was in 2012 and it was maybe 60-75 minutes long, The freshman got to meet the rest of the team. MLB, Heckler, and one other person spoke about the school. That was it. Food was always good!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu84v2 on August 27, 2017, 01:24:45 PM
Choices for one game per year, as part of a 2-for-1 deal:
1. Butler (I am probably in the minority, but this is a great potential rivalry and we need to accept that they have moved far ahead of Valpo. A 2-for-1 is a good deal, since it continues a great rivalry that benefits Valpo)
2. Notre Dame
3. Purdue
4. Marquette
5. Indiana
6. Northwestern

1-for-1 deals: Any top four team from the Atlantic 10, MWC, West Coast Conference and American Athletic (and I would gladly take a 2-for-1 with a team like Wichita State or Gonzaga).

I am not sure why a survey asking this question would include UWM or Oakland.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on August 27, 2017, 02:49:05 PM
Quote from: vu84v2 on August 27, 2017, 01:24:45 PM
Choices for one game per year, as part of a 2-for-1 deal:
1. Butler (I am probably in the minority, but this is a great potential rivalry and we need to accept that they have moved far ahead of Valpo. A 2-for-1 is a good deal, since it continues a great rivalry that benefits Valpo)
2. Notre Dame
3. Purdue
4. Marquette
5. Indiana
6. Northwestern

1-for-1 deals: Any top four team from the Atlantic 10, MWC, West Coast Conference and American Athletic (and I would gladly take a 2-for-1 with a team like Wichita State or Gonzaga).

I am not sure why a survey asking this question would include UWM or Oakland.

I would also accept a 2-for-1 with Butler, but I don't think that offer is on the table unfortunately... I think part of the reason has to do with Butler not wanting to "legitimize" Valpo Basketball. If Valpo a former In-State rival who plays in a less high profile Conference beat them then it would build up more buzz & hype for Valpo, which would be a net-negative for Butler Basketball. This is just my theory on it all. Yes Butler schedule Indiana State for H-&-H but Indiana State has not been the same caliber of program/team Valpo, in my opinion.

We all know the Valpo Teams the last 5 years since Butler left Horizon League could legitimately give Butler a run for their $ & have a chance beat them. In fact in Butler's last year in the Conference Valpo went 3-0 against Butler! I'd also put $ on the 15'-16' Valpo Team over the 15'-16' Butler Team that year. You can argue Valpo has had the best player between the two teams since Shelvin Mack graduated. Butler's staff knew Peters was a future NBA player so they saw the risk.

The Valpo Coaching staff has a relationship with the LaVall Jordan & the new Butler Coaching staff because LaVall coached at Milwaukee last year & Coach Gore even goes further back with LaVall in his time as a Butler Assistant Coach.


I agree with vu84v2 about taking a 2-for-1 with any of those teams, but those 2-for-1 deals just don't happen as much anymore because Power Conference/Big East schools just buy home games instead of giving return games Example: Purdue & Northwestern next season... those teams would rather make the home game revenue and limit the risk by not have to play in a tougher environment & good opponents arena. Maybe the new "quality win" definition from the NCAA Committee will change that a little but the Committee actually NEEDS to enforce it.

I'd love for a 2-for-1 with Gonzaga &/or WSU but that won't happen. Gonzaga doesn't operate like a mid-major. They pay for home games & almost never give return games unless its a really good Power Conference opponent. Wichita State is unlikely because we're the school that is replacing them in the MVC. Just seems unlikely WSU would agree to that in the near future.

I wouldn't mind a home-&-Home with Oakland or Milwaukee eventually as long as there were strong teams. May not happen anytime soon because this Horizon League divorce seems to have some hurt feeling from the Horizon's side. Everyone has a boss & I'm not sure certain Horizon League administrations want to "help" (not sure many HL teams could help from a RPI/SOS standpoint) or play us. I could see Milwaukee happening at some put sooner rather then later because Valpo has a large & active alumni base up in the Milwaukee/Wisconsin area. I could actually see a series with UWM being a 2-&-2 series.

Point is that scheduling is not easy and scheduling has become much tougher the last 7-10 years with Power Conference Teams refusing to actually play TRUE away games in the Non-Conference schedule. Something needs to give with the Power Conference Scheduling Cartel because its hurting the sport of college basketball as a whole.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: Pgmado on August 27, 2017, 03:52:43 PM
Quote from: vu84v2 on August 27, 2017, 01:24:45 PM
Choices for one game per year, as part of a 2-for-1 deal:
1. Butler (I am probably in the minority, but this is a great potential rivalry and we need to accept that they have moved far ahead of Valpo. A 2-for-1 is a good deal, since it continues a great rivalry that benefits Valpo)
2. Notre Dame
3. Purdue
4. Marquette
5. Indiana
6. Northwestern

1-for-1 deals: Any top four team from the Atlantic 10, MWC, West Coast Conference and American Athletic (and I would gladly take a 2-for-1 with a team like Wichita State or Gonzaga).

I am not sure why a survey asking this question would include UWM or Oakland.

I included...

Milwaukee because it's one of the largest alumni bases for Valparaiso. Moving out of the Horizon League takes a game out of that market and could potentially hurt fundraising in Wisconsin.

Oakland because for better or worse, Oakland is Valparaiso's biggest rival in the post-Sweet Sixteen Era. The programs battled each other in the Mid-Con, then competitive non-conference games and once again in the Horizon League. It's a shame that this game won't be on the schedule this season. Great measuring stick for both teams.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on August 27, 2017, 04:08:57 PM
Maybe its just me but I always viewed Butler as a bigger & more intriguing rivalry to the Valpo fanbase.

Oakland is a certainly a rival & those games were the most fun to attend in the post-Butler Horizon League other then maybe the very brief Detroit-Mercy games during the Ray McCallum Jr. era when UDM had a pulse & their students were completely misbehaved vandalizing Valparaiso. But that rivalry went no where because Valpo pretty much dominated them after that.

Oakland has always been fun because Kampe kind of played on the rivalry a little even though they've always felt like the little brother to Valpo following us around and occasionally having some good team. They definitely got the best of Valpo last year. I would have loved to see Valpo play them at full strength with Jubril & everyone healthy.

It could just be me but it feels like the Valpo vs Oakland games meant more to the the OU fanbase then it did to the Valpo fanbase. The rivalry did pick up a bit the last few years when Kampe brought in some the trouble but very talented Red-shirt transfers and they OU stepped up its play. My view point could be because when I was a student I got to see the Butler at its peak when I was a student. Those Valpo vs Butler game were always so much fun and there was an added element of buzz and meaning to them.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bigmosmithfan1 on August 27, 2017, 09:45:49 PM
I think the odds of us scheduling any team from a league that is currently suing us (that don't already have signed contracts) are slim and none.

Returning ND to an annual game, as it was for a good fifty years, would be #1 on my list on an ongoing 2-for-1 basis.

Also, for the life of me, I don't know how we've never been able to get Dayton on the schedule in the modern era (not even as a one-off guarantee game roadie at UD Arena). We've been in the same football league for 20 years!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: IrishDawg on August 28, 2017, 08:58:49 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 27, 2017, 02:49:05 PM
I would also accept a 2-for-1 with Butler, but I don't think that offer is on the table unfortunately... I think part of the reason has to do with Butler not wanting to "legitimize" Valpo Basketball. If Valpo a former In-State rival who plays in a less high profile Conference beat them then it would build up more buzz & hype for Valpo, which would be a net-negative for Butler Basketball. This is just my theory on it all. Yes Butler schedule Indiana State for H-&-H but Indiana State has not been the same caliber of program/team Valpo, in my opinion.

We all know the Valpo Teams the last 5 years since Butler left Horizon League could legitimately give Butler a run for their $ & have a chance beat them. In fact in Butler's last year in the Conference Valpo went 3-0 against Butler! I'd also put $ on the 15'-16' Valpo Team over the 15'-16' Butler Team that year. You can argue Valpo has had the best player between the two teams since Shelvin Mack graduated. Butler's staff knew Peters was a future NBA player so they saw the risk.

The Valpo Coaching staff has a relationship with the LaVall Jordan & the new Butler Coaching staff because LaVall coached at Milwaukee last year & Coach Gore even goes further back with LaVall in his time as a Butler Assistant Coach.

I liken the Butler-Valpo rivalry probably in a similar manner to how Xavier looked at Butler for many years after they left the MCC for the A-10.  For Butler, prior to getting Xavier on the schedule, they had to legitimize themselves by making the tournament 6 of the previous 10 years, with 2 Sweet 16s and 6 tournament wins and even then they waited until Butler had a team full of underclassmen to schedule games against them starting in 2008-09.  That was to get a home and home.  I'd actually think a 2 for 1 would be something that Butler's coaching staff would listen to.  Butler had tried to go to that model with Evansville and Ball State when those series ended in 2014, but neither of those schools were willing to bite.

I'm not in Butler's coaching staffs heads, but aside from a rivalry game that is more intense on Valpo's side than Butler's (and Butler has these rivalries too against Xavier and IU), how does a win against Valpo help Butler?  I know that Valpo is capable of winning the game, but in order for there to be interest in a game that Butler could lose, there has to be something that can be gained, whether it be on a tourney resume, recruiting or otherwise.  Valpo's two 1st round exits and single tournament appearance when I agree that they've had the most individually talented player during this time on either side in a conference that has been steadily sliding backward since Butler left isn't a strong case.  Especially when Butler can get tournament team wins against the Vermonts and Bucknells (which were similar in kenpom ratings to the last 2 Valpo tourney teams) of the world without having to leave Hinkle.  That's the challenge and the case that Valpo's coaching staff will have to make in order to schedule games (especially home and homes) with Butler in the future.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on August 29, 2017, 02:30:14 PM
https://twitter.com/CoachRagsVU/status/902608620625514496
https://twitter.com/CoachSampsonUH/status/902277271800688644
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: RS on August 30, 2017, 12:23:56 PM
Not sure if this was mentioned before but looking at the roster for this year it shows that VU has a redshirt transfer from Valpo HS. Steven Helms is listed as a sophomore and a transfer from Carroll College in Montana where he was coached by Carson Cunningham. Averaged 6+ points a game as a freshman and started 4 games for #1 ranked NAIA divsion 1. Lost in quarterfinals of national championship. Remember him as a decent bball player at the HS. Any comments or additional info?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on August 30, 2017, 12:40:38 PM
I have never seen Steve play but I'm sure many on this board have. Anyone have a scouting report or can anyone share what his game is like?

Status: Walk-on
Year: 2016 (SO)
Position: PG
Height: 6-2
Weight: 180
Hometown:Valparaiso, IN
High School:Valparaiso High School
Previous College: Carroll College (NAIA)

http://www.hudl.com/profile/3493755/steve-helm

https://twitter.com/helenaironline/status/842520613491281920
http://406mtsports.com/college/frontier-conference/carroll-college/carroll-s-helm-is-nation-s-best-at-the-line/article_718f939e-25e0-5daf-ac24-8d9f16c4912d.html?utm_content=bufferc0602&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Carroll's Helm is nation's best at the line
ERIK C. ANDERSON erik.anderson@helenair.com Mar 16, 2017

.........

In the NBA, only three players retired have career free throw percentages of 90 percent.

While Helm's not NBA Hall of Famer Rick Barry, who galvanized with his famous "granny style" approach to breaking the sacred 90 percent barrier, he's instead refined an Indiana technique that has been taught for many years.

.........

In the NBA, only three players retired have career free throw percentages of 90 percent.

While Helm's not NBA Hall of Famer Rick Barry, who galvanized with his famous "granny style" approach to breaking the sacred 90 percent barrier, he's instead refined an Indiana technique that has been taught for many years.

..........

Looks like he's a pretty good athlete.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IytOd1JwIjg
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on August 30, 2017, 02:00:05 PM
Wow!  Presumably a red-shirt with the transfer up??  Same height as Micah but 25# heavier!  But then again, Tevonn and Max have him by 55# :o
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on August 30, 2017, 06:18:40 PM
Wow I guess he won't actually be eligible to play till 2020-2021  :o because he has to red-shirt this upcoming season and then serve his mormon mission. He'll definitely be fully physically mature by the time he he sees the court for VU. Either way its nice to see a local Valparaiso kid committing to play for his hometown University!

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/903007209637990400
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/903007892189712390
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/903008152500801537
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/903008926815457280
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on August 30, 2017, 06:29:53 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 30, 2017, 12:40:38 PM
I have never seen Steve play but I'm sure many on this board have. Anyone have a scouting report or can anyone share what his game is like?

Status: Walk-on
Year: 2016 (SO)
Position: PG
Height: 6-2
Weight: 180
Hometown:Valparaiso, IN
High School:Valparaiso High School
Previous College: Carroll College (NAIA)

http://www.hudl.com/profile/3493755/steve-helm

Do we have the next Seth Colclasure on our hands in 2020?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on August 31, 2017, 09:41:34 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on August 30, 2017, 06:18:40 PM
Wow I guess he won't actually be eligible to play till 2020-2021  :o because he has to red-shirt this upcoming season and then serve his mormon mission. He'll definitely be fully physically mature by the time he he sees the court for VU. Either way its nice to see a local Valparaiso kid committing to play for his hometown University!

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/903007209637990400
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/903007892189712390
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/903008152500801537
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/903008926815457280

Just read the part about the Mormon mission and can't recall ever having a Mormon on the team before.  So let's say he was 18 out of high school, now 19, sitting out till 20 then two year trip gets him to 22 with three years of eligibility gets him to 25!  There are guys retiring from the NBA at that age!!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: NativeCheesehead on September 01, 2017, 10:39:23 AM
And now you see why BYU football is always pretty good.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: Valpower on September 01, 2017, 02:30:17 PM
I'm not well-informed on the particulars of Mormon mission service and its required level of dedication, but I wonder to what extent they are allowed to concern themselves with staying sharp in their respective sports.  In other words, does the church tailor locations for athletes that will allow them to work out or do they just send them where they are needed and not worry about it?  One could certainly lose a few steps not playing for two years.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on September 01, 2017, 02:34:25 PM
Quote from: Valpower on September 01, 2017, 02:30:17 PM
I'm not well-informed on the particulars of Mormon mission service and its required level of dedication, but I wonder to what extent they are allowed to concern themselves with staying sharp in their respective sports.  In other words, does the church tailor locations for athletes that will allow them to work out or do they just send them where they are needed and not worry about it?  One could certainly lose a few steps not playing for two years.

Nor am I but it is fairly well documented that folks taking those trips seem to return still able to perform at a pretty high level.  Witness the regular stream of 25 year olds put on the floor by BYU!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 01, 2017, 03:31:01 PM
Quote from: vu72 on September 01, 2017, 02:34:25 PM
Quote from: Valpower on September 01, 2017, 02:30:17 PM
I'm not well-informed on the particulars of Mormon mission service and its required level of dedication, but I wonder to what extent they are allowed to concern themselves with staying sharp in their respective sports.  In other words, does the church tailor locations for athletes that will allow them to work out or do they just send them where they are needed and not worry about it?  One could certainly lose a few steps not playing for two years.
Nor am I but it is fairly well documented that folks taking those trips seem to return still able to perform at a pretty high level.  Witness the regular stream of 25 year olds put on the floor by BYU!

There are plenty of examples of guys returning from their Mormon Missions much stronger & better players then before they left. Example: Eric Mika returned last season & he averaged 20 pts & 9 REBs last year for BYU.

I'm not sure how much each player works on their skills during their missions. I'm assuming if a player wanted to they could still work out during their missions.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on September 04, 2017, 10:19:25 AM
I will be surprised if he ever sees any PT. Being a walk on plus having to sit this year plus being gone the next two years....
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on September 06, 2017, 01:48:41 PM
Don't think this has been posted yet.  Athlon preseason magazine is out and has Valpo picked fifth in the Valley.  Tevonn is picked first team all conference.  No one else is on either the first or second teams.  All in all, about what I expected from prognosticators.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 07, 2017, 08:44:54 AM
An interesting question.

https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/905785300215005184

The MVC is overall a much better conference but next year the HL may be a bit top heavier with a few teams. OU put most of their eggs into this year with a senior dominant roster & will take a step back the following year. UIC loses its Center & defensive rock next yr & Dixson may go pro if he has great year. NKU is strong team.

Overall though its definitely the MVC is much deeper & many of the MVC roster have recruited well & will be pretty young next year, including Valpo.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 07, 2017, 09:26:52 AM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/905768016075468800
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: IrishDawg on September 07, 2017, 10:17:48 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on September 07, 2017, 08:44:54 AM
An interesting question.

https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/905785300215005184

The MVC is overall a much better conference but next year the HL may be a bit top heavier with a few teams. OU put most of their eggs into this year with a senior dominant roster & will take a step back the following year. UIC loses its Center & defensive rock next yr & Dixson may go pro if he has great year. NKU is strong team.

Overall though its definitely the MVC is much deeper & many of the MVC roster have recruited well & will be pretty young next year, including Valpo.

It's not even close.  Even without Wichita State or Valpo, the MVC would be a top 10-12 conference.  Horizon just lost one of its best schools in a year in which the conference was ranked 20th and replaced them with IUPUI, who had their best kenpom rating in the last 6 years, and still was barely in the top 200.

Not to mention the MVC as a league is still flush with tournament cash while the Horizon is out of money.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 07, 2017, 01:01:18 PM
IrishDawg, agreed. The MVC is a much better conference. But I think I may give the Horizon League the honor of having the best potential team next year though. All of OU's best players are seniors & they bring in Kendrick Nunn who played his first 3 years with Illinois before getting kicked off the team after his domestic assault charges. Another troubled but very talented red-shirt transfer for Kampe & Co. It's tourney or bust for that team.

There is a lot of bottom feeding to pedestrian teams in the HL still: YSU (may be a tad better next season), Cleveland State, UWM, IUPUI, Green Bay got decimated by transfers, WSU took a huge blow in losing Alstork.

Next year might be a down year in the MVC because a lot of teams are so young but the teams will still have a lot talent on the rosters. MSU & Loyola will be the favorites.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on September 07, 2017, 01:24:59 PM
3 Man Weave asked "TOP TO BOTTOM."  There is no comparison T to B.  MVC hands down
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: ml2 on September 07, 2017, 02:31:58 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on September 07, 2017, 01:01:18 PM
IrishDawg, agreed. The MVC is a much better conference. But I think I may give the Horizon League the honor of having the best potential team next year though. All of OU's best players are seniors & they bring in Kendrick Nunn who played his first 3 years with Illinois before getting kicked off the team after his domestic assault charges. Another troubled but very talented red-shirt transfer for Kampe & Co. It's tourney or bust for that team.

There is a lot of bottom feeding to pedestrian teams in the HL still: YSU (may be a tad better next season), Cleveland State, UWM, IUPUI, Green Bay got decimated by transfers, WSU took a huge blow in losing Alstork.

Next year might be a down year in the MVC because a lot of teams are so young but the teams will still have a lot talent on the rosters. MSU & Loyola will be the favorites.

Don't forget that Oakland has now lost two starters from last year that had eligibility to keep playing, but will not be on the roster in 2017-18 (Isaiah Brock and Stevie Clark). Without those guys OU is still the favorite to win the HL, but they are probably no longer the borderline at-large, "win an NCAA game", type of team that they might have been.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on September 07, 2017, 03:13:04 PM
Quote from: ml2 on September 07, 2017, 02:31:58 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on September 07, 2017, 01:01:18 PM
IrishDawg, agreed. The MVC is a much better conference. But I think I may give the Horizon League the honor of having the best potential team next year though. All of OU's best players are seniors & they bring in Kendrick Nunn who played his first 3 years with Illinois before getting kicked off the team after his domestic assault charges. Another troubled but very talented red-shirt transfer for Kampe & Co. It's tourney or bust for that team.

There is a lot of bottom feeding to pedestrian teams in the HL still: YSU (may be a tad better next season), Cleveland State, UWM, IUPUI, Green Bay got decimated by transfers, WSU took a huge blow in losing Alstork.

Next year might be a down year in the MVC because a lot of teams are so young but the teams will still have a lot talent on the rosters. MSU & Loyola will be the favorites.

Don't forget that Oakland has now lost two starters from last year that had eligibility to keep playing, but will not be on the roster in 2017-18 (Isaiah Brock and Stevie Clark). Without those guys OU is still the favorite to win the HL, but they are probably no longer the borderline at-large, "win an NCAA game", type of team that they might have been.

Where did you read that Clark isn't on the team?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 07, 2017, 03:32:48 PM
vu72, it was officially announced that left a few weeks ago. Rumor was he got into more trouble at OU.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: covufan on September 07, 2017, 05:37:12 PM
Quote from: vu72 on September 07, 2017, 03:13:04 PMWhere did you read that Clark isn't on the team?

Quote from: VU2014 on September 07, 2017, 03:32:48 PM
vu72, it was officially announced that left a few weeks ago. Rumor was he got into more trouble at OU.

Also on verbalcommits:

https://verbalcommits.com/schools/oakland

Also - Oakland is at current maximum for scholarships, so those players have been replaced (scholarship-wise).
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on September 08, 2017, 01:12:31 PM
I don't know if the Valpo Sports Administration is reading our board but it seems all the grousing about the lack of out-reach to the community and the general lack of advertising has heard and an advertising/community outreach plan is beginning to take shape!  Well done!!   :clap:

http://www.valpoathletics.com/football/news/2017-18/17559/valpo-announces-football-promotional-schedule-fan-information/#.WbLcNsh97IV
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 09, 2017, 01:48:53 PM
Its nice seeing the Team & Coaches at the Popcorn Festival.
https://twitter.com/coachgore/status/906538866026450944
https://twitter.com/ValpoU/status/906586280347172866

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on September 09, 2017, 10:40:55 PM
Yes, the team and the university was well represented at the popcorn fest today. Markus Golder wouldn't let me turn down a street early this morning 😂
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on September 10, 2017, 06:03:56 PM
Season tickets (bleachers) are $177/15=$11.80/game.  Season tickets are always priced slightly below single session prices. So apparently, general admission tickets are being raised from $10 to $12 ($12x15=$180).

Looks like chairback prices have gone up, too.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 10, 2017, 06:39:48 PM
A small increase seems reasonable to me, especially with the switch to a much better Conference next season.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 10, 2017, 07:49:51 PM
To compare prices with other MVC Teams:
I talked to a friend who is a Loyola season ticket holder since they were in the Horizon League and apparently the first season they entered the Valley their athletics department significantly raised the ticket prices and it actually hurt their attendance. That combined with the mediocre product on the court since joining the Valley caused their attendance to slide.
Loyola Season Tickets:
Court Side: $545
Gold: $270 (+additional minimal donation $50)
Maroon: $215 (+additional minimal donation $30)
GA: $160
For recent alumni (08-17) they have significantly lowered prices which is pretty nice for each of the tiers besides Courtside seats.
(https://tkt.xosn.com/ticketing/290317/Image.JPG)

INDIANA STATE BASKETBALL TICKET PRICING:
Seat Location   Ticket Price   SAF Donation Required (Per Seat)
Courtside   $335   $400
Floor I   $271   $300
Floor II   $271   $250
Priority I   $231   $175
Faculty/Staff (Priority I)   $195   $175
Priority II   $215   $125
Faculty/Staff (Priority II)   $165   $125
Upper Concourse   $65   NONE
(http://www.gosycamores.com/common/controls/image_handler.aspx?thumb_id=0&image_path=/images/2016/11/20/MBB_Seating.png)
http://www.gosycamores.com/sports/2016/11/20/ticket-information.aspx

Evansville:
Floor (Courtside) Seats: $450
Other sections range from: $324-$252
Then they also have their special Purple Ace Club pricing
If you want to take a look: http://gopurpleaces.com/documents/2017/5/31//2017_2018_MBB_ST_Seating_Map.pdf?id=4308

Bradley:
Courtside: $1,000      
Platinum: $800   
Gold: $450   
Silver: $390      
Bronze: $285
White: $110
Red: $165
(http://bradleybraves.com/common/controls/image_handler.aspx?thumb_id=0&image_path=/images/2016/7/6/Carver_Arena_Map_2016_17.png)
They have a *Premium Price* raise for the Illinois State Games

Illinois State's 2016-2017 Pricing:
(https://ev9.evenue.net/evenue/linkID=illinoisst/images/maps/redbirdArena-2015.gif)

Southern Illinois:
Seats range from $250-$150-$125 (the catch is the best seats require donations up $400, others require up to $250/$200/$150/$50)
https://ev3.evenue.net/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/SEGetEventInfo?ticketCode=GS%3ASIU%3AMB1718%3AMBS%3A&linkID=siu&shopperContext=&pc=&caller=&appCode=&groupCode=MBST&cgc=
(http://ev3.evenue.net/evenue/linkID=siu/images/maps/SIU-Arena_new.jpg)

Missouri State:
Probably one of the most expensive tickets. Their pricing is all over the place so I'll just post the link.
http://www.missouristatebears.com/sports/2016/7/21/tickets-mosu-tickets-m-baskbl-html.aspx

Drake:
SECTION
PREMIUM CENTER (C, D, E, N, O, P): $248 (Required Donation: $250)
PREMIUM OUTER (A, B, F, G, M, N, Q, R): $248 (Required Donation: $150)
RESERVED CENTER (3, 4, 5): $248 (Required Donation: $120)
RESERVED OUTER (1, 2, 6, 7) $248 (Required Donation: $75)
GENERAL ADMISSION (8-25) $129 (Required Donation: $0)
(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/4cb8f5_8af3a3c7ee7f4fb8ac8e1c3b9a03ec32.jpg/v1/fill/w_707,h_714,al_c,lg_1,q_85/4cb8f5_8af3a3c7ee7f4fb8ac8e1c3b9a03ec32.webp)

Northern Iowa:
Adult (Chairbacks and North Bleachers): $219.00 - $299.00   
South Bleacher (Gen. Adm.): $159.00
-Sections 106, 108, 113 & 115 require a $100 per seat donation to PSC
-Sections 107 & 114 require a $250 per seat donation to PSC
(http://unipanthers.com/common/controls/image_handler.aspx?thumb_id=15&image_path=/images/2017/8/31/PSC_Basketball_Tags_1_.jpg)
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 11, 2017, 06:52:04 PM
Just a reminder Luke Gore will be on the student run radio station WVUR 95.1 FM tonight talking with the Student's College Basketball radio broadcast Happening Hoops. He'll be breaking down the schedule and talking about this upcoming season. It will be 7pm CT.

http://streema.com/radios/The_Source_WVUR_FM

https://twitter.com/happeninghoops/status/907278872487645185
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 12, 2017, 02:40:21 PM
https://twitter.com/ValpoAD/status/907658784805462017
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 15, 2017, 02:24:26 PM
This!!! Paul is 100% correct

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/908769794157109249
https://twitter.com/NDmbb/status/908766303409901568
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: EddieCabot on September 15, 2017, 04:39:53 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on September 15, 2017, 02:24:26 PM
This!!! Paul is 100% correct


I know Paul is busy with fall high school sports, but maybe he'll take some time and write about this.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 15, 2017, 05:07:30 PM
Quote from: EddieCabot on September 15, 2017, 04:39:53 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on September 15, 2017, 02:24:26 PM
This!!! Paul is 100% correct


I know Paul is busy with fall high school sports, but maybe he'll take some time and write about this.

Definitely worth writing about.

I believe the Missouri Valley Conference Basketball Media Day is coming up pretty soon.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: crusadermoe on September 15, 2017, 05:10:04 PM
Two new forecasts

Lindys. 
4th place behind MSU, Loyola, and ILstate

Street and Smith
5th behind same plus No Iowa.   They pick them #

Both have Tevon on first team all conf
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: EddieCabot on September 15, 2017, 09:55:02 PM
Quote from: crusadermoe on September 15, 2017, 05:10:04 PM
Two new forecasts

Lindys. 
4th place behind MSU, Loyola, and ILstate

Street and Smith
5th behind same plus No Iowa.   They pick them #

Both have Tevon on first team all conf

I still think these predictions are undervaluing the impact Joe and Bakari will have.  These are two P-5 guys who have spent a year practicing with the team.  I guess we'll see!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: crusadermoe on September 16, 2017, 12:02:20 PM
Might be very true.

Street and Smith noted Burton for All-Newcomer team and noted that he and Bakari had high major creds as transfers.  I don't see transfers at that level coming into the mix for other MVC teams.  S&S seemed to suggest  Valpo is a dark horse for title. 

Frankly, Missouri State and Loyola just don't seem like steady teams with solid  returning starters.  I think it's wide open for at least five teams with Valpo just as able as any to win it.  Jacobsen coaching is always an x factor down the stretch.  I am probably looking forward most to that game at UNI on espn2.

I also think predictors might overplay the "first time through the league" factor.  Valpo won on the road in Terre Haute and Springfield, MO (without Jabril) last year so there's that.

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on September 16, 2017, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: crusadermoe on September 16, 2017, 12:02:20 PM
Might be very true.

Street and Smith noted Burton for All-Newcomer team and noted that he and Bakari had high major creds as transfers.  I don't see transfers at that level coming into the mix for other MVC teams.  S&S seemed to suggest  Valpo is a dark horse for title. 

Frankly, Missouri State and Loyola just don't seem like steady teams with solid  returning starters.  I think it's wide open for at least five teams with Valpo just as able as any to win it.  Jacobsen coaching is always an x factor down the stretch.  I am probably looking forward most to that game at UNI on espn2.

I also think predictors might overplay the "first time through the league" factor.  Valpo won on the road in Terre Haute and Springfield, MO (without Jabril) last year so there's that.



They also had a senior on that team that went on to be drafted and a couple other seniors  that went on to play in high level European leagues. Make no mistake Valpo lost a lot of talent last year but I think they've added a lot as well  Should be a fun season in a tough wide open conference
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 16, 2017, 04:25:01 PM
This sounds like a pretty cool event. Coach Lottich was a pretty good high school Baseball player at New Trier High School, so I'd imagine we'll seem some long balls.

https://twitter.com/CoachLottich/status/909148059707330560
https://twitter.com/ValpoSoftball/status/909128783256571907

http://www.valpoathletics.com/softball/news/2017-18/17582/valpo-softball-to-hold-inaugural-hit-a-thon-october-9/#.Wb2PC0qGOAx

Valpo Softball To Hold Inaugural Hit-a-Thon October 9
Friday, September 15, 2017

The Valparaiso University softball program will be holding its inaugural Hit-a-Thon to raise money for the program, where fans can pledge money on any of the Crusader players or any of the special guests, on Monday, October 9. Kicking the inaugural event off and headlining it will be Valpo men's basketball head coach Matt Lottich.

Each pledger will pledge at least 20 cents per foot to their chosen player or other hitter - each person will get 10 swings, with their farthest recorded batted ball being the registered distance. The event will be open to the public, with pledgers encouraged to join in the fun at the Valpo Softball Complex. Fans who can't attend can tune into the softball program's social media for live coverage.

For more information about the Hit-a-Thon, or to pledge on Coach Lottich or any of the Crusaders, fans are encouraged to contact associate head coach Monica Wright at 219-464-5047 or Monica.Wright@valpo.edu.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on September 17, 2017, 12:36:32 AM
I really appreciate Matt's involvement in more than just MBB.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: ValpoDad89 on September 17, 2017, 10:56:29 AM
Simply awesome!!!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on September 18, 2017, 02:26:14 PM
So the season ticket info is out.  Wondering if parking issues have been addressed at all or if parking fees have increased as did ticket prices?

http://cdn.streamlinetechnologies.com/valpoathletics/54FB8991-F303-4A4F-A19D-307D5827FF54/2017-18_MBB_Season_Tix_Poster.pdf
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on September 19, 2017, 02:18:42 PM
Just saw Street & Smith's basketball preview magazine.  Has Valpo picked 5th with Tevonn first team and Joe all newcomer team as well as Tevonn all defensive team.  What was also interesting was that they broke the conferences down into two groups. "Major" and "Mid-Major".  The Valley was one of 13 conferences listed in the "Major" category along with more in-depth coverage.  The Horizon, of course, was listed as "Mid-Major" and their newest member picked dead last.  Northern Kentucky was picked first, Oakland second.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on September 19, 2017, 02:53:12 PM
Quote from: vu72 on September 18, 2017, 02:26:14 PM
So the season ticket info is out.  Wondering if parking issues have been addressed at all or if parking fees have increased as did ticket prices?

http://cdn.streamlinetechnologies.com/valpoathletics/54FB8991-F303-4A4F-A19D-307D5827FF54/2017-18_MBB_Season_Tix_Poster.pdf

The only reference to parking on the season ticket order form is a comment about how ARC parking options are limited followed by a push to purchase a season parking pass in the same adjacent parking areas as last year.  There is no excavation activity underway for a "temporary" parking area on the old hospital grounds (as someone had suggested) and the "hospital" parking garage remains blocked with concrete barriers.  Unless they plan on clearing the lot across the street to the south prior to home games (which I highly doubt), the ARC will continue as the sports venue with the worst parking situation I have ever observed at any level of sports anywhere from elementary school to professional basketball.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 19, 2017, 03:45:31 PM
https://twitter.com/CollegeHoopNews/status/910234173201420288
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 21, 2017, 11:54:44 AM
This is pretty big news. The Missouri Valley Conference inked a new 3 year deal with NBC Sports Chicago to broad the conference's Men's Basketball Games.

Great news. As many games Cable Broadcast in the greater Chicago-area and Northwest Indiana possible is GOOD for Valpo Basketball.

https://twitter.com/MVCsports/status/910886177145786368

http://mvc-sports.com/news/2017/9/14/mens-basketball-mvc-csn-chicago-inks-3-year-deal.aspx?utm_content=buffer9684e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

MVC / CSN CHICAGO INK 3-YEAR DEAL

ST. LOUIS -- The Missouri Valley Conference and CSN Chicago -- transitioning to "NBC Sports Chicago" on October 2 -- have signed a two-year contract with a mutual option for a third year through the 2019-20 academic term, Commissioner Doug Elgin announced today.

   The Missouri Valley Conference and CSN Chicago began their relationship in October 2004 and just completed a three-year agreement on June 30, 2017.

    Through the partnership, CSN Chicago clears a 16-game Missouri Valley Conference regular-season men's basketball package plus the the first six contests from the State Farm MVC Men's Basketball Tournament -- known as Arch Madness -- at Scottrade Center in St. Louis each March.

..........
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 21, 2017, 12:34:37 PM
Adam brings up some valid points. Fingers crossed: ESPN3 doesn't get blacked out for those games if they put the games on CSN+ (which is CSN Chicago secondary channel that they sometimes put games on when there is a bigger game that they broadcast on the main channel)

https://twitter.com/apgibson42/status/910918628148699136
https://twitter.com/apgibson42/status/910918820101083136
https://twitter.com/apgibson42/status/910918887214022657
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: crusadermoe on September 21, 2017, 06:46:14 PM
Good news about the TV deal! 

Going back to Burton and Evelyn. I am sure Bakari is very good.  But if you look closely at the roster page bio on Joe Burton, he scored in double figures four times as a sophomore and TWO times were against K-State and West Virginia.   

Have we ever had a transfer come to Valpo from a BCS level school with that level of proven scoring ability?   Casey Schmidt?  I don't think Cory Johnson, Boggs, or anyone else had shown double digits vs. conference teams.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on September 21, 2017, 09:43:17 PM
One thing I noticed about Joe Burton when checking out stories written about him when he came out of high school to Oklahoma State is that he graduated from Lutheran North High School of Houston.

https://www.cowboysrideforfree.com/2013/10/21/4864564/oklahoma-state-recruiting-joe-burton-chooses-cowboys

The Cowboys have added yet another elite talent to the 2014 class. Joe Burton out of Lutheran North High School in Porter,TX announced Monday evening that he is taking his talents to Stillwater, OK.

The high school listed for Burton on the Valpo Athletics website is Atascocita. It is also the high school that the Oklahoma State Athletics website listed for Burton.


From info listed on Valpo's own website about Lutheran high schools the student population of Lutheran North High School in Houston is 150.

https://www.valpo.edu/church-relations/lhs-directory/

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.8174093,-95.4196992,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIYLBOK2qOVAsPIjNVsuaWg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on September 21, 2017, 09:45:31 PM
Quote from: crusadermoe on September 21, 2017, 06:46:14 PM
Good news about the TV deal! 

Going back to Burton and Evelyn. I am sure Bakari is very good.  But if you look closely at the roster page bio on Joe Burton, he scored in double figures four times as a sophomore and TWO times were against K-State and West Virginia.   

Have we ever had a transfer come to Valpo from a BCS level school with that level of proven scoring ability?   Casey Schmidt?  I don't think Cory Johnson, Boggs, or anyone else had shown double digits vs. conference teams.

Very good observation. I can't think of anyone.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on September 21, 2017, 10:59:48 PM
Quote from: bbtds on September 21, 2017, 09:43:17 PMFrom info listed on Valpo's own website about Lutheran high schools the student population of Lutheran North High School in Houston is 150.

Now when comparing LHN Houston to Atascocita here's some info about Atascocita HS from their wiki page which might explain why Joe ended up at LHN:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atascocita_High_School

After there was a substantial amount of growth in the Atascocita and Lake Houston portions of Humble ISD,[1] Humble High School became hugely overcrowded, reaching an enrollment of nearly 5,000 students. The district opened Atascocita High School in August 2006 to address the problem.

From its opening, AHS dealt with its own overcrowding problem. During its second year of operation, the campus installed temporary trailer classrooms in one of the parking lots. The following year, a new wing on the east side of the campus was built, the cafeteria was expanded, and the temporary buildings were removed. Finally in 2009, the district opened Summer Creek High School to serve the large Fall Creek and Summerwood subdivisions. Recently, AHS has again begun to experience an overcrowding issue. During the 2015-2016 school year, it built temporary trailer classrooms again in the parking lot of one of the houses to make room for the influx of students.



Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpotx on September 22, 2017, 01:24:22 AM
I even heard about Burton in HS, due to some games he played against competition in the DFW area, as well as being named to the 5A all-state team (second largest class).  When I saw his name pop-up as an incoming transfer, I was pumped!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FWalum on September 22, 2017, 08:39:59 AM
I think that Burton has the potential to be one of the most dynamic players we have seen at Valpo.  A smoother and maybe even more athletic version of Shane Hammink.  I think that Burton must not have felt comfortable with his role at Oklahoma State and has now had a year to mature.  I think being at VU gives him the opportunity to show he deserved that ESPN 100 ranking coming out of High School and I don't expect him to disappoint.

Highlights from a high school game in 2014 where Burton scored 49.  A 7 minute long video with highlights of a number of kids, but it shows just how explosive of a scorer Burton can be.  In the second quarter of this game he scores 13 points in a row for a 2nd quarter total of 21 points.

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on September 22, 2017, 09:10:33 AM
Quote from: FWalum on September 22, 2017, 08:39:59 AM
I think that Burton has the potential to be one of the most dynamic players we have seen at Valpo. A smoother and maybe even more athletic version of Shane Hammink.  I think that Burton must not have felt comfortable with his role at Oklahoma State and has now had a year to mature.  I think being at VU gives him the opportunity to show he deserved that ESPN 100 ranking coming out of High School and I don't expect him to disappoint.

I think our team may be as big as any we have had and also more athletic than any team we have had.  Whether this translates to wins or not is the question.  When you replace guys like Adekoya, Davidson and Simon with Hazen, McMillan and Golder, clearly we will be faster and more athletic.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 22, 2017, 10:16:29 AM
Quote from: vu72 on September 22, 2017, 09:10:33 AM
Quote from: FWalum on September 22, 2017, 08:39:59 AM
I think that Burton has the potential to be one of the most dynamic players we have seen at Valpo. A smoother and maybe even more athletic version of Shane Hammink.  I think that Burton must not have felt comfortable with his role at Oklahoma State and has now had a year to mature.  I think being at VU gives him the opportunity to show he deserved that ESPN 100 ranking coming out of High School and I don't expect him to disappoint.

I think our team may be as big as any we have had and also more athletic than any team we have had.  Whether this translates to wins or not is the question.  When you replace guys like Adekoya, Davidson and Simon with Hazen, McMillan and Golder, clearly we will be faster and more athletic.


Don't forget about Marten Linssen. I'm curious how much we see the freshman play next season. If I had to take a guess which Freshman will get the most playing time next season I'd take a guess it would be Linssen. The coaches have said he's a high motor guy who will rip your arm off to get a rebound. Even if his offense is a bit raw I could see him getting some run just based on rebounding especially if he's pair with Smits who didn't always embrace physicality in paint when grabbing rebounds. They may play well together if Linssen has that mid-range jumper working for himself.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 22, 2017, 03:49:02 PM
The guys shoes next season look sick!!  :thumbsup:

I need a pair!

https://twitter.com/CoachLottich/status/911319844326445058
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpo64 on September 22, 2017, 04:49:15 PM
Hail to the BLACK and gold!   I guess I'm to old to get it.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpo64 on September 22, 2017, 04:52:17 PM
Just do not understand why some of our teams wear brown and gold/yellow while others wear black and gold when our colors are BROWN and gold.  I'd like to hear MLB explain why he allows the inconsistency.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: Valpower on September 22, 2017, 04:58:16 PM
Quote from: valpo64 on September 22, 2017, 04:52:17 PM
Just do not understand why some of our teams wear brown and gold/yellow while others wear black and gold when our colors are BROWN and gold.  I'd like to hear MLB explain why he allows the inconsistency.
One word: morale.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: Valpower on September 22, 2017, 05:02:43 PM
Quote from: Valpower on September 22, 2017, 04:58:16 PM
Quote from: valpo64 on September 22, 2017, 04:52:17 PM
Just do not understand why some of our teams wear brown and gold/yellow while others wear black and gold when our colors are BROWN and gold.  I'd like to hear MLB explain why he allows the inconsistency.
One word: morale.
And I do realize you were mostly wondering why the inconsistency, not why black, rather than brown--but I had to go there.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpo64 on September 23, 2017, 10:11:11 AM
I understand the morale thing...of course.  Black, yeah black solves that problem.  I guess I like the brown morale better.  It is a shame that the football team has a morale problem...those doggone brown and gold colors do it every time I guess.   Go Valpo!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUSWIM08-12 on September 24, 2017, 04:54:21 PM
I love that we are focused on the new guys, and this team will obviously have a completely different look than the past few seasons,however, I think seniors Tevonn and Max will play a huge part in our overall success(obviously Tevonn a lot more than Max). I was at the NIT game at Illinois and Tevonn showed incredible ability to create space and make the open 15-17 footer. From what I have  seen Tevonn's issue had been consistency, but I think senior year will be a different story. If( and I believe) he can average 17.5ppg and 8 boards a game( 11.9 and 5.6 last year) we will at least have the oppotunity to have a solid season. Max can handle the ball, but he has to show the ability to make the open 3 or drive to the basket.  Hopefully Sorrolla  and Smits have improved in the off season. Once Joe gets his game legs back I think he will be right up there with Tevonn in scoring. Really looking forward to the first exhibition game in 39 days!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on September 24, 2017, 07:57:20 PM
I think you are onto something. Tevonn, I am thinking, defered to Alec and Shane out of respect. He altered his game to ensure that Alec and Shane could play theirs. I am thinking that he now realizes that this is his team and that he will be the go-to guy. Gonna be fun.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpopal on September 24, 2017, 08:03:18 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on September 24, 2017, 07:57:20 PM
I think you are onto something. Tevonn, I am thinking, defered to Alec and Shane out of respect. He altered his game to ensure that Alec and Shane could play theirs. I am thinking that he now realizes that this is his team and that he will be the go-to guy. Gonna be fun.


I have seen Tevonn at the ARC recently, and he looks muscularly bigger and even stronger than last year.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 27, 2017, 04:16:49 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/913146750810120192
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/913146969295638528
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/913147307612393472
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/913147684067962881
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/913147975567839233
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/913148445908766720
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 27, 2017, 04:53:55 PM
https://twitter.com/TheReal_MG3/status/913156253123215360
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU75 on September 27, 2017, 05:33:56 PM
Not meaning to be critical but to me  Al Jackson, Duck Dunn and Steve Cropper will always be the real MG3.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 28, 2017, 11:27:30 PM
https://twitter.com/TheReal_MG3/status/913546092205215745
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on September 29, 2017, 09:00:34 PM
https://twitter.com/RandyMFisher/status/913907948958748673
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: ValpoDad89 on September 29, 2017, 11:04:06 PM
I could be wrong and we have all seen Alec Peters but Tevonn is the most athletic and fundamentally sound kid I've seen in my 3 years being a big fan and my 8 years being an around the circle guy. Him having control of this team will be something to see. I have major high hopes for us and LOVE what we are doing from a recruiting / transfer standpoint. As long as he is healthy and the Smits and Soralla's develop under coach Gore we are going to be fine.

Size like this you cannot teach. Basketball court awareness / IQ you cannot give and I think we have more than most of our competition. Hearing Tevonn and Bakari going at it in practice makes us so much better. What other team in our conference outside of the Duke's and UNC's ..etc. have kids making themselves better. We got a good thing going and while I'm sad to see the Alec's and Shane's of this world leave that's the life a college basketball fan. We have a GREAT coaching staff that will continue player development but to hear the kids making themselves better is refreshing to say the least. I am a DePaul alum and fan as I will will always but our AD at Valpo makes Posetti look real bad and the kids there don't compete like Valpo's kids. I'd love to play them in their state of the art facility because I know Valpo would destroy them.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: jsher3141 on September 30, 2017, 07:29:42 PM
Maybe a little off topic, but I really wish Valpo would bring back a midnight madness event. I remember them doing them years ago, but none in recent memory.

I think something like this would be good to get both the community and students hyped for the season, and to introduce everyone to some of the new players we have.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 01, 2017, 01:48:22 PM
First day of practice today.
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/914523433693798400
https://twitter.com/TheReal_MG3/status/914598930096250882
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on October 02, 2017, 09:17:12 AM
So do we continue to post here about all the rumors and stories developing in the next month of practice or do we set up a new thread for that and leave this thread for more general observations and opinions about the entire season?  A separate thread might concentrate our pre-season practice thoughts a bit better and not bury them amongst other 17-18 season observations.  Just wondering.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: oklahomamick on October 02, 2017, 10:41:17 AM
Agreed on Midnight madness.  I remember my first Valpo midnight madness as I was a senior in high school on a recruit trip to Valpo.  Kikas Gomes was throwing down during the dunk contest.  It was before his knee surgery.  The guy could leap and block shots before his ACL went out.  Would love to hear him on Union Street Hoops.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 03, 2017, 10:26:17 AM
Whoever is running the @ValpoBasketball twitter account needs to step up its game. I've been following other Missouri Valley Conference teams social media accounts and they are way more active in tweeting and putting out content. Other teams like Loyola has been tweeting out well produced videos and pictures.

Valpo could probably hire a senior students who are majoring in digital media to produce little pieces of content content (videos/gif/images, etc.) for the team for not too much money. Just something I've noticed the last few months.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 03, 2017, 10:40:51 AM
Looks like the team is getting Media training.
https://twitter.com/RandyMinkoff/status/915224492456255490
https://twitter.com/ValpoWBB/status/913875673730732037
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on October 05, 2017, 09:17:12 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on October 03, 2017, 10:26:17 AM
Whoever is running the @ValpoBasketball twitter account needs to step up its game. I've been following other Missouri Valley Conference teams social media accounts and they are way more active in tweeting and putting out content. Other teams like Loyola has been tweeting out well produced videos and pictures.

I, too, have been checking both the MBB Twitter and FB accounts for news mainly about the players and practice updates -- nothing really, except the MVC TV deals. 

Practice has started and that signals the beginning of the new season.  Yet when you go to the two sites, here's what you see.  FB -- last year's team picture as the banner, pinned video is of Motor City Madness, pinned photos are last year's team picture, a picture of Lexus and a shot of a Purdue player.  Last year's pics should already have been archived as the 2016-2017 album.  Twitter -- the site is just a bit more relevant, but it, too, should now be focusing on the players and practices. Not one item on either account anoouncing/overing the first day of practice.   

Noting this, I went to the MBB Valpo Athletics website and checked that out.  Same neglect.  Two new players (and prize recruits) don't have bios yet:   Parker and Mileek. That's embarrassing for them. New assistant Emanuel Dildy has a brief bio but no picture. Julie Vick, the MBB Administrative Assistant, has no bio, no picture and just an email address. 

C'mon, man.  MBB is the flagship sport at Valpo.  MBB was the reason we jumped to the MVC.  Is it a resources thing?  A better question is how long does it take to write 3 bios, take 2 pictures and complete the website?  The program had all summer and almost two full months of fall to get a person or persons to master a camera and get good at posting techniques to both Twitter and FB to get this thing going right.  Heck, the best producer of up-to-date player news is Markus Golder and he's a player!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpopal on October 05, 2017, 09:41:54 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on October 05, 2017, 09:17:12 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on October 03, 2017, 10:26:17 AM
Whoever is running the @ValpoBasketball twitter account needs to step up its game. I've been following other Missouri Valley Conference teams social media accounts and they are way more active in tweeting and putting out content. Other teams like Loyola has been tweeting out well produced videos and pictures.

I, too, have been checking both the MBB Twitter and FB accounts for news mainly about the players and practice updates -- nothing really, except the MVC TV deals. 

Practice has started and that signals the beginning of the new season.  Yet when you go to the two sites, here's what you see.  FB -- last year's team picture as the banner, pinned video is of Motor City Madness, pinned photos are last year's team picture, a picture of Lexus and a shot of a Purdue player.  Last year's pics should already have been archived as the 2016-2017 album.  Twitter -- the site is just a bit more relevant, but it, too, should now be focusing on the players and practices. Not one item on either account anoouncing/overing the first day of practice.   

Noting this, I went to the MBB Valpo Athletics website and checked that out.  Same neglect.  Two new players (and prize recruits) don't have bios yet:   Parker and Mileek. That's embarrassing for them. New assistant Emanuel Dildy has a brief bio but no picture. Julie Vick, the MBB Administrative Assistant, has no bio, no picture and just an email address. 

C'mon, man.  MBB is the flagship sport at Valpo.  MBB was the reason we jumped to the MVC.  Is it a resources thing?  A better question is how long does it take to write 3 bios, take 2 pictures and complete the website?  The program had all summer and almost two full months of fall to get a person or persons to master a camera and get good at posting techniques to both Twitter and FB to get this thing going right.  Heck, the best producer of up-to-date player news is Markus Golder and he's a player!


I wrote the following on the board back when Valpo was accepted to the MVC, and I am still waiting for signs of innovative thinking:



"I think it will be important to watch what the university administration does between July 1 and the opening day at home of basketball season. I believe the consensus on this board is that the opportunity to promote Valpo, as well as increase attendance and facilities, was squandered following the Sweet-16 season... Now, we are at another juncture where Valpo basketball can be instrumental in promoting VU. Will the administration take this opportunity to renew the brand by upgrading the ARC and by advertising the MVC? Will there be a new approach to marketing and better attention to game atmosphere—perhaps live halftime shows, more appealing concession stands, aggressive promotion in the surrounding communities, etc? Will we see some innovative thinking to go with the entrance into a new league? Let's not squander this opportunity!"
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 05, 2017, 11:02:03 AM
A potential new walk-on transfer from Detroit-Mercy? Sounds like Patrick is practicing with the team. Valpo Basketball has some pretty good walk-on/practice squad.

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/915965451812917254
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/915965724237139969
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/915966025027514369
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/915966769872932864
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/915967130218188800
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on October 05, 2017, 12:14:51 PM
Quote from: valpopal on October 05, 2017, 09:41:54 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on October 05, 2017, 09:17:12 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on October 03, 2017, 10:26:17 AM
Whoever is running the @ValpoBasketball twitter account needs to step up its game. I've been following other Missouri Valley Conference teams social media accounts and they are way more active in tweeting and putting out content. Other teams like Loyola has been tweeting out well produced videos and pictures.

I, too, have been checking both the MBB Twitter and FB accounts for news mainly about the players and practice updates -- nothing really, except the MVC TV deals. 

Practice has started and that signals the beginning of the new season.  Yet when you go to the two sites, here's what you see.  FB -- last year's team picture as the banner, pinned video is of Motor City Madness, pinned photos are last year's team picture, a picture of Lexus and a shot of a Purdue player.  Last year's pics should already have been archived as the 2016-2017 album.  Twitter -- the site is just a bit more relevant, but it, too, should now be focusing on the players and practices. Not one item on either account anoouncing/overing the first day of practice.   

Noting this, I went to the MBB Valpo Athletics website and checked that out.  Same neglect.  Two new players (and prize recruits) don't have bios yet:   Parker and Mileek. That's embarrassing for them. New assistant Emanuel Dildy has a brief bio but no picture. Julie Vick, the MBB Administrative Assistant, has no bio, no picture and just an email address. 

C'mon, man.  MBB is the flagship sport at Valpo.  MBB was the reason we jumped to the MVC.  Is it a resources thing?  A better question is how long does it take to write 3 bios, take 2 pictures and complete the website?  The program had all summer and almost two full months of fall to get a person or persons to master a camera and get good at posting techniques to both Twitter and FB to get this thing going right.  Heck, the best producer of up-to-date player news is Markus Golder and he's a player!


I wrote the following on the board back when Valpo was accepted to the MVC, and I am still waiting for signs of innovative thinking:



"I think it will be important to watch what the university administration does between July 1 and the opening day at home of basketball season. I believe the consensus on this board is that the opportunity to promote Valpo, as well as increase attendance and facilities, was squandered following the Sweet-16 season... Now, we are at another juncture where Valpo basketball can be instrumental in promoting VU. Will the administration take this opportunity to renew the brand by upgrading the ARC and by advertising the MVC? Will there be a new approach to marketing and better attention to game atmosphere—perhaps live halftime shows, more appealing concession stands, aggressive promotion in the surrounding communities, etc? Will we see some innovative thinking to go with the entrance into a new league? Let's not squander this opportunity!"

Along those lines, those of you who drive the highways and roads of NW Indiana/SE Chicagoland, have you seen billboards proclaiming Valpo's new MVC affilliation and promoting Valpo as NE Indiana's D-I Basketball program????? 

In driving down from WI a couple of times in the past I have seen billboards (at least one digital) promoting school athletic programs at places like IU Northwest and  Purdue University North Central (don't hold me to the exact names, please).  You know, there's more to marketing and promotion than social media and web sites.  Sometimes you need to really be in people's faces.

If you've seen them, then that's a big step in a positive direction.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: covufan on October 05, 2017, 12:16:50 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on October 05, 2017, 11:02:03 AMA potential new walk-on transfer from Detroit-Mercy? Sounds like Patrick is practicing with the team. Valpo Basketball has some pretty good walk-on/practice squad.

I don't see him getting another year.  In 2015-16 he played in 6 or 7 games, including games in Nov, Dec, Jan, and Feb.  Even if he gets eligibility, he won't see much time on the court.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/3948162/year/2016/patrick-robinson-jr

His experience and practice time could be valuable - maybe he is more of a graduate assistant?  Maybe getting connections at Valpo and the MVC will enhance his opportunity for a GA position next year?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: oklahomamick on October 05, 2017, 01:08:47 PM
http://www.mvcfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4790&p=109091#p109091

Most mvc fans agree that Valpo finishes 7th in the new league. 
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 05, 2017, 01:21:04 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on October 05, 2017, 01:08:47 PM
http://www.mvcfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4790&p=109091#p109091

Most mvc fans agree that Valpo finishes 7th in the new league. 

Its somewhat reasonable to assume that from an outsiders perspective. I'm assuming of their analysis is: Lose Peters + Look at box scores from last year = 7th place...

I personally pegged us 6th or 5th but maybe 4th place. OR higher if everything comes together & guys step up & are better then expected.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on October 05, 2017, 01:37:31 PM
The Predictions magazines have us 3rd or 4th, surly not 7th.  Tevonn is picked 1st team all conference.  Joe Burton probably should be.  Our starting point guard is now at Boise State.  Why?  Bakari Evelyn.  Our two 7 footers aren't freshman any longer.  Maybe 4th.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: NativeCheesehead on October 06, 2017, 07:39:28 AM
Good point made on website / social media. Outside of on the court success, we lag behind badly in areas of marketing, promotion, branding, etc. (And this doesn't even get into the ridiculous bathroom and parking situation) And I think that will be exposed further in the MVC.

People (outside this board) are too quick to pass all of that off as a budget issue. I think it's a creative issue. Look at the details. We've run the same in game promotions for years (free throw contest, bounce the ball into the trash can, etc.) Now even the most creative of these types of things don't really move the needle, but they're symptoms of the larger problem. The billboard example above is a good one. IUN's on 30 proclaims them "The Region's University". How about just a giant billboard with nothing but #ValpoInTheValley and let people explore that? Something. Anything.

I'm still salty as hell that there now stands (or lays) a Purdue themed basketball court in the middle of town. And sure, when someone is willing to donate that, you say yes and thank you. But Vu should have turned around and built one at Kirchoff and one somewhere else, and run a free camp on each over the summer.

So the question is: Are these ideas not being generated within the department? Or are they being shot down? Two separate issues.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on October 06, 2017, 08:48:03 AM
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on October 06, 2017, 07:39:28 AMwe lag behind badly in areas of marketing, promotion, branding, etc.

Living far away from campus, I have nothing to add to your thought.  Nonetheless, perhaps your comments should be directed directly to those on staff whose titles would indicate some level of responsibility for addressing your concern, as follows:

Anne VanKeppel, Associate Director of Athletics for Corporate Partnerships

http://www.valpoathletics.com/athletics/staff/2706/anne-vankeppel/#.WdeHjWiPLIU

Lexi Nichols, Assistant Director of Marketing for Athletics

http://www.valpoathletics.com/athletics/staff/8985/lexi-nichols/#.WdeIsWiPLIU

In at least Lexi's position, I'm not sure if this was a new hire to address these concerns or if she replaced someone. She did only start in October of 2016.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpopal on October 07, 2017, 09:31:36 PM
I notice that Sorolla, who was listed as 6'11 last year, is listed this year at 7'0"; add this to Smits at 7'2". I looked into past rosters and couldn't find another Valpo team that had two players officially listed as 7-footers. I found seasons where one player was 7'0" and another 6'11"; I wonder if this is the first time we had a pair of players officially listed as 7-footers—and both are only sophomores!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on October 07, 2017, 09:53:17 PM
Quote from: valpopal on October 07, 2017, 09:31:36 PM
I notice that Sorolla, who was listed as 6'11 last year, is listed this year at 7'0"; add this to Smits at 7'2". I looked into past rosters and couldn't find another Valpo team that had two players officially listed as 7-footers. I found seasons where one player was 7'0" and another 6'11"; I wonder if this is the first time we had a pair of players officially listed as 7-footers—and both are only sophomores!

Keep these guys on the weights. I know we want to do well in this first season in the MVC, but these guys are only sophs. Bulk them up through the season. Accept the bricks and clumsiness this season while they are on the weights (but they are still 7 footers) and look forward to their next two years together.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 09, 2017, 02:48:32 PM
Coach Lottich and John Kiser hitting bombs!
https://twitter.com/ValpoSoftball/status/917472921051856896
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 09, 2017, 04:04:38 PM
Over at Mid-Major Madness they wrote about Coach Lottich hitting homeruns in the Valpo Softball hit-a-thon.

https://twitter.com/mid_madness/status/917490519151923202

https://www.midmajormadness.com/2017/10/9/16449768/watch-valparaiso-head-coach-matt-lottich-hits-dingers-home-run

WATCH: Valparaiso head coach Matt Lottich hits dingers
Your coach doesn't go yard? Can't relate.
by Chris Schutte@ChrisSchutte3  Oct 9, 2017, 1:42pm PDT
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 10, 2017, 12:57:57 PM
https://twitter.com/CollegeHoopNews/status/917808295414550533
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on October 11, 2017, 05:35:24 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on October 10, 2017, 12:57:57 PM
https://twitter.com/CollegeHoopNews/status/917808295414550533

IMO for Tevonn's offensive game to blossom this year, Matt needs to find someone else to chase the opposing team's best back court player all over the court non-stop. You can only get run ragged for so long before it takes it toll on your body.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on October 11, 2017, 06:20:01 PM
Quote from: wh on October 11, 2017, 05:35:24 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on October 10, 2017, 12:57:57 PM
https://twitter.com/CollegeHoopNews/status/917808295414550533

IMO for Tevonn's offensive game to blossom this year, Matt needs to find someone else to chase the opposing team's best back court player all over the court non-stop. You can only get run ragged for so long before it takes it toll on your body.


It may be "Tevonn's team" but I would be surprised if Joe Burton isn't the number one scoring option.  Should be a really fun, interesting year!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on October 11, 2017, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: vu72 on October 11, 2017, 06:20:01 PM
Quote from: wh on October 11, 2017, 05:35:24 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on October 10, 2017, 12:57:57 PM
https://twitter.com/CollegeHoopNews/status/917808295414550533

IMO for Tevonn's offensive game to blossom this year, Matt needs to find someone else to chase the opposing team's best back court player all over the court non-stop. You can only get run ragged for so long before it takes it toll on your body.


It may be "Tevonn's team" but I would be surprised if Joe Burton isn't the number one scoring option.  Should be a really fun, interesting year!

Interesting proposition. Especially in that no one has ever seen this guy play a second in a Valpo uniform.

And that brings me back to my complaint about the communications coming out of MBB. Freaking Crickets.

There are plenty of ways to communicate to your fan base without giving away strategic secrets. We are starved for any crumbs that reflect what is happening. I'd settle for freaking fake news. Sorry, but someone in the athletic department is asleep at the switch. We should be inundated with all sorts of meaningless information, dammit.

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FWalum on October 12, 2017, 12:06:43 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on October 11, 2017, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: vu72 on October 11, 2017, 06:20:01 PM
Quote from: wh on October 11, 2017, 05:35:24 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on October 10, 2017, 12:57:57 PM
https://twitter.com/CollegeHoopNews/status/917808295414550533

IMO for Tevonn's offensive game to blossom this year, Matt needs to find someone else to chase the opposing team's best back court player all over the court non-stop. You can only get run ragged for so long before it takes it toll on your body.


It may be "Tevonn's team" but I would be surprised if Joe Burton isn't the number one scoring option.  Should be a really fun, interesting year!

Interesting proposition. Especially in that no one has ever seen this guy play a second in a Valpo uniform.

And that brings me back to my complaint about the communications coming out of MBB. Freaking Crickets.

There are plenty of ways to communicate to your fan base without giving away strategic secrets. We are starved for any crumbs that reflect what is happening. I'd settle for freaking fake news. Sorry, but someone in the athletic department is asleep at the switch. We should be inundated with all sorts of meaningless information, dammit.
Love the passion VULB#62. I too have to admit that I come on here, watch twitter, check my RSS feed for the latest Union Street Hoops, Happening Hoops or Inside the Valley podcasts looking for that nugget of information. The crumbs are few and far between.  As far as Joe Burton is concerned, my expectations for him are derived from his ESPN 100 status and Jubril describing him as an athletic freak on Union Street Hoops. The fact that most of our D1 transfers have made significant contributions leads me to believe that he will succeed, but I don't think any players have come in with the expectations Burton might face.

Can't wait to see Tevonn this senior year, I hope he can remain injury free because if he does he could have a special year.  I loved him as a player the first game I saw him play.  Defensively there are not many who deny the ball better than Tevonn, his defensive positioning instincts are rare, one of the reasons a 6'2" guard is second on the team in rebounding. I really hope that the huge effort he gives on both ends of the court will translate to leadership his teammates follow to a successful campaign.

So, YES give us more (even meaningless) information about this inaugural MVC basketball season!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on October 12, 2017, 01:00:32 PM
For what it is worth (probably not much  ;D)  I have personally spoken to two people in high places in Athletics who have told me that in their opinion Joe Burton is the most athletic player they have seen at Valpo and that includes Shane Hammink.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 12, 2017, 02:57:42 PM
It looks like they are starting to get more active on the Valpo Basketball twitter account again. Posted a video from practice today.

IMO, they should have been very active on this account all summer and Fall, promoting the Team and the Conference switch. I'm surprised they don't have a professional working their social media accounts... I'm sure University has to have someone dedicated to overseeing their social media.

They've been putting out a good amount of content out on their Football and soccer teams accounts but not so much the basketball, which is odd because Men's Basketball is literally the University's premier Sport.

https://twitter.com/valpobasketball/status/918560193042112517
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FWalum on October 12, 2017, 05:26:25 PM
Great to see the practice video!!! :clap:  Just one request.... PLEASE TAKE VIDEO IN THE 16:9 ORIENTATION, we could see a lot more of what is going on! Is your TV sitting on end at home??
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on October 12, 2017, 07:08:27 PM
Quote from: FWalum on October 12, 2017, 05:26:25 PM
Great to see the practice video!!! :clap:  Just one request.... PLEASE TAKE VIDEO IN THE 16:9 ORIENTATION, we could see a lot more of what is going on! Is your TV sitting on end at home??

Just so it's clear to everyone and because I'm not very  experienced at these things, if someone is using their cell phone to take video how do they take the video in 16:9? Do they just turn their cell phone 90 degrees?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vufan75 on October 12, 2017, 07:45:51 PM
Another short video from YouTube for Valpo MBB called Inside Practice.

https://youtu.be/e-hdEUq73ik

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Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on October 12, 2017, 07:51:58 PM
Quote from: vufan75 on October 12, 2017, 07:45:51 PM
Another short video from YouTube for Valpo MBB called Inside Practice.

https://youtu.be/e-hdEUq73ik

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Love it.  Can't wait!!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUBBFan on October 12, 2017, 08:02:52 PM

Quote from: vufan75 on October 12, 2017, 07:45:51 PMAnother short video from YouTube for Valpo MBB called Inside Practice. https://youtu.be/e-hdEUq73ik Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk

Is it me or does it look like Micah has put on 10+ lbs of upper body muscle. Can't see too much in the video but he doesn't seem so skinny any more.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpopal on October 12, 2017, 08:12:08 PM
Quote from: VUBBFan on October 12, 2017, 08:02:52 PM

Quote from: vufan75 on October 12, 2017, 07:45:51 PMAnother short video from YouTube for Valpo MBB called Inside Practice. https://youtu.be/e-hdEUq73ik (https://youtu.be/e-hdEUq73ik) Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk

Is it me or does it look like Micah has put on 10+ lbs of upper body muscle. Can't see too much in the video but he doesn't seem so skinny any more.


I asked Coach Dildy about Micah's summer weight room workouts a couple of weeks ago, and he told me I'd notice a pleasant difference when I saw Micah in uniform, though he still has more strengthening to go.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FWalum on October 12, 2017, 08:50:09 PM
Quote from: bbtds on October 12, 2017, 07:08:27 PM
Quote from: FWalum on October 12, 2017, 05:26:25 PM
Great to see the practice video!!! :clap:  Just one request.... PLEASE TAKE VIDEO IN THE 16:9 ORIENTATION, we could see a lot more of what is going on! Is your TV sitting on end at home??

Just so it's clear to everyone and because I'm not very  experienced at these things, if someone is using their cell phone to take video how do they take the video in 16:9? Do they just turn their cell phone 90 degrees?

Yes, turn the phone 90 degrees.  Just like you would if you were watching YouTube, Netflix or any other video service.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 12, 2017, 10:33:45 PM
My impressions from the two videos today (can't really take much away from them other then physiques):
-I'm glad to see the content  :thumbsup:

-Like VUBBFan mentioned Micah looks like he's added size and looks stronger.

-Parker Hazen looks like he's added some muscle also this summer.

-We have a Marten Linssen sighting! He looks a little leaner (in a good way) then some of those youtube highlight videos but still has that stronger frame. He's listed as 6-8, 240lbs. on the team site.

-John Kiser is wearing one of those protective face masks. Did get injured this summer?

-I couldn't tell who was wearing the No. 30 practice jersey but I think thats Patrick Robinson Jr. (formerly of Detroit-Mercy).

-In that twitter video, it looks like Joe Burton has some easy hops.

Quote from: vu72 on October 12, 2017, 01:00:32 PM
For what it is worth (probably not much  ;D)  I have personally spoken to two people in high places in Athletics who have told me that in their opinion Joe Burton is the most athletic player they have seen at Valpo and that includes Shane Hammink.

Definitely nice to hear. I'm really looking forward to seeing Joe play along with Bakari and all the new guys.

Has anyone heard anything about the "readiness" of any of the other new guys on the team? I'm just dying to see how the guys look on the court during competition. This is big year for Valpo Athletics and we're in a new era of Valpo Basketball.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 13, 2017, 08:07:13 PM
A potential Valpo vs Wichita State charity game would be fun
https://twitter.com/JLutzMedia/status/919003765943832576
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 14, 2017, 02:58:20 PM
Looks like they are shooting the intro and promos for Valpo Basketball! Markus is definitely winning any dunk contest on this team.
https://twitter.com/TheReal_MG3/status/919283575178055681
https://twitter.com/TheReal_MG3/status/919247097257394176
https://twitter.com/PowerhouseHoops/status/919265670482632704
https://twitter.com/p_hazen/status/919260280462262272
https://twitter.com/JaumeSorolla/status/919291656079331328
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpo64 on October 14, 2017, 04:24:46 PM
Are those new uniforms or are these "new looks" practice jerseys?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 14, 2017, 04:31:07 PM
Quote from: valpo64 on October 14, 2017, 04:24:46 PM
Are those new uniforms or are these "new looks" practice jerseys?

New uniforms.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vufan75 on October 14, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
Joe Burton intro video.
[emoji353]️ https://t.co/gQH9hJCtWV

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Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on October 14, 2017, 06:07:23 PM
Quote from: vufan75 on October 14, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
Joe Burton intro video.
[emoji353]️ https://t.co/gQH9hJCtWV

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Link does not work, please repost
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 14, 2017, 06:14:50 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on October 14, 2017, 06:07:23 PM
Quote from: vufan75 on October 14, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
Joe Burton intro video.
[emoji353]️ https://t.co/gQH9hJCtWV

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Link does not work, please repost

His twitter account is private. You have to send follow request to see his twitter profile.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 14, 2017, 11:37:23 PM
A little trash talk from a Valpo Student  ;D
https://twitter.com/happeninghoops/status/919405665889767424
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on October 15, 2017, 03:06:18 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on October 14, 2017, 11:37:23 PM
A little trash talk from a Valpo Student  ;D
https://twitter.com/happeninghoops/status/919405665889767424

Even better from a fan in the current HL.

Well Greg it's good to see your program is peaking in October because we all know what happens to the Griz come March. #earlyroundexits
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 15, 2017, 12:57:22 PM
Past & Present #5s
https://twitter.com/chrisartis5/status/919384752699912192
https://twitter.com/CoachSparks5/status/919385580584218624
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: JBC1824 on October 15, 2017, 07:03:49 PM
Hello everyone, new to the forum. Not sure if this has been discussed yet, but I'd be interested to know what people think regarding what the depth chart might look like this season. Here's my breakdown:

PG Bakari, Joseph, Bradford
SG Walker, Golder
SF Burton, Kiser
PF Hazen, Linssen, McMillan 
C Sorolla, Smits

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on October 15, 2017, 07:56:06 PM
Quote from: JBC1824 on October 15, 2017, 07:03:49 PM
Hello everyone, new to the forum. Not sure if this has been discussed yet, but I'd be interested to know what people think regarding what the depth chart might look like this season. Here's my breakdown:

PG Bakari, Joseph, Bradford
SG Walker, Golder
SF Burton, Kiser
PF Hazen, Linssen, McMillan 
C Sorolla, Smits

Wow, all these conversations about our newly eligible transfers and I completely forgot how young we are at PF.  Hazen hasn't been talked about since signing, but he really is our top PF available.

Or do we think Burton plays 50% SF and 50% PF?  Still means big minutes for the freshmen trio. 🍼👶🏻
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 15, 2017, 08:28:49 PM
Quote from: JBC1824 on October 15, 2017, 07:03:49 PM
Hello everyone, new to the forum. Not sure if this has been discussed yet, but I'd be interested to know what people think regarding what the depth chart might look like this season. Here's my breakdown:

PG Bakari, Joseph, Bradford
SG Walker, Golder
SF Burton, Kiser
PF Hazen, Linssen, McMillan 
C Sorolla, Smits

Welcome to the forum!

Starting Lineup: (just my guess)

PG: Bakari (may not be a lock. I've heard good things about Max this Fall and Micah looks a lot stronger)
SG: Walker (a Lock)
SF: Burton (a Lock)
PF: I have no clue. We are really young at PF. I'm guessing whoever will be least of a liability in terms of defense and rebounding will get the nod.
C: Sorolla (maybe Smits because Sorolla still has to sit out a game for getting caught underage drinking least year. My guess is he'll sit out the exhibition game)

Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on October 15, 2017, 07:56:06 PM
Wow, all these conversations about our newly eligible transfers and I completely forgot how young we are at PF.  Hazen hasn't been talked about since signing, but he really is our top PF available.

Or do we think Burton plays 50% SF and 50% PF?  Still means big minutes for the freshmen trio. 🍼👶🏻

I don't think Burton will play any PF this year. I think mainly SF and maybe with some lineup he could play the SG or just go with 2 Forwards when Tevonn is on the bench for a rest. It sounds like Burton is plenty athletic enough to cover a guard.

Definitely agree that Hazen hasn't been talked about enough. He looks like he's added some muscle this summer. https://www.instagram.com/p/BaPNB6igVEfKeotmXC983hxwGTPAlB-gjX3AAQ0/ He is listed as a SF on verbal commits, but I think most sites I've seen list him as a PF. His senior year of high school he was forced to play out of position at Center. I saw a couple of his games that were posted on youtube and his team looked absolutely brutal. Parker was the only player with college potential on that team so he was swarmed every time he touched the ball. Parker seemed plenty quick/athletic enough to play SF, imo. The jump-shot needed work. I'm not sure how his shot has progressed since then.

Whoever is the most "ready" will get the PF starting spot I'm guessing, but I'm sure the coaches will be mixing and matching a lot with different lineups. My gut says it will be Linssen.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on October 15, 2017, 09:07:26 PM
RE:  Linssen.

I think he gets a lot of minutes as a pure rebounder/enforcer. From what we've read, he is a rip-your-arms-off rebounder and this team needs some brutality down low.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 15, 2017, 09:58:07 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on October 15, 2017, 09:07:26 PM
RE:  Linssen.

I think he gets a lot of minutes as a pure rebounder/enforcer. From what we've read, he is a rip-your-arms-off rebounder and this team needs some brutality down low.

I think he'd possibly be a nice pairing at PF with Smits. Smits is a bit more of a finesse player. Linssen has a nice mid-range jump shot for a big guy from what I've heard.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on October 15, 2017, 10:10:34 PM
What have we heard about Derrik's performance this summer. Has the international experience (from what I understand is more physical down low) helped to make him more of a sizeable presence?

At 7-2 he has GOT to be a rim protector.

If I was Matt, I would have Derrik work 90% on toughness, shot blocking, timing, positioning, and intimidating smaller post players. But then, who am I to tell a real honest to goodness coach how to coach
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: justducky on October 15, 2017, 10:23:34 PM
Quote from: JBC1824 on October 15, 2017, 07:03:49 PMPG Bakari, Joseph, Bradford
SG Walker, Golder
SF Burton, Kiser
PF Hazen, Linssen, McMillan 
C Sorolla, Smits
I have confidence in our point guards. Same with our shooting guards. Shooting forwards and centers should also be reliable. That leaves the trio of Hazen, Linssen and McMillan who are all freshman to man the PF position? Adequately? I don't think so, at least until much later in the season.

So do we try to pick the best of the 3 and fast track him with Fazekas waiting in the 18-19 season wings? Maybe not! Maybe all will need to be brought along gradually? Maybe Burton plays more at the 4 than would be ideal? Maybe Sorolla and Smits spend some significant minutes on the floor together?

The PF position is so important and here we stand with a complete question mark. There is a reason we are expected to be a mid tier MVC team this year and most of it has to do with our total inexperience and unproven shooting at this position.

So what will our February player rotations look like? I don't even have a clue but I am expecting the unexpected. Finding all the best answers is just likely to take a while. Be patient.

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on October 16, 2017, 05:39:14 AM
Quote from: JBC1824 on October 15, 2017, 07:03:49 PM
Hello everyone, new to the forum. Not sure if this has been discussed yet, but I'd be interested to know what people think regarding what the depth chart might look like this season. Here's my breakdown:

PG Bakari, Joseph, Bradford
SG Walker, Golder
SF Burton, Kiser
PF Hazen, Linssen, McMillan 
C Sorolla, Smits

Good list. I would note that Golder is described as a "swingman" in the Athletic Department's signing announcement, meaning he is capable of playing either shooting guard or small forward. Kiser is a swingman, as well. Both can be used interchangeably to back up Tevonn and Burton. Similarly, Max is not a pure point guard, but rather a combination guard. All 3 give the team a lot of options and potential combinations.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: oklahomamick on October 16, 2017, 09:11:03 AM
I understand Bradford was point last year and brought the ball up.  However, what if he is the shooting guard?  They say he is a very good shooter.  Can he relieve Walker?  I thought Bradford was gifted minutes and a starting position. 
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpo4life on October 16, 2017, 09:25:10 AM
I wouldn't get caught up in player's positioning. Numbering a player 1 through 5 really only matters when learning/drawing up set plays on offense. And defensively things will change every single game. The focus should be on the fact that we have multiple guys who can guard multiple positions, and that is extremely valuable. We have options. The thing I'm looking forward to the most this season doesn't even have to do with a single player, but what Lottich does with them. I can't wait to see the different combinations he throws out there and how aggressive we are defensively. I think this may be a Valpo team unlike any other we have seen.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on October 16, 2017, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: valpo4life on October 16, 2017, 09:25:10 AM
I wouldn't get caught up in player's positioning. Numbering a player 1 through 5 really only matters when learning/drawing up set plays on offense. And defensively things will change every single game. The focus should be on the fact that we have multiple guys who can guard multiple positions, and that is extremely valuable. We have options. The thing I'm looking forward to the most this season doesn't even have to do with a single player, but what Lottich does with them. I can't wait to see the different combinations he throws out there and how aggressive we are defensively. I think this may be a Valpo team unlike any other we have seen.
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Totally agree.  We not only are one of the tallest Valpo teams ever, we are probably the most athletic ever.  As for size, think back to 2010-2011 when we had one guy at 7'1" (Vucic) who was awful and ultimately transferred. Other than a non-playing Vucic, we had three guys 6'7 and 6'8".  This year 6 guys 6'7" or taller with two 7' guys playing regularly.

I can see a lot of intense pressure on D.  How the pieces all fit together will be very interesting,no doubt.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on October 16, 2017, 10:39:06 AM
Here's another small marketing and promotion tactic I'd like to see.  A Count-down Clock on the Valpo Atletics website banner and maybe the MBB Twitter/FB sites.

Our first regular season game tips off on November 10th at 7PM at the ARC vs. North Park.  We are  something like ___25___ Days __N__ Hours ___N___ Minutes away from tipoff. Wouldn't it be nice to see that in a count down clock?  Also, later, once the season is underway (say, December 1?), I could also see another countdown clock appearing for our very first MVC game @ Indiana State on December 28th.

It's just another way to build enthusiasm.

Even if Valpo doesn't do it, might that be possible on the banner of this board?  That would be cool IMO.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: covufan on October 16, 2017, 12:49:23 PM
I don't necessarily see the lineups as strictly PG, SG, SF, PF and C.  I think Valpo has been team of 3G and 2F for many years -decades even.  I see players getting playing time at the G/SF position as Joseph, Walker, Burton, Evelyn, Bradford, Golder, Kiser and Hazen.  I see players splitting time at the F position as Burton, Smits, Sorolla, Kiser, Hazen, McMillan, and Linssen.  I do see Burton getting minutes with only one of Smits/Sorolla/McMillan/Linssen, possibly putting Burton into a PF position - depending on the current matchup of the team they are playing.  It is all about finding the right mix of players against the other teams players.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on October 16, 2017, 01:41:41 PM
Quote from: covufan on October 16, 2017, 12:49:23 PM
I don't necessarily see the lineups as strictly PG, SG, SF, PF and C.  I think Valpo has been team of 3G and 2F for many years -decades even.  I see players getting playing time at the G/SF position as Joseph, Walker, Burton, Evelyn, Bradford, Golder, Kiser and Hazen.  I see players splitting time at the F position as Burton, Smits, Sorolla, Kiser, Hazen, McMillan, and Linssen.  I do see Burton getting minutes with only one of Smits/Sorolla/McMillan/Linssen, possibly putting Burton into a PF position - depending on the current matchup of the team they are playing.  It is all about finding the right mix of players against the other teams players.

Well said, but I'd argue that (currently) using the PG, SG, SF, PF, C dynamic remains important for setting the minutes roster.

Basketball has become a game of matchups for years now.  You still have to defend size/speed ranges equivalent to the standard system.

I might go further and say MINUTES HOGS more than starters.  Jaume probably started a disproportionately small number of games but very likely out gained in minutes over Smits.

I'd rather not get cute with "basketball isn't PG SG SF PF C anymore".  We all know this, but if you have a better equivalent than Starter or Minutes, I'd entertain that.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: justducky on October 16, 2017, 07:01:31 PM
Quote from: vu72 on October 16, 2017, 10:14:07 AMWe not only are one of the tallest Valpo teams ever, we are probably the most athletic ever.  As for size, think back to 2010-2011 when we had one guy at 7'1" (Vucic) who was awful and ultimately transferred. Other than a non-playing Vucic, we had three guys 6'7 and 6'8".  This year 6 guys 6'7" or taller with two 7' guys playing regularly.
Vucic was a longshot gamble that failed to pay off. We took that gamble because 7 footers are rarer than hens teeth. Well we now have 2 of them with a season under their belts who could both start breaking out big time to the upside. How exciting is that?  :dance:

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 17, 2017, 12:14:03 PM
https://twitter.com/ValleyHoops/status/920334215534862336
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 18, 2017, 11:32:39 AM
For those thinking about attending the Purdue game this December. I'm definitely not going to miss that game or the Northwestern game.
https://twitter.com/ValparaiZone/status/920688073930878977
https://twitter.com/ValparaiZone/status/920688211722153985
https://twitter.com/ValparaiZone/status/920690164598562822
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: crusadermoe on October 18, 2017, 05:35:15 PM
 Good move!  Congrats to all who organized it.

I think we have the athletes to stay in the game. 
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 18, 2017, 08:22:00 PM
2017-2018 Team Photo
https://twitter.com/ValpoBasketball/status/920777886335950848
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on October 18, 2017, 08:57:39 PM
Who is #30?  I don't see him on the roster.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 18, 2017, 09:13:21 PM
That's Patrick Robinson (formerly of Detroit-Mercy). Still unclear if he has any eligibility left, but he's been practicing with team. I'm not sure if he transferred or just enrolled in classes to start his masters.

https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/920779160297136129
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on October 18, 2017, 09:13:59 PM
The walk-on, uneligible, can't remember his name.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: SanityLost17 on October 19, 2017, 09:44:36 AM
Burton is listed as being 4 inches taller then Bakari.   Sitting next to each other they look pretty much the same.   Burton must be all leg and no torso.   
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vufan75 on October 19, 2017, 01:16:54 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on October 18, 2017, 08:22:00 PM
2017-2018 Team Photo
https://twitter.com/ValpoBasketball/status/920777886335950848
Ran across a review of the MVC on Twitter. Solid review IMO. Should be a fun first year for Valpo MBB in a wide open conference. 

I continue my 32 conference preview series with a preview of the wide-open Missouri Vallley: #MVCHoops https://t.co/YxnaLop4rO

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Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: agibson on October 19, 2017, 03:11:14 PM
I see Wichita Sate is in the USA Today Coaches Poll top-10. Valpo's... not. Creighton's receiving votes. But not as many as Oakland, who with 19 points would be 35th, if I'm counting correctly.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 20, 2017, 10:04:50 AM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on October 19, 2017, 09:44:36 AM
Burton is listed as being 4 inches taller then Bakari.   Sitting next to each other they look pretty much the same.   Burton must be all leg and no torso.   

Side by side Joe is clearly taller.
https://twitter.com/jschoon33/status/777997510275133441
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 20, 2017, 10:51:18 AM
Loving the Valpo Basketball Gear
https://twitter.com/CoachLottich/status/921392348734590977
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bigmosmithfan1 on October 20, 2017, 02:10:06 PM
Hopefully we can get the names back on the jerseys this year...
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpo64 on October 20, 2017, 02:41:48 PM
Realizing not much of the entire uniform, home and away, is shown, they look good.  I especially like the shoes.  Now as  long as all the players wear the same one during game.  I could never figure out why different players would wear different shoes.   I think the yellow, excuse me, gold ones look great.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUBBFan on October 20, 2017, 09:17:23 PM
https://twitter.com/AlBillets/status/921540190476341250
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 20, 2017, 10:54:46 PM
Awesome! Thank you for sharing!

Definitely the most athletic team Valpo's ever had in my time as a fan.
https://twitter.com/AlBillets/status/921544787697848320

Joe Burton almost completely dunks over Patrick Robinson Jr! https://www.instagram.com/p/Baff7yeDOBP/
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpopal on October 22, 2017, 04:08:10 PM
I attended the open practice for season ticket holders, and I will agree with previous comments that this team seems very athletic—especially Golder and Burton—and fairly big (standing beside him, six players looked to be as tall or taller than Luke Gore). Tevonn and Max are built like tanks, and Linssen, the new addition from Germany, looks not only strong, but exhibits a good outside shot. Fazekas appears to be an excellent long-distance shooter, though we won't see him play until next year, which could be good because he looks like he needs to bulk up some between now and then. It is difficult to add much more since the practice was rather undisciplined and there wasn't an opportunity to see game-type plays.


On another note, the event was well done in terms of good food from Parea and organization distributing the season tickets. However, I would have liked a more structured practice, perhaps with a three-point competition, that would be entertaining and informative. Also, I wondered why there were no cheerleaders or pep band to add to the atmosphere.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: humbleopinion on October 22, 2017, 04:29:50 PM
When I read "most athletic" I distinguished the statement from "most talented."  There wasn't much shown during the open practice.  In a warmup drill the men shot layups and then moved out to the elbow.  At the elbow, less than 25% of the shots found the bottom of the net -- I wasn't encouraged by that.  Later there was a rather tedious period when several of the players did a self-styled unstructured dunk display, and a few of the many dunks actually were successfully completed.  I really can't say I know much more about the team after attending.

With as many new faces that were there, I had to use the internet to figure out who was who.  It would have nice to have been given a roster.  When the players were introduced, they could have flashed their names and background on the scoreboard.  The coaches just had the players step forward and we were told their names. We wer treated to seeing Ed Charbonnau's face on the big screen.

The food was good.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on October 22, 2017, 05:24:05 PM
Where's our high % outside shots coming from this year?  Is only Burton decent from outside?  If so, they'll just pressure him and let others try and hit the broadside of the barn.

I think lack of shooting was a top concern with last years team.  Outside of academic eligibility....
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on October 22, 2017, 05:31:03 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on October 22, 2017, 05:24:05 PM
Where's our high % outside shots coming from this year?  Is only Burton decent from outside?  If so, they'll just pressure him and let others try and hit the broadside of the barn.

I think lack of shooting was a top concern with last years team.  Outside of academic eligibility....

Burton 39% sophomore yr
Tevonn 29% last yr
Micah 29% last yr
Max 33% last yr
Kiser 11%
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Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on October 22, 2017, 05:34:56 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on October 22, 2017, 05:31:03 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on October 22, 2017, 05:24:05 PM
Where's our high % outside shots coming from this year?  Is only Burton decent from outside?  If so, they'll just pressure him and let others try and hit the broadside of the barn.

I think lack of shooting was a top concern with last years team.  Outside of academic eligibility....

Burton 39% sophomore yr
Tevonn 29% last yr
Micah 29% last yr
Max 33% last yr
Kiser 11%
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Golder 39% last yr, does he play at same time as Burton?  Or does he only give Tevonn a breather...when not doing that, giving Burton a breather in rare occasions?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on October 22, 2017, 05:36:22 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on October 22, 2017, 05:34:56 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on October 22, 2017, 05:31:03 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on October 22, 2017, 05:24:05 PM
Where's our high % outside shots coming from this year?  Is only Burton decent from outside?  If so, they'll just pressure him and let others try and hit the broadside of the barn.

I think lack of shooting was a top concern with last years team.  Outside of academic eligibility....

Burton 39% sophomore yr
Tevonn 29% last yr
Micah 29% last yr
Max 33% last yr
Kiser 11%
.
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.
.

Golder 39% last yr, does he play at same time as Burton?  Or does he only give Tevonn a breather...when not doing that, giving Burton a breather in rare occasions?

Just thought I'd point out this excellent conversation I'm having with myself.  Glad to hear outside thoughts...
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on October 22, 2017, 05:37:15 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on October 22, 2017, 05:24:05 PMWhere's our high % outside shots coming from this year? 

Good question.  Golder shot 39% from the 3 last year.  Max shot 33% last year.  I expect (not sure why though) that Bakari will fill it up.  Other?  Not really sure. I'm hoping Tevonn can step it up.  He shot 29% for the year but had his moments.  Went 4 of 9 versus Northern Kentucky but was 0 for 3 in his 25 point effort against Illinois.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpopal on October 23, 2017, 12:00:37 PM
A friend of mine is a photographer who usually shoots for Purdue, but does other universities and was invited to shoot the Xavier introduction of men and women players, "Musketeer Madness," which is an extraordinary event in front of a full arena. In fact, I was in awe of this celebration opening basketball season. When I looked at this, I put myself in the shoes of a potential recruit. If Valpo could create a "Midnight Madness" even partially as good as this, especially to celebrate entrance into the MVC, I'd be very happy. Following is a link to the women's half of the event:
https://pinolaphoto.com/2017/10/23/xavier-womens-basketball-at-musketeer-madness/https://pinolaphoto.com/2017/10/23/xavier-womens-basketball-at-musketeer-madness/ (https://pinolaphoto.com/2017/10/23/xavier-womens-basketball-at-musketeer-madness/)


Also, here is a link to many more incredible photos that include the men's amazing festivities (be sure to scroll down past the swimming and women's soccer photographs):
https://pinolaphotography.exposure.co/the-week-in-photos-88 (https://pinolaphotography.exposure.co/the-week-in-photos-88)
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: NativeCheesehead on October 23, 2017, 01:30:41 PM
We used to do a Midnight "Mayhem" in the late 90s / early aughts. That would have been a great thing to do for this year. I'm willing to give it the year, but thus far i've seen little sense of urgency to take advantage of the conference move, other than a catchy hashtag #ValpoInTheValley.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpopal on October 23, 2017, 02:40:40 PM
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on October 23, 2017, 01:30:41 PM
We used to do a Midnight "Mayhem" in the late 90s / early aughts. That would have been a great thing to do for this year. I'm willing to give it the year, but thus far i've seen little sense of urgency to take advantage of the conference move, other than a catchy hashtag #ValpoInTheValley.


Yes, an elaborate "Midnight Mayhem" to celebrate entry into the MVC would have been a no-brainer. Many on the forum have repeatedly mentioned in the past that we felt various opportunities available after Valpo went to the Sweet 16 unfortunately were squandered. It certainly appears history is repeating itself, and the university is not taking full advantage of the move to the MVC for promotion, publicity, fundraising, and facilities. Athletics has moved to a significantly higher conference ranked in the top ten, but VU's public relations efforts do not seem to have been equally elevated, and I fear another opportunity seems to be slipping away.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: EddieCabot on October 23, 2017, 03:27:26 PM
Quote from: vu72 on October 22, 2017, 05:37:15 PMI expect (not sure why though) that Bakari will fill it up.

I think your optimism may come from the fact that he's had 18 months since his last college game to work on his shooting stroke.  Transfers often make big improvements to their games during redshirt seasons.  Shooting is merely technique and repetition, so I too expect him to be a reliable shooter.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: csd72 on October 23, 2017, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: valpopal on October 23, 2017, 12:00:37 PM
A friend of mine is a photographer who usually shoots for Purdue, but does other universities and was invited to shoot the Xavier introduction of men and women players, "Musketeer Madness," which is an extraordinary event in front of a full arena. In fact, I was in awe of this celebration opening basketball season. When I looked at this, I put myself in the shoes of a potential recruit. If Valpo could create a "Midnight Madness" even partially as good as this, especially to celebrate entrance into the MVC, I'd be very happy. Following is a link to the women's half of the event:
https://pinolaphoto.com/2017/10/23/xavier-womens-basketball-at-musketeer-madness/https://pinolaphoto.com/2017/10/23/xavier-womens-basketball-at-musketeer-madness/ (https://pinolaphoto.com/2017/10/23/xavier-womens-basketball-at-musketeer-madness/)


Also, here is a link to many more incredible photos that include the men's amazing festivities (be sure to scroll down past the swimming and women's soccer photographs):
https://pinolaphotography.exposure.co/the-week-in-photos-88 (https://pinolaphotography.exposure.co/the-week-in-photos-88)

Well don't scroll too fast past the swimming and soccer photos.  ;)
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpopal on October 23, 2017, 08:23:06 PM
Quote from: csd72 on October 23, 2017, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: valpopal on October 23, 2017, 12:00:37 PM
A friend of mine is a photographer who usually shoots for Purdue, but does other universities and was invited to shoot the Xavier introduction of men and women players, "Musketeer Madness," which is an extraordinary event in front of a full arena. In fact, I was in awe of this celebration opening basketball season. When I looked at this, I put myself in the shoes of a potential recruit. If Valpo could create a "Midnight Madness" even partially as good as this, especially to celebrate entrance into the MVC, I'd be very happy. Following is a link to the women's half of the event:
https://pinolaphoto.com/2017/10/23/xavier-womens-basketball-at-musketeer-madness/https://pinolaphoto.com/2017/10/23/xavier-womens-basketball-at-musketeer-madness/ (https://pinolaphoto.com/2017/10/23/xavier-womens-basketball-at-musketeer-madness/)


Also, here is a link to many more incredible photos that include the men's amazing festivities (be sure to scroll down past the swimming and women's soccer photographs):
https://pinolaphotography.exposure.co/the-week-in-photos-88 (https://pinolaphotography.exposure.co/the-week-in-photos-88)

Well don't scroll too fast past the swimming and soccer photos.  ;)


True, they're all terrific!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 24, 2017, 12:03:58 AM
Quote from: vu72 on October 22, 2017, 05:37:15 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on October 22, 2017, 05:24:05 PMWhere's our high % outside shots coming from this year?

Good question.  Golder shot 39% from the 3 last year.  Max shot 33% last year.  I expect (not sure why though) that Bakari will fill it up.  Other?  Not really sure. I'm hoping Tevonn can step it up.  He shot 29% for the year but had his moments.  Went 4 of 9 versus Northern Kentucky but was 0 for 3 in his 25 point effort against Illinois.



Paul & Parker break down the Valpo roster: 22:25-36:30

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_a33ea8b8-b2cb-11e7-8117-ebddbce43123.html

They were talking about who would take the last shot and when they mentioned Bakari they weren't sure if he's a scorer. Parker said he heard he's play maker and runs the offense but wasn't sure if he's a pure scorer.

One thing that got me excited is that the staff thinks Mileek can develop into a All-Conf type player by the end of his college career.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: NativeCheesehead on October 24, 2017, 07:46:58 AM
I can't recall a more interesting and unknown year since the 98-99 season. Expectations are neither low nor high, and we have a ton of new pieces that will no doubt be shuffled and re shuffled as the year progresses. As a fan, these seasons can actually be the most fun to watch.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on October 24, 2017, 08:53:31 AM
Taking a cautious road here for both the players and fans.  I anticipate, as do others, that it will take a while for this unit to jell.  Many mistakes and miscommunications will occur along the way. Hopefully, those will trend downward as the OOC season progresses.   None of us can get down, however.  The main thing I am hoping for is that players (and fans too)  continually believe in and support Matt's process and keep the faith in the face of the adversity that will likely appear in the early going.   
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 24, 2017, 12:49:43 PM
QuoteQuote from: JBC1824 on October 15, 2017, 07:03:49 PM
Hello everyone, new to the forum. Not sure if this has been discussed yet, but I'd be interested to know what people think regarding what the depth chart might look like this season. Here's my breakdown:

PG Bakari, Joseph, Bradford
SG Walker, Golder
SF Burton, Kiser
PF Hazen, Linssen, McMillan 
C Sorolla, Smits

Wow, all these conversations about our newly eligible transfers and I completely forgot how young we are at PF.  Hazen hasn't been talked about since signing, but he really is our top PF available.

Or do we think Burton plays 50% SF and 50% PF?  Still means big minutes for the freshmen trio. 🍼👶🏻

The biggest question mark for this season is the 4. Unsurprisingly Coach says he'll rotating guys.

It'll be curious to see who of the group of Linssen/Hazen/McMillan steps up earns an increased role this season.

I remember Jubril's freshman year he played a ton of minutes just because he was reliable from the beginning.
https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/922873351382667266
https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/922873497759768576
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on October 24, 2017, 01:36:26 PM
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on October 23, 2017, 01:30:41 PM
We used to do a Midnight "Mayhem" in the late 90s / early aughts. That would have been a great thing to do for this year. I'm willing to give it the year, but thus far i've seen little sense of urgency to take advantage of the conference move, other than a catchy hashtag #ValpoInTheValley.

You're right, a Midnight Madness /Mayhem event this year would have made a lot of sense. That said, it could be even more meaningful next year after having won the conference regular season and tournament championships in our inagural season in the MVC. (No wink face by design).
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: NativeCheesehead on October 24, 2017, 02:04:01 PM
Good Point, wh, and this goes in tandem with my post on the faculties thread. When presented with binary, in the moment decisions, such as coaching hires, conference changes, etc, the powers that be at Vu have tended to make very good decisions, as time has borne out thus far.

What we don't see much of is opportunistic thinking. I recall being a student during the Sweet 16 run and being surprised in the following two years before my graduation that it seemed little changed in the way of marketing and promotions. Different time, different pres and AD, but those same problems seem to have carried over.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 25, 2017, 10:35:48 PM
I'm really looking forward to watching Tevonn play next season!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYRSMeVQLfE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyh6xfzyrBQ
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: ValpoDad89 on October 26, 2017, 05:10:05 AM
CBS just did the annual rankings of all D1 Basketball teams. Valpo came in at #160. MVC teams ahead of them in order were: Mo State, Loyola, Illinois State, Northern Iowa and Southern Illinois. So basically 6th. Interesting they have Oakland coming in at #45 and have UIC, Northern Kentucky and Wright State ranked ahead. This year they ar saying Valpo would be 5th in the conference. I think they're terribly underestimating this team but rather be under the radar.

Other teams of note due to OOC scheduling or regional ties:
Northwestern 14
Purdue 24
Vandy 46
Butler 54
Belmont 90
Ball state 103
Stamford 137
Murray State 154
Indiana State 172

Hopefully those big dogs up top help keep RPI respectable.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ranking-all-351-college-basketball-teams-from-duke-to-alabama-a-m/

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 26, 2017, 02:21:38 PM
Thoughts? I said yes we will make the postseason. I'm not expecting that an NCAA Tournament appearance but I am expecting we make either the CBI or CIT Tournament with upside for a NIT appearance.

The 2013-2014 Valpo Team was very young led by LaVonte Dority made the CIT that year. I think this team absolutely has the potential make a postseason tournament.

https://twitter.com/happeninghoops/status/923598239638675458
https://twitter.com/happeninghoops/status/923598447856451584
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 26, 2017, 02:49:06 PM
Interesting. Obviously Lexus, Chandler, & Middleton are not part of the team anymore but they said they'd be updating it soon.

https://twitter.com/YaleSportsGroup/status/923621184910123008
https://twitter.com/YaleSportsGroup/status/923630971127324673

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 27, 2017, 10:23:56 AM
 ;D ;D ;D If you get a chance listen to Paul's interview with Barry Hinson. He shares his thoughts about the Valpo Student Section  ;D ;D starts at 39:30 if you want to give a listen. I remember someone mentioning Hinson got into some dust ups with the student section in his time at Oral Roberts.
http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_4d07fdfc-ba5d-11e7-8e65-5bccbef8c7ad.html
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 28, 2017, 02:44:45 PM
Sounds like Valpo won the scrimmage against Northern Illinois! Also really good to hear Bakari looks good! Hopefully we hear a few more details of how guys looked.
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/924358537869955079
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 28, 2017, 03:34:45 PM
One of Parker Hazen's friend tweeted out that Parker started in the closed scrimmage against NIU. I'm assuming he started at the 4 position, which has been the biggest question mark for Valpo Basketball going into the season.
https://twitter.com/bechtold_5/status/924341048167542786
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: EddieCabot on October 28, 2017, 07:08:48 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on October 28, 2017, 02:44:45 PM
Sounds like Valpo won the scrimmage against Northern Illinois! Also really good to hear Bakari looks good! Hopefully we hear a few more details of how guys looked.
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/924358537869955079

Not surprised that Bakari did well as I've been touting him.  Still can't believe that Nebraska didn't give him a opportunity to play as a freshman.  Coach Miles will be regretting that for the next three years as Nebraska continues to occupy the Big Ten cellar.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 28, 2017, 07:35:12 PM
Quote from: EddieCabot on October 28, 2017, 07:08:48 PM
Not surprised that Bakari did well as I've been touting him.  Still can't believe that Nebraska didn't give him a opportunity to play as a freshman.  Coach Miles will be regretting that for the next three years as Nebraska continues to occupy the Big Ten cellar.

Miles might not be the coach at Nebraska much longer. They've been underperforming there and they just hired a new AD and he may want his own guy.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 28, 2017, 08:19:30 PM
Some very sad news. Coach Ragland's father passed away earlier this week. Praying for him and his family. 🙏
https://twitter.com/CoachLansing/status/924077749798567936
https://twitter.com/CoachZimba/status/924244754371559424
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on October 30, 2017, 11:17:40 PM
A good article about Bakari & Joe.
http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/joe-burton-bakari-evelyn-beginning-new-era-at-valparaiso/article_e54efbd4-44b6-5a88-a99a-d9c68d5cd936.html
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/925178036726697985
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on October 31, 2017, 02:18:18 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on October 30, 2017, 11:17:40 PM
A good article about Bakari & Joe.
http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/joe-burton-bakari-evelyn-beginning-new-era-at-valparaiso/article_e54efbd4-44b6-5a88-a99a-d9c68d5cd936.html
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/925178036726697985

Good article by PO! These guys have waited patiently for their turn to represent this great program. Wishing them much happiness and success!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 01, 2017, 07:09:57 PM
A good article by Michael featuring this upcoming season for Tevonn Walker.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-mens-basketball-valparaiso-tevonn-walker-st-1102-20171101-story.html
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 04, 2017, 07:52:11 PM
Micah Bradford Injury Update:
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/926963774569009152
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/926888106451759110
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: Valpower on November 05, 2017, 01:33:18 AM
I hope Micah's injury is not serious.  I was very impressed with his offensive game against Robert Morris (though I didn't pay as close attention to his defense) and I get the feeling I may be somewhat alone. There was faint praise for him in the RMU game thread after his 17-pt, 5-rebound, 2-steal, 1-block performance and I suspect it's because everybody is more interested in Bakari's performance and potential and a little down on Micah's still-slight frame. Given what I saw of his speed and shooting, I gotta say I don't worry about his bulk or his status as a starter; I just want him available as a unique piece of a diverse attack.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 05, 2017, 01:45:43 AM
Quote from: Valpower on November 05, 2017, 01:33:18 AM
I hope Micah's injury is not serious.  I was very impressed with his offensive game against Robert Morris (though I didn't pay as close attention to his defense) and I get the feeling I may be somewhat alone. There was faint praise for him in the RMU game thread after his 17-pt, 5-rebound, 2-steal, 1-block performance and I suspect it's because everybody is more interested in Bakari's performance and potential and a little down on Micah's still-slight frame. Given what I saw of his speed and shooting, I gotta say I don't worry about his bulk or his status as a starter; I just want him available as a unique piece of a diverse attack.

Your definitely not alone. He looked good out there. He may have slightly overshadowed because everyone was watching all the new guys though. What really stood out to me was his overall composure and confidence on the court more then anything. I'm not going to get too excite because he was playing against D2 competition but regardless he looked noticeably better. I want to see how he looks against better and stronger athletes defending him before I personally get too excited.

Fingers crossed this injury won't be a major set back. Max apparently didn't have the best game today at the PG position. That back up 1 guard role is up for grabs which is a sizable amount of minutes. Micah may play a blend of 1 and 2 this year.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on November 05, 2017, 09:04:59 AM
Quote from: Valpower on November 05, 2017, 01:33:18 AM
I hope Micah's injury is not serious.  I was very impressed with his offensive game against Robert Morris (though I didn't pay as close attention to his defense) and I get the feeling I may be somewhat alone. There was faint praise for him in the RMU game thread after his 17-pt, 5-rebound, 2-steal, 1-block performance and I suspect it's because everybody is more interested in Bakari's performance and potential and a little down on Micah's still-slight frame. Given what I saw of his speed and shooting, I gotta say I don't worry about his bulk or his status as a starter; I just want him available as a unique piece of a diverse attack.

Does anyone else see Micah as a shoot first PG?  He has a lot to prove to ppl with my logic.  The PG is supposed to move the offense and create ONLY at opportune times do they take a shot immediately after coming up court.

I really like Micah's skill set, but he takes ill advised shots too much for my liking.  Because he has a quick release he thinks the whole floor makes him open.

Bakari on the other hand dishes the ball first.  Season is young, but he passes on his drives often.  Creating easy shots.  I don't see this with Micah yet.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: Valpower on November 05, 2017, 11:40:17 AM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on November 05, 2017, 09:04:59 AM
Quote from: Valpower on November 05, 2017, 01:33:18 AM
I hope Micah's injury is not serious.  I was very impressed with his offensive game against Robert Morris (though I didn't pay as close attention to his defense) and I get the feeling I may be somewhat alone. There was faint praise for him in the RMU game thread after his 17-pt, 5-rebound, 2-steal, 1-block performance and I suspect it's because everybody is more interested in Bakari's performance and potential and a little down on Micah's still-slight frame. Given what I saw of his speed and shooting, I gotta say I don't worry about his bulk or his status as a starter; I just want him available as a unique piece of a diverse attack.

Does anyone else see Micah as a shoot first PG?  He has a lot to prove to ppl with my logic.  The PG is supposed to move the offense and create ONLY at opportune times do they take a shot immediately after coming up court.

I really like Micah's skill set, but he takes ill advised shots too much for my liking.  Because he has a quick release he thinks the whole floor makes him open.

Bakari on the other hand dishes the ball first.  Season is young, but he passes on his drives often.  Creating easy shots.  I don't see this with Micah yet.
What I'd like to see him as is a PG you could insert into the game when you want to speed up the tempo so that an opposition that crashes the offensive boards or presses has an occasional price to pay. Nobody wants him taking ill-advised shots, scoring lots of points at a low percentage, or making his teammates flat-footed, but I'd say that if his primary asset is speed versus Bakari's court-vision (and I'm not even certain of this), I wouldn't want to mold both of them into the same archetypical point guard.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on November 05, 2017, 12:20:06 PM
If Bakari is our first PG option and Tevonn is our shooting guard this season, who is next in line to back up each -- Max for Bakari and maybe that 'shooting PG' Fieldgoodie alludes to to keep the up Tevonn's offensive pressure?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 05, 2017, 01:08:25 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on November 05, 2017, 12:20:06 PM
If Bakari is our first PG option and Tevonn is our shooting guard this season, who is next in line to back up each -- Max for Bakari and maybe that 'shooting PG' Fieldgoodie alludes to to keep the up Tevonn's offensive pressure?

I think Micah will be on the court at the same as Bakari & Max at certain points this season, when Tevonn is getting a rest at SG. I think Golder will also be playing the that swing player role.

This team isn't that experienced but its still deep. We haven't had this kind of depth since the 2015-2016 team. The only difference was that team had a ton of experience on the bench, these guys not so much. There will be growing pains with this group.

Tevonn looked REALLY good in that first game. I didn't see the 2nd game but it sounds like he was scoring with ease against CSU. If Coach Lottich really wanted to run CSU out their own gym he probably could have left the starters in longer but with these exhibitions he was getting everyone in the game to probably experiment how certain players mix and match together. At one point Walker scored nine straight points in 1 minute and 30 secs and finished with a game high of 15 points and 10 rebounds.

Things that need to be cleaned is the turnovers and free throw shooting with this team. I'd also like to see the young players develop better shot selection but that going to happen and they'll get better with more experience and once everyone discovers their role.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on November 05, 2017, 02:11:50 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on November 05, 2017, 01:08:25 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on November 05, 2017, 12:20:06 PM
If Bakari is our first PG option and Tevonn is our shooting guard this season, who is next in line to back up each -- Max for Bakari and maybe that 'shooting PG' Fieldgoodie alludes to to keep the up Tevonn's offensive pressure?

I think Micah will be on the court at the same as Bakari & Max at certain points this season, when Tevonn is getting a rest at SG. I think Golder will also be playing the that swing player role.

This team isn't that experienced but its still deep. We haven't had this kind of depth since the 2015-2016 team. The only difference was that team had a ton of experience on the bench, these guys not so much. There will be growing pains with this group.

Tevonn looked REALLY good in that first game. I didn't see the 2nd game but it sounds like he was scoring with ease against CSU. If Coach Lottich really wanted to run CSU out their own gym he probably could have left the starters in longer but with these exhibitions he was getting everyone in the game to probably experiment how certain players mix and match together. At one point Walker scored nine straight points in 1 minute and 30 secs and finished with a game high of 15 points and 10 rebounds.

Things that need to be cleaned is the turnovers and free throw shooting with this team. I'd also like to see the young players develop better shot selection but that going to happen and they'll get better with more experience and once everyone discovers their role.

Solid points but Tevonn shot poorly by the numbers, something like 6/16 FG.  2/5 three pointers.  So that means his 2-point FG was around 4/11.  He undoubtedly defended like a champ and rebounded big time.

Did CSU defend him well or was there a lid on the basket in the first half before the 9 pt run in the 2nd?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on November 05, 2017, 11:33:27 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on November 05, 2017, 02:11:50 PMDid CSU defend him well or was there a lid on the basket in the first half before the 9 pt run in the 2nd?

If I remember correctly we missed a lot of close in shots, but because we greatly out rebounded CSU, Valpo was able to get those points on second and third attempts.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 06, 2017, 06:57:14 PM
https://twitter.com/MattGlenesk/status/927696176379437056

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/basketball/2017/11/06/rocky-ground-well-valparaiso-basketball-still-valparaiso-basketball/837001001/

On rocky ground? Well, Valparaiso basketball is still Valparaiso basketball
By: Matthew VanTryon, matthew.vantryon@indystar.com
Published Nov. 6, 2017


On the surface, the Valparaiso basketball program looks to be on rocky ground this season.

Gone is Alec Peters, the reigning Horizon League Player of the Year who averaged 23 points and 10.1 rebounds last season before being drafted by the Phoenix Suns.

Gone is Shane Hammink, who averaged 15.1 points.

Gone is the Horizon League, where the Crusaders departed having won five of the last six regular season titles and averaged 24 wins over the past seven seasons.

What's left? Well, Valpo is still Valpo. And that goes a long way.

"There's an expectation to win around here. We don't shy away from it," Crusaders coach Matt Lottich said.......

...............

(Give the rest a click & a read)
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on November 06, 2017, 08:18:04 PM
Great article. Even nicer that it came from outside our NW Indiana area.  The thoughts are so spot on. When kidslike Tevonn state that winning is expected, then you know we have arrived
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 07, 2017, 07:23:07 PM
https://twitter.com/PostTribSports/status/928056579752067078
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on November 07, 2017, 07:52:56 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on November 07, 2017, 07:23:07 PM
https://twitter.com/PostTribSports/status/928056579752067078

Ecstatic with coaches decision to leave the last 2018/19 scholarship open for HOME RUN or TRANSFER.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 07, 2017, 08:05:26 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on November 07, 2017, 07:52:56 PM
Decision to leave the last 2018/19 scholarship open for HOME RUN or TRANSFER.
I was happy to hear this too. Hopefully it pays off and we land a high ceiling guy.

It was interesting to hear that Coach Lottich almost red-shirted Linssen or McMillan. Probably the 2 guys that were the most green and could have used an extra year to sit, learn and develop. Of course when you sit them there is a higher likelihood a player may decide to become a grad-transfer down the road when they are suppose to be at their peak development as a 5th year senior.
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/928045695935840256
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/928045824944345089
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/928045923070103553
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/928046157120638976
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: zvillehaze on November 07, 2017, 08:56:14 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on November 06, 2017, 08:18:04 PM
Great article. Even nicer that it came from outside our NW Indiana area.  The thoughts are so spit on. When kidslike Tevonn state that winn8n* is expected, then you know we have arrived

Indy Star has run a few nice Valpo related articles in the last week.  Kudos to the author of the Valpo preview ... he's a good writer and very well educated.  :-X
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 07, 2017, 11:41:51 PM
Coach Lottich had a good radio interview with a Fort Wayne based sports radio station ESPN 1380/100.9

https://twitter.com/ESPN1380/status/928037182937460736

Coach said in the interview that Derrik is the second best passer on the team and can step back and hit a 3. It's pretty obvious Derrik is a great passer for a big guy but I wonder if we're going to see him attempt some 3's this year. Derrik only took 3 shots beyond the arc last season but I've seen him make 3's during pre-game shoot around. He actually has a pretty good looking shot for a big guy.

I've always hoped Derrik could turn into a Alec Brown (Green Bay) type players by the end of his college career. Brown's freshman year (2-6 from 3), sophomore (4-19 from 3), junior (30-70 from 3), & his senior year (42-100 from 3). I'm sure he has that type of game in his arsenal but it would be awesome he followed a similar development trajectory.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 08, 2017, 08:56:50 AM
https://twitter.com/ValleyHoops/status/928273741703974913
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 08, 2017, 02:57:52 PM
https://twitter.com/theronjohn1/status/928320997803134976
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on November 08, 2017, 03:36:14 PM
Hmmm My conference's flagship program is leaving I can choose between a team with 85 wins over the past 4 years a promising D2 team looking to move up or a team with 43 wins over the same period. Better go with the last option because of that market size. That'll boost the League's  profile and stave off the descent into low-major status. Ladies and gentlemen, Jon LeCrone, Horizon League commissioner. Isn't it amazing to think that the league we LEFT the mid con for that used to challenge the one we're in now is in serious danger of being PASSED by the old Mid Con? Sad days brought on by some really bad leadership
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 08, 2017, 03:52:09 PM
Horizon League HQ must be praying the MVC chooses not to expand and pick off another one of their schools. That was one of the theories of why the HL was suing the MVC and going so hard after Valpo once we left because they want to send a warning shot against poaching another school. The Horizon League have 3 good teams this season. OU/NKU/UIC should beat up the rest HL because its not very deep. UWM fans are hoping the MVC Presidents/ADs want them. I'm sure NKU is hoping they get consideration also.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on November 08, 2017, 04:37:54 PM
I am CERTAIN NKU will get consideration. I will be surprised and honestly a little upset if they aren't the third call from the MVC to be the companion addition with Murray State behind SLU and Belmont It just makes so much sense In a lot of ways they make more sense than UWM who I must admit has carved themselves out a nice little TV deal  UWM would need a partner like Green Bay or UIC to be viable and based on geographic fit alone I would expect ORU UALR or schools in Texas to be considered before anyone outside of that initial top 3 If we can't bring Murray State in with a viable built in travel partner then the goal will be to get a partner for Missouri State so that Southern Illinois can partner with Murray State Because there's no way they're going to disregard the mutual interest between the MVC and the Racers to go with some other combo like UIC and UWM or the Dakotas NKU will be the call and I am fairly certain that they will accept and join with Murray State
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on November 08, 2017, 06:26:53 PM
Season preview!!

http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2017-18/17762/valpo-mens-basketball-season-preview/#.WgOgqWhSzIU
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on November 08, 2017, 07:33:13 PM
And they didn't even mention that we've got Ryan Fazekas waiting in reserve for next year. I am SO EXCITED for the present and future of this team! We're going to be good and really tough to play against this year but We'd better schedule our behinds off next season because I think the Crusaders are going to be REALLY GOOD next year
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on November 08, 2017, 09:22:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc4cmc45AuI&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpospartan on November 08, 2017, 10:28:35 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on November 08, 2017, 08:56:50 AM
https://twitter.com/ValleyHoops/status/928273741703974913
I looked at the guide( NBCSC, ch 200) for the last 3 days/times, and none showed this show.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on November 09, 2017, 07:10:38 AM
I saw it. It aired on NBCSChicago right when the tweet said it would. Very impressed with the coverage the MVC affords its members, but it didn't have a ton of new information for those who have followed closely this offseason. Recap of the media poll thoughts from the coaches on schedules and players and such and an interview with Commissioner Elgin Very little mentioned on expansion just that they were considering a 12 team format while the P5 appears to be considering 16 teams which Elgin says will have a major ripple effect throughout division I though he did not mention how he felt it would affect the MVC specifically
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpo64 on November 09, 2017, 12:04:04 PM
Regarding Matt's interview on the MVC Pre season program, I love his approach in his pre-season  discussions in that he never discloses his hand, names, expectations, etc.  The same was true in his Ft. Wayne radio interview.  Keep 'em guessing!  I think he learned that from Bryce...and it includes not giving out recruiting info.  Love it!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 09, 2017, 12:31:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVZJ_VFaw_Q

Coach Lottich's face at 4:20 when Todd said, "let's face it your going to win these games" lol. You could almost see him cringe inside. Such a coaches mentality to not take anything for granted and that there are no guarantees in college basketball.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 09, 2017, 02:20:57 PM
If your from the St. Louis/central-southern Illinois area.
https://twitter.com/ValpoAlumni/status/925316535140454400
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on November 09, 2017, 05:12:22 PM
[tweet]928749102405472261[/tweet]

I asked Paul's question a couple of weeks ago on this forum.  His article seems to go in the same direction.  The fact that Hazen  pulled down 10 RBs in one of the first two games says something.  Nobody is Alec, but someone can be themselves and establish a totally separate ID that is just as impactful.  I think I will be  a Hazen  guy!  The difference will be quite simple:  WORK ETHIC.  Nobody out worked AP (and still got good grades).

Oh, BTW, CHARACTER is another thing to factor in.  AP had it big time. PH, please follow in AP's footsteps.  You will be a much better person, regardless of your atheltic accomplishments if you do.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 11, 2017, 12:32:31 AM
https://twitter.com/colinn_thompson/status/929161845440688128
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 12, 2017, 05:57:50 PM
It's like Markus Golder has springs in his legs. Major bounce.
https://twitter.com/TheReal_MG3/status/929858477920604161
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 12, 2017, 08:14:26 PM
https://twitter.com/jbuckets25/status/929884650561875969
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 12, 2017, 09:28:53 PM
https://twitter.com/NWINews/status/929867570416455680

Max effort: Senior guard Joseph works to set tone for Valparaiso
By: Michael Osipoff
Post-Tribune

Nov 12, 2017

Max Joseph couldn't get it out of his head for a prolonged period of time.

The way last season ended dominated the thoughts of Valparaiso's senior guard. It still does, to a degree, serving as a source of motivation.

Joseph realizes various factors outside the Crusaders' control played a major role. But he was more concerned about the parts within his grasp.

"I didn't really want to see anybody, I kept to myself more," Joseph said. "It was a quick depression.

"Before you go to sleep and when you wake up, you think about all the little things you missed. Watching film, you see all the little things — I should've done this, I should've done that. The small details, you want to make sure you take care of those this year so we can go further."

Valparaiso coach Matt Lottich vividly recalls his exit meeting with Joseph.

........... (Give it a click & a read) http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-mens-basketball-valparaiso-max-joseph-st-1113-20171112-story.html
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on November 13, 2017, 01:21:16 PM
So says Osipoff, the propagandist for Maravilla and Don Bosco Prep. I will never forgive Osipoff for betraying VU in this way.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on November 13, 2017, 01:32:35 PM
Quote from: bbtds on November 13, 2017, 01:21:16 PM
So says Osipoff, the propagandist for Maravilla and Don Bosco Prep. I will never forgive Osipoff for betraying VU in this way.

Wait!  Wasn't it the other Trib guy who was the Don Bosco apologist? Hanson or Hutton or some name like that?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: covufan on November 13, 2017, 01:41:15 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on November 11, 2017, 12:32:31 AM
https://twitter.com/colinn_thompson/status/929161845440688128

I hope we didn't make this banner.  If the HL sent it to us, maybe the 'L' was intentionally omitted because we 'left' the HL?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 13, 2017, 02:05:46 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on November 13, 2017, 01:32:35 PM
Quote from: bbtds on November 13, 2017, 01:21:16 PM
So says Osipoff, the propagandist for Maravilla and Don Bosco Prep. I will never forgive Osipoff for betraying VU in this way.

Wait!  Wasn't it the other Trib guy who was the Don Bosco apologist? Hanson or Hutton or some name like that?

It was Hutton. I was pretty pissed at the time when he wrote that "puff piece" for Maravilla. Hutton had the nerve to say that scumbag Maravilla suffered the wrath of VU fans and actually said he "helped" (forced) David Skara to transfer. A longtime columnist should be better then that. Ironically a former Valpo Basketball player is the Head Coach of the Don Bosco Prep Team, Jason Hawkins. I've met Jason at a game in the past and he seemed like a really nice guy. I'm not sure he was involved in that whole situation. Maravilla is the CEO & also has his sleazy agency business.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on November 13, 2017, 02:52:21 PM
I thought so.  Mike Osipoff and Paul are friends and both cover Valpo extensivelyl and fairly.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on November 13, 2017, 03:14:36 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on November 13, 2017, 02:52:21 PM
I thought so.  Mike Osipoff and Paul are friends and both cover Valpo extensivelyl and fairly.

My apologies to Osipoff. My wrath should be properly directed at Hutton. Unfortunately because he also works for the other newspaper/news organization he is tainted by Hutton through affiliation.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: Pgmado on November 13, 2017, 03:18:01 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on November 13, 2017, 02:52:21 PMI thought so.  Mike Osipoff and Paul are friends and both cover Valpo extensivelyl and fairly.

Oz is a fantastic guy and excellent reporter. His piece about Joe Burton and Houston was outstanding. Loved the quotes about the shoes.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 14, 2017, 10:02:58 AM
https://twitter.com/ValpoAlumni/status/930157578713272322

https://alumni.valpo.edu/s/1347/17/page-1col.aspx?sid=1347&gid=1&pgid=2186&cid=5092&ecid=5092&crid=0&calpgid=2012&calcid=4502

Valpo Club of Northwest Indiana- Bus Trip to Valpo v. Purdue Boilermakers

UPDATE: Seats added!

Join Valpo alumni, students, and friends in cheering on the Crusaders as they take on the Boilermakers at Mackey Arena in West Lafayette! We will depart from the Harre Union at 2:00 p.m. CST. Tip-off is at 5:30 CST (6:30 p.m. EST), and we will return to the university at approximately 9:00 p.m. CST.

Go Valpo!

Pricing:
-Student ticket and bus ride: $20
-G.O.L.D. (Graduates of the Last Decade) alumni ticket and bus ride: $25
-General alumni and friends ticket and bus ride: $30

Please call Alumni Engagement at 219-464-5142 to be put on the list!

To purchase a game ticket without the bus ride, please contact the athletics ticketing office at 219-464-5233.

Contact Information
Primary Contact

Alumni Engagement
1100 S. Campus Drive
Loke Hall
Valparaiso, IN 46383
219-464-5142
alumni@valpo.edu
Date & Location
Date: 12/7/2017
Time: 2:00 PM to 9:00 PM
Location: Harre Union
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 14, 2017, 01:43:18 PM
I have 2 Random Questions for Northwest Indiana Natives & long time fans of the program:

1. Is Valparaiso part of the "The Region"? And please define the region. I see NWI native arguing about this all the time. Dakich tweets about this literally bi-weekly.

2. What is Dakich's problem with the Drew's? I've been following Valpo Basketball long enough to know he's pretty lukewarm about Valpo. I've recently heard from a few different people (not Valpo supporters) say that he has mentioned the rumor in the past that Homer Drew paid some Euro players to come to Valpo back in the day which I find absolutely laughable & idiotic. Where they hell did that rumor even start? It sounds like a rumor started by disgruntled fans of other programs that were jealous that Valpo got some Media Shine back in the day.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on November 14, 2017, 01:49:02 PM
Dan Dakich is a piddly bitter little man with a massive ego problem who never got over the fact that he couldn't hack it as a coach. His opinions really aren't worth listening to
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 14, 2017, 01:59:19 PM
Dakich does have some bitter takes even about his own alma mater. I actually don't mind the guy and he does have some interesting opinions. I find his twitter beefs with Frank Kaminsky hilarious. I'm just curious what his beef is with the Drew's?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bigmosmithfan1 on November 14, 2017, 02:03:11 PM
Ah yes, the lovely "only Lake County counts as The Region" hot takes. They never get old, and they never cease to be wrong.

Do you get Chicago TV/radio? Is your clock on Central time? Can you hop on the South Shore and commute to the city every morning? Are there Lake Michigan beaches in your county? Guess what, you're in The Region.


Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on November 14, 2017, 02:10:26 PM
Nailed it This post says all that needs to be said on this topic (the post above me RE: What is The Region? It is 100% spot on
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: humbleopinion on November 14, 2017, 03:20:45 PM
When I was growing up in the Valpo in the 60's, I never even knew the term "region."  My impression was that it ended around Portage.  Now it has expanded to include Porter County.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: crusaderjoe on November 14, 2017, 03:28:30 PM
Having lived in NWI for years (born and raised), my understanding of the "Region" is that the term never incorporated all of Northwest Indiana.  Instead, the term incorporated both socioeconomic and geographical attributes—that is, the traditional "Region" were those areas that were near or adjoining to the Grand Calumet and Little Calumet Rivers geographically (Calumet River Region) and were generally areas that were far more urban and industrial comparatively to other Indiana towns. I've always thought of northern Lake County, such as Whiting, East Chicago, Hammond, Gary and extreme northern/northwestern Porter County (Portage, Burns Harbor) as part of the true "Region", and in Lake County specifically, areas north of or near Route 30 would also qualify.  I suppose what constitutes the "Region" has changed over the years to include more areas of NWI with the overall growth of the area.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: humbleopinion on November 14, 2017, 04:26:59 PM
Quote from: crusaderjoe on November 14, 2017, 03:28:30 PM
Having lived in NWI for years (born and raised), my understanding of the "Region" is that the term never incorporated all of Northwest Indiana.  Instead, the term incorporated both socioeconomic and geographical attributes—that is, the traditional "Region" were those areas that were near or adjoining to the Grand Calumet and Little Calumet Rivers geographically (Calumet River Region) and were generally areas that were far more urban and industrial comparatively to other Indiana towns. I've always thought of northern Lake County, such as Whiting, East Chicago, Hammond, Gary and extreme northern/northwestern Porter County (Portage, Burns Harbor) as part of the true "Region", and in Lake County specifically, areas north of or near Route 30 would also qualify.  I suppose what constitutes the "Region" has changed over the years to include more areas of NWI with the overall growth of the area.


That's my understanding as well.

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on November 14, 2017, 04:58:25 PM
Which is more important branding/image-wise: an amorphous "the region" or an easily identifiable Northwest Indiana?

If you take the rectangular state of Indiana and parse it into 9 geographic areas (NWI, NCI, NEI /  WCI, CI, ECI / SWI, SCI, and SEI), I would say that Valpo is NWI's sole D-I MBB team and should be branded as such. ND is in NCI (and, of course, national) and Fort Wayne is NEI.  For branding and geographic identity, I wouldn't care about anybody south of us.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUBBFan on November 14, 2017, 06:57:15 PM

Quote from: humbleopinion on November 14, 2017, 04:26:59 PM
Quote from: crusaderjoe on November 14, 2017, 03:28:30 PMHaving lived in NWI for years (born and raised), my understanding of the "Region" is that the term never incorporated all of Northwest Indiana.  Instead, the term incorporated both socioeconomic and geographical attributes—that is, the traditional "Region" were those areas that were near or adjoining to the Grand Calumet and Little Calumet Rivers geographically (Calumet River Region) and were generally areas that were far more urban and industrial comparatively to other Indiana towns. I've always thought of northern Lake County, such as Whiting, East Chicago, Hammond, Gary and extreme northern/northwestern Porter County (Portage, Burns Harbor) as part of the true "Region", and in Lake County specifically, areas north of or near Route 30 would also qualify.  I suppose what constitutes the "Region" has changed over the years to include more areas of NWI with the overall growth of the area.
That's my understanding as well.



My understanding also
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: ValpoDad89 on November 14, 2017, 07:17:09 PM
And bbtds, that's your right. I don't blame you one bit. We have a cat in Paul Oren that will call a spade a spade and promote this program and beautiful university every chance he gets. That's reporting with a lean agenda but he has never chastised another. Kudos to our Union Street guru.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 14, 2017, 07:29:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgMWv4_gNm8
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bigmosmithfan1 on November 14, 2017, 07:48:02 PM
That thumbnail makes it look like Todd is complaining about a foul just called on him. "What? Me?"
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on November 14, 2017, 08:29:59 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on November 14, 2017, 01:43:18 PMis Dakich's problem with the Drew's? I've been following Valpo Basketball long enough to know he's pretty lukewarm about Valpo. I've recently heard from a few different people (not Valpo supporters) say that he has mentioned the rumor in the past that Homer Drew paid some Euro players to come to Valpo back in the day which I find absolutely laughable & idiotic. Where they hell did that rumor even start? It sounds like a rumor started by disgruntled fans of other programs that were jealous that Valpo got some Media Shine back in the day.

There is only one true answer to this.

Dakich is an absolute ass! Simple really.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: crusaderjoe on November 15, 2017, 06:30:27 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on November 14, 2017, 04:58:25 PM
Which is more important branding/image-wise: an amorphous "the region" or an easily identifiable Northwest Indiana?

If you take the rectangular state of Indiana and parse it into 9 geographic areas (NWI, NCI, NEI /  WCI, CI, ECI / SWI, SCI, and SEI), I would say that Valpo is NWI's sole D-I MBB team and should be branded as such. ND is in NCI (and, of course, national) and Fort Wayne is NEI.  For branding and geographic identity, I wouldn't care about anybody south of us.

Agreed.  Is Kouts in the "Region"?  What about LaCrosse?  Wanatah?  A big fat LULZ on the idea that these towns have anything relatively in common with East Chicago other than by being in counties that border Lake Michigan and are in the central time zone.  "Northwest Indiana" is purely geographical; the "Region" necessarily isn't.  With such a small subway alumni base from which to draw from, VU has to encompass everyone in the area.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: oklahomamick on November 15, 2017, 08:24:59 AM
And how many alumnus are from other states or did not set roots in the "region" or Northwest Indiana"?  Thats a big difference between private schools and state schools. 
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on November 15, 2017, 08:42:11 AM
Quote from: oklahomamick on November 15, 2017, 08:24:59 AM
And how many alumnus are from other states or did not set roots in the "region" or Northwest Indiana"?  Thats a big difference between private schools and state schools.

You just have to look at the composition of this fan board.  We have contributors from all over the country represented.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 15, 2017, 09:46:19 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on November 14, 2017, 04:58:25 PM
Which is more important branding/image-wise: an amorphous "the region" or an easily identifiable Northwest Indiana?

If you take the rectangular state of Indiana and parse it into 9 geographic areas (NWI, NCI, NEI /  WCI, CI, ECI / SWI, SCI, and SEI), I would say that Valpo is NWI's sole D-I MBB team and should be branded as such. ND is in NCI (and, of course, national) and Fort Wayne is NEI.  For branding and geographic identity, I wouldn't care about anybody south of us.

Agreed. I've alway thought we should have been branding this way. If we're being honest there is a very large amount of P5 Purdue/IU/ND fans/alum in NWI. And another "issue" is that the name of the University is VALPARAISO University which is tough for some NWI natives to probably get behind because it's not the name of their town. I have a feel some people just can't get over that.

Maybe it would be wiser to brand Valpo Basketball as NWI's Mid-Major Team. I know quite a few Valpo fans who claim two college teams. Purdue/ND/IU as their High Major team and Valpo as their Mid-Major team.

If I'm in the marketing department I'd take the Long-Term approach and try and create new fans while their young some how. I wish the NCAA didn't impose that rule that High School Teams can no longer play at college arenas because that is considered an unfair advantage in recruiting. You could have had a NWI High School game of the week at the ARC where the Local High School teams get to play at a college arena and it would introduce people who don't normally go to Valpo games to Valpo. It would be great if the Athletics Department could figure out a way to get around that rule somehow.

Bottom line the number one way to create fans is to win and go on a tourney run. I'm sure the 1998 tourney run gave Valpo a boost in a attendance and fandom back in the day.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpopal on November 15, 2017, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on November 15, 2017, 09:46:19 AM

If I'm in the marketing department I'd take the Long-Term approach and try and create new fans while their young some how.


At Monday's game I noticed quite a few families with small children, especially for a Monday night game. I guessed they were attending in response to the Foster Care Night promotion that allowed those who donated a gift or were licensed foster care families to attend free. (Congrats to Athletics for sponsoring the event!) I would like to see more and expanded promotions at every game that encourage attendance by families, youth organizations, or local schools with kids who will become fans and want to come back again in the future. Fill the empty seats in the upper deck with kids. Even if they get free admission the one time, many will return, plus almost all will contribute by purchasing refreshments at the concession stands. Some may even want to attend Valpo when they graduate high school. Empty seats can't do any of that.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 18, 2017, 10:56:01 AM
https://twitter.com/FatherHarry1/status/931868455166455808

http://www.valleyhoopsinsider.com/voices-of-the-valley-valpos-ickow/

Voices of the Valley – Valpo's Ickow
by Harry Schroeder November 17, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8szQ3asxhhY
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on November 18, 2017, 08:34:18 PM
Oh. So this is how a class conference works?  That is very refreshing.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 20, 2017, 11:36:47 AM
Coach Ragland is a great coach and we're very lucky to have him on our staff. I hope he stays with Valpo for at least a few more years.

https://twitter.com/CoachingChanges/status/932656234779611142
https://twitter.com/JUCOadvocate/status/932657305786523648
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 20, 2017, 01:02:45 PM
Can we get a coaches radio show going with Coach Lottich for Valpo Basketball? A lot of coaches have a radio show where they broadcast from restaurants to talk about their team.

It would be great advertising for the Team to get the Coach out in the community at local restaurants around NWI. Have a 3 man radio broadcast group of Coach Lottich, Todd Ickow and Paul Oren, weekly or bi-weekly during the season. Fans could come dine at the restaurant and listen to the live broadcast and chat with coach during the season. I'm sure there are plenty of restaurants who would be very willing to partner with Valpo Basketball for events like this.

https://twitter.com/IndStAthletics/status/932675407794536448 
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 20, 2017, 02:00:10 PM
https://twitter.com/ValpoBasketball/status/932698968156508160
https://twitter.com/ncaamreview/status/932635558064640001
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FWalum on November 20, 2017, 06:35:17 PM
Even IPFW has a coaches show!

https://twitter.com/ACME_Bar/status/932762630690832384
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 20, 2017, 07:41:28 PM
Quote from: FWalum on November 20, 2017, 06:35:17 PM
Even IPFW has a coaches show!

I'm not sure what the costs of remote radio broadcasting would be but it might be a solid marketing idea for Valpo Athletics. Having a broadcast from a place like Figure Eight Brewing would be a nice location downtown.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 20, 2017, 07:43:15 PM
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/932780522576674816

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIvglmaehYA&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 22, 2017, 10:04:13 AM
https://twitter.com/kenpomeroy/status/933363786433445888
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on November 23, 2017, 11:03:13 AM
The Mileek that we all know and love:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U6wrcqqNCM

Potential, potential, potential!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 23, 2017, 12:27:33 PM
Quote from: wh on November 23, 2017, 11:03:13 AM
The Mileek that we all know and love:

Potential, potential, potential!

And he grew an inch since this video. Coach Gore mention he grew a whole inch over the summer. I'm really excited to see how Mileek's game refines and develops over the next 4 years.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 23, 2017, 09:12:36 PM
A pretty cool Thanksgiving post from Derrik. Happy Thanksgiving everyone. I hope it was a good one.

https://twitter.com/SmitsDerrik/status/933727845356130304
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpotx on November 24, 2017, 01:04:01 AM
That is an amazing picture combo
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on November 24, 2017, 10:02:48 AM
Quote from: valpotx on November 24, 2017, 01:04:01 AM
That is an amazing picture combo

Yes, Derrik has armpit hair and either Rik didn't or shaved it.

The question now is will Derrik give up the facial hair to become a pro since his dad was clean shaven as a pro.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 24, 2017, 12:43:27 PM
Coach Lottich keeps racking up the awards  ;)
https://twitter.com/bagofcats1/status/933905611422445568
https://twitter.com/bagofcats1/status/933909715112771584

https://www.midmajormadness.com/2017/2/14/14604002/top-10-sexiest-mid-major-coaches-of-2017-matt-lotich-ryan-odom-porter-moser
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 25, 2017, 03:19:06 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchgilfillan/status/934531536208171008
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valporun on November 26, 2017, 10:26:54 AM
I remember meeting Luke on one of his first days at Valpo, while he was working with Intramurals. Valpo has been lucky to keep Luke around, and it sounds like Luke and his family love the closeness of the Valpo community. Great having a guy like this in our program and university.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 26, 2017, 09:04:40 PM
Aaron Leavitt dropping some knowledge:
https://twitter.com/_amleavitt/status/934979531798171648
https://twitter.com/_amleavitt/status/934982403780726784
https://twitter.com/_amleavitt/status/934994975254818816
https://twitter.com/jschoon33/status/934994345689780224

A pretty crazy stat:
https://twitter.com/_amleavitt/status/934799814033887232
https://twitter.com/_amleavitt/status/933150502786863104
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/933149478357491714
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 27, 2017, 09:53:42 AM
https://twitter.com/ncaamreview/status/935154415610269696
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 27, 2017, 06:40:10 PM
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/935303426107494400
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik_ZnnBkfCg
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 27, 2017, 08:58:45 PM
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/935340401845850113

Junior college transfer Markus Golder beginning to take flight for Valparaiso
Michael Osipoff
Post-Tribune
Nov 27, 2017


Markus Golder's athleticism jumps out.

Valparaiso's sophomore swingman has nine dunks, for example, with at least one in every game except Saturday's Savannah Invitational win over North Carolina-Wilmington.

As coach Matt Lottich said, "Markus has a unique ability to get above the rim."

But there's more to the North Idaho junior college transfer's game than his borderline freakish explosiveness.

The 6-foot-6 Golder evoked a parallel to senior guard Tevonn Walker, who typically has matched up against the opponent's top perimeter scorer and last season made the Horizon League's all-defensive team.

............. http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-mens-basketball-valparaiso-markus-golder-st-1128-20171127-story.html
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on November 30, 2017, 03:05:53 PM
Very strong company to be in. It's early but I've been very impressed with Coach Lottich.

https://twitter.com/_amleavitt/status/936337693231009792
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on December 02, 2017, 11:24:32 AM
Ryan Fazekas went to the Bulls game and caught up with his old teammate Kris Dunn. Kris had some nice words about Ryan. I'm really looking forward to seeing Ryan play next season. He's an elite shooter with size. Hopefully he can add a few moves to his game this red-shirt year and come back strong next year. Next years squad has some serious talent.
https://twitter.com/KrisDunn3/status/937005074378842113
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on December 02, 2017, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on December 02, 2017, 11:24:32 AM
Ryan Fazekas went to the Bulls game and caught up with his old teammate Kris Dunn. Kris had some nice words about Ryan. I'm really looking forward to seeing Ryan play next season. He's an elite shooter with size. Hopefully he can add a few moves to his game this red-shirt year and come back strong next year. Next years squad has some serious talent.
https://twitter.com/KrisDunn3/status/937005074378842113

Ryan does have a priestly look about him. As long as we don't play Providence then Go Friars!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on December 03, 2017, 04:11:01 PM
It looks like the guys got the day off today and Micah went home for the day and is still in the gym.
https://twitter.com/barrybradford3/status/937439886218612736
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on December 04, 2017, 08:43:26 PM
Dang, Coach Lottich did 2 sports radio interviews and I missed them. I wish the Valpo Basketball twitter account could give us the heads up when he's going to be doing radio broadcasts.
https://twitter.com/BigSportsShow/status/937869610468208641
https://twitter.com/BigSportsShow/status/937812378527391744
https://twitter.com/WJOB12301047/status/937837197537013760
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on December 04, 2017, 10:20:46 PM
It looks the Valley Offices uploaded the Coach Lottich interview.
https://twitter.com/ValleyHoops/status/937892999480176640

https://soundcloud.com/user-423077123/the-valley-show?utm_content=buffer0e2f4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on December 05, 2017, 10:32:17 PM
https://twitter.com/marchmadness/status/938261763191123968
https://twitter.com/CoachZimba/status/938263249925132293
https://twitter.com/ValparaiZone/status/938258936800694272
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on December 06, 2017, 11:54:07 PM
The Valley was so underrated coming into the season. Big win tonight from Loyola.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: 4throwfan on December 07, 2017, 08:34:10 AM
Speaking of win by Loyola,

Here's a nice story on the MVC from the St. Louis Post Dispatch:

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/tipsheet-mvc-flexes-its-mid-major-muscle/article_394be194-c8a7-55f0-aba2-cf17021ae2f9.html


So maybe there is life after Wichita State after all for the Missouri Valley Conference.

In its first since the Shockers bolted for the American Athletic Conference, the MVC still features impressive depth. That was evident again Wednesday when Loyola-Chicago won at No. 5 Florida 65-59, scoring still another impressive non-conference victory for the St. Louis-based league this season.

As ESPN noted, the Ramblers had lost 29 of their last 31 games against Associated Press-ranked teams. Their last victory over Top team came Dec. 22, 1984 over No. 4 Illinois.

The Ramblers (9-1) were also playing without star point guard Ben Richardson, who is sidelined with a broken hand. But Porter Moser, a former SLU assistant coach, has built a team strong enough to overcome that loss.

The program is off to it's best season start since the 1965-66 season.

"It's huge for us," Moser said. "We're just trying to turn the culture of the program. It's huge for us because of Florida's program. They've been to Final Fours. They were in the Elite Eight last year. They're fifth in the country.

"I'm not going to undersell the importance. It was a really good win for us and I'm really proud of our guys. ... Obviously, when you win a game like this, it's a good spotlight on you. But you want that spotlight to burn even more inside as we prepare and get better as the season goes on."

This victory proved Loyola is ready to take a run at the MVC title. Missouri State and Northern Iowa also look ready to bid for the title, newcomer Valparaiso is 8-0 heading into its game at No. 21 Purdue and SIU Carbondale could factor in the race if key forward Thik Bol returns from his knee injury.

The Salukis took a good run at the good Billikens Wednesday night but faded after center Kavion Pippen fouled out.

Here are some other key, ratings-building victories for the MVC this season:

Indiana State 90, Indiana 69 at Bloomington in the debut of new Hoosiers coach Archie Miller.
Drake 77, Wake Forest 74 in the relocated Paradise Jam. The Bulldogs knocked down 15 three-point shots against their ACC opponent.
Illinois State 69, South Carolina 65 in relocated Puerto Rico tipoff. Former Billiken Milik Yarbrough scored 18 against the SEC's Gamecocks.
Illinois State 85, Tulsa 68, also in the Puerto Rico tipoff. Keshawn Evans scored 29 points against Frank Haith's Golden Hurricane.
Northern Iowa 61, SMU 58 in the Battle 4 Atlantic tourney in the Bahamas.
Northern Iowa 64, North Carolina State 60 in the second round of the Battle 4 Atlantis. The Wolfpack upset No. 2 Arizona to reach this game.
Northern Iowa 77, UNLV 68 in overtime at home. The Runnin' Rebels were 6-0 coming into the game, with a lopsided victory over Utah -- which hammered Mizzou earlier this season.
Evansville 59, Fresno State 57 in the Cancun Challenge in Mexico. That was a notable upset of a high-scoring that is 7-1 otherwise this season.
SIU Carbondale 81, Winthrop 66 on the road. The Salukis beat a traditional mid-major powerhouse shorthanded, playing without both Bol and guard Marcus Bartley.
At last check, the MVC ranked seventh in conference Ratings Percentage Index, behind only the Power 5 conferences and the Big East.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on December 14, 2017, 11:23:11 AM
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/941355960068648960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9DGZq4N0dQ
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on December 17, 2017, 10:58:05 PM
Micah and Mileek working on day off.

https://twitter.com/barrybradford3/status/941841395593109504
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: historyman on December 18, 2017, 04:00:56 AM
Derrik Smits and impractical joker Joe Gatto




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9:30 AM - 16 Dec 2017

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on December 18, 2017, 10:29:50 AM
A great article on John Kiser.
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/942559794556293120

Man in the mask: Broken nose doesn't slow Valparaiso's John Kiser
Michael Osipoff
Post-Tribune
December 17, 2017


John Kiser described the surgery he underwent to repair his twice-broken nose.

"They stick a glorified butter knife up there and pop it back," Valparaiso's 6-foot-5 sophomore guard/forward said. "I was knocked out, fortunately."

Kiser broke his nose the first time on the first day of practice, defending senior guard Max Joseph.

"I was a little too close and Max got me with his forearm across my face," Kiser said.

Kiser got his nose repaired a week later, restricted to noncontact participation for two weeks. Two days into the process, a ball struck him in the face during a shooting drill and broke his nose again, requiring another operation.

............ http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-mens-basketball-valparaiso-john-kiser-st-1218-20171217-story.html
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on December 27, 2017, 06:57:32 PM
https://twitter.com/BBCHSAthletics/status/944305309325168641
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpotx on December 27, 2017, 10:45:42 PM
Micah is a good kid that puts work in.  I truly hope that he rights his season starting tomorrow.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: oklahomamick on December 28, 2017, 01:31:04 PM
well said TX, I often get frustrated with Micah's performance.  At the end of the day, he represents Valpo well and is a great kid. 
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on December 30, 2017, 01:22:20 PM
Pretty cool to see the play being replicated.
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/947184399023509509
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpotx on December 30, 2017, 04:13:05 PM
Geez, they took the longer version
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on January 03, 2018, 03:48:28 PM
Oz on Marty Linssen --Click on the Trib link for the full story.

[tweet]948354781151748096[/tweet]
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpolaw on January 04, 2018, 06:42:03 AM
I'm a numbers guy and think numbers always tell a lot. I checked the stats through last nights game on the Valpo basketball website and a few things jump out at me as mentioned below with some thoughts. Feel free to berate me. I know many will disagree with some things but the way the season is going something has to change and these are my thoughts.

1. The team as a whole should improve on free throws about 10 percent or so. We currently shoot 69%. Micah, Marty, and Max are generally the lowest percentage free throw shooters of those getting decent minutes. Micah at 48%, Marty at 55%, and Max at 59%. That extra 10% can make a difference in close games

2. Our three point shooting is bad, real bad, and last in the mvc per the announcers at Bradley last night. Micah has taken the most and is 17 of 62 for 27%. Max hasn't taken as many but he is 4 of 19 for 21%. Tevonn is 20 for 65 for 30%.

3. Our two 7 footers need a lot of work. Others have mentioned it but I wish they played with some passion/grit. They just seem to be out there going through the motions. From the fouls, missed layups that should be dunks, lack of rebounding, etc. It is really hurting the team. A 7 footer should be dominating in rebounds but that's not the case. For example, John Kiser averages 16.9 mins and has 50 total rebounds while Jay averages 16.2 mins with 49 total rebounds and Derrik averages 15.9 mins with 60 total rebounds and has played in two more games than Jay and Kiser. Max and Markus are leading the team in rebounding with 71 and 63 respectively.

4. We are really struggling at the 4 and desperately need production there. That is the biggest hole in the stat sheet. Parker is essentially non-existent on the stat sheet. I'm not sure what's going on there. Do you think he will stick around for 3 more years? He's probably a good kid but we need production.

5.  The excuse that the team is young and needs experience is getting real old and I personally think it's a lame excuse to make up for getting an @** beating. 

6. If I were coach, which I know I'm not, I'd cut some minutes from Micah and spread them around to the others until Micah started producing at a productive clip. I'd also give some of Jay and Derriks minutes to Marty until it put a fire under Jay and Derrik to start playing like men.

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on January 04, 2018, 07:51:17 AM
Quote from: valpolaw on January 04, 2018, 06:42:03 AM
I'm a numbers guy and think numbers always tell a lot. I checked the stats through last nights game on the Valpo basketball website and a few things jump out at me as mentioned below with some thoughts. Feel free to berate me. I know many will disagree with some things but the way the season is going something has to change and these are my thoughts.

1. The team as a whole should improve on free throws about 10 percent or so. We currently shoot 69%. Micah, Marty, and Max are generally the lowest percentage free throw shooters of those getting decent minutes. Micah at 48%, Marty at 55%, and Max at 59%. That extra 10% can make a difference in close games

2. Our three point shooting is bad, real bad, and last in the mvc per the announcers at Bradley last night. Micah has taken the most and is 17 of 62 for 27%. Max hasn't taken as many but he is 4 of 19 for 21%. Tevonn is 20 for 65 for 30%.

3. Our two 7 footers need a lot of work. Others have mentioned it but I wish they played with some passion/grit. They just seem to be out there going through the motions. From the fouls, missed layups that should be dunks, lack of rebounding, etc. It is really hurting the team. A 7 footer should be dominating in rebounds but that's not the case. For example, John Kiser averages 16.9 mins and has 50 total rebounds while Jay averages 16.2 mins with 49 total rebounds and Derrik averages 15.9 mins with 60 total rebounds and has played in two more games than Jay and Kiser. Max and Markus are leading the team in rebounding with 71 and 63 respectively.

4. We are really struggling at the 4 and desperately need production there. That is the biggest hole in the stat sheet. Parker is essentially non-existent on the stat sheet. I'm not sure what's going on there. Do you think he will stick around for 3 more years? He's probably a good kid but we need production.

5.  The excuse that the team is young and needs experience is getting real old and I personally think it's a lame excuse to make up for getting an @** beating. 

6. If I were coach, which I know I'm not, I'd cut some minutes from Micah and spread them around to the others until Micah started producing at a productive clip. I'd also give some of Jay and Derriks minutes to Marty until it put a fire under Jay and Derrik to start playing like men.



Well said. Totally agree.  When I checked the box score from last night the thing that jumps out is how we were killed on the boards, like 45-30.  That is not Valpo basketball.  Micah is WAY off and you just can't have a guard shooting 48% from the line.  I also agree that Marty should be getting more minutes.  Matt has consistently said he needs more production at the 4 and that is why McMillan is getting the start.  Looked better last night, still a LONG way to go.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpotx on January 05, 2018, 12:08:47 AM
Micah's shot selection has always been an issue, but he is barely getting rim on most of his shots now.  He needs to sit a few games to gather himself.  He is shooting worse than Jay Harris did while at Valpo.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 05, 2018, 10:14:03 AM
Quote from: valpotx on January 05, 2018, 12:08:47 AM
Micah's shot selection has always been an issue, but he is barely getting rim on most of his shots now.  He needs to sit a few games to gather himself.  He is shooting worse than Jay Harris did while at Valpo.

We can't afford to sit him though. We're forced into playing him with no Joe and Kiser. Plus he's one of the only players that can "theoretically" fill it up and shoot the 3 ball well, even though the only games he's proven he can do that is against Non-D1 competition...

The strange thing is I was hearing a little buzz on how good Micah looked this preseason. I know coaches are never going to talk down players but wow what a disappointment he has been. I think Valpo's primary PG target was Marcus Ottey who signed with UIC instead of us and then we landed Micah instead. The ceiling is so much higher with Ottey. Ottey isn't a great shooter but who is more athletic and quick then Buggs. His mistake choosing UIC over us, imo.

I actually thought Micah did a few nice things in the Bradley game. He was finding open guys but his shooting/shot selection/free throw shooting is truly pitiful. And he is suppose to be a scorer. Watching him air ball 3s and suck at the free throw line is maddening. He needs to start shooting the ball better.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 05, 2018, 03:28:44 PM
I'm going with UNI.
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/949388134361350144
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 05, 2018, 10:03:34 PM
I wouldn't mind Valpo getting more media coverage state-wide. Tweet at them that you want them to cover Valpo Basketball!
https://twitter.com/IndyCoverage/status/949463932489564160
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpotx on January 07, 2018, 12:04:56 PM
Overall, I would say Drake.  They are the only team that we will play in all sports.  Since this is a basketball-specific question, I would say Evansville.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on January 07, 2018, 03:07:44 PM
These are some interesting numbers based on published rosters in the league (not necessarily starters or most minutes played).

MVC Standings (1/6/2018)

Upperclassmen (Senior & Juniors)
1. Missouri State (63%)
2. Drake (62%)
3. Bradley (54%)
4. Southern Ill (83%)
5. Illinois State (43%)
6. Indiana State (36%)
7. Loyola (53%)
8. Evansville (58%)
9. Valpo (23%)
10. UNI (41%)

It would be interesting to see starters minutes and the corresponding rankings.  Also, number of years in the program.  But I am not yet that bored to research that much.  Possibly as the season deepens and so does my seasonal affective disorder . . . ;)

But I would expect that a list including number of years in the program would be even MORE telling as to our inconsistency and offensive ineptitude.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 07, 2018, 03:38:24 PM
Does our 23% include Joe Burton?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on January 07, 2018, 03:43:23 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on January 07, 2018, 03:38:24 PM
Does our 23% include Joe Burton?

No, since he's away from the program.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on January 07, 2018, 04:32:09 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on January 07, 2018, 03:07:44 PM
These are some interesting numbers based on published rosters in the league (not necessarily starters or most minutes played).

MVC Standings (1/6/2018)

Upperclassmen (Senior & Juniors)
1. Missouri State (63%)
2. Drake (62%)
3. Bradley (54%)
4. Southern Ill (83%)
5. Illinois State (43%)
6. Indiana State (36%)
7. Loyola (53%)
8. Evansville (58%)
9. Valpo (23%)
10. UNI (41%)

It would be interesting to see starters minutes and the corresponding rankings.  Also, number of years in the program.  But I am not yet that bored to research that much.  Possibly as the season deepens and so does my seasonal affective disorder . . . ;)

But I would expect that a list including number of years in the program would be even MORE telling as to our inconsistency and offensive ineptitude.

Peters' freshmen year was 33% upperclassmen (all 4 were Seniors) with E. Victor Nickerson sitting out his transfer year.

I'd argue that Peters' freshmen class was leaps and bounds ahead of these (3) freshmen at this juncture.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 07, 2018, 06:09:13 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on January 07, 2018, 04:32:09 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on January 07, 2018, 03:07:44 PM
These are some interesting numbers based on published rosters in the league (not necessarily starters or most minutes played).

MVC Standings (1/6/2018)

Upperclassmen (Senior & Juniors)
1. Missouri State (63%)
2. Drake (62%)
3. Bradley (54%)
4. Southern Ill (83%)
5. Illinois State (43%)
6. Indiana State (36%)
7. Loyola (53%)
8. Evansville (58%)
9. Valpo (23%)
10. UNI (41%)

It would be interesting to see starters minutes and the corresponding rankings.  Also, number of years in the program.  But I am not yet that bored to research that much.  Possibly as the season deepens and so does my seasonal affective disorder . . . ;)

But I would expect that a list including number of years in the program would be even MORE telling as to our inconsistency and offensive ineptitude.

Peters' freshmen year was 33% upperclassmen (all 4 were Seniors) with E. Victor Nickerson sitting out his transfer year.

I'd argue that Peters' freshmen class was leaps and bounds ahead of these (3) freshmen at this juncture.

There is no Peters caliber player in this freshman class and at least with Peters/Jubril/Yeo they were WAY more polished products/ready coming out of High School then these guys, which is pretty impressive because every single year both Peters and Jubril evolved their game and got noticeably better.


But I don't know. Parker Hazen could be the next Alec Peters  ;)
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/928749102405472261
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: oklahomamick on January 08, 2018, 10:01:37 AM
Don't forget Lexus Williams.  Freshman Lexus ending up earning conference freshman team awards.  He also was much more polished than any of the current freshman and/or sophomores. 

Lottich has only one freshman class to speak of, but Drew > Lottich in recruiting.

However, Lottich did convince Peters to stay (wish he would have done the same with Lexus) and has a good Chicago recruit coming next year.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 09, 2018, 03:19:15 PM
If you live in Missouri or Southern Illinois and want to catch the Valpo vs Missouri State game on Jan 17, tickets are as low as $5 at JQH Arena.

https://twitter.com/DMills59/status/950812046031024128
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: Valpo89 on January 09, 2018, 03:56:23 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on January 07, 2018, 06:09:13 PM
But I don't know. Parker Hazen could be the next Alec Peters  ;)
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/928749102405472261

Someone already regrets writing that.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 10, 2018, 09:14:43 AM
https://twitter.com/PostTribSports/status/950885778451828738

No Blue 'Jay': Valparaiso center Jaume Sorolla shines in first game off bench
Michael Osipoff
Post-Tribune


http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-mens-basketball-valparaiso-jaume-sorolla-st-0110-20180109-story.html
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on January 10, 2018, 10:41:07 AM
Quote from: Valpo89 on January 09, 2018, 03:56:23 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on January 07, 2018, 06:09:13 PM
But I don't know. Parker Hazen could be the next Alec Peters  ;)
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/928749102405472261

Someone already regrets writing that.


Ah, I'm not going to say a thing for fear that someone may pull a skeleton out of my closet.  It was only about a month ago that z'ville found 1 of my posts from 5-6 years to show how I've taken polar opposite positions on the same subject.  :)
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: NativeCheesehead on January 10, 2018, 11:13:25 AM
5-6 years to reverse position? Amateur.

I do that usually in 5-6 days. Hours if it's a game day.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 10, 2018, 11:41:21 AM
No Valpo players make the list. Somewhat understandable considering our Indiana kids are Freshman and Sophomores and Fazekas is in his red-shirt year.

Which players other then Fazekas do you think could potentially make this list? Maybe Mileek McMilan by the time he's a senior? Maybe Smits becomes the stud offensive big man we hoped he'd be when he signed him. Bigs take longer to develop then wings are we've seen flashes this season.

https://twitter.com/GreggDoyelStar/status/951130852519546880

20 Hoosiers who rank among the nation's best college hoopers
Dakota Crawford, dakota.crawford@indystar.com
Jan. 10, 2018


-Bryson Scott, Fort Wayne
-Trevon Bluiett, Xavier
-Devin Cannady, Princeton
-Ryan Welage, San Jose State
-Dylan Windler, Belmont
-Bryant McIntosh, Northwestern
-Kobe Webster, Western Illinois
-Dru Smith, Evansville
-Desmond Bane, TCU
-Carter Skaggs, Washington State
-P.J. Thompson, Purdue
-Blake Simmons, Evansville
-Justin Thomas, Northern Illinois
-Marcus Burk, Campbell
-Jaren Jackson, Michigan State
-Brenton Scott, Indiana State
-Justin Mitchell, Wright State
-Tyler Wideman, Butler
-Tahjai Teague, Ball State
-Ernie Duncan, Vermont

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/2018/01/10/20-hoosiers-who-rank-among-nations-best-college-hoopers/1013532001/
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 11, 2018, 05:27:22 PM
Listen to this podcast of the "Greg Kampe Show". There is so many relevant nuggets in here from Kampe that are similar to Valpo's Basketball situation and the struggles of being a mid-major program. Trust me it is worth your time if you are a diehard fan. It is a great listen and damn well worth your time to listen, imo.

Just some of things he talks about:
-Student Section attendance
-Investment in their pep-band and OU's gameday experience
-OU's struggle with casual fan attendance (which Kampe calls out their fans for not supporting)
-Facilities
-Kampe literally calls out the Oakland Administration for their lack of support of their Athletics facilities
-struggling to recruit with lackluster facilities compared to other programs.
-struggle with a smaller budgets
-He calls out his fans for complaining about saying, "Why can't we be like Gonzaga or Wichita State AND even Valpo?" Listen to his explanation.
-Also a random nugget of info is the "O'rena" is going to start sell alcohol. A growing trend in college sports arenas. Might help their attendance & boost revenue. I'm assuming they are contract with a company who already has a liquor license.

Paul shared it and brought it to my attention. I recommend it also. (Start at 25:30 if you want to skip the breakdown a of a few of their last couple games.)
https://www.spreaker.com/user/9808881/part-1?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=user%3A9808881&utm_term=episode_title
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/951577972418498560
https://twitter.com/nealruhl/status/951559158804951040

I genuinely would like to hear others thoughts about this after they listen to it. Kampe would be a great media guy after coaching one day. I appreciate how candid and honest he is. He isn't afraid to give up anything about strategy and talk about in game situations.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on January 11, 2018, 06:43:16 PM
Pass...all that guy does is talk (although I do appreciate his cancer fundraising efforts).
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 11, 2018, 09:00:37 PM
https://www.valpo.edu/valpomag/2017/12/18/part-of-the-family/

https://twitter.com/_amleavitt/status/951550478789341185
https://twitter.com/MsMedinaTweets/status/951577946707415040
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on January 11, 2018, 09:02:34 PM
I think Kampe is setting up a firing and a cushion to find a new job. I think he is a decennt coach. He would thrive in a well financed program.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 11, 2018, 09:21:28 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on January 11, 2018, 09:02:34 PM
I think Kampe is setting up a firing and a cushion to find a new job. I think he is a decennt coach. He would thrive in a well financed program.

I don't think he's going anywhere. I believe he just signed an extension 1-2 years ago. He's a lifer there. He definitely feels enough job security to take jabs at the administration for not getting enough financial support and even at the fans for not supporting the team. They just lost their AD so who knows how he'll get along with the next AD but I'd be willing to bet he outlast their next AD if he wants to coach for another 8-10 years.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: a3uge on January 11, 2018, 10:00:23 PM
He recruits scummy woman beaters, and then complains about recruiting disadvantages. Sorry, not sympathetic for his inability to break 100 RPI with a couple 4 star recruits that wound up on his team.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on January 11, 2018, 10:37:57 PM
Definitely aggree cuz that is what he has to work with. But I think he could do well outside the OU world.  Bottom line for me is that I can almost give a crap.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 15, 2018, 10:35:12 PM
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/nwis-valpo-beat-writer-paul-oren-on-the-brakedown-monday-january-15th?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=twitter

https://twitter.com/Bison1660/status/953050515432247296
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 16, 2018, 10:02:23 AM
Just a heads up the Loyola vs Valpo game on 1/21 will have an alumni lunch and drinks event at the Aftermath Cidery and Winery.

https://alumni.valpo.edu/s/1347/17/page-1col.aspx?sid=1347&gid=1&pgid=2243&cid=5188&ecid=5188&crid=0&calpgid=61&calcid=4418

Join other local Valpo alumni and friends for a Sunday Social on Sunday, January 21, 2018!

We will be gathering at Aftermath Cidery located in downtown Valparaiso for food and drinks from 12:00 to 2:00 PM. Entrance to this event is $15.00/person and will include a lunch buffet featuring a variety of flatbreads and desserts from Aftermath and one drink ticket. Additional alcoholic and non-alcoholic selections will be available for purchase at Aftermath. For more information about Aftermath, please visit https://www.aftermathcidery.com/aftermathcidery.

This is a great opportunity to network with fellow Valpo alumni in the area, and we hope you can join us!

After the event, you can catch the Valpo vs. Loyola game at the Athletics Recreation Center at 3:00 PM. Tickets for the game can be purchased by calling the Valpo Ticket Office at 219-464-5233. It is Pediatric Cancer Awareness night and the first 1000 fans at the game will receive a Valpo in the Valley t-shirt and rollabana. The game will also be featured on ESPNU and ESPN3.

WHEN: Sunday, January 21, 2018 from 12:00 to 2:00 PM
WHERE: Aftermath Cidery (15 North Washington Street Valparaiso, Indiana 46383)
COST: $15.00/person

https://twitter.com/ValpoAlumni/status/951104722139828225
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: oklahomamick on January 16, 2018, 03:28:15 PM
Don't forget Kampe brought in the okie st. Kid who only ended up staying a year.  4 star recruit that had physiological issues.  Given chance after chance at osu.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: oklahomamick on January 16, 2018, 07:41:44 PM
Anyone notice vandy tremendously struggling?  6-12 and 1-5 in conference.  I know Bryce has some big recruits coming in next year....he sure needs them this year.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: EddieCabot on January 16, 2018, 08:55:32 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 16, 2018, 03:28:15 PM
Don't forget Kampe brought in the okie st. Kid who only ended up staying a year.  4 star recruit that had physiological issues.  Given chance after chance at osu.

Physiological issues are no laughing matter.  I hope Oakland did all they could to help him get appropriate treatment. 
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: oklahomamick on January 17, 2018, 02:16:27 AM
Osu actually tried to help the kid.  Oakland all about 2nd chances had little patience for him. 
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 17, 2018, 09:41:03 AM
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/953643849938849792

'Absolute bear' Mileek McMillan grows as surprise starter for Valparaiso
Michael Osipoff
Post-Tribune
January 16, 2017



Mileek McMillan was practicing, grinding away with his usual intensity, when Valparaiso coach Matt Lottich delivered a message to the freshman forward from Merrillville.

"He just picked me one day and told me to flip my jersey with the rest of the other starters," McMillan said. "It just went from there.

"I was excited. I was, like, 'This is a big opportunity.'"

............ http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-mens-basketball-valparaiso-mileek-mcmillan-st-0117-20180116-story.html
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on January 17, 2018, 10:22:29 AM
Quote from: EddieCabot on January 16, 2018, 08:55:32 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 16, 2018, 03:28:15 PM
Don't forget Kampe brought in the okie st. Kid who only ended up staying a year.  4 star recruit that had physiological issues.  Given chance after chance at osu.

Physiological issues are no laughing matter.  I hope Oakland did all they could to help him get appropriate treatment. 

I'm guessing a circadian rhythm disorder.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 17, 2018, 11:04:55 AM
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/953672597471973378
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C70hTIM19aE
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: justducky on January 22, 2018, 12:14:24 AM
We are not there yet but we are inching ever closer to that "wait until next year " moment.  If or when this happens Matt will refocus the team toward future group and individual development at the expense of shorter term competitive play. The last time this happened Coleman, Dority, Capo and Gueye were handed reduced or altered roles while Peters, Yeo, Carter, Williams, and Adekoya were given the opportunity to learn and prove their stuff.

Our 17-18 team isn't terrible but I am beginning to believe that it can not successfully compete in March without MAJOR improvements in play from our freshman forwards and significant further development with our 7' centers. I don't see how we can speed and focus this effort if we continue to go primarily with a 4 guard lineup.

By saying this I am not trying to criticize the efforts or performances of either Golder or Kiser. Their futures are bright but not at the 4 position.

Sure. This could cost us a couple of extra losses in the next month but how should we value wins verses development for the future? In addition The Valley has now seen our short attack and had time to make adjustments.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on January 22, 2018, 04:50:02 AM
Quote from: EddieCabot on January 16, 2018, 08:55:32 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 16, 2018, 03:28:15 PM
Don't forget Kampe brought in the okie st. Kid who only ended up staying a year.  4 star recruit that had physiological issues.  Given chance after chance at osu.

Physiological issues are no laughing matter.  I hope Oakland did all they could to help him get appropriate treatment. 

I'm guessing carsasm again?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 22, 2018, 10:42:20 AM
Some good news! The Valpo Managers Team are ranked in the Top 25 of the Nation!

http://www.kpisports.net/manager_games/2017-18-manager-games-kpi-rankings/

https://twitter.com/ValpoMbb/status/955431948159209472
https://twitter.com/ValpoMbb/status/955431951564931076
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 23, 2018, 11:17:55 AM
Chris Sparks makes a strong point here.

https://twitter.com/CoachSparks5/status/955798939713798145
https://twitter.com/ValpoAlumni/status/955810388632850433

Awesome idea but will the University actually act or just send a thank you for the suggestion tweet...
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: NativeCheesehead on January 23, 2018, 02:07:47 PM
In my experience, the alumni department does a fantastic job of putting together events like this. And a horrible job marketing them. I'm an alum who lives 15 min from the ARC and had no idea this event was going on.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on January 23, 2018, 02:35:34 PM
Sparks makes a good suggestion, although the way he made it is probably not ideal.  Seems to me the mature way to make a suggestion like this, which again is a very good idea, would be to call or email someone in that department.  If he's already tried this then my apologies.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 23, 2018, 03:33:13 PM
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/955913890679967744
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/955915164511072258
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/955916421191684097
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/955917319942950913
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on January 23, 2018, 06:01:52 PM
Quote from: M on January 23, 2018, 02:35:34 PM
Sparks makes a good suggestion, although the way he made it is probably not ideal.  Seems to me the mature way to make a suggestion like this, which again is a very good idea, would be to call or email someone in that department.  If he's already tried this then my apologies.

Pot shots almost never work out in the end.  Hope it was a last resort to take to social media. 
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: NativeCheesehead on January 23, 2018, 06:18:45 PM
They should reach out to Chris Sparks for things like this. But only if Phil Willie is too busy.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on January 23, 2018, 08:46:02 PM
Pretty sure Ben boggs is at most of these events so the past players are well represented.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 24, 2018, 10:51:37 AM
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/956206180090761216

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVhGUAjIhNA
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 24, 2018, 11:24:20 PM
Why can't we have some crazy dude come make the same offer at Valpo? lol

https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/956396685894279168
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 29, 2018, 03:47:00 PM
Micah Bradford's dad sharing a memory when Bryce and Homer came out to scout and recruit Micah. 33 points that night. Do you think Micah might still have that in him somewhere? He came into school with so much promise.

https://twitter.com/barrybradford3/status/958093361226878977
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: humbleopinion on January 30, 2018, 05:35:23 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on January 29, 2018, 03:47:00 PM
Micah Bradford's dad sharing a memory when Bryce and Homer came out to scout and recruit Micah. 33 points that night. Do you think Micah might still have that in him somewhere? He came into school with so much promise.

https://twitter.com/barrybradford3/status/958093361226878977

I have looked for Micah's high school stats without success.  I have to believe that his shooting percentage from the field and form the charity stripe were vastly better than what we have seen this season.  In the same way that Lexus has regained his former skills, I wish that Micah could find that kid who performed so well in high school.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 30, 2018, 09:46:32 AM
Lexus excelling this season has more to do with health then anything else. He's also seizing that opportunity at BSU. The way things are shaking out this season he would have been getting significant minutes here if he stayed but it didn't look that way last Spring. I'm happy he's doing well at BSU. As far as we know Micah hasn't had any health issues. I'm wagering his confidence has to be pretty low though.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 30, 2018, 03:04:47 PM
My hope for Mileek McMillan is that he one day becomes a similar player to Alize Johnson. They had a very similar growth spurt in high school. Coach gore mentioned that Mileek grew another inch this summer. He's a big that has some of the skills of a guard. He still has a ton of work to put in but the potential is there. I wonder if he's still adjusting to his height. Mileek could transform his body this Spring/Summer. Lean down and lose some of the baby fat and put some more muscle on his frame would go a long way. He should literally become Derek Bol's protege in the weight room and spend the summer with Coach Gore working on the finer points of rebounding and post moves. Continue to work on that shot. He could become a dangerous player in this league if puts in work.

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2018/01/30/alize-johnson-missouri-state-basketball-rebounding-nba-draft?utm_campaign=sinow&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=socialflow_twitter_si

https://twitter.com/SInow/status/958440986824314882
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 30, 2018, 03:52:33 PM
Comments on motivation.

https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/958456111732023296
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/958450545127288837
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/958450832416104455
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/958457763960639489
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/958458412454510592
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/958458822225530881
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/958459469524062208
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 30, 2018, 04:51:07 PM
Is Joe in Valparaiso right now???  ???

https://twitter.com/dreadedupG/status/958471198882566148
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpotx on January 30, 2018, 09:00:44 PM
If he isn't a Valpo student or alum, why would they allow such a thing?  If he chose not to finish his degree, as reported, our commitment to him is done.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2010 on January 30, 2018, 09:09:50 PM
How are more people not talking about Joe being at Valpo... practicing ... I'd love to see him back in the brown and gold!!!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on January 30, 2018, 09:12:46 PM
This is odd for sure...I suppose the ARC has open hours doesn't it?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 30, 2018, 09:24:37 PM
Quote from: M on January 30, 2018, 09:12:46 PM
This is odd for sure...I suppose the ARC has open hours doesn't it?

The ARC is open from time to time to the public. I remember as a student I could play pick up games when no teams had it in use. I hope Joe comes back. I'd love to see him straighten out his academic situation and get back with team. #FlightBros
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vusupporter on January 30, 2018, 10:25:30 PM
That's it. The Valpo coaching tree is just utterly jinxed this year.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on January 30, 2018, 11:11:05 PM
Does anyone know for a fact that he is no longer enrolled, or have we just been assuming so?  Losing his athletic eligibility due to unnamed academic issues doesn't necessarily have to mean he literally flunked out of school, does it?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on January 30, 2018, 11:20:04 PM
Also  can a player who recovers their academic eligibility also recover any lost season(s) similar to a medical redshirt? (I assume no)
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on January 31, 2018, 05:43:09 AM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on January 30, 2018, 11:20:04 PM
Also  can a player who recovers their academic eligibility also recover any lost season(s) similar to a medical redshirt? (I assume no)

I'd think Burton played too many minutes if Keith wasn't granted a 5th year with 30-40 minutes of court time.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on January 31, 2018, 07:48:35 AM
I'd really doubt that any lost time due to academics would be granted back.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: oklahomamick on January 31, 2018, 08:24:30 AM
I think a player can still redshirt as long as they have not played more than 10%.  Burton has played more than 10%.  My question, has Hazen played 10% of the season?  This might be the reason he doesn't receive anymore minutes, even in garbage time.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: ml2 on January 31, 2018, 08:44:25 AM
I think the number is 20% of games. However, that only applies to a medical hardship redshirt due to injury. If the redshirt is purely elective than even 1 minute in one game is enough to burn the red shirt. Unless Parker Hazen has an injury we don't know about, he can not redshirt this season.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on January 31, 2018, 08:48:21 AM
If this was football he'd have some kind of mysterious elbow tendinous by now to save that year. It feels like in football it easier to make up injuries to redshirt guys. In hindsight it would have been wise to redshirt Parker.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on January 31, 2018, 08:52:26 AM
I think the thinking is once a Crusader always a Crusader.  We have heard about other former players working out so why not Joe?  Someone said he was in town seeing a girl friend.  The guy wants to stay in shape, why not?  Now, if he is also in town to get his academic situation under control and there is hope he could play next year, then that would be beyond awesome!!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 04, 2018, 12:30:06 PM
Todd just shared this on twitter. Amen.

https://twitter.com/ToddIckow/status/960167711526539264
https://twitter.com/leefitting/status/960154018130661376
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FWalum on February 05, 2018, 02:54:29 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 04, 2018, 12:30:06 PM
Todd just shared this on twitter. Amen.

https://twitter.com/ToddIckow/status/960167711526539264
https://twitter.com/leefitting/status/960154018130661376
Every High School player and parents of players should be required to watch this video.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 05, 2018, 09:53:43 PM
I just noticed Tevonn Walkers FG% is 39.2% (5.0-12.6). That is the lowest it's ever been in his career. Since Joe departed its really been a struggle when he started to have to carry a much larger load of the offense. He's had some good and more efficient last couple games.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on February 05, 2018, 10:52:28 PM
Probably feeling a little more like himself everyday.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 08, 2018, 04:04:20 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/961720256359256065

(https://i.giphy.com/media/5OhTVT86LPd72/giphy.webp)
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on February 10, 2018, 11:00:01 AM
Just found this article which says that Matt will be the guest speaker at this event.  Notwithstanding the picture selection, I think this is great news and a way to promote Valpo beyond the Region.

http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/columnists/steve-hanlon/steve-hanlon-this-sportsmanship-dinner-always-tastes-good/article_d2ac13ea-307e-532b-b259-291c585c35a1.html
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpopal on February 10, 2018, 11:25:51 AM
Quote from: vu72 on February 10, 2018, 11:00:01 AM
Just found this article which says that Matt will be the guest speaker at this event.  Notwithstanding the picture selection, I think this is great news and a way to promote Valpo beyond the Region.

http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/columnists/steve-hanlon/steve-hanlon-this-sportsmanship-dinner-always-tastes-good/article_d2ac13ea-307e-532b-b259-291c585c35a1.html (http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/columnists/steve-hanlon/steve-hanlon-this-sportsmanship-dinner-always-tastes-good/article_d2ac13ea-307e-532b-b259-291c585c35a1.html)


I appreciate the following from the article: "Valparaiso University men's basketball coach Matt Lottich will be the guest speaker at the event. This is an awesome selection by the committee. From my time covering the Crusaders, I know there is a desire to make VU all of Northwest Indiana's Division I team. Not just Porter County. This is a great opportunity for local fans, coaches and players to hear about a great program that is only 30 minutes away from most of us." Over the years, especially after the Sweet Sixteen run, I have wondered why it has been so difficult to "Make VU all of Northwest Indiana's Division I team."

PS: Yes, the image selection of Matt is horrible. It almost looks as if he is photobombing a picture of Todd at work.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on February 10, 2018, 01:41:48 PM
Quote from: valpopal on February 10, 2018, 11:25:51 AM
Quote from: vu72 on February 10, 2018, 11:00:01 AM
Just found this article which says that Matt will be the guest speaker at this event.  Notwithstanding the picture selection, I think this is great news and a way to promote Valpo beyond the Region.

http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/columnists/steve-hanlon/steve-hanlon-this-sportsmanship-dinner-always-tastes-good/article_d2ac13ea-307e-532b-b259-291c585c35a1.html (http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/columnists/steve-hanlon/steve-hanlon-this-sportsmanship-dinner-always-tastes-good/article_d2ac13ea-307e-532b-b259-291c585c35a1.html)


I appreciate the following from the article: "Valparaiso University men's basketball coach Matt Lottich will be the guest speaker at the event. This is an awesome selection by the committee. From my time covering the Crusaders, I know there is a desire to make VU all of Northwest Indiana's Division I team. Not just Porter County. This is a great opportunity for local fans, coaches and players to hear about a great program that is only 30 minutes away from most of us." Over the years, especially after the Sweet Sixteen run, I have wondered why it has been so difficult to "Make VU all of Northwest Indiana's Division I team."

PS: Yes, the image selection of Matt is horrible. It almost looks as if he is photobombing a picture of Todd at work.

I see that then-Butler Coach Holtmann was the keynote speaker 2 years ago and talked about recruiting Crown Point's Wideman.  A smart way to endear himself and Butler to NWI before a captive audience.  Low hanging fruit for any coach.   

http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/high-school/boys-basketball/butler-s-chris-holtmann-speaks-at-calumet-region-sportsmanship-dinner/article_f6379c2d-a0e4-5f15-b0de-193afbd7ce0f.html
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on February 10, 2018, 10:07:46 PM
Wideman went to Lake Central...not that it matters at all
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 12, 2018, 12:07:18 PM
 :rotfl:

https://twitter.com/TheReal_MG3/status/963111358429528064
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on February 13, 2018, 08:02:59 PM
So who drew the picture?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on February 13, 2018, 08:13:19 PM
Quote from: M on February 13, 2018, 08:02:59 PM
So who drew the picture?

Bakari is my guess. His three point shooting is a work of art lately!
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 13, 2018, 08:14:08 PM
Quote from: M on February 13, 2018, 08:02:59 PM
So who drew the picture?

Paker Hazen

https://twitter.com/TheReal_MG3/status/963112696983015425
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 14, 2018, 10:00:51 AM
https://twitter.com/PostTribSports/status/963590962231562240

Valparaiso center Derrik Smits develops into 'bright spot' on offense
Michael Osipoff
Post-Tribune
February 18, 2018

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-mens-basketball-valparaiso-derrik-smits-st-0214-20180213-story.html
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpospartan on February 14, 2018, 09:21:43 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 14, 2018, 10:00:51 AM
https://twitter.com/PostTribSports/status/963590962231562240

Valparaiso center Derrik Smits develops into 'bright spot' on offense
Michael Osipoff
Post-Tribune
February 18, 2018

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-mens-basketball-valparaiso-derrik-smits-st-0214-20180213-story.html
Osipoff should have waited for the LU game before he wrote that.  It would have been a different story.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 14, 2018, 09:34:54 PM
I don't think much changed about what he wrote. Smits is an emerging offensive big man and is subpar on defense. That was pretty much the case tonight. He could hold his on the defensive end so Jay logged heavy (good) minutes while he sat. He needs to get better and he knows that.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on February 17, 2018, 03:24:50 PM
I'm thinking about possible starting line-ups next year. Ryan Fazekas is listed at 6-8, 215. Is he a 3,or a 4?  What did he play at Providence?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: justducky on February 17, 2018, 04:33:55 PM
Quote from: wh on February 17, 2018, 03:24:50 PMI'm thinking about possible starting line-ups next year. Ryan Fazekas is listed at 6-8, 215. Is he a 3,or a 4?  What did he play at Providence?

I watched less than 60 minutes total of Providence ball for those 2 years so I honestly don't remember. No matter because we primarily need a 4 so there he will start. If he or McMillan can give us some solid play as a 3 that could be an enormous bonus but only if Derrik, Jay, Marten and Mileek have progressed enough as 4s and 5s that none can be left for long on the bench.

Best case, everybody improves and Fazekas plays 24-27 minutes split some as a 3 but mainly a 4. Worst case, nobody is much improved and he must play 32 minutes at the 4. Even in my worst case we are a vastly improved basketball team.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 17, 2018, 09:14:36 PM
Wow... the moderators closed the student section thread.  :crazy:

There is no reason to stifle honest conversation...

http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=3075.0

(//)
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: talksalot on February 17, 2018, 11:36:09 PM
Valpo beat Bradley tonight... and with that, our 10th home court win of the season... for the 8th consecutive year of double-digit wins in the ARC.

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpopal on February 18, 2018, 10:11:37 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 17, 2018, 09:14:36 PM
Wow... the moderators closed the student section thread.  :crazy:

There is no reason to stifle honest conversation...

http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=3075.0 (http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=3075.0)



Yeah, what's with that?  ???
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: wh on February 18, 2018, 10:31:49 AM
Quote from: valpopal on February 18, 2018, 10:11:37 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 17, 2018, 09:14:36 PM
Wow... the moderators closed the student section thread.  :crazy:

There is no reason to stifle honest conversation...

http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=3075.0 (http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=3075.0)



Yeah, what's with that?  ???

I'm wondering that myself. If criticizing the inexcusable lack of student support is now out of bounds, what's next - shutting down threads that criticize the university administration's inexcusable lack of support?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: IrishDawg on February 18, 2018, 11:47:26 AM
Quote from: justducky on February 17, 2018, 04:33:55 PM
Quote from: wh on February 17, 2018, 03:24:50 PMI'm thinking about possible starting line-ups next year. Ryan Fazekas is listed at 6-8, 215. Is he a 3,or a 4?  What did he play at Providence?

I watched less than 60 minutes total of Providence ball for those 2 years so I honestly don't remember. No matter because we primarily need a 4 so there he will start. If he or McMillan can give us some solid play as a 3 that could be an enormous bonus but only if Derrik, Jay, Marten and Mileek have progressed enough as 4s and 5s that none can be left for long on the bench.

Best case, everybody improves and Fazekas plays 24-27 minutes split some as a 3 but mainly a 4. Worst case, nobody is much improved and he must play 32 minutes at the 4. Even in my worst case we are a vastly improved basketball team.

He played more of a 3/4 hybrid his freshman year, and more of the 3 his sophomore season.  That was based more on personnel, as Providence plays 3 guys on the wing (and did last year as well) who are 6-6 to 6-8 and athletic the last 2 years.  Fazekas' freshman year however, they didn't play one of those guys in their backcourt, so he did play some 4.  He can probably play either, though I'd see him more as a 4 at Valpo.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpolaw on February 18, 2018, 06:22:21 PM
What was with the closing of the student section discussion thread? Seems odd but maybe there was a legitimate reason to close it.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: Billy Co on February 18, 2018, 06:39:24 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if one of the student section leaders complained to the athletic department or maybe  someone in the athletics department has "thin skin." Odd to say the least.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 18, 2018, 09:35:14 PM
Now they're upset that coach Lottich and the players don't give them a pat on the head for cheering when no less than the AD himself gave them a huge shout out for finally putting up a halfway decent showing for once on Saturday. These guys really need to get over themselves.

https://twitter.com/jnordbrock23/status/965088762790318080

https://twitter.com/ValpoAD/status/965236972414529536

Oh and Paul Oren mentioned them and the coaching staff has mentioned their gratitude to the fanbase numerous times. Are students not part of the fanbase? These guys also need to watch the postgame pressers.

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpopal on February 18, 2018, 10:24:12 PM

In my previous post I noted: "The official overall crowd number was just barely above 3,000 (3,021: down more than 300 from the Illinois State game last week), thanks in part to the good following of Bradley fans. Also, the student section was at least two-thirds empty. All credit to those in attendance and displaying enthusiasm! (And I don't want to hear the reason that some students sit elsewhere: that was true in the past as well.) All season we have heard that the attendance, especially by students, would be there whenever a Saturday night game on television came along. Well, that does not seem true. The students who did not show missed a great game!"

However, now I have second thoughts about giving credit when I hear students complaining about not getting recognition simply for showing up. This seems a product of a generation used to getting trophies merely for participation. The student section should have been full for a Saturday evening game honoring the Hall of Fame inductees and broadcast on television. Instead, you can see the sparsely occupied student section in the following video taken at the peak of the game. As Chevy Chase once said: "Nothing to be proud about, Rusty!"


[tweet]965078215927762945[/tweet]

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 18, 2018, 10:42:28 PM
As to the student's point  about the Missouri State game, the games against SIU and Drake (both resounding Valpo victories) occurred over Winter Break with sparse student attendance. I agree that an active engaged fanbase makes a difference and student sections play a role (they did against Bradley) but that goes as much for the fans from the community as it does for the students. EVERYONE has a duty to be proud cheer loud and will the team to victory. Praise for the fanbase as a whole is the same as praise for any subset thereof. We're all fans right? But to focus solely on crowds is asinine. It also happens to be true that Valpo matches up much better with Drake and SIU than with Missouri State. It's everything together (matchup experience  coaching preparedness crowd noise\enthusiasm player confidence momentum luck etc. that determines wins and losses. There is no single factor and they all make a difference.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on February 18, 2018, 11:07:26 PM
I think there  is a simple solution. SET EXPECTATIONS Upon going through freshman orientation, students are freaking told that at Valpo they are expected to attend Valpo BB games, expected to psit in the student section and expected to cheer their rear ends off for Valpo. To do this they are expected to learn basic cheers and are also expected to show up for free pizza and t shirts.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 18, 2018, 11:20:35 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 18, 2018, 11:07:26 PM
I think there  is a simple solution. SET EXPECTATIONS Upon going through freshman orientation, students are freaking told that at Valpo they are expected to attend Valpo BB games, expected to psit in the student section and expected to cheer their rear ends off for Valpo. To do this they are expected to learn basic cheers and are also expected to show up for free pizza and t shirts.

I'm going to be really disappointed if there is no headway on this next Fall during freshman orientation or even freshman FOCUS. It should be easy during orientation to do this because the freshman will all be gathered together anyways. Teach them the cheers and lay the ground for building the culture. Get the cheerleaders, Crusaderettes, pep band, Coaches and players together and introduce and indoctrinate them to the fan-base. Make it a fun event and make a strong first impression.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 18, 2018, 11:36:49 PM
I realize that men's basketball is our flagship sport but I think it would be cool if we did this for all athletic teams and set the culture to be that we go to athletic events in general, especially since we're in a conference that is strong across the board. Obviously we're basketball first and that is most important and should receive the most attention, but we now can potentially see nationally ranked competition and multiple NCAA bids many times a year across a multitude of sports and I think it's important that we send the message that we value these programs too and these athletes need their support as well. Sell the Valley and the quality of athletics in general therein to the students. Tell them about the tradition of the conference and of Valpo's own tradition (we're more than JUST a basketball school.) Tell them there's a good chance they'll see many future pros and that no matter which sport they watch they can expect a fun exciting hard-fought high-quality game.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpopal on February 19, 2018, 09:49:00 AM
Vaparaizone has its own designated page on the Valparaiso University Athletics web site. However, visiting the location, one discovers it is completely empty. What a waste of space! If you want to raise awareness and educate students about fan participation, this is a good place to start!

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FWalum on February 19, 2018, 10:11:28 AM
Quote from: valpopal on February 18, 2018, 10:24:12 PM(And I don't want to hear the reason that some students sit elsewhere: that was true in the past as well.)
I agree that this shouldn't be used as an excuse, but because there were a couple of empty chairbacks next to my wife and I, our nephew (engineering major) came over and sat with us...  :-X
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 19, 2018, 10:16:51 AM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on February 18, 2018, 09:35:14 PM
Now they're upset that coach Lottich and the players don't give them a pat on the head for cheering when no less than the AD himself gave them a huge shout out for finally putting up a halfway decent showing for once on Saturday. These guys really need to get over themselves.

https://twitter.com/jnordbrock23/status/965088762790318080

https://twitter.com/ValpoAD/status/965236972414529536

Oh and Paul Oren mentioned them and the coaching staff has mentioned their gratitude to the fanbase numerous times. Are students not part of the fanbase? These guys also need to watch the postgame pressers.

Coach Gore literally went on their radio show and talked about how important the students were. On the post-game radio show he talks about the students from time to time and thanks the fans.

Wow. Do they need cookie every time show up to the game? I say this as a millennial myself but they are really living up to the millennial stereotype.

https://twitter.com/happeninghoops/status/965618132722311168
https://twitter.com/jnordbrock23/status/965618634235277312

He liked and retweeted that tweet. The Coaches follow his twitter account. If they don't feel appreciated I don't know what to tell them. Don't be petty and retweet that. If they have a grievance with the coaches, be men and engage in a civil conversation.

I think there is room for improvement by the Coaches to engage and interact with the students but this is not the way to achieve that goal. This isn't a good look.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: Valpo89 on February 19, 2018, 11:17:42 AM
Do the students, who get in free to the games, really need to be thanked for their attendance after every game?
Wow.
I was at IU in 1985-89, and I don't recall Bob Knight ever wandering into the Assembly Hall student section to thank us for attending. And we had to pay for tickets.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 19, 2018, 11:27:39 AM
Some leadership... I'll sit in my little corner with my sign and make sure only the opposing coach can hear me and then whine that I'm not being recognized even though my Twitter account is full of non-Valpo content and the most I talk about them is when I bash them for their record even though they're a young and growing team that is playing Great after injuries an academic disqualification and moving up to a much more difficult conference. And I will conduct this bashing completely behind the backs of the people I'm bashing without first speaking to them and giving them a chance to address my concerns. These guys are an embarrassment.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 19, 2018, 11:29:53 AM
Well instead of speaking directly to the coaches they choose to air the dirty laundry on twitter and complain about the coaches.  :crazy: This is a awful look for everyone... It's pretty clear they want affirmation from the coaches.

They chose to not engage with this board to brain storm ideas (but the Athletics Department decided to get rid of that thread  ??? ) and they seem to think it's appropriate to publicly complain with out even reaching out to the coaches. What a mess. "Student Section Leaders" They are young but they should know better to directly speak to people instead of complaining on twitter.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/poZnXsKLvTVGo/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 19, 2018, 12:01:59 PM
They're right. It starts at the top. And that comment cuts both ways. When the leaders don't know what to do and are ineffective in getting the word out it affects the section as a whole. Yes the coaches and athletic department can do better but students have the most impact on other students. There's a lot they could be doing but they aren't yet they choose to blame others. Sad.  The quality of competition sells itself. It's UNI not UMKC It's Indiana State not IUPUI It's Southern Illinois not Southern Utah It's Illinois State not Western Illinois. It's Missouri State not Milwaukee It's Drake not UDM. How do these established mid major brands not motivate students?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpopal on February 19, 2018, 12:14:37 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 19, 2018, 11:29:53 AM
They chose to not engage with this board to brain storm ideas (but the Athletics Department decided to get rid of that thread  ??? )



Has it been established that the Athletics Department had any influence? Unless I missed it, we have not yet heard from the forum moderators why the student attendance thread has been locked. I saw nothing objectionable in the comments, and closing the conversation does not accomplish anything since the discussion only continues in other threads. I am curious about this. Moderators?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 19, 2018, 02:47:38 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on February 19, 2018, 11:27:39 AM
Some leadership... I'll sit in my little corner with my sign and make sure only the opposing coach can hear me and then whine that I'm not being recognized even though my Twitter account is full of non-Valpo content and the most I talk about them is when I bash them for their record even though they're a young and growing team that is playing Great after injuries an academic disqualification and moving up to a much more difficult conference. And I will conduct this bashing completely behind the backs of the people I'm bashing without first speaking to them and giving them a chance to address my concerns. These guys are an embarrassment.

Unbelievable lol. Coach Lottich should respond with I'm sorry I don't stroke your sad and fragile egos. These kids wouldn't know leadership if it hit them with a Mack truck. Maybe I'm being too harsh but they are incredibly immature about the situation. They need to put on their big boy pants and actually talk face-to-face with Coach Lottich rather then make back handed comments on twitter. Be part of the solution.

https://twitter.com/happeninghoops/status/965635294333689857
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: 4throwfan on February 19, 2018, 03:09:32 PM
Let's not be too quick to be antagonistic toward the guys at Happening Hoops.  It's not their fault that other students aren't interested.

On the other hand, the guys at Happening Hoops should not blame the University, or take that blame public.  The University gives free tickets, a winning tradition, sometimes free food, on-site arena, etc.

Remember, those of us lamenting student attendance are "on the same team".  It doesn't help to bash each other.

Maybe we should simply look forward, and accept that the days of a raucous student section are over.  Creativity and self-entertaining activities are in decline society-wide.  If we accept that changing dynamic, then really, we should simply forget the students, and re-purpose those seats.  Eg., give them to the parents of the kids playing at half-time or singing the national anthem, rather than making the parents pay.  Or maybe give them to any high school student.

In any event, it doesn't help to antagonize the students (like at Happening Hoops) who do care, and who do show up.

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on February 19, 2018, 03:15:50 PM
Is it really caring if they require thanks for being there?

I'm all for ideas and conversation to get that section filled up with our current students or with anyone else cheering on Valpo. I don't think they can just give the high school kids tickets though. That feels like some goofy ncaa rule could be in play there.

Yes, Loyola is really turning the turnstiles with all 2091 fans for their first play team last home game against Valpo.

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: Valpo89 on February 19, 2018, 03:38:24 PM
I've been telling people, you can't fault the kids who actually show up.
I'm glad someone actually cares.
It's the kids sitting in their rooms playing on their phones or video games, or thinking they need to study from 8-10 p.m. on a Saturday night. :)
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: NativeCheesehead on February 19, 2018, 03:40:21 PM
I had a conversation yesterday with one of the leaders of the student section in the early aughts. He told me he had reached out several times to the student section "leaders" several times and offered to sit down with them. Nothing.

When the student section returns to its former glory, it won't be these guys leading it.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpopal on February 19, 2018, 03:51:08 PM
The most irritating commentary by Happening Hoops is the whining about the team having a bad season and using that as the excuse for poor student turnout the last couple of years: "Since we have been a student here we have had: 1 NIT appearance as a 7 seed & a 1st round road loss. And a currently last place losing record." He is apparently a sophomore and to justify the weak student attendance the last two years, he also denigrates last year's team, which had a 24-9 record with an NBA draft pick. He also ignores this year's home record of 10-3, which is what home fans witness.


This year's team is 14-15 (10-3 at home), but those who are a senior at Valpo have been here during the three previous seasons of 24-9, 30-7, and 28-6 or a total of 82-22. The home records for those years were 48-4! Add this year's home record, and the four-year total goes to 58-7! Where have all those seniors been?


As I have said in the past, I have lost any patience with excuses from students for poor attendance.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: 4throwfan on February 19, 2018, 04:40:35 PM
Valpopal, there are no valid excuses for not coming.  They just aren't interested.

NativeCheesehead, "former glory" is not coming back.

Today's 18-22 year-old is not going to do what yesterday's 18-22 year-olds did.

Given that, the Athletic department should move on.  The debate should simply be: what does "move on" look like.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on February 19, 2018, 04:45:35 PM
I don't know that they're a lost cause...but I don't know that they aren't a lost cause either.

I would imagine some discussion has happened or is happening with how to fill that area up.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 19, 2018, 05:12:49 PM
Coach Lottich calls out the students in his MVC media teleconference call this morning: https://soundcloud.com/mvcsports/matt-lottich-valparaiso-3

https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/965724783106252801
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpotx on February 19, 2018, 07:49:23 PM
I would call them out too.  It is a disgrace, regardless of record.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 19, 2018, 08:32:39 PM
https://twitter.com/Lowell_Football/status/965774081684574208
https://twitter.com/SteveHanlon3/status/965770689872584706
https://twitter.com/SteveHanlon3/status/965774216233738241
https://twitter.com/bopat10/status/965780597896634368
https://twitter.com/ValpoAD/status/965771905541304325
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: M on February 19, 2018, 08:40:47 PM
I think he's right. The students are there and if they'd just sit in the designated section it'd be party time! In dD there were 25-30 of them the other night. They were loud and fun to be around. Can only imagine there were more scattered throughout the gym.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 19, 2018, 10:43:23 PM
A great article about the CR Sportsmanship Dinner where Coach Lottich was the keynote speaker.

https://twitter.com/nwi/status/965790702574632960

Valparaiso University's Matt Lottich opens doors to all of the Region
Steve Hanlon steve.hanlon@nwi.com, 219-933-4198
Feb 19, 2018


http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/high-school/boys-basketball/valparaiso-university-s-matt-lottich-opens-doors-to-all-of/article_014c4ab0-9a1c-59e5-81d6-5132dd1d6562.html
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: NativeCheesehead on February 20, 2018, 06:24:18 AM
Also, if we put 4k+ in the building every night the only place the students would be able to sit is in the student section.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on February 20, 2018, 09:23:44 AM
I seem to recall that some people said that Matt made a great speech, but I, for one, haven't heard exactly what he said to the guests.  Anybody have a summary or transcript or something?

Quote from: VU2014 on February 19, 2018, 10:43:23 PM
A great article about the CR Sportsmanship Dinner where Coach Lottich was the keynote speaker.

https://twitter.com/nwi/status/965790702574632960

Valparaiso University's Matt Lottich opens doors to all of the Region
Steve Hanlon steve.hanlon@nwi.com, 219-933-4198
Feb 19, 2018


http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/high-school/boys-basketball/valparaiso-university-s-matt-lottich-opens-doors-to-all-of/article_014c4ab0-9a1c-59e5-81d6-5132dd1d6562.html
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FWalum on February 20, 2018, 09:31:55 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 20, 2018, 09:23:44 AMI seem to recall that some people said that Matt made a great speech, but I, for one, haven't heard exactly what he said to the guests.  Anybody have a summary or transcript or something?

I was wondering the same thing.  I expected that the speech would have been more about attitude, respect and sportsmanship (and probably how these things related to his faith without being overtly Christian), than as the article seemed to say, about making VU Northwest Indiana's Team.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 20, 2018, 09:36:13 AM
Coach made the front page of the NWI Times.

I'd love to hear the speech. A lot of people were buzzing about it on twitter and it made a great impression.

https://twitter.com/avankeppel/status/965929630636171265
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 20, 2018, 10:11:53 AM
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on February 20, 2018, 06:24:18 AM
Also, if we put 4k+ in the building every night the only place the students would be able to sit is in the student section.

I the recent past there were times when the student section was overflowing and jam packed for some big games. The Butler games also drew the rowdiest student sections. I'm not on campus anymore so I don't know what campus culture is like.

I know this has been hammered on but the Greek Life support has fallen off a cliff and other sports teams aren't showing up the the games like they use to. I've seen some game where the Volleyball, women's soccer, and softball come as a group but the the other men's sports are MIA. Seriously what happened to the football team now that they aren't showing up to games anymore? The football players were some of the best hecklers when I went to school and they'd literally get in the opposing bench players head.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on February 20, 2018, 10:43:22 AM
Where's Bat Cow?  T-Rex showing up much?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 20, 2018, 10:47:37 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 20, 2018, 10:43:22 AM
Where's Bat Cow?  T-Rex showing up much?

V-Rex has been pretty consistent this season but Bat Cow has been noticeably MIA from games this season (it's tough miss him when he's there). Both are great Student Section staples.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on February 21, 2018, 03:17:44 PM
I just took a look at season stats and discovered why we aren't doing so good.  We don't have Alec Peters and Shane Hammick any longer!  We lost 38 ppg.  With the loss of Joe, we had no chance to replace those numbers. 

We have gotten better and better results from Bakari and Marcus and that bodes will for the future.  But if you look at the performance of guys who were with us last year, this year has for the most part been a step backward.

Tevonn shot 29.0 from the 3 and 80.0 from the line.  This year? 27.1 and 76.6. Max has improved his 3 shooting but free throws are way off.  J's production has declined from 5.2ppg to 4.9 and rebounds have dropped from 4.4 pg to 3.3.  Hardly the improvement one would expect going from freshman year to sophomore year. Derrik has improved, doubling his scoring from 3.4 to 7.0 and adding one additional rebound per game.  Still, combined, J and Derrik are averaging 11.9 and 6.7 per game. The 6.7 boards is the same as last year.  No improvement at all.

We need fire power and I expect Ryan to bring that.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 21, 2018, 08:17:57 PM
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/966124407440773120

Ryan Fazekas ready to 'shoulder' load at Valparaiso after transfer season
Michael Osipoff
Post-Tribune
February 20, 2018

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-mens-basketball-valparaiso-ryan-fazekas-st-0220-20180219-story.html
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: SanityLost17 on February 23, 2018, 10:01:50 AM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22553502/fbi-probe-corruption-reveals-basketball-powers-broken-ncaa-rules

Would love to see 10-20 top teams suspended from the tournament next year or the year after.   

We are going to have 7 juniors next season as well as at least one immediate impact freshman, and the potential for McMillan to be highly improved.  Perhaps not a bad time to be on the experience upswing.     
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: NativeCheesehead on February 23, 2018, 10:39:52 AM
Nobody will get suspended. Unless a mid major is involved.

The NCAA is toothless with the big boys. It knows very well if it comes down on any of the P6s that they will literally take their ball(s) and start their our group.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpo64 on February 23, 2018, 10:44:27 AM
Did anyone notice that "The King" and his court got beat again last night by Green Bay.  What a disasterous seasion  for OU.  If Kampe couldn't win the HL with all of those seniors and the League's leading scorer, are his days numbered at OU?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: oklahomamick on February 23, 2018, 11:18:33 AM
Did not see that.....I did see the spread.  OU -10. 

Kampe is missing Walker who I think is the team's MVP. 
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 23, 2018, 02:47:04 PM
https://twitter.com/marchmadness/status/967125031531810816

https://www.ncaa.com/video/basketball-men/2018-02-23/mbk-bryce-drew-valparaiso-1998-ncaa-tournament-buzzer-beater?utm_content=bufferc25a9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

https://twitter.com/martinrickman/status/967125946590310400

THE SHOT HEARD 'ROUND MARCH
Martin Rickman

https://www.sbnation.com/longform/2013/3/19/4119040/march-madness-valparaiso-ole-miss-buzzer-beater-history
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 24, 2018, 08:55:51 PM
Something I'm noticing on twitter among Valpo fans is that many think Coach Lottich doesn't "stand up for his guys" with the refs enough. I know we've talked about it a little on here but it's a little surprising how much I'm hearing it. I personally just don't think it's his style to yell at the ref. He's pretty calm on the sidelines when he talking with the refs, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have their backs.

It's pretty obvious that Coach Lottich is a pretty intense guy. He's just not a screamer on the sidelines in games. I think the guys know he has their back. He gets fired up for his guys when they make a big play.

Maybe Bryce was a little more emotional on the sidelines in showing his displeasure when there was a bad call but Bryce wasn't a yeller either. I just think Bryce had so much built up cache and love from the fan-base we didn't "knit pick" as much. He was also winning most of the time in his time here, so we didn't notice the little things I'm assuming. It's just been a tough season.


Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on February 26, 2018, 12:07:43 PM
No Coach Lottich teleconference today.

https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/968173278614446081
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on March 04, 2018, 03:50:38 PM
After a whole 4 days of consuming Valley basketball, I have a few take aways.

1) I'm going to Arch Madness next year no matter if we suck or not. It sounds like a awesome time.

2) We need to recruit better athletes... We need more Golder caliber athletes. ISUr has a about 4-5 of them. I'm concerned our bigs just can't compete with the Phil Faynes of the world athletically. Having size isn't enough. Krutwig is also going to be a problem for years to come also.

3) Recruit shooters. We're going no where if we can't add depth that can be reliable jump shooters.

4) I'd like to see our team run more quick hitting actions when we're in our motion offense. I'm guessing more of that will be coming down the road when guys get more experienced, but we can be so stagnant at times. Our bigs also need to be much better at setting picks in the high pick in roll. We were pretty awful at that this season. Smits/Sorolla set some weak picks that didn't create enough separation for our wings.

We talked early in the season about how we had good depth on this team but we became exposed and that wasn't the case at all. Obviously losing Burton hurt the depth but it goes well beyond that. We didn't have enough consistent contributors this season. We don't have enough impact players on this roster.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on March 04, 2018, 05:15:52 PM
Well it sounds like we've got three coming in with just one going out and a schollie still to work with. That should help.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on March 04, 2018, 06:08:17 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 04, 2018, 05:15:52 PM
Well it sounds like we've got three coming in with just one going out and a schollie still to work with. That should help.
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Lost me.  Three coming in?  Are you counting Ryan?  He is on scholarship now.  One going out?  Did Max get another year??  I think it ia two going out, two coming in and a scholarship still to work with as a result of Joe leaving.  Right?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on March 04, 2018, 07:09:14 PM
Quote from: vu72 on March 04, 2018, 06:08:17 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 04, 2018, 05:15:52 PM
Well it sounds like we've got three coming in with just one going out and a schollie still to work with. That should help.
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Lost me.  Three coming in?  Are you counting Ryan?  He is on scholarship now.  One going out?  Did Max get another year??  I think it ia two going out, two coming in and a scholarship still to work with as a result of Joe leaving.  Right?

My thoughts too, thought maybe we were getting some breaking news?
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on March 04, 2018, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 04, 2018, 05:15:52 PM
Well it sounds like we've got three coming in with just one going out and a schollie still to work with. That should help.

??? Is someone for sure transferring? Both Tevonn and Max have used up their eligibility.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpotx on March 04, 2018, 07:58:38 PM
I assume that he is talking about Burton having left.  I doubt anyone has announced their decision to transfer at this point.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on March 04, 2018, 08:09:16 PM
I consider Burton already gone. The impact player leaving I was referring to was Tevonn. No offense to Max but I don't really view him as an impact player. He's a very solid roleplayer but not on the level of Tevonn or what I expect Fazekas Freeman-Liberty and Sackey to be.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: talksalot on March 04, 2018, 08:14:10 PM
Fazekas, JFW and Helm...
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VUGrad1314 on March 04, 2018, 09:01:02 PM
I thought Helm wasn't coming aboard until 2020.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on March 04, 2018, 09:28:42 PM
I'm a little worried about our perimeter defense next season. We're losing 2 really good defensive guards that are also excellent rebounders. We're replacing them with 2 freshman: JFL who I've heard is solid on D but you never really know till you see someone against D1 competition and Daniel Sackey a 5-10 PG. Those are big shoes to fill. I think both are going to play significant roles at some point next season. I think JFL is pretty much destined to get significant minute with the 2G opening but Sackey at PG is more of a wildcard. As we know with Coach Lottich, he won't play you if you keep on committing blown defensive assignments and rotations. He's not afraid to play the less offensively skilled player ala John Kiser.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2010 on March 04, 2018, 09:50:01 PM
Yup. The defensive emphasis worked well for us, right? Just like never pressuring anybody until garbage time. Reminds me of the 2016-2017 season when AP was out. No offense. We've got some great players, as people. But, we don't have the offensive ability to match-up any longer. Good role players who are utility pieces but need more pure b-ball players. And apart from Fazekas, I'm very concerned about our 4/5 positions. We'll be better next year, which will be great. But, I'm mostly looking forward to the comments ceasing that are riddled with excuses about inexperience.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on March 04, 2018, 10:04:18 PM
Lots come down to the 5 next year. The Loyola freshman is a monster. I watched him for only one half today, but he plays possessed. I was impressed.  I watched his eyes when I could and they defined intensity. I watched him scratch and claw for rebounding position. I then compared that to our 5s. And I have decided, in my limited experience, that this is what separates him from our 5s: INTENSITY. Wanting to get that next rebound. Wanting to block out any opposing rebounder. Wanting to receive the ball low and dominate. I do not think any of that is in the DNA of our 5s at this point. At the level we are are playing, they have to change or they need to leave. I may be way off but our 5 position is at the most passive it has been in years. And I include last year. Last year AP posting up down low took pressure off tbem to do it.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: talksalot on March 05, 2018, 01:44:21 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 04, 2018, 09:01:02 PMI thought Helm wasn't coming aboard until 2020.

you may be right... I heard he has a mission-trip-requirement that will keep him off the court...
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: Billy Co on March 05, 2018, 02:28:41 PM
The two 7-foot centers need to develop into better rebounders and Smits needs to get better on the defensive end.

I hope Marty is able to play some Power Forward next season. If he's unable to play the 4 with the 7 footers one day then minutes could be tough to come by for him. Marty seems very slow so he may be challenged defensively in the MVC.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on March 06, 2018, 06:23:14 PM
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/970850337656594438

Matt Lottich on last-place Valparaiso men's basketball: 'We have to get job done'

Michael Osipoff
Post-Tribune


http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-mens-basketball-valparaiso-st-0306-20180305-story.html
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on March 06, 2018, 08:16:54 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/971178811185422336

Musings from the Madness: A year in the Missouri Valley Conference
Paul Oren
Mar 6, 2018


http://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/musings-from-the-madness-a-year-in-the-missouri-valley/article_bc7a7c0e-218d-11e8-8ed1-dfe067e74f54.html
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: bbtds on March 07, 2018, 01:57:31 AM
Very well written article about the Missouri Valley and Arch Madness by Mr. Oren. I very much concur that Valpo fans need to embrace Arch Madness and spend all four days watching exciting basketball at the Scottrade Center whether Valpo makes it to the championship game or not. Except for two contests in that whole tournament there was an exciting ending to all the games.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on March 07, 2018, 08:35:34 AM
Extremely well written and very entertaining read.  Looking forward to making it to Arch Madness next year.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on March 07, 2018, 09:31:12 AM
Paul's article sort of went viral among Valley fans.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VULB#62 on March 07, 2018, 10:06:39 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 07, 2018, 09:31:12 AM
Paul's article sort of went viral among Valley fans.

If so, it's good conference membership relations for us.  Thanks, Paul.  I, too, enjoyed the whole write-up.  I especially liked the direct and implied comparaisons between a solid conference like the MVC, which knows how to get the job done, and our former conference affiliation.  What I also keyed into was the concept that Arch Madness is the MVC version of the NCAA finals in the eyes of MVC fans.  Great way to look at it.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on March 07, 2018, 10:21:20 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 07, 2018, 10:06:39 AM
If so, it's good conference membership relations for us.  Thanks, Paul.  I, too, enjoyed the whole write-up.  I especially liked the direct and implied comparaisons between a solid conference like the MVC, which knows how to get the job done, and our former conference affiliation.  What I also keyed into was the concept that Arch Madness is the MVC version of the NCAA finals in the eyes of MVC fans.  Great way to look at it.

I enjoyed it too but I'm not sure how good it is for conference relations, because our dirty laundry was aired and our off the court issues were hinted at. I'm not faulting Paul for referencing it because he's being blatantly honest. Just a great article. It makes me want to go to Arch Madness even more next year and I hope our fan-base embraces the concept of traveling to a neutral site tournament.

"I've written, tweeted and spoken on Union Street Hoops about attendance issues and that is something that Valparaiso needs to address. How? Your guess is as good as mine. Facility upgrades? Better halftime entertainment? Better sound system? Better parking? Better music being played over better sound system? Pep band that plays new music? Students that sit in the student section? Students that stand in the student section? Better non-conference opponents? More Saturday night home games?"

http://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/musings-from-the-madness-a-year-in-the-missouri-valley/article_bc7a7c0e-218d-11e8-8ed1-dfe067e74f54.html
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: valpopal on March 07, 2018, 10:47:42 AM
One benefit I especially appreciate often in Paul's articles is the way he injects thoughts and perspectives expressed on this board into his writing. Because he is an active and conscientious participant in this forum, he is able to air our concerns and viewpoints in his newspaper pieces, which are more public and get the attention of those who may not be regular readers of messages posted here.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on March 07, 2018, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: valpopal on March 07, 2018, 10:47:42 AM
One benefit I especially appreciate often in Paul's articles is the way he injects thoughts and perspectives expressed on this board into his writing. Because he is an active and conscientious participant in this forum, he is able to air our concerns and viewpoints in his newspaper pieces, which are more public and get the attention of those who may not be regular readers of messages posted here.

But will it do anything to put pressure on the power that be to make significant improvements? Maybe it will. I know members of the athletics department subtle into this message board occasionally. Maybe Paul's articles reach a President Heckler's desk or maybe a board member stumbles across them. Or maybe it reaches a wealthy influential donor.

I think another take away I took away from the article was this, "My hope is that Valparaiso's fans truly embraces Arch Madness in a way that they didn't embrace Motor City Madness. The Crusaders had by far the lowest number of fans in St. Louis this year, which is to be expected given the last place finish. There was a fan bus and I've heard no more than a dozen people made the trip. This isn't anything new, Valparaiso's fans hardly showed up to Detroit either, and those teams won conference championships. What is it going to take to get a strong showing at a conference tournament? I talked to a lot of fans in St. Louis and they all told me that Arch Madness is their NCAA tournament. As I write this I'm siting on the Amtrak heading back to Chicago and I've seen fans wearing Illinois State, Loyola, Southern Illinois, Bradley and Indiana State gear, just in my car alone. One couple told me they stay at the same hotel every year and they haven't missed an Arch Madness in 19 seasons. Their team got eliminated on Friday night. They stayed the rest of the weekend."

Is a large majority of the  fan-base going to embrace traveling to St. Louis for the Conference Tournament? I feel like Valpo fans never embraced Motor City Madness in Detroit because of the way LeCrone and HL HQ took the Conference tournament away from us when we were winning Regular season Conference Championships and we became accustom to hosting them for a small stretch after Butler left. I feel like there was some bitterness. Another thing to consider is the quality of basketball Top to bottom is so much better in the MVC compared to the HL. At MCM all I cared for was our team and you couldn't pay me to sit down and watch a YSU and Cleveland State and let alone get me to pay to watch that. That's just another significant upgrade about Arch Madness. Arch Madness seems like it's extreme well run and sounds like a awesome environment. MCM was not so much.

Beyond just being in contention how can the University build the excitement and the cultural expectation for fans/students to travel to Arch Madness every year? Maybe if our fan's felt like this was our March Madness every season it would be more fully embraced.

I've heard when we were in the old Mid-Con the Conference Tournament was on a neutral site. Was it a well attended event for Valpo fans? It looks like it was hosted all over the place over the years: Rosemont, Illinois, Valparaiso (1995), Moline, Illinois (1996-99),    Fort Wayne, Indiana (2000-02), Kansas City, Missouri (2003-04), and Tulsa, Oklahoma (2005-08). Once Valparaiso left the Mid-Con and it turned into the Summit League it's been hosted in Sioux Falls, South Dakota ever since, because the Dakota schools run that conference now.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: justducky on March 07, 2018, 12:56:09 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 04, 2018, 08:09:16 PMNo offense to Max but I don't really view him as an impact player. He's a very solid roleplayer but not on the level of Tevonn or what I expect Fazekas Freeman-Liberty and Sackey to be.

Because of our glaring need for help at the 4 I would expect Fazekas from day one to be a higher impact player than Max. Judging the potential of incoming freshmen is always tricky but I am generally expecting Freeman-Liberty to meet or exceed the Max level comparison by his junior year. I don't know how to gauge Sackey but I am expecting him to play significant minutes and keep us at the edge of our seats.

Taking these 3 players as a group brings the hope that their 2019-20 contributions might exceed what we now lose with the graduation of Tevonn and Max. That with the further development of other team members paints a pretty rosy picture.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: vu72 on March 07, 2018, 04:48:03 PM
Quote from: justducky on March 07, 2018, 12:56:09 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 04, 2018, 08:09:16 PMNo offense to Max but I don't really view him as an impact player. He's a very solid roleplayer but not on the level of Tevonn or what I expect Fazekas Freeman-Liberty and Sackey to be.

Because of our glaring need for help at the 4 I would expect Fazekas from day one to be a higher impact player than Max. Judging the potential of incoming freshmen is always tricky but I am generally expecting Freeman-Liberty to meet or exceed the Max level comparison by his junior year. I don't know how to gauge Sackey but I am expecting him to play significant minutes and keep us at the edge of our seats.

Taking these 3 players as a group brings the hope that their 2019-20 contributions might exceed what we now lose with the graduation of Tevonn and Max. That with the further development of other team members paints a pretty rosy picture.

I expect Javon to be just like Tevonn and Alec and start every game during his Valpo career.  NOT saying he is the next Alec but I do think that he will in fact keep people on the edge of their seats with his ability to drive the lane and flat out fly.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: talksalot on March 07, 2018, 04:53:20 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 07, 2018, 11:26:23 AMMoline, Illinois (1996-99)

This was the "Mark of the Quad Cities" (now TaxSlayer Arena where the MVC Women's Tournament is going on this year).  And yes, that traffic jam along I-80 was caused by our fans.  The post-game gatherings were well-attended... and the championship game celebration was "Standing room only."

Of course, Valpo was undefeated in those games...all of them...
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FWalum on March 08, 2018, 08:26:13 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 07, 2018, 11:26:23 AMFort Wayne, Indiana (2000-02)

I was involved with the Fort Wayne Sports Club that helped bring the tournament to Fort Wayne and also worked when the tournament was held here those three years.  I was never very impressed with the attendance when it was here.  I could only find attendance data for the last year (didn't try very hard), but the finals that year between IUPUI and Valpo should have been the best from a geography viewpoint and the attendance was only a pitiful 2,412.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on March 12, 2018, 03:03:28 PM
Vote for the Valpo Basketball Managers over Butler!!!

https://twitter.com/ManagerGames_/status/973285442727661568
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: FWalum on March 12, 2018, 05:20:03 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 12, 2018, 03:03:28 PM
Vote for the Valpo Basketball Managers over Butler!!!

https://twitter.com/ManagerGames_/status/973285442727661568
Valpo is behind, people need to get on twitter and vote.
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on March 12, 2018, 07:16:27 PM
Be on the lookout for tomorrow's paper
https://twitter.com/NWI_Hillary/status/973349500092895232
Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: talksalot on March 12, 2018, 08:29:33 PM
BTW, THEY are ahead 54-46 at 8:27pm with 2 days left in the voting...876 votes cast

Title: Re: MBB 2017-18
Post by: VU2014 on March 28, 2018, 07:56:36 PM
Markus Golder putting together a really impressive highlight package in first season of D1 basketball. I'm really excited to for the next 2 years. Work on dribbling and finishing with the left hand Markus!

https://www.facebook.com/anthony.schalk/posts/10211738254794780

https://twitter.com/aschalk94/status/979158192650375170

Awesome video production from Anthony Schalk (@aschalk94) this season! :thumbsup: He's graduating this Spring.