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VUGrad1314

Quote from: VULB#62 on August 02, 2018, 07:29:12 PMI'm jealous of UWM.  They travel to Belfast, Northern Ireland for their gig. The entire field is mid major.



Why are you jealous? I know it's a solid field with Buffalo San Francisco and SFA but I bet they would trade with us in a heartbeat to potentially get WKU\WVU\ one of WF UCF or St Joe's. Is it because the tournament is in Northern  Ireland?

VUGrad1314

Big props to Kermit Davis for doing his old program a solid.

https://goblueraiders.com/news/2018/8/6/mens-basketball-mens-hoops-to-host-ole-miss-at-bridgestone-arena.aspx

As long as they aren't afraid to schedule mids why don't we try to get ourselves a game or better still a series with them?

VUGrad1314

No true road games for Northwestern either and a  WEAK slate. Something needs to be done about this.

https://twitter.com/CBB_Central/status/1026521925181419520

VUGrad1314

UMASS is building themselves a very solid roster. I think they'll do well in the A10 this year. Perhaps they're building up to get attention from the AAC in the coming years?

https://twitter.com/EvanDaniels/status/1026552310980272129

IrishDawg

Quote from: VUGrad1314 on August 06, 2018, 04:53:11 PM
Big props to Kermit Davis for doing his old program a solid.

https://goblueraiders.com/news/2018/8/6/mens-basketball-mens-hoops-to-host-ole-miss-at-bridgestone-arena.aspx

As long as they aren't afraid to schedule mids why don't we try to get ourselves a game or better still a series with them?

Bridgestone is where the SEC tournament takes place this year.  So while it's good that he's giving MTSU a game, he's also doing it to get his team experience for the conference tournament.

EddieCabot

Quote from: IrishDawg on August 06, 2018, 07:17:41 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on August 06, 2018, 04:53:11 PM
Big props to Kermit Davis for doing his old program a solid.

https://goblueraiders.com/news/2018/8/6/mens-basketball-mens-hoops-to-host-ole-miss-at-bridgestone-arena.aspx

As long as they aren't afraid to schedule mids why don't we try to get ourselves a game or better still a series with them?

Bridgestone is where the SEC tournament takes place this year.  So while it's good that he's giving MTSU a game, he's also doing it to get his team experience for the conference tournament.

That's a good point.  I wonder if Valpo has explored the possibility of playing SLU in a non-con game at the Scottrade Center.  Would give SLU a great non-con opponent at a semi-home location and allow Valpo a game at their tourney location.  Win-win.  Probably too late for this season, but something they should keep in mind, IMO.

VUGrad1314

Quote from: EddieCabot on August 06, 2018, 09:14:50 PM
Quote from: IrishDawg on August 06, 2018, 07:17:41 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on August 06, 2018, 04:53:11 PM
Big props to Kermit Davis for doing his old program a solid.

https://goblueraiders.com/news/2018/8/6/mens-basketball-mens-hoops-to-host-ole-miss-at-bridgestone-arena.aspx

As long as they aren't afraid to schedule mids why don't we try to get ourselves a game or better still a series with them?

Bridgestone is where the SEC tournament takes place this year.  So while it's good that he's giving MTSU a game, he's also doing it to get his team experience for the conference tournament.

That's a good point.  I wonder if Valpo has explored the possibility of playing SLU in a non-con game at the Scottrade Center.  Would give SLU a great non-con opponent at a semi-home location and allow Valpo a game at their tourney location.  Win-win.  Probably too late for this season, but something they should keep in mind, IMO.

I think most Valley teams would jump at that, Eddie. Any top-half A-10 opponent is a good opponent. Thinking even bigger,  I would also approach Missouri with a similar offer though I bet they would prefer to just take the buy game in Columbia. The year to do this with Mizzou may have been last year when the SEC Tournament was also at Scottrade, so playing on that court would have offered much clearer benefit to both sides.

VULB#62

Quote from: VUGrad1314 on August 06, 2018, 04:50:17 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 02, 2018, 07:29:12 PMI'm jealous of UWM.  They travel to Belfast, Northern Ireland for their gig. The entire field is mid major.

Why are you jealous? I know it's a solid field with Buffalo San Francisco and SFA but I bet they would trade with us in a heartbeat to potentially get WKU\WVU\ one of WF UCF or St Joe's. Is it because the tournament is in Northern  Ireland?

Simple. My life and values revolve around more than RPi and scheduling matchups. These young men get a chance to travel —— to Northern Ireland!   And they get a chance to still compete against US mid-major teams, not a few Irish basketball clubs. I only hope their coach allows them to absorb this wonderful opportunity (along with playing some hoops).

VUGrad1314

Quote from: VULB#62 on August 06, 2018, 10:05:46 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on August 06, 2018, 04:50:17 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 02, 2018, 07:29:12 PMI'm jealous of UWM.  They travel to Belfast, Northern Ireland for their gig. The entire field is mid major.

Why are you jealous? I know it's a solid field with Buffalo San Francisco and SFA but I bet they would trade with us in a heartbeat to potentially get WKU\WVU\ one of WF UCF or St Joe's. Is it because the tournament is in Northern  Ireland?

Simple. My life and values revolve around more than RPi and scheduling matchups. These young men get a chance to travel —— to Northern Ireland!   And they get a chance to still compete against US mid-major teams, not a few Irish basketball clubs. I only hope their coach allows them to absorb this wonderful opportunity (along with playing some hoops).
I seriously think this could be an audition for the MVC for Milwaukee. If they can beat the likes of this Buffalo team or SFA it could demonstrate that they are ready to add value to the MVC. I think Wright State's trip to Cancun could be as well. While I think Murray State is the clear #1 choice I'm beginning to think that markets and recruiting territory are very important factors to the MVC presidents.

may know

Mizzou already plays Illinois every year at Scottrade.

UWM will be really bad next year. Boat sailed on them.

VUGrad1314

You're right. I forgot about that massive postseason exodus they had. Maybe a bit too much digging for expansion candidates which led to a bit too rosy a view of their immediate fortunes.

VUGrad1314

Part V focuses on the psychology of cinderella runs why the underdog is able to perform so well in the clutch. Heavy focus on Loyola. Give it a read.

https://www.midmajormadness.com/2018/8/7/17660530/the-cinderella-code-part-5-charging-the-giant-loyola-final-four-donte-ingram-clayton-custer

VU2014

Mike Davis putting together an impressive staff in a short amount of time. They landed Tracy Dildy. I was hoping Tracy might find his way on our staff when we had an opening. I wonder if he was in play for our Assistant openings at the time. I've heard great things about Coach Holloway from people outside of VU circles and Coach Townsend has a strong reputation as well.

https://twitter.com/TonyPaul1984/status/1026590573535420416


VU2014

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Quote from: VUGrad1314 on August 08, 2018, 02:58:45 PM
New NCAA rules. Thoughts?

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/24320401/ncaa-announces-new-college-basketball-policy-including-agents-players-longer-postseason-bans

I like the intent of the rule to allow kids who don't get drafted to be able to go back to school but there will be issues with Coaches not wanting to hold scholarships for kids that don't get drafted. It will be interesting to see what happens.

Also allowing kids to hire agents while in school could just be muddying the water. More Coaches may up in bed with agents to land certain recruits.

No matter what they do, College Basketball (particularly at the top levels) will be a shady operation.

VUGrad1314


historyman

Quote from: EddieCabot on August 06, 2018, 09:14:50 PM
Quote from: IrishDawg on August 06, 2018, 07:17:41 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on August 06, 2018, 04:53:11 PM
Big props to Kermit Davis for doing his old program a solid.

https://goblueraiders.com/news/2018/8/6/mens-basketball-mens-hoops-to-host-ole-miss-at-bridgestone-arena.aspx

As long as they aren't afraid to schedule mids why don't we try to get ourselves a game or better still a series with them?

Bridgestone is where the SEC tournament takes place this year.  So while it's good that he's giving MTSU a game, he's also doing it to get his team experience for the conference tournament.

That's a good point.  I wonder if Valpo has explored the possibility of playing SLU in a non-con game at the Scottrade Center.  Would give SLU a great non-con opponent at a semi-home location and allow Valpo a game at their tourney location.  Win-win.  Probably too late for this season, but something they should keep in mind, IMO.

Why would SLU rent out the former Scottrade Center, now named Enterprise Center (after the car rental company headquartered in St Louis) when they have their own fancy arena just a couple miles away just west of downtown St Louis? Also they wouldn't be drawing much of a crowd against Valpo so the Enterprise Center would be mostly empty which would be a money losing proposition for the Billikens.
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justducky

Quote from: historyman on August 08, 2018, 05:34:30 PM
Quote from: EddieCabot on August 06, 2018, 09:14:50 PM
Quote from: IrishDawg on August 06, 2018, 07:17:41 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on August 06, 2018, 04:53:11 PM
Big props to Kermit Davis for doing his old program a solid.

https://goblueraiders.com/news/2018/8/6/mens-basketball-mens-hoops-to-host-ole-miss-at-bridgestone-arena.aspx

As long as they aren't afraid to schedule mids why don't we try to get ourselves a game or better still a series with them?

Bridgestone is where the SEC tournament takes place this year.  So while it's good that he's giving MTSU a game, he's also doing it to get his team experience for the conference tournament.

That's a good point.  I wonder if Valpo has explored the possibility of playing SLU in a non-con game at the Scottrade Center.  Would give SLU a great non-con opponent at a semi-home location and allow Valpo a game at their tourney location.  Win-win.  Probably too late for this season, but something they should keep in mind, IMO.

Why would SLU rent out the former Scottrade Center, now named Enterprise Center (after the car rental company headquartered in St Louis) when they have their own fancy arena just a couple miles away just west of downtown St Louis? Also they wouldn't be drawing much of a crowd against Valpo so the Enterprise Center would be mostly empty which would be a money losing proposition for the Billikens.
You took Eddie seriously when the rest of us didn't. So you lose  :whiteflag: and should make a note to take everything he might say with a grain of salt.

Chalk up another victim for the Eddie approach!  :bowdown:

may know

Dildy will do damage with Davis at Detroit.

VU2014

Quote from: may know on August 08, 2018, 09:06:52 PM
Dildy will do damage with Davis at Detroit.

I'm surprised he didn't land with a bigger program as a chicagoland primary recruiter for someone. If he has success recruiting Chicago at MD (he probably will), he'll get picked off by high major staff quickly.

VUGrad1314

This is big for UDM and for the immediate future of the Horizon League. I'm not sure if they'll get good enough to attract the interest of the MVC but it will help them recover some of their former glory. They were pretty good for awhile back in the MCC days as I understand.

wh

Wake Forest assistant basketball coach charged with assault in deadly NYC attack

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/09/wake-forest-assistant-basketball-coach-charged-with-assault-in-deadly-nyc-attack.html

I'm not judging anyone here because the story doesn't provide enough detail about what the deceased may have said or done that led to a punch being thrown, but it does go to show how just 1 punch thrown in a moment of anger can change forever the lives of 2 probably good people.

VUGrad1314

Seems a few folks aren't happy with the new rules:

Here's a HS coach's thoughts:

https://medium.com/@jessemcmillan/lol-smh-everything-2641cef2ca40

And an opinion from college basketball writer Kevin Sweeney

https://cbbcentral.com/2018/08/09/column-ncaas-latest-attempt-to-save-face-fails/

bbtds

Quote from: may know on August 07, 2018, 12:48:39 AM
Mizzou already plays Illinois every year at Scottrade.

UWM will be really bad next year. Boat sailed on them.

Just FYI. The name of the arena at 14th & Clark in St Louis where the St Louis Blues and Arch Madness is played is now called the Enterprise Center. It is now named for the car rental company that is headquarted in St Louis and hires many ex-NCAA athletes. I believe that the Scottrade Company was absorbed by another investment company.

VUGrad1314

Interesting piece of data on the A10.

https://twitter.com/peteybuckets/status/1027309021953437696

For comparison's sake the MVC data is in the comments.