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bbtds

Quote from: valpotx on May 28, 2017, 04:21:50 PM
That Oakland comment is just too much.  You win the day, bbtds ;D

And no spelling errors!   8-)

VUGrad1314

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Quote from: Grizz on May 30, 2017, 09:17:42 AMMaybe we want him to help us learn how to commit academic fraud or possibly he can teach Kampe how to have a player arrested spend a night in jail and not have to miss any games.


I strongly suggest you try one of the high majors for more information on your inquiry. You know, the programs the NCAA never punishes despite death penalty worthy offences.

VU2014

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Valparaiso was one of the only Programs in the Nation to earn a PERFECT 1000 APR score from the NCAA last season. Valpo was easily one of, if not the best academic school in the Horizon League Conference...

Grizz, no offense but you only make yourself look dumber by making these idiotic statements.

VUGrad1314

An article that may be of interest to Grizz:

In 2016 (the most recent data I could find) Valpo had FOUR programs recognized for APR, tied for the most in the Horizon League Oakland? ZERO, about as many times as they've 1. Won the Horizon League title outright and 2. Made the NCAA Tournament since joining the Horizon League. Nevertheless, please tell us more about the academic and athletic prowess of Oakland University.
http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/thirteen-horizon-league-teams-honored-for-apr-scores


valpo64

And some people want us to continue to schedule them and in effect help their program?   I do remember how we cried like that when we were unable to schedule Butler.  As was mentioned earlier on a posting, Butler had nothing to gain from playing us. Even though we had beat them 4 straight times, some cried because we couldn't continue to play them, just like some of the OU people are doing.  Poor babies...what a shame.  Let's move on...we have absolutely nothing to gain from playing them.  If we do, fine. If not, who cares.

bigmosmithfan1

We also had 100 years of history with Butler (they are still the team we've played more frequently than any other in the history of our program), so that's a bit of an apples-to-oranges comparison, yes?

VULB#62

Quote from: valpo64 on May 30, 2017, 10:49:49 AM
Let's move on...we have absolutely nothing to gain from playing them.  If we do, fine. If not, who cares.

If OU rises to consistently be in the top 100 RPI conversation, then scheduling them is a win/win.  Otherwise, it isn't worth it for Valpo at this point.

VUGrad1314

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Quote from: VULB#62 on May 30, 2017, 11:01:33 AM
Quote from: valpo64 on May 30, 2017, 10:49:49 AM
Let's move on...we have absolutely nothing to gain from playing them.  If we do, fine. If not, who cares.

If OU rises to consistently be in the top 100 RPI conversation, then scheduling them is a win/win.  Otherwise, it isn't worth it for Valpo at this point.

That could be awhile. Not even Pepperidge Farm remembers the last time Oakland's RPI was that high.

covufan

Quote from: VUGrad1314 on May 30, 2017, 11:49:54 AM
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Quote from: VULB#62 on May 30, 2017, 11:01:33 AM
Quote from: valpo64 on May 30, 2017, 10:49:49 AM
Let's move on...we have absolutely nothing to gain from playing them.  If we do, fine. If not, who cares.

If OU rises to consistently be in the top 100 RPI conversation, then scheduling them is a win/win.  Otherwise, it isn't worth it for Valpo at this point.

That could be awhile. Not even Pepperidge Farm remembers the last time Oakland's RPI was that high.
How about an RPI of 102 for Oakland at the end of the 2016-17 season.  Or 105 at season's end in 2015-16. 

While I would love for Valpo to be able to get on the schedule for a home and home any of the so-called top 100 in Mid-Major conferences, the likelihood and previous experience has shown how difficult of a task this has become.  Oakland has always shown an interest in scheduling Valpo.  After a year or two, I say we continue the series.

VUGrad1314

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Quote from: covufan on May 30, 2017, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on May 30, 2017, 11:49:54 AM
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Quote from: VULB#62 on May 30, 2017, 11:01:33 AM
Quote from: valpo64 on May 30, 2017, 10:49:49 AM
Let's move on...we have absolutely nothing to gain from playing them.  If we do, fine. If not, who cares.

If OU rises to consistently be in the top 100 RPI conversation, then scheduling them is a win/win.  Otherwise, it isn't worth it for Valpo at this point.

That could be awhile. Not even Pepperidge Farm remembers the last time Oakland's RPI was that high.
How about an RPI of 102 for Oakland at the end of the 2016-17 season.  Or 105 at season's end in 2015-16. 

While I would love for Valpo to be able to get on the schedule for a home and home any of the so-called top 100 in Mid-Major conferences, the likelihood and previous experience has shown how difficult of a task this has become.  Oakland has always shown an interest in scheduling Valpo.  After a year or two, I say we continue the series.

I'd be down, as long as they're done being a 130-180 RPI team. Then the value really goes down of playing them. If they can stay in the 100-120 range then it's a much more appealing game.

vu72

Quote from: covufan on May 30, 2017, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on May 30, 2017, 11:49:54 AM
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Quote from: VULB#62 on May 30, 2017, 11:01:33 AM
Quote from: valpo64 on May 30, 2017, 10:49:49 AM
Let's move on...we have absolutely nothing to gain from playing them.  If we do, fine. If not, who cares.

If OU rises to consistently be in the top 100 RPI conversation, then scheduling them is a win/win.  Otherwise, it isn't worth it for Valpo at this point.

That could be awhile. Not even Pepperidge Farm remembers the last time Oakland's RPI was that high.
How about an RPI of 102 for Oakland at the end of the 2016-17 season.  Or 105 at season's end in 2015-16. 

While I would love for Valpo to be able to get on the schedule for a home and home any of the so-called top 100 in Mid-Major conferences, the likelihood and previous experience has shown how difficult of a task this has become.  Oakland has always shown an interest in scheduling Valpo.  After a year or two, I say we continue the series.

Yes, but that is with playing 2 games against Valpo, RPI 79 last year and lower the year before.  Substitute one of the favorites to replace Valpo, Robert Morris (RPI 236) or IUPUI (RPI 217) and the task becomes more challenging.
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

bigmosmithfan1

We're less than a week in from the official word of the transition, and I find myself already reaching Jay Cutler-esque levels of "Don't Caaaaaaarrrrrrrre" about the HL and its future path.

That said, if we're going to schedule one of our former conference mates for a non-conference matchup in the near future, I'd suspect that it would be Milwaukee, given our significant alumni concentration in that city.

VULB#62

I'm for that! I'll get to see my Crusaders at least once a year.

M

I'd really doubt that we'd be giving them a home game every year.

VUGrad1314

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Also Grizz maybe you should wait until your team has more success as a league member than say NORTHERN KENTUCKY and until you have even ONE win in the conference tournament that's IN YOUR OWN BACKYARD before talking smack. I just hope OU doesn't say no the next time the A10 comes calling. ;D :lol:

As for Milwaukee,I feel that there will be plenty of time to schedule them once they likewise leave Oakland and the Horizon League behind. Enjoy being a big fish in a small pond, Oakland! (if OU ever even outgrows their peers that is.)

VU2014

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Quote from: M on May 30, 2017, 01:45:56 PM
I'd really doubt that we'd be giving them a home game every year.

Yeah I don't see that happening either. I could see us signing 2-for-2 with a team like MKE like we did with Indiana State. Makes sense for both programs if Valpo is willing to take the RPI hit from UWM if they aren't any better in a few years. Low travel for both schools and I think the Valpo game this year was one of the UWM most attended home game.

It will be interesting to see which schools would be willing to schedule Valpo the next few years. I doubt UWM would be one of the bitter schools since they were also actively looking to leave the HL. I'm sure the HL coaches would personally like to schedule Valpo but the Pres/ADs also have a say in scheduling for some programs and they may veto a game with Valpo because they are bitter.


4throwfan

Quote from: VU2014 on May 30, 2017, 02:03:02 PM
Quote from: M on May 30, 2017, 01:45:56 PM
I'd really doubt that we'd be giving them a home game every year.

Yeah I don't see that happening either. I could see us signing 2-for-2 with a team like MKE like we did with Indiana State. Makes sense for both programs if Valpo is willing to take the RPI hit from UWM if they aren't any better in a few years. Low travel for both schools and I think the Valpo game this year was one of the UWM most attended home game.

It will be interesting to see which schools would be willing to schedule Valpo the next few years. I doubt UWM would be one of the bitter schools since they were also actively looking to leave the HL. I'm sure the HL coaches would personally like to school Valpo but the Pres/ADs also have a say in scheduling for some programs and they may veto a game with Valpo because they are bitter.

Unfortunately, bitterness finds its way into these things.  Kind of a poor example, but when Mizzou left Big 12 for the SEC, Mizzou asked Kansas about continuing rivalry games, and Kansas said "forget it".

To me, scheduling in men's college basketball should be about 4 things:

1. Driving attendance
2. Building resume for NCAA tournament
3. Special games to benefit the players (e.g., scheduling close to a player's home so his family can come see the game).
4. See Nos. 1 and 2.

Bitterness should simply be left out.

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: Grizz on May 30, 2017, 09:17:42 AM
Maybe we want him to help us learn how to commit academic fraud or possibly he can teach Kampe how to have a player arrested spend a night in jail and not have to miss any games.

Won't miss you bud.  Going on forums of your competitors and taking offense is bottom feeder stuff.


vu72

After posting that he was in the gym at 4 am and now this apparent solo workout, I would say Mr. Golder's work ethic can't be challenged!   :clap: :dance: :clap:
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

a3uge



Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on May 30, 2017, 06:54:04 PM
Quote from: Grizz on May 30, 2017, 09:17:42 AM
Maybe we want him to help us learn how to commit academic fraud or possibly he can teach Kampe how to have a player arrested spend a night in jail and not have to miss any games.

Won't miss you bud.  Going on forums of your competitors and taking offense is bottom feeder stuff.

Playing up an underage drinking ticket to play down supporting a woman beater is bottom feeder stuff.

VU2014

Lexus just received an offer from Oakland and he will be taking a visit to Boise State tomorrow.

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