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Game #9 - Purdue @ Mackey Arena Thursday, Dec 7

Started by talksalot, November 29, 2017, 09:20:43 AM

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talksalot

Stat for the game at Mackey... "somethings gotta give"


Scoring Margin

1. Kansas +30.6
2. Cincinnati +25.1
3. Villanova +23.8
4. Miami (FL) +22.1
5. Virginia Tech +21.9
6. West Virginia +21.2
7. Texas Tech +20.5
8. Duke +20.3
9. UNLV +19.9
10. Georgetown +19.8
11. Florida State +19.6
12. Wichita State +19.5
13. Purdue +19.4
14. Arizona State +19.1
15. Xavier +19.1
16. Michigan State +18.2
17. Oklahoma State +18.1
18. Kansas State +17.8
19. Valparaiso +17.5
20. Virginia +16.9

historyman

"We must stand aside from the world's conspiracy of fear and hate and grasp once more the great monosyllables of life: faith, hope, and love. Men must live by these if they live at all under the crushing weight of history." Otto Paul "John" Kretzmann

vu72

These in-state rivalry games are always fun!  Hopefully Purdue will give us a good game!  ;D
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

Just Sayin

SOS:              Real time RPI       Sagarin      Pomeroy

VALPO                  266                 319             312               

PURDUE                 48                   27              42

VU2014

Quote from: Just Sayin on December 06, 2017, 09:18:45 AM
SOS:              Real time RPI       Sagarin      Pomeroy

VALPO                  266                 319             312               

PURDUE                 48                   27              42

No doubt we are the underdogs going into their building.

underdawg

Forget the ratings---IMO your guards can play with theirs--However, their seven footer might be a problem. BY the way, SIU has to play another top 25 in Nevada on Dec. 22 in Vegas Tourney--this will be an interesting game for the reason that Jordan Caroline, their good forward transferred from SIU to Nevada after his frosh season--in fact Nevada has tons of D-1 transfers

VU2014

https://twitter.com/nbairdjc/status/938432693536161792

Scouting Purdue basketball vs. Valparaiso
Probable lineups and storylines for the Boilermakers' in-state non-conference matchup.
Nathan Baird, Journal & Courier
Dec. 6, 2017


http://www.jconline.com/story/sports/college/purdue/basketball/2017/12/06/scouting-purdue-basketball-vs-valparaiso/922203001/

covufan

#82
Quote from: VU2014 on December 06, 2017, 09:29:37 AM
Quote from: Just Sayin on December 06, 2017, 09:18:45 AM
SOS:              Real time RPI       Sagarin      Pomeroy

VALPO                  266                 319             312               

PURDUE                 48                   27              42

No doubt we are the underdogs going into their building.
These aren't ratings, they're Strength of Schedule. SoS is just one factor in determining each of the above ranking/ratings.  If your point is that Purdue has played a tougher schedule so far, point noted.

Valpo is 58th in RealTimeRPI, 73rd in Sagarin, and 84th in Pomeroy.

Purdue is 29th, 8th, and 10th, respectively.

Using Massey's Composite of 28 ranking systems (as of Sunday), Purdue is 10th and Valpo is 65th. 

https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

VU2014

Coach Lottich will be on 107.5 FM & 1070 The Fan radio in Indianapolis today. I'm sure he'll be talking about the upcoming Purdue game and the undefeated start to the season.

https://tunein.com/radio/1070-The-Fan-s29499/

https://twitter.com/TonyD1070/status/938449212496404481

oklahomamick

I didn't realize Purdue starts 4 seniors.  That was similar to us when we made the NIT run. 
CRUSADERS!!!

78crusader

This VU team is going to be tough to beat come February and March.  However, there is a pretty good chance we are going to get smoked tomorrow night and I would be pleased to escape December with a 3-4 record, although I suspect 2-5 is equally likely.

Paul

vu72

Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

VU2014

We aren't sneaking up on anybody tomorrow. The Purdue beat guys made sure to remind them that Ball State beat Notre Dame last night and their fans were tweet at them to not sleep on us. Ball State didn't do us any favors last night. It just gave their players a reminder that ranked teams can fall to good mid-majors.

https://twitter.com/nbairdjc/status/938492442491400197
https://twitter.com/nbairdjc/status/938493917766520832

wh

Here's a kick in the teeth for everyone. Opening spread Purdue -16.

valpopal

Quote from: wh on December 06, 2017, 03:26:34 PM
Here's a kick in the teeth for everyone. Opening spread Purdue -16.

Not really. Just as I expected a week ago:

November 30, 2017, 10:47:25 AM
According to Sagarin, as of right now Purdue would be favored by 15 points. I would like to see a big upset, but realistically I would view a single-digit loss as a positive result for Valpo as they continue to move forward.

talksalot

Quote from: valpopal on December 06, 2017, 04:19:05 PM
Quote from: wh on December 06, 2017, 03:26:34 PM
Here's a kick in the teeth for everyone. Opening spread Purdue -16.

Not really. Just as I expected a week ago:

November 30, 2017, 10:47:25 AM
According to Sagarin, as of right now Purdue would be favored by 15 points. I would like to see a big upset, but realistically I would view a single-digit loss as a positive result for Valpo as they continue to move forward.



last week RealTimeRpi had us down 18....today it's 87-67

covufan

Quote from: wh on December 06, 2017, 03:26:34 PM
Here's a kick in the teeth for everyone. Opening spread Purdue -16.
Quote from: valpopal on December 06, 2017, 04:19:05 PM
Quote from: wh on December 06, 2017, 03:26:34 PM
Here's a kick in the teeth for everyone. Opening spread Purdue -16.

Not really. Just as I expected a week ago:

November 30, 2017, 10:47:25 AM
According to Sagarin, as of right now Purdue would be favored by 15 points. I would like to see a big upset, but realistically I would view a single-digit loss as a positive result for Valpo as they continue to move forward.

About what I expected as well.  Massey has us at -12, T-Rank has -16, and RTPower has us at -20.

Would love to see about a 6-8 point spread with about 3 minutes left, and then we light it up!

a3uge

Quote from: wh on December 06, 2017, 03:26:34 PM
Here's a kick in the teeth for everyone. Opening spread Purdue -16.
Valpo will cover that.

ValpoDad89

#93
Most up to date KenPom has us at 81 and Purdue at 9 so spread by Vegas is on par. Let's make a good showing in West Lafayette tomorrow. I hope Matt and company treat this like a post season game and play their butts off. Purdue has size but we got moxie. Here's hoping moxie wins out.i

As a reminder, we are on FS1 tomorrow so national exposure. I think everyone has access to FS1

agibson

Quote from: ValpoDad89 on December 06, 2017, 07:40:54 PMAs a reminder, we are on FS1 tomorrow so national exposure. I think everyone has access to FS1

It's not ESPN, but it's in a fair number of households.

wh

Quote from: wh on December 06, 2017, 03:26:34 PM
Here's a kick in the teeth for everyone. Opening spread Purdue -16.

• Loyola was a 16 point underdog to Florida tonight.
• Ball State was an 18 point underdog to Notre Dame last night.
• W. Kentucky was a 19 point underdog to Purdue 13 days ago

Interesting, huh?



talksalot

Local Comcast in Valpo has the game at 5:30 on channel 237 FS1.

Nolan's spread is now 15. real time RPI still has the spread at 20.

RealTimeRpi says we beat Loyola at home by 17 and beat them at the Gentile Center by 1.now THAT'S a home court advantage.

vu72

Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

NativeCheesehead

Boy, with the Ball State and ISU results over the in state big boys, then Loyola last night, this is actually setting up to be a huge disappointment if we don't give Purdue a serious game. 

VU2014

https://twitter.com/TheAndyKatz/status/938795755174842378

College basketball today: Don't underestimate Valparaiso, Iowa-Iowa State a hidden gem game
Andy Katz | NCAA.com Correspondent
Last Updated - Dec 7, 2017 10:32 EST
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Here is what you need to know in college basketball for Thursday, December 7:

1. Valparaiso at Purdue is one of those danger games for the high-major team. Valpo is good, as in this team can upset a team in the first-round of the NCAA tournament good if they get a bid out of the Missouri Valley. The Crusaders are undefeated at 8-0 and have a couple of big-time scorers in Tevonn Walker and Bakari Evelyn. And the other thing that Valpo has, which most teams don't, are a couple of 7-footers in Derrik Smith and Jaume Sorolla. Purdue has great size with Isaac Haas and Matt Haarms. So this will be quite a test for the Boilermakers. Mackey Arena was rocking for home games against Louisville and Northwestern. It needs to be again for this one against nearby Valpo. This game is no joke.

.......... http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-12-07/college-basketball-today-dont-underestimate-valparaiso-iowa