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Started by M, March 08, 2019, 02:22:02 PM

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How many players on our current roster will transfer?

None
3 (4.9%)
One
11 (18%)
Two
17 (27.9%)
Three
11 (18%)
More then (than) three
19 (31.1%)

Total Members Voted: 61

humbleopinion

Hard to assess how much he will add.  He only appeared in nine games for the Badgers, and those appearances were at the end of games.  He only saw the court for a total of 29 minutes in his two seasons.
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vu72

I gotta a feeling all those who were lamenting the transfer portal are now smiling broadly.  We traded a productive 6'7" forward who couldn't shoot for a 6'5" guy who put 25 on Loyola as a sophomore and points to his three point shooting as a strength.  Then we traded a 5'8" (maybe) point guard who couldn't shoot plus a walk-on point plus an often injured point who never played--for a Wisconsin Mr. Basketball who played regularly in the Big Ten.  Then we traded a 6'8" guy who on occasion was decent in the paint for a 6'8" banger who started at Michigan State--and now, we add size with some Big Ten experience.

Oh yeah, the freshman coming in are pretty good from what I've read.  ;D
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VUGrad1314

Quote from: vuny98 on April 22, 2021, 03:59:10 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on April 22, 2021, 03:52:10 PMFinally! Some size! No more getting outrebounded I hope with Kithier and Hedstrom to go with Krikke and Emil! Nice to know that if Emil still isn't ready to contribute we still likely won't be hurting! So there's our roster! Not too bad hopefully the transfers can make an immediate impact!
I mean, Hedstrom only played 1.7 mins a game in 9 games last year, so he may not be so ready to contribute much either. But he did shoot an amazing 100% from three last year (1 attempt). He will be a nice big body to put into games and provide some rebounding and defense that's for sure. Any offense he provides will be a bonus. Also, he is only a sophomore, so we have him for two more years which is nice.



Isn't it three? This year doesn't count right?

crusader05

Yep he has 3 years of eligibility

VUGrad1314

I'm not looking for much on offense from a 7 footer. Very few MVC teams have those. Rebound block shots and just score passably in the post and this will be just fine!

valpotx

If this big dude can eat up some minutes, allowing Krikke to be more of a PF, it is very valuable.
"Don't mess with Texas"

wh

Based strictly on Joe's WI stats, it's hard to imagine that he will make a significant contribution any time soon. That said, no one knows more about his potential than Trevor. Without his support, Joe wouldn't be here. That's good enough for me.

justducky

Until shown otherwise I'm picturing the 21-22 group as a witches brew of experimental chemistry which could implode, explode or be banned from the Valley before it ever takes the floor.  :o

Stay tuned for further updates!

valpotx

Quote from: wh on April 22, 2021, 05:10:41 PM
Based strictly on Joe's WI stats, it's hard to imagine that he will make a significant contribution any time soon. That said, no one knows more about his potential than Trevor. Without his support, Joe wouldn't be here. That's good enough for me.

I would take a similar track to this :):

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/cory-johnson-1.html
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vu72

Quote from: wh on April 22, 2021, 05:10:41 PM
Based strictly on Joe's WI stats, it's hard to imagine that he will make a significant contribution any time soon. That said, no one knows more about his potential than Trevor. Without his support, Joe wouldn't be here. That's good enough for me.

I also wonder if there is a connection to Jarryd Nuness.  They both went to Hopkins High.
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vu72

Quote from: humbleopinion on April 22, 2021, 04:07:13 PM
Hard to assess how much he will add.  He only appeared in nine games for the Badgers, and those appearances were at the end of games.  He only saw the court for a total of 29 minutes in his two seasons.

He had a knee injury that ended his season last year in mid-December.
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RS

Arden Skogland also went to Hopkins.

covufan

Quote from: valpotx on April 22, 2021, 05:48:19 PM
Quote from: wh on April 22, 2021, 05:10:41 PM
Based strictly on Joe's WI stats, it's hard to imagine that he will make a significant contribution any time soon. That said, no one knows more about his potential than Trevor. Without his support, Joe wouldn't be here. That's good enough for me.

I would take a similar track to this :):

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/cory-johnson-1.html
If Hedstrom increases his time by a factor of three, he'll go from 1.7 minutes a game to 5 minutes a game. We really need at least 12 mpg


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VUGrad1314

If he comes anywhere close to Cory Johnson's level of production I will be beyond thrilled. I loved watching him when I was in school! Great player!

valpo95

Quote from: RS on April 22, 2021, 06:38:28 PM
Arden Skogland also went to Hopkins.

Obviously not all of the players from Hopkins turn out to be great players, yet Hopkins has one of the best HS basketball programs in Minnesota. NBA players from Hopkins include Amir Coffey, Kris Humphries, and Zeke Nnaji. You also might have heard of Paige Bueckers (UConn.)

wh

#1590
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on April 22, 2021, 04:33:25 PM
Quote from: vuny98 on April 22, 2021, 03:59:10 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on April 22, 2021, 03:52:10 PMFinally! Some size! No more getting outrebounded I hope with Kithier and Hedstrom to go with Krikke and Emil! Nice to know that if Emil still isn't ready to contribute we still likely won't be hurting! So there's our roster! Not too bad hopefully the transfers can make an immediate impact!
I mean, Hedstrom only played 1.7 mins a game in 9 games last year, so he may not be so ready to contribute much either. But he did shoot an amazing 100% from three last year (1 attempt). He will be a nice big body to put into games and provide some rebounding and defense that's for sure. Any offense he provides will be a bonus. Also, he is only a sophomore, so we have him for two more years which is nice.



Isn't it three? This year doesn't count right?

Doesn't he have 4 years remaining?

4 years of eligibility - Redshirt last year - Do-over this year = 4 years of eligibility remaining

https://youtube.com/watch?v=N7Ba_4VyCpw&feature=share

Knowing he could be a 4-year player for us has me a whole lot more curious about him. Joe averaged 10 PPG in his senior year. He was ranked the No. 5 player in Minnesota. Rivals rated him 3 stars. He was not rated by anyone else, meaning his 2-star VC rating is bogus, which is commonplace over there. The fact that he spent 2 years under the tutelage of the WI coaching staff and practiced against quality bigs is a welcome bonus.


VUGrad1314


justducky

Quote from: VUGrad1314 on April 23, 2021, 01:58:16 AM
Well we've got one fan of the team's work in the portal so far! I really hope he's right!

https://twitter.com/hoops_mvc/status/1385338822662184960

https://twitter.com/hoops_mvc/status/1385339489548214275



Does this mean I should withdraw my name from the fan transfer portal?

I better wait. Better safe than sorry. Beside that I am now primarily a Valpo girls basketball fan so I have that extra margin of safety.   ;)

humbleopinion

Quote from: wh on April 22, 2021, 09:56:25 PMDoesn't he have 4 years remaining?

4 years of eligibility - Redshirt last year - Do-over this year = 4 years of eligibility remaining

By my count, he should have used one year of eligibility:

2018-19 Redshirt
2019-20 Injury
2020-21 Do over year
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FWalum

Quote from: humbleopinion on April 23, 2021, 05:35:29 AM
Quote from: wh on April 22, 2021, 09:56:25 PMDoesn't he have 4 years remaining?

4 years of eligibility - Redshirt last year - Do-over this year = 4 years of eligibility remaining

By my count, he should have used one year of eligibility:

2018-19 Redshirt
2019-20 Injury
2020-21 Do over year


I would be surprised if he would stay even 3 years. Academically he will most likely be at least a senior next year and could complete a Masters in his 2nd year. That would be enough for almost every kid, unless you are Vashil.  ;)
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nkvu

Quote from: vu72 on April 22, 2021, 06:16:15 PM
Quote from: humbleopinion on April 22, 2021, 04:07:13 PM
Hard to assess how much he will add.  He only appeared in nine games for the Badgers, and those appearances were at the end of games.  He only saw the court for a total of 29 minutes in his two seasons.

He had a knee injury that ended his season last year in mid-December.


I like this addition. From the video he looks like a big, not just tall body. If he can come back from the knee injury, I would expect him to be really motivated to compete for minutes so he can show what he can do. It will be interesting to see how the coaching staff fits all these new pieces together. At the very least I expect us to be a much better rebounding and three point shooting team.

wh

Quote from: humbleopinion on April 23, 2021, 05:35:29 AM
Quote from: wh on April 22, 2021, 09:56:25 PMDoesn't he have 4 years remaining?

4 years of eligibility - Redshirt last year - Do-over this year = 4 years of eligibility remaining

By my count, he should have used one year of eligibility:

2018-19 Redshirt
2019-20 Injury
2020-21 Do over year


According to this SB Nation article, https://www.buckys5thquarter.com/pages/joe-hedstrom he "gray shirted" in his freshman year (2018-19), meaning he wasn't officially part of the team. That would mean his eligibility clock didn't begin until 2019-20. If the author's interpretation is correct, last year would be a redshirt year and this year a do-over year, leaving him with 4 years of eligibility at this moment. It could also be that the author doesn't know what he's talking about. As Ft. Wayne points out, it's probably a moot point anyway.

vu72

I sent am email to a good friend in Minnesota who writes a prep evaluation piece covering Minnesota players.  He replied that "Joe can help Valpo" and he is glad that Joe has three years of eligibility.  Not exactly a long winded response but still good knowing how Minnesotans tend to be rather restrained!

As for me, having watched his high school tape, I really liked his use of both hands and his willingness to take it to the hoop.  We haven't had that in a while.
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valpo84

Obviously the tape is a couple years ago. But a few quick observations, as said seems to have good hands, good body control for a 7', meaning he knows where he is in space and moves effortlessly to ball (fluidity). He was very muscular for a HS player, expect even more development with 2 years in B1G program.  Has a nice wing span--long reach to certain rebounds. Completes dunks (limited set but assertive--go strong to rack). Moves well without the ball, the pick-n-roll seemed natural (not everyone knows how to roll) and he caught a low ball pass (again not natural).  Was present in rebounding weakside (couple examples on tape). There are bigs who don't do this (e.g. Smits). Showed quickness in keeping up on defense and making the play without fouling (now there could be 20 examples we aren't seeing where he fouls or the player scores).  Areas for improvement (and would be good to see some Wisky practice tape to see if they worked on them)--(i) brings the ball down too low, the smurfs will attack it or block the put back, we didn't see much shooting from 8-10 foot area (made one from 8 and form looked good), his release angle is too flat away from basket (the little hook and the jumper right side of lane) (can get away with it because playing against shorter players).  Coming in his skill level is way above most bigs we have had in past 25 years.  He is at or above Smits (before 2 yrs at Wisky) coming in, Bouchie had some of these innate skills. Vashii, Ensminger, Gomes all were projects coming in.  He seems more natural than Antii coming in.  Maybe closest to Raitis, who was extremely polished coming in.  KVW is another comparison, although he had some stiffness.  Will be interesting to see how he has developed at UW and how the above actually translates into real action.  For now, they're video clips.
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vu72

Joe was ranked number 5 (number 2 Center) in Minnesota coming out of high school.

https://www.prephoops.com/minnesota/rankings/2018-rankings/
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