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Title: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: VU2014 on March 23, 2023, 04:44:06 PM
https://twitter.com/mattnorlander/status/1639017076982714369?s=46&t=cNk7taMAYtxNl1Q0_O79Gw

https://twitter.com/tvboren/status/1639019115448012800?s=46&t=cNk7taMAYtxNl1Q0_O79Gw
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: tiny707 on March 23, 2023, 04:45:36 PM
Wow! Never thought it would happen because of money.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: vu72 on March 23, 2023, 04:51:54 PM
Now all you guys who thought Small and Padilla wouldn't have the guts or the resources can start focusing on a recipe for crow.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: JD24 on March 23, 2023, 04:55:24 PM
Whatever crow needs to be eaten, I'll partake. Let's see who the new hire ends up being.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: johnu1 on March 23, 2023, 04:56:05 PM
Lottich always seemed to get the kind of players I liked to watch, but his in-game coaching seemed to fail him way too often. They could have had 4 or 5 more conference wins this year by playing better. That's no title team, but it's not terrible.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: hailcrusaders on March 23, 2023, 04:57:43 PM
I take no joy in his dismissal, but no doubt it's the right move. Here's to whoever's next setting this program back on the right trajectory.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: AlaskaCrusader19 on March 23, 2023, 05:15:01 PM
The best day in Valparaiso basketball since 2016.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: may know on March 23, 2023, 05:24:20 PM
No joy in seeing someone fired, but I give immense credit to Padilla/Small for making it work.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: GoldenCrusader87 on March 23, 2023, 05:40:19 PM
Thank God it's not April 1 or I wouldn't have believed it — way to go Dr. Small & Co.!

Way to provide some hope for this program and in turn a commitment to the future — not only of this program but the institution and community.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: valpopal on March 23, 2023, 05:49:43 PM
Ironically, I was attending the new museum director's inaugural formal presentation to the community at the Brauer with my cell phone open to social media awaiting an expected Lottich announcement, which arrived on Twitter halfway through Canning's speech. Introduced by the dean of the library, Canning spoke in front of a wall displaying the three paintings proposed for sale and explained why the artworks were crucial cornerstones of the collection that drew him to the position during his job interview. He declared that he agreed with the national associations that it would be wrong to sell the paintings. Listening to Canning with the Lottich news on the cell phone in my hand made this moment for the university even more dramatic. 
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: NativeCheesehead on March 23, 2023, 06:03:58 PM
Thank you Matt. Seriously. Wish him all the success in the world.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: valpofb16 on March 23, 2023, 06:25:30 PM
Must have been a large donor step in. Necessary move for program. Wish Matt and his family well.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: usc4valpo on March 23, 2023, 06:30:30 PM
Very important move for Valpo being committed for excellence. Matt will learn from this experience and be better in the long term.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: VULB#62 on March 23, 2023, 06:30:39 PM
Quote from: hailcrusaders on March 23, 2023, 04:57:43 PM
I take no joy in his dismissal, but no doubt it's the right move. Here's to whoever's next setting this program back on the right trajectory.

Here, here. 

Quote from: NativeCheesehead on March 23, 2023, 06:03:58 PM
Thank you Matt. Seriously. Wish him all the success in the world.

Here, here. Again.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: David81 on March 23, 2023, 07:08:47 PM
Classy words from Dr. Small: "I would like to sincerely thank Matt Lottich for his contributions to Valpo Athletics during his time leading our men's basketball program," Small said. "Coach Lottich is a man of high character and he has led our team with integrity and class. This was a difficult decision and not one that I took lightly. I wish Matt and his family all the best in their future endeavors."

Plus an appropriate VU Athletics website headline: "Valpo Announces Change in Leadership of Men's Basketball Program"

https://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2022-23/21980/valpo-announces-change-in-leadership-of-mens-basketball-program/ (https://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2022-23/21980/valpo-announces-change-in-leadership-of-mens-basketball-program/)
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: mj on March 23, 2023, 07:15:09 PM
I'll echo what others have said. Lottich gave it a good effort but it didn't work out. Hopefully he lands on his feet.

Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: valpofb16 on March 23, 2023, 07:30:17 PM
I hope Valparaiso looks at Paul Corsaro from Uindy. Top 10 D2 program, roots in Indy.

Could really help open up a pipeline there (for athletes and non athletes)
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: usc4valpo on March 23, 2023, 08:46:19 PM
David - I agree, but besides that statement everything else was a template speech for a firing.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: VU2014 on March 23, 2023, 09:17:16 PM
I'm happily eating crow tonight  :)

Hats off to Dr. Small and President Padilla!
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: wh on March 23, 2023, 09:22:16 PM
I don't mean to be a killjoy, but I can't get excited until I know where the buyout money came from. If a donor or donors with deep pockets stepped up, great. If university funds were cobbled together to make this happen, I will be beside myself. That's all I'm going to say.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: usc4valpo on March 24, 2023, 05:48:02 AM
Wh - will we ever know how this decision was made? The good news is that Valpo is committed to make the basketball program better in D1 competition. It would be interesting to understand why the decision took so long after the season was completed, especially with recruiting and the transfer protocol in full swing.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: VULB#62 on March 24, 2023, 07:08:18 AM
Betcha the timing had to with the process of nailing down the donor(s) to offset the buy-out.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: Just Sayin on March 24, 2023, 08:00:06 AM
https://twitter.com/BMogues/status/1639020432996139009
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: oklahomamick on March 24, 2023, 08:19:39 AM
I agree with WH on the where the money came from. 

Matt was not good at his job and needed to be dismissed just like anyone else. 

Matt is a Stanford guy and will have no problem landing on his feet. 
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: AlaskaCrusader19 on March 24, 2023, 08:56:34 AM
https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1639264529367302146?s=20

Likely related to the news, Ben Krikke is in the portal.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: Dr. T on March 24, 2023, 09:02:47 AM
I would love to see Ben land @ Notre Dame. They have a BIG TIME overhaul that'll be taking place. Given the academic requirements at UND, they cannot fill roster spots with JUCO players. Nor can they fill spots with undergraduate transfers unless they are perhaps rising sophomores with gen eds in place that afford them a clear plan of study whereby they'd be on track to graduate.

Thus, I see UND going with some rentals in the form of grad transfers. Ben would be a perfect fit!
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: valpo64 on March 24, 2023, 11:31:55 AM
I am hoping that when Ben sees who the new Coach is he will remove his name out of the portal and return to Valpo.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: VUGrad1314 on March 24, 2023, 11:43:46 AM
I really hate to say this because I love Ben and think that he has been an amazing and loyal player for Valpo who has put up with a lot but if him leaving is the result of Lottich being fired I can't say I'm unhappy about it. We can't allow long-term decisions to be made for the sake of one player no matter how great that player may be. That's how we got in this mess in the first place. I think this move is a sign that the new leadership has taken that lesson to heart and is doing what needs to be done. I salute Small and Padilla for their courage during this time and look forward to a great hire who will get us back to respectability and hopefully beyond. It is past time for us to make a good showing in our new home. I take no joy in Matt's firing it's a tough thing for anyone to experience but I'm confident he'll land on his feet and maybe even become a successful head coach somewhere else down the line ala Porter Moser. For the first time in a very long time I am legitimately hopeful for the future of VU basketball but it is absolutely CRITICAL that we get this hire right. Blount is a very interesting name but I hope he's more than just a recruiter. Lottich was billed as a recruiter and we all saw how that turned out. I will trust Small and Padilla's judgment. It seems clear to me that they care about VU's athletic success.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: Dr. T on March 24, 2023, 12:36:44 PM
VUGrad1314 - such a solid take! Couldn't say it better myself.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: SanityLost17 on March 24, 2023, 01:01:16 PM
Over on the MVC board they are trashing Valpo as the "worst coaching job in the league" based mostly on our gym. 

With this coaching change, we are about to find out if that is true or not.      Personally, I think there are LOTS of good basketball players out there.    There is plenty of talent to go around.    Coaching is the hard part.   

Would love to see a list of everybody who applies.   Would tell us a lot on what people nationally think of Valpo.       

Does history of success trump a bad gym as far as talented coaches thinking they can win here.     We are about to learn what we are or what we are not.   
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: NativeCheesehead on March 24, 2023, 01:08:38 PM
There's a reason I stopped posting on that MVC board. I don't care what they think. We had the worst gym in the Horizon League as well.

The only think that matters is nailing this hire.   
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: JD24 on March 24, 2023, 01:15:58 PM
Quote from: Dr. T on March 24, 2023, 09:02:47 AMI would love to see Ben land @ Notre Dame. They have a BIG TIME overhaul that'll be taking place. 
I think for Ben, a program not in flux would be where I'd like to see him. I mentioned Gonzaga replacing Timme and another mentioned St. Mary's. I can see either and him being successful at both. There aren't a lot of Div I teams who play a style which would most take advantage of Ben's abilities and him changing could end up being a problem for him if the change isn't subtle enough.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: historyman on March 24, 2023, 07:45:58 PM
Quote from: vu72 on March 23, 2023, 04:51:54 PM
Now all you guys who thought Small and Padilla wouldn't have the guts or the resources can start focusing on a recipe for crow.

I'm really starting to wonder where the money came from. I guess we'll never find out.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: wh on March 24, 2023, 07:58:40 PM
Quote from: Dr. T on March 24, 2023, 12:36:44 PM
VUGrad1314 - such a solid take! Couldn't say it better myself.

Let me echo your sentiments. Well said, 1314!
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: VULB#62 on March 24, 2023, 10:31:46 PM
But, after a new coach is hired and he and Ben, hopefully, chat, would you be happy if he decided to return?  I would. Cuz the kid will do whatever he is asked to do to win.

Personally, I don't want to see him leave. I want him to spend his last year in a very positive environment — one that Valpo "probably" will provide.  A Valpo 23-24 team can be built on him because he will adapt, sacrifice, and do whatever is necessary to help his team. That, unfortunately unless you are a fantastic athlete, does not always  visibly make for an NBA slot. He is just not selfish enough.

And his type of athlete can be eaten up in the P-5 world of "it's all about me." Why? Because he will not focus on himself at the expense of  teammates.

The thing is he is gonna be a very good European pro because that is how their game is played. 
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: David81 on March 24, 2023, 11:16:45 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 24, 2023, 10:31:46 PM
But, after a new coach is hired and he and Ben, hopefully, chat, would you be happy if he decided to return?  I would. Cuz the kid will do whatever he is asked to do to win.

Personally, I don't want to see him leave. I want him to spend his last year in a very positive environment — one that Valpo "probably" will provide.  A Valpo 23-24 team can be built on him because he will adapt, sacrifice, and do whatever is necessary to help his team. That, unfortunately unless you are a fantastic athlete, does not always  visibly make for an NBA slot. He is just not selfish enough.

And his type of athlete can be eaten up in the P-5 world of "it's all about me." Why? Because he will not focus on himself at the expense of  teammates.

The thing is he is gonna be a very good European pro because that is how their game is played. 

Krikke is not a strong rebounder as a power forward, and his 3-point game needs work for the small forward position. If he goes to a P5 school, he'll be lucky if the team allows him to work on his outside game, as those schools tend to have good wings who can shoot from deep all day. But with the right new HC and some talented transfers at VU, he could have a chance to polish his game for the next level.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: JD24 on March 25, 2023, 09:04:07 AM
Quote from: David81 on March 24, 2023, 11:16:45 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 24, 2023, 10:31:46 PMBut, after a new coach is hired and he and Ben, hopefully, chat, would you be happy if he decided to return?  I would. Cuz the kid will do whatever he is asked to do to win. Personally, I don't want to see him leave. I want him to spend his last year in a very positive environment — one that Valpo "probably" will provide.  A Valpo 23-24 team can be built on him because he will adapt, sacrifice, and do whatever is necessary to help his team. That, unfortunately unless you are a fantastic athlete, does not always  visibly make for an NBA slot. He is just not selfish enough. And his type of athlete can be eaten up in the P-5 world of "it's all about me." Why? Because he will not focus on himself at the expense of  teammates. The thing is he is gonna be a very good European pro because that is how their game is played.
Krikke is not a strong rebounder as a power forward, and his 3-point game needs work for the small forward position. If he goes to a P5 school, he'll be lucky if the team allows him to work on his outside game, as those schools tend to have good wings who can shoot from deep all day. But with the right new HC and some talented transfers at VU, he could have a chance to polish his game for the next level.
This is correct. No coach, probably at any level, is going to let Ben or anyone else "work on his game" while that coach is trying to win games. Ben would have to show that he can play a 5 out game quickly or he won't see much playing time with those programs. This why Gonzaga and St. Mary's make sense as they both play the inside out game Ben is a better fit for.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: vu72 on March 25, 2023, 09:10:41 AM
We'll see if the signee's stay signed.  One of them is Zane Doughty from Ben Davis, the 10th ranked team in the nation.  I watched one of their games and thr announcer described him as the best, back to the basket 5 in the state.  I know nothing about the two kids from Canada other than one was voted one of the top 15 shooters in any class. But then again, they'll be freshman.

Of the current returners, I still have hope for Jerome Palm and you have to love the athleticism of Ibra Bayu.  I also think Max Nelson has some upside.  That leave a LOT of space to fill, from a talent standpoint.  A very big challenge for the new coach.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: AlaskaCrusader19 on March 25, 2023, 11:32:18 AM
Quote from: vu72 on March 25, 2023, 09:10:41 AM
We'll see if the signee's stay signed.  One of them is Zane Doughty from Ben Davis, the 10th ranked team in the nation.  I watched one of their games and thr announcer described him as the best, back to the basket 5 in the state.  I know nothing about the two kids from Canada other than one was voted one of the top 15 shooters in any class. But then again, they'll be freshman.

Of the current returners, I still have hope for Jerome Palm and you have to love the athleticism of Ibra Bayu.  I also think Max Nelson has some upside.  That leave a LOT of space to fill, from a talent standpoint.  A very big challenge for the new coach.
Zane Doughty is a solid player. Holding onto him would be really nice for the next staff. He is not, however, the best center in the state lol. Flory Bidunga takes the cake there.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: vu72 on March 25, 2023, 12:24:34 PM
Quote from: AlaskaCrusader19 on March 25, 2023, 11:32:18 AM
Quote from: vu72 on March 25, 2023, 09:10:41 AM
We'll see if the signee's stay signed.  One of them is Zane Doughty from Ben Davis, the 10th ranked team in the nation.  I watched one of their games and thr announcer described him as the best, back to the basket 5 in the state.  I know nothing about the two kids from Canada other than one was voted one of the top 15 shooters in any class. But then again, they'll be freshman.

Of the current returners, I still have hope for Jerome Palm and you have to love the athleticism of Ibra Bayu.  I also think Max Nelson has some upside.  That leave a LOT of space to fill, from a talent standpoint.  A very big challenge for the new coach.
Zane Doughty is a solid player. Holding onto him would be really nice for the next staff. He is not, however, the best center in the state lol. Flory Bidunga takes the cake there.

The announcer didn't say he was the best center but rather the best "back to the basket" center.  In video I haven't seen him have range beyond 3 feet!
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: historyman on March 25, 2023, 12:36:44 PM
Quote from: AlaskaCrusader19 on March 25, 2023, 11:32:18 AM
Quote from: vu72 on March 25, 2023, 09:10:41 AM
We'll see if the signee's stay signed.  One of them is Zane Doughty from Ben Davis, the 10th ranked team in the nation.  I watched one of their games and thr announcer described him as the best, back to the basket 5 in the state.  I know nothing about the two kids from Canada other than one was voted one of the top 15 shooters in any class. But then again, they'll be freshman.

Of the current returners, I still have hope for Jerome Palm and you have to love the athleticism of Ibra Bayu.  I also think Max Nelson has some upside.  That leave a LOT of space to fill, from a talent standpoint.  A very big challenge for the new coach.
Zane Doughty is a solid player. Holding onto him would be really nice for the next staff. He is not, however, the best center in the state lol. Flory Bidunga takes the cake there.

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2023/03/22/indiana-high-school-boys-basketball-all-state-teams-supreme (https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2023/03/22/indiana-high-school-boys-basketball-all-state-teams-supreme-15-announved/70037473007/)



Supreme 15

                Xavier Booker, Cathedral

                Markus Burton, Penn

                Myles Colvin, Heritage Christian

                Zane Doughty, Ben Davis

                Joey Hart, Linton-Stockton

                Logan Imes, Zionsville

                Mason Jones, Valparaiso

                A.J. Lux, Crown Point

                Sam Orme, Carmel

                Ian Raasch, NorthWood

                JaQualon Roberts, Bloomington


[color=var(--type-primary,#303030)][size=calc(16px + 2 * ((100vw - 320px) / 880))]Sheridan Sharp, Ben Davis[/size][/color]
[color=var(--type-primary,#303030)][/size][size=calc(16px + 2 * ((100vw - 320px) / 880))] Jaron Tibbs, Cathedral[/size][/color]
[color=var(--type-primary,#303030)][/size][size=calc(16px + 2 * ((100vw - 320px) / 880))]Brandon Trilli, Munster[/size][/color]
[color=var(--type-primary,#303030)][/size][size=calc(16px + 2 * ((100vw - 320px) / 880))]Ashton Williamson, Gary 21st Century[/size][/color]

Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: valpopal on March 25, 2023, 01:30:05 PM
Quote from: historyman on March 24, 2023, 07:45:58 PM
I'm really starting to wonder where the money came from. I guess we'll never find out.
Although we may not get specifics, we probably will hear something—considering the current economic situation on campus and issues about faculty compensation, art sales, dorm construction, possible property purchases, ARC renovations, etc.—since there will be a need to clarify about where the money did not come from. For the sake of public relations, let's hope this was a donor who stipulated the spending for this purpose.

When you look at the cost of this coaching change, the total becomes significant. If what has been mentioned on this forum is correct, there is the Lottich buyout estimated at $700,000 plus maybe some compensation for two years of lost medical and pension benefits. The search firm lists its normal fee as 30% of the new coach's first-year salary. Assuming a hike from Lottich's $350,000 to only a modest $400,000, that would mean a fee of $120,000. (Sometimes the firm agrees to a discount flat fee, perhaps $100,000.) Additionally, the assumed $400,000 new salary instead of Lottich's $350,000 adds an extra $100,000 to the sum for the next two years. The new coach would probably expect assistance with real estate matters and moving fees. Moreover, there would need to be expenses related to arrangements hiring new assistant coaches and staff. Not counting other miscellaneous costs, speculation would be an approximate total of $1 million.   
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: usc4valpo on March 25, 2023, 02:51:55 PM
Crumbs compared to the big picture to keep this program and university sustainable. Valpo made a mistake with the extension, and now they are resolving the mistake. Also, getting into finding an agency and relocation fees is really getting into the noise.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: wh on March 25, 2023, 03:52:42 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on March 25, 2023, 02:51:55 PM
Crumbs compared to the big picture to keep this program and university sustainable. Valpo made a mistake with the extension, and now they are resolving the mistake. Also, getting into finding an agency and relocation fees is really getting into the noise.

To Pal's point, realistically this could cost up to a million dollars. I'm just repeating myself, but the university has far more pressing issues right now than replacing an athletic coach and eating the remainder of his contract. Again, I'm glad we're getting a new coach, as long as private donors footed the bill. Otherwise, it's a shortsighted and and irresponsible decision IMHO. And, please remember, I'm saying that as someone who deeply cares about Valpo bb.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: usc4valpo on March 25, 2023, 04:29:17 PM
I get it, but keeping  Lottich would have shown  no commitment to succeed in D1 basketball. I also doubt Valpo would throw money like a drunken sailor. Surely there was something settled to make this move.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: tjjvalpo on March 25, 2023, 05:57:54 PM
Personally, I think we are overlooking what the revenue that was generated 5 years ago. Average attendance approaching 4000 fans per game at average price of $20 per ticket ($25 for chairback, $15 for bleacher seats) at 15 home games. Then, there used to be about 500 Crusader Club Members that would pay additional $100 per ticket that looks like it had dwindled down to less than 50 this past season. I anm sure that other donations to Athletic Department from Alumni also dwindle. I am sure that Small was able to go back and look at revenue that used to be generated (somewhere between $500,000 to $750,000 per year). So, removing Lottich, regardless of the short term cost was very justifiable.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: vu72 on March 25, 2023, 06:47:07 PM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on March 24, 2023, 01:01:16 PM
Over on the MVC board they are trashing Valpo as the "worst coaching job in the league" based mostly on our gym. 

With this coaching change, we are about to find out if that is true or not.      Personally, I think there are LOTS of good basketball players out there.    There is plenty of talent to go around.    Coaching is the hard part.   

Would love to see a list of everybody who applies.   Would tell us a lot on what people nationally think of Valpo.       

Does history of success trump a bad gym as far as talented coaches thinking they can win here.     We are about to learn what we are or what we are not.   
That is truly laughable! Tell Evansville, the true cellar of our league to look at the facilities of Nebraska and their accompanying success. Laughable.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: usc4valpo on March 25, 2023, 08:25:43 PM
Nebraska?
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: may know on March 25, 2023, 08:37:11 PM
Everyone in the B1G has good facilities. By default, someone with good facilities ends up in the cellar.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: historyman on March 26, 2023, 12:32:52 AM
Quote from: vu72 on March 25, 2023, 12:24:34 PMFlory Bidunga

Sounds like something you say when exclaming about winning



Now that Matt Lottich is gone I feel like this Jerry Seinfeld quote:

"I can't go to a bad movie by myself. What, am I gonna make sarcastic remarks to strangers?"
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: wh on March 26, 2023, 01:51:15 AM
Quote from: tjjvalpo on March 25, 2023, 05:57:54 PM
Personally, I think we are overlooking what the revenue that was generated 5 years ago. Average attendance approaching 4000 fans per game at average price of $20 per ticket ($25 for chairback, $15 for bleacher seats) at 15 home games. Then, there used to be about 500 Crusader Club Members that would pay additional $100 per ticket that looks like it had dwindled down to less than 50 this past season. I anm sure that other donations to Athletic Department from Alumni also dwindle. I am sure that Small was able to go back and look at revenue that used to be generated (somewhere between $500,000 to $750,000 per year). So, removing Lottich, regardless of the short term cost was very justifiable.

You make a fair point.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: wh on March 26, 2023, 02:25:32 AM
Quote from: vu72 on March 25, 2023, 12:24:34 PM
Quote from: AlaskaCrusader19 on March 25, 2023, 11:32:18 AM
Quote from: vu72 on March 25, 2023, 09:10:41 AM
We'll see if the signee's stay signed.  One of them is Zane Doughty from Ben Davis, the 10th ranked team in the nation.  I watched one of their games and thr announcer described him as the best, back to the basket 5 in the state.  I know nothing about the two kids from Canada other than one was voted one of the top 15 shooters in any class. But then again, they'll be freshman.

Of the current returners, I still have hope for Jerome Palm and you have to love the athleticism of Ibra Bayu.  I also think Max Nelson has some upside.  That leave a LOT of space to fill, from a talent standpoint.  A very big challenge for the new coach.
Zane Doughty is a solid player. Holding onto him would be really nice for the next staff. He is not, however, the best center in the state lol. Flory Bidunga takes the cake there.

The announcer didn't say he was the best center but rather the best "back to the basket" center.  In video I haven't seen him have range beyond 3 feet!


I just watched highlights of the state championship game. This is big time HS BB on a big time stage. Doughty was the leading scorer on either side with 20 points on 10-13 FG's. VERY intense (maybe frenetic is better lol). Nice jump hook up to 8' (maybe) and good (very good?) vertical. MVC caliber player. Best Valpo recruit since Krikke?

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Post by: valpofb16 on March 26, 2023, 08:08:01 AM
Being from Indy can vouch, winning 6A state is probably best athletic achievement you can do in the IHSAA.

To compound that with being the best player on both teams. Very impressive.

Really hope he stays. Don't know rules but with LOI signed I think he will at least be here next year.
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Post by: vu72 on March 26, 2023, 08:08:33 AM
Quote from: usc4valpo on March 25, 2023, 08:25:43 PM
Nebraska?

Yep.  Take a look at their basketball facilities.  They are ridiculously over done.  Nonetheless, their program sucks. My point is simple, facilities don't win games, players do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtyAsWFF0Fw
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Post by: usc4valpo on March 26, 2023, 08:47:14 AM
Thanks, I was trying to understand where you were going. I would never expect Valpo or any MVC team to have facilities like that. However, I would expect better than what Valpo provides today.

I am very proud that Valpo made a decision to commit to the basketball program and feel confident they will work methodically yet quickly to establish a decent coaching staff. This decision in the middle of challenging economic times was difficult, but it showed that long term, big picture evaluation was carried out.
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Post by: valporun on March 26, 2023, 11:31:08 AM
Watched the video of Nebraska's practice facility...while all fine and dandy...I hope none of the guys were watching either upset game while sitting in the bathroom in that locker room...the #2s might have had a bit more than expected. To be honest though, do all of these fancy things help them win basketball games like making their shots and playing defense does? Nebraska goes through football and basketball coaches like crazy these days. Thankfully, they have all of the B1G money from television contracts and the NCAA tournament coming in, along with all the money from taxpayers. That's where their ability to have such fancy digs is coming from. Do we have enough donors that could put together the money for a new basketball facility that matches what would make Valpo Basketball a winning program, or do we just have people with a lot of money?
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Post by: valpo64 on March 26, 2023, 12:23:37 PM
Does Paul Oren have any idea of when a decision will be made?  I hope it is soon so recruiting can be completed and the trransfer  situation can be settled.
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Post by: historyman on March 26, 2023, 12:47:29 PM
Quote from: valpo64 on March 26, 2023, 12:23:37 PM
Does Paul Oren have any idea of when a decision will be made?  I hope it is soon so recruiting can be completed and the trransfer  situation can be settled.

That would be terrrific if he could tell us.  ;)
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Post by: usc4valpo on March 26, 2023, 01:10:53 PM
What decision?
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Post by: wh on March 26, 2023, 01:36:11 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on March 26, 2023, 01:10:53 PM
What decision?

At what point did you lose consciousness, Mr. Van Winkle, so we know where to begin? lol
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Post by: usc4valpo on March 26, 2023, 01:39:10 PM
The new coach? That needs to be thorough yet quick. It may take a few weeks - cripe, it took a few weeks to fire Lottich after the season was over.
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Post by: wh on March 26, 2023, 04:55:17 PM
Quote from: vu72 on March 26, 2023, 08:08:33 AM
Quote from: usc4valpo on March 25, 2023, 08:25:43 PM
Nebraska?

Yep.  Take a look at their basketball facilities.  They are ridiculously over done.  Nonetheless, their program sucks. My point is simple, facilities don't win games, players do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtyAsWFF0Fw


I agree that great facilities don't guarantee success. That said, I think it's also fair to say that inferior facilities relative to our direct competitors present recruiting challenges above and beyond the rest. The last thing any coaching staff needs is an extra hill to climb.
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Post by: VU2014 on March 26, 2023, 04:57:20 PM
https://twitter.com/bakari_evelyn11/status/1639038108682571781?s=46&t=cNk7taMAYtxNl1Q0_O79Gw

https://twitter.com/bakari_evelyn11/status/1639038526066130945?s=46&t=cNk7taMAYtxNl1Q0_O79Gw
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Post by: vu72 on March 26, 2023, 04:57:26 PM
Quote from: valpo22 on March 26, 2023, 03:20:59 PMSo on the day-to-day, maybe there's a risk of the Valpo student experience just not being that different from HS except that the instructors teach more different classes in a day intsead of the same section repeated, and the instructor packs up and moves between rooms instead of the students going to the teacher's home room.

22, I'm not sure whether or not you are just discouraged or aren't focused on all the good things about a Valpo education.  No different than HS? Really?  Can you get an RN degree in HS?  Can you get a degree in Accounting so you can sit for the CPA exam?  Can you get a pre-med degree to get into Med school?  College isn't high school!  Coffee shops?  Really?  The union may be the only place to eat but it isn't like your choices are the meatloaf and green beans or frozen pizza!

Valpo has facilities and equipment that many privates would die for.  Can you experience using a Doppler radar while studying Meteorology at other private colleges? Can you study pre-med including a human cadaver lab? Can you study engineering including the use of a solar furnace? Can you prepare for a profession in TV or radio at places without their own TV studio or radio station? Did you forget all the advanced facilities and equipment that is available to Valpo students?

All of the professional colleges have chapters of the highest academic societies in their field, including Phi Beta Kappa--only 285 colleges have a chapter. They weren't accepted because they were sub-par in their fields.  College isn't high school.  If students are focused on coffee shops and food choices or partying, then perhaps college, particularly with the costs involved, isn't the right direction.  If they are focused on small classes with dedicated faculty who actually know their names, then perhaps Valpo could be a very good choice.
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Post by: tiny707 on March 26, 2023, 05:50:32 PM
VU72, not sure the competition for students is the other private institutions. May be the public ones. I have been on many campus tours recently and there is a big difference. The freshmen dorms sucked when we looked at them at  Valpo. Embarrassing. At 2100 students it is now below many high schools. Most of my Alumni friends kids have gone to IU, Purdue and Ball State.
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Post by: VULB#62 on March 26, 2023, 05:59:45 PM
Whoa! If I read this right, there is some big-time history goin on here.

Quote from: VU2014 on March 26, 2023, 04:57:20 PM
https://twitter.com/bakari_evelyn11/status/1639038108682571781?s=46&t=cNk7taMAYtxNl1Q0_O79Gw

https://twitter.com/bakari_evelyn11/status/1639038526066130945?s=46&t=cNk7taMAYtxNl1Q0_O79Gw
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Post by: wh on March 26, 2023, 06:06:22 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 26, 2023, 04:57:20 PM
https://twitter.com/bakari_evelyn11/status/1639038108682571781?s=46&t=cNk7taMAYtxNl1Q0_O79Gw

Bakari is further evidence that Matt had poor coaching judgement. He allowed a 34%FG/30%3FG shooter carte blanche to shoot at will. Setting a player up for failure. Bad Matt! Poor Bakari!
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Post by: vok22 on March 26, 2023, 06:07:29 PM
Quote from: vu72 on March 26, 2023, 04:57:26 PM
Quote from: valpo22 on March 26, 2023, 03:20:59 PMCan you experience using a Doppler radar while studying Meteorology at other private colleges?

To be fair, you can't do this at Valpo either. Their Doppler has been down for almost 3 years and hasn't been fixed (reportedly due to money).
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Post by: VULB#62 on March 26, 2023, 06:19:56 PM
Quote from: valpo22 on March 26, 2023, 06:04:57 PM
62, Can u translate the memes?

No, not precisely, 22. Probably before you got on campus. But WH aluded to a problem from the get-go when Bakari xfered in from Nebraska (I think).  Help me people!  At one point in a game I remember him leaving the court (going to the locker room. Mid-game) and Kiser going after him to get him back.  He was a landmine in every game and refused to run plays unless he was the go-to.  Matt accommodated the petulant child for way too long and this is what he gets for it. Other coaches probably would have found a way to sideline him to the point of leaving the team in the middle of the season. Matt didn't. But Evelyn eventually caused enough turmoil and pulled some other players to xfer out. It was a disaster.

His two postings show how much hate/contempt/lack of respect the guy had bottled up inside of him.  Other posters, please correct my failing memory (or add other salacious moments)..
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Post by: justducky on March 26, 2023, 07:24:31 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 26, 2023, 06:19:56 PMBakari xfered in from Nebraska (I think).  Help me people!

Came from Nebraska and departed to Iowa. Never could follow his thinking and I believe he left with or just ahead of Smitts and Sorolla. Weren't we a better team that following year?
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Post by: justducky on March 26, 2023, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: justducky on March 26, 2023, 07:24:31 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 26, 2023, 06:19:56 PMBakari xfered in from Nebraska (I think).  Help me people!

Came from Nebraska and departed to Iowa. Never could follow his thinking and I believe he left with or just ahead of Smitts and Sorolla. Weren't we a better team that following year?

Yes that was the addition by subtraction year. Smitts to Butler, Sorolla to Cincinnati, Bakari to Iowa with all 3 being seniors BUT  :o the team won a few games in St Louis. I think Golder left too for maybe Portland?
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Post by: VULB#62 on March 26, 2023, 08:03:41 PM
Yes Golder left. He was the guy I wished had stayed.
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Post by: AB on March 26, 2023, 08:10:08 PM
They all left/announced that week and Javon did on Thursday, before he came back. That group did not like him for whatever reason. He was asked on a pod cast what happened to that team and he just said "thats an interesting question" He also said that guys were uncomfortable with their rolls and you could see that. He was not exactly a stat stuffer at Iowa. Carved out a nice niche for 25 minutes a game, ball handler, occasional assist and shots made.
        All the guys that left really had no impact at their new school. Smits career ending injury, Sorolla quit in January, Grass wasn't greener at UC, Golder looked washed up and injured at Portland State. Some Karma. Let's hope the new coach can recruit/identify the talent and harness that talent/get the most out of them/find successful rolls.
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Post by: VU2014 on March 26, 2023, 08:10:46 PM
Bakari played a selfish brand of basketball and often tried to play "hero ball" in iso situations against the Coaching staffs will. Lottich often said we don't need "me first" players. Bakari clearly took exception to those comments.

This isn't anything new. Bakari had taken shots at Lottich in the past. Not saying Bakari is a bad guy here but the guy had quite the ego for the lack of production he brought to the table. He was also buddies with Joe Burton and Lottich cut his buddy for lack of academic performance. That whole era had a tumultuous exit with Lottich if you guys remember. Bakari, Joe Burton, Golder, & Nick Robinson. Lottich is a no bs guy and holds people to high standards. That style ruffled some feathers. Ultimately that was on Lottich and the staff for not vetting players better to be the proper culture fit for the school. 

He's taking shots on Lottich's way out. It is what it is.
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Post by: VULB#62 on March 26, 2023, 08:20:22 PM
CHARACTER. INTEGRITY.  DIGNITY. DETERMINATION.  Basketball skills.  That's Ben. That's Alec. That's Rowdy. That's KVW.  That's Bryce. That's Buggsy.  That's ..........  all the great players we've had over time.

We are a small school and we need to find those types of players with a fire in their gut to out-play 4* and 5* prima donnas. It can be done. This year's Final Four proves it.  Our next coach has to have the qualities to create that atmosphere and culture. It can be done.

Dr. Small, go find that guy!
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Post by: AlaskaCrusader19 on March 27, 2023, 07:26:55 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 26, 2023, 04:57:20 PM
https://twitter.com/bakari_evelyn11/status/1639038108682571781?s=46&t=cNk7taMAYtxNl1Q0_O79Gw

https://twitter.com/bakari_evelyn11/status/1639038526066130945?s=46&t=cNk7taMAYtxNl1Q0_O79Gw
Not that Bakari Evelyn was ever some great player, but this doesn't reflect well on Lottich, obviously. Valpo made the right call. Now, hire the right guy no matter how long it takes.
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Post by: NativeCheesehead on March 27, 2023, 07:54:33 AM
I don't think those posts reflect poorly on ML, I think they reflect very poorly on Bakari.

Listen, we've all been friends with / worked with / know someone like him. Someone whose failure to live up to their potential is always someone else's fault. This guy will spend the rest of his life complaining about teammates, coaches, bosses, coworkers, etc. No one on this board shed a tear when he left and he won't even be the answer to a trivia question for the fans at Nebraska and Iowa.
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Post by: usc4valpo on March 27, 2023, 07:58:59 AM
He is making himself look like an ass and only hurting himself in whatever future endeavors he wants to accomplish.
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Post by: justducky on March 27, 2023, 08:42:00 AM
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on March 27, 2023, 07:54:33 AMNo one on this board shed a tear when he left and he won't even be the answer to a trivia question for the fans at Nebraska and Iowa.

I had hoped that Sorolla and Golder would have stayed but would Clay and Krikke still have had the scholarship openings? It doesn't really matter because the point remains that fresh starts when needed can be a great thing.
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Post by: historyman on March 27, 2023, 11:33:26 AM
Quote from: vu72 on March 26, 2023, 04:57:26 PMThe union may be the only place to eat but it isn't like your choices are the meatloaf and green beans or frozen pizza!

Actually the Bell & Beacon at the Union is very good. For a senior citizen it's between $8 & $9 all you can eat and the food selection is very good.
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Post by: JD24 on March 27, 2023, 11:52:04 AM
Quote from: AlaskaCrusader19 on March 27, 2023, 07:26:55 AMNot that Bakari Evelyn was ever some great player, but this doesn't reflect well on Lottich, obviously. Valpo made the right call. Now, hire the right guy no matter how long it takes.
The only person it reflects poorly on is Bakari Evelyn.
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Post by: historyman on March 27, 2023, 12:51:22 PM
Quote from: JD24 on March 27, 2023, 11:52:04 AM
Quote from: AlaskaCrusader19 on March 27, 2023, 07:26:55 AMNot that Bakari Evelyn was ever some great player, but this doesn't reflect well on Lottich, obviously. Valpo made the right call. Now, hire the right guy no matter how long it takes.
The only person it reflects poorly on is Bakari Evelyn.


And Ehingen Urspring in Pro-A Germany the höchstes niveau in Deutschland."


They must be an awful outfit.
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Post by: historyman on March 27, 2023, 05:04:59 PM
Former Hawkeye Bakari Evelyn signs first professional contract (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/iowa/Article/Bakari-Evelyn-Iowa-Hawkeyes-Basketball-Fran-McCaffery-Luka-Garza-Ehingen-Urspring-Germany-171148521/)


"Even early in the year when we were moving him around and it probably wasn't the thing that he was excited about, he just accepted it and did whatever we asked him to do to help us win," Iowa head coach Fran McCaffery said. "That's who he is. And little by little, he's had some great games for us. I mean, just tremendous. And games where he hasn't scored as much, he's been rock solid as a point guard or as a defender. He has the ability to play through a mistake, which veteran guys typically do. But he's been a great fit in that locker room, and that's obviously really critical."
[/color][/size]Evelyn's college career started at Nebraska, went through Valporiasso and ended with a year in Iowa. Throughout his eventful journey, he said that staying in the moment was one of his most valuable lessons.
[/color][/size]"Learning how to stay in the moment," Evelyn said. "I think this generation has a tendency to look ahead and just consumed by outside noise, opinions, media or anything. You can lose focus of the moments you're in. For me, it was learning how to block out everything, be in the moment, be present and don't take anything for granted."
[/color][/size]"I think he fit right in. He was humble and he wanted a chance to be part of something special," Luka Garza said about Evelyn. "He wanted to get to the NCAA Tournament, he wanted to be ranked and there were a lot of things that he hadn't done in his career that he looked for. He's all about the team."
[/color][/size]
[/color][/size]Fran McCaffery had never taken a division one transfer in his coaching career until Evelyn came along. After watching what he had done in his career, the prior relationship and Evelyn's attitude, it was a perfect fit. After the season was underway, the team had nothing but praise for him.
[/color][/size]"No matter what role he had on the team, he just played hard for the time he got," Garza said. "And, obviously, recently he's just been really stepping up for us. He's been huge for us and he's just made an immediate impact on our program and in the locker room as well. He's an upstanding guy and everybody is really good friends with him. I'm really, really good friends with him."
[/color][/size]It was a long road, but now, Evelyn gets to check a childhood dream off his bucket list and live it.
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Post by: crusader05 on March 27, 2023, 05:38:38 PM
I think one of lotticjs biggest issues was that he did not know to recruit players who meshed with his coaching style. He seems to have improved at that BUT ironically ended up with maybe less raw talent which made the holes in his coaching strategy more blatant
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Post by: usc4valpo on March 28, 2023, 05:55:26 AM
There were 2 obvious issues on the Lottich hiring. 1. Lottich did not have enough experience to be a head coach, and he will be a better and successful coach after this. 2. Valpo and MLB was lazy and predictably cheap in a making a quick fix to keep operations moving.
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Post by: valpo64 on March 28, 2023, 08:24:25 AM
Schools always want to make the change to a new coach as soon as possible to keep continuity in returning players, recruits and staff.  In Matts's case blending in transfers was his biggest problem.  In many cases when as new coach arrives and is greeted by a "clean house" with respect to players, it is often easier to start with a whole new group all learning a new system together.  One, or perhaps 2 transfers, or maybe even more newcomers often are very difficult to blend into a new starting five, especially when holdover players are competing for a starting position.   Many coaches have problems with this type of senario.
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Post by: Just Sayin on March 28, 2023, 09:45:46 AM
QuoteFollowing Bruce Weber's firing, Tang took over a team that had two scholarship players, added 13 new faces and blended it into what is currently the best start in the country by a first-year Division I head coach (17-2). The Cats have already won three more games than they did all last season.

The right coach DOES matter.
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Post by: valpo95 on March 28, 2023, 10:29:09 AM
Quote from: usc4valpo on March 28, 2023, 05:55:26 AM
There were 2 obvious issues on the Lottich hiring. 1. Lottich did not have enough experience to be a head coach, and he will be a better and successful coach after this. 2. Valpo and MLB was lazy and predictably cheap in a making a quick fix to keep operations moving.

We should be careful to separate the process of hiring Matt Lottich from the outcome over seven years. Clearly Coach Lottich represented the program with the highest integrity, so it was way better than Evansville hiring Walter McCarty who lasted 1.5 years. I'm also guessing that Bryce and Homer Drew would have had good things to say about Coach Lottich - if they had been against it, it would have been unlikely he would have been offered the job. As far as we know, the players were favorable to promoting Coach Lottich. Also as far as we know, Roger Powell turned down the job, so perhaps MLB was dealing with an unexpected situation, especially with significant financial constraints on hiring a new coach. None of this makes MLB lazy, and it does not make the decision unreasonable.

As to the outcome, if the Horizon League has a real chance to practice at Joe Louis arena in 2016-17, the team doesn't lose a close game to Milwaukee and instead wins the HL and goes on to win a NCAA tournament game. (I don't remember the timing of the injury to Alec Peters, or if he would have been available for an NCAA tournament game.) Such an outcome might have landed a few more high profile recruits and more success rather than a career record just below .500.

I'm not being an apologist for Coach Lottich - the record is what it says, and he had ample opportunities to over seven years to win. He did not, and performance mandated his dismissal. Yet hiring a well-regarded though inexperienced assistant coach is more of a mistake in hindsight rather than an obvious mistake at the time.
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Post by: usc4valpo on March 28, 2023, 10:44:10 AM
In due respect, I see what you are saying but I am not sure I agree. They made a very fast decision and did not really search sufficiently to make an objective decision. I know, easy for me to say seven years later.

Regarding the practice situation at the Joe, I don't buy that circumstance to the downfall and feel like a cop out. Great teams are resillant to situations like that.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: VULB#62 on March 29, 2023, 12:14:50 PM
It's quiet; too quiet.  No real basketball thread activity this morning unlike the previous few weeks. 

I liken this to the eerie quiet just before sunrise. Then, bam, the world is full of light.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: tiny707 on March 29, 2023, 01:00:34 PM
62, the calm before the storm and Final Four weekend almost here for coaches. Also, Matt needs to update his Twitter account....
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Post by: tiny707 on March 29, 2023, 01:07:15 PM
Wonder if Matt will get an assistant job at Cal?
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: VULB#62 on March 29, 2023, 01:20:11 PM
I thought about using the "calm before the storm" metaphor, but chose a more upbeat one cuz we are turning over a new page in Valpo BB history and there's always hope. ;D
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: AlaskaCrusader19 on March 29, 2023, 01:46:04 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 29, 2023, 12:14:50 PM
It's quiet; too quiet.  No real basketball thread activity this morning unlike the previous few weeks. 

I liken this to the eerie quiet just before sunrise. Then, bam, the world is full of light.  :thumbsup:
We're getting closer. I'd be fairly surprised if there's no announcement by this time next week. This weekend should do it if there's nothing by then.
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Post by: wh on March 29, 2023, 05:22:04 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 29, 2023, 12:14:50 PM
It's quiet; too quiet.  No real basketball thread activity this morning unlike the previous few weeks. 

I liken this to the eerie quiet just before sunrise. Then, bam, the world is full of light.  :thumbsup:

When I was young and reckless, my brother-in-law and I borrowed my dad's speed boat and sank it. Trust me, raising a sunken boat and returning it to its former glory is painfully time consuming and expensive. To your point, I don't expect to see much sunshine any time soon.

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Post by: valpopal on March 29, 2023, 06:22:14 PM

Make of this what you will.[tweet]1641214286138572800[/tweet]
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Post by: wh on March 29, 2023, 07:17:19 PM
https://twitter.com/HD_DirtKing/status/1641192168772493315?s=20
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Post by: JD24 on March 29, 2023, 07:23:15 PM
So either nothings happening or somethings happening. I love these twitter guys. I should create an account and just start posting insider stuff and retweeting the real insider stuff. Then I'd be an insider.

Amir Abdul-Rahim went to South Florida and that's a guy I thought Valpo might be interested in.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: elephtheria47 on March 29, 2023, 08:05:21 PM
Open market job searches are beneficial. If you cant get who you think you can get, then its time to upgrade some things if you want to get to that level.  If you dont, then you know where you're heading. How many times do people in that position get honest feedback.
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Post by: vu84v2 on March 29, 2023, 08:19:40 PM
This was posted on ESPN's coaching carousel update today:

A couple of early names at Valparaiso: Iowa State assistant JR Blount and Marquette assistant DeAndre Haynes.

Haynes started at Marquette with Shaka Smart. He was at Maryland and Michigan prior to Marquette. Marquette's profile of Haynes is that his focus is on player development.

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Post by: Just Sayin on March 29, 2023, 08:21:22 PM
https://twitter.com/BruceinNJ/status/1641240725235826688
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Post by: tiny707 on March 29, 2023, 08:29:25 PM
My take on the on the Trilly Twitter post is that Roger Powell is a no(happy at Gonzaga), Jake Diebler is a no(money) and I think the assistant from Rutgers is a no(money).
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Post by: wh on March 29, 2023, 08:32:32 PM
https://twitter.com/BruceinNJ/status/1641240725235826688?s=20
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: vok22 on March 29, 2023, 08:43:57 PM
Quote from: wh on March 29, 2023, 08:32:32 PM[tweet]1641240725235826688[/tweet]?s=20



There is absolutely ZERO chance they are considering Todd Lickliter. So help them if they are.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: JD24 on March 29, 2023, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: tiny707 on March 29, 2023, 08:29:25 PMMy take on the on the Trilly Twitter post is that Roger Powell is a no(happy at Gonzaga), Jake Diebler is a no(money) and I think the assistant from Rutgers is a no(money).
Well then the board collectively should put together a twitter account since these 3 were pretty easy to figure out for many on the board.

Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: JD24 on March 29, 2023, 09:47:48 PM
Quote from: Just Sayin on March 29, 2023, 08:21:22 PMhttps://twitter.com/BruceinNJ/status/1641240725235826688
I hope this Davis cat has no idea what he's talking about.

Bring in either a successful lower level head coach or an assistant looking for a shot. Not the retread brigade.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: tiny707 on March 29, 2023, 10:01:27 PM
Brad Korn is a successful lower level coach.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: vok22 on March 29, 2023, 10:05:03 PM
I hadn't heard of Korn before, but after some research I am intrigued. Turned around dreadful SE Missouri State team in three years, culminating in a tournament appearance. Played under Bruce Weber and Matt Painter. Then worked under Bruce Weber and went to multiple NCAA Tournaments as an assistant. Also had some run time as an assistant in the Valley (Missouri State).
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: tiny707 on March 29, 2023, 10:13:07 PM
Vok22, Brad Korn sounds like the best name so far that they may be talking to and may actually be interested. Checks a lot of boxes.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: tiny707 on March 29, 2023, 10:15:59 PM
Dane Fife, Chris Lowery, Greg Tonagel, Ed Schilling and Terry Johnson I am seeing on Twitter for names.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: Just Sayin on March 29, 2023, 10:35:29 PM
https://twitter.com/theenotoriousjp/status/1641190597728894977?s=61&t=rvVIRCc0Iy1MgHjjNd30UA
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: JD24 on March 29, 2023, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: JD24 on March 29, 2023, 07:23:15 PMAmir Abdul-Rahim went to South Florida and that's a guy I thought Valpo might be interested in.
More on this and likely the reason he wouldn't come to Valpo is that Abdur-Rahim earned $230k at Kennesaw St. last year and he replaces a coach, Brian Gregory, at USF who was signed for over $1mil per. It's thought that this was the starting point for Abdur-Rahim. No way for Valpo on this.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: JD24 on March 29, 2023, 10:53:34 PM
Quote from: tiny707 on March 29, 2023, 10:01:27 PMBrad Korn is a successful lower level coach.
True but I was referring to the other guys.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: wh on March 30, 2023, 05:59:49 AM
Quote from: Just Sayin on March 29, 2023, 10:35:29 PM
https://twitter.com/theenotoriousjp/status/1641190597728894977?s=61&t=rvVIRCc0Iy1MgHjjNd30UA

Thanks to Chris Lowery — a former Sweet 16 head coach — Northwestern's 'D' never rests

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/3/14/23640288/chris-lowery-northwestern-siu-salukis-march-madness

Lowery could be a great selection. Had some huge years as head coach at SIU around 2005-10 time frame when the MVC was loaded.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: valpo64 on March 30, 2023, 07:38:43 AM
Paul Oren's last report was a great assessment of the VU situation.  I like his concluding remark.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: mj on March 30, 2023, 07:56:44 AM
I think we should go with Greg Tonagel. Why? Because he's already shown that he's loyal.

Valpo will only have sustained success with a coach who's dedicated to staying here. We'll be in the same place in a few years if we hire a coach who views Valpo as a stepping stone to bigger and better things. Valpo also has limited resources, so we need a coach who can make more with less.

Hire Tonagel and maybe see if Homer Drew will release a statement announcing his support for him. Hopefully that would fire up the fans.

We shouldn't overthink this.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: usc4valpo on March 30, 2023, 08:14:21 AM
Disagree - too much following of the Valpo family for an NAIA coach.

Go with McCollum.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: Chairback on March 30, 2023, 08:22:35 AM
Paul's article is absolutely right.  My fav one so far. 

No matter who we bring I would expect a higher salary than ML had.  It's just the way the world is right now.  And to think Dr Small and the board didn't realize and plan for it is foolish.  You don't make a move like this thinking you are going to get a good deal or bargain for head coach.  Funding for it has to be there before you act.  Everyone has a conspiracy theory on the funds, but no one knows. 

He already surprised us with the buyout, I'm sure he has planned for this also.  I think we have the right AD.   Valpo got that right. 

Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: AlaskaCrusader19 on March 30, 2023, 09:07:06 AM
Quote from: mj on March 30, 2023, 07:56:44 AM
I think we should go with Greg Tonagel. Why? Because he's already shown that he's loyal.

Valpo will only have sustained success with a coach who's dedicated to staying here. We'll be in the same place in a few years if we hire a coach who views Valpo as a stepping stone to bigger and better things. Valpo also has limited resources, so we need a coach who can make more with less.

Hire Tonagel and maybe see if Homer Drew will release a statement announcing his support for him. Hopefully that would fire up the fans.

We shouldn't overthink this.
Loyalty is great, but Valparaiso is always going to be a "stepping stone" job for coaches if they win at VU.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: usc4valpo on March 30, 2023, 09:34:24 AM
we obviously need to get someone to get the job done and align with Valpo's identity, which is another discussion.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: valpo64 on March 30, 2023, 09:35:12 AM
And as far as being a "stepping stone" position...there is nothing wrong with that.  If you move up, that means you have been successful.  Isn't that what we want?

As far as recruiting goes, very often the assistant coach(es) are the ones who get the job done and rightfully deserve the credit.
(example was Alec Peters.....Roger Powell  was "his man")
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: VULB#62 on March 30, 2023, 09:40:08 AM
Sure, Valpo BB faces budget crunches, poor facilities, a diminishing fan base.  Then there is FAU where BB is a distant second to football - by no means is it a flagship sport.  A shared locker room, crappy 3000 seat gym that hardly anyone goes to to watch games. But they found a heckuva coach and he made it happen when others couldn't. Ya gotta read this story from USAToday.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/columnist/dan-wolken/2023/03/30/florida-atlantic-belongs-final-four-shocking-dusty-may/11563008002/

It's. The. Coach. Plain and simple.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: valpo95 on March 30, 2023, 09:47:37 AM
Quote from: valpo64 on March 30, 2023, 09:35:12 AM
And as far as being a "stepping stone" position...there is nothing wrong with that.  If you move up, that means you have been successful.  Isn't that what we want?

Imagine a future where every 3-5 years Valpo is looking for a new coach because the incumbent gets a P-5 job. In that future, the teams keep winning in the MVC and having regular success in the NCAA tournament. That is a future to which we can aspire.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: tiny707 on March 30, 2023, 10:13:12 AM
Yes, Valpo is a stepping stone. Like Scott going to Baylor and Bryce going to Vanderbilt.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: AB on March 30, 2023, 12:34:36 PM
St. Marys, Gonzaga, Coastal Carolina, UNI. They have stayed the longest at mid major. Beyond that most coaches are all looking to move up to power five. And if you get called to the principals office/FBI Wire taps case.....You go back down to Mid Major...Sean Miller at Xavier., Will Wade to McNeese State. UD wins most years and rarely do the Flyers keep a coach beyond 5, 6 years. If am missing names here, apologies. if so. Soon as you have a break out year or two, you gone. Tobin Anderson gets the record for fastest move up the ladder in 2 years
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: VU2014 on March 30, 2023, 05:49:21 PM
If I'm being fully transparent. I think Jake Diebler checks all boxes for a head coach candidate.

-Young rising star in the coaching ranks.
-experience recruit with Valpo facilities and resources
-knows first hand the challenges the athletics department and the university faces.
-has been an associate HC and filled in for the HC and been the guy at the top seat.
-proven track record in player development
-recruiting ties to the area
-played at the university
-beloved by the fan
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: usc4valpo on March 30, 2023, 06:00:49 PM
The issue is Diebler has Crown Royal taste and it looks like we have a beer budget.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: Saluki on March 31, 2023, 02:12:19 PM
Trust me on this one...you want no part of Chris Lowery. Yes, he had success early off of Weber/Painter players but he left the program a complete wreck.  At the end there were legal troubles all around and the program was facing academic sanctions. The parting words from the AD were that it was time for an adult to lead the program. Maybe he has grown in the 15 years since then, but I would stay well clear of that one.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: Pgmado on March 31, 2023, 02:55:31 PM
Quote from: Saluki on March 31, 2023, 02:12:19 PM
Trust me on this one...you want no part of Chris Lowery. Yes, he had success early off of Weber/Painter players but he left the program a complete wreck.  At the end there were legal troubles all around and the program was facing academic sanctions. The parting words from the AD were that it was time for an adult to lead the program. Maybe he has grown in the 15 years since then, but I would stay well clear of that one.

Brandon Wood sprinted as fast as he could from SIU to get away from Lowery. Next, please.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: wh on March 31, 2023, 03:18:19 PM
Quote from: Saluki on March 31, 2023, 02:12:19 PM
Trust me on this one...you want no part of Chris Lowery. Yes, he had success early off of Weber/Painter players but he left the program a complete wreck.  At the end there were legal troubles all around and the program was facing academic sanctions. The parting words from the AD were that it was time for an adult to lead the program. Maybe he has grown in the 15 years since then, but I would stay well clear of that one.

Yesterday, I posted that Lowery could be a great option. I think I just changed my mind lol. Thanks for the history lesson.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: VULB#62 on March 31, 2023, 04:14:10 PM
Some coaches are at their best working for someone rather than being "the man." Most, however, don't  always realize who they really are.

Luke, on the other hand, IDK but,  I believe he might be an example of a coach who is comfortable in his skin and enjoys being at the assistant level.  Maybe one day he'll give being a college head coach a shot, or maybe not.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: valpotx on March 31, 2023, 07:44:15 PM
I assume that many of you have received the same, but I had a call with Dr. Small the other day, and it was very pleasant.  I didn't want to hammer him with any Men's Basketball HC questions, as I am sure that he is getting more than his fill on that side already.  However, even though I was already very happy about his hire, after this call, I am now even more confident that he will find the right fit for Valpo, and get us back on the winning track!
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: VULB#62 on March 31, 2023, 08:13:09 PM
So, TX, he came across to you in person on a call with the same character he projects in videos, etc. ?  That's great.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: tiny707 on April 04, 2023, 06:43:56 PM
If you want to see what Paul, Brandon Wood and Saluki think about Chris Lowery read above comments.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: valpolaw on April 04, 2023, 07:07:18 PM
That's not very encouraging if that's who we're hiring
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: Just Sayin on April 04, 2023, 08:20:07 PM
Quote from: valpotx on March 31, 2023, 07:44:15 PM
I assume that many of you have received the same, but I had a call with Dr. Small the other day, and it was very pleasant.  I didn't want to hammer him with any Men's Basketball HC questions, as I am sure that he is getting more than his fill on that side already.  However, even though I was already very happy about his hire, after this call, I am now even more confident that he will find the right fit for Valpo, and get us back on the winning track!

What makes you say that?
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: valpotx on April 05, 2023, 01:19:23 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 31, 2023, 08:13:09 PM
So, TX, he came across to you in person on a call with the same character he projects in videos, etc. ?  That's great.

Yes, seemed to have the same level of character, and passion for making the right decision on this hire. 
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: oklahomamick on April 05, 2023, 01:09:20 PM
Has Lottich been hired anywhere else yet?
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: tiny707 on April 05, 2023, 01:32:21 PM
Have to see where head coaches end up to see where Lottich ends up. So maybe he ends up at a P5 assistant job at Northwestern, Gonzaga, Ohio State or Marquette depending on who we hire. Maybe goes into broadcasting like Bryce Drew, Robbie Hummel and Bruce Weber?
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: AlaskaCrusader19 on April 05, 2023, 02:00:05 PM
Quote from: tiny707 on April 05, 2023, 01:32:21 PM
Have to see where head coaches end up to see where Lottich ends up. So maybe he ends up at a P5 assistant job at Northwestern, Gonzaga, Ohio State or Marquette depending on who we hire. Maybe goes into broadcasting like Bryce Drew, Robbie Hummel and Bruce Weber?

Not sure he's that big of a name to get a decent broadcasting gig, but maybe I'm wrong.
Title: Re: MATT LOTTICH HAS BEEN FIRED!
Post by: historyman on April 05, 2023, 04:59:26 PM
Quote from: AlaskaCrusader19 on April 05, 2023, 02:00:05 PM
Quote from: tiny707 on April 05, 2023, 01:32:21 PM
Have to see where head coaches end up to see where Lottich ends up. So maybe he ends up at a P5 assistant job at Northwestern, Gonzaga, Ohio State or Marquette depending on who we hire. Maybe goes into broadcasting like Bryce Drew, Robbie Hummel and Bruce Weber?

Not sure he's that big of a name to get a decent broadcasting gig, but maybe I'm wrong.

I'm not sure he knew Robbie Hummel that well but maybe Robbie has some pull with the big wigs up at the Big Ten channel in Rosemont.