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Title: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on October 31, 2016, 10:44:14 AM
Thrilled to announce that every Monday I'll be hosting a Valparaiso-related podcast on NWI.com entitled "Union Street Hoops." Co-host Parker Gatewood and I will share good stories, have fun guests and take you behind the scenes on everything that's happening on Union Street and around the Horizon League.

Episode 1 reviews Valparaiso's offseason while looking ahead to the future.

I hope you enjoy and I really hope you share the link with all your friends!

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_4330295c-9f7a-11e6-b9e3-8fa6e8bd0715.html
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on October 31, 2016, 11:02:08 AM
Interesting talksalot intro. Nice!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: covufan on October 31, 2016, 11:45:17 AM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/793112708388417537
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on October 31, 2016, 11:54:15 AM
Quote from: bbtds on October 31, 2016, 11:02:08 AMInteresting talksalot intro. Nice!

the "Children" and "No Smoking" have been the two constants over the years... and knowing the speakers! I thought at least the children one was appropriate!

Thanks to Paul and Parker for the shoutout.   by the way guys, it's:  CRUSADER....BASKETBALL on the other team turnovers.


Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valporun on October 31, 2016, 12:01:14 PM
Listened to the first podcast, and it was well done. Look forward to how it develops. I mean right now it is still in "construction phase", or what will there be to discuss, since we don't know a lot about what Matt Lottich will run for offense and defense, who will be definite starters, or who is bringing the ball downcourt as the PG. I know I would like to hear a lot about how the local fanbase is getting excited, or even how excited students are getting about the season, whether the student is a senior ValparaiZone member or a freshman that is new to on-campus college basketball.

Also, maybe this is in the works with their broadcast team, but will there be anything about the women's team during the season, or are you staying strictly men's basketball?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: swiftmutiny on October 31, 2016, 12:21:45 PM
Love it, I'll be looking forward to next week's episode! You forgot "Future American Ninja Warrior" when introducing yourself though, Parker.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Kyle321n on October 31, 2016, 01:27:11 PM
This is great you guys!

Any way you guys could create feed on iTunes? I think it would help drive subscribers and listeners and it'd be easy for someone like me who keeps all their podcasts in one nice a neat location. It would be awesome for me to go from the FiveThirtyEight Podcast to the Jonah Keri Show to Union Street Hoops with the click of a button.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on October 31, 2016, 01:34:33 PM
Quote from: Kyle321n on October 31, 2016, 01:27:11 PM
This is great you guys!

Any way you guys could create feed on iTunes? I think it would help drive subscribers and listeners and it'd be easy for someone like me who keeps all their podcasts in one nice a neat location. It would be awesome for me to go from the FiveThirtyEight Podcast to the Jonah Keri Show to Union Street Hoops with the click of a button.

This is definitely something I'd like to do. The "pay the bills" side of the equation is that having the podcast on NWI.com helps drive people to the site. Hosting on iTunes brings awareness to the site, but doesn't get people there. It's something I'm hoping to work past eventually.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on October 31, 2016, 03:12:54 PM
Awesome!! Thanks Paul and Parker!!! Parker's my boy!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: agibson on October 31, 2016, 10:25:54 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on October 31, 2016, 01:34:33 PMThis is definitely something I'd like to do. The "pay the bills" side of the equation is that having the podcast on NWI.com helps drive people to the site. Hosting on iTunes brings awareness to the site, but doesn't get people there. It's something I'm hoping to work past eventually.

Glad to hear it, and good luck! I'm not so surprised by the "we want clicks argument". But, I, for one, am ten times more likely to listen regularly (OK, maybe three times more likely in this case, since I'm definitely in the target demographic) if I can get it on iTunes, my default podcast medium.

Very cool that you've got a podcast going!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpospartan on October 31, 2016, 10:28:58 PM
I just listened and enjoyed it a lot.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on November 01, 2016, 09:52:12 AM
Very enjoyable, I know you want players on the show, but what about forum members?  ;)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: agibson on November 01, 2016, 10:05:03 AM
Former players should be priorities! Would be great to hear from Vashil, EVic, etc.

Or in the off-season could delve further back into the catalog. Buggs is coaching now, etc.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on November 01, 2016, 10:48:42 AM
Quote from: agibson on November 01, 2016, 10:05:03 AM
Former players should be priorities! Would be great to hear from Vashil, EVic, etc.

Or in the off-season could delve further back into the catalog. Buggs is coaching now, etc.

Almost just as interesting would be former opposition players. After his sister graduates it would be interesting to see if Evan Bruinsma's view of Valpo changed a great deal.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on November 01, 2016, 11:05:21 AM
Quote from: bbtds on November 01, 2016, 10:48:42 AMAlmost just as interesting would be former opposition players. After his sister graduates it would be interesting to see if Evan Bruinsma's view of Valpo changed a great deal.

Stay tuned for Episode 2 then...
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on November 01, 2016, 01:12:28 PM
Nobodies mentioned anything about the point guard situation.  Union Street said that Lexus will get the start.  I was surprised to hear that Max was moved to shooting guard which is where his fellow Canadian plays and where he most likely will get even less playing time.  Finally, it was encouraging to hear about Sorolla and how he will bring a dimension different from Derrik. Also the fact that John Kiser could be a real sleeper with skills.  Great stuff for the starved basketball junkie.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on November 01, 2016, 01:59:49 PM
Way better then the one the UWM fella does with the guy from CSU.  They sound like they are in the back of a windowless van.  :-X
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on November 07, 2016, 10:37:07 AM
Podcast: Union Street Hoops (Episode 2)

NWI Times reporter Paul Oren and co-host Parker Gatewood review Valparaiso's exhibition contest against Hillsdale. Special guests include Jason Karys and E. Victor Nickerson.

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_748e4cec-a48c-11e6-ba24-d7bb55ff7ce9.html
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: dgrmgr on November 07, 2016, 02:17:44 PM
The love for student managers in Episode 2 is thrilling.  Kudos to Karys on the big moment.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on November 07, 2016, 03:40:18 PM
Union Street Hoops is now available on iTunes as well as NWI.com.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: agibson on November 08, 2016, 12:14:14 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on November 07, 2016, 03:40:18 PM
Union Street Hoops is now available on iTunes as well as NWI.com.

Fantastic!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: ValpoFan on November 08, 2016, 02:58:58 PM
I have an android phone. Is there an easy way to get the podcast?
Searching for union street hoops on nwi.com doesn't return any results.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: agibson on November 09, 2016, 01:39:02 PM
Quote from: ValpoFan on November 08, 2016, 02:58:58 PM
I have an android phone. Is there an easy way to get the podcast?
Searching for union street hoops on nwi.com doesn't return any results.

Doubtless there are Android users here who can give you a better answer than I - if not I can try to expand.

I guess there's no iTunes for Android? Is that why Stitcher has made inroads into the podcasting market? Are they the Android alternative?

But, assuming that NWITimes doesn't make the podcast available on an alternate platform like Stitcher: It sounds like you can relatively easily download the podcast onto iTunes on a computer, and then sync/move it from there to your Android phone with the likes of Google Play or Google Drive. Once you get the podcast file onto your computer's iTunes it is, in part, just a file and can presumably be moved over to your Android phone in a variety of ways.

I'm not sure what you'd do if your _only_ computer was an Android phone.

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: a3uge on November 09, 2016, 04:02:46 PM
Quote from: ValpoFan on November 08, 2016, 02:58:58 PM
I have an android phone. Is there an easy way to get the podcast?
Searching for union street hoops on nwi.com doesn't return any results.

A)

Try the soundcloud app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.soundcloud.android&hl=en

The feed is here:

http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:266379182/sounds.rss

B)

Try the Pocket Casts app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=au.com.shiftyjelly.pocketcasts&hl=en

This is what I use, and it's okay. I submitted the feed to their site, so it should show up if you search union street hoops. If not, paste that same feed in.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: ValpoFan on November 10, 2016, 12:32:45 AM
Thank you guys for the help. Sound cloud worked great!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on November 10, 2016, 09:48:38 AM
Interesting story about the Southern Utah Championship game.  Expounding on that a little bit, Homer had a punishment, or should I say consequence, for any team or staff member that was caught swearing.  When we later went into the locker room he apologized for his indiscretion and said that he would be punishing himself for his innapropriate behavior.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on November 10, 2016, 09:52:18 AM
Quote from: FWalum on November 10, 2016, 09:48:38 AM
Interesting story about the Southern Utah Championship game.  Expounding on that a little bit, Homer had a punishment, or should I say consequence, for any team or staff member that was caught swearing.  When we later went into the locker room he apologized for his indiscretion and said that he would be punishing himself for his innapropriate behavior.

A little bit of Martin Luther in Homer, huh?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: ValpoFan on November 14, 2016, 05:57:31 PM
Episode 3?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: agibson on November 14, 2016, 06:39:37 PM
Quote from: ValpoFan on November 14, 2016, 05:57:31 PM
Episode 3?

The Max Joseph episode!

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Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on November 15, 2016, 01:14:39 PM
Union Street Hoops episode 3 is up.

https://soundcloud.com/user-734435464/union-street-hoops-episode-3
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on November 17, 2016, 06:25:12 AM
TCC

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1ASUT_enUS517US517&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Trinity+Christian+College
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on November 22, 2016, 01:57:36 PM
episode 4?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Kyle321n on November 22, 2016, 02:52:27 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on November 22, 2016, 01:57:36 PM
episode 4?

Paul's in Vegas. He's probably got more "important" things to do than do the podcast.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on November 22, 2016, 03:10:58 PM
and if he waits until next Monday... he can talk all about the Ball State game and preview the URI game without having to worry about little things like beating a power5 team and the BYU Rematch!    Power to the Smorgasbord! 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on November 27, 2016, 10:49:54 AM
Episode 4 is up. Had the chance to meet up with former Valpo player/coach Jake Diebler. Some great stories in here.

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_4a5a1aaa-b23d-11e6-8a17-63ff56be9d22.html
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on November 27, 2016, 11:56:09 AM
Quote from: Pgmado on November 27, 2016, 10:49:54 AM
Episode 4 is up. Had the chance to meet up with former Valpo player/coach Jake Diebler. Some great stories in here.

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_4a5a1aaa-b23d-11e6-8a17-63ff56be9d22.html

Great Jake Diebler interview!  Loved the the "broken nose" story. His nose is on the side of his face and his dad tells him to get back out there. Great stuff!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on November 29, 2016, 12:36:59 PM
Another great Union Street Hoops Episode. A really great Vegas story from Paul lol

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_ec342a6e-b5bc-11e6-8e82-b339ce6afaab.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/803636797729161216

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on November 29, 2016, 02:03:28 PM
(https://cdn.getyourguide.com/img/tour_img-153221-145.jpg)


Columbia River Gorge
(listen to the podcast to find out why I posted this pic.)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: agibson on November 29, 2016, 02:46:16 PM
Quote from: bbtds on November 29, 2016, 02:03:28 PMColumbia River Gorge
(listen to the podcast to find out why I posted this pic.)

You mean it's not the Washington River, after all?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: covufan on November 29, 2016, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: bbtds on November 29, 2016, 02:03:28 PM
(https://cdn.getyourguide.com/img/tour_img-153221-145.jpg)


Columbia River Gorge
(listen to the podcast to find out why I posted this pic.)
Because Ricky Nolasco got lost looking for the Oregon River, and that is his car in the picture?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: covufan on November 29, 2016, 03:40:29 PM
Special guest for 5b = winner, winner chicken dinner?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: agibson on November 29, 2016, 10:42:15 PM
Quote from: covufan on November 29, 2016, 03:40:29 PM
Special guest for 5b = winner, winner chicken dinner?

Yeah, where do you go for fried chicken in Valpo? Adam does seem to have a fondness for KFC.

It does smell good from Eastgate, now and then...

There are the wings at Shoes, but wings != fried chicken.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on November 29, 2016, 11:19:47 PM
Quote from: agibson on November 29, 2016, 10:42:15 PM
Quote from: covufan on November 29, 2016, 03:40:29 PM
Special guest for 5b = winner, winner chicken dinner?

Yeah, where do you go for fried chicken in Valpo? Adam does seem to have a fondness for KFC.

It does smell good from Eastgate, now and then...

There are the wings at Shoes, but wings != fried chicken.

Maybe volleyball player Sydney Bronner could bring some back with her next time she goes home to Frankenmuth.
Title: Union Street Hoops
Post by: covufan on November 30, 2016, 07:09:19 PM
No number 5b and I don't have enough digits for six:

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode-rhode-island/audio_2e46ea24-b750-11e6-8941-67c440b18fc4.html
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on November 30, 2016, 07:40:13 PM
Chris Sparks?  The Rockford Rocket!

Vince Humphrey?

Other notables seen around the ARC recently?   Kevin Mackey?  Joey Meier?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on December 07, 2016, 07:06:37 AM
Big fan of the show! 

There was a question on episode 5b....
should the students storm the court?  Absolutely!  Great experience for the student fans and the crusader bball team. 

Were we expected to beat Rhode island at home? Vegas didn't think so but crusader fans expect it.  Even though we haven't beaten a ranked opponent in 18 years. 

How often do we host a ranked opponent?  There's a good chance that the fans who stormed the court and the basketball players themselves will not see another ranked team at the ARC for the rest of their time at Valpo. 

So what chances are there for the VU student/fan to storm the court and join their team?  The conference tournament semi or final?  No that's in Detroit now.  So the opportunity of having a big game at the ARC is small.  We had a good feeling we would beat ranked rhode islabd and we expected it.  But this might be the only chance in their VU career to rush the court.  Go for it.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on December 07, 2016, 09:02:27 AM
You could have named the 6th show for one of the Sixth Man Award winners.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: justducky on December 07, 2016, 09:51:06 AM
Quote from: talksalot on November 30, 2016, 07:40:13 PMOther notables seen around the ARC recently?   Kevin Mackey?  Joey Meier?
And Mackey would be scouting for who?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: agibson on December 07, 2016, 10:31:35 AM
Quote from: oklahomamick on December 07, 2016, 07:06:37 AM
But this might be the only chance in their VU career to rush the court.  Go for it.

Definitely a valid storming. And the stewards were clearly allowing it, roped off (slowly) the chair backs and handshake line, but not the student section.

I suppose you could storm the court for clinching a conference championship. But that's not always at home, and not always dramatic. (And now gets you only a single bye and a favorable matchup.)

I'm still disappointed they didn't cut down the nets after the NIT quarter finals!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: covufan on December 07, 2016, 10:57:49 AM
Quote from: justducky on December 07, 2016, 09:51:06 AM
Quote from: talksalot on November 30, 2016, 07:40:13 PMOther notables seen around the ARC recently?   Kevin Mackey?  Joey Meier?
And Mackey would be scouting for who?
Gap dwelling?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on December 07, 2016, 11:09:18 AM
Quote from: justducky on December 07, 2016, 09:51:06 AM
Quote from: talksalot on November 30, 2016, 07:40:13 PMOther notables seen around the ARC recently?   Kevin Mackey?  Joey Meier?
And Mackey would be scouting for who?

according to wikipedia:

In 2004, Mackey was hired as a scout for the Indiana Pacers of the NBA. Pacers basketball operations president Larry Bird, whose early days with the Boston Celtics coincided with Mackey's tenure at Boston College, had long admired Mackey. He'd originally gotten in touch with Mackey in 2002 during his abortive bid for what became the Charlotte Bobcats.[5] Mackey is still with the team as of the 2013-14 season.[11]
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: zvillehaze on December 13, 2016, 10:23:25 PM
A new episode is available.  Good stuff ... I really enjoy these and hope they continue throughout the season.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on December 14, 2016, 11:21:15 AM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/808743097219842048

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_0c3b1f6c-c110-11e6-ba6b-e7c6542e1d68.html
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Smj on December 14, 2016, 08:10:13 PM
I just want to say that if you have not listened to these podcasts...  you are really missing out.

THESE ARE GREAT.....

Sent from my SM-G920R4 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on December 26, 2016, 12:51:39 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/813218300536782848

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode-a-very-special-christmas-episode/audio_e68a5b3e-cb14-11e6-a720-6f0079c7aa5b.html
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2624 on December 27, 2016, 10:14:53 AM
I'll throw in my kudos on these podcasts. Very entertaining.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on December 27, 2016, 12:29:29 PM
@FauxmerDrew guys on the last podcast! Hilarious!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: chef on December 27, 2016, 11:05:27 PM
great stuff...said they've followed Valpo basketball for six years. Thus they're likely former students who graduated a couple of years ago. Perhaps a VU2014.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: a3uge on December 29, 2016, 08:21:07 AM
Quote from: chef on December 27, 2016, 11:05:27 PM
great stuff...said they've followed Valpo basketball for six years. Thus they're likely former students who graduated a couple of years ago. Perhaps a VU2014.

They went to school in Nebraska - they aren't former students.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on December 31, 2016, 02:43:41 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/814546610105581568

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_9a42f56c-cdf6-11e6-a837-3380c035b2f7.html

"NWI Times reporter Paul Oren is joined by a pair of special guests to preview the 2016-17 Horizon League season. Former Horizon League Director of Communications Bill Potter talks about a litany of conference topics. ESPN broadcaster Jordan Bernfield then joins the program to preview Friday's nationally-televised game between Valparaiso and UIC."
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on January 04, 2017, 05:20:49 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/816785546852888576

This was my favorite episode yet. Tarrance Price had some great things to say about following the Sweet Sixteen team as well as hitting four 3-pointers in 54 seconds to beat Oakland in Kampe's first trip to the ARC.

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on January 04, 2017, 08:57:25 PM
Price was our C team coach in high school.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on January 04, 2017, 11:23:06 PM
For the next Oakland game, can you get Phil Wille on, in order to discuss his Oakland experience ;)?  Two big men sprawled out on the floor, lanky arms/legs flying.  That was greatness.  I believe that he is an Associate Director of Compliance at Ohio State now.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on January 04, 2017, 11:41:58 PM
Great podcast. For a more recent Alumni its great to hear from the former players like Tarrance Price that were a little before my time.

Guess who else gave the Podcast a listen lol

https://twitter.com/KampeOU/status/816789197751250945
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/816785546852888576
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: covufan on January 05, 2017, 10:26:51 AM
https://twitter.com/KampeOU/status/816789197751250945?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Now we really need Tarrance to deliver game ball!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on January 05, 2017, 04:51:17 PM
PO referenced Valpo fans not liking Kampe.  I don't know if that is true or not, but I have never had an issue with him.  I do think that he is a more approachable/honest coach than most D-1 coaches.  He does give second/third chances to some people with Legal/violence issues, but I can't fault him for believing in such a thing.  The thing that I most make fun of is STL's man love for him, however :).
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on January 05, 2017, 05:00:02 PM
STL is joined by PO in his heterosexual man crush on King Kampe. 😂

Kampe seems like a fun coach...not sure if I'd want him as my coach but he does a great job for them. He does have a challenger for sideline antics this year from UIC's Skeletor coach though.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on January 05, 2017, 05:25:25 PM
Kampe is a good guy back in Rochester, but not well known.  Having spent my first 18 years there, we never heard much on the negative side.  During those years in the 80s and 90s OU was more of a commuter school, so most attention went to MSU and U of M.

I respect the man, he's up front and seems honest.  What's not to like when he talks about emulating VU all these years?  He's sort of like a little brother of Homers...always wanting to be like Homie 😉

Been on this forum since the chaos of Drew-gate...can't say I've heard much Kampe bashing in that time.

P.S.  The one similar example (though opposite) that comes to mind is VU to Butler.  We respect their program, develop our program and they shut the door on our face when we begin to give them real competition.  Sure hope that doesn't happen with the VU or Oakland series as conferences come and go.  Rivalries are the lifeblood of sport. 

I can get behind some Butler bashing...THEY B PUNKS!  Albeit, good punks.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on January 06, 2017, 07:25:30 PM
The difference between Valpo/Oakland and Valpo/Butler is that we continued to play Oakland after we left the Mid-Con/Summit (they were still in The Summit), even when we were losing to them.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on January 07, 2017, 04:54:12 AM
Quote from: valpotx on January 06, 2017, 07:25:30 PMeven when we were losing to them.

If you hadn't noticed WE ARE STILL LOSING TO THEM and even if we had Hammink not throwing the ball away so much, Jubril on the floor, Alec doing enough good stuff to be close to a win, the Grizzlies are too athletic and hit too many threes to beat them no matter which team we put out on the floor.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on January 07, 2017, 07:54:44 PM
My post was before the game started, and speaking to the string of victories they had against us before they joined the HL ;)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on January 11, 2017, 02:13:47 PM
New Union Street Hoops Episode with Paul and Parker.

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_a079bdde-d824-11e6-b720-3f8032a4143f.html

"NWI Times reporter Paul Oren and Parker Gatewood discuss Valparaiso's home games against Oakland and Detroit, as well as discuss whether Valparaiso fans should care about continued coaching success of Scott and Bryce Drew."

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/819240942259601416

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/819240431246573578
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on January 11, 2017, 08:54:53 PM
I hope they decided it doesn't matter if Valpo fans care or don't care about what the Drews are doing at their new places.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on January 24, 2017, 03:05:27 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/823997764161994752

Parker and I breakdown some of the biggest games of Peters' career. Any other games stand out for you?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: a3uge on January 24, 2017, 03:57:29 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on January 24, 2017, 03:05:27 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/823997764161994752

Parker and I breakdown some of the biggest games of Peters' career. Any other games stand out for you?
Haven't listened yet, but the freshman year Evansville tornado game instantly comes to mind. Also, the Cleveland State game at the end of the year where Peters knocked down a 3 while getting fouled to ice the game and give Valpo the regular season championship.

Then last year the clutch baskets at UWM and UWGB during the last week of the year.

Oh, and scoring like 30 points in 20 minutes vs Maine.

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Post by: oklahomamick on January 24, 2017, 04:48:13 PM
Where is the link to 14? 
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Post by: vu72 on January 24, 2017, 05:16:09 PM
Just listened.  Another great show.  Some of the conversation was about whether or not Alec's career needs another NCAA appearance and win (or two) to compare favorably to Bryce's, scoring records not withstanding.  Bryce went three times and lost in the first round once and went to the Sweet Sixteen his senior year.  Alec has been once and went to the NIT title game another. 
I would certainly put the NIT run in a very favorable light compared to going to the NCAA's and losing in our first game.  The school gains immense national exposure and with wins against Florida State, St. Mary's and BYU I might even say it ranks ahead of a single win in the tourney.  Getting to the NCAAs and winning a game this year would certainly put his post season record on par to Bryce's.
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Post by: M on January 24, 2017, 08:35:02 PM
After the first exhibition game I came home and told my wife he would be better then Rowdy....but what's he's done is remarkable!

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Post by: talksalot on January 26, 2017, 03:04:27 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 24, 2017, 04:48:13 PMWhere is the link to 14? 

Hey pgmado... I'm with OKMick here... Do you have the "Sorolla" / "Fernandez" / "Howard Little" episode?
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Post by: StlVUFan on January 26, 2017, 05:33:05 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 24, 2017, 04:48:13 PM
Where is the link to 14? 
http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_859abe86-dda2-11e6-b3f7-cfaf998c53a0.html

I think he tweeted out the soundcloud link to it, but not the nwitimes link.

I took a swing and lucked into the page where all of them are:

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops
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Post by: SanityLost17 on January 30, 2017, 06:04:59 PM
Everyone is complaining about attendance.  This week's podcast spoke about it for 20 minutes and referenced the last 4 years a lot.   The problem is simple.  LACK OF SATURDAY NIGHT GAMES.     

I usually go to 5 or 6 games a year.   I have been to 1 this year.

ESPN3 is killing attendance with these stupid Friday/Sunday games.   We have not had a Saturday night conference home game yet.  What the hell is that about??! 

This leads to a domino effect.  Once you start making it hard for people to make it to a game, they eventually stop even considering it. 

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Post by: bbtds on January 30, 2017, 09:45:43 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 24, 2017, 04:48:13 PM
Where is the link to 14? 

It's at the bottom of that post.

Episode 14: http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_859abe86-dda2-11e6-b3f7-cfaf998c53a0.html

Episode 15: http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_3797c9be-e274-11e6-9ada-af2068be6622.html

Episode 16: http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_49f43ae0-e740-11e6-baa7-532d91d7f501.html
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on January 30, 2017, 11:06:48 PM

Quote from: SanityLost17 on January 30, 2017, 06:04:59 PMEveryone is complaining about attendance.  This week's podcast spoke about it for 20 minutes and referenced the last 4 years a lot.   The problem is simple.  LACK OF SATURDAY NIGHT GAMES. I usually go to 5 or 6 games a year.   I have been to 1 this year. ESPN3 is killing attendance with these stupid Friday/Sunday games.   We have not had a Saturday night conference home game yet.  What the hell is that about??! This leads to a domino effect.  Once you start making it hard for people to make it to a game, they eventually stop even considering it.


It's a lot more than not having Saturday games. This current crop of students ( outside of the 25-35 diehards) just have no interest or enthusiasm for the games. That would be alright for a losing team but is just sad for a top notch team with a lot of upside. The student section for a 1st place conference team should be packed rattling the rafters. The games in the past have been a coming out party for the fans to interact, go crazy and have fun doing outrageous things with colorful signs and costumes. A few years ago the Fan Zone was packed with face painted caped rabid fans making Videos, skits, noise and mayhem, cheering on lesser teams while having a great time interacting with each other. What has happened to lead to this state of apathy? Maybe there just isn't any student leadership to rally people together as there has been in the past. When I was a student being at the event was sometimes more of a fellowship with colleagues and acquaintances than the game itself. This should be a time of letting yourself go and having fun. I hope we can get back to filling the stands with at least a little enthusiasm. As it stands now this is an embarrassment to the University.
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Post by: a3uge on January 30, 2017, 11:26:20 PM


Quote from: VUBBFan on January 30, 2017, 11:06:48 PM

Quote from: SanityLost17 on January 30, 2017, 06:04:59 PMEveryone is complaining about attendance.  This week's podcast spoke about it for 20 minutes and referenced the last 4 years a lot.   The problem is simple.  LACK OF SATURDAY NIGHT GAMES. I usually go to 5 or 6 games a year.   I have been to 1 this year. ESPN3 is killing attendance with these stupid Friday/Sunday games.   We have not had a Saturday night conference home game yet.  What the hell is that about??! This leads to a domino effect.  Once you start making it hard for people to make it to a game, they eventually stop even considering it.


It's a lot more than not having Saturday games. This current crop of students ( outside of the 25-35 diehards) just have no interest or enthusiasm for the games. That would be alright for a losing team but is just sad for a top notch team with a lot of upside. The student section for a 1st place conference team should be packed rattling the rafters. The games in the past have been a coming out party for the fans to interact, go crazy and have fun doing outrageous things with colorful signs and costumes. A few years ago the Fan Zone was packed with face painted caped rabid fans making Videos, skits, noise and mayhem, cheering on lesser teams while having a great time interacting with each other. What has happened to lead to this state of apathy? Maybe there just isn't any student leadership to rally people together as there has been in the past. When I was a student being at the event was sometimes more of a fellowship with colleagues and acquaintances than the game itself. This should be a time of letting yourself go and having fun. I hope we can get back to filling the stands with at least a little enthusiasm. As it stands now this is an embarrassment to the University.

It's disappointing, but can we stop throwing around the word "embarrassing"? We literally have a team in the conference that has a mural in place of students. UWM has an enrollment of over 27,000 and they're lucky to get 12 of them at a game.

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Post by: Kyle321n on January 31, 2017, 09:46:39 AM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on January 30, 2017, 06:04:59 PM
Everyone is complaining about attendance.  This week's podcast spoke about it for 20 minutes and referenced the last 4 years a lot.   The problem is simple.  LACK OF SATURDAY NIGHT GAMES.     

I usually go to 5 or 6 games a year.   I have been to 1 this year.

ESPN3 is killing attendance with these stupid Friday/Sunday games.   We have not had a Saturday night conference home game yet.  What the hell is that about??! 

This leads to a domino effect.  Once you start making it hard for people to make it to a game, they eventually stop even considering it. 



I have to ask, if you're able to go to Saturday night games, how does that make it different from Sunday matinee games? Also how hard is it to get to a game on a Friday night? I kind of like the Friday night games
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Post by: VU2014 on January 31, 2017, 10:00:40 AM
QuoteI have to ask, if you're able to go to Saturday night games, how does that make it different from Sunday matinee games?

From a students perspective a Sunday could be the worst games to attend. Hung-over from the weekend and you have to knock out that homework for next week on Sundays. At least from my perspective those were some of the tougher games to go attend because academic, club, and fraternity obligations all use to fall on that day for me when I was in school.

Saturday night games were the absolute best games imo when I was a student. I'm wondering if the Horizon League is catering too much to ESPN on the game time scheduling for broadcasts on ESPN3. The Horizon is forced to schedule around ESPN3s scheduling for the broadcasting coverage.

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Post by: oklahomamick on January 31, 2017, 10:03:02 AM
Valpo will always struggle getting 5k-6k fans in the stands.  Be happy that the ARC is consistently 60% full which makes for a good environment most of the time. 

It's simple.

1.  Valpo is a small community.
2.  Valpo is a small university with small alumni population
3.  Much of Valpo alumni does not live near the University. 
4.  No Marquette, No Purdue, No Notre Dame, No Butler, No Cincinnati on the ARC schedule

I bet VU has more fans than other HL schools when competing on the road.  Why?  Because of the success of the program but more so, we have alumni in other markets.  This is not the case for other HL state/commuter schools. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpopal on January 31, 2017, 10:44:11 AM
Quote from: a3uge on January 30, 2017, 11:26:20 PM


Quote from: VUBBFan on January 30, 2017, 11:06:48 PM

Quote from: SanityLost17 on January 30, 2017, 06:04:59 PMEveryone is complaining about attendance.  This week's podcast spoke about it for 20 minutes and referenced the last 4 years a lot.   The problem is simple.  LACK OF SATURDAY NIGHT GAMES. I usually go to 5 or 6 games a year.   I have been to 1 this year. ESPN3 is killing attendance with these stupid Friday/Sunday games.   We have not had a Saturday night conference home game yet.  What the hell is that about??! This leads to a domino effect.  Once you start making it hard for people to make it to a game, they eventually stop even considering it.


It's a lot more than not having Saturday games. This current crop of students ( outside of the 25-35 diehards) just have no interest or enthusiasm for the games. That would be alright for a losing team but is just sad for a top notch team with a lot of upside. The student section for a 1st place conference team should be packed rattling the rafters. The games in the past have been a coming out party for the fans to interact, go crazy and have fun doing outrageous things with colorful signs and costumes. A few years ago the Fan Zone was packed with face painted caped rabid fans making Videos, skits, noise and mayhem, cheering on lesser teams while having a great time interacting with each other. What has happened to lead to this state of apathy? Maybe there just isn't any student leadership to rally people together as there has been in the past. When I was a student being at the event was sometimes more of a fellowship with colleagues and acquaintances than the game itself. This should be a time of letting yourself go and having fun. I hope we can get back to filling the stands with at least a little enthusiasm. As it stands now this is an embarrassment to the University.

It's disappointing, but can we stop throwing around the word "embarrassing"? We literally have a team in the conference that has a mural in place of students. UWM has an enrollment of over 27,000 and they're lucky to get 12 of them at a game.


I think most on this board do not set the bar so low as to compare with these other HL universities. Instead of these weak expectations, we prefer to aspire to comparisons with universities like (dare I say it) Butler, as we have done in the past.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on January 31, 2017, 10:56:16 AM

Quote from: a3uge on January 30, 2017, 11:26:20 PMIt's disappointing, but can we stop throwing around the word "embarrassing"? We literally have a team in the conference that has a mural in place of students. UWM has an enrollment of over 27,000 and they're lucky to get 12 of them at a game.


Your right, I shouldn't have used the word embarrassment. Disappointing is more accurate. My perspective is there used to be really good support for a product that was ok - good but now that  product has improved to great, so why has support slipped so much? As a devoted Fan I have trouble getting my mind around it.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on January 31, 2017, 11:17:03 AM
How about "unacceptable by Valpo standards?"
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Post by: vu84v2 on January 31, 2017, 11:30:07 AM
I agree that the turnout and enthusiasm was disappointing for the Northern Kentucky game. What confuses me is that there are recent cases where the turnout and enthusiasm was exceptional (Saint Mary's, Rhode Island). Yes, these are better opponents and, particularly in the case of Saint Mary's, more important games - but the fact that there was incredible support for these recent games would suggest that there is something more at play than just apathy. I don't know what that is, but it would certainly be good for the athletic department to take steps to figure it out.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: hailcrusaders on February 01, 2017, 12:35:30 AM
Quote from: VUBBFan on January 30, 2017, 11:06:48 PM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on January 30, 2017, 06:04:59 PMEveryone is complaining about attendance.  This week's podcast spoke about it for 20 minutes and referenced the last 4 years a lot.   The problem is simple.  LACK OF SATURDAY NIGHT GAMES. I usually go to 5 or 6 games a year.   I have been to 1 this year. ESPN3 is killing attendance with these stupid Friday/Sunday games.   We have not had a Saturday night conference home game yet.  What the hell is that about??! This leads to a domino effect.  Once you start making it hard for people to make it to a game, they eventually stop even considering it.
It's a lot more than not having Saturday games. This current crop of students ( outside of the 25-35 diehards) just have no interest or enthusiasm for the games. That would be alright for a losing team but is just sad for a top notch team with a lot of upside. The student section for a 1st place conference team should be packed rattling the rafters. The games in the past have been a coming out party for the fans to interact, go crazy and have fun doing outrageous things with colorful signs and costumes. A few years ago the Fan Zone was packed with face painted caped rabid fans making Videos, skits, noise and mayhem, cheering on lesser teams while having a great time interacting with each other. What has happened to lead to this state of apathy? Maybe there just isn't any student leadership to rally people together as there has been in the past. When I was a student being at the event was sometimes more of a fellowship with colleagues and acquaintances than the game itself. This should be a time of letting yourself go and having fun. I hope we can get back to filling the stands with at least a little enthusiasm. As it stands now this is an embarrassment to the University.

The Friday night games seem pretty well attended, even for students. Maybe not packed-to-the-rafters like when we'd host Butler, but afternoon games (on any day of the week) aren't going to draw well. Any marketing student will tell you that the optimal time for entertainment events is Friday or Saturday nights.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: hailcrusaders on February 01, 2017, 12:45:16 AM
Quote from: valpopal on January 31, 2017, 10:44:11 AM
Quote from: a3uge on January 30, 2017, 11:26:20 PM
Quote from: VUBBFan on January 30, 2017, 11:06:48 PM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on January 30, 2017, 06:04:59 PMEveryone is complaining about attendance.  This week's podcast spoke about it for 20 minutes and referenced the last 4 years a lot.   The problem is simple.  LACK OF SATURDAY NIGHT GAMES. I usually go to 5 or 6 games a year.   I have been to 1 this year. ESPN3 is killing attendance with these stupid Friday/Sunday games.   We have not had a Saturday night conference home game yet.  What the hell is that about??! This leads to a domino effect.  Once you start making it hard for people to make it to a game, they eventually stop even considering it.
It's a lot more than not having Saturday games. This current crop of students ( outside of the 25-35 diehards) just have no interest or enthusiasm for the games. That would be alright for a losing team but is just sad for a top notch team with a lot of upside. The student section for a 1st place conference team should be packed rattling the rafters. The games in the past have been a coming out party for the fans to interact, go crazy and have fun doing outrageous things with colorful signs and costumes. A few years ago the Fan Zone was packed with face painted caped rabid fans making Videos, skits, noise and mayhem, cheering on lesser teams while having a great time interacting with each other. What has happened to lead to this state of apathy? Maybe there just isn't any student leadership to rally people together as there has been in the past. When I was a student being at the event was sometimes more of a fellowship with colleagues and acquaintances than the game itself. This should be a time of letting yourself go and having fun. I hope we can get back to filling the stands with at least a little enthusiasm. As it stands now this is an embarrassment to the University.
It's disappointing, but can we stop throwing around the word "embarrassing"? We literally have a team in the conference that has a mural in place of students. UWM has an enrollment of over 27,000 and they're lucky to get 12 of them at a game.
I think most on this board do not set the bar so low as to compare with these other HL universities. Instead of these weak expectations, we prefer to aspire to comparisons with universities like (dare I say it) Butler, as we have done in the past.

As noble as this sounds, it doesn't make sense to me to evaluate the team with one measuring stick (we're the best in the HL!) but attendance with another measuring stick (we're not as good as Big East schools in big cities with FF runs!).

Can attendance be better? Absolutely. It hasn't been as good as it has in the past for a variety of reasons, and it's in the best interest of the team and the school to get it back to where it once was. I want that to happen as much as anyone, but that doesn't we can't be proud to have the best student attendance (especially for our size) and home court advantage in the league.

That said, I'm glad we only have attendance to complain about when many other schools are complaining about the on-court product.
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Post by: vu72 on February 01, 2017, 07:46:10 AM
I'm guessing the attendance issue is found across a lot of schools.  Last night I settled in the watch Dayton (tied for first place in the A-10) play at Fordham.  The announcers were kind, calling the Fordham gym "cozy" when in reality it is tiny, with a seating capacity of 3200. Still, with 8800 undergrads and a national tv game (CBS sports) you would expect a packed house. It didn't happen. Attendance?  2412.
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Post by: Valpo89 on February 01, 2017, 08:05:37 AM
Speaking of attendance, sometimes a decent halftime show might attract some additional fans (not students anyway). The Jesse White Tumblers, a frisbee dog, a guy on a unicycle. Those are things that have been done in the past.

This year's halftimes have been lame. Almost as bad as the Family Express commercials. I love Family Express, but the commercials make me NOT want to go there.

All I've seen recently is a two-minute routine by the Crusaderettes, and then the clock just ticks down until the teams come back out to warm up. A few games have featured Boone Grove or Chesterton kids scrimmaging.

I'm sure whoever used to be in charge probably doesn't work there any more. If there has been a replacement, that person needs to figure things out.
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Post by: M on February 01, 2017, 11:39:25 AM
The worst part about those Family Express commercials is you go there for a muffin and they don't even have the type of muffins they are advertising...I just want a chocolate chip muffin!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on February 02, 2017, 08:25:09 AM
Quote from: vu72 on February 01, 2017, 07:46:10 AM
I'm guessing the attendance issue is found across a lot of schools.  Last night I settled in the watch Dayton (tied for first place in the A-10) play at Fordham.  The announcers were kind, calling the Fordham gym "cozy" when in reality it is tiny, with a seating capacity of 3200. Still, with 8800 undergrads and a national tv game (CBS sports) you would expect a packed house. It didn't happen. Attendance?  2412.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooPBXfnIpYI
(start at 20 seconds)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 02, 2017, 08:35:23 AM
New Union Street Hoops Podcast! Its a good one.

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/827000116095680512

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_277e48b2-e8f7-11e6-9ae8-eb5a22d9410c.html

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Post by: VU2014 on February 02, 2017, 09:15:10 AM
http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/vu-s-matt-lottich-and-milwaukee-s-todd-townsend-are/article_4790ab93-86f2-5f83-9858-0b419dcd7bdc.html3

VU's Matt Lottich and Milwaukee's Todd Townsend are forever brothers

Paul Oren Times Correspondent 3 hrs ago

"When Matt Lottich walks into UWM Panther Arena tonight, the Valparaiso coach will go straight to the opposing sideline and look for Milwaukee assistant coach Todd Townsend.

The two share a history that dates back more than 20 years. It has continued to spread over multiple continents and has now settled in the Horizon League."


Give the story a read and listen to the last podcast. Amazing and motivational story.
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Post by: talksalot on February 02, 2017, 10:35:21 AM
I read this Townsend story in today's NWI Times... and was almost late for work.   What a phenomenal story!

The Senior Night is TUESDAY, Feb 21 at 7pm.  Now that's a date and time that will truly inspire the crowd to pile into the ARC... maybe we can get upwards of 40 students.


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Post by: agibson on February 02, 2017, 10:49:35 AM
Really great story, really great pod (I've not read the article yet - probably a great article too).

Gives you a whole new perspective on our Coach.

Makes me think a little of Franklin House's sign (note on their menu?), which totally nailed me. "Better than you thought? Shame on you!". I had completely assumed, "Winnetka? New Trier? $$".
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 02, 2017, 10:58:07 AM
QuoteMakes me think a little of Franklin House's sign (note on their menu?), which totally nailed me. "Better than you thought? Shame on you!". I had completely assumed, "Winnetka? New Trier? $$".

I had no idea about Coach Lottich's humble beginnings. I don't think many in our fan base knows about Coach Lottich's past till now. Really great story.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: covufan on February 02, 2017, 01:12:18 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 02, 2017, 08:35:23 AMhttp://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_277e48b2-e8f7-11e6-9ae8-eb5a22d9410c.html



Quote from: VU2014 on February 02, 2017, 09:15:10 AMhttp://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/vu-s-matt-lottich-and-milwaukee-s-todd-townsend-are/article_4790ab93-86f2-5f83-9858-0b419dcd7bdc.html

Great stuff!  Keep up the great work!

The podcast mentioned a SF article from years ago:

http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/A-friend-in-need-Stanford-guard-Marquette-2743659.php
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 07, 2017, 09:22:17 AM
Really great interview with Bobby. Very insightful. He talks about High major transfers experience at Valpo and why Valpo is successful with transfers. Also the family culture of Valpo Basketball. Just a really great interview.

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/828984120214769664

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_bd8f8100-ecd4-11e6-9873-eb024396175c.html

NWI Times reporter Paul Oren and Parker Gatewood rehash Valparaiso's trip to Wisconsin, including a 17-point defeat to Green Bay. Former Valparaiso player Bobby Capobianco drops to share a few stories of his time with the Crusaders.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on February 08, 2017, 02:50:37 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 07, 2017, 09:22:17 AMNWI Times reporter Paul Oren and Parker Gatewood rehash Valparaiso's trip to Wisconsin,

The Mars Cheese Castle stop was stocking up for the Super Bowl munchies...
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 08, 2017, 03:45:26 PM
QuoteThe Mars Cheese Castle stop was stocking up for the Super Bowl munchies...

Every time I drive up to Milwaukee I have to stop at Mars Cheese Castle and grab a 6-pack of Spotted Cow.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on February 08, 2017, 05:05:36 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 08, 2017, 03:45:26 PM
QuoteThe Mars Cheese Castle stop was stocking up for the Super Bowl munchies...

Every time I drive up to Milwaukee I have to stop at Mars Cheese Castle and grab a 6-pack of Spotted Cow.

That's udderly rediculous. A cow has more than 6 in their pack.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on February 09, 2017, 12:28:50 PM
I'm well aware that message board readers are probably some of the top audience for Union Street Hoops, but I wanted to make sure you saw these links again. The last two episodes have been some of my favorite and Episode 19 with Lubos Barton is coming right around the corner. Some of the older listeners will love that if you followed the 1998-2002 teams.

Episode 17 -- The Matt Lottich and Todd Townsend story -- http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_277e48b2-e8f7-11e6-9ae8-eb5a22d9410c.html

Episode 18 -- Bobby Capobianco gets very candid about his time at Valparaiso -- http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_bd8f8100-ecd4-11e6-9873-eb024396175c.html
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 11, 2017, 02:47:14 PM
Paul did an interview with Lubos Barton.

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_c6dc1cd8-efb2-11e6-a16e-7f91e53841be.html

"Recent Valparaiso Hall of Fame inductee Lubos Barton joins Union Street Hoops to talk about his career with the Crusaders. NWI Times reporters Paul Oren and Andrew Stem put into context Barton's legacy."

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/830191929811992576

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on February 11, 2017, 09:06:14 PM
Lubos is still awesome.  We have been fortunate to have many quality individuals on our team over time, and I think that our international players have been a key part of that aspect.  If you have no idea who Lubos is because you are a new/recent Valpo fan, I still place him in the top 4 players at Valpo (Peters, Bryce, Rowdy, Lubos).  Extremely underrated when you talk about best all-time in a Valpo uniform, and highly versatile.  He definitely has the most successful pro career of any Valpo basketball player, as he dominated the Spanish and Italian leagues for 14-15 years, and was the key Czech national player for his entire basketball career.  You can argue that Bryce had the most successful, but he only played 5-6 years of pro ball, and FC Barcelona and some of the teams that Lubos played on, could beat NBA teams.  Not to mention that there wasn't a better room to visit than Lubos and Kikas' dorm room at Berg.  Very friendly guys :).
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on February 13, 2017, 10:10:35 AM
All of us will agree that Union Street hoops is awesome and does a great job.  The dialog and guests have been great. 

What special guest would you like to hear from? 

Mine would be:
1.  Carter
2.  MLB (as long as he answers the questions truthfully and avoids the PC treatment)
3.  Jubril
4.  Richie Edwards
5.  Rowdy   
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: a3uge on February 13, 2017, 10:46:49 AM
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 13, 2017, 10:10:35 AM
All of us will agree that Union Street hoops in awesome and does a great job.  The dialog and guests of been great. 

What special guest would you like to hear from? 

Mine would be:
1.  Carter
2.  MLB (as long as he answers the questions truthfully and avoids the PC treatment)
3.  Jubril
4.  Richie Edwards
5.  Rowdy
U.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on February 13, 2017, 11:34:28 AM
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 13, 2017, 10:10:35 AM
All of us will agree that Union Street hoops is awesome and does a great job.  The dialog and guests have been great. 

What special guest would you like to hear from? 

Mine would be:
1.  Carter
2.  MLB (as long as he answers the questions truthfully and avoids the PC treatment)
3.  Jubril
4.  Richie Edwards
5.  Rowdy   

6. Kika's Gomes
7. Matt Kenney
8. Tracy Gibson
9. Rob Cavanaugh
10. John Wolfenburg (lawyer in Milwaukee-played in '70s for Purden)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on February 13, 2017, 11:44:59 AM
Quote from: valpotx on February 11, 2017, 09:06:14 PM
Lubos is still awesome.  We have been fortunate to have many quality individuals on our team over time, and I think that our international players have been a key part of that aspect.  If you have no idea who Lubos is because you are a new/recent Valpo fan, I still place him in the top 4 players at Valpo (Peters, Bryce, Rowdy, Lubos).  Extremely underrated when you talk about best all-time in a Valpo uniform, and highly versatile.  He definitely has the most successful pro career of any Valpo basketball player, as he dominated the Spanish and Italian leagues for 14-15 years, and was the key Czech national player for his entire basketball career.  You can argue that Bryce had the most successful, but he only played 5-6 years of pro ball, and FC Barcelona and some of the teams that Lubos played on, could beat NBA teams.  Not to mention that there wasn't a better room to visit than Lubos and Kikas' dorm room at Berg.  Very friendly guys :).

I took the opportunity to say hello to Lubos at the game.  He expressed a little surprise that so many fans remembered him after 15 years.  He seemed to be enjoying the moment. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: justducky on February 13, 2017, 12:10:43 PM
Quote from: a3uge on February 13, 2017, 10:46:49 AM
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 13, 2017, 10:10:35 AM
All of us will agree that Union Street hoops in awesome and does a great job.  The dialog and guests of been great. 

What special guest would you like to hear from? 

Mine would be:
1.  Carter
2.  MLB (as long as he answers the questions truthfully and avoids the PC treatment)
3.  Jubril
4.  Richie Edwards
5.  Rowdy
U.
Wait!  Did you just abbreviate because you were afraid to spell it out? Coward!  :)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 13, 2017, 12:20:49 PM
QuoteAll of us will agree that Union Street hoops is awesome and does a great job.  The dialog and guests have been great. 

What special guest would you like to hear from? 

Mine would be:
1.  Carter
2.  MLB (as long as he answers the questions truthfully and avoids the PC treatment)
3.  Jubril
4.  Richie Edwards
5.  Rowdy   

Totally agree MLB would be great if he was brutally honest in a public forum.

Mine would be:
1. MLB
Questions for MLB:
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-Want to know what the chances of switching Conference are? MVC? Thoughts are the shifting landscape of conference.
-What are the realities of getting a renovated ARC? Are there plans? Any timeline?
-Thoughts on moving on from the Drew era.
-Thoughts on Bryce Drew interviewing for jobs while we were in the heat of the NIT.
-Did you offer the job the Coach Powell before Coach Lottich? (that one might be tmi to give out) Side Note: the Lottich hire looks great.
-What really happened with that whole David Skara situation? (I'd love to get a public confirmation with the rumors) Did David really personally want to leave? Was the decision up to him? Thoughts on Don Bosco Prep?
--Thoughts on the 'Motor City Dumpster' Fire Tournament?
-Great challenges facing the program in the future?

Simply put I could listen to a 4 hour podcast with the back and forth between Paul and MLB if it wasn't PC. By far would be the best guest.

2. Commissioner LeCrone
-Have Paul GRILL him on the Motor City Dumpster' Fire Tournament!  >:(
-Why is the Tourney not in a REAL neutral site!?  >:(
-Why did the tourney format of hosting get switched
-Ask him to elaborate on Butlers time in the HL.
-Any chance of adding teams in the near future? Belmont?
-Is he worried about losing Valpo to the MVC
-The overall consolidation of conference and how it impacts mid-majors, etc.

3. Jubril
Obvious reason and no need to elaborate.

4. Bryce Drew
-Ask him why he left?
-Is Vandy as special as you thought it is?
-Differences between Power 5 coaching/recruiting to Mid-Major Level

5. Richie Edwards/Brandon Wodd/David Skara
Obvious reasons why.
Side Question: Is there an interesting back story to the Richie Edwards transfer? Why transfer to Arizona to play mop up minutes rather then be one of the key guys on a good mid-major team? He would have had more tape to show scouts for a future pro career.

6. Homer Drew

7. Rowdy

8. Vashil

9. Aaron Leavitt

10. Rod Moore (this one would be particularly fun to hear his stories, at least for some of the younger almuni who are more new to our history.

11. Todd Ickow

12. Scott Drew

13. I'm sure there is a long list of former players that I'm not aware of.

14. Any long-time season ticket holder who has seen everything. I'm sure they'd have some stories.


Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on February 13, 2017, 12:22:55 PM
Quote from: wh on February 13, 2017, 11:44:59 AM
Quote from: valpotx on February 11, 2017, 09:06:14 PMLubos is still awesome.  We have been fortunate to have many quality individuals on our team over time, and I think that our international players have been a key part of that aspect.  If you have no idea who Lubos is because you are a new/recent Valpo fan, I still place him in the top 4 players at Valpo (Peters, Bryce, Rowdy, Lubos).  Extremely underrated when you talk about best all-time in a Valpo uniform, and highly versatile.  He definitely has the most successful pro career of any Valpo basketball player, as he dominated the Spanish and Italian leagues for 14-15 years, and was the key Czech national player for his entire basketball career.  You can argue that Bryce had the most successful, but he only played 5-6 years of pro ball, and FC Barcelona and some of the teams that Lubos played on, could beat NBA teams.  Not to mention that there wasn't a better room to visit than Lubos and Kikas' dorm room at Berg.  Very friendly guys :) .
I took the opportunity to say hello to Lubos at the game.  He expressed a little surprise that so many fans remembered him after 15 years.  He seemed to be enjoying the moment.

Put him on the coaching staff.  He could help us recruit!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Valpo89 on February 13, 2017, 01:54:00 PM
2014, wishful thinking on 90 percent of those questions for MLB or LeCrone.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusaderjoe on February 13, 2017, 02:00:03 PM
During the halftime interview of Saturday night's YSU game, Lecrone made a statement that I found curious. I'm pretty much quoting here; he said: "It (the HL tournament location) takes us to Detroit more so we really are relying on their fan base (the Michigan HL schools) to help support that tournament, which is a good thing." 

Just simply ask Lecrone if the tournament is truly geographically "neutral", then why is the League relying on local fan bases to help support it?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on February 13, 2017, 02:11:14 PM
Quote from: crusaderjoe on February 13, 2017, 02:00:03 PM
During the halftime interview of Saturday night's YSU game, Lecrone made a statement that I found curious. I'm pretty much quoting here; he said: "It (the HL tournament location) takes us to Detroit more so we really are relying on their fan base (the Michigan HL schools) to help support that tournament, which is a good thing." 

Just simply ask Lecrone if the tournament is truly geographically "neutral", then why is the League relying on local fan bases to help support it?


Sounds like a LeCrone dumb statement.  If the tournament was held in Valpo they (the conference) would be relying on our fan base to help support it.  If it were held in Green Bay...same, etc etc.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu84v2 on February 13, 2017, 02:25:20 PM
I saw the same interview. LeCrone came off as an executive with no strategy and someone just trying to says things to justify that which is not justifiable. In my opinion, a decision was made to have the conference tournament in Detroit, likely due to getting payment from Olympia that could be shared among all schools and provide better financial support for the Horizon League offices. Instead of fumbling around and saying things to try to justify it, he should just say the decision was made to prioritize financial benefits over the interest of fans and competitiveness.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on February 13, 2017, 06:31:08 PM
Don't get me wrong, I liked that old format to the degree that it really did try to ensure that the best team from the league made it to the tournament. I LOVED going to tournament games at the ARC. But let's be honest, it was perceived by many to be "small time" not something a dominant mid-major conference should be doing.  When Butler was in the league it could be overlooked, but with Butler gone the league (in the eyes of LeCrone and obviously most of the other presidents) needed to enhance the perception of our now "one bid league" by making the tournament comparable to the MVC and A-10.  The MVC has Arch Madness in St Louis (talk about a city that is hitting the skids!!! see links below), the A-10 is in Pittsburgh and we have Motor City Madness.  So I can see why they did it and why he hopes that Oakland or the unlikely Detroit will make it to the final.  If LeCrone had had the backing and gumption to make this change during the last 3 years of Butler's time in the league, we probably wouldn't be complaining so much, the problem for us is that we are now "Butler", without all the leverage that Butler had, so we got p1$$#d on by all the schools not wanting to have a dominant team dictate terms for the tournament location. The real problem is that this league needs to have 2 or 3 teams that are tournament worthy with the rest of the teams staying out of the 200-350 RPI range. I think we may be on the cusp of some of that happening with the influx of new coaches and the current fight for 2nd and 3rd place right now.  Everyone, including myself, seems to want to be in the MVC despite that fact that their tournament is exactly what we are all complaining about.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/education/st-louis-public-schools-tries-to-shed-vacant-buildings/article_4c24e3f6-9b63-51f1-8095-631579f5148d.html (http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/education/st-louis-public-schools-tries-to-shed-vacant-buildings/article_4c24e3f6-9b63-51f1-8095-631579f5148d.html)
http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/05/16/can-inside-look-americas-most-dangerous-city-shock-us-into-action (http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/05/16/can-inside-look-americas-most-dangerous-city-shock-us-into-action)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on February 13, 2017, 06:46:40 PM
Except Arch Madness is truly neutral. 

And they don't have so many bottom feeders year in and year out.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on February 13, 2017, 07:21:05 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 13, 2017, 06:46:40 PM
Except Arch Madness is truly neutral. 

And they don't have so many bottom feeders year in and year out.

Outside of Chicago or Indianapolis, our little ole VU cant get the alumni base to contend.  These neutral site games/tourneys are hardly neutral for a medium size liberal arts college.

We will always be behind the 8-ball.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vusupporter on February 13, 2017, 08:29:52 PM
The top two seeds no longer have the long wait. Day one is 7-10 and 8-9, day two is 1 and 2 vs day one winners, day three is 3-6 and 4-5, then day four the semis.

Back on topic, the last two interviews with Capobianco and Barton have both been stellar.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 16, 2017, 03:50:59 PM
New Episode of Union Street Hoops!

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_a98c31fc-f487-11e6-9342-77a5e2be6cc9.html

"Oakland coach Greg Kampe joins Union Street Hoops to talk with NWI Times reporter Paul Oren about the Valparaiso/Oakland rivalry and Motor City Madness. Paul and Parker Gatewood talk about Alec Peters' tribute to Jubril Adekoya and preview closing stretch of Horizon League action."

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/832332419390902272
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on February 16, 2017, 04:16:23 PM
Not sure where he gets that if Jubril doesn't play tomorrow he's done for the year? That seemed like an odd statement.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: covufan on February 16, 2017, 04:35:39 PM
Golden Grizzly colored glasses!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 16, 2017, 04:44:06 PM
Greg Kampe tries to sell the Valpo fans on the Motor City Dumpster Fire Tournament. Great interview with Kampe and he makes some valid points of trying emulate the MVC Conference Tournament in St. Louis, but I can't buy into the "Neutral Site" crap! Its a total competitive advantage having the tournament basically in two of the teams home towns!

I know I'm :deadhorse: but come on! It's a complete competitive advantage packing the stadium with their respective fanbases. I'm digging my heals in on that point because its a deal breaker for me. I was pissed about it when it happened and I'm still ticked about it. Yes it would be nice to have the Tourney here and I can see the merits of a Neutral Conference Tourney site but this will never be a truly Neutral site. Appreciate the Olympia Sports wanting us but thats a 2 way street for every other fanbase not named Detroit-Mercy and Oakland.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on February 16, 2017, 04:47:35 PM
Oakland is on Spring Break?  Their Dorms are closing Friday afternoon.   I'm guessing they will have a decent turnout anyway.  Again, perfect scheduling by the HL... we were on break when we played them the first time.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on February 16, 2017, 04:53:37 PM
Maybe it's not that Valpo needs out of the HL it's that the HL needs some new people in charge. Would that please the masses?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpo64 on February 16, 2017, 04:57:30 PM
Whether we are in the HL or not, the HL needs new leadership.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on February 16, 2017, 06:14:42 PM
Quote from: M on February 16, 2017, 04:53:37 PM
Maybe it's not that Valpo needs out of the HL it's that the HL needs some new people in charge. Would that please the masses?
Definitely time for some new blood.  If this was a public company the shareholders would have demanded a change as soon as Butler left.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VULB#62 on February 16, 2017, 06:26:42 PM
Quote from: talksalot on February 16, 2017, 04:47:35 PM
Oakland is on Spring Break?  Their Dorms are closing Friday afternoon.   I'm guessing they will have a decent turnout anyway.  Again, perfect scheduling by the HL... we were on break when we played them the first time.

But it is considered a commuter school, no?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on February 16, 2017, 06:54:40 PM
Quote from: talksalot on February 16, 2017, 04:47:35 PMOakland is on Spring Break?  Their Dorms are closing Friday afternoon.   I'm guessing they will have a decent turnout anyway.  Again, perfect scheduling by the HL... we were on break when we played them the first time.

They should have a good turn out.  Great majority of their students are from Michigan.  Most of the alumni probably live in Michigan. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on February 16, 2017, 08:01:38 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 16, 2017, 06:26:42 PM
Quote from: talksalot on February 16, 2017, 04:47:35 PM
Oakland is on Spring Break?  Their Dorms are closing Friday afternoon.   I'm guessing they will have a decent turnout anyway.  Again, perfect scheduling by the HL... we were on break when we played them the first time.

But it is considered a commuter school, no?

Oakland had that reputation until the mid 1990s when they went on a building spree.  I lived in Rochester at the time as a high schooler.  Now they have a pretty nice campus and attract a lot of traditional high school seniors.  But they also spent good money to attract young families, non traditional.  It's a nice campus with a solid aquatics center and even newer student rec center.  It's growing nicely...want to say it was around 10,000 students  in the 1990s where recently I thought I read 20,000+.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on February 17, 2017, 02:38:43 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 16, 2017, 04:44:06 PMI know I'm  but come on! It's a complete competitive advantage packing the stadium with their respective fanbases. I'm digging my heals in on that point because its a deal breaker for me. I was pissed about it when it happened and I'm still ticked about it. Yes it would be nice to have the Tourney here and I can see the merits of a Neutral Conference Tourney site but this will never be a truly Neutral site. Appreciate the Olympia Sports wanting us but thats a 2 way street for every other fanbase not named Detroit-Mercy and Oakland.

So what is the result of your being pissed at the HL for holding their tournament in downtown Detroit (what you call the Motor City Dumpster Fire Tournament)?

Would it be better if the HL tournament was held on the south side of Chicago in a gym in the Englewood neighborhood? Valpo fans could pack the gym with it being within about 40 miles of Valpo. But that wouldn't happen would it?

The result of your being pissed at the HL is that Valpo will most likely not get an invite from the Missouri Valley or a better conference, the Valpo fans that attend the HL tournament in Detroit will enjoy themselves, Jon LeCrone will stay commissioner of the HL, and you will sit at home still pissed at the HL for ruining what you think is Valpo's "God given right" to have the HL tournament close to Valpo because Valpo has had the better teams over the last few years and have earned it.

Get over it! Go to the HL tournament in Detroit and cheer your team on. They need you to stop the sulking and support your team! I'll be in Detroit supporting Valpo wherever they play and enjoying myself. I've traveled there before and it's not the end of the world and not the horrible place that you want to think that Detroit is. Downtown Detroit IS enjoyable! Stop making excuses and find a way to get to Detroit, even if only on the weekend, and show Oakland and Detroit-Mercy fans what true fans will do for their team AND QUIT THE WHINING!!!!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on February 17, 2017, 06:16:17 AM
last year I made it to the Detroit dumpster fire madness from Oklahoma.  I will do it again this year.  Downtown Detroit is cool.  Staying at the casino, hanging out in Greek town and taking the people's mover to the joe.  Lecrone will continue to "lead" the HL.  Valpo will not aggressively seek the mvc and will not get the invite.  You are correct in everything.  Oh and finally I will continue to whine about it.   At least until one of the above changes.....
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on February 17, 2017, 06:29:12 AM
Quote from: bbtds on February 17, 2017, 02:38:43 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 16, 2017, 04:44:06 PMI know I'm  but come on! It's a complete competitive advantage packing the stadium with their respective fanbases. I'm digging my heals in on that point because its a deal breaker for me. I was pissed about it when it happened and I'm still ticked about it. Yes it would be nice to have the Tourney here and I can see the merits of a Neutral Conference Tourney site but this will never be a truly Neutral site. Appreciate the Olympia Sports wanting us but thats a 2 way street for every other fanbase not named Detroit-Mercy and Oakland.

So what is the result of your being pissed at the HL for holding their tournament in downtown Detroit (what you call the Motor City Dumpster Fire Tournament)?

Would it be better if the HL tournament was held on the south side of Chicago in a gym in the Englewood neighborhood? Valpo fans could pack the gym with it being within about 40 miles of Valpo. But that wouldn't happen would it?

The result of your being pissed at the HL is that Valpo will most likely not get an invite from the Missouri Valley or a better conference, the Valpo fans that attend the HL tournament in Detroit will enjoy themselves, Jon LeCrone will stay commissioner of the HL, and you will sit at home still pissed at the HL for ruining what you think is Valpo's "God given right" to have the HL tournament close to Valpo because Valpo has had the better teams over the last few years and have earned it.

Get over it! Go to the HL tournament in Detroit and cheer your team on. They need you to stop the sulking and support your team! I'll be in Detroit supporting Valpo wherever they play and enjoying myself. I've traveled there before and it's not the end of the world and not the horrible place that you want to think that Detroit is. Downtown Detroit IS enjoyable! Stop making excuses and find a way to get to Detroit, even if only on the weekend, and show Oakland and Detroit-Mercy fans what true fans will do for their team AND QUIT THE WHINING!!!!

BBTSDQYR you know nothing if you compare Downtown Detroit to Englewood.  You are officially my nemesis on this forum...."Newwwwwwman".
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on February 17, 2017, 06:32:16 AM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on February 17, 2017, 06:29:12 AM
Quote from: bbtds on February 17, 2017, 02:38:43 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 16, 2017, 04:44:06 PMI know I'm  but come on! It's a complete competitive advantage packing the stadium with their respective fanbases. I'm digging my heals in on that point because its a deal breaker for me. I was pissed about it when it happened and I'm still ticked about it. Yes it would be nice to have the Tourney here and I can see the merits of a Neutral Conference Tourney site but this will never be a truly Neutral site. Appreciate the Olympia Sports wanting us but thats a 2 way street for every other fanbase not named Detroit-Mercy and Oakland.

So what is the result of your being pissed at the HL for holding their tournament in downtown Detroit (what you call the Motor City Dumpster Fire Tournament)?

Would it be better if the HL tournament was held on the south side of Chicago in a gym in the Englewood neighborhood? Valpo fans could pack the gym with it being within about 40 miles of Valpo. But that wouldn't happen would it?

The result of your being pissed at the HL is that Valpo will most likely not get an invite from the Missouri Valley or a better conference, the Valpo fans that attend the HL tournament in Detroit will enjoy themselves, Jon LeCrone will stay commissioner of the HL, and you will sit at home still pissed at the HL for ruining what you think is Valpo's "God given right" to have the HL tournament close to Valpo because Valpo has had the better teams over the last few years and have earned it.

Get over it! Go to the HL tournament in Detroit and cheer your team on. They need you to stop the sulking and support your team! I'll be in Detroit supporting Valpo wherever they play and enjoying myself. I've traveled there before and it's not the end of the world and not the horrible place that you want to think that Detroit is. Downtown Detroit IS enjoyable! Stop making excuses and find a way to get to Detroit, even if only on the weekend, and show Oakland and Detroit-Mercy fans what true fans will do for their team AND QUIT THE WHINING!!!!

BBTSDQYR you know nothing if you compare Downtown Detroit to Englewood.  You are officially my nemesis on this forum...."Newwwwwwman".

...And my silly ___ should have read the rest of your message.  Glad I could be the dumb____ this AM.  I'm still searching for a nemesis....OKmick, you in?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on February 17, 2017, 07:43:06 AM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on February 17, 2017, 06:29:12 AMBBTSDQYR you know nothing if you compare Downtown Detroit to Englewood.  You are officially my nemesis on this forum...."Newwwwwwman".

Never compared downtown Detroit to Englewood. I just asked if we did hold the HL tournament in Englewood would more Valpo fans attend because of the location being closer for Valpo fans. The answer was an obvious "NO!"

EDIT: Now I see that you actually read my full response.

Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on February 17, 2017, 06:32:16 AM...And my silly ___ should have read the rest of your message.  Glad I could be the dumb____ this AM.  I'm still searching for a nemesis....OKmick, you in?

....if you must have a nemesis.................oh never mind.........you'll never read this whole response the first time anyway............ ;)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 17, 2017, 09:48:10 AM
You don't think hosting it in Chicago would have a greater impact on attendance for Valpo fans?

It definitely would. There is a huge alumni/student base settle and from the Chicagoland as compared to Detroit. It's an hour drive as opposed to 4 hrs. That is much less of a commitment to attend games.

The Horizon League Tournament could even be hosted in Rosemont (just outside Chicago, near O'Hare) at the AllState Arena. Rosemont has a pretty nice entertainment/hotel district surrounding it and its right off the highway. That's just one possibility. Or it could be hosted in Indy. Although Olympia Sports wanted the Horizon League and we've made the commitment so its all a moot point now.

In the post I mentioned there are merits to have a "neutral site" conference tournament. I'm not opposed to the neutral site. And give me a break, the MVC Conference is not going to base their decision on giving an invite to Valpo based on fan displeasure of the Tournament. There are so many other more important factors. To fans who are going I hope they enjoy the experience. I can't make it this season because I'll be out of town but I will definitely be going next season regardless if we are competitive or not. I would like to experience the Conf Tourney (and the new Joe Louis Arena should be nice).

I completely acknowledge that post was "whiny" (I'll try and tamp it down). More frustrated with leadership of the HL. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: NativeCheesehead on February 17, 2017, 10:10:01 AM
If you're going to have a neutral site tournament, fine. Have semis and final on a weekend, period, end of story. Logistics, ESPN aside, tough to ask people to give up half a work week to attend a basketball tournament.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpopal on February 17, 2017, 10:54:36 AM
Let's be clear that complaints about the shift of the tournament to Detroit is not whining, and in fact that is an insulting suggestion. Anger about the tournament format that I hear from many season ticket holders is just a symptom of overall displeasure with various directions taken by the Horizon League and changes witnessed since Valpo entered the conference.


When VU joined the HL, all those season ticket holders were delighted to be in a league that was higher in the rankings, had the possibility of multiple bids to the NCAA, included Loyola and Butler (two quality schools that were worthy rivals, especially Butler, whose appearance at the ARC would be a great occasion each year), and the environment at every conference game was positive, especially since the Horizon League also offered a reward and reason for caring about each league game because hosting the tournament was a terrific prize. The details of the tournament now being held in a city with two conference foes who would have a home court advantage only add salt to the wound. Consequently, every time an ad for the tournament is shown on the video board at the ARC, fans near me moan and mutter curses, especially when the promotion brings to a dead halt the enthusiasm and cheering at a crucial point in the game.


Indeed, the lack of such high stakes for games the past couple of years has contributed as a factor to the lessening of fan enthusiasm and likely to lower attendance. In addition, it is no secret the Valparaiso University administration strongly opposed the tournament change, felt betrayed by the league, and behind closed doors the resentment toward the Horizon League remains palpable. This betrayal was particularly surprising and poisonous because the league commissioner was at the time praising the current format and discussing ways to tweak the campus-site tournament as it continued to make it a model for other mid-major conferences.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 17, 2017, 11:26:27 AM
QuoteIf you're going to have a neutral site tournament, fine. Have semis and final on a weekend, period, end of story. Logistics, ESPN aside, tough to ask people to give up half a work week to attend a basketball tournament.

I agree a bit. It's just tough to commit to a tournament like this if there aren't other events going on around it. I love Valpo Basketball but do I want to commit the whole weekend to watching the Cleveland States, Milwaukee, Youngstown States, and Detroits of the League. There is just many bottom feeding teams in the conference right now. I guarantee you Detroit and Milwaukee will be better next season and I feel awful for Gary Waters losing recruits left and right over the years (maybe he'll bring them back), but I don't want to commit to watching those games live.

If the Horizon League was on par with a Big East, A-10 and most years the MVC then I would definitely commit to seeing those league tournaments live if Valpo were in those conferences, because the level of competitive teams are much higher. The Horizon League is on the up from a competitive standpoint. Valpo, Oakland, NKU, are going to UIC very competitive at the Mid Major Levels at least for the next few years. Green Bay is very well coached and Detroit and Milwaukee just hired good coaches last offseason.

If the Conference really wants the Motor City Madness too succeed then the product on the floor has to get better. You have to have multiple teams competing fighting to get into the NCAA. The Horizon League needs to become a multiple bid conference for this whole thing to take off. Not sure when or if that will happen before members get poached by the next tier of conference.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on February 17, 2017, 11:40:57 AM
I would also add the way it was moved to my displeasure and whining.

They announced the move in  the summer that the tournament will be in Detroit.  They moved it over night! 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on February 17, 2017, 11:47:11 AM
Not QUITE as bad...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07qCNiC4KLc



Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on February 17, 2017, 12:07:53 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 17, 2017, 09:48:10 AM
You don't think hosting it in Chicago would have a greater impact on attendance for Valpo fans?

It definitely would. There is a huge alumni/student base settle and from the Chicagoland as compared to Detroit. It's an hour drive as opposed to 4 hrs. That is much less of a commitment to attend games.

The Horizon League Tournament could even be hosted in Rosemont (just outside Chicago, near O'Hare) at the AllState Arena. Rosemont has a pretty nice entertainment/hotel district surrounding it and its right off the highway. That's just one possibility. Or it could be hosted in Indy. Although Olympia Sports wanted the Horizon League and we've made the commitment so its all a moot point now.

In the post I mentioned there are merits to have a "neutral site" conference tournament. I'm not opposed to the neutral site. And give me a break, the MVC Conference is not going to base their decision on giving an invite to Valpo based on fan displeasure of the Tournament. There are so many other more important factors. To fans who are going I hope they enjoy the experience. I can't make it this season because I'll be out of town but I will definitely be going next season regardless if we are competitive or not. I would like to experience the Conf Tourney (and the new Joe Louis Arena should be nice).

I completely acknowledge that post was "whiny" (I'll try and tamp it down). More frustrated with leadership of the HL. 

The question was not if more Valpo fans would attend in Rosemont, IL. The question was would more Valpo fans attend the HL tournament in Englewood (the murder capital of Chicago's Southside). I was comparing downtown Detroit, 4 hours away, to Englewood in Chicago, 45 minutes away.

BTW, I have a customer in Englewood who I have visited after dark on the south side of Chicago.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on February 17, 2017, 12:17:46 PM
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on February 17, 2017, 10:10:01 AMLogistics, ESPN aside, tough to ask people to give up half a work week to attend a basketball tournament.

The dedicated fans around the NCAA find ways to attend NCAA tournament games farther away than 4 hours. You complain about the excuses students make yet you find ways not to attend HL tournament games with some fairly lame excuses. How many of you attended Mid+Con tournament games in Kansas City and Tulsa? Detroit is a lot closer than that. BTW. I'll be in Oakland County, MI tonight for the big match up with the Golden Grizzlies.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on February 17, 2017, 12:41:00 PM
Problem is when it's played. If the semis and finals were a weekend it'd be much better attended.

If only we were all good fans like this guy ^^^ Valpo would probably be in the Big Ten by now.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 17, 2017, 12:51:44 PM
QuoteThe question was not if more Valpo fans would attend in Rosemont, IL. The question was would more Valpo fans attend the HL tournament in Englewood (the murder capital of Chicago's Southside). I was comparing downtown Detroit, 4 hours away, to Englewood in Chicago, 45 minutes away.

BTW, I have a customer in Englewood who I have visited after dark on the south side of Chicago.

Englewood is on the southside. Downtown Chicago/most neighborhoods closer the north of the City are pretty much like being a different planet.

For people who aren't familiar with Chicago Neighborhoods most of the violence that occurs in the news happens in a few neighborhoods in Chicago. I literally can not stress enough how different downtown and other neighborhoods are compare to englewood.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 17, 2017, 12:56:32 PM
QuoteThe dedicated fans around the NCAA find ways to attend NCAA tournament games farther away than 4 hours. You complain about the excuses students make yet you find ways not to attend HL tournament games with some fairly lame excuses. How many of you attended Mid+Con tournament games in Kansas City and Tulsa? Detroit is a lot closer than that. BTW. I'll be in Oakland County, MI tonight for the big match up with the Golden Grizzlies.

We have to live in reality.

Feel free to continue to question my fandom to Valpo Basketball.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vufan75 on February 17, 2017, 01:00:05 PM
Maybe we can hope Chicago or the available All State Arena will bid for hosting the HL tourney now that DePaul is leaving for their own place downtown Chicago? Or would the HL look into DePaul's new arena availability? Decent transportation in/out of town, big city media exposure, lots to do downtown for fans, etc. And much closer for Green Bay, Milwaukee, UIC, Valpo. And
Kampe likes the city, and restaurants so given his apparent influence maybe he likes the idea. 😉
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 17, 2017, 01:09:13 PM

QuoteQuote (selected)
Maybe We can hope Chicago or the available All State Arena will bid for hosting the HL tourney now that DePaul is leaving for their own place downtown Chicago? Or would the HL look into DePaul's new arena availability? Decent transportation in/out of town, big city media exposure, lots to do downtown for fans, etc. And much closer for Green Bay, Milwaukee, UIC, Valpo. And
Kampe likes the city, and restaurants so given his apparent  influence maybe he likes the idea. 😉

I forgot they were building the basketball arena downtown. It's suppose to be right next the McCormick Place and right off the South Shoreline Train, which would be at least easy transportation for our NWI fanbase. That would be interesting. It's suppose to be a 10,000 seat stadium which would be perfect capacity for a Horizon League size championship game. I think the bill for that stadium is going to be split between DePaul and the City, so I'm assuming the City would have some say of which events they'd like to be played there. We signed a 5 yr deal with Olympia Sports, so this is a hypothetical. 

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on February 17, 2017, 03:00:47 PM
I wonder what the attendance records were like when the Mid-Con did have their Conference Tournament at the Rosemost... 1993-94...

We beat Eastern Illinois 74-62 in the first game we played... and lost to "Illinois Chicago" 84-79 in our last game. (to finish 20-8)....
=========================================
Mid-con Tourney Calls Chicago Home, But Will Fans Care?
March 07, 1994|By Mike Conklin.

Grin and bear it. This should be the theme for the Mid-Continent Conference's annual basketball tournament, which began Sunday at the Rosemont Horizon.

That's because the tourney was finally in Chicagoland, after years in podunk locations, and Commissioner Jerry Ippoliti wanted to make it a showcase event. For almost a year, his staff worked diligently at making it first class only to have everything blow up in their faces two months ago with news that the league's most important members-Illinois-Chicago, Northern Illinois, Wisconsin-Green Bay, Cleveland State, Wright State and Wisconsin-Milwaukee-would bolt at season's end. Mid-Con officials desperately want one of their remaining schools to win this thing and get the NCAA berth. Valparaiso is the only possibility following Sunday's quarterfinals.

AND THE FOLLOWING YEAR:

BUFFALO FIGURES TAKE LEADING ROLES AS BULLS JOIN MID-CONTINENT CONFERENCE
By   Mike Harrington  published Fri, Sep 23, 1994

...

The conference had been scheduled to stage the tournament at the Rosemont Horizon in suburban Chicago, but contractual snags ended that plan. Steinbrecher said he prefers a central location and UBUFFALO has expressed "initial interest" in serving as host as it did for last year's East Coast Conference tournament.

"We're spread out geographically, so it can be an expensive proposition," Steinbrecher said. "Normally, the host has paid for transportation and lodging and that's something that will have to be addressed."

The Mid-Con underwent big changes after last spring, as six schools bolted to the Missouri Valley Conference. In their place came independent Missouri-Kansas City and five East Coast Conference schools -- UB, Central Connecticut, Chicago State, Troy State and Northeastern Illinois. They join returnees Eastern Illinois, Western Illinois, Valparaiso and Youngstown State.

The membership changes mean the Mid-Con will not have its automatic NCAA bid in men's basketball this season because it has not had the required consistent membership over a three-year period. Among the defectors was defending champion Wisconsin-Green Bay, which posted an NCAA upset of California.


Steinbrecher is a candidate for the permanent role as conference commissioner. Former conference head Jerry Ippoliti assumed a similar role with the Mid-American Conference over the summer and Steinbrecher, in his sixth year with the Mid-Con, was named to replace him.





Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on February 17, 2017, 03:33:22 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 17, 2017, 12:56:32 PM
QuoteThe dedicated fans around the NCAA find ways to attend NCAA tournament games farther away than 4 hours. You complain about the excuses students make yet you find ways not to attend HL tournament games with some fairly lame excuses. How many of you attended Mid+Con tournament games in Kansas City and Tulsa? Detroit is a lot closer than that. BTW. I'll be in Oakland County, MI tonight for the big match up with the Golden Grizzlies.

We have to live in reality.

Feel free to continue to question my fandom to Valpo Basketball.

I'm with you 2014.  People hate what they don't understand.  Super fans are few and far between.  I'm a hybrid with a healthy dose of reality.  The bigger reason these type of tournaments are bound to fail is because the fan base for ALL of the HL schools is crap.  MVC packed each year?  A10 packed each year?  Let's pretend like they do....it's ONLY because the games have 3-4 real competitors for the title.  The HL hasn't had that in our time in the conference.  Certainly not consistently, because it takes more than a couple years to create a habit/attraction to this format.

It ain't going anywhere for 3 more years, sooooo...how about the new offer to Markus Air Jordan?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on February 18, 2017, 01:39:41 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 17, 2017, 01:09:13 PM

QuoteQuote (selected)
Maybe We can hope Chicago or the available All State Arena will bid for hosting the HL tourney now that DePaul is leaving for their own place downtown Chicago? Or would the HL look into DePaul's new arena availability? Decent transportation in/out of town, big city media exposure, lots to do downtown for fans, etc. And much closer for Green Bay, Milwaukee, UIC, Valpo. And
Kampe likes the city, and restaurants so given his apparent  influence maybe he likes the idea. 😉

I forgot they were building the basketball arena downtown. It's suppose to be right next the McCormick Place and right off the South Shoreline Train, which would be at least easy transportation for our NWI fanbase. That would be interesting. It's suppose to be a 10,000 seat stadium which would be perfect capacity for a Horizon League size championship game. I think the bill for that stadium is going to be split between DePaul and the City, so I'm assuming the City would have some say of which events they'd like to be played there. We signed a 5 yr deal with Olympia Sports, so this is a hypothetical. 

You would have to check dates but I wonder if DePaul might have use for their own new facility during the HL tournament time. The Big East Tournament in Madison Square Garden is March 8-11 this season. Would DePaul be having a conference home game just before their tournament?

EDIT: March 4th the Blue Demons play Xavier in Chicago. Of course maybe arrangements in future seasons could be made for DePaul to finish that last game on the road.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20161005/BLOGS04/161009939/photos-inside-depauls-new-basketball-arena

The new DePaul facility is being built at Cermak and Indiana (northeast corner of that intersection) so I imagine that the McCormick Place/Arie Crown Theater parking garages would be available for events at this facility.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/S+Indiana+Ave+%26+E+Cermak+Rd,+Chicago,+IL+60616/@41.8529705,-87.624466,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x880e2c7ef5763e45:0x993a4d5a5e58d22!8m2!3d41.8529705!4d-87.6222773

EDIT: newer picture of the new DePaul Arena

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuBo4LSWYAEIzf4.jpg)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 22, 2017, 06:57:11 PM
http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_4d5b01d4-f93b-11e6-ad2d-df4ea2c9f167.html

"NWI Times reporter Paul Oren and Parker Gatewood talk about Valparaiso's senior class following the last home game of the 2016-17 season. Former Valparaiso player Clay Yeo joins Union Street Hoops to share stories about coming in with the Class of 2017."

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/834514696048873472

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 27, 2017, 02:14:10 PM
http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_d0c821be-fd19-11e6-9dc5-db319790e942.html

NWI Times reporter Paul Oren and Parker Gatewood discuss Alec Peters' injury and preview Motor City Madness. The Voice of the Crusaders, Todd Ickow, drops by to discuss Horizon League postseason awards.

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/836300597313830914
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bigmosmithfan1 on February 27, 2017, 06:28:49 PM
Great episode this week and enjoyed Todd's commentary as well. Paul seemed to hint that not many people appreciate how badly Valpo was screwed by the NCAA in the Keith Carter situation and that VU was stunned by the decision. Squares with what I've heard from some folks around VU - there was literally no recent precedent for the NCAA denying a fifth year for a player with Keith's profile. It's almost like the NCAA just made it up.

(If you're wondering why some of us are still calling for VU or Jubril's family to take legal action against the NCAA in an effort to have Jubril restored, this coming on the heels of the unconscionable Carter decision is a big reason.)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: StlVUFan on February 28, 2017, 07:11:40 PM
Quote from: bbtds on February 17, 2017, 02:38:43 AMI'll be in Detroit supporting Valpo wherever they play and enjoying myself. I've traveled there before and it's not the end of the world and not the horrible place that you want to think that Detroit is. Downtown Detroit IS enjoyable!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I heartily concur.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: a3uge on March 02, 2017, 08:54:41 PM
I just listened to the podcast. I like Todd's idea of the tiebreakers being decided by RPI. I think the league needs to start propping up and encouraging good records in the non-conference season. I think voters should use out of conference results as well as in conference results when deciding on awards. Ultimately the strength of the league depends on the out-of-conference season. Playing well in conference has little to do with the overall success of the league.

The standards for the Horizon League seem to drop every year. I'm not sure how the coach of the year can have a plus 100 RPI and finish fourth place in a really weak conference.

I think it's hard to put anyone besides lottich as coach of the year. He had to deal with an All-American out for 10% of the year and hurt for another 20%. He lost a starter for the entire regular season and had to fill it with two freshmen. For God's sake he was playing a walk-on significant minutes towards the end of the season. He's still co won the league and the only reason why he didn't win the league outright is because Cody wichmann missed all three free throws at the end of a game. Valpo finished with the best overall record, the best RPI, and probably the best three out of conference wins. I thought it was a slam dunk with all the adversity he had.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on March 02, 2017, 10:37:07 PM
Quote from: a3uge on March 02, 2017, 08:54:41 PM
I just listened to the podcast. I like Todd's idea of the tiebreakers being decided by RPI. I think the league needs to start propping up and encouraging good records in the non-conference season. I think voters should use out of conference results as well as in conference results when deciding on awards. Ultimately the strength of the league depends on the out-of-conference season. Playing well in conference has little to do with the overall success of the league.

The standards for the Horizon League seem to drop every year. I'm not sure how the coach of the year can have a plus 100 RPI and finish fourth place in a really weak conference.

I think it's hard to put anyone besides lottich as coach of the year. He had to deal with an All-American out for 10% of the year and hurt for another 20%. He lost a starter for the entire regular season and had to fill it with two freshmen. For God's sake he was playing a walk-on significant minutes towards the end of the season. He's still co won the league and the only reason why he didn't win the league outright is because Cody wichmann missed all three free throws at the end of a game. Valpo finished with the best overall record, the best RPI, and probably the best three out of conference wins. I thought it was a slam dunk with all the adversity he had.

The voters on this honor don't care about our privileged adversity unfortunately.  We won the league 4/5 years prior and that garners coach no equity.

This is not correct thinking, but it's the same reason everyone wanted the choke artist ATL Falcons to destroy New England.  Think it was our turn as the hated in the HL.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on March 03, 2017, 06:02:08 AM
Quote from: a3uge on March 02, 2017, 08:54:41 PM
I just listened to the podcast. I like Todd's idea of the tiebreakers being decided by RPI.

I disagree. Head-to-head wins is the best first-step tie-breaker. Sorry, but if Valpo had beaten Oakland at home and away this year, many here would be singing a different tune and would argue that Valpo should go to the NIT if they lost in the conference tourney. If you can't beat the team you are tied with once during the season, you don't deserve to be ahead of them in any capacity, even with identical records.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: a3uge on March 03, 2017, 06:40:52 AM


Quote from: Just Sayin on March 03, 2017, 06:02:08 AM
Quote from: a3uge on March 02, 2017, 08:54:41 PM
I just listened to the podcast. I like Todd's idea of the tiebreakers being decided by RPI.

I disagree. Head-to-head wins is the best first-step tie-breaker. Sorry, but if Valpo had beaten Oakland at home and away this year, many here would be singing a different tune and would argue that Valpo should go to the NIT if they lost in the conference tourney. If you can't beat the team you are tied with once during the season, you don't deserve to be ahead of them in any capacity, even with identical records.

You could say, if you can't beat Detroit and Cleveland State at home, you don't deserve to be in first place.

But my point wasn't about fairness or teams deserving something - it was about the overall strength of Horizon League. I still firmly believe in protecting the team that will get the best seed in the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on March 03, 2017, 07:26:08 AM
I don't know that that is Valpo anymore.  Would the committee take into consideration the teams best player not playing when seeding a team?  Could that drop Valpo from a 13 to a 14 (or worse)?  Hopefully that is a discussion we can have in 5 days.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 03, 2017, 10:29:58 AM
QuoteThe standards for the Horizon League seem to drop every year. I'm not sure how the coach of the year can have a plus 100 RPI and finish fourth place in a really weak conference.

Brannen won Coach of the Year because of the overall expectations game. Nobody expected NKU to actually be a competitive team in the Horizon League so soon after moving up from D2. Generally a 4th place, +100RPI team coach shouldn't win.

Same goes for next season. Oakland is going to be huge favorites with the heavy amount of seniors on the roster so if Kampe's team doesn't at least live up to expectations then he'll lose.

My WAY to early guess  for next year Coach of the Year will be UIC's Steve McClain as long as UIC doesn't fall off the tracks and fall on their own faces next season. They have a below .500 record this season but they have a crazy amount of talent on that roster so they should be a competitive team with Dixson being ready for next season. Voters will look at the "improvement" in record and say wow McClain must have done a decent job.

Coach Lottich may have a shot next year also if we win the HL or get close after losing Peters. Preseason expectations from media around the league will be lower, but I think the expectations are that Valpo should still be a Top 2-3-4 team next season.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on March 03, 2017, 06:46:20 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 03, 2017, 10:29:58 AMMy WAY to early guess  for next year Coach of the Year will be UIC's Steve McClain as long as UIC doesn't fall off the tracks and fall on their own faces next season. They have a below .500 record this season but they have a crazy amount of talent on that roster so they should be a competitive team with Dixson being ready for next season. Voters will look at the "improvement" in record and say wow McClain must have done a decent job.
The problem I see coming for UIC is that chemistry could be an issue.  Dixson is not going to come back and put up 25 shots per game like he was doing last year.  You can bring in a lot of new pieces to the puzzle, but if they don't fit together you will never see the whole picture.  The Fort Wayne Mastodon's had that problem this year. Things started out great, but by the time conference came along things were not so hunky-dory in the locker room and suddenly you're 8-8, and the 6 seed in a conference you were suppose to win. 

I think we have been lucky through that last few years to have pretty good team chemistry.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on March 03, 2017, 07:17:23 PM
Quote from: FWalum on March 03, 2017, 06:46:20 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 03, 2017, 10:29:58 AMMy WAY to early guess  for next year Coach of the Year will be UIC's Steve McClain as long as UIC doesn't fall off the tracks and fall on their own faces next season. They have a below .500 record this season but they have a crazy amount of talent on that roster so they should be a competitive team with Dixson being ready for next season. Voters will look at the "improvement" in record and say wow McClain must have done a decent job.
The problem I see coming for UIC is that chemistry could be an issue.  Dixson is not going to come back and put up 25 shots per game like he was doing last year.  You can bring in a lot of new pieces to the puzzle, but if they don't fit together you will never see the whole picture.  The Fort Wayne Mastodon's had that problem this year. Things started out great, but by the time conference came along things were not so hunky-dory in the locker room and suddenly you're 8-8, and the 6 seed in a conference you were suppose to win. 

I think we have been lucky through that last few years to have pretty good team chemistry.


perhaps luck or perhaps good player selection and good coaching.  Witness Lexus giving up a starter role to a freshman.  All went well and the experiment has concluded with the better player back as a starter.

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VULB#62 on March 03, 2017, 10:18:40 PM
Totally agree. We recruit not just good players but good, unselfish, team oriented kids. Our kids buy into the TEAM or they aren't here.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on March 04, 2017, 07:52:12 AM
Quoteperhaps luck or perhaps good player selection and good coaching.  Witness Lexus giving up a starter role to a freshman.  All went well and the experiment has concluded with the better player back as a starter.
You guys are right, I used the wrong word and didn't give our coaches and players enough credit.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: zvillehaze on March 06, 2017, 08:05:52 AM
Not USH, but here's a podcast with some Valpo flavor.  Adam Amin joined the NBC College Basketball Talk podcast late last week.

http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/nbc-sports/nbcsports-college-basketball-talk-podcast (http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/nbc-sports/nbcsports-college-basketball-talk-podcast)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 09, 2017, 03:11:08 PM
http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-motor-city-madness/audio_e83eb45c-0386-11e7-ae78-4f0b6fd5a780.html

"NWI Times reporter Paul Oren checks in from Detroit to begin to make sense of Valparaiso's Horizon League tournament loss to Milwaukee. UIC coach Steve McClain shares thoughts on Motor City Madness upsets and Horizon League Commissioner Jon LeCrone gives his "State of the League" address."

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/839930745099546625
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 23, 2017, 01:18:03 PM
NWI Times reporter Paul Oren and Parker Gatewood discuss Valparaiso's final days of the 2016-17 season as well as the beginning of the offseason. Parker shares news about his future.

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-postseason-wrap/audio_14e4a7ce-0fed-11e7-bef4-5b1fc35cee5d.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/844974364386832384
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on March 23, 2017, 10:40:27 PM
Loved the predictions about starting lineups for next year.  Clearly, Lexus saw the handwriting on the wall regarding point guard play.  One thing overlooked was that not only is Joe Burton a highly recruited kid out of high school, he is (I'm pretty sure) the highest ranked player (ESPN) ever the play for Valpo.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on March 23, 2017, 10:44:27 PM
Quote from: vu72 on March 23, 2017, 10:40:27 PM
Loved the predictions about starting lineups for next year.  Clearly, Lexus saw the handwriting on the wall regarding point guard play.  One thing overlooked was that not only is Joe Burton a highly recruited kid out of high school, he is (I'm pretty sure) the highest ranked player (ESPN) ever the play for Valpo.

It appears to be the highest player rankings on one team.

Burton 4*
Bakari 3*
Hazen 3*
Smits 3*
Bradford 2.5*
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: a3uge on March 23, 2017, 10:48:01 PM
Quote from: vu72 on March 23, 2017, 10:40:27 PM
Loved the predictions about starting lineups for next year.  Clearly, Lexus saw the handwriting on the wall regarding point guard play.  One thing overlooked was that not only is Joe Burton a highly recruited kid out of high school, he is (I'm pretty sure) the highest ranked player (ESPN) ever the play for Valpo.

Jay Harris would like a word.

After he's done chucking contested threes from near half court.

But seriously, Jay Harris was rated as a 93 from ESPN.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on March 24, 2017, 09:14:00 AM
Quote from: a3uge on March 23, 2017, 10:48:01 PM
Quote from: vu72 on March 23, 2017, 10:40:27 PM
Loved the predictions about starting lineups for next year.  Clearly, Lexus saw the handwriting on the wall regarding point guard play.  One thing overlooked was that not only is Joe Burton a highly recruited kid out of high school, he is (I'm pretty sure) the highest ranked player (ESPN) ever the play for Valpo.

Jay Harris would like a word.

After he's done chucking contested threes from near half court.

But seriously, Jay Harris was rated as a 93 from ESPN.

OK, you got me on the ESPN ranking--BUT, although Jay was rated a 93 and Joe an 86, Jay was NOT a top 100 player and was No. 22 at his position while Joe was rated No. 59 in his class and No. 15 at his position.  I'll take Joe!   ;)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: covufan on March 24, 2017, 09:23:22 AM
Kenny Harris and a Mr Basketball from Valpo in 1994 were also nationally ranked recruits


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Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on March 24, 2017, 11:17:08 PM
So I'm wondering whether or not Parker Hazen may be the answer at the 4. Here is a kid who is athletic and has played inside for at least his senior year.  Can rebound and make moves around the basket. He is not a 3 at this point as he can't hit the 3 consistently.  So how about Bakari at he point, Tevonn at the 2, Joe Burton at the 3, J at the 5 and Parker at the 4?   Sounds good to me!  Wonder what a guy with a lot more experience like fwalum would think?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 25, 2017, 01:45:35 PM
QuoteSo I'm wondering whether or not Parker Hazen may be the answer at the 4. Here is a kid who is athletic and has played inside for at least his senior year.  Can rebound and make moves around the basket. He is not a 3 at this point as he can't hit the 3 consistently.  So how about Bakari at he point, Tevonn at the 2, Joe Burton at the 3, J at the 5 and Parker at the 4?   Sounds good to me!  Wonder what a guy with a lot more experience like fwalum would think?

I agree he is more of 4 at this point because of jump shot but has the mobility of a 3. His minutes will probably be determined by his ability to play solid defense as freshman. Needs to work on that mid-range/3pt jump shot so we can space him around the floor play him as a 3 & a 4. He'll only be a freshman next year so I'm not expecting him to be an instant starter or immediate contributor. Being versatile will help him get playing time a freshman.

Starting Line-Up:
1- Bakari
2-Tevonn
2/3- Markus
3- Joe
5- Jay

I think we are going be playing more small ball next year, because we don't have any experienced PF on the roster. Maybe Coach starts Parker/Mileek at the PF to begin the game but they only average 10-15 min per game as freshman. Both seem like they have quite a bit of development and are not polished freshman (not many are).

I also don't see us playing both Jay and Derrik at the same time. One thing that I like is that we are going to have more depth next season. More reliable depth on the roster. I really think Micah will be better next season. Maybe he's not the star PG some hoped he could be (even though there is a still a chance) but he can run the point but can also be a scorer eventually. He was only a freshman last year became better as the season went on. Max is solid. Kiser is a high energy guy and could take another step.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on March 25, 2017, 02:44:39 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on March 23, 2017, 10:44:27 PM
Quote from: vu72 on March 23, 2017, 10:40:27 PMLoved the predictions about starting lineups for next year.  Clearly, Lexus saw the handwriting on the wall regarding point guard play.  One thing overlooked was that not only is Joe Burton a highly recruited kid out of high school, he is (I'm pretty sure) the highest ranked player (ESPN) ever the play for Valpo.
It appears to be the highest player rankings on one team. Burton 4* Bakari 3* Hazen 3* Smits 3* Bradford 2.5*

So to take this a bit further, do these "rankings" translate to playing time for VU.  I like the projected starting lineup:

Bakari PG (3 star)
Walker SG (2 star)
Golder SF/G (2 star)
Burton SF/PF (4 star)
Sorolla C (2 star)

Starting lineups might mean heaviest minutes in this years lineup too.  So that leaves Smits (3 star), Hazen (3 star) and Bradford (2.5 star) to come off of the bench.  Who gets the most significant minutes of these guys?

Smits (~18 minutes)
Hazen (~15 minutes)
Bradford (~15 minutes)

This is of course speculation, but it lends well to a comment earlier that says we are going to be a solid deeper team this year.  But really only in talent and scholarship body count.  The %'s show we have a VERY young roster.

Freshmen experience with VU (5-7 players) - 54% of roster
Sophomore experience with VU (4 players) - 31% of roster
Junior experience with VU (0 players) - 0% of roster
Senior experience with VU (2 players) - 15% of roster

It will be a bumpy year in 2017/18, especially in non-conference.  The positives I see are the following:

1) The experience and speed at the G position is an improvement over 2016/17.  Losing lexus hurt, but we gain B1G speed and handling and I like Max Joseph getting more ball handling minutes.  Last year Max had to play "bigger" because of our limited depth at the 2-4 positions.  I don't want to overlook Max at the PG position in 2017/18.  Though he might be spelling Tevonn at times, though limited because he is our work horse for next year.

2) Center position, I am genuinely excited to see these (2) guys grow together.  We had glimpses last year of a formidable duo that I think will only improve.  Coach Gore will work his magic here.

Areas of concern:

1) PF position, not much to add here because many have already expressed concern here.

2) Defensive attitude / abilities.  I think this can only be developed, because we can't really say the carry over is going to happen this year.  We have good (G) defense out of Tevonn and Max.  But other than these (2) players, I don't know how our defense is going to look.  Sorolla needs growth defensively, but he had good flashes last year.  Smits needs his brain to catch up with his foot speed.







Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: a3uge on March 25, 2017, 02:57:40 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on March 25, 2017, 02:44:39 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on March 23, 2017, 10:44:27 PM
Quote from: vu72 on March 23, 2017, 10:40:27 PMLoved the predictions about starting lineups for next year.  Clearly, Lexus saw the handwriting on the wall regarding point guard play.  One thing overlooked was that not only is Joe Burton a highly recruited kid out of high school, he is (I'm pretty sure) the highest ranked player (ESPN) ever the play for Valpo.
It appears to be the highest player rankings on one team. Burton 4* Bakari 3* Hazen 3* Smits 3* Bradford 2.5*

So to take this a bit further, do these "rankings" translate to playing time for VU.  I like the projected starting lineup:

Bakari PG (3 star)
Walker SG (2 star)
Golder SF/G (2 star)
Burton SF/PF (4 star)
Sorolla C (2 star)

Starting lineups might mean heaviest minutes in this years lineup too.  So that leaves Smits (3 star), Hazen (3 star) and Bradford (2.5 star) to come off of the bench.  Who gets the most significant minutes of these guys?

Smits (~18 minutes)
Hazen (~15 minutes)
Bradford (~15 minutes)

This is of course speculation, but it lends well to a comment earlier that says we are going to be a solid deeper team this year.  But really only in talent and scholarship body count.  The %'s show we have a VERY young roster.

Freshmen experience with VU (5-7 players) - 54% of roster
Sophomore experience with VU (4 players) - 31% of roster
Junior experience with VU (0 players) - 0% of roster
Senior experience with VU (2 players) - 15% of roster

It will be a bumpy year in 2017/18, especially in non-conference.  The positives I see are the following:

1) The experience and speed at the G position is an improvement over 2016/17.  Losing lexus hurt, but we gain B1G speed and handling and I like Max Joseph getting more ball handling minutes.  Last year Max had to play "bigger" because of our limited depth at the 2-4 positions.  I don't want to overlook Max at the PG position in 2017/18.  Though he might be spelling Tevonn at times, though limited because he is our work horse for next year.

2) Center position, I am genuinely excited to see these (2) guys grow together.  We had glimpses last year of a formidable duo that I think will only improve.  Coach Gore will work his magic here.

Areas of concern:

1) PF position, not much to add here because many have already expressed concern here.

2) Defensive attitude / abilities.  I think this can only be developed, because we can't really say the carry over is going to happen this year.  We have good (G) defense out of Tevonn and Max.  But other than these (2) players, I don't know how our defense is going to look.  Sorolla needs growth defensively, but he had good flashes last year.  Smits needs his brain to catch up with his foot speed.
Max Joseph was 9th on the team in defensive rating. I thought the Illinois game showed how much of a liability he was when their guards would shoot right over him. He doesn't guard on the ball well either - had only .3 steals per game, which is terrible for a guard. He doesn't have the quickness like Lexus to recover from playing close on the ball.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on March 25, 2017, 03:19:25 PM
Quote from: a3uge on March 25, 2017, 02:57:40 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on March 25, 2017, 02:44:39 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on March 23, 2017, 10:44:27 PM
Quote from: vu72 on March 23, 2017, 10:40:27 PM

It will be a bumpy year in 2017/18, especially in non-conference.  The positives I see are the following:

1) The experience and speed at the G position is an improvement over 2016/17.  Losing lexus hurt, but we gain B1G speed and handling and I like Max Joseph getting more ball handling minutes.  Last year Max had to play "bigger" because of our limited depth at the 2-4 positions.  I don't want to overlook Max at the PG position in 2017/18.  Though he might be spelling Tevonn at times, though limited because he is our work horse for next year.
Max Joseph was 9th on the team in defensive rating. I thought the Illinois game showed how much of a liability he was when their guards would shoot right over him. He doesn't guard on the ball well either - had only .3 steals per game, which is terrible for a guard. He doesn't have the quickness like Lexus to recover from playing close on the ball.

Solid point, and in thinking from the ranking POV I guess he didn't have an efficient year.  My only concern with taking rankings from last year is that he appeared to play out of position for the majority of his minutes.  His sturdy nature had him and Kiser guarding bigger players.  But I get the speed concern if he guards PG or the SF position.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpo64 on March 25, 2017, 07:19:23 PM
My big concern for next year....... where will our scoring come from?     We are losing about 40 ppg in just 2 guys!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 25, 2017, 08:07:49 PM
QuoteMy big concern for next year....... where will our scoring come from?     We are losing about 40 ppg in just 2 guys!

We are not going to be able to replace Alec. He's one of the all-time greats and is the once in a decade or more type player we hope to find.

Legitimate concern. We have guys that have a lot potential and we think they can be pretty good but are unproven because we haven't seen them play.

I think we are hoping Joe Burton and Bakari could be 13-15point per game guys and as well as hoping Markus Golder could sort of give us a Shane Hammink level performance his first year at Valpo (which was 8.9ppg), so possibly hoping he could give a 7-10ppg his first year. Lots of new faces playing on the court next year. You also have to think Tevonn will be a more featured part of the offense, so his point totals may tick up as well.

We're all hoping Jay/Smits/Micah can take another step in their game. Its definitely going to be a transition to a new Era for Valpo basketball. Lots of potential good pieces but we just don't know yet.   
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on March 26, 2017, 08:26:29 AM
One word Kiser
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpo64 on March 26, 2017, 08:58:30 PM
KISER?   BUT AS YET HE HAS SHOWN NO INDICATION THAT HE IS  A SCORER OR EVEN WANTS TO SHOOT.  HE HAS PASSED OVER MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO SHOOT WHEN HE WAS IN THE GAME.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: SanityLost17 on March 26, 2017, 09:12:58 PM
If Kisser is a primary option next year, we are screwed, plain and simple.  If you argue this fact you are an ignoramus.  The end of the year this year showed he had some ability to score when nobody else could.  That doesn't mean he is a D1 athlete.  Settle down everyone.     
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on March 27, 2017, 09:39:14 AM
Quote from: valpo64 on March 25, 2017, 07:19:23 PM
My big concern for next year....... where will our scoring come from?     We are losing about 40 ppg in just 2 guys!
I think I am more concerned about where the rebounding will come from.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on March 27, 2017, 10:06:02 AM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on March 26, 2017, 09:12:58 PM
If Kisser is a primary option next year, we are screwed, plain and simple.   

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Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 27, 2017, 10:09:17 AM
Quote from: FWalum on March 27, 2017, 09:39:14 AM
Quote from: valpo64 on March 25, 2017, 07:19:23 PM
My big concern for next year....... where will our scoring come from?     We are losing about 40 ppg in just 2 guys!
I think I am more concerned about where the rebounding will come from.


Good point.

Jay and Derrik need to get better at rebounding. Jay was solid last year but completely hit a wall at the end of the season. Derrik really struggled grabbing boards. NEEDS to learn to better position himself for rebounds and use the 7'2" frame. I feel like he drifted to far out of the paint sometimes and ceded position to opposing players.

Side Note: One thing I would like to see Derrik change this season is his attitude on the court after getting called for a foul. I love that he clearly cares but he needs to not complain about every foul, because the refs notice that stuff. It's ok to disagree with the call sometimes but pick your spots. Just needs to be aware of the body language he is projecting. Just a little thing. I'm not even sure if that is something the coaching staff would talk to him about or even address.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 28, 2017, 06:50:58 PM
http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_f69bc398-13f6-11e7-ae3c-6760011d6f22.html

"Jubril Adekoya joins NWI Times reporter Paul Oren and Parker Gatewood on Episode 23 of Union Street Hoops. Adekoya talks about his time at Valparaiso, including the adversity-filled 2016-17 season."

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/846831329799032835
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: covufan on March 28, 2017, 07:44:00 PM
Quote from: talksalot on March 26, 2017, 08:26:29 AM
One word Kiser

Soze
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on March 28, 2017, 08:35:35 PM
Quote from: covufan on March 28, 2017, 07:44:00 PM
Quote from: talksalot on March 26, 2017, 08:26:29 AM
One word Kiser

Soze

HaHaHa, well put!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: agibson on March 30, 2017, 04:33:50 PM
Quote from: vu72 on March 24, 2017, 09:14:00 AM
Quote from: a3uge on March 23, 2017, 10:48:01 PM
Jay Harris would like a word.

After he's done chucking contested threes from near half court.

But seriously, Jay Harris was rated as a 93 from ESPN.

OK, you got me on the ESPN ranking--BUT, although Jay was rated a 93 and Joe an 86, Jay was NOT a top 100 player and was No. 22 at his position while Joe was rated No. 59 in his class and No. 15 at his position.  I'll take Joe!   ;)

And in Jay's case the gaudy ESPN ranking may not to have been supported by offers from "big time" basketball programs (interest from Ball State, New Mexico State, Virginia Tech, etc. ... offers really only from Valpo?). It seems like Joe got attention not just from ESPN, but also from college coaches (offers from Oregon, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, etc.).
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: covufan on March 31, 2017, 11:22:05 AM
For those that have been following these great interviews, they have another number themed guest this week:

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/847836753633439744
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: agibson on March 31, 2017, 11:29:32 AM
Quote from: covufan on March 31, 2017, 11:22:05 AMFor those that have been following these great interviews, they have another number themed guest this week:

Nice! I'd seen on Twitter that Mark had volunteered. I'm a little surprised by Bryce, only because initially he seemed to really cut all public ties with the university, fan base, regional media, etc.

It'll be interesting to see how candid they're willing to be. And, I suppose, how much Paul (and Parker?) probe.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: covufan on March 31, 2017, 11:31:33 AM
Quote from: agibson on March 31, 2017, 11:29:32 AM
Quote from: covufan on March 31, 2017, 11:22:05 AMFor those that have been following these great interviews, they have another number themed guest this week:

Nice! I'd seen on Twitter that Mark had volunteered. I'm a little surprised by Bryce, only because initially he seemed to really cut all public ties with the university, fan base, regional media, etc.

It'll be interesting to see how candid they're willing to be. And, I suppose, how much Paul (and Parker?) probe.
I'm sure some of the questions, or area of questioning, were negotiated ahead of time.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpo64 on March 31, 2017, 11:58:10 AM
Perhaps an announcement of a VU vs. Vandy game? ;)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 31, 2017, 12:18:50 PM
Quote from: agibson on March 31, 2017, 11:29:32 AM
Quote from: covufan on March 31, 2017, 11:22:05 AMFor those that have been following these great interviews, they have another number themed guest this week:

Nice! I'd seen on Twitter that Mark had volunteered. I'm a little surprised by Bryce, only because initially he seemed to really cut all public ties with the university, fan base, regional media, etc.

It'll be interesting to see how candid they're willing to be. And, I suppose, how much Paul (and Parker?) probe.

I really hope they are candid in the interviews and don't give wishy-washy canned answers. Either way I'm pumped for the podcast and just the discussion. Paul and Parker do Great interviews and ask all the right questions.

My Top 5 Questions for Mark Labarbera:

- What are the prospects of joining a new Conference? (ex: MVC) What the things standing in the way of getting an invite? What are the risk & rewards, etc. What are the overall thoughts on Conference Consolidation? How does it impact Valpo?

-What are the chances of an ARC renovation? Anything in the works? PARKING PARKING PARKING! When will the parking issue get fixed? How much would a liberal estimate for cost of a renovation be? Are we really considering selling naming rights? (I don't see a problem)

-What exactly happened with the David Skara situation? Did they really try and strong arm the staff. We all know the truth but I've never heard someone publicly address it.

-Thoughts on Bryce leaving for Vandy? How is the Lottich era going in his opinion? (I personally think the future is bright and liked the hire)

-What are the greatest challenges facing Valpo (other mid-majors also) in the future and how are we planning to meet those challenges?

https://twitter.com/mickdogg3/status/847839795560804352
https://twitter.com/apgibson42/status/847848856431865858

I like Mickey's tweet and I'm also curious like Adam is, if we can get LeCrone to come Paul's podcast.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on March 31, 2017, 12:30:06 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 31, 2017, 12:18:50 PM
Quote from: agibson on March 31, 2017, 11:29:32 AM
Quote from: covufan on March 31, 2017, 11:22:05 AMFor those that have been following these great interviews, they have another number themed guest this week:

Nice! I'd seen on Twitter that Mark had volunteered. I'm a little surprised by Bryce, only because initially he seemed to really cut all public ties with the university, fan base, regional media, etc.

It'll be interesting to see how candid they're willing to be. And, I suppose, how much Paul (and Parker?) probe.

I really hope they are candid in the interviews and don't give wishy-washy canned answers.

My Top 5 Questions for Mark Labarbera:

- What are the prospects of joining a new Conference? (ex: MVC) What the things standing in the way of getting an invite? What are the risk & rewards, etc. What are the overall thoughts on Conference Consolidation? How does it impact Valpo?

-What are the chances of an ARC renovation? Anything in the works? PARKING PARKING PARKING! When will the parking issue get fixed? How much would a liberal estimate for cost of a renovation be? Are we really considering selling naming rights? (I don't see a problem)

-What exactly happened with the David Skara situation? Did they really try and strong arm the staff. We all know the truth but I've never heard someone publicly address it.

-Thoughts on Bryce leaving for Vandy? How is the Lottich era going in his opinion? (I personally think the future is bright and liked the hire)

-What are the greatest challenges facing Valpo (other mid-majors also) in the future and how are we planning to meet those challenges?

I think you'll enjoy at least 80 percent of the interview.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 31, 2017, 12:32:37 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on March 31, 2017, 12:30:06 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 31, 2017, 12:18:50 PM
Quote from: agibson on March 31, 2017, 11:29:32 AM
Quote from: covufan on March 31, 2017, 11:22:05 AMFor those that have been following these great interviews, they have another number themed guest this week:

Nice! I'd seen on Twitter that Mark had volunteered. I'm a little surprised by Bryce, only because initially he seemed to really cut all public ties with the university, fan base, regional media, etc.

It'll be interesting to see how candid they're willing to be. And, I suppose, how much Paul (and Parker?) probe.

I really hope they are candid in the interviews and don't give wishy-washy canned answers.

My Top 5 Questions for Mark Labarbera:

- What are the prospects of joining a new Conference? (ex: MVC) What the things standing in the way of getting an invite? What are the risk & rewards, etc. What are the overall thoughts on Conference Consolidation? How does it impact Valpo?

-What are the chances of an ARC renovation? Anything in the works? PARKING PARKING PARKING! When will the parking issue get fixed? How much would a liberal estimate for cost of a renovation be? Are we really considering selling naming rights? (I don't see a problem)

-What exactly happened with the David Skara situation? Did they really try and strong arm the staff. We all know the truth but I've never heard someone publicly address it.

-Thoughts on Bryce leaving for Vandy? How is the Lottich era going in his opinion? (I personally think the future is bright and liked the hire)

-What are the greatest challenges facing Valpo (other mid-majors also) in the future and how are we planning to meet those challenges?

I think you'll enjoy at least 80 percent of the interview.

80% works for me! Thank you for doing the Podcast Paul!! Really enjoy listening to Union Street Hoops!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on March 31, 2017, 12:54:44 PM
Yes, Paul, thanks for putting all the extra work and effort into Union Street Hoops.  Great skillz!  (Time for you to get paid for it....start charging)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on March 31, 2017, 01:06:07 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on March 31, 2017, 12:54:44 PM
Yes, Paul, thanks for putting all the extra work and effort into Union Street Hoops.  Great skillz!  (Time for you to get paid for it....start charging)

How do fans of the Podcast donate for improved audio equipment?  Is this feasible?  Or are we talking ARC renovation level costs...Audio is hard to hear at times.

Still a big fan of your coverage, please keep up the good work.

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on March 31, 2017, 02:37:39 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on March 31, 2017, 12:54:44 PM
Yes, Paul, thanks for putting all the extra work and effort into Union Street Hoops.  Great skillz!  (Time for you to get paid for it....start charging)

You do realize who he would have to charge in order to be paid for it?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: agibson on March 31, 2017, 03:56:11 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 31, 2017, 12:18:50 PMPARKING PARKING PARKING! When will the parking issue get fixed?

Is that a major concern for the fan base? I've grown to like the walk from the softball field well enough. But, I recognize that it's not for everyone.

Would "pay as you enter" parking be a significant bonus? What do the existing parking passes cost if you pro-rate them? Would people pay if we doubled that for a single game pass?

Do they need more ADA parking?

I don't think "more free parking closer to the ARC" is viable, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on March 31, 2017, 04:04:30 PM
You do realize I don't mind paying a fee for listening to something I enjoy?  Paul puts work into it and he has a lot of talent.  Sounds like he should be rewarded.  No?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on March 31, 2017, 06:27:57 PM
Union Street Hoops has really turned out to be MUST LISTEN programming! Excellent work!  :clap:

Along those lines, what would it take to get a Valpo coaches show going?? Would love to hear that on a weekly basis, something like what Todd is doing only about 20 minutes longer.  IPFW Mastodons do an hour program at our restaurant every Tuesday during the season and it is broadcast on the local ESPN affiliate. Mostly concentrates on the basketball teams, but other coaches are also occasional guests.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 31, 2017, 06:38:24 PM
Quote from: agibson on March 31, 2017, 03:56:11 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 31, 2017, 12:18:50 PMPARKING PARKING PARKING! When will the parking issue get fixed?

Is that a major concern for the fan base? I've grown to like the walk from the softball field well enough. But, I recognize that it's not for everyone.

Would "pay as you enter" parking be a significant bonus? What do the existing parking passes cost if you pro-rate them? Would people pay if we doubled that for a single game pass?

Do they need more ADA parking?

I don't think "more free parking closer to the ARC" is viable, unfortunately.

One scenario could be moving the Tiny Student Fitness Center and putting more parking in that spot.

I wish you could park on the streets like you use to. The City said you can no longer park on the streets by the ARC anymore. How did that come to be again? I remember reading somewhere that the city negotiated that with the University somewhere.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VULB#62 on March 31, 2017, 06:55:24 PM
Quote from: FWalum on March 31, 2017, 06:27:57 PM
Union Street Hoops has really turned out to be MUST LISTEN programming! Excellent work!  :clap:

Along those lines, what would it take to get a Valpo coaches show going?? Would love to hear that on a weekly basis, something like what Todd is doing only about 20 minutes longer.  IPFW Mastodons do an hour program at our restaurant every Tuesday during the season and it is broadcast on the local ESPN affiliate. Mostly concentrates on the basketball teams, but other coaches are also occasional guests.


In my thoughts that I posted in the Gonzaga string, I said the same thing and agree that this is one of the small steps Valpo can take to move forward and upward with regard to an increased profile and brand recognition for MBB.   I particularly like the fact that IPFW gets out of the streaming mode (you have to want to go there and do all the clicking vs. channel surfing) and into the mainstream cable.  Valpo is the only D-I BB team in NE Indiana so it should find ways like this to promote that.  I also think that in a Coach's show format Matt would be comfortable -- the current Pre-game Preview, while informative, is not as relaxed, does not include guests and players and is too short.  It is focused on the VU fan base that checks the athletic site. We need to think outside the box.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VULB#62 on March 31, 2017, 07:08:05 PM
Uh, I think we need to build that recreation and athletics building on the Porter property to do that.  I'm all for that, BTW.

Quote from: VU2014 on March 31, 2017, 06:38:24 PM
Quote from: agibson on March 31, 2017, 03:56:11 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 31, 2017, 12:18:50 PMPARKING PARKING PARKING! When will the parking issue get fixed?

Is that a major concern for the fan base? I've grown to like the walk from the softball field well enough. But, I recognize that it's not for everyone.

Would "pay as you enter" parking be a significant bonus? What do the existing parking passes cost if you pro-rate them? Would people pay if we doubled that for a single game pass?

Do they need more ADA parking?

I don't think "more free parking closer to the ARC" is viable, unfortunately.

One scenario could be moving the Tiny Student Fitness Center and putting more parking in that spot.

I wish you could park on the streets like you use to. The City said you can no longer park on the streets by the ARC anymore. How did that come to be again? I remember reading somewhere that the city negotiated that with the University somewhere.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 31, 2017, 07:20:57 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 31, 2017, 07:08:05 PM
Uh, I think we need to build that recreation and athletics building on the Porter property to do that.  I'm all for that, BTW.

Quote from: VU2014 on March 31, 2017, 06:38:24 PM
Quote from: agibson on March 31, 2017, 03:56:11 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 31, 2017, 12:18:50 PMPARKING PARKING PARKING! When will the parking issue get fixed?

Is that a major concern for the fan base? I've grown to like the walk from the softball field well enough. But, I recognize that it's not for everyone.

Would "pay as you enter" parking be a significant bonus? What do the existing parking passes cost if you pro-rate them? Would people pay if we doubled that for a single game pass?

Do they need more ADA parking?

I don't think "more free parking closer to the ARC" is viable, unfortunately.

One scenario could be moving the Tiny Student Fitness Center and putting more parking in that spot.

I wish you could park on the streets like you use to. The City said you can no longer park on the streets by the ARC anymore. How did that come to be again? I remember reading somewhere that the city negotiated that with the University somewhere.

That would be the best case scenario but from everyone I've talked to says that isn't likely. The Porter County property is going to be used for an Indoor fieldhouse, whenever they get someone (*multiple) to write a check for it.

The consensus seems that we most likely won't get a "New" ARC but instead a renovated ARC. But I'm not sure when that renovation will ever happen. I'm really anticipating the Mark Labarbera interview because maybe we'll get a hint on a timeline (or lack thereof any timeline or plans...).
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on April 01, 2017, 06:15:22 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on March 31, 2017, 04:04:30 PM
You do realize I don't mind paying a fee for listening to something I enjoy?  Paul puts work into it and he has a lot of talent.  Sounds like he should be rewarded.  No?

I think that is admirable that you would help get Paul paid for his show. Anyone else willing to pay $25/year for Union Street Hoops? I'm sure it isn't cheap.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on April 01, 2017, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: bbtds on April 01, 2017, 06:15:22 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on March 31, 2017, 04:04:30 PMYou do realize I don't mind paying a fee for listening to something I enjoy?  Paul puts work into it and he has a lot of talent.  Sounds like he should be rewarded.  No?
I think that is admirable that you would help get Paul paid for his show. Anyone else willing to pay $25/year for Union Street Hoops? I'm sure it isn't cheap.

Yes, I would pay $25 a year for it.  That's less than $1 an episode......You call that admirable?  I once paid for a hotdog and it was a $1. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on April 03, 2017, 11:09:50 AM
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/848930082790014979
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: swiftmutiny on April 03, 2017, 02:51:10 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/848981890828832768
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on April 03, 2017, 02:57:03 PM
Thanks for the kind words. Working through some of the audio issues. Some of the microphones are a bit older and don't pickup sound as well. I've done my best to try and raise audio levels in certain cases, but it's not always an easy fix. Hoping to get some better equipment at some point. In terms of money, this is mostly a labor of love for me. I pay to host the podcast on SoundCloud so it will go up on iTunes and The Times gives me an opportunity to host podcast on its site to get more traffic. The listenership numbers are decent, but not anywhere near the chance to get advertising for it from what I can gather. I love doing it and will hopefully continue to do so.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on April 03, 2017, 03:44:43 PM
Maybe the better question would be, is there anything that we as a forum and forum members can do to promote the podcast and increase then number of listeners?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: hailcrusaders on April 03, 2017, 07:19:17 PM
At the risk of thread-hijacking, Mark Adams is being interviewed on 95.1 The Source this evening as part of their Happening Hoops college basketball programming. You can find it a stream on the WVUR website.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on April 07, 2017, 01:11:45 PM
"Alec Peters joins Union Street Hoops to discuss his Valparaiso career. Hosts Paul Oren and Parker Gatewood discuss Wichita State's move from the Missouri Valley Conference and how it could affect Valparaiso."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_a5ba17a2-1bb9-11e7-884e-bf25a78aefe5.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/850409107479822338
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on April 21, 2017, 01:11:39 PM
"NWI Times reporter Paul Oren is joined by a pair of special guests. Austin Peters talks about his time as a Valparaiso graduate assistant and previews the NBA Draft for his brother, Alec Peters. Valley Hoops Insider Harry Schroeder shares his thoughts on the Missouri Valley Conference and if Valparaiso is a good fit."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_b8918f74-26bb-11e7-a417-bf722d608a2f.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/855483551927738368
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/855484337294381057
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/855485193389518848
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on April 27, 2017, 03:45:49 PM
"Lexus Williams joins Union Street Hoops to talk about his journey with the Valparaiso basketball program. Topics include two devastating knee injuries, an inspiring comeback and what the future holds for the fifth-year senior."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_b60ca342-2b6b-11e7-875c-876cad5476e2.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/857646126362710016
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on May 19, 2017, 10:24:52 AM
"Valparaiso associate head coach Luke Gore joins Union Street Hoops to talk about a variety of topics, including his upcoming Athletes in Action trip, recruiting and scheduling."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_c87cace6-3ca2-11e7-b84b-67f5f10c808e.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/865586927747047424
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on May 20, 2017, 02:49:12 AM
Eric Hoffman is playing semi-pro football of some sort?  Pretty cool that Evan Turner was repping a Valpo shirt
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on May 20, 2017, 05:27:23 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on May 19, 2017, 10:24:52 AM
"Valparaiso associate head coach Luke Gore joins Union Street Hoops to talk about a variety of topics, including his upcoming Athletes in Action trip, recruiting and scheduling."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_c87cace6-3ca2-11e7-b84b-67f5f10c808e.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/865586927747047424

Very interesting!


Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on June 02, 2017, 06:17:34 PM
"Valparaiso basketball coach Matt Lottich and ESPN analysts Mark Adams join Union Street Hoops to discuss the Missouri Valley Conference, the 2017-18 season and the woes of scheduling as a mid-major program."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_c0d3c7b6-47d5-11e7-874c-afc072e48d5f.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/870749780531699712
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on June 02, 2017, 08:19:07 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 02, 2017, 06:17:34 PM
"Valparaiso basketball coach Matt Lottich and ESPN analysts Mark Adams join Union Street Hoops to discuss the Missouri Valley Conference, the 2017-18 season and the woes of scheduling as a mid-major program."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_c0d3c7b6-47d5-11e7-874c-afc072e48d5f.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/870749780531699712

Loaded with great stuff from beginning to end. Outstanding podcast!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on June 10, 2017, 06:41:00 PM
http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_74f0d004-4c59-11e7-a713-c7b599e3e3b8.html
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on June 10, 2017, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on June 10, 2017, 06:41:00 PM
http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_74f0d004-4c59-11e7-a713-c7b599e3e3b8.html

Great interview with Brandon Wood who is a really classy guy.  Probably one of the top pure scorers to ever where the brown and gold.  Also a good update from Alec.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on June 10, 2017, 08:43:46 PM
Quote from: vu72 on June 10, 2017, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on June 10, 2017, 06:41:00 PM
http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_74f0d004-4c59-11e7-a713-c7b599e3e3b8.html

Great interview with Brandon Wood who is a really classy guy.  Probably one of the top pure scorers to ever where the brown and gold.  Also a good update from Alec.

Agreed.  Interesting to hear about the challenges, injuries and politics, Brandon has faced in Europe.  Sounds like the D-league and NBA are next for him.  As always, great interviews by Paul.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on June 11, 2017, 06:08:13 AM
Quote from: vu72 on June 10, 2017, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on June 10, 2017, 06:41:00 PM
http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_74f0d004-4c59-11e7-a713-c7b599e3e3b8.html

Great interview with Brandon Wood who is a really classy guy.  Probably one of the top pure scorers to ever where the brown and gold.  Also a good update from Alec.

Excellent insight on the difficulty of pro-ball.  But can't help but come away with less respect for BW.  His bouncing around for "something better" is not a trait I look for in my own life.  It's certainly not unheard of, in fact millenials (of which I am, begrudgingly) are well known for just this.

Again, appreciative that PAUL brings on such great guests.  Regardless on my feeling of BW, he was an excellent guest.  Thanks PAUL.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on June 11, 2017, 07:44:29 AM
So interesting to be able to take a peek into the lives of former players through these podcasts.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: StlVUFan on June 26, 2017, 11:34:43 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 11, 2017, 06:08:13 AM
Quote from: vu72 on June 10, 2017, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on June 10, 2017, 06:41:00 PM
http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_74f0d004-4c59-11e7-a713-c7b599e3e3b8.html

Great interview with Brandon Wood who is a really classy guy.  Probably one of the top pure scorers to ever where the brown and gold.  Also a good update from Alec.

Excellent insight on the difficulty of pro-ball.  But can't help but come away with less respect for BW.  His bouncing around for "something better" is not a trait I look for in my own life.  It's certainly not unheard of, in fact millenials (of which I am, begrudgingly) are well known for just this.

Again, appreciative that PAUL brings on such great guests.  Regardless on my feeling of BW, he was an excellent guest.  Thanks PAUL.
Something was off for me too, though I had this weird feeling of having stereotypical impressions confirmed (surprise is not an emotion I felt while I listened).

I had trouble putting my finger on it, and while I identify a little bit with what you are expressing, I'm not sure that's what I was noticing.  There was just something off about it.

All I'm saying is that I didn't really enjoy the interview all that much.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Grafton on June 27, 2017, 12:50:41 AM
Quote from: valpotx on May 20, 2017, 02:49:12 AMEric Hoffman is playing semi-pro football of some sort?  Pretty cool that Evan Turner was repping a Valpo shirt

I thought so too.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on June 27, 2017, 09:07:58 AM
Quote from: Grafton on June 27, 2017, 12:50:41 AM
Quote from: valpotx on May 20, 2017, 02:49:12 AMEric Hoffman is playing semi-pro football of some sort?  Pretty cool that Evan Turner was repping a Valpo shirt

I thought so too.

Welcome to the Board Grafton!!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on July 09, 2017, 11:36:21 PM
When do you think we'll get to hear an interview with new assistant coach Dildy? Really excited to hear from him! I also wonder if we'll get recruiting updates as well once we have them, since the live period for the new recruiting year is starting soon. Not trying to sound pushy, just curious. I know it's been a long and hectic offseason. Always appreciate the work you do and absolutely love the podcast!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on July 10, 2017, 10:45:08 PM
Looking forward to this one! Cory has to be one of the most underrated Valpo players of the last decade. I only had the opportunity to watch Cory his senior year but he could really score. I remember a game where he got 33 in a win over Oakland that year. OU couldn't stop him and Brandon.

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/884605144125648896
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on July 11, 2017, 01:33:26 AM
Will be awesome to hear what he's been up to. He was without question one of the best low post presences to put on a Valpo uniform in recent memory. Could even step out and hit jumpshots as well in addition to being a very solid rebounder and passer. Really good player.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on July 11, 2017, 08:47:56 AM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on July 11, 2017, 01:33:26 AM
Will be awesome to hear what he's been up to. He was without question one of the best low post presences to put on a Valpo uniform in recent memory. Could even step out and hit jumpshots as well in addition to being a very solid rebounder and passer. Really good player.

And, if he is actually 6'6" I'd be surprised.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on July 12, 2017, 03:41:07 PM
https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/885234372135333889
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on July 12, 2017, 10:47:49 PM
This one is a top 5 union street hoops.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on July 12, 2017, 11:54:30 PM
I just got done listening and I highly recommend everyone give it a listen. One of my favorite episodes if not the favorite.

Great conversation and it was really interesting to hear Cory's experiences overseas & the Lottich Japan connection. I knew Coach Lottich was a stud over in Japan but I wasn't aware of how big of a star he was over there. Would be cool if we could get a kid from Japan because of that connection one day. I know there has been a few pretty good talents out of Japan lately (YUTA WATANABE (George Washington) & the Rui Hachimura (Gonazaga)). Also was cool to hear Cory's background story of how he ended up at Valpo.

Side Note: Paul mentioned Rowdy is in the States & that he's trying to get him to come on the Podcast. Would be another great guest. On the Mt. Rushmore of Valpo Basketball and also one of my favorite classmates of all-time. Just a great guy.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on July 13, 2017, 08:27:42 AM
Does anyone know what rowdy is doing state side?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on July 13, 2017, 08:40:14 AM
Quote from: oklahomamick on July 13, 2017, 08:27:42 AM
Does anyone know what rowdy is doing state side?

His girlfriend Katie is an American and went to Valparaiso also. If I had to guess they are visiting her family during his offseason.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on July 13, 2017, 08:53:10 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on July 13, 2017, 08:40:14 AM
Quote from: oklahomamick on July 13, 2017, 08:27:42 AM
Does anyone know what rowdy is doing state side?

His girlfriend Katie is an American and went to Valparaiso also. If I had to guess they are visiting her family during his offseason.

I'm a facebook friend.  They are in the states for a couple of weddings.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on August 01, 2017, 05:46:33 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/892481732867485697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9x2BFYpOXs
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on August 01, 2017, 07:45:21 PM
Paul's podcast with Ryan Broekhoff!! It's a really good one! A great listen!

"Former Valparaiso star Ryan Broekhoff joins Union Street Hoops to talk about his college career with the Crusaders, NBA aspirations and Olympic heartache."
http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_648a61f6-770d-11e7-b064-03acbe109718.html
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/892524632833765376
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on August 01, 2017, 08:05:56 PM
Wow. Did anyone know Rowdy had Mono his senior year!? I had no clue. Pretty incredible. He still averaged 15.7 points and shot .417% from 3 that year. Pretty mind blowing. Need to listen to this interview. Great stuff.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VULB#62 on August 01, 2017, 09:30:24 PM
OMG
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: nkvu on August 02, 2017, 11:36:55 PM
A wonderfull interview with a great young man. Australia should be very proud of him and Valpo is very fortunate to be associated with him.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on August 15, 2017, 12:33:49 PM
LaVonte was one of my favorite to watch in his time here. He had an incredible work ethic. Great hearing from LaVonte before he heads over sees to play in the Dutch League.

"Former Valparaiso star LaVonte Dority joins Union Street Hoops to talk about his journey to Valparaiso and what it means to play basketball in the city of Chicago."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_489d3330-81d3-11e7-837b-83bcf6b9339b.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/897502497392152576
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on August 15, 2017, 01:47:13 PM
Oren did a great job getting setting up interviews with former Valpo guys.  Always interesting to hear their thoughts post playing career and learning things that us as fans didn't know....

I wonder if some of our international guys will help recruit for Valpo? 

I wonder which former player will be on our bench in a suit? 

I think both are very important.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: justducky on August 15, 2017, 02:09:59 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on August 15, 2017, 01:47:13 PMI wonder if some of our international guys will help recruit for Valpo? 
I hope so. After the Skara incident we could use some positive help just to get back to even!
Quote from: oklahomamick on August 15, 2017, 01:47:13 PMI wonder which former player will be on our bench in a suit?
I have no clue but I think I can name one who will not. ::)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on August 15, 2017, 03:11:45 PM
Quote from: justducky on August 15, 2017, 02:09:59 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on August 15, 2017, 01:47:13 PMI wonder if some of our international guys will help recruit for Valpo? 
I hope so. After the Skara incident we could use some positive help just to get back to even!

I'm curious how much the Skara incident impacted recruiting of foreign players? Jay was already being recruited or signed before that (I know he had no affiliation with DBP). Linssen signed with Valpo this offseason and the connection was his coach who also coached Coach Lottich when he was a Pro overseas.

Would Maravilla really steer players away from Valpo? (ones that aren't even at Prep school) I know he's an agent and it sounds like he's pretty connected in Europe. I just wouldn't expect any Don Bosco Prep players to land at Valpo anytime soon... even though Valpo Basketball Alumni Jason Hawkins is the Head Coach of their staff. That whole incident isn't even Valpo's fault. Maybe its just "business" to Maravilla and its water under the bridge? He didn't seem too happy about the article that Paul wrote.

Still ticks me off that Mike Hutton of the Post Tribune wrote a "Puff Piece" about DBP even after he knew the whole BS of Maravilla trying to strong arm Valpo and use a student-athlete as leverage. Mike Hutton wrote: "Maravilla is fiercely loyal to his players. He incurred the wrath of Valparaiso University fans last year when he helped David Skara transfer to Clemson after Bryce Drew left for Vanderbilt." Not sure what Hutton has against Valpo Basketball...?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/ct-ptb-mike-hutton-column-st-0305-20170304-column.html

Quote from: justducky on August 15, 2017, 02:09:59 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on August 15, 2017, 01:47:13 PMI wonder which former player will be on our bench in a suit?
I have no clue but I think I can name one who will not. ::)

A few guys I thought would have a chance to Assistants in the future:
-Austin Peters (former grad-assistant & AP's older brother). I had a few people tell they think he'll a future D1 HC one day.
-Erik Buggs: I believe he's got into AAU coaching the last year or so. If he continues to pursue coaching I think he could eventually become an assistant or Director of Basketball Operations candidate with more experience.
-Jason Karys has been a manager and walked on last year and is now a Grad-Assistant. Could eventually possibly be an assistant down the road.
- Lexus Williams & Kieth Carter had really high basketball IQs so maybe them. Both PGs.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on August 17, 2017, 09:04:46 PM
Would love to hear from Raitis Grafs or Joaquim Gomes!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: 4throwfan on August 18, 2017, 08:24:55 AM
I've listened to all of the podcasts, and look forward to each new edition.  Really appreciate Paul and Parker's effort on this.  Thanks guys.

I really appreciated Dority's positive and appreciative tone throughout the interview.  I listened to the interview in the car on the way home from a very challenging day, and the interview was refreshing.  Lavonte, if you, by chance, are reading - thanks!  His type of outlook and attitude rubs off on people, and we should be thankful that Valpo gets the kind of quality ambassadors that they get.  It seems consistent, and I hope it continues.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Valpo89 on August 18, 2017, 08:35:49 AM
I'd like to see Paul Oren get Dave Maravilla on Union Street Hoops.  :)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on August 19, 2017, 07:39:50 AM
If interview is conducted on campus he better hire security
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on August 29, 2017, 08:16:05 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/902699502066429954
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on August 30, 2017, 06:20:54 PM
"Forbes writer Jason Belzer joins Union Street Hoops to discuss the Horizon League's lawsuit against Valparaiso and the Missouri Valley Conference. Valparaiso associate head coach Luke Gore breaks down the 2017-18 non-conference schedule."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_bcec8bec-8dcb-11e7-8f86-5b81f5440cce.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/903012267758944256
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on September 27, 2017, 04:17:09 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/913148790953185280
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on October 16, 2017, 08:18:17 PM
"Parker Gatewood returns to Union Street Hoops to help Paul Oren preview the 2017-18 Valparaiso basketball season. Oren gives his Missouri Valley Conference preseason predictions."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_a33ea8b8-b2cb-11e7-8117-ebddbce43123.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/920075858764759046
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on October 17, 2017, 12:17:52 AM
I heard on the podcast talk of the last Valpo vs Evansville game in 2013 at the Ford Center. It was Alec's first game after his hometown was devastated by a tornado. I was informed by a UE fan that there are two seniors on this year's Evansville team that played against Valpo in that game.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Smj on October 17, 2017, 07:23:36 AM
Third place prediction....   Very cool but I pick Valpo in the middle of the pack.  My favorite part was hearing Evansville picked last place...  (Best Man in my wedding went there so I loved hearing this)

All I want for year one is to end the season better than Evansville (hahaha)

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on October 17, 2017, 09:18:02 AM

Very informative and entertaining, as usual.  Great having Parker back on as I enjoy the "inside scoop" on the team he picks up from being on campus and around the players.

I think they did a good job of pointing out how wide open the MVC will be.  When eight of the teams finished .500 or worse in conference last year and Illinois State lost their entire team, no reason to think Valpo won't be near the top.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on October 26, 2017, 11:29:36 AM
A STACKED Union Street Hoops episode. It's a good one.

"Coaches and players from around the Missouri Valley Conference join Union Street Hoops from the league's annual Media Day event in St. Louis. Guests include Valparaiso basketball coaches Matt Lottich and Tracey Dorow along with players Tevonn Walker and Dani Franklin."
http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_4d07fdfc-ba5d-11e7-8e65-5bccbef8c7ad.html
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/923569720707698689
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/923570997604835328
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: 4throwfan on November 01, 2017, 12:52:25 PM
I have a really long commute, and really enjoy the podcasts.  I appreciate Paul's and Parker's efforts with Union Street Hoops.  I listened to a few of the Happening Hoops podcasts, but cannot find them on the internet since the 10/2 episode.

I understand that there are podcasts on the Missouri Valley in general, but I cannot find those on the internet.

Basically, I'm not very technologically astute.

Wondering if someone can point me to some sites that have periodic podcasts or broadcasts on the Valley, or something like Happening Hoops?

Now that the baseball season is nearly over, I'd like to shift to college basketball, and I prefer not to listen to general news, since it is so negative.

Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on November 01, 2017, 06:56:55 PM
Listening to the latest podcast that Pgmado did on Union Street Hoops he talked about walking about St Louis and visiting different landmarks with one of them being Busch Stadium not far from the Scottrade Center. He said it was a nice stadium for a third place team. A team that finished behind the Milwaukee Brewers. That stadium he observed was built in 2006. In that 11 years since it was built that team that plays there have won 2 World Series. Even the lowly Cubs have won a World Series. The Milwaukee Brewers have won how many World Series?
ZERO, ZILCH, NADA!!!!!!!

And which team did they lose to in the 1982 World Series?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: a3uge on November 02, 2017, 05:57:57 AM
Quote from: bbtds on November 01, 2017, 06:56:55 PM
Listening to the latest podcast that Pgmado did on Union Street Hoops he talked about walking about St Louis and visiting different landmarks with one of them being Busch Stadium not far from the Scottrade Center. He said it was a nice stadium for a third place team. A team that finished behind the Milwaukee Brewers. That stadium he observed was built in 2006. In that 11 years since it was built that team that plays there have won 2 World Series. Even the lowly Cubs have won a World Series. The Milwaukee Brewers have won how many World Series?
ZERO, ZILCH, NADA!!!!!!!

And which team did they lose to in the 1982 World Series?
Man, is there a group of more sensitive, insecure people than Cardinals fans?

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on November 02, 2017, 07:52:39 AM
Quote from: a3uge on November 02, 2017, 05:57:57 AM
Man, is there a group of more sensitive, insecure people than Cardinals fans?

Oakland fans  ;D
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: a3uge on November 02, 2017, 10:36:26 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on November 02, 2017, 07:52:39 AM
Quote from: a3uge on November 02, 2017, 05:57:57 AM
Man, is there a group of more sensitive, insecure people than Cardinals fans?

Oakland fans  ;D
That's probably true - when you're at the point where you're equating beating a woman with a 7ft Spanish guy drinking a couple beers, then you have some serious issues.

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on November 02, 2017, 11:56:11 AM
Quote from: a3uge on November 02, 2017, 05:57:57 AM
Quote from: bbtds on November 01, 2017, 06:56:55 PM
Listening to the latest podcast that Pgmado did on Union Street Hoops he talked about walking about St Louis and visiting different landmarks with one of them being Busch Stadium not far from the Scottrade Center. He said it was a nice stadium for a third place team. A team that finished behind the Milwaukee Brewers. That stadium he observed was built in 2006. In that 11 years since it was built that team that plays there have won 2 World Series. Even the lowly Cubs have won a World Series. The Milwaukee Brewers have won how many World Series?
ZERO, ZILCH, NADA!!!!!!!

And which team did they lose to in the 1982 World Series?
Man, is there a group of more sensitive, insecure people than Cardinals fans?

Brewers fans.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on November 02, 2017, 01:37:13 PM
Quote from: bbtds on November 02, 2017, 11:56:11 AM
Quote from: a3uge on November 02, 2017, 05:57:57 AM
Quote from: bbtds on November 01, 2017, 06:56:55 PM
Listening to the latest podcast that Pgmado did on Union Street Hoops he talked about walking about St Louis and visiting different landmarks with one of them being Busch Stadium not far from the Scottrade Center. He said it was a nice stadium for a third place team. A team that finished behind the Milwaukee Brewers. That stadium he observed was built in 2006. In that 11 years since it was built that team that plays there have won 2 World Series. Even the lowly Cubs have won a World Series. The Milwaukee Brewers have won how many World Series?
ZERO, ZILCH, NADA!!!!!!!

And which team did they lose to in the 1982 World Series?
Man, is there a group of more sensitive, insecure people than Cardinals fans?

Brewers fans.


I'm well aware our (Brewers fans) place in the pecking order, so I'm going to take, and enjoy, the shots when I can. The Cardinals are (or at least were before the hacking scandal) the gold standard for baseball franchises. St. Louis baseball is equivalent to Green Bay football. (Football is that sport played with pigskin and results in touchdowns in case St. Louis fans don't remember). St. Louis expects to make the playoffs every year in baseball and Green Bay expects every year in football. Much like Chicago/Detroit/Minnesota fans bask in the glory of a down Green Bay season the rare times they occur, I'm going to bask in the glory of a down St. Louis season. So again, nice stadium for a third place team!   
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on November 03, 2017, 03:18:22 PM
"Union Street Hoops hosts Paul Oren and Parker Gatewood breakdown Valparaiso's exhibition victory over Robert Morris. Former Valparaiso player Ali Berdiel joins the podcast to talk about his career with the Crusaders and the hurricane relief effort in his native Puerto Rico."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_395cad24-c0d0-11e7-80e7-3fee03b910b2.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/926541865461182465
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on November 03, 2017, 06:41:51 PM
OklahomaMick and I came in as freshmen with Berdiel, so I knew exactly what to expect of his interview.  Wish those of us that experienced him for 4-years could say otherwise, but that man was self-involved and aloof.

He listened to music (headphones) during classes and was clearly dreaming of his future.  Let's just say he applied himself as much on the court as he did in classes!

In all seriousness, he was a great talent.

Note:  Anyone else notice how many times he referenced his college teammates? I'm willing to wager none of those guys count him as a lifetime friend.  But please let me emphasize, he is FAR from a bad person.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on November 04, 2017, 02:06:48 PM
Many of your statements are correct, but I would say that he did end up friends with his teammates.  He definitely thought that he was destined for the NBA from his FR season on, and walked around with headphones all day as you say :).  He and Nieves were inseparable.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on November 10, 2017, 01:26:38 PM
"Kylan Lottich and Todd Ickow join Union Street Hoops on the eve of the 2017-18 college basketball season to discuss the Crusaders."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_1aef7a12-c5ab-11e7-9660-0b9bf12b1358.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/929052429181706241
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on November 10, 2017, 06:42:48 PM
Very interesting discussion with Todd Ickow, who I hold in the highest regard relative to his extensive Valpo basketball knowledge.  So according to Todd, we have (potentially) the equivalent of Keith Carter, Casey Schmidt, Dan Oppland and Raitis Grafs.  That's as far as he got.  I'll take that four with Tevonn Walker, all the way to the Final four!!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on November 12, 2017, 02:54:27 PM
Todd just getting excited before our first MVC season?  Respect him yes, but don't know if I agree with Todd on this one.  Still love Todd though.   
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: covufan on November 12, 2017, 03:23:02 PM
Quote from: vu72 on November 10, 2017, 06:42:48 PM
Very interesting discussion with Todd Ickow, who I hold in the highest regard relative to his extensive Valpo basketball knowledge.  So according to Todd, we have (potentially) the equivalent of Keith Carter, Casey Schmidt, Dan Oppland and Raitis Grafs.  That's as far as he got.  I'll take that four with Tevonn Walker, all the way to the Final four!!

This could be one of the most talented teams we've ever had at Valpo - Burton, Evelyn, Smits and Hazen are all three stars or above.  Next years team with the addition of two more three star players may be even more talented. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: a3uge on November 12, 2017, 05:44:17 PM


Quote from: covufan on November 12, 2017, 03:23:02 PM
Quote from: vu72 on November 10, 2017, 06:42:48 PM
Very interesting discussion with Todd Ickow, who I hold in the highest regard relative to his extensive Valpo basketball knowledge.  So according to Todd, we have (potentially) the equivalent of Keith Carter, Casey Schmidt, Dan Oppland and Raitis Grafs.  That's as far as he got.  I'll take that four with Tevonn Walker, all the way to the Final four!!

This could be one of the most talented teams we've ever had at Valpo - Burton, Evelyn, Smits and Hazen are all three stars or above.  Next years team with the addition of two more three star players may be even more talented.

Not sure I'd use Smits and Hazen as evidence of one of the most talented teams Valpo's ever had.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on November 12, 2017, 06:05:03 PM
Quote from: a3uge on November 12, 2017, 05:44:17 PM


Quote from: covufan on November 12, 2017, 03:23:02 PM
Quote from: vu72 on November 10, 2017, 06:42:48 PM
Very interesting discussion with Todd Ickow, who I hold in the highest regard relative to his extensive Valpo basketball knowledge.  So according to Todd, we have (potentially) the equivalent of Keith Carter, Casey Schmidt, Dan Oppland and Raitis Grafs.  That's as far as he got.  I'll take that four with Tevonn Walker, all the way to the Final four!!

This could be one of the most talented teams we've ever had at Valpo - Burton, Evelyn, Smits and Hazen are all three stars or above.  Next years team with the addition of two more three star players may be even more talented.

Not sure I'd use Smits and Hazen as evidence of one of the most talented teams Valpo's ever had.

I wouldn't say this is Valpo's best team either. I'd still take the 2012-2013 and 2015-2016 team over this team hands down. This team hasn't proven anything yet besides that they are the most athletic team we've probably ever had. This team has a lot of raw young talent. There is still a lot of questions that need to be answered with this team. I'd agree this team has a lot of future potential though.

I'm excited but I'm still in "show me mode".
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on November 12, 2017, 07:09:16 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on November 12, 2017, 06:05:03 PM
Quote from: a3uge on November 12, 2017, 05:44:17 PM


Quote from: covufan on November 12, 2017, 03:23:02 PM
Quote from: vu72 on November 10, 2017, 06:42:48 PM
Very interesting discussion with Todd Ickow, who I hold in the highest regard relative to his extensive Valpo basketball knowledge.  So according to Todd, we have (potentially) the equivalent of Keith Carter, Casey Schmidt, Dan Oppland and Raitis Grafs.  That's as far as he got.  I'll take that four with Tevonn Walker, all the way to the Final four!!

This could be one of the most talented teams we've ever had at Valpo - Burton, Evelyn, Smits and Hazen are all three stars or above.  Next years team with the addition of two more three star players may be even more talented.

Not sure I'd use Smits and Hazen as evidence of one of the most talented teams Valpo's ever had.

I wouldn't say this is Valpo's best team either. I'd still take the 2012-2013 and 2015-2016 team over this team hands down. This team has proven anything yet besides that they are the most athletic team we've probably ever had. This team has a lot of raw young talent. There is still a lot of questions that need to be answered with this team. I'd agree this team has a lot of future potential though.

I'm excited but I'm still in "show me mode".

In fairness, covufan didn't say anything close to "this is Valpo's best team ever."  He simply stated that this could be one of the most talented teams in the program's history?  How can anyone dispute that?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on November 12, 2017, 08:22:07 PM
Quote from: wh on November 12, 2017, 07:09:16 PM
In fairness, covufan didn't say anything close to "this is Valpo's best team ever."  He simply stated that this could be one of the most talented teams in the program's history?  How can anyone dispute that?

My bad I miss read. This team may very well have the most raw potential out of any Valpo Teams. I'm not sure there is any future NBA players on this team like there was the last 4 years but we didn't know Alec had that kind of potential till around his sophomore/junior year. This teams strength is the depth. I still want to see how the team looks against D1 level competition, but this is definitely an exciting team from what we've seen so far.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on November 12, 2017, 08:52:58 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on November 12, 2017, 02:54:27 PM
Todd just getting excited before our first MVC season?  Respect him yes, but don't know if I agree with Todd on this one.  Still love Todd though.   

Remember, I posted that Todd said the players had the "potential" to be as good a the players mentioned.  I think we all see potential but how that all works together, how well they take to the coaches, how they play together, etc. will determine the greatness factor.  I will say that I cannot remember a group with as much potential as we have now, top to bottom.  How it will work out will be seen shortly.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: historyman on November 21, 2017, 04:09:40 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on November 02, 2017, 01:37:13 PM
Quote from: bbtds on November 02, 2017, 11:56:11 AM
Quote from: a3uge on November 02, 2017, 05:57:57 AM
Quote from: bbtds on November 01, 2017, 06:56:55 PM
Listening to the latest podcast that Pgmado did on Union Street Hoops he talked about walking about St Louis and visiting different landmarks with one of them being Busch Stadium not far from the Scottrade Center. He said it was a nice stadium for a third place team. A team that finished behind the Milwaukee Brewers. That stadium he observed was built in 2006. In that 11 years since it was built that team that plays there have won 2 World Series. Even the lowly Cubs have won a World Series. The Milwaukee Brewers have won how many World Series?
ZERO, ZILCH, NADA!!!!!!!

And which team did they lose to in the 1982 World Series?
Man, is there a group of more sensitive, insecure people than Cardinals fans?

Brewers fans.


I'm well aware our (Brewers fans) place in the pecking order, so I'm going to take, and enjoy, the shots when I can. The Cardinals are (or at least were before the hacking scandal) the gold standard for baseball franchises. St. Louis baseball is equivalent to Green Bay football. (Football is that sport played with pigskin and results in touchdowns in case St. Louis fans don't remember). St. Louis expects to make the playoffs every year in baseball and Green Bay expects every year in football. Much like Chicago/Detroit/Minnesota fans bask in the glory of a down Green Bay season the rare times they occur, I'm going to bask in the glory of a down St. Louis season. So again, nice stadium for a third place team!   

That field in blue and yellow mixed Bay is also for a third-placed team.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on November 27, 2017, 10:28:19 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/935364249043513344
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on November 28, 2017, 05:24:58 PM
"NWI Times reporter Paul Oren and Parker Gatewood breakdown Valparaiso's hot start to this season while Valley Associate Commissioner Greg Walter talks about the MVC/MWC Challenge. Former Valparaiso star Dan Oppland wraps up Episode No. 42 by sharing thoughts his time with the Crusaders."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_e24ecebe-d48d-11e7-80cd-5ff967fe6988.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/935649004687429633
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on November 28, 2017, 11:58:08 PM
Another fantastic episode.  Dan Oppland was definitely one of my favorites, due to many of the points that Paul brought up.  I believe that Dan was something like a 49% FT shooter during his FR year.  His SO year was my last at Valpo, and every time we were running on the track at the ARC, Dan was shooting hundreds of FTs.  We had various two-a-days, which encompassed a very early morning run, and a night session.  Dan was there most of those times, shooting FTs.  I believe that he ended up a 75-80% FT shooter by his SR year?  That dude put in the work, and he played with an incredible motor. 

Paul brought up Kenny Harris, and unbeknownst to many of you, that dude put in a lot of work with Bob Brooks, as well, during his FR year.  He came in to Valpo at something like 300-350 pounds, but he was often included in our running sessions, as 'Coach Brooks' would run many of our early morning workout sessions as well, and wanted Kenny to be pushed by many people around him.  He met the trash can a few times from those workouts lol, but he never quit.  One thing that I love about Valpo and our athletic alumni, is that we have a lot of people that would never quit, and a lot of intelligent/high character athletes.  Seriously, how many mid or low-major schools can claim as many professional basketball players among their alumni, as we can?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on November 29, 2017, 10:45:28 AM
A great episode of USH.

A great conversation with Valley Associate Commissioner Greg Walter talks about the MVC/MWC Challenge. Paul asked about the potential for extending the series, currently in the 3rd year of a 4 year agreement. I've seen fans of Horizon League teams wanting to get a MVC/HL Challenge going on twitter.
My reaction to that suggestion: (https://media1.tenor.com/images/1d4d6ac70d932dd9514d64b7ca722426/tenor.gif)


Paul brought up how Bill Potter (former HL executive) use to say, "We have 10 children and we love them all equally."

I've met Bill once and he seemed like a really nice guy but we all know that is BS. When Butler said jump. LeCrone would ask "how high?" Butler was the HL love child and the rest of us were ugly step-children in their eyes when they were still in the league. Oh well. Water under the bridge but there is no love lost for the Horizon League.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on November 29, 2017, 08:21:34 PM
I found that 2001-02 "Away from the ARC" results...  we were 7-2 when we left on the trip...

77   94   New Mex St @Yahoo Invite #1     7-3
71   55   Columbia @Yahoo Invite #2     8-3
87   80   Buffalo @ Yahoo Invite #3     9-3
76   57   West Virginia @ Ariz Fiesta Bowl    10-3
70   74   Arizona @ Ariz Fiesta Bowl     10-4
73   81   Kansas - T    10-5
78   68   Western Ill - T    11-5
62   78   Southern Utah - T    11-6
78   66   Chicago State - T    12-6

and 12-6 when we came home....  what they missed was what happened when the team got back...

we won 8 more conference games in a row!
87   67   Oral Roberts - H    13-6
78   60   UMKC - H    14-6
74   73   IUPUI - T    15-6
86   77   Oakland - T    16-6
84   60   Western Ill - H    17-6
100   63   Chicago State - H    18-6
71   64   Southern Utah - H    19-6
76   63   UMKC - T    20-6

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on November 29, 2017, 09:48:01 PM
The great 2 games of Tony Falu's career, Arizona and Kansas.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: historyman on December 06, 2017, 05:13:21 AM
Quote from: valpotx on November 28, 2017, 11:58:08 PM
Another fantastic episode.  Dan Oppland was definitely one of my favorites, due to many of the points that Paul brought up.  I believe that Dan was something like a 49% FT shooter during his FR year.  His SO year was my last at Valpo, and every time we were running on the track at the ARC, Dan was shooting hundreds of FTs.  We had various two-a-days, which encompassed a very early morning run, and a night session.  Dan was there most of those times, shooting FTs.  I believe that he ended up a 75-80% FT shooter by his SR year?  That dude put in the work, and he played with an incredible motor. 

Deutschland Dan!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on December 06, 2017, 06:52:34 AM
and I see USH made the Times today... page 2 of the sports section "Around the Region"... putting the pressure on pgmado to get the edition out by 4pm as promised... oh... deadlines.  I'm looking forward to hearing from former VU ballboy Robbie Hummel...I understand he went on to a pretty decent basketball career at some college somewhere...
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on December 06, 2017, 04:42:14 PM
"Former Valpo High and Purdue star Robbie Hummel joins Union Street Hoops to preview the upcoming non-conference tilt between the Crusaders and Boilermakers. Mid-Major Madness reporter Andy Evans shares his thoughts on Valparaiso's place in national polls."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_317c1e50-dad4-11e7-b306-873aa088c552.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/938537324861894656
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: justducky on December 08, 2017, 12:25:51 PM
The obvious question for Jim and CJ Peters wasn't even asked. Can we get an 18-19 rematch at Purdue with their seniors gone and our puzzle pieces all in place? If not why not?  ???
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on December 08, 2017, 12:40:36 PM
Quote from: justducky on December 08, 2017, 12:25:51 PM
The obvious question for Jim and CJ Peters wasn't even asked. Can we get an 18-19 rematch at Purdue with their seniors gone and our puzzle pieces all in place? If not why not?  ???

Highly unlikely. Hopefully we can get another 2-for-1 with them going if Sasha is still there by the end of his senior year, like we did we did for Robbie Hummel.

Times have changed and scheduling has changed A LOT since even 10-11.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on December 08, 2017, 06:45:38 PM
Another good show, HOWEVER, Paul, when panning our lack of success versus Bigs on the road, included the fact that the Oregon State team we beat in 15-16 was TERRIBLE.  I beg to differ.  That team was 14-3 at home that season, finished 19-13 including wins over Oregon, Cal USC and others and went to the NCAAs.  Oh yay, they had a guy named Gary Peyton on their team, no slouch!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: justducky on December 08, 2017, 07:20:00 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on December 08, 2017, 12:40:36 PMAnother good show, HOWEVER, Paul, when panning our lack of success versus Bigs on the road, included the fact that the Oregon State team we beat in 15-16 was TERRIBLE.  I beg to differ.  That team was 14-3 at home that season, finished 19-13 including wins over Oregon, Cal USC and others and went to the NCAAs.
Great point ! Oregon St was chosen for an at-large slot despite losing at home to VU. Then you should have hit them with the obvious question that you failed to ask.

Quote from: justducky on December 08, 2017, 12:25:51 PMThe obvious question for Jim and CJ Peters wasn't even asked. Can we get an 18-19 rematch at Purdue with their seniors gone and our puzzle pieces all in place? If not why not? 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on December 09, 2017, 11:13:59 AM
Yeah, I was a bit befuddled that Paul mentioned that Oregon State was terrible that year.  Didn't give us any credit in mentioning it in that manner (playing up to the Purdue fans in-studio, perhaps?), yet they were one of the first teams out of the NCAA tourney for an at-large.  He also mentioned that Washington didn't have anything to play for in that game we won in the CBI, yet if you watched that game, you would not have said such a thing.  Brockman was OWNED by Bouchie, and it wasn't for a lack of caring that we beat them.  Yes, it wasn't their preferred tournament, but they did not at all look like they were just going through the motions.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on December 09, 2017, 12:21:33 PM
Quote from: valpotx on December 09, 2017, 11:13:59 AM
Yeah, I was a bit befuddled that Paul mentioned that Oregon State was terrible that year.  Didn't give us any credit in mentioning it in that manner (playing up to the Purdue fans in-studio, perhaps?), yet they were one of the first teams out of the NCAA tourney for an at-large.  He also mentioned that Washington didn't have anything to play for in that game we won in the CBI, yet if you watched that game, you would not have said such a thing.  Brockman was OWNED by Bouchie, and it wasn't for a lack of caring that we beat them.  Yes, it wasn't their preferred tournament, but they did not at all look like they were just going through the motions.

Actually Oregon State made the tourney and lost to VCU in the first round.  Or were you referring to Purdue?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VULB#62 on December 09, 2017, 01:53:00 PM
Actually Paul did a mia culpa on Twitter.

[tweet]939173404929904640[/tweet]
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on December 13, 2017, 10:23:29 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/941160985896906754
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on December 13, 2017, 11:13:27 PM
I don't know who VU2014 is, but I sure do appreciate all the love on here!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on December 13, 2017, 11:32:22 PM
Your podcast is incredible and you should be very proud of it. It's an absolute must-listen for me. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on December 14, 2017, 12:57:26 AM
I also enjoy them quite a bit, though I do have to admit that your constant Green Bay love on Facebook makes me want to throw up ;).  Hopefully you can get something with Raitis Grafs or Kikas in the future!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on December 14, 2017, 03:11:34 PM
"Former Valparaiso basketball players Dwayne Toatley and Milo Stovall join Union Street Hoops to talk about dealing with mono during the 2000-01 season. Former assistant coach and longtime Region high school coach Joe Otis talks about Valparaiso's unique connection to the 1977 plane crash involving the Evansville basketball program. Also, Paul and Parker breakdown Purdue and Ball State and look ahead to Northwestern."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_339b9c66-e10e-11e7-9d34-cff9528ae2d5.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/941409522089947136
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on December 21, 2017, 09:59:28 AM
"Union Street Hoops hosts Paul Oren and Parker Gatewood give out non-conference grades in the wake of Valparaiso's 73-60 loss to UC-Riverside. What is next for Joe Burton at Valparaiso?"

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-non-conference-grades/audio_eda70a16-e661-11e7-abce-efc5d42af52c.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/943872368723841024
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on December 21, 2017, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on December 14, 2017, 03:11:34 PMFormer assistant coach and longtime Region high school coach Joe Otis talks about Valparaiso's unique connection to the 1977 plane crash involving the Evansville basketball program


looking back at the "Post-12/13/77" games with Evansville...

1978-79
Jan. 29 at Evansville L 72-64
Feb. 10 Evansville L 72-69

1979-80
Feb. 9 Evansville L 68-62
Feb. 16 at Evansville L 91-63

1980-81
Jan. 14 at Evansville L 78-74
Jan. 31 Evansville L 66-55

1981-82
Dec. 14 Evansville L 78-56
Feb. 1 at Evansville L 80-66

1982-83
Jan. 10 at Evansville L 81-69
Jan. 27 Evansville W 63-60


1983-84
DNP

1984-85
DNP


Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on December 28, 2017, 10:42:14 AM
"Missouri Valley Conference action has arrived! Valley Hoops Insider Harry Schroeder shares his thoughts on the conference season, while Luke Benz of the Yale Sports Analytics Group looks to math to illustrate how Valparaiso could fare in the Valley this season and beyond."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-missouri-valley-conference-preview/audio_5f0b1e84-ebeb-11e7-b5c1-337d489fa490.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/946420311200862209
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on January 05, 2018, 05:27:38 PM
"Paul Oren and Parker Gatewood discuss Valparaiso's 0-3 start in the Missouri Valley Conference, the virtues of trash talking and whether or not Joe Burton has played his final game in a Valparaiso uniform."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-valpo-in-the-valley/audio_330854a0-f25d-11e7-8289-e74843b07c14.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/949403102997893120
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on January 05, 2018, 06:11:43 PM
Peters freshmen year we still had (4) seniors: Capobianco, Jordan Coleman, Lavonte Dority and Mousa Gueye.

Wow, that stunned me into realizing just how young we are this year.  I had convinced myself otherwise.

We can get as annoyed by the word "youth" or "young"....but maybe we are annoyed by the truth.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on January 12, 2018, 04:00:20 PM
"Paul Oren and Parker Gatewood react to Valparaiso winning its first two Missouri Valley Conference games of the season. Plus, Paul tells a story of the time his family went to Iowa and ended up going home with the bartender."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-happy-days-in-the-arc/audio_3d8a8434-f7da-11e7-b849-83b81fd03eb3.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/951931779576926208
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on January 15, 2018, 11:48:59 AM
ok, so I just listened to USH latest edition... thanks for the shoutout from the guys at the end...

Been thinking about the # to go with the Three Pointers....  I received NO suggestions from the members of this board...what about "Splash"...

Kinda goes along with the Flush for the dunks (and yes, as Aaron pointed out, I missed one at the last game...)... I've been listening to the PA guys in the background on the TV games for the past few weeks... and they are all just yelling "FOR THREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"...

The Nothing but Net is a throw-back to the BEFORE-Centier Bank sponsorship... when the 3-point baskets were actually sponsored by 4 or 5 businesses each making a donation to the Boys and Girls Clubs "Nothing but Net" program for each one made in the ARC by the home team... we had that moniker for almost as long as we had Centier....
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on January 23, 2018, 06:10:22 PM
"Has Valparaiso jumped the shark? Paul and Parker try to navigate the recent three-game losing streak. Valparaiso managers Robbie Crimmins and Kendall O'Banner join the pod and explain just what it is that managers do. Plus, Paul takes on Iowa."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-jumping-the-shark/audio_8c671722-008e-11e8-a7f4-0fe6fee73071.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/955954092383367168
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/955937207596060673
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/955935844271120384
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on January 30, 2018, 09:43:49 PM
"Union Street Hoops hosts Paul Oren and Parker Gatewood discuss Valparaiso's recent five-game losing streak as well as THAT play from the Illinois State game."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-baptized-in-the-valley/audio_9e82a838-060e-11e8-a741-77922083a2ce.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/958499159669166080
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bigmosmithfan1 on January 31, 2018, 01:08:57 PM
Great pod as always, gentlemen. I will note that the mere fact that they need to spend a few minutes discussing John Kiser's lack of offensive production kinda illustrates the bigger problem this season, no?

(And this isn't a knock on the hosts - I'm glad they backed up with data that we're essentially playing 4-on-5 on offense when he's on the floor. And it isn't even a knock on John - he's a former walk-on who gives maximum effort and does a lot of other things well. And when you're playing with Peters, Jubril, Tevonn, etc. last year, you probably don't want to take any shots away from those guys. But my dude, when we've gone 3-4 minutes without scoring, don't pass up that wide open look....)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on January 31, 2018, 01:32:38 PM
Kiser is being given wide-open shots and he's passing them up. He needs to pull the trigger on some of them. He's not a guy you want taking 10 shots a game but when he finds himself in a very easy look through the flow of the offense take it. I'd also like to see step his free throw shooting (he's not the only one who needs to step up in that department). If you're going to be a "glue-guy" do all the little well.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 07, 2018, 04:09:28 PM
"Anthony Schalk joins Union Street Hoops to discuss a 28-hour journey to Carbondale and back while Ethan Hennessy of Happening Hoops shares his thoughts on student attendance at Valparaiso games. Paul Oren doesn't limit his thoughts to just students as he wonders what will it take to pack the ARC."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-hours-in-america/audio_3efe7bec-0bb0-11e8-8c7d-47a34526f09c.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/961071479516483585
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on February 08, 2018, 04:21:26 AM
Carbondale trippers,

You could have hitchhiked to Marion, IL and hung out with the prisoners in the "camp" section of the Federal Penitentiary and had a better time. I once played a softball game at Marion Fed while Pete Rose served time there but he lost interest very quickly and went back into the his "camp" building which was disappointing to me. What better things did Pete have to do in prison? He could have bet on us losing.

Your trip reminded me of my younger days (about 30 years ago) and spending most of the night in Carbondale visiting college friends before heading back to sanity in St Louis.

http://quatros.com/photos.html

Quatro's Deep Pan Pizza had its start in 1975 after four guys from Chicago (Uno, Dos, Tres ...get it?) opened a pizza joint in an old doughnut bakery. The four guys knew they had a hit on their hands right after opening, but lacking backgrounds in food service and business management, they found themselves going bankrupt within a year.

Enter Steve Payne, an eager 21-year-old college student, who had cut his teeth at the Golden Bear Pancake House. He bought Quatro's in early 1976, but in honor of the original owners he kept the name. Steve had a passion for restaurant management and soon set about turning his new venture into a success.

The first thing Steve did was renovate the interior. At the time the pizzas were still being baked in the same ovens used by the doughnut shop. An old icebox served as a beer cooler. The restaurant did not even have bathrooms! For the convenience of his customers, Steve bought space next door and doubled the size of the dining area.

During his first year in business, Steve found that his flow of clientele depended on when nearby Southern Illinois University was in session. When classes let out for summer break, business dried up.

Fortunately for him, it was 1976, and a large group of Americans was celebrating the Bicentennial by bicycling across the country. Since Carbondale was a designated rest stop, Quatro's soon welcomed a steady influx of customers. That summer over 2000 hungry and thirsty cyclists from all over the country came in for pizza and beer.

Many of these enthusiasts returned home to tell family and friends about the great pizza they had eaten in Southern Illinois. By the time classes began in the fall, Quatro's was on its way to becoming an established fixture in Carbondale. 41 years later, Steve now serves pizza to the college-aged kids of his original customers!




My favourite place to eat in that area was Walt's Pizza in Murphysboro.

http://waltspizza.com/our-history

They must have closed the Murphysboro store and are only in Marion now. Walt was from suburban Chicago and stayed in Southern Illinois after attending college in Carbondale too.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 15, 2018, 03:39:55 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/964252444501962753
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 15, 2018, 05:26:58 PM
"Paul Oren and Parker Gatewood discuss Valparaiso's progress down the stretch of the year, including Wednesday's strong showing at first-place Loyola. Former Valparaiso point guard Erik Buggs talks about the process from going 9-22 as a freshman to the NCAA tournament as a senior."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-turning-the-corner/audio_f18fbbb4-1299-11e8-b34a-431917657065.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/964267304954531840
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 15, 2018, 08:25:35 PM
Some good conversation in this podcast about Paul's article that ruffled the UNI fan's feathers with the foul discrepancies lol. Paul says they're "touchy" like we are. I wouldn't call us "touchy" but we care and we're passionate. We're much more passionate then any fan-base in the Horizon League did. But some good convo about Paul's research.

They touch on Parker Hazen going from starting to not sniffing a minute. Some very interesting conversation here and Paul brought up maybe he might transfer and that's why he isn't getting any minutes, but Paul made it clear he hasn't heard that.

A great interview with Buggs talking about his career at Valpo and the struggles of his team's freshman year.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on February 15, 2018, 09:53:52 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 15, 2018, 08:25:35 PM
Some good conversation in this podcast about Paul's article that ruffled the UNI fan's feathers with the foul discrepancies lol. Paul says they're "touchy" like we are. I wouldn't call us "touchy" but we care and we're passionate. We're much more passionate then any fan-base in the Horizon League did. But some good convo about Paul's research.

They touch on Parker Hazen going from starting to not sniffing a minute. Some very interesting conversation here and Paul brought up maybe he might transfer and that's why he isn't getting any minutes, but Paul made it clear he hasn't heard that.

A great interview with Buggs talking about his career at Valpo and the struggles of his team's freshman year.

Kids are kids,no doubt.  I hope Parker stays as he is really an athletic big who is hard to find.  Maturity and a year under his belt can be all the difference.  yet at the same time, remember that his brother was quick to transfer.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpospartan on February 15, 2018, 10:27:09 PM
Paul, why doesn't The Times ever publish the MVC BB standings?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on February 16, 2018, 11:45:27 AM
Quote from: valpospartan on February 15, 2018, 10:27:09 PMPaul, why doesn't The Times ever publish the MVC BB standings?

Let me rephrase the question into a statement:

Paul, Thank your Editor for not publishing the MVC standings this year.  We look forward to having them next year.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: a3uge on February 16, 2018, 05:27:05 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 15, 2018, 08:25:35 PM
Some good conversation in this podcast about Paul's article that ruffled the UNI fan's feathers with the foul discrepancies lol. Paul says they're "touchy" like we are. I wouldn't call us "touchy" but we care and we're passionate. We're much more passionate then any fan-base in the Horizon League did. But some good convo about Paul's research.

They touch on Parker Hazen going from starting to not sniffing a minute. Some very interesting conversation here and Paul brought up maybe he might transfer and that's why he isn't getting any minutes, but Paul made it clear he hasn't heard that.

A great interview with Buggs talking about his career at Valpo and the struggles of his team's freshman year.
I've said this before, but I would assume Hazen wants a D1 scholarship, and that's why he wouldn't transfer.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on February 16, 2018, 06:03:32 PM
I'm wondering whether or not this mysterious upper body injury will be healed before the end of the season.  If not, might the plan be to plead for a red-shirt given his very limited playing time up to the time of the "injury"?  ???
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on February 16, 2018, 07:09:27 PM
I'm not going to pretend to know how that works, but he's played more then Hazel right? Think it's already been said Hazel wouldn't be able to red shirt.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 16, 2018, 07:19:12 PM
Quote from: vu72 on February 16, 2018, 06:03:32 PM
I'm wondering whether or not this mysterious upper body injury will be healed before the end of the season.  If not, might the plan be to plead for a red-shirt given his very limited playing time up to the time of the "injury"?  ???

The ESPN broadcast for the Loyola game was told Marty's "upper body injury" was something to do with his back.

I also think it's too late to redshirt him. I'm sure the coaches would like to have that one back. May have been young coaching and evaluation mistake. The reason we were told Mileek and Marty weren't Redshirted was because the coaches wanted "competition".  ::) He's only played in 163 minutes this season and most of those came in the OOC. Marty just wasn't ready and he's a guy who needs to refine his physique this offseason and lean down to get a little quicker on his feet. He's already plenty strong but he has bad footwork and that's what puts in him foul trouble when players attack the rim.

The rule is the player can only play in less then 30 percent of the games. He's well passed 30%. He only has 5 DNPs. "Burning" Marty's freshman year should a learning experience for Coach Lottich because the competition argument just hold up in my book.

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on February 16, 2018, 08:32:57 PM
Red shirting is so risky due to injuries (or suspensions). I don't like them.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on February 17, 2018, 03:03:39 AM
Marty's FR season isn't too different from what Antti Nikkila did for us, and he turned out to have fairly productive JR and SR seasons for us.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: 4throwfan on February 19, 2018, 03:12:24 PM
Valpotx, that may be true, but if Nikkila would have been redshirted, then maybe he would have given 3 or 4 productive years, rather than two.

I'm not a fan of redshirting for that purpose, especially in an age of graduate tranferring, but I believe that increased window of production was the point of the earlier posters.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on February 20, 2018, 06:45:48 AM
We are red shirting a bunch even in football where there is no scholarship money.  Not sure what the planning is in that regard but obviously it is the same logic that applies to basketball. Another year in the weight room, another year of learning the system another year of mental maturity.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on February 20, 2018, 07:26:41 AM
and another year, potentially, of tuition money
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VULB#62 on February 20, 2018, 09:34:36 AM
In MBB that extra year is covered by an athletic scholarship.  Regarding non-scholarship football, redshirting is more difficult to swallow, as M mentions.  One thing that helps is that FB is Fall only instead of spanning both fall and spring.  So it's a bit more manageable, but families of red shirted players still have to manage tuition and credits more closely and shoot for a December graduation after that 5th season.  It ain't easy and for that reason many red shirted players in the past have opted not to return for their final season of elegibility.  But that was in the past and returning to a guaranteed losing season was not that attractive.  Things are changing for the better in that regard.  Teams like Drake and Dayton, with winning traditions, have historically red shirted bunches of freshmen and wind up retaining the bulk of them in their 5th year.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on February 20, 2018, 12:13:23 PM
I didn't have the student-support post to go to... so I'll put this in here...

Last Saturday night, we inducted the 1923-24 Basketball team into the Hall of Fame.  the "Victory Five"...won 22 games in a row to start the season. 

The TORCH, Wednesday, February 20, 1924 (page 4) had an article discussing student support for this team... coming home after 4-games 4-wins in 4 days...
Monday night at Luther, Tuesday night at Columbia, Wednesday night at Dubuque, Thursday Night at Campion (in Wisconsin). 

(The February 13th Torch, ended their coverage with this:  "The team will return from the trip about noon Friday.  Detailed word as to when will be reveled here during the week.  A big turnout at the station to meet them, whether they win or lose, would show that the student body is behind them"

(Event took place on Friday February 15th)
VICTORIOUS TEAM WELCOMED HOME
Last Friday afternoon the team after their most successful trip through the week arrived in Valpo, to be greeted by the Band and hundred or more basketball enthusiasts.  Several cars owned by residents of the city were loaned to the fans for the purpose of furnishing transportation to the members of the team from the Station to the Hill.

With the Band leading the procession, a triumphant parade made its way through the town, marching up Lincolnway and then up College Avenue to the campus.  Here more students gathered to give the Victory Five a royal welcoming with school cheers and applause.

Never before have the students displayed such sincere effort in their attempts to show the team their appreciation.  The quintet have done their best; now let's continue with ours.

==========
The night that was published, they included a page 1 article about the "Record Crowd expected for the game with National Powerhouse Adrian College Tonight!" (a Wednesday, February 20, 1924) and the probably Western Conference Championship game on Saturday (February 23) with St. Viator.  Both games have Intramural games as the lead in, starting at 7.

so 94 years ago TODAY, we played National Powerhouse Adrian College in front of a record crowd on a week night game that tipped off at 8pm... and we won!!!  35-33.

Feel the karma.

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on February 20, 2018, 03:39:53 PM
so.. a few weeks later... the 22-game winning streak came to a halt on the road at Kankakee, against St. Viator's College...  The Torch writing is a thing of beauty.  I really think Paul and Mike should try to summarize a game thusly.

From the Torch, March 5, 1924


ST VIATOR 25  VALPO 17

Valpo received her first defeat last Saturday (March 1, 1924) evening at the hands of the strong St. Viators quintet at Kankakee. The final tally gave the Viators five credit for 25 points while Valpo had annexed but 17. The first half of the game was unusually slow. It snapped up for awhile at the beginning of the second period but slowed down again before the end of the second twenty minutes. The Brown and Gold squad were supported on the sidelines by a crowd of Valpo fans estimated at between three hundred and fifty and five hundred. Their spirits ran high even in defeat and the cheering of the Valpo section drowned out that of the St. Viators fans though the Valpoites were outnumbered about five to one.

The unusually large floor seemed to bother the Brown and Gold squad throughout the whole game. They couldn't find each other as they do on an ordinary floor. On top of this there seemed to be a jinx riding every ball that Valpo shot at the basket. If half of the shots taken by Valpo that ordinarily would have counted for two . points had gone through the hoop instead of rolling around the edge and then falling off on the wrong side, Coach Shadoan's team would have won by a twenty-point margin. St. Viators did not play any better basketball than they did here on the previous Saturday night, but the dope had just picked them for victors and everything worked to that end. Valpo's fighters made a good showing with the opening of the second half and for the first five minutes of that period they showed the crowd to some extent of what they are capable of in the way of basketball. Two shots were caged in as many minutes. The crowd went wild, thinking that the Brown and Gold quintet had hit their old-time stride, but the spurt did not last long enough to take the Valpo gang out of the dangerous territory. The game was clean from start to finish. Several fouls were called but none of them were intentionally committed.

The sportsmanship of both teams and of the crowd was all that could be desired. With between five and six thousand people watching the game, yet when a foul was called on either team and the man prepared to shoot, hardly a sound could be heard in the mammoth gymnasium. Harris registered most of the Valpo counters, having four free throws and six field goals. Andy made one basket and Caddy shot one free throw. Many of the Valpo shots were headed straight for the basket and in reality should have been counters, but one after another they would either drop straight out of the ring or else roll around the edge and fall off on the wrong side. As far as scoring was concerned the honors were about evenly divided on the Viators quintette. Barrett was high man with three field goals and two free throws. L. Winterhalter and McGrath were tied for second honors with two baskets apiece. The Viators' playing was anything but spectacular and Coach Shadoan's- quintette running in regular form would have had an easy time with them.

Referee:   Crooks, Illinois  (You can't make this stuff up)



Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on February 20, 2018, 03:57:26 PM
and one last trip down memory lane from that memorable season... you start 22-0, then go 2-4 the rest of the way.  Two of the losses were on a trip through southeastern Michigan... Playing the Michigan State Aggies... and ending the game at Detroit.  Interesting, I can't find which Detroit team it was.   We are not listed on the UDM website historical games for that season... and Wayne State's history doesn't go back that far.   The Torch referred to them in one article as "Detroit Bright", but I can't find any reference to that on line...   anyway... that Michigan State Aggies game must have been a thing that would have Paul entirely up in arms as Valpo was apparently HAZED mercilessly by the officiating in that game...

Here' the article from March 12, 1924

AGGIES WIN 22 TO 12 Valpo met her first defeat on the trip at the hands of the Michigan Aggie five. It was not a basketball defeat but rather a defeat at indoor football. Captain Anderson's crew have been in some rough contests this season, but none of them came anywhere near the dope handed out by the Aggie five. Coach Shadoan's five were not playing in their best form and the unusual roughness of the game tended to destroy what team work there was. Scott was put out of the game on personals before the game had gotten well under way. Referee Ritter then failed to see fouls for the rest of the contest. The V. U. five held up fairly well throughout the first half. With twenty minutes of play over, the score stood at 12-9 with the Aggie five in the lead. In the second period the local outfit did not fare so well. The game got rougher, Anderson injured his arm, and things in general went bad for the Brown and Gold five.


Now, I'll tell you that the Aggies were in their last season under that name... the school was re-chartered the next year as "Michigan State University" and their mascot was changed to the "Staters"; but the newspaper guys didn't like that name, so they made up the nickname "Spartans" one day at the paper.    "No student, alumnus or college official had called up the editor to complain about our audacity in giving the old school a new name, so we ventured into headlines with it. Happily for the experiment, the name took. It began appearing in other newspapers and when the student publication used it, that clinched it."
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on February 20, 2018, 04:53:07 PM
OK, I lied... one more... the end of the year recap by the Torch Editorial Board, April 5, 1924.


"Twenty-four victories out of twenty-eight games played." Show us the Valpo student who is not proud of the record made by the Brown and Gold Victory Five. The alumni, the faculty, and the citizens of Valparaiso, as well as the students, rejoice over Valpo's success in the basketball season just finished. Besides making a record seldom equalled by any basketball team, Valpo has again won a title in the Western Interstate Conference. It is easy to talk about taking the title, but winning it was no simple matter, for every conference contest was a close one—the result was in doubt until the final whistle. That they might overcome their opponents in these games, the Brown and Gold net men were required to live up to the strictest of training. It was not a question of ability which decided the winner in our games with other members of the conference. In nearly every instance they were evenly matched. Our men were victorious because they were willing to pay the price of constant training and because every minute they were in the game the desire to do their best for Valpo was within them. The Victory Five has gained the admiration of sport writers and basketball fans throughout the Middle West. Newspapermen who are not interested in the school have praised our team from the athletic standpoint. But we who are in school here, to whom our school and its name are dear, can only feel our appreciation to the Victory Five; we cannot express it
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on February 20, 2018, 05:14:12 PM
Hopefully our team can annex 75-80 points tonight 😂. Thanks for sharing that.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 23, 2018, 05:01:07 PM
"Valparaiso director of athletics Mark LaBarbera joins Union Street Hoops to cover a variety of topics, including the move to the Missouri Valley Conference, facility renovations and attendance issues at the ARC."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-the-mark-labarbera-episode/article_2b705c4c-18e1-11e8-82a7-731e1a8de062.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/967171804207951872
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: NativeCheesehead on February 23, 2018, 05:07:23 PM
I think ml has done a really good job overall, but why do I feel like listening to this will just piss me off.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 23, 2018, 07:47:07 PM
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on February 23, 2018, 05:07:23 PM
I think ml has done a really good job overall, but why do I feel like listening to this will just piss me off.

Well worth the listen.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on February 23, 2018, 07:57:01 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 23, 2018, 07:47:07 PM
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on February 23, 2018, 05:07:23 PM
I think ml has done a really good job overall, but why do I feel like listening to this will just piss me off.

Well worth the listen.

Very nice to get updates on the overall Athletic Program.  He is a solid AD in my book.  Progress is years and Summit to HL to MVC.

Keep up the good work and keep up the push for a Student Rec Center first!  I could not agree more emphatically on that priority.

Neat to hear the rec center could be stepped in phases.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpopal on February 23, 2018, 08:10:46 PM
I like Mark a lot and think he has done a fine job, but I felt little more than frustration listening to this interview. This basketball season should have served as a wake-up call. However, I heard no concrete changes we can look forward to seeing in promotion, facilities, and attendance, student or overall. I have little optimism anything is going to change that will make the game experience more entertaining and enjoyable. When Mark said attendance was good early in the season but declined after a losing streak, I had to shake my head. The home attendance average for the five games played while Valpo was undefeated and building an 8-0 record was only 2617. I heard nothing in this interview that suggested we would see anything other than more of the same.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: NativeCheesehead on February 23, 2018, 09:54:12 PM
Mark's legacy really boils down to one thing. NCAA Tournament wins. He's young enough to be AD another ten years or more and has shown no signs of wanting to move higher.

I keep going back and forth on this. Sure, he doesn't coach or recruit, but he's the ultimate decision maker in that department. The moves in conferences don't mean a whole lot if we're sitting here in ten years celebrating the 30th anniversary of The Shot having not won any tournament games since FSU.

Facilities upgrade would be wonderful. New parking would be amazing. Hang another Sweet 16 banner and I'll walk from Wal Mart to a gym with a leaky roof to see my team play.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on February 23, 2018, 10:06:05 PM
Quote from: valpopal on February 23, 2018, 08:10:46 PM
I like Mark a lot and think he has done a fine job, but I felt little more than frustration listening to this interview. This basketball season should have served as a wake-up call. However, I heard no concrete changes we can look forward to seeing in promotion, facilities, and attendance, student or overall. I have little optimism anything is going to change that will make the game experience more entertaining and enjoyable. When Mark said attendance was good early in the season but declined after a losing streak, I had to shake my head. The home attendance average for the five games played while Valpo was undefeated and building an 8-0 record was only 2617. I heard nothing in this interview that suggested we would see anything other than more of the same.

Not sure what you expected.  he acknowledged the problems and said they were working on a revised plan.  Obviously there is a long time between now and next season.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 25, 2018, 12:28:26 AM
One of many things I found interesting in this interview was just how involved or knowledgable ML was in recruiting. He stated the #1 priority is recruiting and getting Valley level players. We need more Valley level players he said. So which players on this roster aren't Valley caliber players? I'm not trying to pick on anyone but maybe he's talking about: Parker Hazen (only a FR, mulligan year imo), Micah Bradford (he's played a little better lately but it's been another rough season), Marten Linssen (only a FR, mulligan year imo). Kiser isn't the most physically talented guy but he's proven himself to be solid glue guy contributor and he could get better if he added a reliable 3 point shot.

He said Valpo needs to "cast a wider net" then most other MVC schools from a academic performance standpoint. It makes it tougher to recruit top talent.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on February 26, 2018, 09:16:09 AM
Valpo needs to "cast a wider net" then most other MVC schools from a academic performance standpoint. It makes it tougher to recruit top talent.

That was certainly the case in the commuter school league known as the HL.  In the MVC, Bradley, Evansville, Loyola and Drake all have similar academic expectations.  There are exceptions such as Illinois St who at one time was voted as #1 party school. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bigmosmithfan1 on February 26, 2018, 10:39:35 AM
QuoteThere are exceptions such as Illinois St who at one time was voted as #1 party school.

That might have been true at one time, but Illinois State is now one of the highest rated non-flagship public universities in the country. They're ranked ahead of St. John's, Louisville, Mississippi State, VCU, WVU, New Mexico and Texas Tech (to name a few higher-profile institutions) in the latest U.S. News rankings.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on February 26, 2018, 06:19:23 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 26, 2018, 09:16:09 AM
Valpo needs to "cast a wider net" then most other MVC schools from a academic performance standpoint. It makes it tougher to recruit top talent.

That was certainly the case in the commuter school league known as the HL.  In the MVC, Bradley, Evansville, Loyola and Drake all have similar academic expectations.  There are exceptions such as Illinois St who at one time was voted as #1 party school. 

Northern Iowa is also ranked in the top 10 in the same category as Valpo.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 01, 2018, 02:46:06 PM
"Arch Madness is here! Union Street Hoops hosts Paul Oren (@NWIOren) and Parker Gatewood (@ParkerBGatewood) give their thoughts on end of Valparaiso's regular-season and what success looks like in St. Louis. Missouri State beat reporter Wyatt Wheeler (@WyattWheeler_NL) of the Springfield News-Leader joins the pod to talk Bears and Crusaders."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-arch-madness-preview/article_1068193a-1d8c-11e8-aa73-6b29217f56c0.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/969312577045098503
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on March 05, 2018, 01:34:53 PM
SO.... do these "reporters" WANT me to yell (espouse vs. eschew enthusiasm) when a member of the opposing team hits a three-pointer?  A mere acknowledgement is about all I can muster...  Well, I suppose it's better to recognized for something!

If November 1 is opening day... that's 241 days from now...  I have to admit I turned off the Radford-Liberty game the other day to watch the Cubs pre-season game... 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: zvillehaze on March 16, 2018, 05:21:43 PM
Not sure where to put this, but I'm glad the NWI Times sent pgmado to Detroit to cover Butler.  Appreciate his article and Tweets!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on March 16, 2018, 05:55:44 PM
Quote from: zvillehaze on March 16, 2018, 05:21:43 PM
Not sure where to put this, but I'm glad the NWI Times sent pgmado to Detroit to cover Butler.  Appreciate his article and Tweets!   :thumbsup:

I give Butler a lot grief...part of it is shtick, part of it is a general distaste for the smugness that is "The Butler Way," but hard not to appreciate what they've accomplished. I just wrote a series of stories on Valparaiso's 20-year anniversary of one first round win. Butler has won its last seven first round games. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on March 16, 2018, 06:24:11 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on March 16, 2018, 05:55:44 PM
Quote from: zvillehaze on March 16, 2018, 05:21:43 PM
Not sure where to put this, but I'm glad the NWI Times sent pgmado to Detroit to cover Butler.  Appreciate his article and Tweets!   :thumbsup:

I give Butler a lot grief...part of it is shtick, part of it is a general distaste for the smugness that is "The Butler Way," but hard not to appreciate what they've accomplished. I just wrote a series of stories on Valparaiso's 20-year anniversary of one first round win. Butler has won its last seven first round games. 

And your point is?  I hate Butler.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: usc4valpo on March 16, 2018, 09:27:44 PM
Butler has been successful and they have a right to toot their horn. I give Butler much praise for how their basketball program has evolved and how they are run. I hate to say it but they is jealousy with the Valpo fans.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 20, 2018, 09:08:31 PM
(https://m.popkey.co/fe8997/9wGMD.gif)

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/976276707043938306
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on March 20, 2018, 09:26:09 PM
Did Coach win the over/under contest?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2010 on March 20, 2018, 10:40:43 PM
Does Paul have the gall to ask the questions that need to be asked? Will Lottich answer questions with substance? Will we hear about the Parker situation? Why players would start but then not play? The now-routine suspensions? The push for renovations to the ARC? Ragland interviewing elsewhere? The need to boost interest? Incentivizations for students? Yes? No? Maybe? Or, more of trusting in the process. Time shall tell.

My only wish is that VU Admins would pay attention to what UMBC did. They invested in an $80+ million dollar athletics facility BEFORE making their post-season run! Then stole the hearts of millions who didn't even know they existed. Then used social media to promote their schools. And, even mentioned still needing a sponsor fir their new sports complex??????
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on March 21, 2018, 09:29:00 AM
Maybe, No, Maybe, Maybe, No, Maybe, Yes (I'd bet the head coach would be excited that his assistants are interviewing for head coaching gigs, not so excited if he leaves for another assistant position), Yes, Yes
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 21, 2018, 09:46:37 AM
Quote from: VU2010 on March 20, 2018, 10:40:43 PM
Does Paul have the gall to ask the questions that need to be asked? Will Lottich answer questions with substance? Will we hear about the Parker situation? Why players would start but then not play? The now-routine suspensions? The push for renovations to the ARC? Ragland interviewing elsewhere? The need to boost interest? Incentivizations for students? Yes? No? Maybe? Or, more of trusting in the process. Time shall tell.

My only wish is that VU Admins would pay attention to what UMBC did. They invested in an $80+ million dollar athletics facility BEFORE making their post-season run! Then stole the hearts of millions who didn't even know they existed. Then used social media to promote their schools. And, even mentioned still needing a sponsor fir their new sports complex??????

I'm hoping Lottich gives the fans more then just "trust the process." Coach Lottich has always been a guy who keeps things pretty close to the vest. I doubt he'll give a clear answer on Parker. He's not going to outright say he was bad. He won't publicly put his guys on blast.

A few questions:
-What is the major difference between recruiting Valley players and Horizon League players?
-What is our timeline to compete for Conference regular season titles?
-What are his honest thoughts on the Valley officiating and does he think a few too many calls went against VU this season? What is his style with discussing calls with the refs?
-What was the greatest challenge he faced in the MVC this season?
-How have you evolved as a coach after 2 years on the job? What are some do's and don'ts

What I really want is his opinion on the students. He hasn't shied away from taking subtle shots at the students for things like not standing in the past, which I appreciated. I'd like to know if he's going to go the extra mile like Porter Moser has in the past to drive student turnout. Porter Moser during their dark days was knocking on dorm doors with his players and really engaging with the Loyola student body to build a campus culture. We need to get our student's invested in the program again and that doesn't just fall on Lottich's shoulders but a sincere effort could go a long way. The University should want to get their current students to become die-hard fans because that fandom will crossover when they are alumni and they will continue to feel that connection when they are alums which could equate to more donations and engagement, which is invaluable to Universities.

If Homer, Scott, and Bryce couldn't convince the Administration to invest in facility renovations then it will be almost be a lost cause for Lottich to ask for them. He knew what he was getting into in terms of facilities when he took the job.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 21, 2018, 11:27:43 AM
"Valparaiso head coach Matt Lottich joins Union Street Hoops to talk about the 2017-18 season, including the differences between the Horizon League and Missouri Valley Conference.

Valley associate commissioner Mike Kern joins the pod to talk about Loyola's run to the Sweet Sixteen and what it means for the rest of the Valley. Kern also gives his impressions of Valparaiso's first season in the league."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-lottich-loyola/article_4791feb2-2d1d-11e8-8945-0fac27237e0d.html#tracking-source=home-the-latest

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/976494698478088192
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 21, 2018, 03:53:27 PM
The Valpo Message Board and Vapo Twitter got a "shoutout" in the interview with Coach Lottich lol. I'm glad he doesn't read this board  :thumbsup:

I've always wondered if players ever read this board. I doubt most of them do or even care, but I've notice on twitter that certain players at other programs search their name on twitter and they'll respond to the "criticism" or the love they get from fans. That seems a little unhealthy, imo.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: covufan on March 21, 2018, 05:38:26 PM
Valpo Fan Zone Forum Best Podcast Award?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: nkvu on March 21, 2018, 11:30:24 PM
I found coach's response to the question about calls interesting. His observation about players responding to his emotion i.e. if he starts complaining about calls his players pick up on that and start barking at the officials as well kind of explains his reluctance to do that. I can see that. At the same time it seems to me that a coach can instill in his players the rule that you don't complain to the officials, that's my job. Then show your players that you are willing to do that when it is warranted. Once you establish credibility then if you don't complain your players know to let it go and move on. Result would be the occasional tech on you as coach, fewer on your players.

But that's just a fan's opinion.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on March 22, 2018, 12:11:28 AM
Ben Boggs told me that all players are aware of the board, but most don't read it.  He said that he hoped no one ever said bad things about him. :)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpopal on March 22, 2018, 12:50:27 AM
Quote from: nkvu on March 21, 2018, 11:30:24 PM
I found coach's response to the question about calls interesting. His observation about players responding to his emotion i.e. if he starts complaining about calls his players pick up on that and start barking at the officials as well kind of explains his reluctance to do that. I can see that. At the same time it seems to me that a coach can instill in his players the rule that you don't complain to the officials, that's my job. Then show your players that you are willing to do that when it is warranted. Once you establish credibility then if you don't complain your players know to let it go and move on. Result would be the occasional tech on you as coach, fewer on your players.

But that's just a fan's opinion.


I had a similar reaction. When Lottich said that he was concerned players might pick up on his arguing with the refs and also start "barking at the officials," I questioned whether his approach worked since the players were still getting called for technical fouls. In fact, my opposite opinion is that if the coach has the players' backs and is arguing with the officials, the players will feel no need to do it themselves. Otherwise, when they see the coach isn't strongly objecting to bad calls, the players naturally will.


When asked about the complaints by fans that he wasn't aggressive enough with the refs, I also wondered about Matt's explanation that he "can't control the officials." Nobody thinks or suggests he can "control" the officials, but he certainly can lobby them more forcefully to perhaps have greater influence on their calling a game.


In any case: kudos to Paul for raising the issue with Lottich.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on March 22, 2018, 11:38:22 AM
I completely agree that if the players know that the coach is going to handle those issues, and he makes sure they are aware of that fact, then Markus Golder probably doesn't cause as much grief with other team's players :)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on April 12, 2018, 06:17:09 PM
Podcast: Union Street Hoops (Comings and Goings)

"Paul Oren and Parker Gatewood return to bring all the latest Valparaiso news, including the transfers of Parker Hazen and Marten Linssen, as well as the addition of Daniel Sackey."

http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/podcast-union-street-hoops-comings-and-goings/article_9645810e-3e7b-11e8-b989-cf3deefaa8fe.html
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VULB#62 on April 12, 2018, 08:23:59 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 12, 2018, 06:17:09 PM
Podcast: Union Street Hoops (Comings and Goings)

"Paul Oren and Parker Gatewood return to bring all the latest Valparaiso news, including the transfers of Parker Hazen and Marten Linssen, as well as the addition of Daniel Sackey."

http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/podcast-union-street-hoops-comings-and-goings/article_9645810e-3e7b-11e8-b989-cf3deefaa8fe.html

Thanks 2014 for the heads up. For those of us who want to cut to the chase, could you just list the key points?  From there we can decide if we want to to tune in or not spend the total time on the podcast.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on April 13, 2018, 08:13:18 AM
Quote from: EddieCabot on April 12, 2018, 09:16:31 PMI always listen to the full podcast because I find them very entertaining (and provide a small distraction from my daily schedule).  I'm envious of folks like VULB#62 who have such busy lives that they don't have time to listen to a full 45 minute podcast.  ;D ;D
I listen to Union Street Hoops mainly in the car, and in general, would spend at least that much time nearly every day in windshield time.  Don't really listen to "radio" anymore with the in car bluetooth options and listening to some fairly regular podcasts.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on April 13, 2018, 08:16:39 AM
I got through all but the last 10 minutes on my drive to work this morning, which is way more then I usually get through. Parker provides no real original thoughts, they laugh at Paul for saying Hazen was the next Peters, they laugh at the Suns writer who said AP needs to go, they briefly mention Sackey (Parker says he is fast like Micah Bradford  ???) and JFL (they mention how he kills in open gym at Valpo). They talk briefly about the transfers too.

I usually find these unlistenable, today wasn't much different.  I'm invested in this episode now and will finish it out on the way home (if the Cubs don't have a day game). Hoping they talk about the schedule in the last 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on April 13, 2018, 11:24:25 AM
unlistenable seems a bit harsh. I enjoy the banter and the podcast.

They talk about Sackey & JFL and Paul talks about what he'd do with the available 3 scholarships. They also talk about Micah Bradford's situation and how he apparently looks the best this Spring.

It's definitely worth the listen.

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on April 13, 2018, 12:37:30 PM
You're right, poor choice of words by me....I personally haven't found many of them enjoyable to listen too.  Gave this one a try, and was disappointed din the lack of talk about the incoming freshmen and the lack of talk about the few games for next year we know about.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on April 13, 2018, 01:03:04 PM
Quote from: M on April 13, 2018, 12:37:30 PMYou're right, poor choice of words by me....I personally haven't found many of them enjoyable to listen too.  Gave this one a try, and was disappointed din the lack of talk about the incoming freshmen and the lack of talk about the few games for next year we know about.



In fairness the news of the West Virginia game broke after they had recorded the episode. I haven't heard it yet do they discuss the Myrtle Beach Invitational at all?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on April 13, 2018, 01:22:04 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 13, 2018, 11:24:25 AM
unlistenable seems a bit harsh. I enjoy the banter and the podcast.

They talk about Sackey & JFL and Paul talks about what he'd do with the available 3 scholarships. They also talk about Micah Bradford's situation and how he apparently looks the best this Spring.

It's definitely worth the listen.

I've noticed the informal nature and age of the host has a lot to do with enjoyment / dislike of podcasts.  Being in my mid-30's I relate best to hosts that are my age or older.

Whether it's language used or a mental picture we build in our heads, this has a good deal to do with enjoyment.

"M" do you find other podcasts you enjoy have hosts younger, similar or older than yourself?  Just curious, relatability is of great importance when connecting with a podcaster.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on April 13, 2018, 08:21:28 PM
 I just don't find them entertaining or all that informative. I need to spend less time on social media and here getting all the news then maybe I'd learn something from Paul and Parker.

I'm 35, which podcasts do you recommend I try out? Baseball, college basketball, clean energy, and education.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: a3uge on April 13, 2018, 09:47:37 PM


Quote from: M on April 13, 2018, 08:21:28 PM
I just don't find them entertaining or all that informative. I need to spend less time on social media and here getting all the news then maybe I'd learn something from Paul and Parker.

I'm 35, which podcasts do you recommend I try out? Baseball, college basketball, clean energy, and education.

The episodes with interviews tend to have new and different information. But if you follow the board in the off-season, there's probably not going to be a ton of new information.

For other non-sports and not too political podcasts, I recommend How I Built This, The Freakonomics Podcast, Tell Me Something I Don't Know, and Hidden Brain, in that order.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on April 14, 2018, 05:36:23 AM
Quote from: a3uge on April 13, 2018, 09:47:37 PM


Quote from: M on April 13, 2018, 08:21:28 PM
I just don't find them entertaining or all that informative. I need to spend less time on social media and here getting all the news then maybe I'd learn something from Paul and Parker.

I'm 35, which podcasts do you recommend I try out? Baseball, college basketball, clean energy, and education.

The episodes with interviews tend to have new and different information. But if you follow the board in the off-season, there's probably not going to be a ton of new information.

For other non-sports and not too political podcasts, I recommend How I Built This, The Freakonomics Podcast, Tell Me Something I Don't Know, and Hidden Brain, in that order.

a3uge is spot on, How I Built This and Freakonomics are top shelf.  A few others I enjoy:

Stuff You Should Know
Science VS
This American Life
Radio Lab
Planet Money (short and interesting)
Radio Lab presents More Perfect (great deep stories on some of our nations biggest Supreme Court rulings, makes it human)

And finally Ted Radio Hour.  I have a lot of windshield time (commute and travel for work).

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on April 18, 2018, 01:33:26 PM
For a offseason Union Street Hoops guest I'd love to hear from someone in the Athletics Department about the plans to increase (restore) student attendance and attendance for general admission. Lexi Nichols (Assistant Director of Marketing for Athletics) and Erica Fedornock (Athletic Ticket Operations Manager) would be interesting guests. I really want to hear how the Athletics Department plans on addressing all the concerns in this thread: http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=3075.175 .
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpo64 on April 18, 2018, 03:12:29 PM
W's put people in the seats
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on May 03, 2018, 06:29:10 PM
"Valparaiso walk-on Steve Helm joins Union Street Hoops to discuss his first year with the Crusaders, playing in the Duneland Athletic Conference and his upcoming Mormon mission."

http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-the-steve-helm-episode/article_8ae7d1b4-4f0f-11e8-9e91-b3607424351c.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/992140664245809152
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on June 03, 2018, 08:11:32 PM
When can we expect the latest episode of USH to go up on nwitimes.com for those of us who don't have iTunes, or is the podcast moving to itunes permanently?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on June 05, 2018, 09:37:52 AM
"It's been a slow offseason for the Valparaiso basketball program, but Union Street Hoops is back to go through the latest developments, including the arrival of Eron Gordon and the non-return of Joe Burton.

We also celebrate longtime Union Street Hoops co-host Parker Gatewood in his final episode."

http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/podcast-union-street-hoops-farewell-parker/article_717e6b8c-68c5-11e8-8264-3f3c71ab8d88.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1004008516187717633
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on June 05, 2018, 10:17:13 AM
I guess that means I'll need to cut a new "Opening" ???
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on June 20, 2018, 07:10:29 PM
"Former Valparaiso player Chris Artis joins Union Street Hoops to talk about his time with the Crusaders. From transferring to Valparaiso from Eastern Washington to helping the Crusaders earn their first Division I NCAA tournament appearance, Artis shares a journey that still touches the program today. "

https://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/podcast-union-street-hoops-the-chris-artis-episode/article_bcc27a8c-74cf-11e8-a5f2-df728546cd56.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1009551702385496071
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Chairback on June 20, 2018, 07:19:39 PM
I thought we had that Boston College game won.  they had scoonie penn and danya abrams, but we had the better team and just blew it at the end.  Probably the loss I get most mad about in school history.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on June 20, 2018, 08:12:24 PM
That was one of the best interviews in USH history. I met CA once at a game and he seems like a really great dude. It seems like every successful team needs a guy like CA on the team.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: ValpoFan on June 20, 2018, 08:27:50 PM
I haven't listened to the podcast yet but I can't wait to do so.
Chris Artis is one of THE CLASSIEST people you will ever meet. He is a loyal alum and a great family man with a beautiful basketball mind, and just a wonderful all-around man. I hope to see him on the coaching staff sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on June 21, 2018, 09:23:11 AM
we have a spot on the coaching staff....
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on June 21, 2018, 09:48:35 AM
Probably will have one, or maybe there are two now, until the end of the month.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on July 06, 2018, 02:57:48 PM
So... this next episode is going to be fun eh?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on July 06, 2018, 06:45:21 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on July 06, 2018, 02:57:48 PM
So... this next episode is going to be fun eh?

Yes indeed. Lot's of Valpo Hoops news since USH's last podcast

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1015306287159152642
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on July 06, 2018, 07:14:57 PM
Co-hosted by???   
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on July 06, 2018, 09:57:35 PM
Quote from: talksalot on July 06, 2018, 07:14:57 PM
Co-hosted by???   

If Paul wants to give a shot to some students who are involved with WVUR I'd recommend Danny Dalenberg and Ben Ariano as potential co-hosts. They call the games on the radio when Todd is working the TV side. They follow the program pretty closely.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on July 10, 2018, 10:15:59 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1016882925449744385
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on July 12, 2018, 01:53:02 PM
"News has come out of every corner of the Valparaiso basketball program this month. Join NWI Times beat reporter Paul Oren (@NWIOren) as he breaks down the additions of Nick Robinson and Deion Lavender, as well as the hirings of Todd Townsend and Rob Holloway.

Former Valparaiso star Ryan Broekhoff joins the pod to talk about signing with the Dallas Mavericks."

https://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/podcast-union-street-hoops-the-new-and-the-old/article_4e13b22c-85f5-11e8-a01f-3b8dba7c0673.html#tracking-source=home-the-latest

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1017462195645505536
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on August 21, 2018, 01:31:00 PM
Any chance of a new USH podcast coming out soon?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on August 22, 2018, 02:30:05 PM
O Oren, Oren, wherefore art thou Union Street Hoops?

Quite a bit of relevant news the last few days with schedule news and a very important recruiting visit this weekend. Could make for a good episode.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on August 24, 2018, 03:35:02 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1032392609702891520

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Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on August 24, 2018, 05:14:45 PM
"Valparaiso released its 2018-19 non-conference schedule and beat reporter Paul Oren is here to breakdown each game, including a pair of contests against Sweet Sixteen participants West Virginia and Texas A&M.

Purdue Northwest men's basketball coach Boomer Roberts joins the pod to talk about having the opportunity to play Valparaiso.

Former NWI Times reporter Sean Hayden also joins Union Street Hoops on the 15-year anniversary of Scott Drew leaving the Crusaders for Baylor. Hayden shares some of his memories from the sudden coaching change."

https://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/podcast-union-street-hoops-the-schedule-episode/article_ff9ef152-a7e5-11e8-8343-d3349fc364be.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1033109683509370880
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Chairback on August 24, 2018, 09:46:53 PM
I think what you are missing Paul is we are all worried about attendance declining.  This non conf home schedule does nothing to help that.  This home non conf schedule just hurts it.  That is our only beef, or at least mine.  It can be better and I question those in charge of making the schedule. 

I love your podcasts but disagree with your view in his one. It just can't be justified.  Plus way too long of a focus with PNW. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on August 25, 2018, 07:58:51 PM
Quote from: Chairback on August 24, 2018, 09:46:53 PM
I think what you are missing Paul is we are all worried about attendance declining.  This non conf home schedule does nothing to help that.  This home non conf schedule just hurts it.  That is our only beef, or at least mine.  It can be better and I question those in charge of making the schedule. 

I love your podcasts but disagree with your view in his one. It just can't be justified.  Plus way too long of a focus with PNW. 

Definitely fair points. Thanks for listening!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on September 20, 2018, 09:11:35 PM
"The 2018-19 basketball season is here! (Kind of) The Missouri Valley Conference held its annual Media Day event in St. Louis on Wednesday, Sept. 19. NWI Times beat reporter Paul Oren was on hand for the festivities.

Guests of the pod this week include Valparaiso coaches Matt Lottich and Mary Evans, players Bakari Evelyn, Markus Golder, Grace Hales and Meredith Hamlet, as well as Valley commissioner Doug Elgin."

https://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/podcast-union-street-hoops-media-day-musings/article_c2a97f5e-bd1d-11e8-a262-bf2e44623b8d.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1042894974889676805
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Chairback on September 20, 2018, 09:48:24 PM
Couple of interesting things stood out in this podcast. 

1) the commish says an upgrade to the ARC is coming.  Nothing from the Valpo side but the commish speaks to it. 
2) no mention of Bradford whatsoever
3) scheduling, no one is asking for P5 for home OOC.  But we should be able to get in decent to above average mid majors.

I like that the women's team was included.  I agree with Paul that the program appears to be on the rise.   
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VULB#62 on September 20, 2018, 10:08:28 PM
There is something about Evans that speaks success I think she wiil be  a winner
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on September 21, 2018, 07:19:28 AM
In noting that the conference has great facilities around the league, Commissioner Elgin added,

"Valpo is in a position now where they're going to upgrade their facility. We know that's coming."

From a Valpo perspective this is the most significant, revealing comment made at the entire event.

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on September 21, 2018, 08:31:40 AM
Quote from: wh on September 21, 2018, 07:19:28 AM
In noting that the conference has great facilities around the league, Commissioner Elgin added,

"Valpo is in a position now where they're going to upgrade their facility. We know that's coming."

From a Valpo perspective this is the most significant, revealing comment made at the entire event.



I'm thinking the facility improvements he might be referring to is the ongoing work on the Hilltop gym (practice facility).

If he's talking about a real renovation to the ARC I'd be pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on September 21, 2018, 08:33:58 AM
I have heard that there has been a shift from "new rec center first" to "basketball arena improvements first" in regards to what they asking donors to contribute to and fund.

Hopefully this is another piece to show that improvements are top of the list.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on September 21, 2018, 08:38:05 AM
I guess I am a little confused.... I thought that the Missouri Valley Conference basketball media day was a large event with streaming media interviews of coaches, players and other MVC staff interviews and announcements.  Didn't I watch something like that last year??? I go to the MVC basketball news page and there literally is only 2 references to the media day, the most recent is an Adobe Spark page called "#The Valley Runs Deep".  Did I miss it??? Am I looking in the wrong place?? Is it still coming?? Whats the deal?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on September 21, 2018, 08:48:30 AM
Quote from: FWalum on September 21, 2018, 08:38:05 AM
I guess I am a little confused.... I thought that the Missouri Valley Conference basketball media day was a large event with streaming media interviews of coaches, players and other MVC staff interviews and announcements.  Didn't I watch something like that last year??? I go to the MVC basketball news page and there literally is only 2 references to the media day, the most recent is an Adobe Spark page called "#The Valley Runs Deep".  Did I miss it??? Am I looking in the wrong place?? Is it still coming?? Whats the deal?

Yeah it's generally streamed live on espn3, but maybe it shifted once espn+ started. It's earlier this year than past years. Comcast SportsNet Chicago puts together a hour long show of the highlights/interviews from the event and airs it on live TV closer to the start of the season.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on September 21, 2018, 10:22:43 AM
Quote from: FWalum on September 21, 2018, 08:38:05 AM
I guess I am a little confused.... I thought that the Missouri Valley Conference basketball media day was a large event with streaming media interviews of coaches, players and other MVC staff interviews and announcements.  Didn't I watch something like that last year??? I go to the MVC basketball news page and there literally is only 2 references to the media day, the most recent is an Adobe Spark page called "#The Valley Runs Deep".  Did I miss it??? Am I looking in the wrong place?? Is it still coming?? Whats the deal?

They retooled the event this year and pushed it up several weeks. Yes, it was odd to have a Media Day without a preseason poll of All-Conference teams. Talking to Media was one small part of the day. The Valley filmed a lot video content with the coaches and players that will be used on broadcasts later on this year.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on September 21, 2018, 10:38:35 AM
I really enjoyed this podcast, especially the format of multiple short interviews instead of one primary guest.  My observations (many are repeats of comments above):

1.  I don't follow WBB closely, but was very impressed with the players and new coach.  Looking forward to the season!
2.  Good to hear Coach Lottich's view on scheduling.  Sounds like they work very hard at it, so I expect it will continue to improve.
3.  Disappointed that Commish Elgin didn't have any solutions for replacing the MVC/MWC challenge series.  That's now another hurdle that MVC teams have to face in non-con scheduling.
4.  Good to hear Elgin recognize and praise Valpo's post-season tournament success ... this sounds like a key factor in Valpo's selection.
5.  Thrilled to hear that Valpo will be making facility upgrades.  I'm not sure the university feels the same way, since they would probably like to make that announcement once the upgrade plans are more concrete. 

I've been critical of some posters here who are already pointing to '19-'20 as "the year" for Valpo ... I'm thrilled that the coaches/players are convinced that this should be the year they climb to the top of the Valley.  Valpo is every bit as talented and experienced as any other team ... why not them and why not now?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VULB#62 on September 21, 2018, 12:51:09 PM
And did my ears deceive me, or did Elgin mention facilities improvements twice in his interview?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on September 21, 2018, 02:32:41 PM
Quote from: EddieCabot on September 21, 2018, 10:38:35 AM
I've been critical of some posters here who are already pointing to '19-'20 as "the year" for Valpo ... I'm thrilled that the coaches/players are convinced that this should be the year they climb to the top of the Valley.  Valpo is every bit as talented and experienced as any other team ... why not them and why not now?

This is the only team I follow where the fans and local press have lower expectations than the players and coaching staff.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on September 21, 2018, 02:52:54 PM
Quote from: wh on September 21, 2018, 02:32:41 PM
Quote from: EddieCabot on September 21, 2018, 10:38:35 AM
I've been critical of some posters here who are already pointing to '19-'20 as "the year" for Valpo ... I'm thrilled that the coaches/players are convinced that this should be the year they climb to the top of the Valley.  Valpo is every bit as talented and experienced as any other team ... why not them and why not now?

This is the only team I follow where the fans and local press have lower expectations than the players and coaching staff.


It's kinda like we are expecting the other shoe to drop ala last year with Joe Burton and Tevonn and the previous year with Alec and Jubril.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on September 21, 2018, 04:19:19 PM
Personally, I just noticed the new "Opening Music"... :)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on September 22, 2018, 09:43:17 PM
If possible I'd love for you to get an interview with Mark Adams to discuss this new scheduling alliance he's putting together and his scheduling strategies. Do you know if Valpo-- or any MVC institution for that matter-- is or plans on becoming a member of this? Personally I think it's a great idea.

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on September 24, 2018, 10:55:19 PM
Quote from: talksalot on September 21, 2018, 04:19:19 PM
Personally, I just noticed the new "Opening Music"... :)

All good things must come to an end John. While I loved your opening, it's time for a new feel. Parker has moved to Florida, so the old opening didn't make much sense. People that listen know what USH is now and the intro was a bit long for my liking. I'm sure most people just skipped through it after a while. I've gone back and forth on a new co-host, but my preferred options haven't really come to fruition. Here's hoping people still enjoy the pod if it's just me and some random guests.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on September 25, 2018, 09:30:20 AM
Quote from: wh on September 21, 2018, 07:19:28 AM
In noting that the conference has great facilities around the league, Commissioner Elgin added,

"Valpo is in a position now where they're going to upgrade their facility. We know that's coming."

From a Valpo perspective this is the most significant, revealing comment made at the entire event.



PO - Clearly, Elgin is inferring that a facility improvement plan is in the works at Valpo. This is a huge news item for Valpo fans. If MH is aware of what Elgin said, Im sure he has a response prepared. Will you or your compadre Be following up with him about it?  If not, I guess I'll try to ask him myself at the open practice event for season ticket holders.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on September 25, 2018, 10:24:39 AM
Quote from: wh on September 25, 2018, 09:30:20 AM
Quote from: wh on September 21, 2018, 07:19:28 AM
In noting that the conference has great facilities around the league, Commissioner Elgin added,

"Valpo is in a position now where they're going to upgrade their facility. We know that's coming."

From a Valpo perspective this is the most significant, revealing comment made at the entire event.



PO - Clearly, Elgin is inferring that a facility improvement plan is in the works at Valpo. This is a huge news item for Valpo fans. If MH is aware of what Elgin said, Im sure he has a response prepared. Will you or your compadre Be following up with him about it?  If not, I guess I'll try to ask him myself at the open practice event for season ticket holders.

I'm wondering if they are planning a full scale Reno or improve bing smaller things?

He was very vague.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VULB#62 on September 25, 2018, 11:40:25 AM
Any visible improvement is a step in a positive direction.  And the more the better. but even if they just replaced the PA sound system this year, it would signal a continued investment
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on September 25, 2018, 12:14:15 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on September 25, 2018, 11:40:25 AM
Any visible improvement is a step in a positive direction.  And the more the better. but even if they just replaced teh PA sound system this year, it would signal a continued investment

Reminds me of when my wife's lazy kid brother lived with us and at about the 6 month mark he started getting up before noon. Baby steps...
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on September 25, 2018, 05:51:03 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on September 24, 2018, 10:55:19 PM
Quote from: talksalot on September 21, 2018, 04:19:19 PM
Personally, I just noticed the new "Opening Music"... :)

All good things must come to an end John. While I loved your opening, it's time for a new feel. Parker has moved to Florida, so the old opening didn't make much sense. People that listen know what USH is now and the intro was a bit long for my liking. I'm sure most people just skipped through it after a while. I've gone back and forth on a new co-host, but my preferred options haven't really come to fruition. Here's hoping people still enjoy the pod if it's just me and some random guests.

I told you after week 3 that I was already tired of the other one.  Maybe you can use go Cubs go...or Jack brickhouse yelling hey hey!  But you are winning time of possession.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on September 25, 2018, 07:28:55 PM
Quote from: talksalot on September 25, 2018, 05:51:03 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on September 24, 2018, 10:55:19 PM
Quote from: talksalot on September 21, 2018, 04:19:19 PM
Personally, I just noticed the new "Opening Music"... :)

All good things must come to an end John. While I loved your opening, it's time for a new feel. Parker has moved to Florida, so the old opening didn't make much sense. People that listen know what USH is now and the intro was a bit long for my liking. I'm sure most people just skipped through it after a while. I've gone back and forth on a new co-host, but my preferred options haven't really come to fruition. Here's hoping people still enjoy the pod if it's just me and some random guests.

I told you after week 3 that I was already tired of the other one.  Maybe you can use go Cubs go...or Jack brickhouse yelling hey hey!  But you are winning time of possession.

Well you are both appreciated for your contributions!  Keep 'em Coming!!!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on October 11, 2018, 03:41:58 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1050456489364742144
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on October 20, 2018, 03:04:34 PM
A great episode with some great interviews.

https://player.fm/series/1306056/219178402

https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/1053738335846449152
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on October 23, 2018, 09:01:40 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1054912125880201216
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: humbleopinion on October 24, 2018, 05:30:04 AM
I.T, assistance requested.  How do I get Alexa to play the podcast?  What request do I make?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on October 24, 2018, 12:51:49 PM
Quote from: humbleopinion on October 24, 2018, 05:30:04 AM
I.T, assistance requested.  How do I get Alexa to play the podcast?  What request do I make?

If it's "Alexa, play Valpoliberal" I know two guys who will never listen again.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on October 26, 2018, 06:59:32 PM
"It's the eve of the 2018-19 college basketball season and NWI Times beat reporter Paul Oren has released the Over/Under prop bets for Valparaiso's upcoming season.

Listen to the latest episode of Union Street Hoops as Paul sits down with the Voice of Valparaiso Athletics, Todd Ickow, to discuss the Over/Under props. Todd shares his picks for the upcoming season and you can too!"

https://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/podcast-union-street-hoops-the---over-under-episode/article_04c7f880-d95b-11e8-bf8e-37fa2177f384.html#tracking-source=home-the-latest

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1055918814200762368
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on October 26, 2018, 07:05:42 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on October 26, 2018, 06:59:32 PM
"It's the eve of the 2018-19 college basketball season and NWI Times beat reporter Paul Oren has released the Over/Under prop bets for Valparaiso's upcoming season.

Listen to the latest episode of Union Street Hoops as Paul sits down with the Voice of Valparaiso Athletics, Todd Ickow, to discuss the Over/Under props. Todd shares his picks for the upcoming season and you can too!"

https://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/podcast-union-street-hoops-the---over-under-episode/article_04c7f880-d95b-11e8-bf8e-37fa2177f384.html#tracking-source=home-the-latest

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1055918814200762368

EXCELLENT episode Paul, thanks for doing such a great job for this little old Valpo program!  We are spoiled to have a guy that is this willing to donate his time and expertise to our program.  Keep up the good work.  You and Todd Ickow have great rapport, would be stellar having you two contribute with more frequency!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VULB#62 on October 26, 2018, 09:29:23 PM
It gave me a great perspective on our kids and the season to come.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: nkvu on October 26, 2018, 10:30:55 PM
Enjoyed Todd's insights on this year's team. With so many new players who are expected to be major contributors it helps to have someone with Todd's eye evaluating them. But like him, I wonder where the rebounds are going to come from. With our fives seeming to be likely under performers (Smits sounds like a potential major disappointment if McMillan ends up starting at the 5) we stand to get killed on the boards in a lot of games. But I will reserve final judgement until I see the team play.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VULB#62 on October 27, 2018, 09:10:21 AM
I am happy that Mileek has shown much improvement over the off-season according to all reports and in listening to Todd on the podcast. Now he is rumored to be our starting 5. But wait. Isn't this the same kid who most times last year when inserted into a game picked up 3 fouls in an eye blink because he couldn't match his opponent's quickness or something like that?  As I recall from last year, posters on this board were concerned about him being a defensive liability. What may have changed?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on October 27, 2018, 09:37:36 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on October 27, 2018, 09:10:21 AM
I am happy that Mileek has shown much improvement over the off-season according to all reports and in listening to Todd on the podcast. Now he is rumored to be our starting 5. But wait. Isn't this the same kid who most times last year when inserted into a game picked up 3 fouls in an eye blink because he couldn't match his opponent's quickness or something like that?  As I recall from last year, posters on this board were concerned about him being a defensive liability. What may have changed?

Nothing of substance, it has to be proven in game.  Practice can only illustrate so much growth.  IMO his top priority is controlling his aggression level...
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: tiny707 on October 27, 2018, 03:48:35 PM
Looks like starters will be Javon, Deion, Bakari, Ryan and Mileek.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: justducky on October 27, 2018, 04:48:22 PM
Quote from: tiny707 on October 27, 2018, 03:48:35 PM
Looks like starters will be Javon, Deion, Bakari, Ryan and Mileek.
Totally from my gut but I will put the number of starts for each at Javon 20, Deion 12, Bakari all, Ryan all, and Mileek 8. The entire bench has started or could start situationally. This is good because the more options we have the better.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on October 27, 2018, 05:06:53 PM
Quote from: tiny707 on October 27, 2018, 03:48:35 PM
Looks like starters will be Javon, Deion, Bakari, Ryan and Mileek.

That's (arguably) 4-players that had insignificant to NO minutes on last years VU team . . .

Mileek must've really made strides if coach supplants Smirolla at Center.  I know "starter" is no guarantee of having the minutes lead at that position but it's a significant statement to Smits.  I previously thought Chef's post about Mileek playing C was more of a matchup driven option rather than season starting option.  It is noteworthy that Sorolla being injured to start the season was likely the reasoning behind Mileek getting the nod.  Has Smits really fallen to 3rd string Center?

Key Takeaways from Union Street Hoops:
-Why are our coaches asking Todd Ickow at practice "if this team is better than last years"?  Maybe it's because 50% of them were not around last year . . . still felt like a really odd thing to ask of Ickow.
-Deion Lavender "right up there as the biggest surprise, really really solid with the basketball.  He's a true PG and can get to the basket while Bakari will play off the ball" (Ickow)
-Javon Freeman is beyond a normal mid-major recruit, as is Daniel Sackey (Ickow)
-Daniel Sackey is Buggs with a quality shot.  But the "coaches are working with him to limit his TOs" (Ickow)
-Fazekas "is beyond most MVC type players" (Ickow)
-Gordon looks tremendous, "he looks like a Big East player"
-Markus Golder, I was really hoping to hear Ickow and PO talk about his ball handing improving but no mention, that alone will limit his season success IMO
-"We will be a better Free Throw shooting team this year.  Your top guys shooing FTs will be Fazekas, Bakari and Golder, all excellent FT shooters" (Ickow)

Bring on the season already, I know many of us are ready to see some college basketball again!!!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on October 27, 2018, 05:15:30 PM
Quote from: justducky on October 27, 2018, 04:48:22 PM
Quote from: tiny707 on October 27, 2018, 03:48:35 PM
Looks like starters will be Javon, Deion, Bakari, Ryan and Mileek.
Totally from my gut but I will put the number of starts for each at Javon 20, Deion 12, Bakari all, Ryan all, and Mileek 8. The entire bench has started or could start situationally. This is good because the more options we have the better.

They harped on the podcast that coach plans on keeping players at one position for much of the season.  If I read between the lines correctly, our coaches felt that last years team hadn't a clue what they were supposed to be doing in the musical chairs (position) that was going on.  So if that is the case, I think what we are seeing is Coach Lottich learning from last years "throw ___ at the wall approach".

If I can borrow an example, University of Michigan football (last year) really bit themselves in the ____ by not starting the season with set rolls within the team (in particular QB).  Their HC made a concerted effort his year to name starters and get players comfortable in their roles and there is a noticeable change in execution by this years Michigan football team.  I think the same can be said about Coach Lottich's possible mindset here.  Although I know that we had adversity, there was still a lot of position swapping going on throughout our losing streak around Christmas and in January.  Some of that was us reeling from the gut shots of mono and losing Burton, but also a lot was players moving all over the position depth chart and being asked to do very different things.  I felt during those early MVC games that we were running around the court aimless.

Again, this was a small excerpt from the Podcast and I am reading between the lines but I don't think that the starters will change as much as last year.  I also think that players will mostly stay "in position" for the majority of their minutes. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: tiny707 on October 27, 2018, 06:04:03 PM
Also, a third place finish is a possible....
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: justducky on October 28, 2018, 10:19:20 AM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on October 27, 2018, 05:06:53 PM-Deion Lavender "right up there as the biggest surprise, really really solid with the basketball.  He's a true PG and can get to the basket
If this proves true it is enormous. A senior point guard who can reliably deliver at both ends could make the difference!  :o I think I will need to see this to believe it!

Quote from: tiny707 on October 27, 2018, 06:04:03 PMAlso, a third place finish is a possible....
There are always some question marks but if Deion and our point play looks good in November then our entire season could be ratcheted up a notch.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on October 28, 2018, 01:30:23 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on October 27, 2018, 05:06:53 PM
Quote from: tiny707 on October 27, 2018, 03:48:35 PM
Looks like starters will be Javon, Deion, Bakari, Ryan and Mileek.
Key Takeaways from Union Street Hoops:
-Why are our coaches asking Todd Ickow at practice "if this team is better than last years"?  Maybe it's because 50% of them were not around last year . . . still felt like a really odd thing to ask of Ickow.

Doesn't Todd always get this level of insider access? Him being to able to observe practice probably helps him during his broadcasts of the game, as well as helping him ask the right questions in his weekly Valpo All-Access Coaches Show with Coach Lottich.

Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on October 27, 2018, 05:15:30 PM
Quote from: justducky on October 27, 2018, 04:48:22 PM
Quote from: tiny707 on October 27, 2018, 03:48:35 PM
Looks like starters will be Javon, Deion, Bakari, Ryan and Mileek.
Totally from my gut but I will put the number of starts for each at Javon 20, Deion 12, Bakari all, Ryan all, and Mileek 8. The entire bench has started or could start situationally. This is good because the more options we have the better.

They harped on the podcast that coach plans on keeping players at one position for much of the season.  If I read between the lines correctly, our coaches felt that last years team hadn't a clue what they were supposed to be doing in the musical chairs (position) that was going on.  So if that is the case, I think what we are seeing is Coach Lottich learning from last years "throw ___ at the wall approach".

If I can borrow an example, University of Michigan football (last year) really bit themselves in the ____ by not starting the season with set rolls within the team (in particular QB).  Their HC made a concerted effort his year to name starters and get players comfortable in their roles and there is a noticeable change in execution by this years Michigan football team.  I think the same can be said about Coach Lottich's possible mindset here.  Although I know that we had adversity, there was still a lot of position swapping going on throughout our losing streak around Christmas and in January.  Some of that was us reeling from the gut shots of mono and losing Burton, but also a lot was players moving all over the position depth chart and being asked to do very different things.  I felt during those early MVC games that we were running around the court aimless.

Again, this was a small excerpt from the Podcast and I am reading between the lines but I don't think that the starters will change as much as last year.  I also think that players will mostly stay "in position" for the majority of their minutes. 

The loss of Burton right before conference play really mucked things up and the Tevonn's case of mono threw a wrench in things. But the coaches were able to experiment a bit last season, which could pay dividends down the road. Bakari was forced to play more off the ball and he thrived there. Golder was forced into playing some PF last season and he actually played well against certain matchups. Bradford thought he could be Steph Curry during the first half of season and hopefully we'll never see that disaster ever again. I really want to know if he was given the green light to play that way in the first half. I hope not. I know we have been speculating an eventual Micah transfer for years but if he's just bench warmer this season it might become a reality.

Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on October 27, 2018, 05:06:53 PM
Quote from: tiny707 on October 27, 2018, 03:48:35 PM
Looks like starters will be Javon, Deion, Bakari, Ryan and Mileek.
Mileek must've really made strides if coach supplants Smirolla at Center.  I know "starter" is no guarantee of having the minutes lead at that position but it's a significant statement to Smits.  I previously thought Chef's post about Mileek playing C was more of a matchup driven option rather than season starting option.  It is noteworthy that Sorolla being injured to start the season was likely the reasoning behind Mileek getting the nod.  Has Smits really fallen to 3rd string Center?

What I really find interesting is that Mileek is going to be playing the 5 Long-Term and Sorolla was going to win the starting job, that would have put a minutes crunch on Smits this season. We are recruiting another true Center in Bediako for the 2019 class. Does that mean that the Coaches are accepting a potential transfer this offseason?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on October 28, 2018, 03:40:59 PM
I don't think so. Mileek at 5 gives them the opportunity to go small and play fast. Smits and Sorolla are gone after next season. If they land Bediako he can develop that first year and be ready to step in as a bigger contributor as a sophomore.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on October 30, 2018, 06:08:48 PM
https://twitter.com/rwweinstein/status/1057408257847947264
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on November 28, 2018, 11:13:42 AM

Latest episode of Union Street Hoops was posted yesterday at https://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-is-valpo-good/article_81a937be-f2a2-11e8-8bcf-a3a4cc75bc88.html (https://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-is-valpo-good/article_81a937be-f2a2-11e8-8bcf-a3a4cc75bc88.html)

A good "pick me up" for anyone feeling down about the team.  Paul has a way of finding the positives and putting things in proper perspective.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on November 29, 2018, 09:54:30 AM
Thanks Paul for this edition of the podcast. Sorely needed and greatly appreciated. I felt very encouraged after hearing it and feel much better now that we've beaten UNLV.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: historyman on December 01, 2018, 03:42:52 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on October 27, 2018, 05:06:53 PMHas Smits really fallen to 3rd string Center?

After the UNLV game, which I attended in LV, no one could say that Smits has not emerged as Valpo's starting center. He is really making a difference this year.

If only he had been able to drop in another 5 points I would have won $108 on the 140 point Over/Under. I picked over on my hotel's sports book. I was really let down by UNLV's pathetic offense in the second half. They didn't cover their half of the 140 by not scoring 70 while Valpo and Derrik did cover their portion of the Over/Under. Just my luck. I did cover the -7.5 spread in favor of UNLV easily. Flew back from Vegas yesterday.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on December 05, 2018, 08:08:57 PM

Latest USH podcast dropped today, and I enjoyed it as usual.  I like that Paul, who usually takes the coaching staff at their word, questioned some of Lottich's post-game comments.  Very insightful.

Off topic, but enjoyed Paul reminiscing about the glory days of having take-charge guys like Brandon Wood and Cory Johnson on the team.  Those were some awesome teams that racked up a lot of wins and did it in an exciting way!  I think Freeman (as he matures and develops) has the potential to be a player like Wood who could take us back to NCAA tournament glory.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on December 05, 2018, 09:05:47 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1070450531808755717
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on December 05, 2018, 10:10:25 PM
Quote from: EddieCabot on December 05, 2018, 08:08:57 PM

Latest USH podcast dropped today, and I enjoyed it as usual.  I like that Paul, who usually takes the coaching staff at their word, questioned some of Lottich's post-game comments.  Very insightful.

Off topic, but enjoyed Paul reminiscing about the glory days of having take-charge guys like Brandon Wood and Cory Johnson on the team.  Those were some awesome teams that racked up a lot of wins and did it in an exciting way!  I think Freeman (as he matures and develops) has the potential to be a player like Wood who could take us back to NCAA tournament glory.

Paul raises a very interesting point about this team not having "The Guy".

We have somewhat of a balance but we don't have a guy who can take over a game and get us consistent points in the clutch right now. I thought that guy was going to be Fazekas or Bakari but their shooting has been MIA in the important games. Fazekas hit that big game tying shot but he's been very inconsistent in the first 1/3 of the season.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on December 05, 2018, 10:31:43 PM
To answer his question about team building what you need--especially in the college game--is a balanced attack but with 3-5 guys who are capable of being "the guy" on a given night. This way, the opposing defense doesn't know where it's going to come from and therefore can't key in on any one guy. Last year's Loyola team is a perfect example of this. One night it was Ingram then Townes the next night  Then Custer then Krutwig then Richardson. Balance, unselfishness, great coaching, and a little luck can make big things like a final four run possible.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpopal on December 05, 2018, 11:00:07 PM
Being in the holiday spirit already and trying to be "optimistic" after the horrible game against High Point, I like to think the team we see in the MVC season this year will be better from what we have witnessed thus far. Will there be a guy who leads? Maybe, or maybe the team will improve as a whole with any guy being the go-to player in any given game. Fazekas has been streaky in his shooting, but is still a very good 44% from the 3-point line, and I'm hoping his consistency game after game will improve. Evelyn had foot surgery during the off season, and I'm hoping he becomes quicker and more comfortable with his lift for shooting in a bit more time. Lavender has been the most consistent overall player and I'm hoping that continues. Although Freeman does not play like a freshman most of the time, we must remember he is, and therefore he has a lot of development still to display as the season progresses to go with what he has already shown. It seems to me that Golder's role is still a little uncertain, and I'm hoping that becomes clearer and he can exhibit his positive energy night after night by the time conference play begins. Smits has made tremendous progress already this season, and it would be great for that to continue. After his time off with injury, Sorolla is still getting back his strength, stamina, and scoring. McMillen's role should be determined by conference play, most likely not in the 5 position, and he certainly must improve upon what we have seen so far. Sackey is a freshman and, unlike Freeman, is continually showing it on the court, but he also should get better as he gains experience. Kiser can offer a bit of grittiness and depth in moments when needed. If Bradford comes back, that would be a bonus addition. Finally, I'm hoping Lottich sees the MVC season as a new start and has used the non-conference to have all the kinks in the rotation worked out.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: SanityLost17 on December 06, 2018, 07:27:48 AM
Quote from: valpopal on December 05, 2018, 11:00:07 PM
Being in the holiday spirit already and trying to be "optimistic" after the horrible game against High Point, I like to think the team we see in the MVC season this year will be better from what we have witnessed thus far. Will there be a guy who leads? Maybe, or maybe the team will improve as a whole with any guy being the go-to player in any given game. Fazekas has been streaky in his shooting, but is still a very good 44% from the 3-point line, and I'm hoping his consistency game after game will improve. Evelyn had foot surgery during the off season, and I'm hoping he becomes quicker and more comfortable with his lift for shooting in a bit more time. Lavender has been the most consistent overall player and I'm hoping that continues. Although Freeman does not play like a freshman most of the time, we must remember he is, and therefore he has a lot of development still to display as the season progresses to go with what he has already shown. It seems to me that Golder's role is still a little uncertain, and I'm hoping that becomes clearer and he can exhibit his positive energy night after night by the time conference play begins. Smits has made tremendous progress already this season, and it would be great for that to continue. After his time off with injury, Sorolla is still getting back his strength, stamina, and scoring. McMillen's role should be determined by conference play, most likely not in the 5 position, and he certainly must improve upon what we have seen so far. Sackey is a freshman and, unlike Freeman, is continually showing it on the court, but he also should get better as he gains experience. Kiser can offer a bit of grittiness and depth in moments when needed. If Bradford comes back, that would be a bonus addition. Finally, I'm hoping Lottich sees the MVC season as a new start and has used the non-conference to have all the kinks in the rotation worked out.

Lavender has been pretty much an inconsequential, average at best player,  at every stop along the way before coming to Valpo.  Yet here he is being our most consistent guy.  Positive view would say that just means he has made great strides in the offseason.   Pessimist view would say that our talent is not what we thought it was before the season started.   
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpo64 on December 06, 2018, 11:10:27 AM
I think it is about time to let Freeman start doing his thing, or be the guy if you will.  When he was a junior and senior in HS. he did just that as he gook over the game at crunch time, including scoring and dishing off , rebounding and playing well defensively.  This was especially true in the 2 consecutive IL State Championship games in which he played.  Smits should have much more playing time.  As far as 3-point shooting goes, let the "shooters"(Fazekas, Evelen) keep shooting because the good shooters will eventually break out of their slump.  The shooting thing can't get much worse that it was against High Point.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on December 06, 2018, 02:55:27 PM
I'm sure javon has it in him but we can't rely on a freshman (no matter how good they are) for being the guy. AP wasn't even a "alpha" his freshman season. We are destined for a miserable conference season if we have to rely on a freshman for that kind of production.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on December 06, 2018, 02:56:20 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on December 05, 2018, 09:05:47 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1070450531808755717

You think he's making fun of the name of our opponent from Tuesday night?

What kind of person would do that?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on December 11, 2018, 08:19:41 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1072662563069091842
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on December 17, 2018, 08:38:48 PM
Paul, your next USH episode should be titled, "We now know Valpo Basketball is pedestrian"
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on December 17, 2018, 09:04:24 PM
Is Valpo good? No The verdict is in This one hurt my pride as a fan Ball State is pretty good but they're not THIS good This was excruciating from start to finish
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on December 18, 2018, 01:43:09 PM
 Or maybe the new title should be "The Joe Burton hangover continues".  We have been asking ourselves who is the "go to guy" on this team and it appears that person or player has not accepted the role or no one is capable of assuming that role. I can tell you who that was supposed to be... and that was Joe Burton.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on December 18, 2018, 04:52:12 PM
With all due respect it's been 31 games now since Burton last played. That's a season's worth and ample time to have someone step into that role.

We thought it was Evelyn

We hoped it would be Fazekas

For a brief stretch we were baited into thinking it could be Smits

Maybe it's Freeman or perhaps even Sackey but it's too early to tell.

But somebody should have stepped in to that role by now and the fact that no one has is very concerning.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: tiny707 on December 18, 2018, 05:08:21 PM
Smits is our go to guy. He was in foul trouble. When Smits is out and our shots aren't hitting we need to do the little things to get it going. Loose balls, take charges, block shots, rebound put someone on the floor if they come in the lane. We lost to a NCAA tourney bound team that will shock some people. I don't see this effort happening again this year.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on December 18, 2018, 05:22:54 PM
Ball State isn't even the best team in its conference. They may not even be second best. They're a solid team that should win its share of games but they're not world beaters by any stretch. What happened last night should never have happened.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: justducky on December 18, 2018, 05:41:27 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on December 18, 2018, 04:52:12 PMBut somebody should have stepped in to that role by now and the fact that no one has is very concerning.

Go to players can not be elected or appointed. Somebody has to have the confidence to want the job. Meanwhile Matt seems to be waiting.

Is it too early for me to ask if either Nick Robinson or Eron Gordon want the ball in their hands at crunch time?  ;)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2010 on December 18, 2018, 05:42:06 PM
Did we ever receive an explanation as to what happened to Joe? Would be nice for the sake of closing that chapter in Valpo b-ball history.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on December 18, 2018, 05:49:15 PM
Quote from: VU2010 on December 18, 2018, 05:42:06 PM
Did we ever receive an explanation as to what happened to Joe? Would be nice for the sake of closing that chapter in Valpo b-ball history.

Universities can't publicly speak about students grades. I'm pretty sure there is a law about it.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on December 18, 2018, 05:49:50 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on December 18, 2018, 05:22:54 PM
Ball State isn't even the best team in its conference. They may not even be second best. They're a solid team that should win its share of games but they're not world beaters by any stretch. What happened last night should never have happened.

I'm also tired of every Valpo opponent being deified ... Ball State lost their last game by 12 to MVC bottom-feeder Evansville. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on December 18, 2018, 05:56:51 PM
Quote from: EddieCabot on December 18, 2018, 05:49:50 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on December 18, 2018, 05:22:54 PMBall State isn't even the best team in its conference. They may not even be second best. They're a solid team that should win its share of games but they're not world beaters by any stretch. What happened last night should never have happened.
I'm also tired of every Valpo opponent being deified ... Ball State lost their last game by 12 to MVC bottom-feeder Evansville.



They won't be a bottom feeder much longer. The question is how long it will take for us to climb out of that hole.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VULB#62 on December 18, 2018, 07:24:50 PM
Given our budget, facilities and alumni base, are we finally in over our heads in the MVC?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on December 18, 2018, 08:00:34 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on December 18, 2018, 07:24:50 PMGiven our budget, facilities and alumni base, are we finally in over our heads in the MVC?



It's far too early to admit that. Facilities haven't impacted recruiting yet, our basketball budget is middle of the pack for the MVC the last time I checked. It's mostly a matter of finding the right coach. Alumni base may be an issue but Tulsa was a pretty successful MVC member and they're not much bigger than we are as a school.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusaderjoe on December 18, 2018, 08:32:59 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on December 18, 2018, 07:24:50 PM
Given our budget, facilities and alumni base, are we finally in over our heads in the MVC?

I would think that it would be more appropriate to use the phrase "over our heads" when your team, over a two year period,  is part of a multi bid league and during that time finishes dead last while losing 46 games.  That was a long time ago.  We certainly aren't at that point.

The facility is a dumpster fire and a detriment to the long term health of the program though.  I'll give you that.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on December 18, 2018, 09:10:21 PM
Tulsa is a top 100 academic school with more name recognition and a large endowment
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2010 on December 18, 2018, 10:59:37 PM
Ya it's called ferpa pretty sure but I'm saying joe never said either... right? Just curious.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on December 19, 2018, 10:35:26 AM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on December 18, 2018, 04:52:12 PMWith all due respect it's been 31 games now since Burton last played. That's a season's worth and ample time to have someone step into that role
With all due respect players don't generally "step" into that role, they are recruited for a role.  Joe Burton, an ESPN top 100 player, a kid who dominated at the high school level, was recruited to be the Alex Peters scoring replacement.  Leaving the program when he did completely screwed up the recruiting cycle.  With the exception of Lavender our recruiting for the 18-19 season was already essentially done when Burton unexpectedly left the program and while Freeman and Sackey have every indication of being very good players, freshman were not going to replace Burton. The cycle was interrupted and we are still dealing with the consequences.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: justducky on December 19, 2018, 12:18:52 PM
Quote from: FWalum on December 19, 2018, 10:35:26 AM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on December 18, 2018, 04:52:12 PMWith all due respect it's been 31 games now since Burton last played. That's a season's worth and ample time to have someone step into that role
With all due respect players don't generally "step" into that role, they are recruited for a role.  Joe Burton, an ESPN top 100 player, a kid who dominated at the high school level, was recruited to be the Alex Peters scoring replacement.  Leaving the program when he did completely screwed up the recruiting cycle.  With the exception of Lavender our recruiting for the 18-19 season was already essentially done when Burton unexpectedly left the program and while Freeman and Sackey have every indication of being very good players, freshman were not going to replace Burton. The cycle was interrupted and we are still dealing with the consequences.


Looking at our roster for a "go to" candidate reveals these insights. Player U- No way! Player V-Maybe. Player W-Over my dead body! Player X- Possibly under the right circumstances. Player Y- The team would have to create his shot opening. Player Z - Refer back to U and W! So I agree that our choices are limited with none being ideal.

For 2019-20 the job may still be open.  :o  Freeman was recruited to make plays and shots so he would be my early frontrunner. Gordon might also have that type of confidence. Evelyn ( My player V- maybe) will have to step forward now to grab and hold this honor.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on December 19, 2018, 11:47:53 PM
Quote from: FWalum on December 19, 2018, 10:35:26 AMWith all due respect players don't generally "step" into that role, they are recruited for a role.  Joe Burton, an ESPN top 100 player, a kid who dominated at the high school level, was recruited to be the Alex Peters scoring replacement. 

Whoever Alex Peters is he never played for Valpo. Alec Peters did play for Valpo before being drafted by the Suns.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on December 20, 2018, 07:31:51 AM
Bbtds, we have bigger problems than correcting a long time fan and poster in FWalum when hitting the "x" instead of the "c" when typing Alec. I think he knows it's alec. 

For record the c and x are next to each other on the keyboard. 

Stay on track. 

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2010 on December 20, 2018, 08:12:36 AM
Displaced aggression
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on December 20, 2018, 10:07:30 AM
Quote from: oklahomamick on December 20, 2018, 07:31:51 AM
Bbtds, we have bigger problems than correcting a long time fan and poster in FWalum when hitting the "x" instead of the "c" when typing Alec. I think he knows it's alec. 

For record the c and x are next to each other on the keyboard. 

Stay on track. 


Thanks oklahomamick, I'm a relatively big guy and do have fat fingers.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on December 20, 2018, 02:36:02 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on December 20, 2018, 07:31:51 AM
Bbtds, we have bigger problems than correcting a long time fan and poster in FWalum when hitting the "x" instead of the "c" when typing Alec. I think he knows it's alec. 

For record the c and x are next to each other on the keyboard. 

Stay on track. 

If you were Alec or one of his relatives, who I know read the message board, you would be upset. If people called you oklahomamike even if by accident I know you wouldn't like it. I stand by my correcting people who aren't careful enough to even get our most awesome Valpo player's, except for maybe Bryce (you think he liked it when someone called him Bruce at Vanderbilt), name correct.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on December 20, 2018, 09:05:40 PM
Quote from: bbtds on December 20, 2018, 02:36:02 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on December 20, 2018, 07:31:51 AM
Bbtds, we have bigger problems than correcting a long time fan and poster in FWalum when hitting the "x" instead of the "c" when typing Alec. I think he knows it's alec. 

For record the c and x are next to each other on the keyboard. 

Stay on track. 

If you were Alec or one of his relatives, who I know read the message board, you would be upset. If people called you oklahomamike even if by accident I know you wouldn't like it. I stand by my correcting people who aren't careful enough to even get our most awesome Valpo player's, except for maybe Bryce (you think he liked it when someone called him Bruce at Vanderbilt), name correct.

bbtds please get off your sp kick, go be a grade school teacher if it's that important to you.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on December 20, 2018, 11:25:23 PM
"Humbug! There's no Christmas cheer for Valparaiso as the Crusaders dropped a pair of non-conference games to Ball State and Texas A&M this week. NWI Times beat reporter Paul Oren tries to make sense of two disappointing defeats as the fan base is looking for their gift receipts.

Ball State assistant coach Matt Crenshaw joins the pod to discuss the 2003 Mid-Con title game when the former IUPUI guard knocked down a buzzer-beater to defeat the Crusaders. Crenshaw also talks about being in the Navy for six years and what it was like to play in the NCAA tournament the day the United States went to war."

https://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-coal-in-valpo-s-stocking/article_bc919a3a-04ac-11e9-8c55-3bfae0ee6c9a.html

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1075895394331172865
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on January 03, 2019, 03:01:11 PM
We got so caught up in the anticipation and aftermath of the MVC opener that... I think we all missed the fact that Paul dropped a new episode on us (I certainly missed it) so here it is if you haven't heard it.

https://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-mid-term-grades-valley-preview/article_22b14302-0ed4-11e9-92e4-6b8201df9430.html#tracking-source=home-the-latest
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on January 08, 2019, 11:44:58 PM
Can't wait!

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1082844811156164609?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Elist%3AHeartland_Hoops%3Atwitter_contributors%7Ctwcon%5Etimelinechrome&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.valleyhoopsinsider.com%2Fmissouri-valley-early-returns%2F
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on January 14, 2019, 12:04:38 PM
Hello? HELLO? Are you still there?

I NEED my fix of Union Street Hoops. I'm going through a hard withdrawal.

So much has happened since our last taste and I'm so hungry for more news and insight.

Can you help a fan out? Please?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on January 14, 2019, 12:15:16 PM
You're just going to have to be gritty and persevere through this.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on January 14, 2019, 02:12:02 PM
Quote from: VUBBFan on January 14, 2019, 12:04:38 PM
Hello? HELLO? Are you still there?

I NEED my fix of Union Street Hoops. I'm going through a hard withdrawal.

So much has happened since our last taste and I'm so hungry for more news and insight.

Can you help a fan out? Please?

Not positive, but didn't someone say Paul is down and out with the flu?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on January 14, 2019, 02:41:18 PM
He has been sick. I believe in said on twitter that it will be out today or tomorrow though.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on January 14, 2019, 03:35:05 PM
Quote from: crusader05 on January 14, 2019, 02:41:18 PM
He has been sick. I believe in said on twitter that it will be out today or tomorrow though.

Any substitute teachers available to do a podcast? We all promise to behave for the sub. Really, we do. Really!!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on January 14, 2019, 04:00:12 PM

Quote from: bbtds on January 14, 2019, 03:35:05 PM
Quote from: crusader05 on January 14, 2019, 02:41:18 PMHe has been sick. I believe in said on twitter that it will be out today or tomorrow though.
Any substitute teachers available to do a podcast? We all promise to behave for the sub. Really, we do. Really!!


Ha ha ha, as we slowly reel them in unsusceptibly.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on January 14, 2019, 04:33:54 PM
Would it be better at this point to just wait until after the Loyola game?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VULB#62 on January 14, 2019, 05:02:17 PM
The man has a point.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on January 14, 2019, 08:42:54 PM
https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1085002837195739136?s=21
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on January 14, 2019, 08:50:14 PM

Quote from: VU2014 on January 14, 2019, 08:42:54 PMhttps://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1085002837195739136?s=21


YA!!!!!!  :thewave:
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on January 15, 2019, 01:49:00 PM
Got my fix. Feel a lot better. Good job Paul!

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1085255026073890817
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on January 23, 2019, 05:39:29 PM
Another great podcast from Paul

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1088213986527580162
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 01, 2019, 05:26:28 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1091454529609129985
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 01, 2019, 05:39:32 PM
Paul once again hints at potential a transfer(s) with all the seniors on the roster next season.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on February 02, 2019, 01:39:39 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 01, 2019, 05:39:32 PM
Paul once again hints at potential a transfer(s) with all the seniors on the roster next season.

To be clear, I don't have any inside info on this...it's just the nature of college basketball. Hell, look at the NBA now. People always looking to leave.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2010 on February 02, 2019, 11:30:05 AM
Paul O did such a great job here. Gave credit where credit is due. Defended ML and put the mvc positioning in perspective basically saying we've gotta stay in the top 6. And defended ML on his injuries comments and stating he doesn't owe us anything with injury updates. Good, fair points.

Also, it was SO powerful how he commented on the facilities and game day atmosphere. Listen to the last 10 minutes or so. Well-done. Great beat writer. Keeps things in perspective. Not too high or too low. Doesn't get overly emotional like some of us fans (myself included lol).

Idk that I agree with what he said about not having the kids play at half. I like it - good for the community involvement. But could mix it up with other fun stuff like the Jessie white tumblers. How about the bucket drummers? That's was sweet.

Lebarbara and heckler have to man up and make a commitment to this program.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 02, 2019, 11:44:37 AM
What game did they have a debate at halftime and what was it about? That is almost promotional malpractice...
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on February 02, 2019, 12:21:37 PM
The little kid games are lots of fun. Saying they should stop as hinted above, I do t listen to the podcasts, is rediculous. Those little games put butts in seats, the fans who stay around their seats are usually into it...if anything to improve gameday very easy would be to have the crusaderettes do a routine each media timeout with music that gets the crowd clapping along. Also, when VU goes on a run and the crowd is pumped and the the opponent calls a timeout, the da he's the music going then has to cut it for a goofy a$$ commercial that kills the energy.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 02, 2019, 12:26:13 PM
Quote from: M on February 02, 2019, 12:21:37 PM
The little kid games are lots of fun. Saying they should stop as hinted above, I do t listen to the podcasts, is rediculous. Those little games put butts in seats, the fans who stay around their seats are usually into it...if anything to improve gameday very easy would be to have the crusaderettes do a routine each media timeout with music that gets the crowd clapping along. Also, when VU goes on a run and the crowd is pumped and the the opponent calls a timeout, the da he's the music going then has to cut it for a goofy a$$ commercial that kills the energy.

This!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on February 02, 2019, 12:38:02 PM
Dj not da but you get my point 😂
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 02, 2019, 12:45:12 PM
Quote from: M on February 02, 2019, 12:21:37 PM
The little kid games are lots of fun. Saying they should stop as hinted above, I do t listen to the podcasts, is rediculous. Those little games put butts in seats, the fans who stay around their seats are usually into it...if anything to improve gameday very easy would be to have the crusaderettes do a routine each media timeout with music that gets the crowd clapping along. Also, when VU goes on a run and the crowd is pumped and the the opponent calls a timeout, the da he's the music going then has to cut it for a goofy a$$ commercial that kills the energy.

Remember when the band use to go on the court during an opponents timeout and just blast music by them during their timeout? That would energize the crowd and create for a good laugh. Hint-hint: bring it back! Create an environment where the crowd, student, and band can tastefully get in the opposing teams heads.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on February 02, 2019, 01:19:53 PM
Guys, it is a given that someone will leave with the entire team set to come back outside of Lavender, and adding two high quality transfers.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2010 on February 02, 2019, 04:46:23 PM
I can hear it now: "It's a process." It'll always be a process at this point.

By definition, a process is a series of actions or steps taken in order to achieve a particular end.

What's the particular end? Particular end what is, in Yoda fashion.

That's my question.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on February 02, 2019, 07:45:03 PM
Quote from: VU2010 on February 02, 2019, 04:46:23 PM
I can hear it now: "It's a process." It'll always be a process at this point.

By definition, a process is a series of actions or steps taken in order to achieve a particular end.

What's the particular end? Particular end what is, in Yoda fashion.

That's my question.

Yoda looking at Lottich, "Strong the farce in this one is"



(http://www.cgarena.com/gallery/3d/description/fullimages/YOda_900.jpg)




Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 12, 2019, 10:08:55 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1095407958790418441
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on February 14, 2019, 11:23:45 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 12, 2019, 10:08:55 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1095407958790418441

Finally listened to the pod this morning and found it entertaining, as always.  Paul does a great job of finding the positives about the team ... great listen for anyone needing a pick-me-up after the disappointment of last night.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2010 on February 14, 2019, 04:16:59 PM
I look forward to listening to Paul every week. Love his work. Though I will say the last USH was a bit underwhelming. Depending on what happens with Drake, it'll be interesting to see what he says. The whole progressing poorly thing was a good tag line but then it was a little flat last episode. Looking forward to a good one next time. Hopefully after a well-needed win!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 18, 2019, 08:36:19 PM
Scorched earth on the coaching, players or ... the fans? Or maybe a little of all. Hmmm.

Looking forward to listening.

https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1097652423517179904?s=21
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on February 18, 2019, 08:43:30 PM
I don't usually listen because if you can read this board you pretty much already know everything he is going to say....

I will listen to this to see what/who he is going to scorch. I'm not sure which group it's be...the school (probably not, they pay the guy), the fans (maybe), or something else entirely.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VULB#62 on February 18, 2019, 08:52:41 PM
OMG, the Democrats are burnt toast!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 18, 2019, 08:56:31 PM
Why would you scorch the fans fresh off of 4000+ for Drake a sellout for Loyola and 3000+ for a midweek Indiana State game in the midst of a massive stretch of losing. Those environments have been really solid. I'd say we've been doing our job...
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on February 18, 2019, 09:00:45 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 18, 2019, 08:52:41 PM
OMG, the Democrats are burnt toast!

The only one that is burnt toast is the president. 16 states are challenging him in court on the "emergency powers" to finance his wall/further money for border security.

You brought it up, I didn't. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 18, 2019, 09:04:35 PM
please can we not talk about that stuff on the basketball forum. No politics please.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 18, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 18, 2019, 08:52:41 PMOMG, the Democrats are burnt toast!
Quote from: bbtds on February 18, 2019, 09:00:45 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 18, 2019, 08:52:41 PMOMG, the Democrats are burnt toast!
The only one that is burnt toast is the president. 16 states are challenging him in court on the "emergency powers" to finance his wall/further money for border security. You brought it up, I didn't.



We have a whole forum for this. Both sides suck. Now keep it over in the political thread where it belongs.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: NativeCheesehead on February 18, 2019, 10:07:19 PM
Really enjoy USH and Paul's take on things. But if this is some BS clickbait.......
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 18, 2019, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on February 18, 2019, 10:07:19 PM
Really enjoy USH and Paul's take on things. But if this is some BS clickbait.......

If it's clickbait that's not cool but I guess that's par for the current media era we're in. Regardless I don't see him laying into the coaching staff. That leaves the players, school or fans. I'm ruling out the school and I think he will say the injuries are an "excuse" for this teams play so that leaves the fans. Do we expect too much from a injury riddled team in its second year in the Valley? Maybe but I think the fans angst with the state of the program goes further than wins and losses right now. Or maybe Paul was just trolling us all to get us to listen. Mission accomplished you have peaked our interest but I'd be listening regardless. I think many fans would like the media to start acknowledging the fan-bases discontent with the state of the program. This fan-base is prideful and tired of the poor play.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 18, 2019, 11:05:28 PM
If he lays into the fans unfairly you can bet I'll have a comment on it pretty similar to when I went in on his comments about the schedule.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on February 18, 2019, 11:49:51 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on February 18, 2019, 11:05:28 PM
If he lays into the fans unfairly you can bet I'll have a comment on it pretty similar to when I went in on his comments about the schedule.

Ooooooh! A fan comment. I'm sure PO is shaking in his shoes. Gym shoes. Bought in Wisconsin. At a real shoe store with those sliding width foot measuring devices, someone to lace up the shoe before you try it on and walk around the store. Paul will say "I'll take it." The sales person will say "do you want to wear them out (oooot) or should I put them in the shoe box for you." And Paul will pay for them and walk out of the store thinking "new shoes, I love the smell of new shoes "
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on February 19, 2019, 07:50:23 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on February 18, 2019, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on February 18, 2019, 10:07:19 PM
Really enjoy USH and Paul's take on things. But if this is some BS clickbait.......

If it's clickbait that's not cool but I guess that's par for the current media era we're in. Regardless I don't see him laying into the coaching staff. That leaves the players, school or fans. I'm ruling out the school and I think he will say the injuries are an "excuse" for this teams play so that leaves the fans. Do we expect too much from a injury riddled team in its second year in the Valley? Maybe but I think the fans angst with the state of the program goes further than wins and losses right now. Or maybe Paul was just trolling us all to get us to listen. Mission accomplished you have peaked our interest but I'd be listening regardless. I think many fans would like the media to start acknowledging the fan-bases discontent with the state of the program. This fan-base is prideful and tired of the poor play.

The MVC is now rated #17 by KenPom, one spot ahead of the mighty Horizon League.  I think the "playing in a much better conference" excuse needs to be put on a shelf for now.  That's not the issue.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2010 on February 19, 2019, 08:56:15 AM
Not going to be click bait. Paul's going to deliver. I've got faith.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on February 19, 2019, 10:04:59 AM
Quote from: VU2010 on February 19, 2019, 08:56:15 AM
Not going to be click bait. Paul's going to deliver. I've got faith.

I know one thing. It's inevitable that Paul will disappoint someone because he won't be as scorched earth as someone will want him to be.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: IrishDawg on February 19, 2019, 12:39:27 PM
Quote from: EddieCabot on February 19, 2019, 07:50:23 AM

The MVC is now rated #17 by KenPom, one spot ahead of the mighty Horizon League.  I think the "playing in a much better conference" excuse needs to be put on a shelf for now.  That's not the issue.

True - but the MVC is closer to being in 10th place as a league than 18th if you look at the conference scores themselves.  I do think this year is probably going to be closer to "normal" for the league going forward where they'll be in that higher tier of mid-major leagues, but somewhere in the 10-15 range in terms of a ranking on kenpom.  For the Horizon, IMO, they'll be in that tier just below the MVC's where they'll normally be anywhere from about 18-25 or so.

I think last year the league as a whole overperformed, and this year much of the league is underperforming, so my guess is they'll settle somewhere in the middle of these last couple of years.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on February 19, 2019, 02:35:36 PM
Quote from: IrishDawg on February 19, 2019, 12:39:27 PM
Quote from: EddieCabot on February 19, 2019, 07:50:23 AM

The MVC is now rated #17 by KenPom, one spot ahead of the mighty Horizon League.  I think the "playing in a much better conference" excuse needs to be put on a shelf for now.  That's not the issue.

True - but the MVC is closer to being in 10th place as a league than 18th if you look at the conference scores themselves.  I do think this year is probably going to be closer to "normal" for the league going forward where they'll be in that higher tier of mid-major leagues, but somewhere in the 10-15 range in terms of a ranking on kenpom.  For the Horizon, IMO, they'll be in that tier just below the MVC's where they'll normally be anywhere from about 18-25 or so.

I think last year the league as a whole overperformed, and this year much of the league is underperforming, so my guess is they'll settle somewhere in the middle of these last couple of years.

The difference between 10-15 and 18-25 is it really that big of a deal? Yes, the MVC is slightly better and most people will agree with that but sometimes because we moved from one to the other we make much too big a deal of it all.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2010 on February 19, 2019, 03:48:32 PM
Best part of the cast is when Paul says: "I don't know anything." This was said in response to folks on here who have commented that they think Paul knows something about potential transfers.

Other than that, he scorches fans - like myself - who have expressed our opinions and thoughts about the coaching woes.

Guess those of us with better expectations than 7/8 down the stretch and 4 straight home losses need to gain perspective. Hope it felt good, Paul. Hoping they're right and I'm an idiot who is overly emotional about it things.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on February 19, 2019, 03:56:05 PM
Demanding that all people see things the exact way we do, and have the exact emotional reaction to it is creating a destiny of eternal disappointment for ourselves.



Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: NativeCheesehead on February 19, 2019, 04:10:28 PM
His tone toward the fans was a little disappointing. I understand where he was coming from but it could have been expressed better. Paul's a good journalist and a great writer. I think part of it is most of us, Paul included, have never seen a Valpo MBBHC fired for performance. Or really even doubted his ability. This is uncharted waters for all of us.

There are several beat reporters for other MVC schools who are much harsher on their coaches. Is that good? Are they too harsh? I have no idea.

I would like a little clarification on the comments about fans wanting Bryce back. I remember one comment on here that was shouted down pretty quickly by the rest of the board. Has he really received that many messages to that effect?

The 'scorched earth' was definitely clickbait though.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on February 19, 2019, 04:13:42 PM
I laughed when the Robbie guy said people weren't really expecting much from the team this year.  He needs to go back to the USH when Paul did pre-season predictions with the radio guy ... I came away thinking a Sweet 16 was not only possible, but likely.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on February 19, 2019, 04:15:59 PM
Paul did take some ownership for that. he talked about how they did the preview and were way too hyped on people and maybe creating a false expectation.

Robbie was also the one who was equally dismissive of Lottich being fired as he didn't think it was a disaster. His lack of connection to Valpo probably is a good insight to have as Paul has a tendency to get super hyped up about the program, especially before the season and Robbie was basically like "it hasn't been a disaster, they're probably finishing better than last year and they basically have the same team" 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on February 19, 2019, 05:52:18 PM
I'm only 25 minutes in and have only heard Game recaps and that Mileek doesn't do anything with his minute(s). Here's a stat for ya: Smits averages a turnover every 10.5 minutes while Mileek he's one every 11.4 minutes.
They want to talk block shots...in conference play Kizer has 1 (played about 2.5 times more minutes), Lavender has 1 (played nearly 4x as many minutes) and Fazekas has 1(has 30 more minutes despite being out for quite a few games). So stuff the stats up your @$$ as to why Mileek doesn't play more.

Can't wait to hear the rest....
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on February 19, 2019, 06:44:07 PM
Quote from: M on February 19, 2019, 05:52:18 PM
I'm only 25 minutes in and have only heard Game recaps and that Mileek doesn't do anything with his minute(s). Here's a stat for ya: Smits averages a turnover every 10.5 minutes while Mileek he's one every 11.4 minutes.
They want to talk block shots...in conference play Kizer has 1 (played about 2.5 times more minutes), Lavender has 1 (played nearly 4x as many minutes) and Fazekas has 1(has 30 more minutes despite being out for quite a few games). So stuff the stats up your @$$ as to why Mileek doesn't play more.

Can't wait to hear the rest....

I appreciate having a guest on your Podcast Paul, it's good to hear back-n-forth.  I'd welcome Robbie as a weekly co-host if that is feasible.  I think many of us understand this is unpaid so it's even more appreciated knowing the time you dedicate. 

Keep up the good work, though boy you were guilty of click bait on "scorched earth"!!! haha  You even admit this as the podcast progresses.  Ever considered adjunct professor of Marketing?!?!?  I'd be interested to know what % increase (downloads) you saw with this episode based on "scorched earth" tweet?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 19, 2019, 07:11:29 PM
A fair and levelheaded assessment of our current situation and a strong and well-put-together defense of Lottich that is sensible and has really helped calm me down. Good job Paul and Robbie! I feel better now, Go Valpo
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: GoldenCrusader87 on February 19, 2019, 07:43:42 PM
At the end of the day, this is what fandom is all about - no matter what, we'd be barking about something. If undefeated, we'd be complaining about minutes or what have you. Ya know? Just what makes it fun for old folks like us and/or those of us (like me) who couldn't make the high school team lol.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on February 19, 2019, 09:26:05 PM
Quote from: bbtds on February 19, 2019, 10:04:59 AMI know one thing. It's inevitable that Paul will disappoint someone because he won't be as scorched earth as someone will want him to be.

Quote from: M on February 19, 2019, 05:52:18 PM
I'm only 25 minutes in and have only heard Game recaps and that Mileek doesn't do anything with his minute(s). Here's a stat for ya: Smits averages a turnover every 10.5 minutes while Mileek he's one every 11.4 minutes.
They want to talk block shots...in conference play Kizer has 1 (played about 2.5 times more minutes), Lavender has 1 (played nearly 4x as many minutes) and Fazekas has 1(has 30 more minutes despite being out for quite a few games). So stuff the stats up your @$$ as to why Mileek doesn't play more.

Can't wait to hear the rest....





Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on February 19, 2019, 09:40:02 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on February 19, 2019, 06:44:07 PM
Quote from: M on February 19, 2019, 05:52:18 PM
I'm only 25 minutes in and have only heard Game recaps and that Mileek doesn't do anything with his minute(s). Here's a stat for ya: Smits averages a turnover every 10.5 minutes while Mileek he's one every 11.4 minutes.
They want to talk block shots...in conference play Kizer has 1 (played about 2.5 times more minutes), Lavender has 1 (played nearly 4x as many minutes) and Fazekas has 1(has 30 more minutes despite being out for quite a few games). So stuff the stats up your @$$ as to why Mileek doesn't play more.

Can't wait to hear the rest....

I appreciate having a guest on your Podcast Paul, it's good to hear back-n-forth.  I'd welcome Robbie as a weekly co-host if that is feasible.  I think many of us understand this is unpaid so it's even more appreciated knowing the time you dedicate. 

Keep up the good work, though boy you were guilty of click bait on "scorched earth"!!! haha  You even admit this as the podcast progresses.  Ever considered adjunct professor of Marketing?!?!?  I'd be interested to know what % increase (downloads) you saw with this episode based on "scorched earth" tweet?

I have a friend who actually took Paul's social media class lol. Not sure what the name of the course is.

I thought it was a pretty good episode. enjoyed him and Robbie going back and forth. I think Paul is sometimes at his best when he has someone else to bounce ideas and dialogue off of.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on February 19, 2019, 09:44:42 PM
My original intent when I tweeted out "scorched earth" was to do the episode alone and have a passionate defense of Lottich. The target of that was not going to be this message board, but really the recent talk I've heard away from the board about wanting Bryce to get fired and then have him replace Lottich.

We had a very interesting media availability with Lottich yesterday (which Robbie and I never really got around to discussing). Lottich walked us through some plays from the Drake game as he was watching film when we went in his office. He showed us good plays and he showed us bad plays. It was fascinating. Never did he throw anyone under the bus. I came away from the experience with a new appreciation for what coaches go through.

I read some of the comments this morning and knew that if I vehemently defended Lottich, it would come off as dismissive of passionate fans, and who the hell am I to do that? So I called Robbie and I knew we'd have a more thoughtful discussion that would be more centered and less fire and brimstone.

I appreciate Robbie's outside-in way of looking at the program, so I knew we'd have a good discussion.

Apologies if I clickbaited you. That wasn't the intent. Much thanks to all of you who listen to this passion project of mine. I'm looking forward to a fun final few weeks of the season.


Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: GoldenCrusader87 on February 20, 2019, 06:19:10 AM
Paul, I get where you're coming from. But, other than Robbie's initial comment where he was a tiny bit critical of ML, it wasn't hardly an opportunity for two parties with different perspectives to talk about what a part of the fan base is feeling right now. Honestly, it was as one-sided as a Saturday Night Live take on a political issue. 95% one direction. It would've made for a much different feel if you at least played devil's advocate and entertained the thought of where many folks are coming from in regards to comments about Bryce coming back OR perceived concerns regarding ML's leadership of this team. Instead, it was a pure defense of his leadership. Which is fine. But, it didn't do much for those of us in fandom who don't get the opportunity to do a sit down with the coach. Instead, you flirted an idea out there at the end - though - that maybe this time next week on USH you could hypothetically be skeptical of his leadership and the trajectory of this team. So, 2 games would change everything you said? Doubtful. Wasn't sure why you threw that out in the end. I respect clickbait - I mean it works for a reason. At least upon clicking on your link I wasn't told that I won an iPad or had to spin a wheel. So, I'm thankful for that.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on February 20, 2019, 06:30:03 AM
I did like Robbie being on there, except his mic was much louder or something -hopefully that's an easy fix.

I think my favorite part from I heard was the back and forth about whether or not Lottich was making excuses. Least favorite part was mentioned a few posts ago, lol.

Thanks for giving us more to talk about! Go Valpo!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: SanityLost17 on February 20, 2019, 10:35:16 AM
Paul obviously thinks Lottich has a future and knowing Paul gets a more behind the scenes look at coaches and players than we do maybe we should trust him for now.

2 overtime games, a 7 minute meltdown, and an injury ridden home game against Drake we were still competitive in.   That is how close we are to talking about winning a conference title.   We are obviously not there yet or we would have won a few of those games, but we are close!  Talent in this league pretty equal so yes, some of it comes down to coaching.   Devries has obviously out coached Lottich but is he coaching so badly that we need to fire him?  NO. 

If we get most everyone back next year and the offense still struggles and he doesn't improve on some of the little things about his coaching and the injuries still pile up (maybe overdoing it in practice?) perhaps then we can re-evaluate.  But for now the Jury is still out and screaming at the top of our lungs that "Our coach sucks" will do more damage to the program than you could possibly imagine.   After all, recruits and their parents love hearing that rhetoric on twitter when a school offers them....   

     
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: GoldenCrusader87 on February 20, 2019, 11:30:26 AM
Sanity, I sure hope nobody feels that strongly or would take to social media to yell out that the coach sucks. If so, that's unfortunate. No doubt he wants to win and be successful. No doubt the players - overall - want to win and be successful. But, there's something that's gotta change for that to happen on a routine basis. I felt better about things when thinking of the MVC being way better than the HL. But the comment someone made about the ratings and it only barely slighting the HL is sad to hear. Idk what the problems are stemming from... idk ... even a win here or there won't solve them though. Part of me would feel better if we really could pinpoint what the root of the issue is ... but idk what that may be?...
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on February 20, 2019, 12:04:33 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on February 19, 2019, 09:44:42 PM
My original intent when I tweeted out "scorched earth" was to do the episode alone and have a passionate defense of Lottich. The target of that was not going to be this message board, but really the recent talk I've heard away from the board about wanting Bryce to get fired and then have him replace Lottich.

We had a very interesting media availability with Lottich yesterday (which Robbie and I never really got around to discussing). Lottich walked us through some plays from the Drake game as he was watching film when we went in his office. He showed us good plays and he showed us bad plays. It was fascinating. Never did he throw anyone under the bus. I came away from the experience with a new appreciation for what coaches go through.

I read some of the comments this morning and knew that if I vehemently defended Lottich, it would come off as dismissive of passionate fans, and who the hell am I to do that? So I called Robbie and I knew we'd have a more thoughtful discussion that would be more centered and less fire and brimstone.

I appreciate Robbie's outside-in way of looking at the program, so I knew we'd have a good discussion.

Apologies if I clickbaited you. That wasn't the intent. Much thanks to all of you who listen to this passion project of mine. I'm looking forward to a fun final few weeks of the season.

That's interesting, but not surprising that Matt would impress when talking about the technical aspects of the game. He is a Stanford grad, after all, with years of playing experience at every level and now several years of coaching experience, as well. He's probably the smartest guy in a lot of rooms.

My specific concern is why after 30 games into the season is there such inconsistency in player energy and effort from 1 game to the next, from 1 half to the next half, from the opening 10 minutes vs. the rest of the game, from 1 player to the next, etc. How did we recently blow out ILS and Muller said they were never ready to match our energy and intensity, then turn around and sleepwalk through parts of the next 2 or 3 games? How did we go from committing to a new hard nosed, "gritty" playing style before the PNW game, and using that "take no prisoners" style to get off to a great start in conference, then suddenly developing a sort of empty souled, zombie look? Why do we constantly have to make line up changes to motivate players to play harder?  How after all this time does the absence of a former walk-in become a primary reason we got off to a "slow start?" 

How frustrating it must be to lead a team whose energy and effort levels ebb and flow randomly like someone with severe biplolor disorder.  I don't know if this is a Matt problem or a player problem, but I do know that it has become so prevalent, so dysfunctional, that it is now part of the team's identity.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: justducky on February 20, 2019, 12:54:48 PM
I've now accepted that the Fazekas we've seen is the Fazekas we've got.   :'(

This time last year Lottich and the team were competitively battling just for pride, respectability and love of the game.  If we don't see that level of effort going forward then everything and everyone should be open to question.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusaderboy on February 20, 2019, 01:37:52 PM
This is what stood out to me: "You don't fire a coach after three years unless it's a complete disaster. And this is not a complete disaster. They're trending upward."

Wow. Potential back-to-back last-place finishes, not a complete disaster apparently.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: SanityLost17 on February 20, 2019, 01:58:21 PM
Quote from: crusaderboy on February 20, 2019, 01:37:52 PM
This is what stood out to me: "You don't fire a coach after three years unless it's a complete disaster. And this is not a complete disaster. They're trending upward."

Wow. Potential back-to-back last-place finishes, not a complete disaster apparently.

I can make current emotional decisions based on "potential" futures as well.  In fact, I don't think I am going to leave the house today, somebody "potentially" could hit me with their car.   
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on February 20, 2019, 01:59:30 PM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on February 20, 2019, 01:58:21 PM
Quote from: crusaderboy on February 20, 2019, 01:37:52 PM
This is what stood out to me: "You don't fire a coach after three years unless it's a complete disaster. And this is not a complete disaster. They're trending upward."

Wow. Potential back-to-back last-place finishes, not a complete disaster apparently.

I can make current emotional decisions based on "potential" futures as well.  In fact, I don't think I am going to leave the house today, somebody "potentially" could hit me with their car.

And boom goes the dynamite!  Well said haha
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on February 20, 2019, 03:15:04 PM
Lottich doesn't deserve to get fired (nor will he).  Lottich does deserve much criticism.  Next year if Valpo doesn't finish top 3 or make it to the final, Lottich should be fired. 

We have the talent.....must be the coach. 



Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: a3uge on February 20, 2019, 05:26:22 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 20, 2019, 03:15:04 PM
Lottich doesn't deserve to get fired (nor will he).  Lottich does deserve much criticism.  Next year if Valpo doesn't finish top 3 or make it to the final, Lottich should be fired. 

We have the talent.....must be the coach.
I keep seeing posts that say we have a ton of talent. In reality, this team doesn't have much top-end talent. Smits is a starter on most teams and Javon will be great one day, but there's not a player of the year contender, and possibly even 1st team MVC player on the roster for the next few years. Beyond some nice role players, the talent drops off considerably, and that has been evident with a few injuries.

They're definitely in a better place than last year, and should be in the top half of the league next year, but they still lack a go-to player (like a Peters or Broekhoff) to seriously contend for a championship. I'm not sure Javon is that player, but maybe one of the new guys coming in next year will help Valpo take the next step.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on February 20, 2019, 09:13:35 PM
I wouldn't say we are an untalented team coached by a genius......
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: JD24 on February 20, 2019, 09:28:28 PM
Quote from: a3uge on February 20, 2019, 05:26:22 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 20, 2019, 03:15:04 PMLottich doesn't deserve to get fired (nor will he).  Lottich does deserve much criticism.  Next year if Valpo doesn't finish top 3 or make it to the final, Lottich should be fired. We have the talent.....must be the coach.
I keep seeing posts that say we have a ton of talent. In reality, this team doesn't have much top-end talent. Smits is a starter on most teams and Javon will be great one day, but there's not a player of the year contender, and possibly even 1st team MVC player on the roster for the next few years. Beyond some nice role players, the talent drops off considerably, and that has been evident with a few injuries. They're definitely in a better place than last year, and should be in the top half of the league next year, but they still lack a go-to player (like a Peters or Broekhoff) to seriously contend for a championship. I'm not sure Javon is that player, but maybe one of the new guys coming in next year will help Valpo take the next step.
This is probably the best post I've seen on the talent level of the team. I find that some posters overvalue some of the guys on the roster.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on February 20, 2019, 09:40:36 PM
Quote from: JD24 on February 20, 2019, 09:28:28 PM
Quote from: a3uge on February 20, 2019, 05:26:22 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 20, 2019, 03:15:04 PMLottich doesn't deserve to get fired (nor will he).  Lottich does deserve much criticism.  Next year if Valpo doesn't finish top 3 or make it to the final, Lottich should be fired. We have the talent.....must be the coach.
I keep seeing posts that say we have a ton of talent. In reality, this team doesn't have much top-end talent. Smits is a starter on most teams and Javon will be great one day, but there's not a player of the year contender, and possibly even 1st team MVC player on the roster for the next few years. Beyond some nice role players, the talent drops off considerably, and that has been evident with a few injuries. They're definitely in a better place than last year, and should be in the top half of the league next year, but they still lack a go-to player (like a Peters or Broekhoff) to seriously contend for a championship. I'm not sure Javon is that player, but maybe one of the new guys coming in next year will help Valpo take the next step.
This is probably the best post I've seen on the talent level of the team. I find that some posters overvalue some of the guys on the roster.

Hard to argue against this, maybe this more than most explains why (without strong defense) we are so very vulnerable to losing streaks.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on February 20, 2019, 09:44:53 PM
I would say Golder, Smits and Freeman would start for all other MVC schools (exception Smits at Loyola and Southern).  Freeman in time will be MVC player of the year candidate.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: GoldenCrusader87 on February 20, 2019, 10:02:22 PM
Happy for the win. Truly. As concerned as I was before this gutted out win, I'm equally concerned. Though I think others have certainly said it well. Will be interesting to see how we perform down the stretch. How you end a season - esp with this many potential returning starters/players - can result in a motivated off season and kick off a good 19-20 season. As for USH, I guess I'll listen again but don't really care to voluntarily spend my time listening to Paul going "scorched Earth" on fans upset after losing 7/8 ... or now 7/9.

Then again, perhaps I'm like the fish ... tempted by the bobber ... only to be hooked once again into the master's plan...
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 21, 2019, 12:13:45 AM
He really wasn't that bad. I felt like I was heard as a fan and my concerns were addressed and also given fair expression. They were fair and levelheaded in their analysis in my opinion. I came into that episode concerned and came away satisfied.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusaderboy on February 21, 2019, 11:45:35 AM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on February 20, 2019, 01:58:21 PM
Quote from: crusaderboy on February 20, 2019, 01:37:52 PM
This is what stood out to me: "You don't fire a coach after three years unless it's a complete disaster. And this is not a complete disaster. They're trending upward."

Wow. Potential back-to-back last-place finishes, not a complete disaster apparently.

I can make current emotional decisions based on "potential" futures as well.  In fact, I don't think I am going to leave the house today, somebody "potentially" could hit me with their car.   

Who is making an emotional decision? Take all emotion out of it, if you can. Is this team trending upward? Do you see player development?

You are either growing or dying in this world. What do you see when you look on the court? It's not hard to see with your own eyes. What's hard is then admitting to yourself the team you love might not be working out.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: GoldenCrusader87 on February 21, 2019, 12:09:17 PM
Idk how you could feel concerned going into the podcast, listen to it, and then leave feeling satisfied. Again, that was as fair and balanced as mainstream news stations. As balanced as listening to a debate betweeen Bernie Sanders and AOC on a political topic. Gotta bring in a very very different POV. Like a Ted Cruz haha. NOT being political here. Just giving an illustration.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on February 21, 2019, 01:14:34 PM
Quote from: wh on February 20, 2019, 12:04:33 PM
My specific concern is why after 30 games into the season is there such inconsistency in player energy and effort from 1 game to the next, from 1 half to the next half, from the opening 10 minutes vs. the rest of the game, from 1 player to the next, etc. How did we recently blow out ILS and Muller said they were never ready to match our energy and intensity, then turn around and sleepwalk through parts of the next 2 or 3 games? How did we go from committing to a new hard nosed, "gritty" playing style before the PNW game, and using that "take no prisoners" style to get off to a great start in conference, then suddenly developing a sort of empty souled, zombie look? Why do we constantly have to make line up changes to motivate players to play harder?  How after all this time does the absence of a former walk-in become a primary reason we got off to a "slow start?" 

How frustrating it must be to lead a team whose energy and effort levels ebb and flow randomly like someone with severe biplolor disorder.  I don't know if this is a Matt problem or a player problem, but I do know that it has become so prevalent, so dysfunctional, that it is now part of the team's identity.

I did not get to see last night's game, nor was I able to listen to much of it. That said, maybe someone can respond to s couple of questions.

1. I noticed that once again Matt shook up the starting line-up with Jay starting and Derrik coming off the bench. Has anyone offered up a reason for it? Was it yet another attempt to send a message to Derrik that he needs to play hard at both ends of the court? Or, not take any plays off? Etc.?

2. Collectively, they had pretty good offensive stats. Any thoughts about whether Matt may stay with this, or should stay with it?

3. Any thoughts about the team's collective effort relative to other recent games?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: justducky on February 21, 2019, 01:22:07 PM
Quote from: crusaderboy on February 21, 2019, 11:45:35 AMIs this team trending upward?
No

Quote from: crusaderboy on February 21, 2019, 11:45:35 AMDo you see player development?
Freeman and Sackey Yes- major -but with large game to game variations
Sorolla and Smits      Yes- slowly getting better-- painfully slow
Kiser                       Yes - small improvements
Golder and McMillan  Not nearly enough------ I had fooled myself into believing Mileek could make significant contributions. Markus also seems to have some limits to his upside.
Evelyn.                    No
Fazekas.                  Uncertain- I'll give him an injury pass with the hope he can return to early January form.

Quote from: crusaderboy on February 21, 2019, 11:45:35 AMWhat's hard is then admitting to yourself the team you love might not be working out.

You could be right but the injuries have really muddied the water.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on February 21, 2019, 02:34:29 PM
I kind've wonder if Smits was under the weather...he only logged 16 minutes.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on February 21, 2019, 02:57:22 PM
Quote from: wh on February 21, 2019, 01:14:34 PM
Quote from: wh on February 20, 2019, 12:04:33 PM
My specific concern is why after 30 games into the season is there such inconsistency in player energy and effort from 1 game to the next, from 1 half to the next half, from the opening 10 minutes vs. the rest of the game, from 1 player to the next, etc. How did we recently blow out ILS and Muller said they were never ready to match our energy and intensity, then turn around and sleepwalk through parts of the next 2 or 3 games? How did we go from committing to a new hard nosed, "gritty" playing style before the PNW game, and using that "take no prisoners" style to get off to a great start in conference, then suddenly developing a sort of empty souled, zombie look? Why do we constantly have to make line up changes to motivate players to play harder?  How after all this time does the absence of a former walk-in become a primary reason we got off to a "slow start?" 

How frustrating it must be to lead a team whose energy and effort levels ebb and flow randomly like someone with severe biplolor disorder.  I don't know if this is a Matt problem or a player problem, but I do know that it has become so prevalent, so dysfunctional, that it is now part of the team's identity.

I did not get to see last night's game, nor was I able to listen to much of it. That said, maybe someone can respond to s couple of questions.

1. I noticed that once again Matt shook up the starting line-up with Jay starting and Derrik coming off the bench. Has anyone offered up a reason for it? Was it yet another attempt to send a message to Derrik that he needs to play hard at both ends of the court? Or, not take any plays off? Etc.?

2. Collectively, they had pretty good offensive stats. Any thoughts about whether Matt may stay with this, or should stay with it?

3. Any thoughts about the team's collective effort relative to other recent games?


In the [resser Matt said thathe told the team that nobody was an automatic starter and that they had to prove it in practice.  I guess it was a message of sorts but they both played well.  Deion was really good as he was the last time we played SIU.  My guess is he will stay with this starting lineup.  As for collective effort, it was there on both ends of the floor. Clearly the score indicates that there was good defense on both ends and for once, we played better than they did in the second half which shows an adjustment at half.  Pippen was a beast in the first half,(six points 3 blocks) but then only had one point and 5 turnovers in the second.

I sensed a good vibe from Deion and Javon in the presser as they perhaps realized that they can actually win games and not just get close only to lose.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: SanityLost17 on February 21, 2019, 04:32:39 PM
Quote from: justducky on February 21, 2019, 01:22:07 PM
Quote from: crusaderboy on February 21, 2019, 11:45:35 AMIs this team trending upward?
No

Quote from: crusaderboy on February 21, 2019, 11:45:35 AMDo you see player development?
Freeman and Sackey Yes- major -but with large game to game variations
Sorolla and Smits      Yes- slowly getting better-- painfully slow
Kiser                       Yes - small improvements
Golder and McMillan  Not nearly enough------ I had fooled myself into believing Mileek could make significant contributions. Markus also seems to have some limits to his upside.
Evelyn.                    No
Fazekas.                  Uncertain- I'll give him an injury pass with the hope he can return to early January form.

Quote from: crusaderboy on February 21, 2019, 11:45:35 AMWhat's hard is then admitting to yourself the team you love might not be working out.

You could be right but the injuries have really muddied the water.

Agree on all counts of player development.   

For anybody who thinks the injuries haven't gotten to us.   Look at Duke last night without Zion.   Look at how Loyola was playing with a healthy Williamson compared to games without him.  Even Drake took a few games to snap out of it without Norton.   

The difference is all those teams have 1 major injury.  For us the hits just kept coming.   No way Golder has been at or near 65% since his injury.  Smits has games he looks really tight (back).  It wasn't just Fazekus, it was the whole of the injuries that really got us.   
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: GoldenCrusader87 on February 21, 2019, 05:51:19 PM
I was waiting for someone to try and compare the impact of injuries at Valpo to the injury of Zion last night. I knew it would come up. Sure, enough - it did.

I 100% agree. The loss of Zion - a mediocre mid major player - is a completely analogous comparison to the injuries we've had this year. So thankful it was finally brought up! I finally feel so much better about the season and realize without the injuries we'd likely be a top seed in the tournament, playing on national tv for game day, and drawing the attendance of celebrities to our games. Tickets would be starting at $2,500 for a battle against the Salukis!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on February 21, 2019, 06:00:14 PM
it's not like it was Zion and a team of scrubs. They are all caliber players that should be able to play with UNC even without the best player in the NCAA. His point was, when you lose a pivotal point to your offense, you can struggle and we lost several and we did.
We still lost games we should have one and yes this is life and things aren't fair and you need to adjust my people can acknowledge the illness and that they created a weak spot for a team that wasn't ready to take these types of punches.

Look i'm sorry but can we stop treating every person who doesn't got all "burn it down and salt the earth" as idiots making excuses. You can disagree without immediately going to the dramatic "oh my god look at you and your ridiculous excuses, I must be so wrong for having expectations for this team" framing.


Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on February 21, 2019, 07:03:17 PM
Quote from: M on February 21, 2019, 02:34:29 PM
I kind've wonder if Smits was under the weather...he only logged 16 minutes.

He sucks hard at defense, might have been time to start a player that was defensive minded.  I'm of the belief that ramming the ball down to Smits for most of MVC has been problematic to offensive flow and early regular TO.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: PlumStreetBum on February 21, 2019, 07:05:12 PM
Quote from: GoldenCrusader87 on February 21, 2019, 05:51:19 PM
I was waiting for someone to try and compare the impact of injuries at Valpo to the injury of Zion last night. I knew it would come up. Sure, enough - it did.

I 100% agree. The loss of Zion - a mediocre mid major player - is a completely analogous comparison to the injuries we've had this year. So thankful it was finally brought up! I finally feel so much better about the season and realize without the injuries we'd likely be a top seed in the tournament, playing on national tv for game day, and drawing the attendance of celebrities to our games. Tickets would be starting at $2,500 for a battle against the Salukis!

You remind me of my son when he's tired and hungry.

He's 7.

Make a real argument about why the analogy is flawed, or go be sarcastic somewhere else. This is a remarkably civil board on an internet full of cr@p. Please don't be that guy.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on February 21, 2019, 07:18:04 PM
Quote from: PlumStreetBum on February 21, 2019, 07:05:12 PM
Quote from: GoldenCrusader87 on February 21, 2019, 05:51:19 PM
I was waiting for someone to try and compare the impact of injuries at Valpo to the injury of Zion last night. I knew it would come up. Sure, enough - it did.

I 100% agree. The loss of Zion - a mediocre mid major player - is a completely analogous comparison to the injuries we've had this year. So thankful it was finally brought up! I finally feel so much better about the season and realize without the injuries we'd likely be a top seed in the tournament, playing on national tv for game day, and drawing the attendance of celebrities to our games. Tickets would be starting at $2,500 for a battle against the Salukis!

You remind me of my son when he's tired and hungry.

He's 7.

Make a real argument about why the analogy is flawed, or go be sarcastic somewhere else. This is a remarkably civil board on an internet full of cr@p. Please don't be that guy.

Zion 21.6 ppg (25% of team points)
Duke 85.9 ppg

Fazekas 13.3 ppg (almost 20%)
Valpo 68.4 ppg

You really cannot make an argument on anything other than % of contributions.  Who gives a crap if Zion is the next MJ, it really only matters what % of team offense he was at time of the injury.  Take out Zion and insert Player A....

Fact is we are likely better than .500 team with all guys healthy and continuous continuity...end of story.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusaderboy on February 22, 2019, 08:02:58 AM
Quote from: justducky on February 21, 2019, 01:22:07 PM
Quote from: crusaderboy on February 21, 2019, 11:45:35 AMIs this team trending upward?
No

Quote from: crusaderboy on February 21, 2019, 11:45:35 AMDo you see player development?
Freeman and Sackey Yes- major -but with large game to game variations
Sorolla and Smits      Yes- slowly getting better-- painfully slow
Kiser                       Yes - small improvements
Golder and McMillan  Not nearly enough------ I had fooled myself into believing Mileek could make significant contributions. Markus also seems to have some limits to his upside.
Evelyn.                    No
Fazekas.                  Uncertain- I'll give him an injury pass with the hope he can return to early January form.

Quote from: crusaderboy on February 21, 2019, 11:45:35 AMWhat's hard is then admitting to yourself the team you love might not be working out.


You could be right but the injuries have really muddied the water.


Freeman and Sackey are freshman. We will get a better feel for true development next season. Does Sackey learn to raise his release point in the lane to decrease the likelihood of a blocked shot? Does he work on free throws and look for contact? Does Freeman work on an outside shot and to tighten his handle?
Sorolla Smits -- no and hell no.
Kiser -- it doesn't matter
Mileek -- nope.
evelyn and fazekas -- no.

The only guy I really feel bad for is Golder. It is obvious he worked really hard to develop that fallaway jumper that had become such a weapon for him.

I don't know. I just expect more.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on February 22, 2019, 08:13:36 AM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on February 21, 2019, 07:18:04 PM
Quote from: PlumStreetBum on February 21, 2019, 07:05:12 PM
Quote from: GoldenCrusader87 on February 21, 2019, 05:51:19 PM
I was waiting for someone to try and compare the impact of injuries at Valpo to the injury of Zion last night. I knew it would come up. Sure, enough - it did.

I 100% agree. The loss of Zion - a mediocre mid major player - is a completely analogous comparison to the injuries we've had this year. So thankful it was finally brought up! I finally feel so much better about the season and realize without the injuries we'd likely be a top seed in the tournament, playing on national tv for game day, and drawing the attendance of celebrities to our games. Tickets would be starting at $2,500 for a battle against the Salukis!

You remind me of my son when he's tired and hungry.

He's 7.

Make a real argument about why the analogy is flawed, or go be sarcastic somewhere else. This is a remarkably civil board on an internet full of cr@p. Please don't be that guy.

Zion 21.6 ppg (25% of team points)
Duke 85.9 ppg

Fazekas 13.3 ppg (almost 20%)
Valpo 68.4 ppg

You really cannot make an argument on anything other than % of contributions.  Who gives a crap if Zion is the next MJ, it really only matters what % of team offense he was at time of the injury.  Take out Zion and insert Player A....

Fact is we are likely better than .500 team with all guys healthy and continuous continuity...end of story.

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Likely?  The understatement of quite some time.  We   ARE at .500 overall and were 20 points away from four other wins in the Valley. That would put us in first place.  We are close...
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: JD24 on February 22, 2019, 11:14:24 AM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on February 21, 2019, 07:18:04 PM
Quote from: PlumStreetBum on February 21, 2019, 07:05:12 PM
Quote from: GoldenCrusader87 on February 21, 2019, 05:51:19 PMI was waiting for someone to try and compare the impact of injuries at Valpo to the injury of Zion last night. I knew it would come up. Sure, enough - it did. I 100% agree. The loss of Zion - a mediocre mid major player - is a completely analogous comparison to the injuries we've had this year. So thankful it was finally brought up! I finally feel so much better about the season and realize without the injuries we'd likely be a top seed in the tournament, playing on national tv for game day, and drawing the attendance of celebrities to our games. Tickets would be starting at $2,500 for a battle against the Salukis!
You remind me of my son when he's tired and hungry. He's 7. Make a real argument about why the analogy is flawed, or go be sarcastic somewhere else. This is a remarkably civil board on an internet full of cr@p. Please don't be that guy.
Zion 21.6 ppg (25% of team points) Duke 85.9 ppg Fazekas 13.3 ppg (almost 20%) Valpo 68.4 ppg You really cannot make an argument on anything other than % of contributions.  Who gives a crap if Zion is the next MJ, it really only matters what % of team offense he was at time of the injury.  Take out Zion and insert Player A.... Fact is we are likely better than .500 team with all guys healthy and continuous continuity...end of story.
The issues with Zion Williamson and Valpo's injury situation are only somewhat related. The Duke situation was one of in game....very early in a game....losing one of your two best players. That can be very rattling to a team and I thought it showed considering the opponent. Valpo's injury issues have been more of a drip drip drip situation in which the roster has never seemed healthy.

The roster isn't great and I don't think it has a lot of depth which injuries eat into.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: JD24 on February 22, 2019, 11:19:52 AM
Quote from: crusaderboy on February 22, 2019, 08:02:58 AMYou could be right but the injuries have really muddied the water.
Freeman and Sackey are freshman. We will get a better feel for true development next season. Does Sackey learn to raise his release point in the lane to decrease the likelihood of a blocked shot? Does he work on free throws and look for contact? Does Freeman work on an outside shot and to tighten his handle? Sorolla Smits -- no and hell no. Kiser -- it doesn't matter Mileek -- nope. evelyn and fazekas -- no. The only guy I really feel bad for is Golder. It is obvious he worked really hard to develop that fallaway jumper that had become such a weapon for him. I don't know. I just expect more.
Smits is a better player this year than his first two years. He may not be what some fans envision for him because of his size but he's clearly a better player.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on February 25, 2019, 02:26:32 PM
Quote from: a3uge on February 20, 2019, 05:26:22 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 20, 2019, 03:15:04 PM
Lottich doesn't deserve to get fired (nor will he).  Lottich does deserve much criticism.  Next year if Valpo doesn't finish top 3 or make it to the final, Lottich should be fired. 

We have the talent.....must be the coach.
I keep seeing posts that say we have a ton of talent. In reality, this team doesn't have much top-end talent. Smits is a starter on most teams and Javon will be great one day, but there's not a player of the year contender, and possibly even 1st team MVC player on the roster for the next few years. Beyond some nice role players, the talent drops off considerably, and that has been evident with a few injuries.

They're definitely in a better place than last year, and should be in the top half of the league next year, but they still lack a go-to player (like a Peters or Broekhoff) to seriously contend for a championship. I'm not sure Javon is that player, but maybe one of the new guys coming in next year will help Valpo take the next step.
Quote from: a3uge on February 24, 2019, 03:44:46 PM
UNI is still scoring less per game than Valpo and have a worse FG%. Both teams offenses looked putrid last night. UNI had some late 3s that was the difference in the game. I wouldn't look to that team as a model for a decent offense.

Valpo's offense is certainly frustrating. They have the most turnovers in the league, and can't (and usually don't) shoot the 3. The bigs aren't skilled enough passers to kick it out to the corners (if they actually catch the ball) and the guards can't penetrate without turning it over. Freeman can finish every once in awhile, but he hasn't shown the ability to pass it out to an open shooter.

Plenty of blame to go around here, and I still contend the problem has more to do with player skill than an offensive scheme. You can't scheme Kiser into a shooter, Golder into a ball handler, and Bakari into a finisher. I don't think coach K could make these guys look competent on offense.
Just about the only intelligent posts I have seen on the board recently.  Getting hard to read all of this asinine stuff from posters who have no idea what coaching at this level is like.  Injuries, lineup changes and players leaving the program all have long term effects that coaches can't fix just because they want to, no matter how "good" or experienced they are.  This program has been through a lot over the last 3 years.  Could Matt have done a better job with some things... I am sure he would say that he could have.  Does anyone on the board remember Homer's first 4 seasons??? Or how about his first couple of seasons in the Horizon League??  If some of our players have regressed and it is Matt's fault then that is a big problem, but at this point I am not convinced that it is Matt or his coaching style.  Support the team and realize that we are playing with a roster that with all the parts working well together was capable of starting the conference 5-1, but as a3uge said really does not have a truly "complete" player on the roster and the injuries have definitely put a spotlight on our weaknesses and our opponents are exploiting them.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: tiny707 on February 25, 2019, 05:21:34 PM
Well said FWalum!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 01, 2019, 08:09:48 PM
https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1101605154485342208?s=21
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: NativeCheesehead on March 01, 2019, 08:30:14 PM
This was one of the better episodes of USH of the season.

Question for Paul:

Last episode you brought up the "Replace Lottich with Bryce" crowd. This episode it was the "can't build your program through transfers" group. Where are these groups coming from?

I'll admit, my Valpo basketball group is fairly restricted, basically this board and the 25-30 people I sit near at the games. But I haven't heard any of that. Im sure these voices are out there. But I would question how prevalent they are.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on March 01, 2019, 08:41:45 PM
I'm sure there's a subset but these opinions are far from prevalent. It almost feels a bit like setting up straw men to protect Lottich (To be fair I don't think Paul is wholly doing this I think he's just looking everywhere for answers where so few are readily available.) It's clear that Paul doesn't want to criticize Lottich too much but he knows that the coach is not without fault which he makes very clear in this podcast. I don't know anymore. I have no answers and have absolutely  no idea what to think.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 01, 2019, 08:53:24 PM
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on March 01, 2019, 08:30:14 PM
This was one of the better episodes of USH of the season.

Question for Paul:

Last episode you brought up the "Replace Lottich with Bryce" crowd. This episode it was the "can't build your program through transfers" group. Where are these groups coming from?

I'll admit, my Valpo basketball group is fairly restricted, basically this board and the 25-30 people I sit near at the games. But I haven't heard any of that. Im sure these voices are out there. But I would question how prevalent they are.

I saw a few people suggesting bring back Bryce on twitter and I think it was asked if it was possibility on this board. It just completely out of the realm of possibility for countless reasons. As for the transfer suggestion I'm not sure. I haven't seen too many people say that. I'm. All for adding transfers if their high ceiling players. If you are going to have to redshirt someone for a year and alter your depth it better be for high ceiling players. Ex: K Carter, Shane Hammink, Joe Burton (without the academic issues hopefully), Bakari (last year), Golder was a strong addition and didn't need to even sit out coming from JUCO. Hopefully Eron & Nick workout.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on March 02, 2019, 09:13:02 AM
Our championship teams all had transfer who were big contributors to get those trophies. 

Bobby C, Boggs, K Carter, Hammick, Nickerson. Those are some of the best players in our program history.  Stats won't show that but talent wise, they were.

However Our top 4 players in program history were recruited here as freshman. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 02, 2019, 04:00:16 PM
I'm looking forward to Paul's interview with Mark LaBarbera more than I am to watch this team and coaching staff embarrass us down in St. Louis. Tough questions need to asked and answered to say the least. Paul needs to ask the extension question and does ML deserve one. Also needs to ask what he thinks the weaknesses of his head coach are and how he plans to address them with him in his end of the season interview. This fan-base is prideful and it's been an embarrassment the last 2 seasons.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on March 02, 2019, 04:04:36 PM
Facilities too. Needs to mention facilities.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on March 02, 2019, 05:09:16 PM
He won't ask those tough questions...come on.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: NativeCheesehead on March 02, 2019, 05:11:09 PM
Paul does a good job and will ask what needs to be asked. But actions speak louder than words. I'll listen but I'm not expecting much in the way of answers.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: JD24 on March 02, 2019, 05:12:30 PM
Quote from: M on March 02, 2019, 05:09:16 PMHe won't ask those tough questions...come on.
Even if asked, they won't be answered to the satisfaction of the angry mob.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 02, 2019, 06:03:13 PM
Quote from: JD24 on March 02, 2019, 05:12:30 PM
Quote from: M on March 02, 2019, 05:09:16 PMHe won't ask those tough questions...come on.
Even if asked, they won't be answered to the satisfaction of the angry mob.

You're probably right. Not one answer will make everyone happy. I don't need to hear him say we're going to fire Lottich to be satisfied though. I think what many fans want to hear acknowledgement that the last two season need to be better than they've been and if things continue in this direction that we'll be willing to make a change. I understand not being willing fire other less high profile coaching positions because of funding constraints and wanting continuity but if push comes to shove and we give Lottich an extension and things don't markedly improve a few years after that, then we need to be willing to cut bait even if it means eating some of the contract. I don't expect that much candor but at least hint at it.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on March 02, 2019, 06:20:24 PM
And please... An ARC reno plan... I'm begging...
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 02, 2019, 06:29:08 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 02, 2019, 06:20:24 PM
And please... An ARC reno plan... I'm begging...

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Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on March 02, 2019, 06:32:03 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 02, 2019, 06:29:08 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 02, 2019, 06:20:24 PMAnd please... An ARC reno plan... I'm begging...
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I know... Because nobody in a position of power to really do something really cares about the longterm health and future of this program... Like I said before they want all of the benefits for none of the work... 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on March 02, 2019, 07:06:43 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 01, 2019, 08:53:24 PMI saw a few people suggesting bring back Bryce

Come on!  Who ever is suggesting this isn't listening to the sporting news.  Vandy lost again tonight to Texas A & M after leading at half.  They have now lost 17 in a row.  Guess what?  Vandy couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from the 3, and their talent level is a lot higher than Valpo.  Bryce or Matt can't make the shot for their teams.  We need to shut it down and after everyone is healthy, reevaluate our talent.  Who leads this team next year?  Who leaves and who stays and who rides the pines while others step into the starting lineup.  A VERY important off season as it relates to the future of the program as well as Matt's.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: a3uge on March 02, 2019, 07:29:15 PM


Quote from: vu72 on March 02, 2019, 07:06:43 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 01, 2019, 08:53:24 PMI saw a few people suggesting bring back Bryce

Come on!  Who ever is suggesting this isn't listening to the sporting news.  Vandy lost again tonight to Texas A & M after leading at half.  They have now lost 17 in a row.  Guess what?  Vandy couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from the 3, and their talent level is a lot higher than Valpo.  Bryce or Matt can't make the shot for their teams.  We need to shut it down and after everyone is healthy, reevaluate our talent.  Who leads this team next year?  Who leaves and who stays and who rides the pines while others step into the starting lineup.  A VERY important off season as it relates to the future of the program as well as Matt's.

Interesting Vandy is last place in conference PPG and FG%, and is shooting 31% from 3. Perhaps we're in the same situation with either coach. The whole offensive scheme needs to be scrapped.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 02, 2019, 07:51:03 PM
Quote from: a3uge on March 02, 2019, 07:29:15 PM


Quote from: vu72 on March 02, 2019, 07:06:43 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 01, 2019, 08:53:24 PMI saw a few people suggesting bring back Bryce

Come on!  Who ever is suggesting this isn't listening to the sporting news.  Vandy lost again tonight to Texas A & M after leading at half.  They have now lost 17 in a row.  Guess what?  Vandy couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from the 3, and their talent level is a lot higher than Valpo.  Bryce or Matt can't make the shot for their teams.  We need to shut it down and after everyone is healthy, reevaluate our talent.  Who leads this team next year?  Who leaves and who stays and who rides the pines while others step into the starting lineup.  A VERY important off season as it relates to the future of the program as well as Matt's.

Interesting Vandy is last place in conference PPG and FG%, and is shooting 31% from 3. Perhaps we're in the same situation with either coach. The whole offensive scheme needs to be scrapped.

I haven't watched enough Vandy BB to know if their running the same system. I know we're not running what Bryce ran though. This team relies heavily on Smits in the post and rest I'm not sure what hell we're (trying?) running.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 05, 2019, 07:42:12 PM
A really good podcast! I could listen to Joe Otis talk about basketball for hours. He shares some great insight about the roster, Coach Lottich, and the teams issues. Also has a few good stories.

Side Note: could we offer Joe Otis the Color Commentators job during the games? Please? I like Dave but Joe really could offer some interesting in game basketball analysis to pair with Todd which is what the job is suppose to be about. I'm not sure Joe would want it but for just home games maybe? Just an idea.

https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1103055443365117953?s=21
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 05, 2019, 08:18:28 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 05, 2019, 07:42:12 PM
A really good podcast! I could listen to Joe Otis talk about basketball for hours. He shares some great insight about the roster, Coach Lottich, and the teams issues. Also has a few good stories.

Side Note: could we offer Joe Otis the Color Commentators job during the games? Please? I like Dave but Joe really could offer some interesting in game basketball analysis to pair with Todd which is what the job is suppose to be about. I'm not sure Joe would want it but for just home games maybe? Just an idea.

https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1103055443365117953?s=21

Another interesting thing that came up during this interview was that Otis lobbied for Tonagel to get an interview.

Just a lot of great stuff in this episode of Union Street Hoops.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on March 05, 2019, 08:30:12 PM
Wow... and we think our current budgetary and facilities plight is embarrassing... Asking a coach for a ride? Good Lord...

Also find the Bryce vs Lottich comparison pretty invalid... But yes Teach the Virgil Sweet method...

Interesting that he thinks it's more on the players than Lottich for our late game struggles.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 05, 2019, 08:44:39 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on March 05, 2019, 08:30:12 PM
Wow... and we think our current budgetary and facilities plight is embarrassing... Asking a coach for a ride? Good Lord...

Also find the Bryce vs Lottich comparison pretty invalid... But yes Teach the Virgil Sweet method...

Interesting that he thinks it's more on the players than Lottich for our late game struggles.

Yeah he had some interesting things to say about the roster construction. He really hammered home the points of poor free throw shooting and not having enough shooters to space the floor. I got the sense that he felt like Lottich's staff has pursued higher caliber athletes that are less complete players (not amazing shooters). It's tough to find great athletes that can also effeciently shoot the ball. You can tell that was the case in Bryce's era. He went after not quite Markus Golder caliber athletes but guys who may be consider more well-rounded players. Ex: a Jubril Adekoya. Jubril was undersized but an excellent at doing all the little things and added a 3pt shot his senior year. But he did sprinkle in the stud athletes like Buggs and Shane Hammink.

He also talked about the revolving roster changes and guys maybe not knowing their roles by season's end. Just a really interesting interview.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: GoldenCrusader87 on March 06, 2019, 12:29:59 PM
Those of you who listen to Joe's comments regarding Matt need to listen closely. He's a professional.
And, it's not his first rodeo. He's not going to call for Matt to lose his job. But, if you listen closely - you will hear his concerns regarding Matt. And, the mention of his advocation for Tonagel is telling. Didn't even get an interview? What a joke. Makes me sick. And don't even tell me it's because of his religious views. Absurd. The man can flat out coach. We're the losers in this. As are our players. 3 national championships in how many years? 5??!!!??

You're crazy if you think that Greg wouldn't have this team performing better. I'm 1,000% confident he would.

And stop talking about Matt's playing career. I could honestly care less how "good" of a player he was. Honestly. Just like when I hear he runs the point guard for the scout team.

Cool. Have fun. Glad you can play. But my goodness. Increased winning % next year will be a result of transfers more than coaching. Which he can get credit for since he seemingly played a role in getting them to transfer. But, the man is stubborn. And will not get better without his willingness to humble himself and learn.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: elephtheria47 on March 06, 2019, 01:45:05 PM
Disappointing? Sure. Frustrating? You bet. But I think it's important to remember it's only ML third year as the head coach. Recruiting the first year was way behind since he got hired in April. He got Freeman, Fazekas, and the transfers who are sitting out this year....appears he can get talent. I think hes still trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and it's frustrating. Next year is critical for the program, and it'll be interesting to see how he does since he'll have "his guys" who have been in his "program" for multiple years. Let's hope it works.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: NativeCheesehead on March 06, 2019, 02:58:38 PM
Enough on Tonagel. He hasn't coached a day above NAIA. He can't sit down there and get mad if he doesn't get interviewed. (Not saying he is, but clearly some are.)

In reality, he has nothing left to prove there. If it's really his desire to be a DI HC, he needs to get experience on that level. He could easily get a #2 or #3 assistant's job with his resume.

Those advocating for Greg would have gone ballistic if we named a NAIA coach as our HC if his name was anything other than Greg Tonegal, so calm down a bit.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on March 06, 2019, 03:41:33 PM
I agree. Also, I don't think we need to go down another "hometown hero coaching his alma mater" road again.

The Drews have been good for Valpo Basketball but Valpo Basketball has also been very very good to the Drews but I don't know that's it's a model that was healthy for everyone involved.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: IrishDawg on March 06, 2019, 04:16:58 PM
Joe Otis has forgotten more basketball than I'll ever know, but to act like it should just be automatic that kids should just shoot 75-80% when there's about 35 teams in a given year that shoot that well from the foul line is a little too "back in my day we did blah blah blah".

Free throw shooting at the NCAA level is actually better now across the country than what it's ever been.  The last 4 years have seen the highest free throw percentages than any years since Kenpom's got records for back all the way to 1948.  This year's Valpo team, if you look at the team's free throw shooting over the last 19 years is ranked 11th.  Not great, but not terrible either and they're about 1.5% off of being average nationally.

In terms of coaching, you guys are better versed in what Lottich does than I'll ever be, but I don't think he's done a terrible job.  Team has young talent that needs development, and ultimately I think if he's going to be successful, that's what needs to happen.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on March 06, 2019, 05:05:08 PM
Honestly I don't think we would be nearly as upset if we hadn't lost in such an excruciating way so many times especially on our home floor. The two absolute no shows against Indiana State and Bradley on the road didn't help matters much either. 2 wins in the final 12 games doesn't sit well with anyone.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on March 06, 2019, 05:21:18 PM
I think for me it's less the blow outs (those happen to every team) vs the close losses that really are due to the team's tendency to go cold. If we played at consistent level, not even a better one, we win a lot more games.

I've said before I don't think the problem is coaching strategy as much as it's team development/mental and that's hard to address mid season, especially with the inconsistent line-ups we had. They need a reevaluation about how they prepare for the season and whether it's really getting them mentally prepared for the pressure of the games. Being a gym rat is great, putting in lots of effort and having great practices is good too but something intangible is still missing. I hesitate to say there's no "heart" to the team but I kinda feel like that's it. They feel like a hodge podge of talent and backgrounds that haven't figured out how the pieces make a whole picture.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: GoldenCrusader87 on March 06, 2019, 06:55:59 PM
Again, I'll never understand why some of you make these ongoing excuses. It's only his 3rd year as a head coach. Boo hoo. Greg needs D1 coaching experience first? Oh, right. So, it made more sense for us to hire a guy who had been an assistant coach at ONE mid-major D-1 school under ONE head coach who was a control freak. Who likely had next to no direct say on in-game decisions.

VS.

Someone who has won 3 national championships in 5 years as THE HEAD coach. Makes sense.

He should go sit under Matt for 3 years first. Then, he'll magically be ready?

Here's a 13-year old article on Greg:

https://www.heraldargus.com/news/opinion/my-pick-for-iu-hoops-coach-greg-tonagel/article_60b0fa5a-c9b1-594e-a45d-16599ad5c571.html

What was Matt doing 13 years ago?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on March 06, 2019, 07:04:03 PM
A different opinion than you on whether we should have hired another person is not an excuse.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on March 06, 2019, 07:35:20 PM
It's been discussed more then a couple times why Lottich was hired and why he was probably the right choice at that time.

We get it...you hate Lottich, the AD, and anyone who disagrees with your posts.

Maybe you'll never understand...but give it more then a month.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on March 06, 2019, 07:40:25 PM
Quote from: IrishDawg on March 06, 2019, 04:16:58 PM
Joe Otis has forgotten more basketball than I'll ever know, but to act like it should just be automatic that kids should just shoot 75-80% when there's about 35 teams in a given year that shoot that well from the foul line is a little too "back in my day we did blah blah blah".

Free throw shooting at the NCAA level is actually better now across the country than what it's ever been.  The last 4 years have seen the highest free throw percentages than any years since Kenpom's got records for back all the way to 1948.  This year's Valpo team, if you look at the team's free throw shooting over the last 19 years is ranked 11th.  Not great, but not terrible either and they're about 1.5% off of being average nationally.

In terms of coaching, you guys are better versed in what Lottich does than I'll ever be, but I don't think he's done a terrible job.  Team has young talent that needs development, and ultimately I think if he's going to be successful, that's what needs to happen.

Agreed, at one point only two teams in the country were above 80%, I remember posting that after being surprised myself.  But he was a refreshing commentator and I hope he joins us again soon.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on March 06, 2019, 07:46:45 PM
Quote from: GoldenCrusader87 on March 06, 2019, 12:29:59 PM
Those of you who listen to Joe's comments regarding Matt need to listen closely. He's a professional.
And, it's not his first rodeo. He's not going to call for Matt to lose his job. But, if you listen closely - you will hear his concerns regarding Matt. And, the mention of his advocation for Tonagel is telling. Didn't even get an interview? What a joke. Makes me sick. And don't even tell me it's because of his religious views. Absurd. The man can flat out coach. We're the losers in this. As are our players. 3 national championships in how many years? 5??!!!??

You're crazy if you think that Greg wouldn't have this team performing better. I'm 1,000% confident he would.

And stop talking about Matt's playing career. I could honestly care less how "good" of a player he was. Honestly. Just like when I hear he runs the point guard for the scout team.

Cool. Have fun. Glad you can play. But my goodness. Increased winning % next year will be a result of transfers more than coaching. Which he can get credit for since he seemingly played a role in getting them to transfer. But, the man is stubborn. And will not get better without his willingness to humble himself and learn.

(Sound of deep breath inhaling)
(Sound of long exhalation)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: GoldenCrusader87 on March 06, 2019, 08:03:05 PM
I don't hate any of them. I want to support a well-run program. I want that more THAN believing in a pipe dream. When you check your spelling, then you can explain your ability to read my mind.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on March 06, 2019, 08:15:26 PM
Oh goodie or goody...another grammer nahtzi
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: GoldenCrusader87 on March 06, 2019, 08:19:06 PM
How's this for a spelling lesson ...

Give me a G - G!
Give me an R - R!
Give me an E - E!
Give me a G - G!

What's that spell? WIN!

Louder! WIN!!!!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on March 06, 2019, 08:49:26 PM
Quote from: M on March 06, 2019, 08:15:26 PM
Oh goodie or goody...another grammer nahtzi

💋
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on March 06, 2019, 08:54:10 PM
Quote from: GoldenCrusader87 on March 06, 2019, 08:03:05 PMWhen you check your spelling, then you can explain your ability to read my mind.

bravo!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VULB#62 on March 06, 2019, 09:06:33 PM
This is getting ridiculous.  :deadhorse:

Quote from: GoldenCrusader87 on March 06, 2019, 06:55:59 PM
Here's a 13-year old article on Greg:

https://www.heraldargus.com/news/opinion/my-pick-for-iu-hoops-coach-greg-tonagel/article_60b0fa5a-c9b1-594e-a45d-16599ad5c571.html


BTW, and FYI the article author: JOtis.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: JD24 on March 06, 2019, 10:03:49 PM
Quote from: GoldenCrusader87 on March 06, 2019, 06:55:59 PMAgain, I'll never understand why some of you make these ongoing excuses. It's only his 3rd year as a head coach. Boo hoo. Greg needs D1 coaching experience first? Oh, right. So, it made more sense for us to hire a guy who had been an assistant coach at ONE mid-major D-1 school under ONE head coach who was a control freak. Who likely had next to no direct say on in-game decisions. VS. Someone who has won 3 national championships in 5 years as THE HEAD coach. Makes sense. He should go sit under Matt for 3 years first. Then, he'll magically be ready? Here's a 13-year old article on Greg: https://www.heraldargus.com/news/opinion/my-pick-for-iu-hoops-coach-greg-tonagel/article_60b0fa5a-c9b1-594e-a45d-16599ad5c571.html What was Matt doing 13 years ago?
Dude...or Dudette.....
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: JD24 on March 06, 2019, 10:07:05 PM
Quote from: crusader05 on March 06, 2019, 05:21:18 PMI think for me it's less the blow outs (those happen to every team) vs the close losses that really are due to the team's tendency to go cold. 
Agreed that flat games (i.e. blowouts) occur to every team. The close game issue, I think, is due to the lack of a real go to guy who is a lock to score or at least make a play resulting in a score in most situations.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on March 07, 2019, 05:09:59 AM
Quote from: crusader05 on March 06, 2019, 03:41:33 PM
I agree. Also, I don't think we need to go down another "hometown hero coaching his alma mater" road again.

The Drews have been good for Valpo Basketball but Valpo Basketball has also been very very good to the Drews but I don't know that's it's a model that was healthy for everyone involved.

I think it's more accurately "Valpo basketball was also been very, very good FOR the Drew's. It was the right fit at the right time - a university with a fledgling D-1 bb program, which provided a unique opportunity for Homer to move up in the coaching world. I suppose you could say they were very good TO him (not sure about "very, very") by staying with him during the lean years at the beginning. Other than that, Valpo was like any other employer, was it not?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on March 07, 2019, 07:26:55 AM
I mean to because of the fact that they hired both sons, as well as rehiring homer after the first left, so that he could hold the reins until Bryce was ready to take over coaching.

I know they were't always happy with how little money was spent. BUT Valpo basketball is the reason both sons have a very lucrative coaching career right now, and that wouldn't have happened if Valpo hadn't stuck by Homer during really rough times in the beginning and chose to allow Valpo Basketball be their stomping grounds for so long.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on March 07, 2019, 12:01:13 PM
Just because a coach can recruit doesn't mean he will have success.  On this board, we have ripped the Steve McClain and Ray McCallum of the HL for the very same thing. 

Bring in King Kampe.  I'm kidding.  Kind of.  Anything is better at this point.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: NativeCheesehead on March 07, 2019, 12:12:45 PM
Arguments could be made both Bryce and Scott would have had good careers without Valpo. Scott has clearly proved he can coach with the big boys, and though it may have taken an extra few years, cream rises.

Bryce would have ended up at a different college as a player, and of course who knows how that would have turned out, NBA pension, etc.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on March 07, 2019, 12:36:23 PM
Quote from: wh on March 07, 2019, 05:09:59 AM
Quote from: crusader05 on March 06, 2019, 03:41:33 PM
I agree. Also, I don't think we need to go down another "hometown hero coaching his alma mater" road again.

The Drews have been good for Valpo Basketball but Valpo Basketball has also been very very good to the Drews but I don't know that's it's a model that was healthy for everyone involved.

I think it's more accurately "Valpo basketball was also been very, very good FOR the Drew's. It was the right fit at the right time - a university with a fledgling D-1 bb program, which provided a unique opportunity for Homer to move up in the coaching world. I suppose you could say they were very good TO him (not sure about "very, very") by staying with him during the lean years at the beginning. Other than that, Valpo was like any other employer, was it not?

Perhaps.  But it wasn't like Valpo was just providing a job.  The Drews (Homer and Bryce) were, at their peak, the highest paid employees at Valpo--including the President.  If there wasn't a commitment to basketball, the high salaries would have been the reason they let them go to another mid-major program and then bring in another coach who would be around for a few years until something better came along.  Valpo paying and keeping Bryce, as they did, put him in a position to wait for what he deemed to be a perfect fit.  We'll see about that.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 09, 2019, 11:34:03 PM
Looking forward ML's podcast with Paul. Many things to discuss.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 19, 2019, 07:50:49 PM
Need to the 2nd half of this podcast.  :(

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1107772537281413120
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on March 20, 2019, 05:38:31 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1108489833721327617
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: GoldenCrusader87 on March 20, 2019, 06:37:21 PM
30-minutes in ... and, not an inkling of responsibility placed on Matt. Figures. I'll finish and hope for something here ... defending Matt's press release. Idk - we're not going to make any traction here. It is what it is.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: GoldenCrusader87 on March 20, 2019, 06:42:32 PM
Starting to wonder what the target audience of these podcasts is... why not bring someone on who IS concerned? Case in point = even Dot Nuechterlein tweeted about this situation ... she's like our Sister Jean ... come on. Sometimes, it's just bad ingredients ... seriously? Bueller. Bueller.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Valpo2013 on March 20, 2019, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: GoldenCrusader87 on March 20, 2019, 06:42:32 PM
Starting to wonder what the target audience of these podcasts is... why not bring someone on who IS concerned? Case in point = even Dot Nuechterlein tweeted about this situation ... she's like our Sister Jean ... come on. Sometimes, it's just bad ingredients ... seriously? Bueller. Bueller.

Normally I'd listen but I'm sure Oren just glosses over the issues
Not going to waste my time
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on March 20, 2019, 06:56:29 PM
Quote from: VUBBFan on March 20, 2019, 06:55:18 PM
Quote from: GoldenCrusader87 on March 20, 2019, 06:42:32 PMStarting to wonder what the target audience of these podcasts is... why not bring someone on who IS concerned? Case in point = even Dot Nuechterlein tweeted about this situation ... she's like our Sister Jean ... come on. Sometimes, it's just bad ingredients ... seriously? Bueller. Bueller.
I agree on some of your points, but it seems that your not satisfied with any comments or discussions that concern VU Basketball that don't crucify Lottich.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: JD24 on March 20, 2019, 08:27:25 PM
Quote from: VUBBFan on March 20, 2019, 06:56:29 PM
Quote from: VUBBFan on March 20, 2019, 06:55:18 PM
Quote from: GoldenCrusader87 on March 20, 2019, 06:42:32 PMStarting to wonder what the target audience of these podcasts is... why not bring someone on who IS concerned? Case in point = even Dot Nuechterlein tweeted about this situation ... she's like our Sister Jean ... come on. Sometimes, it's just bad ingredients ... seriously? Bueller. Bueller.
I agree on some of your points, but it seems that your not satisfied with any comments or discussions that concern VU Basketball that don't crucify Lottich.

El stampo!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on March 21, 2019, 09:17:49 PM
Plenty Dot is a cranky twitterer
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on April 20, 2019, 08:29:03 PM
These two were a great podcast duo

PS: Love the jersey Paul  :thumbsup:

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1119340798032527360
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on April 25, 2019, 09:09:29 AM
Paul, I know you have been out having a good time with Parker, but don't you think with all that has happened and the latest addition of Zion Morgan that it is about time for the next installment of USH? You say that we are going to love Morgan on Twitter... give us a little more red meat on this guy and all the other newcomers!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on April 25, 2019, 09:16:15 AM
He's posted on twitter that he's been having computer issues that he's been working to get resolved so I think once that happens we will have a return to the podcast
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on April 25, 2019, 11:58:23 AM
Quote from: crusader05 on April 25, 2019, 09:16:15 AMthat he's been having computer issues that he's been working to get resolved

Hope he didn't put his laptop on "RED" at the roulette wheel at the Bellagio...

that could explain the "Issue"...?   
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: GoldenCrusader87 on April 26, 2019, 10:09:41 AM
Paul's likely waiting for everything to work itself out so he can put a positive spin on this entire dumpster fire and ultimately validate his prior comments about Matt and the positive trajectory of the program.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on April 26, 2019, 05:43:30 PM
https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1121905064459886592?s=21
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on April 27, 2019, 07:13:48 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1122289717465235456
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on April 27, 2019, 07:59:46 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 27, 2019, 07:13:48 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1122289717465235456

A great podcast. A few very interest nuggets were that Todd thought that Freeman didn't want to leave Valpo and that there may still be a chance Jay Sorolla may come back to Valpo.

It's a must listen episode.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on April 27, 2019, 08:02:06 PM
I am going to say i'm surprised that Freeman hasn't already been snapped up. I figured he left knowing exactly where he was going.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on April 27, 2019, 09:18:59 PM
He can come back anytime he'd like to... I hope he reconsiders and comes back... Come back Javon! We need you! Golder can come back too... Sorolla I guess as well since we really need a big...
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on April 27, 2019, 09:45:03 PM
The apologetics for Lottich on this podcast are unsurprising but frustrating and disappointing. It isn't ALL his fault but it IS his responsibility ultimately.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on April 27, 2019, 10:05:38 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on April 27, 2019, 09:45:03 PM
The apologetics for Lottich on this podcast are unsurprising but frustrating and disappointing. It isn't ALL his fault but it IS his responsibility ultimately.

A responsibility that he's answering by restocking the roster, no? The guy will be coaching for his job this coming season. Knowing that, he's chosen to restock the roster with guys best suited for the long term as opposed to a bunch of quick fix one-year grad transfers.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on April 27, 2019, 10:44:47 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on April 27, 2019, 09:45:03 PM
The apologetics for Lottich on this podcast are unsurprising but frustrating and disappointing. It isn't ALL his fault but it IS his responsibility ultimately.

Paul and Todd are not going to rip on our returning coach, nor should they. Their take is the same as mine (which is why I like it). Some of the guys who left are addition by subtraction, the guys replacing them are a better fit, and the team is now positioned for a successful season coming up, and hopefully beyond. As Todd said, "If it doesn't turn out that way, that'll be on Matt."  What more is there to say?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: humbleopinion on April 28, 2019, 05:31:27 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 27, 2019, 07:59:46 PMA great podcast. A few very interest nuggets were that Todd thought that Freeman didn't want to leave Valpo and that there may still be a chance Jay Sorolla may come back to Valpo.

Those two things jumped out at me as well.  I would like to know who was putting pressure on Javonn -- was it his uncle? Was there some other push? Neither I nor anyone on the board (I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong) had considered the possibility that Jay would return.  He, too, seems to have been pressured to announce his transfer.

I appreciated the perspective that last year's team was a ninth place MVC team -- isn't it better to put a different team out on the court for 2019-20?

It seems that Siggy will more than replace Micah.  I'm looking forward to seeing the new Valpo (but my expectations are realistic).
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on April 28, 2019, 07:50:45 AM
The way it read(listened?) to me was that maybe he wasn't necessarily unhappy at Valpo but that whatever his ultimate goals are he was worried he wouldn't be able to reach them at Valpo.

I also still think that Jay is only interested in playing abroad vs a grad transfer in reality but that he's just "putting himself on the market" so to speak to maybe increase his worth.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on April 28, 2019, 08:11:19 AM
Let's be honest. Jay is a bad offensive player, borderline terrible. I hope we find someone else.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: NativeCheesehead on April 28, 2019, 09:12:47 AM
Is Matt coaching for his job?  We still don't know the length of his contract.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpopal on April 28, 2019, 10:56:01 AM
To me, the big news in the broadcast was Todd's comment that he would be totally shocked if Bradford is seen in a Valpo uniform again. I hope this means another spot opens soon for an additional recruit or transfer.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on April 28, 2019, 12:24:44 PM
Quote from: wh on April 28, 2019, 08:11:19 AM
Let's be honest. Jay is a bad offensive player, borderline terrible. I hope we find someone else.

I wouldn't say terrible but more or less, "limited". This is just my opinion but I don't think next season needs a stud offensive center. We need an experienced big who could eat minutes and play solid-good defense and Jay offers that. Not to mention he also has experience playing with some of these guys. Is he a perfect player? No, but he's what this team needs. You also need to factor that the market for quality experienced bigs is extremely thin. Nobody we can land on the grad-transfer market is going to be a guy we want to run the offense through.

I hope Jay comes back to Valpo because I think he could play a role that would have a "big" impact on the court. He'd also have the chance to be "the" guy at center and get to show international scouts how good he can be.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on April 28, 2019, 01:50:46 PM
It sounds like UNCW is pursuing Jay. Former Valpo assistant Jackie Manuel is on that staff. He also lured away Marty Linssen after his freshman season. It will be interesting to see where he lands.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpospartan on April 28, 2019, 03:03:01 PM
Quote from: valpopal on April 28, 2019, 10:56:01 AM
To me, the big news in the broadcast was Todd's comment that he would be totally shocked if Bradford is seen in a Valpo uniform again. I hope this means another spot opens soon for an additional recruit or transfer.
I seem to remember saying, months ago, that MB will never play at VU again.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on April 28, 2019, 03:08:44 PM
Quote from: valpospartan on April 28, 2019, 03:03:01 PM
Quote from: valpopal on April 28, 2019, 10:56:01 AM
To me, the big news in the broadcast was Todd's comment that he would be totally shocked if Bradford is seen in a Valpo uniform again. I hope this means another spot opens soon for an additional recruit or transfer.
I seem to remember saying, months ago, that MB will never play at VU again.

I think Micah was fully anticipating on playing at VU until it no longer became his choice. Well it was his choice but he made a pretty dumb mistake and risked his scholarship/roster spot.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on April 28, 2019, 03:10:08 PM
Quote from: valpospartan on April 28, 2019, 03:03:01 PM
Quote from: valpopal on April 28, 2019, 10:56:01 AM
To me, the big news in the broadcast was Todd's comment that he would be totally shocked if Bradford is seen in a Valpo uniform again. I hope this means another spot opens soon for an additional recruit or transfer.
I seem to remember saying, months ago, that MB will never play at VU again.

You deserve a kudos.

(https://ci.alamogordo.nm.us/ImageRepository/Document?documentID=3446)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: GoldenCrusader87 on April 28, 2019, 06:52:05 PM
I was perturbed to see that Micah was speaking at a camp or something the other day. He's not (or shouldn't be) an ambassador of our program.
And, if he is ... we've got bigger problems on our hands. Nothing spells out a "me mentality" than getting in trouble for something and then getting in trouble for it again. Jeopardizes your team. That's as "me-oriented" as it gets.
Sorry.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on April 28, 2019, 07:47:22 PM
It wasn't a VU camp. Pretty sure he was there as a favor to the guy who ran the camp.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: SanityLost17 on April 29, 2019, 07:28:00 AM
I was also very interested by the "Javon didn't want to leave" comment.  I have a feeling the family wasn't happy with him playing on the 9th place MVC team given how well he played and what his potential is.   I can understand that.   Goes back to my comment months ago that said if we could manage 11 wins in conference we would have Javon back.   

Oh well.  Too late now. 

I also liked the fact they compared Zion Morgan to a poor man's Javon.   Zion was highly touted out of HS, had injury problems in college and sounds like he is just not getting back to normal.  With his age and if he is indeed back to full speed, "keeping Sackey in front of him" we might just survive the loss of JFL. 

I will mimic others on the board.   I wouldn't hate if Sorolla came back, but if we could get a grad transfer with more offense I would be happy.  I am really not opposed to 6-8 or 6-9 guys playing center that can step out and shoot the 3.   Not sure we need a true big man.   Look at Da Silva from Mo-State.   A guy like that and I do think we will legitimately be more competitive next year. 

It is almost like Lottich struck out in his first round of team building and now gets a 2nd chance (whether he deserves it or not).  Will he learn from his mistakes?   Hopefully he knows more about exactly what players he needs to build a winner.   
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on April 29, 2019, 08:17:29 AM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on April 29, 2019, 07:28:00 AMwe might just survive the loss of JFL. 

You would think we lost Alec Peters or Bryce Drew.  JFL was a good player but didn't even make 2nd team all League.  He was a tremendous defensive player who scored 10.6 ppg in conference play and shot 26.4% from the 3.  10.6 ppg on a terrible shooting team while playing far and away the most minutes.

I think once you see Donovan and Zion play defense (and they are both taller), I think the memory of JFL and Golder will soon fade.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on April 29, 2019, 09:10:14 AM
Quote from: vu72 on April 29, 2019, 08:17:29 AM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on April 29, 2019, 07:28:00 AMwe might just survive the loss of JFL. 

You would think we lost Alec Peters or Bryce Drew.  JFL was a good player but didn't even make 2nd team all League.  He was a tremendous defensive player who scored 10.6 ppg in conference play and shot 26.4% from the 3.  10.6 ppg on a terrible shooting team while playing far and away the most minutes.

I think once you see Donovan and Zion play defense (and they are both taller), I think the memory of JFL and Golder will soon fade.


This Scouting report from the Jeff Goodman article about the best remaining available transfers says it pretty accurately for JFL.
QuoteScout's take: "Long, athletic slasher who is very good in the open court and good at getting into the paint on drives. Gets a lot of steals on defense, but also because he gambles. Needs to improve his perimeter shot."
Would have been difficult for Javon to ever become a Bryce, Alec or Ryan because of his lack of an overall offensive game. JFL will be a very good player and would have been a great for us... if he could have developed a more consistent outside and midrange shot. Javon was great at getting steals, but Tevonn Walker was a better on ball defender. Javon had the occasional "olé" moment when he gambled and then watched his man go uncontested to the rim.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpo64 on April 29, 2019, 10:12:52 AM
It doesn't matter whether a player scores/shoots  a lot or very little, at the D-1 level you have to be able to shoot well.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on April 29, 2019, 10:59:02 AM
Quote from: vu72 on April 29, 2019, 08:17:29 AM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on April 29, 2019, 07:28:00 AMwe might just survive the loss of JFL. 

You would think we lost Alec Peters or Bryce Drew.  JFL was a good player but didn't even make 2nd team all League.  He was a tremendous defensive player who scored 10.6 ppg in conference play and shot 26.4% from the 3.  10.6 ppg on a terrible shooting team while playing far and away the most minutes.

I think once you see Donovan and Zion play defense (and they are both taller), I think the memory of JFL and Golder will soon fade.

I know Morgan can shoot from 3, but haven't heard much about Clay.  Does he shoot well from the perimeter or is he a slasher like JFL was?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on April 29, 2019, 11:33:34 AM
Quote from: EddieCabot on April 29, 2019, 10:59:02 AM
Quote from: vu72 on April 29, 2019, 08:17:29 AM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on April 29, 2019, 07:28:00 AMwe might just survive the loss of JFL. 

You would think we lost Alec Peters or Bryce Drew.  JFL was a good player but didn't even make 2nd team all League.  He was a tremendous defensive player who scored 10.6 ppg in conference play and shot 26.4% from the 3.  10.6 ppg on a terrible shooting team while playing far and away the most minutes.

I think once you see Donovan and Zion play defense (and they are both taller), I think the memory of JFL and Golder will soon fade.

I know Morgan can shoot from 3, but haven't heard much about Clay.  Does he shoot well from the perimeter or is he a slasher like JFL was?

His shooting stats are nothing short of spectacular:  2PT FG 69%  3PT FG 39%  Combined 63%

http://stats.stlhighschoolsports.com/sports/basketballboys/stats/teamstatplayer.php?t=3&s=746&p=880920

Note: I had to add up the game-by-game stats to get season totals.  6 games didn't have shot attempts, so I excluded those. 

These amazing numbers are supported by quotes from newspaper articles about Donovan, including from our own Michael Osipoff:

On the season, Clay is averaging 17.8 points, 7.6 rebounds and 2.6 assists a game while shooting 40 percent from the three-point line and 63 percent from the field.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-spt-mens-basketball-valparaiso-notes-donovan-clay-st-0205-story.html

Clay was averaging 18 points and eight rebounds. He was shooting better than 60 percent, including above 40 from 3-point range.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-spt-mens-basketball-valparaiso-notes-donovan-clay-st-0205-story.html





Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on April 29, 2019, 12:02:48 PM
Quote from: wh on April 27, 2019, 10:44:47 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on April 27, 2019, 09:45:03 PM
The apologetics for Lottich on this podcast are unsurprising but frustrating and disappointing. It isn't ALL his fault but it IS his responsibility ultimately.

Paul and Todd are not going to rip on our returning coach, nor should they. Their take is the same as mine (which is why I like it). Some of the guys who left are addition by subtraction, the guys replacing them are a better fit, and the team is now positioned for a successful season coming up, and hopefully beyond. As Todd said, "If it doesn't turn out that way, that'll be on Matt."  What more is there to say?

I finally had a chance to listen and thought the analysis was solid.  Paul and his guest seemed not surprised/disappointed by the departures and were really high on the talent level of the newcomers (both transfers and freshmen).  Looking forward to seeing how all these new guys mesh together.

I also had a chance to watch some video on Krikke and was really impressed.  He reminds me quite a bit of Belmont's Dylan Windler ... lanky lefty with great skills.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on April 29, 2019, 02:07:39 PM
If Paul can get Lottich on the podcast I hope he presses on questions like "what would you have done differently your first 3 years in hindsight?", "what have you learned from your first 3 years?" (Don't let him give you a canned answer, drill into him and ask for specifics), "why do you think so many guys left?", "what type of offense would like to run here? How will it differ from your last two seasons?"

Obviously there are so many questions. Just keep drilling for concrete/specific answers.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on April 29, 2019, 02:46:24 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 29, 2019, 02:07:39 PM
If Paul can get Lottich on the podcast I hope he presses on questions like "what would have have done differently your first 3 years in hindsight?", "what have you learned from your first 3 years?" (Don't let him give you a canned answer, drill into him and ask for specifics), "why do you think so many guys left?", "what type of offense would like to run here? How will it differ from your last two seasons?"

Obviously there are so many questions. Just keep drilling for concrete/specific answers.

I don't think that will happen.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpo64 on April 29, 2019, 03:11:40 PM
Haven't we had enough of "get Lottich"?  There has been enough "stuff" thrown around on this subject on this Board recently that everyone should of had his fill of it.  But I guess some people never do get enough.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on April 29, 2019, 05:21:33 PM
Quote from: valpo64 on April 29, 2019, 03:11:40 PM
Haven't we had enough of "get Lottich"?  There has been enough "stuff" thrown around on this subject on this Board recently that everyone should of had his fill of it.  But I guess some people never do get enough.

I'm not looking for Paul to play "gotcha" in a interview with Lottich. All I want is real and truthful answers to fair questions. I think the best example I could give was when Michael did his yearly big end of the season interview with Mark LaBarbera he asked the tough follow up questions. I think it's totally fair to ask those questions of Lottich. It's just a waste of time if he's going give the fluff answers to questions and not asked for specific. Matt is a man and has been in that head coaching position for 3 years, so he can take some deservedly hard and fair questions.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: ValpoFan on April 30, 2019, 01:46:31 PM
I enjoy the podcast and I really appreciate Paul and all he does for us as fans. One of his best attributes is the ability to say it like it is. No sugarcoating!

Ickow is not in the same boat. He is a university employee and it is his job to market the programs and drum up interest. Therefore, I know what to expect from him. Every recruit we bring is unbelievably awesome and every team we put on the court is amazing!!! I have nothing against the guy...I can't blame him for doing his job. But I don't have to believe what he says.

I am a little surprised to read some of the reactions re: JFL not wanting to leave. So the kid is in an exit interview and he does not want to burn any bridges, so he tells the coaches, AD, and whoever else is there that he really liked Valpo and did not want to leave but he has to. This is like a BF/GF using lines such as: "it is not you, it is me" or "you deserve someone better than me".
If JFL did not want to leave, he doesn't have to leave. He is an adult and has a full ride scholarship with his name on it.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on April 30, 2019, 02:17:09 PM
I think you have it backwards. Paul is a university employee...Ickow, I'm pretty sure, donates his time to do those play by play calls.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on April 30, 2019, 02:33:33 PM
Quote from: M on April 30, 2019, 02:17:09 PM
I think you have it backwards. Paul is a university employee...Ickow, I'm pretty sure, donates his time to do those play by play calls.

No way Todd isn't on a salary.  He would need to be one heck of a poker player to support a family and be away from home as much as he is.  Remember he also does all the football broadcasts.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on April 30, 2019, 02:42:57 PM
I could be wrong, that has happened once before.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on April 30, 2019, 04:36:32 PM
Quote from: ValpoFan on April 30, 2019, 01:46:31 PM
I enjoy the podcast and I really appreciate Paul and all he does for us as fans. One of his best attributes is the ability to say it like it is. No sugarcoating!

Ickow is not in the same boat. He is a university employee and it is his job to market the programs and drum up interest. Therefore, I know what to expect from him. Every recruit we bring is unbelievably awesome and every team we put on the court is amazing!!! I have nothing against the guy...I can't blame him for doing his job. But I don't have to believe what he says.

I am a little surprised to read some of the reactions re: JFL not wanting to leave. So the kid is in an exit interview and he does not want to burn any bridges, so he tells the coaches, AD, and whoever else is there that he really liked Valpo and did not want to leave but he has to. This is like a BF/GF using lines such as: "it is not you, it is me" or "you deserve someone better than me".
If JFL did not want to leave, he doesn't have to leave. He is an adult and has a full ride scholarship with his name on it.

I have to agree. Unless he had a "sponsor" (like Skara had that blackmailing clown Dave Marcella), such an idea doesn't make a lot of sense.

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: ValpoFan on April 30, 2019, 05:22:02 PM
I stand corrected. I was too focused on Paul's role as a NWI Times writer, I forgot that he is also a university employee.
I should have been more precise and say that Ickow is an employee of the Athletic Department while Oren is not.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on April 30, 2019, 06:07:33 PM
Also I don't think they meant they thought someone make Freeman leave. It was only one sentence but I thought he was drawing a distinction between those that are leaving cause they are disgruntled with the program and Javon who, maybe, was just making a basketball as business decision to try to get to a bigger program.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: humbleopinion on April 30, 2019, 07:04:30 PM
Quote from: crusader05 on April 30, 2019, 06:07:33 PM
Also I don't think they meant they thought someone make Freeman leave. It was only one sentence but I thought he was drawing a distinction between those that are leaving cause they are disgruntled with the program and Javon who, maybe, was just making a basketball as business decision to try to get to a bigger program.

A number of us have conjectured on what they meant when they said that he didn't want to leave (I can't remember the exact words).  I hope that either Chef or Pgmado can expand on the brief statement.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on April 30, 2019, 10:26:29 PM
Here's my take on Javon. He verbal committed early and to his credit stayed firm when some bigger schools sniffed around.


He was used to winning in high school and comes to a College that ends up with a losing record. While he is here in the Valley he gets all these accolades, praises and talk of possible freshman of the year award.


Now I think he has second thoughts about his quick decision for Valpo and gets a little buyer's remorse. Thinking about what might have been going to a bigger school with a winnable record. He has a ton of followers on Twitter so I am sure he was getting a lot pressure from them too, saying he's wasting time at a small school.


Bottom line if we would have had a good winning record and had gone farther in the MVC tourney, I think he might have stayed.   
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on May 01, 2019, 10:28:14 AM
Quote from: wh on April 30, 2019, 04:36:32 PM
Quote from: ValpoFan on April 30, 2019, 01:46:31 PM
I enjoy the podcast and I really appreciate Paul and all he does for us as fans. One of his best attributes is the ability to say it like it is. No sugarcoating!

Ickow is not in the same boat. He is a university employee and it is his job to market the programs and drum up interest. Therefore, I know what to expect from him. Every recruit we bring is unbelievably awesome and every team we put on the court is amazing!!! I have nothing against the guy...I can't blame him for doing his job. But I don't have to believe what he says.

I am a little surprised to read some of the reactions re: JFL not wanting to leave. So the kid is in an exit interview and he does not want to burn any bridges, so he tells the coaches, AD, and whoever else is there that he really liked Valpo and did not want to leave but he has to. This is like a BF/GF using lines such as: "it is not you, it is me" or "you deserve someone better than me".
If JFL did not want to leave, he doesn't have to leave. He is an adult and has a full ride scholarship with his name on it.

I have to agree. Unless he had a "sponsor" (like Skara had that blackmailing clown Dave Marcella), such an idea doesn't make a lot of sense.

Dave Maravilla

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/ct-ptb-mike-hutton-column-st-0305-20170304-column,amp.html
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on July 18, 2019, 10:44:23 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1151968926332596225
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on July 19, 2019, 04:58:20 AM
A fun listen and good trip down memory lane!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on August 15, 2019, 05:20:10 PM
https://twitter.com/AlBillets/status/1162003171859992576
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on August 15, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
Good interview with AD Mark. Nothing earth shaking but some good information. Touched on the direction of ARC improvements. Sounds like there is a plan but gave no particulars. The best part of the interview was the explanation of the schedule buyouts and what they are using the money for. They also talked more about scheduling games.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on August 15, 2019, 09:40:07 PM
A plan but no specifics is tantamount to no plan... How are we supposed to get behind a project and support it or get hopeful for one when we don't even know what is in the works? Why so secretive about everything? If you've got a plan show us and tell us how we can help. If you don't have a plan then just be honest enough to tell us you've got nohting and then deal with the fan reaction. It won't be good but at least we'd appreciate your honesty.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on August 15, 2019, 09:45:35 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on August 15, 2019, 09:40:07 PM
A plan but no specifics is tantamount to no plan... How are we supposed to get behind a project and support it or get hopeful for one when we don't even know what is in the works? Why so secretive about everything? If you've got a plan show us and tell us how we can help. If you don't have a plan then just be honest enough to tell us you've got nohting and then deal with the fan reaction. It won't be good but at least we'd appreciate your honesty.

We announced the "specifics" of the George Washington game....how'd that end?  I get your enthusiasm but if it's premature to announce then I think it's reasonable to only hint.  He's also using the media to his advantage by drumming up excitement on a significant project.  I'm ok with his wording because it's not as if he's teased this "donor" before...
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on August 16, 2019, 12:41:42 AM
Interesting comments on MH's leadership and his role in getting us to the MVC. Disappointing a bit to hear them say that "We are not in the MVC without Mark Heckler because of how that makes the VU Board look. Also good perspective on  the difficulty of the HL transition and knowing that especially in all sports this is actually a tougher transition than our transition to the HL. Fair and inarguable point.  However small point of order The MVC actually fielded 3 teams in the baseball tournament this past year. Tournament Champion (Indiana State) and at larges Illinois State and Dallas Baptist (Associate Member for Baseball only)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: NotBryceDrew on August 16, 2019, 08:00:34 AM
Anyone have any idea of Oren's status with the University after the release of those messages in the spring? Business as usual, beat the investigation, or did it just completely blow over?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on August 16, 2019, 09:40:37 AM
Thanks all for listening to USH. Got a lot of good feedback and nice messages after this one.

The plan is to get some more players on future episodes once summer vacation ends in a couple days. Lots of people have split town before classes start up on Tuesday, then it's back to work for everyone.

You may have also noticed a change in leadership at The Times sports department. Thrilled to have Mike Clark running the show. Robbie and I will continue to cover VU as well as a host of high school sports. This should be an exciting year!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on August 16, 2019, 11:39:06 AM
Good podcast, thanks Paul.

Mvc transition is a bigger jump than the HL when considering all sports.

I don't think so in men's hoops.  When we entered the hL there multiple bids and teams winning games in the ncaat.  Runner up national champ where in the HL.   
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpo64 on August 16, 2019, 12:38:16 PM
Are you kidding?  Over all, the strength of the MVC is heads and shoulders above the HL.  And in the long run, for many years in the past and also for the future, there is no comparison.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on August 16, 2019, 01:52:19 PM
In all sports, this is absolutely true. It is a massive step up. The at larges in volleyball baseball and womens basketball tell us all we need to know but in mens basketball specifically it was a comparable jump. Remember, when we joined the HL the league was operating at or close to its ceiling before dropping off precipitously after Butler left. Right after we joined the MVC, the league showed us what it can be and proved to have a higher ceiling than the HL. That should continue now as the Valley appears to be a wide open league where parity reigns. Wichita State for all the good that they did for the MVC as an individual program was not good for the competitiveness of the league as a whole because they had suppressed the other programs. Nobody wants to invest in a program that is guaranteed to be fighting for second place which was the case in the MVC for the previous like six or seven years before Valpo joined. Across the board there is no comparison between the MVC and the HL. In mens basketball there was some comparison at the respective times of Valpo's admission into the two leagues but there's no question now which league has the higher ceiling (and floor) in the flagship sport of mens basketball.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on August 16, 2019, 02:39:33 PM
Quote from: NotBryceDrew on August 16, 2019, 08:00:34 AM
Anyone have any idea of Oren's status with the University after the release of those messages in the spring? Business as usual, beat the investigation, or did it just completely blow over?

As far as I know he is still a professor in the Communication Department.

https://www.valpo.edu/communication/about/faculty-and-staff/paul-oren/
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on August 16, 2019, 03:37:29 PM
I've been thinking about Valpo's proposed strategy on dealing with the NET and while I get the logic of it on its face I'm dubious as to whether or not it will actually work. If they take a bunch of games to artificially goose their offensive and defensive efficiency ratings the committee is going to see right through that and skip right to the next middling P5 school with a comparable NET rating. Maybe there's some room for this strategy but SOS still matters. You need good series and good wins. You need to win some of your buy games (Belmont got in because they did this as well as sweeping Murray State and Jacksonville State in the regular season) AND you need good metrics. But you need good interesting non conference series for fan interest. Trotting out old conference rivals that aren't very good for easy wins isn't a very good long term strategy for fan interest and it won't likely have the desired effect for getting more bids or improving seeding unless the team also has some strong underpinnings to buoy its case.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on August 16, 2019, 04:22:27 PM
In classes offered this fall. Paul is listed as the Prof for at least 6 classes. I haven't heard of anything that would lead me to believe he would not be with the University.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on August 16, 2019, 04:26:56 PM
Yes, I'm still there. Looking forward to a great year. Teaching a sports journalism class in the fall that we've got some great things planned for. There will be even more ESPN broadcasts this year as well.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on August 16, 2019, 04:28:21 PM
Like real honest to goodness ESPN family of network TV games carried on cable or ESPN+ stream stuff?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on August 16, 2019, 04:32:46 PM

Quote from: Pgmado on August 16, 2019, 04:26:56 PMYes, I'm still there. Looking forward to a great year. Teaching a sports journalism class in the fall that we've got some great things planned for. There will be even more ESPN broadcasts this year as well.


I would be sad if you were gone.
You ARE the information God of Valpo Basketball
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on August 16, 2019, 05:36:00 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on August 16, 2019, 04:28:21 PM
Like real honest to goodness ESPN family of network TV games carried on cable or ESPN+ stream stuff?

More sports will be covered. More grad students here for Sports Media. Excited to get more involved. Let's find the next Adam! Haha.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on August 16, 2019, 07:02:47 PM
Hmmm That's still a good sign.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on August 16, 2019, 07:35:53 PM
From 1995 to 2011, the Horizon League has sent 24 teams to the NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament.  Those clubs have produced 22 wins in those 14 years, including five "Sweet 16" appearances, making the Horizon League the only non-BCS conference with Sweet 16 participants in at least five of the last nine tournaments (2003, 2005, 2007, 2010 and 2011).
We arrived in the HL in 2008. 

Sweet 16 appearances - Butler (2003, 2007, 2010 and 2011), and Milwaukee (2005). Cleveland St. with a NCAAT win as well.
Butler appeared in the men's national championship game in both 2010 and 2011,

Bleacher reports also ranks 2011 Butler team as the 6th best mid major team ever. No MVC team appeared in top 10. 

For the MVC, just as I did with the HL I will only look at 13 years prior to Valpo's acceptance.  I will also include MVC's last two years in which we have participated. I will not include schools who are not currently in the MVC.

UNI sweet 16 in 2010.  2004-2006 mvc had two current members make the NCAAT each year.  2007 saw southern Illinois make the sweet 16.

You guys know as well as everyone that these MVC numbers don't look as good because they are missing two members.......That was not the case with the HL.   
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on August 16, 2019, 08:04:17 PM
So you include Butler to bolster the case of the HL but you did not include Creighton and Wichita State's myriad tournament wins for the MVC? Also UNI won a game back in 2015 Bradley's sweet 16 run counts in 2006 as well and let's not forget Loyola's final 4 our first year. I'm not sure what your argument was but I'm just saying tell the whole story.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on August 16, 2019, 08:12:07 PM
Simple.

The years I included Butler were years we were there and they were there. Why wouldn't I include them?  Why would I include Wichita st and  Creoghton?

I did leave out Loyola final four by mistake
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: IrishDawg on August 16, 2019, 08:41:09 PM
The MVC was and is a better league than the Horizon.  The Horizon had a better conference ranking than the MVC 4 times in the last 23 seasons on Kenpom.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on August 16, 2019, 08:57:47 PM
I guess I was only using NCAAT as a measure of success which isn't enough I know. 

With the drastic decline of the HL after Butler left I think many of us forgot how good it was when we were invited.  Take year 1 of the HL and compare to our last year in the HL.  It's kind of sad as a mid major conference fan. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on August 16, 2019, 11:50:59 PM
Oh yeah It was amazing when we were invited. I was as pumped when we were invited to the HL as I was when we were invited to the MVC. I saw it as a chance for us to recapture relive and even build on what we had in the early HL days and even extending that feeling of great high level competition and a chance at the postseason to all sports. It's a better league. A bad year in the MVC is about the same as a good year in the HL especially in the post Butler era. Once we get up to speed and competitive in all sports we will realize that difference and it will greatly benefit our program as a whole (it already has).
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on August 17, 2019, 08:15:07 AM
Quote from: oklahomamick on August 16, 2019, 07:35:53 PMI will not include schools who are not currently in the MVC.

Why then would you include Butler in the Horizon stats?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on August 17, 2019, 01:16:44 PM
Because Butler was present when we started in the HL.  I'm talking about both mvc and hl as they were when we started play. 

We played in the same league as Butler.  We never played in the same league as Wichita St. or Creighton.

07 we entered the HL, two teams that made the tourney and the league also posted 2 wins in the tourney.
18 we entered the MVC, only one team made the tourney and the league had 4 tournament wins

08 second year in the HL, only one team made it and one tournament win
19 second year in the mvc, only one team made it and 0 wins

09 third year in the HL, two teams made it and one tournament win
20 third year in the mvc, TBA

10 fourth year in the HL, only one team made it and league produced 5 wins
21 fourth year in the mvc, TBA

11 5th year in the HL, only one team made it and league produced 5 wins

It appears when we joined the HL, we joined a conference that was a multi bid league by doing it twice in our first three years.  In Valpo's first 5 years in the HL it was a multi bid league twice and a national runner up twice. 

It appears when we joined the MVC, it was has only been a 1 bid league (looks that way for the future) and it produced a final four.  Only two years of data for the mvc.

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on August 17, 2019, 03:42:22 PM
It's almost foolish to actually make this comparison because of how much college basketball changed over the ten years we were in the HL. I'm not just talking about realignment either. Thanks in large part to the MVC and how they dunked all over the RPI system in the mid-late 2000s the bigger leagues have conspired to keep leagues like the MVC down so that they don't steal bids from the larger conferences. The HL has declined for different reasons than the MVC--the MVC is being starved out of deserving bids (See: Illinois State 2016-2017 with an RPI of like 33) The HL hasn't had a team like that since we left. Also comparing the relative ceilings of programs like Bradley SIU and UNI with most Horizon teams is not even an argument. Before you say "Well SIU and UNI peaked at the Sweet 16 just like Milwaukee," remember that SIU and UNI have been strong programs multiple years and in the case of SIU under multiple coaches.) And we might just be beginning to see what teams like Missouri State and Evansville can do now that Evansville cares about basketball again. Seriously, Missouri State is good and they are very well coached. I haven't given up on the multibid dream of the MVC just yet, I still think we can do it if everyone pulls their weight and we win the games we need to win. Even so, being in a conference that prepares you to succeed in the tournament. Furthermore comparing a once in a generation meteoric rise of a mid major program like Butler to the MVC in this climate isn't fair at all. It would be like saying St Mary's shouldn't go to the Mountain West or BYU shouldn't go to the AAC if they were invited because Gonzaga, which has already left for the Big East in this scenario, was a cash cow stacking credits for the WCC. Or saying Murray State shouldn't join the MVC if they were invited because Belmont luck-boxed into an at large bid. If Belmont can get a bid, the MVC has at least five programs that are capable of doing so when operating at their peak. This argument doesn't hold water because it's irrelevant to where the two leagues are now.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on August 17, 2019, 09:04:35 PM
I'm not comparing higher ceiling at the time or where the two conferences are now. 

Simply put, 2007 HL is not that far off from 2017 MVC. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on August 17, 2019, 11:16:56 PM
I accept that but the key difference is this:

2007 HL still had its Wichita State program (Butler) and sidekick programs (Cleveland State Milwaukee Wright State) to play the Creighton role. Of course in this example Wichita State eventually left and Creighton simply declined instead of leaving as the real Creighton did in the MVC.

2017 MVC had neither of those and was STILL a better league.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on August 20, 2019, 11:39:01 AM
Quote from: VUBBFan on August 15, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
Good interview with AD Mark. Nothing earth shaking but some good information. Touched on the direction of ARC improvements. Sounds like there is a plan but gave no particulars. The best part of the interview was the explanation of the schedule buyouts and what they are using the money for. They also talked more about scheduling games.

It was good to hear details about the challenges in scheduling directly from the AD.  Also interesting that the NET rating is making scheduling even more difficult for schools like Valpo.  If there's a positive take away, it's that Valpo's scheduling difficulty is being caused by outside forces ... not by anything being done (or not done) by the basketball staff.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: IrishDawg on August 20, 2019, 02:12:08 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on August 17, 2019, 11:16:56 PM
I accept that but the key difference is this:

2007 HL still had its Wichita State program (Butler) and sidekick programs (Cleveland State Milwaukee Wright State) to play the Creighton role. Of course in this example Wichita State eventually left and Creighton simply declined instead of leaving as the real Creighton did in the MVC.

2017 MVC had neither of those and was STILL a better league.

There was no Creighton level team (or combination of teams on Creighton's level) in the Horizon.  The MVC essentially had 2 Butlers, and the Horizon had 1.  The reason the MVC in the 2018 season was so strong was because the middle and bottom parts of the league that season were so solid, which is difficult to imagine occurring consistently. It's more likely that the bottom of the league will be as bad as last year, but the top team or two of the league will be at least slightly better going forward.

The argument that the Horizon was a better league (it wasn't) is moot anyway. In their current forms, the MVC is a much better league overall, and that's what really matters.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on August 21, 2019, 10:24:24 AM
2007 HL is not far from 2017 MVC
2017 MVC is light years from 2017 MVC
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on August 23, 2019, 04:26:55 PM
Good Pod cast with Sackey.
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1165000879570862082
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on September 27, 2019, 07:52:29 AM
 Withdrawal symptoms are getting pretty bad! 4 weeks and counting. If nothing is deemed newsworthy maybe an episode where you talk to the March to the Arch podcast guys?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on September 27, 2019, 09:52:25 AM
Quote from: FWalum on September 27, 2019, 07:52:29 AM
Withdrawal symptoms are getting pretty bad! 4 weeks and counting. If nothing is deemed newsworthy maybe an episode where you talk to the March to the Arch podcast guys?

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Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on September 27, 2019, 06:24:48 PM
Quote from: EddieCabot on September 27, 2019, 09:52:25 AM
Quote from: FWalum on September 27, 2019, 07:52:29 AM
Withdrawal symptoms are getting pretty bad! 4 weeks and counting. If nothing is deemed newsworthy maybe an episode where you talk to the March to the Arch podcast guys?

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Keep up the good work Paul!  It's an amazing amount of coverage for our small University and we are fortunate to have quality coverage from guys like yourself.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on October 09, 2019, 11:49:10 AM
Hey Paul, when can we expect the annual over/under contest podcast. Getting a little excited here.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: 4throwfan on October 09, 2019, 12:12:13 PM
Paul, I posted the questions below regarding non-con scheduling on another thread (which probably wasn't the best place).  Hoping that you can address in one of the podcasts, or here.  Thanks,

pgmado,

I finally got to listen to the podcast with Coach Gore, and had a couple of questions, and hopefully you already know the answer without having to go back to the staff.

By the way, I really do enjoy the podcasts.

1.  Coach Gore mentioned a couple of times something about posting for games.  I assume that non-conference scheduling is a combination of MTE's, conference match-ups (e.g., ACC BG10 challenge), networking, and some sort of board posting.  My question is on the last item.  Is there some sort of community board that the coaches interact on?  If so, what does that look like?  Seems like this is a no-brainer that there would be such a thing.

2.  When two teams agree on a home-and-home, are both dates set when the contract is signed?  Seems like it would be more of a range.  Seems like they would use a standard form contract of some sort where the teams simply fill in the blanks for dates and buyout amount - is that right?

Thanks,
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on October 11, 2019, 01:40:21 PM
Quote from: VUBBFan on October 09, 2019, 11:49:10 AM
Hey Paul, when can we expect the annual over/under contest podcast. Getting a little excited here.

It will come after the exhibition game. Too many unknowns at the moment to effectively set lines.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on October 11, 2019, 01:42:12 PM
Quote from: 4throwfan on October 09, 2019, 12:12:13 PM
Paul, I posted the questions below regarding non-con scheduling on another thread (which probably wasn't the best place).  Hoping that you can address in one of the podcasts, or here.  Thanks,

pgmado,

I finally got to listen to the podcast with Coach Gore, and had a couple of questions, and hopefully you already know the answer without having to go back to the staff.

By the way, I really do enjoy the podcasts.

1.  Coach Gore mentioned a couple of times something about posting for games.  I assume that non-conference scheduling is a combination of MTE's, conference match-ups (e.g., ACC BG10 challenge), networking, and some sort of board posting.  My question is on the last item.  Is there some sort of community board that the coaches interact on?  If so, what does that look like?  Seems like this is a no-brainer that there would be such a thing.

2.  When two teams agree on a home-and-home, are both dates set when the contract is signed?  Seems like it would be more of a range.  Seems like they would use a standard form contract of some sort where the teams simply fill in the blanks for dates and buyout amount - is that right?

Thanks,

I'd imagine there is some sort of data feed website the coaches have access to. I've never seen it, but I imagine there's an online community where coaches can reach out.

I believe you're correct about the dates being in a range.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on October 24, 2019, 07:42:10 PM
Got another good one to listen to.

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1187514096125652992
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on October 25, 2019, 10:20:46 AM
Thinking back to last years main problem--we couldn't hit the broadside of a barn from the 3.  That was mostly without Ryan. So his comments about who else--besides Ryan--was the best shooter, involved two guys who weren't on the team last year (Siggie and Eron) and one who has worked very hard to improve his game (Javon)  If they are as good as advertised and Ryan stays healthy, we will be hard to stop.  Can't wait.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on October 26, 2019, 08:03:50 AM
I tend to agree Valpo could be tough to stop offensively...I am very concerned that Valpo is going to have just as tough a time stopping their opponent on the other end.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: justducky on October 26, 2019, 10:25:54 AM
Quote from: M on October 26, 2019, 08:03:50 AM
I tend to agree Valpo could be tough to stop offensively...I am very concerned that Valpo is going to have just as tough a time stopping their opponent on the other end.

Sorolla and Lavender were decent defenders but all of the others will be replaced by players who could or should be net improvements. Yes- much depends on our freshmen and McMillan but I am optimistic about our floor defensive rotations and depth when all have learned their roles.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on October 26, 2019, 02:37:17 PM
I'm not too optimistic about this teams chances, but the program might be in a healthier spot then it was last season in terms of chemistry and the players within it. If you listened to the podcast with eron Gordon, he eluded to guys pretty much having one foot in and one foot out of the program last season... a bunch of our kids were being recruited by other programs midseason. Cough... smits... bakari...cough....

We are better off without them long-term, especially with so many young players.

I'm fairly concerned about our interior defense... we need guys to play team defense to get stops. This team has the potential to possibly pull off surprise wins but I think it will be definitely up and down. I'm expecting a bottom half of the Valley finish, but for the arrow to be pointing up at the end of the season, as long as we don't suffer any key transfers, the future will be fine. Just my  :twocents: for whatever it's worth. I'm excited for the season to start.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on October 28, 2019, 01:01:24 AM
But what does that mean for Matt's future? If we have another bottom half finish even with the arrow pointing up does the program commit to a contract extension? I would be concerned that another bottom half finish will make the fans even more restless and that they will demand change even if the seeds of progress have been sown. Will the administration remain patient? Is it prudent to do so? I'm raising these questions without answers because I don't know them. I wouldn't want to see any forward momentum for the program get squashed especially since I believe that this team has the potential to be good as it matures and comes together but at the same time how much progress is enough progress for a coach that has shown absolutely nothing without Alec Peters? (Sorry to be so blunt and harsh but it's true).
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on October 28, 2019, 08:20:00 AM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on October 28, 2019, 01:01:24 AM
But what does that mean for Matt's future? If we have another bottom half finish even with the arrow pointing up does the program commit to a contract extension? I would be concerned that another bottom half finish will make the fans even more restless and that they will demand change even if the seeds of progress have been sown. Will the administration remain patient? Is it prudent to do so? I'm raising these questions without answers because I don't know them. I wouldn't want to see any forward momentum for the program get squashed especially since I believe that this team has the potential to be good as it matures and comes together but at the same time how much progress is enough progress for a coach that has shown absolutely nothing without Alec Peters? (Sorry to be so blunt and harsh but it's true).

First off, I expect a top half finish.  What if it doesn't happen and, say, we finish 6th or 7th having lost three games by single digits?  If Matt is let go expect the transfer gates to open WIDE  Matt has now put together a squad that at least op the surface appears to be "his type of players".  They seem close and probably feel as close to the coaches as to each other.  If he is gone then probably so is Coach Gore and probably so is five or six of the team.  It would be a last place finish again for several years and the collapse of the program.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on October 28, 2019, 12:17:04 PM
Quote from: vu72 on October 28, 2019, 08:20:00 AM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on October 28, 2019, 01:01:24 AM
But what does that mean for Matt's future? If we have another bottom half finish even with the arrow pointing up does the program commit to a contract extension? I would be concerned that another bottom half finish will make the fans even more restless and that they will demand change even if the seeds of progress have been sown. Will the administration remain patient? Is it prudent to do so? I'm raising these questions without answers because I don't know them. I wouldn't want to see any forward momentum for the program get squashed especially since I believe that this team has the potential to be good as it matures and comes together but at the same time how much progress is enough progress for a coach that has shown absolutely nothing without Alec Peters? (Sorry to be so blunt and harsh but it's true).

First off, I expect a top half finish.  What if it doesn't happen and, say, we finish 6th or 7th having lost three games by single digits?  If Matt is let go expect the transfer gates to open WIDE  Matt has now put together a squad that at least op the surface appears to be "his type of players".  They seem close and probably feel as close to the coaches as to each other.  If he is gone then probably so is Coach Gore and probably so is five or six of the team.  It would be a last place finish again for several years and the collapse of the program.

I'm with 72 on this.  A coaching change would also stop the recruiting momentum that's been picking up.  I really doubt a change gets made unless this season goes south in a big way.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on October 28, 2019, 04:06:06 PM
For better or worst, Matt made it clear where he thought the issues with last team lay. Team cohesion and players that didn't fit in the dynamic he wanted. That will not be available to him this year so if we see the same issues emerge you're gonna have a hard time not looking direct at coaching. Now, if they still struggle but it's clearly due to a young team and not whatever mental collapse happened last year than I say you keep him on and give him more time but if we have a pretty clear repeat of last year than it's gonna be hard to not say he's not ready for this level.

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: SanityLost17 on October 28, 2019, 07:16:12 PM
I would say extend him on a short term contract.   I want to see where he is going with this team all the way through JFL and Sackey's senior seasons.   If we are not on an upward trajectory by that point then it is never going to happen.

Somebody said, "he hasn't done anything" since Alec Peters.    I don't know about all that.  Before the injury bug last year we were really coming together the 1st half of the conference season.   We had a few home games there with a skeleton crew that we barely lost that would have kept us out of Thursday.

If you think a fully healthy Valpo team would have still played on Thursday last year you are ABSOLUTELY stupid....and that is with a team whose minutes consisted mostly of freshman and upperclassman who didn't want to play here anymore.   
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: elephtheria47 on October 28, 2019, 08:22:10 PM
It may hurt short term, as noone wants to commit to a coach in limbo, but I agree that ML should get a short term extension unless he blows this season's doors off and then make it long term. ML is behind an 8 ball with our facilities and our higher academic standards, he needs to find niche players. High school players now have physical evidence what style of basketball ML plays and how they will fit into it. I too would like to see Sackey and JFL mature and get through their senior years. It's a guard's game and they are two young great ones. I believe this year will be around 500 (too many question marks at the 5, not enough consistency from returning players) but it's certainly easy to see this team moving to the upper echelon in the next few years as the team grows. We have young talent. Does that happen a year early? It's possible, and it's also possible this team falls off the rail like last year, not that I expect either scenario to actually happen. We'll be in for a fun season and after what we went through last year, that will be enjoyable.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpolaw on October 29, 2019, 12:00:07 PM
If we have another mediocre/bottom half finish, then what would be the reason for extending ML to a short term contract?  Bryce and Alec Peters have been gone for quite some time and we haven't exactly torn it up since then.  Are we going to accept being mediocre?  I certainly hope not. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on October 29, 2019, 01:07:40 PM

Quote from: valpolaw on October 29, 2019, 12:00:07 PMIf we have another mediocre/bottom half finish, then what would be the reason for extending ML to a short term contract?  Bryce and Alec Peters have been gone for quite some time and we haven't exactly torn it up since then.  Are we going to accept being mediocre?  I certainly hope not.


Instant fix to not being mediocre - go back to Horizon league and pick up 3 to 5 more wins per season.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpo64 on October 29, 2019, 02:14:39 PM
Bryce and Alec did not compete in the MVC either so lets not start comparing success stories based on that fact.  We are not really going to start speculating on a new contract for Coach Lottich already, are we?  We haven't even played our first game yet!  Lets go back to the to the Summit League for instant success then maybe everybody will be happy.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on October 29, 2019, 04:56:20 PM
Another entertaining Pod-Cast. The years over/under episode. Trying to make my choices, but probably always feeling overly optimistic like Todd.

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1189246797992136707
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on October 29, 2019, 09:03:33 PM
Quote from: VUBBFan on October 29, 2019, 04:56:20 PM
Another entertaining Pod-Cast. The years over/under episode. Trying to make my choices, but probably always feeling overly optimistic like Todd.

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1189246797992136707

I listened and tried to track the questions and responses.  I feel like Todd went on record for each over/under, but I have 4 or 5 where I don't think Paul responded.  Maybe he can clarify when he posts the over/under to the board.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on October 29, 2019, 11:31:19 PM
Quote from: VUBBFan on October 29, 2019, 04:56:20 PM
Another entertaining Pod-Cast. The years over/under episode. Trying to make my choices, but probably always feeling overly optimistic like Todd.

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1189246797992136707


Todd and Paul were great.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on October 30, 2019, 08:33:05 AM
I was under the impression the closed door scrimmage/game against UIC was to take place yesterday (10/29).  Any word on how the team faired?  I know that PO mentioned on USH that one of the players tweaked an ankle in practice but played in the scrimmage (therefore likely not a bad sprain).  Thought that was a little confusing because PO said he recorded the podcast on Monday (10/28) so the scrimmage obviously was on Monday???

Just trying to fill time before the game . . .
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on October 30, 2019, 09:33:47 AM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on October 30, 2019, 08:33:05 AM
I was under the impression the closed door scrimmage/game against UIC was to take place yesterday (10/29).  Any word on how the team faired?  I know that PO mentioned on USH that one of the players tweaked an ankle in practice but played in the scrimmage (therefore likely not a bad sprain).  Thought that was a little confusing because PO said he recorded the podcast on Monday (10/28) so the scrimmage obviously was on Monday???

Just trying to fill time before the game . . .

The scrimmage was on Sunday. Siggy didn't play because of an ankle. Sounds like he's good to go now. I don't know many details about Sunday and those that I do know were embargoed.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on October 30, 2019, 09:45:01 AM
Quote from: Pgmado on October 30, 2019, 09:33:47 AM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on October 30, 2019, 08:33:05 AM
I was under the impression the closed door scrimmage/game against UIC was to take place yesterday (10/29).  Any word on how the team faired?  I know that PO mentioned on USH that one of the players tweaked an ankle in practice but played in the scrimmage (therefore likely not a bad sprain).  Thought that was a little confusing because PO said he recorded the podcast on Monday (10/28) so the scrimmage obviously was on Monday???

Just trying to fill time before the game . . .

The scrimmage was on Sunday. Siggy didn't play because of an ankle. Sounds like he's good to go now. I don't know many details about Sunday and those that I do know were embargoed.

Thanks Paul.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on October 30, 2019, 10:04:18 AM
I thought it interesting that Todd thought that Loyola would struggle because of the loss of two high major guards.  As it turns out Loyola just lost to D2 Indianapolis.

http://loyolaphoenix.com/2019/10/loyola-mens-basketball-drops-exhibition-opener-to-d-ii-indianapolis/
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: SanityLost17 on October 30, 2019, 10:45:05 AM
Quote from: valpolaw on October 29, 2019, 12:00:07 PM
If we have another mediocre/bottom half finish, then what would be the reason for extending ML to a short term contract?  Bryce and Alec Peters have been gone for quite some time and we haven't exactly torn it up since then.  Are we going to accept being mediocre?  I certainly hope not.

I think our Freshman/Sophomore class might really be good here in a few years.   Lottich brought them in and I want to see what he can do with them.   I will be the 1st to admit that Lottich struck out in his 1st go around at recruiting, and we all know he has had some growing pains on the offensive side of the ball.

I am looking for 3 things this year. 
1. Improved offensive flow, and more elaborate set plays out of timeouts and out of bounce. 
2. Improvement of returning players to start the year AND improvement of freshman from beginning of year to end of year.
3. A relatively healthy season.  Injuries happen, but the last few years have been bad, Lottich needs to learn when to back-off practice intensity.   

I don't think we are going to be great this year, but I think we could finish 7th place and still call this season a success if our younger players are improving and our coach's offensive game plan is improving.   If that happens and Lottich can find a quality big to add to the team next year, we would be fools not to give him a short term extension to see what he can do.     
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on October 30, 2019, 01:10:15 PM
Quote from: vu72 on October 30, 2019, 10:04:18 AMI thought it interesting that Todd thought that Loyola would struggle because of the loss of two high major guards.  As it turns out Loyola just lost to D2 Indianapolis. http://loyolaphoenix.com/2019/10/loyola-mens-basketball-drops-exhibition-opener-to-d-ii-indianapolis/



That's not good for league perception. Also makes me worry that that final four run was just a flash in the pan and they're back to being mediocre.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpo64 on October 30, 2019, 02:06:54 PM
I said it before...I believe their Final Four  run was a flash in the pan.  They were not good their first few years in the MVC and while they received a lot of publicity after that run, namely that they were building a powerhouse Mid-Major program, that was not really the case.  They are not the face of the MVC , at least not this year.  I think that they will always be in the top tier of contending teams in the MVC because of their location.   Porter Moser is way overrated as a Coach.  The Chicago press went "ga ga" when they made their Final Four run but after all, they have not had much to cheer about when it comes to Chicago area college basketball successes in recent years.  That run put them on the map like Bryce's shot put us on the map.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on October 31, 2019, 05:48:29 PM
Darn, is it only on Spotify now?  I cannot support that service.  I work for SiriusXM + Pandora :).
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on October 31, 2019, 08:41:13 PM
Quote from: valpotx on October 31, 2019, 05:48:29 PM
Darn, is it only on Spotify now?  I cannot support that service.  I work for SiriusXM + Pandora :).

No. Apple Pods, SoundCloud, Spotify. Pretty sure it's on GooglePodcasts as well. We're worldwide!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on November 01, 2019, 01:48:13 AM
Quote from: EddieCabot on October 28, 2019, 12:17:04 PM
Quote from: vu72 on October 28, 2019, 08:20:00 AM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on October 28, 2019, 01:01:24 AM
But what does that mean for Matt's future? If we have another bottom half finish even with the arrow pointing up does the program commit to a contract extension? I would be concerned that another bottom half finish will make the fans even more restless and that they will demand change even if the seeds of progress have been sown. Will the administration remain patient? Is it prudent to do so? I'm raising these questions without answers because I don't know them. I wouldn't want to see any forward momentum for the program get squashed especially since I believe that this team has the potential to be good as it matures and comes together but at the same time how much progress is enough progress for a coach that has shown absolutely nothing without Alec Peters? (Sorry to be so blunt and harsh but it's true).

First off, I expect a top half finish.  What if it doesn't happen and, say, we finish 6th or 7th having lost three games by single digits?  If Matt is let go expect the transfer gates to open WIDE  Matt has now put together a squad that at least op the surface appears to be "his type of players".  They seem close and probably feel as close to the coaches as to each other.  If he is gone then probably so is Coach Gore and probably so is five or six of the team.  It would be a last place finish again for several years and the collapse of the program.

I'm with 72 on this.  A coaching change would also stop the recruiting momentum that's been picking up.  I really doubt a change gets made unless this season goes south in a big way.

Wouldn't this be the same reaction we had last year when we saw many of the players transfer. It was all doom and gloom until we saw that ML could bring in a bunch of good recruits with the already promising red shirt players that had been waiting in the wings. If ML is fired shouldn't we reserve judgement to see who is hired as coach and what kind of players the new coach can bring in if not the first year maybe the second or third? Let's not call the cupboard bare when we don't even know what might be in the cupboard in the next few years.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on November 01, 2019, 01:53:23 AM
Quote from: vu72 on October 30, 2019, 10:04:18 AM
I thought it interesting that Todd thought that Loyola would struggle because of the loss of two high major guards.  As it turns out Loyola just lost to D2 Indianapolis.

http://loyolaphoenix.com/2019/10/loyola-mens-basketball-drops-exhibition-opener-to-d-ii-indianapolis/

I don't think anyone should discount the annoyingly strong UIndy Greyhounds to upset Div 1 teams. They are a very powerful D2 program.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on November 01, 2019, 01:57:39 AM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on October 30, 2019, 10:45:05 AMImproved offensive flow, and more elaborate set plays out of timeouts and out of bounce. 

"Out of bounce" is what happens to my deflated friends by the end of the week.  ;)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on November 14, 2019, 09:36:40 PM
I think it's time for another episode.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on November 15, 2019, 10:19:10 AM
Quote from: VUBBFan on November 14, 2019, 09:36:40 PM
I think it's time for another episode.

Coming on Monday. Bronchitis wiped me out last week and I want to see North Dakota game before a new episode.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: NativeCheesehead on November 15, 2019, 10:22:48 AM
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Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on November 16, 2019, 09:21:05 AM
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Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VALPO LI on November 22, 2019, 09:34:35 AM
Guess who's back!!!!
Paul is back with another Union Street Hoops!!! :thumbsup:


https://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/podcast-union-street-hoops-genesis-exodus/article_14533b7e-0caa-11ea-a21c-677d26d2bed3.html
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: zvillehaze on December 12, 2019, 12:59:22 PM

New podcast came out late last week with a nice interview with Casey Schmidt.  Interesting information about his time at Arizona and how he returned to Valpo U.  I got to see Arizona up close during Casey's freshman year and he's right about the talent level they had on that team.  Good listen.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on December 23, 2019, 10:12:57 PM
Another new podcast is out.  I listen to them all and am usually very complimentary.   However, this one was a bit lacking.  Paul admitted he didn't understand the KenPom ratings (please, someone have your middle school student explain to him how probabilities work), but he then spent 30 minutes reading metrics from KenPom's site.  For those who haven't listened yet, I'll let you know Paul thinks the perception of the team would be more positive if they had won more games.  #SpoilerAlert
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on December 23, 2019, 11:38:31 PM
Isn't that obvious? I mean think about it. If Evansville hadn't have had that bad stretch where they lost to SMU ECU and (I think) somebody else they might have been in the conversation for an at large bid even with the egg they laid down in Jacksonville Alabama or at least that game might have had a chance of being Q1. As it is that's not the case and it's probably going to be Q3. And I promise I'd be singing a different tune about this Valpo club if they had beaten Cincinnati and Arkansas even though they had other down moments (Nevada EMU Charlotte) they would have been a heck of a lot easier to forget with those two wins.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on December 24, 2019, 10:28:20 AM
Quote from: EddieCabot on December 23, 2019, 10:12:57 PMAnother new podcast is out.  I listen to them all and am usually very complimentary.   However, this one was a bit lacking.  Paul admitted he didn't understand the KenPom ratings (please, someone have your middle school student explain to him how probabilities work), but he then spent 30 minutes reading metrics from KenPom's site.  For those who haven't listened yet, I'll let you know Paul thinks the perception of the team would be more positive if they had won more games.  #SpoilerAlert



The KenPom numbers are a snapshot in time based upon how the teams perform relative to all 353 teams and the projected records are based on the probability of winning given these numbers. As the season progresses, these numbers will change. The more games that are played and how well each team does offensively and defensively against the strength of their opponents will more accurately reflect which teams are good and which teams are average and which teams suck. So it's way too early to rely upon the projected placing within any conference. KenPom uses the Box Scores of each of 353 teams and he ranks them by their Adj.EM,(Adjusted Efficiency Margin= AdjO minus AdjD) which is:


KenPom Rankings based on AdjEM:
Quote
Offensive efficiency
Points scored per 100 offensive possessions.



Defensive efficiency
Points allowed per 100 defensive possessions.



In order to compute efficiency, we need to know how to compute possessions.
Possessions
We can estimate possessions very well from box score stats by using this formula.

FGA-OR+TO+0.475xFTA


For each team, possessions are counted for the team and their opponents, and then averaged.

Efficiency gives us broad view of how well the offense or defense functions, but we can break efficiency into what Dean Oliver dubbed the Four Factors. Shooting, rebounding, turnovers, and free throws provide the basic components of efficiency.



Possession Stats 101 | The kenpom.com blog
https://kenpom.com/blog/possession-stats-101/
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on December 24, 2019, 10:45:51 AM
Paul states in his podcast,

Quote"If Valpo had beaten [in close games that could have been won] Arkansas and Cincy, how different are we talking about the team? ...If they beat Ark and Cincy, I'm telling you that they are good. So that line is so thin right now. So if Valpo had beaten Cincy and beaten Ark are we predicting them to finish 7th? Probably not, we're probably predicting them to finish fourth."

IF Valpo had won those games, KenPom's numbers would have reflected that and in all likelihood KenPom's ranking would have predicted us to finish in fourth place or better. But Valpo didn't win those games and what is, is.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on December 24, 2019, 01:59:06 PM
Quote from: EddieCabot on December 23, 2019, 10:12:57 PM
Another new podcast is out.  I listen to them all and am usually very complimentary.   However, this one was a bit lacking.  Paul admitted he didn't understand the KenPom ratings (please, someone have your middle school student explain to him how probabilities work), but he then spent 30 minutes reading metrics from KenPom's site.  For those who haven't listened yet, I'll let you know Paul thinks the perception of the team would be more positive if they had won more games.  #SpoilerAlert

Fair assessment. Had two guests lined up but scheduling didn't work out because of holidays. Scrambled at last second. Went with KenPom as guide. Still fighting sinus infection so I was coughing up a lung during the recording. Good editing to get those out of there.

Point is, KenPom numbers are odd. Northern Iowa predicted to win 17 out of 18 games, but also predicted to finish 13-5 on same site. Almost every game is predicted to be within one or two possessions.

I'm interested what the outside convo about Valpo would be had they pulled off the Cincy and Arkansas wins. As it is, Valpo in top half of the league in NET.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: covufan on December 24, 2019, 03:30:27 PM
Haven't seen the kenpom numbers, but having UNI above 50% chance of winning in 17 if 18 games may equate to 13-5 season prediction. Each game prediction is set at a %, then added together for season prediction. 18 games each at 66.67% chance of winning would be 18-0 when adding up each win. But add up the season and the prediction is 12-6.


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Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on December 24, 2019, 05:30:44 PM
I have a vested interest in Valpo winning the league.  IF Valpo falls out of contention, I'll look at the rest of field in terms of match-ups for the conference tournament.  Once the conference tournament begins, no one but Valpo matters again.  If Valpo loses in the tournament, I'll pull for the best remaining team.  Simple.   

BTW, this should be common sense to any true Valpo fan. If someone thinks otherwise, I would have to question their loyalty to the program.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: GoldenCrusader87 on December 24, 2019, 11:06:57 PM
Not a bad episode - I enjoyed it. Here's to hoping Paul's feeling better.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on December 25, 2019, 12:55:34 AM
Quote from: GoldenCrusader87 on December 24, 2019, 11:06:57 PM
Not a bad episode - I enjoyed it. Here's to hoping Paul's feeling better.

I appreciate that. I'm going in for a CT scan on my sinuses in mid-January. Just haven't been able to shake this damn thing.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on December 25, 2019, 10:51:09 AM
Quote from: Pgmado on December 25, 2019, 12:55:34 AM
Quote from: GoldenCrusader87 on December 24, 2019, 11:06:57 PM
Not a bad episode - I enjoyed it. Here's to hoping Paul's feeling better.

I appreciate that. I'm going in for a CT scan on my sinuses in mid-January. Just haven't been able to shake this damn thing.

Sinus infections are the worst!  Hope you're feeling better soon!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpo64 on December 26, 2019, 04:02:46 PM
I like my simple approach to the rankings:   If we win more MVC games than anyone else and lose less than anyone else, we will win the Conference.  Period.  I mean, you can bank on that 100%.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on January 08, 2020, 01:25:09 AM
Feeling down about Tuesday's loss to Southern Illinois?

Jump into the time machine as Aaron Leavitt and I examine Valparaiso's All-Decade Team. We ended up picking the 13 best single-seasons over the last 10 years without repeating a player. (Alec Peters is clearly the best PF, but which version of Alec was the best?). This was an enjoyable episode to discuss.

https://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/podcast-union-street-hoops-the-all-decade-episode/article_dd123568-3182-11ea-b217-932355740bc3.html#tracking-source=home-the-latest
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on January 08, 2020, 03:53:07 AM
The moment Aaron says "you have to specify your Moussas" has to be the highlight of this podcast.

I also have to say that the greatness of Alec Peters his junior year ruined it for his senior year when he got hurt also because Shane Hammink was so devastated by Alec's absence that he shut it down in the HL tournament in Detroit. I was so disappointed in the shooting against Milwaukee since with Shane & Tevonn they were still really talented. That hurt the most compared to expectations. Also because Bryce left after Alec Peters' junior year and doesn't seem to want to come back to coach Valpo.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on January 08, 2020, 12:42:02 PM

Quote from: bbtds on January 08, 2020, 03:53:07 AMThe moment Aaron says "you have to specify your Moussas" has to be the highlight of this podcast. I also have to say that the greatness of Alec Peters his junior year ruined it for his senior year when he got hurt also because Shane Hammink was so devastated by Alec's absence that he shut it down in the HL tournament in Detroit. I was so disappointed in the shooting against Milwaukee since with Shane & Tevonn they were still really talented. That hurt the most compared to expectations. Also because Bryce left after Alec Peters' junior year and doesn't seem to want to come back to coach Valpo.


If I remember correctly, Shane was battling a bad case of the flu. He could hardly move.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on January 08, 2020, 03:20:32 PM

Latest episode was a great trip down memory lane!  Fun to look back on all the great players Valpo had during the decade and amazing to recall all the successful seasons they had. 

The real shame is that both Ryan and Alec didn't get more opportunities to display their talents in the NCAA tournament.  As Paul mentioned, the '15-'16 team would likely have gone to the Sweet 16 or beyond.  Unfortunately, they got knocked off by Green Bay in the first Motor City Sadness and then were snubbed by the selection committee.  Of course, the next season could have been even better, but was derailed by the NCAA (Carter), the NCAA again (Jubril) and injury (Peters).

I know they were focused on identifying the decade's best players, but I think they could have spent more time discussing the what might have been the biggest event of the decade ... the move to the MVC.  Despite the early struggles, I think the move will be great in the long term.  Transition is tough ... look how other mid-majors like Creighton, Xavier, Butler and Wichita State had challenges when taking big steps up in conference.  Of those teams, only Xavier has been able to break through and win a conference championship.  It takes some time to adjust.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on January 08, 2020, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: VUBBFan on January 08, 2020, 12:42:02 PM

Quote from: bbtds on January 08, 2020, 03:53:07 AMThe moment Aaron says "you have to specify your Moussas" has to be the highlight of this podcast. I also have to say that the greatness of Alec Peters his junior year ruined it for his senior year when he got hurt also because Shane Hammink was so devastated by Alec's absence that he shut it down in the HL tournament in Detroit. I was so disappointed in the shooting against Milwaukee since with Shane & Tevonn they were still really talented. That hurt the most compared to expectations. Also because Bryce left after Alec Peters' junior year and doesn't seem to want to come back to coach Valpo.


If I remember correctly, Shane was battling a bad case of the flu. He could hardly move.

I really think it was more the "injured Alec flu" that was bothering Shane then. Some people tried to explain it off. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on January 16, 2020, 05:43:06 PM
Still waiting for this week's Union Street Hoops, but this podcast will suffice. Nice job Paul.

https://twitter.com/FatherHarry1/status/1217898694474960900
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on January 16, 2020, 10:32:20 PM
I hope he stays and works on his game for another year at least (selfishly I want him to stay two more for obvious reasons) I wouldn't be surprised to see him at least test the waters this year and (hopefully) come back for his Junior year. If he does that, keeps developing his overall game, and works on\develops his outside shot, he is a first round LOCK.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on January 18, 2020, 04:54:55 AM
The one positive at this point with JFL, is that he would have to sit out a year, after the huge year he is having.  His ideal time to leave was probably after last season, due to expected professional ambitions.  If anything, my guess is that he graduates early.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on January 19, 2020, 05:15:15 PM
Part two of Harry's podcast on Javon and AJ Green

https://twitter.com/AlBillets/status/1219034805779693569
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on January 19, 2020, 10:02:41 PM
Quote from: VUBBFan on January 19, 2020, 05:15:15 PM
Part two of Harry's podcast on Javon and AJ Green

https://twitter.com/AlBillets/status/1219034805779693569

Interesting and informative podcast. Great job by PO.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on January 24, 2020, 03:37:17 PM
A must listen to for Valpo fans.

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1220809829507379200
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on January 29, 2020, 01:40:31 PM
I know there has been a lot of Kobecentric stories in the last several days, but I wanted to get a sense of the impact he had on the Valparaiso athletics universe. NBA broadcaster Adam Amin joins the episode as well as Bryce Drew, Erik Buggs and Grace Hales. I think there's something for a little bit of everyone here.

https://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/podcast-union-street-hoops-the-kobe-episode/article_6ea98cfc-4163-11ea-87d6-0bf4d5d994f8.html
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on January 29, 2020, 02:18:20 PM
Those are some big names.  Cant wait to listen.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on February 11, 2020, 02:21:33 PM
Just listened to the latest USH "State of the Program." Tarrance Price's comments on this team and Lottich are excellent. Wow.  Chris Sparks also chimed in at the end. Worth listening to.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 11, 2020, 02:58:50 PM
Listening right now... I agree with a lot of what Tarrance Price is saying... What is striking me though is that Paul says that people don't think that Valpo brings in good opposition? That's true enough for the non conference schedule but if they're saying that about our conference slate that's just absolutely ignorant and I don't know how you overcome that level of stupidity.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on February 11, 2020, 03:04:40 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on February 11, 2020, 02:58:50 PMWhat is striking me though is that Paul says that people don't think that Valpo brings in good opposition? That's true enough for the non conference schedule but if they're saying that about our conference slate that's just absolutely ignorant and I don't know how you overcome that level of stupidity.

Non-conference schedule was my intent with this line. I've argued in the past that the conference slate is now as good as it has ever been.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 11, 2020, 03:10:55 PM
Price makes a very good defense of Lottich here I have to say... A solid team on the verge seems pretty accurate... It is SO HARD to maintain patience but maybe it's the right play... I really hope we'll get a really strong reason to get behind him and an indication of things to come in these final 6 7 8 games... Please Matt... Give us something... I agree that they fight hard but I wish we didn't have to do that all the time. Why can't we just stop digging these holes and take control and win games? Don't tell me that about Domask... That's just going to make me dislike the guys that transferred that much more... We'd be a contender with an insanely bright future with him in tow... That said we do have building blocks to compete in a tough conference... JFL Clay Krikke are examples of that... A strong core is indeed taking shape... And we have more reinforcements coming in next year...
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on February 11, 2020, 04:25:16 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on February 11, 2020, 03:10:55 PM
Price makes a very good defense of Lottich here I have to say... A solid team on the verge seems pretty accurate... It is SO HARD to maintain patience but maybe it's the right play... I really hope we'll get a really strong reason to get behind him and an indication of things to come in these final 6 7 8 games... Please Matt... Give us something... I agree that they fight hard but I wish we didn't have to do that all the time. Why can't we just stop digging these holes and take control and win games? Don't tell me that about Domask... That's just going to make me dislike the guys that transferred that much more... We'd be a contender with an insanely bright future with him in tow... That said we do have building blocks to compete in a tough conference... JFL Clay Krikke are examples of that... A strong core is indeed taking shape... And we have more reinforcements coming in next year...

Well, 1314, I have to say that you do stick to your guns and argue your point with a very logical conclusion. You never really waiver from your original message and have some how persuaded many to believe you are right...........until Valpo loses a tight game and then you abandon your thinking totally. :-)

I'm sure glad Mr. Price has grounded you again you are back in the fold feeling that Coach Lottich deserves his chance to prove he can win. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: NativeCheesehead on February 11, 2020, 04:33:56 PM
Some great points by TP. Here's something to consider though as he talks about this team going into next year. Someone we're counting on for our 8-9 man rotation next year, statistically speaking, is going to transfer. Who, and how many?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 11, 2020, 04:49:40 PM
Quote from: bbtds on February 11, 2020, 04:25:16 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on February 11, 2020, 03:10:55 PMPrice makes a very good defense of Lottich here I have to say... A solid team on the verge seems pretty accurate... It is SO HARD to maintain patience but maybe it's the right play... I really hope we'll get a really strong reason to get behind him and an indication of things to come in these final 6 7 8 games... Please Matt... Give us something... I agree that they fight hard but I wish we didn't have to do that all the time. Why can't we just stop digging these holes and take control and win games? Don't tell me that about Domask... That's just going to make me dislike the guys that transferred that much more... We'd be a contender with an insanely bright future with him in tow... That said we do have building blocks to compete in a tough conference... JFL Clay Krikke are examples of that... A strong core is indeed taking shape... And we have more reinforcements coming in next year...
Well, 1314, I have to say that you do stick to your guns and argue your point with a very logical conclusion. You never really waiver from your original message and have some how persuaded many to believe you are right...........until Valpo loses a tight game and then you abandon your thinking totally. :-) I'm sure glad Mr. Price has grounded you again you are back in the fold feeling that Coach Lottich deserves his chance to prove he can win.



I try to remain consistent. But yes the emotion of another close loss where better stretches of play could have easily prevented it gets to me and I need to sound off because I come from the generation of fans where losing just wasn't a thing that we did very often. Where winning the conference was a regular occurrence and top four finishes were a given 80+% of the time. But as much as I get frustrated with the Lottich era and the issues that have plagued the program I have never been anti-Matt Lottich. I want to believe but that goes two ways. I need reasons to believe and in the heat of another loss it's hard to look at the positives and what is being built. My problem to use an old metaphor  is that instead of eating the hot dog and being happy because hot dogs taste good I'm watching the manufacturing process which makes the product being assembled harder to enjoy. I've never been the most patient person so extended struggles are hard to accept. I am glad that we have more patient people than I making decisions. You want me as a fan but you don't want me anywhere near a position of influence because I would have made a reactionary decision on Lottich last year which let's be honest probably would have set the program back.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: GoldenCrusader87 on February 11, 2020, 05:33:23 PM
I cannot find the link to the post game press conference from the Loyola game that others have referred to.

Can someone post the link? I'm interested in Matt's comments about Gentile arena and the Gameday atmosphere.

I give him props if he did do that.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on February 11, 2020, 06:16:04 PM
Quote from: Just Sayin on February 11, 2020, 02:21:33 PM
Just listened to the latest USH "State of the Program." Tarrance Price's comments on this team and Lottich are excellent. Wow.  Chris Sparks also chimed in at the end. Worth listening to.

100% agree with Chris Sparks that we are nightmarishly bad on defense for a good portion of the game.  This is my single biggest frustration with this years team.  I felt that our defense was better last year, which is truly saying something.

Notice how Sparks states by the 4th or 5th pass you know you have a wide open 3 or a layup . . .  I mean if a simpleton like me can see that the coaching staff must have a handle on this.  I'm so glad he brought that up because so few were engaging me on that topic and I don't remember USH or the pressers mentioning defense a ton.

Truly, we tighten up on defense a little and we starting putting up more W's.  Oklahoma keeps crying to me about "run and gun" when we are watching the games but man alive it's hard to run after a made layup or three pointer.

DEFENSE . . .
DEFENSE . . . . . .
DEFENSE . . . . . . . . .
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on February 11, 2020, 07:23:11 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on February 11, 2020, 04:49:40 PM
Quote from: bbtds on February 11, 2020, 04:25:16 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on February 11, 2020, 03:10:55 PMPrice makes a very good defense of Lottich here I have to say... A solid team on the verge seems pretty accurate... It is SO HARD to maintain patience but maybe it's the right play... I really hope we'll get a really strong reason to get behind him and an indication of things to come in these final 6 7 8 games... Please Matt... Give us something... I agree that they fight hard but I wish we didn't have to do that all the time. Why can't we just stop digging these holes and take control and win games? Don't tell me that about Domask... That's just going to make me dislike the guys that transferred that much more... We'd be a contender with an insanely bright future with him in tow... That said we do have building blocks to compete in a tough conference... JFL Clay Krikke are examples of that... A strong core is indeed taking shape... And we have more reinforcements coming in next year...
Well, 1314, I have to say that you do stick to your guns and argue your point with a very logical conclusion. You never really waiver from your original message and have some how persuaded many to believe you are right...........until Valpo loses a tight game and then you abandon your thinking totally. :-) I'm sure glad Mr. Price has grounded you again you are back in the fold feeling that Coach Lottich deserves his chance to prove he can win.



I try to remain consistent. But yes the emotion of another close loss where better stretches of play could have easily prevented it gets to me and I need to sound off because I come from the generation of fans where losing just wasn't a thing that we did very often. Where winning the conference was a regular occurrence and top four finishes were a given 80+% of the time. But as much as I get frustrated with the Lottich era and the issues that have plagued the program I have never been anti-Matt Lottich. I want to believe but that goes two ways. I need reasons to believe and in the heat of another loss it's hard to look at the positives and what is being built. My problem to use an old metaphor  is that instead of eating the hot dog and being happy because hot dogs taste good I'm watching the manufacturing process which makes the product being assembled harder to enjoy. I've never been the most patient person so extended struggles are hard to accept. I am glad that we have more patient people than I making decisions. You want me as a fan but you don't want me anywhere near a position of influence because I would have made a reactionary decision on Lottich last year which let's be honest probably would have set the program back.

No matter what your passion for Valpo is great and that is what this team needs, passionate fans!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on February 11, 2020, 09:40:40 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on February 11, 2020, 06:16:04 PM
Quote from: Just Sayin on February 11, 2020, 02:21:33 PM
Just listened to the latest USH "State of the Program." Tarrance Price's comments on this team and Lottich are excellent. Wow.  Chris Sparks also chimed in at the end. Worth listening to.

100% agree with Chris Sparks that we are nightmarishly bad on defense for a good portion of the game.  This is my single biggest frustration with this years team.  I felt that our defense was better last year, which is truly saying something.

Notice how Sparks states by the 4th or 5th pass you know you have a wide open 3 or a layup . . .  I mean if a simpleton like me can see that the coaching staff must have a handle on this.  I'm so glad he brought that up because so few were engaging me on that topic and I don't remember USH or the pressers mentioning defense a ton.

Truly, we tighten up on defense a little and we starting putting up more W's.  Oklahoma keeps crying to me about "run and gun" when we are watching the games but man alive it's hard to run after a made layup or three pointer.

DEFENSE . . .
DEFENSE . . . . . .
DEFENSE . . . . . . . . .

Tarrance said Valpo played very good defense against No. Iowa as I recall.  And Sparks said Valpo was the top offensive team in the MVC. I don't know what evidence there is for that.  But Valpo was first in the MVC in defensive efficiency last year, second the year before that, both with Matt at the helm. Matt's first year in the Horizon we were second in DE.  This third year in the MVC, Valpo is sixth in conference in DE so Sparks has a point. Defense has just not been a strong point with this team. Valpo this year  is 10th in defending the three but has improved to 5th in defending the two.

Whether this team can make a turn to finish strong and do some damage in the conference tournament remains to be seen. It seems that Tarrance and Sparks think the team is talented enough but that they are also young and inexperienced.

The team seems poised to make a strong run. They get so close but never get over. Perhaps this is the time.
Southern Illinois is on fire and in second place. Valpo has to beat them tomorrow if they want to finish strong.



Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 11, 2020, 09:42:28 PM
The biggest thing to remember is this this conference is so much deeper and tougher. It has twice as many teams in the top half of the old RPI metric this year than there were most years in the Horizon. Therefore there are a lot tougher games. As Paul said most years in the HL there were 4 6 8 games a year we could just look at our conference schedule chalk up and bank as Ws. We have zero of those in this conference. That's a huge difference. Think about it: Say we go 9-4 or so in the non-conference with like 6 wins we can count on that's already up to 15 and a third of the conference schedule. Split the rest and the win total becomes a respectable 21. Dominate the conference and you're pushing 24 25 wins and NIT at large or automatic bid territory. In a much better league it's going to be harder to get to the level we're accustomed and as I said I really underestimated just how much of a step up this conference was. We need to learn how to play in and win in this league first before we can compete. We are getting there. It's slow but we are. I think next year is the year (assuming we keep most of our key contributors and there are no significant defections) that we challenge for a top 4 spot at least. That should be the goal next year. With the Valley as a whole getting better it will be difficult but it's definitely achievable. It's just fun that every team in the conference has at least one player if not two or three that make you think "Wow he's good." and multiple teams have players that make you think they might have an NBA future. This is one of the biggest draws of the MVC to me. When is the last time we went up against a scorer of A.J. Green's caliber? Hayward? Cole? Sykes? McCallum? With the exception of Hayward, I think Green's better than all of them.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on February 12, 2020, 08:27:58 AM
The little guy from Oakland that looked like Kevin Hart.  I think he was top 3 in NCAA scoring. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 12, 2020, 10:09:26 AM
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 12, 2020, 08:27:58 AMThe little guy from Oakland that looked like Kevin Art.  I think he was top 3 in NCAA scoring.



Kendrick Nunn? He's doing pretty well in the NBA for the Heat as I understand
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on February 12, 2020, 10:16:39 AM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on February 12, 2020, 10:09:26 AM
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 12, 2020, 08:27:58 AMThe little guy from Oakland that looked like Kevin Art.  I think he was top 3 in NCAA scoring.



Kendrick Nunn? He's doing pretty well in the NBA for the Heat as I understand

Good guess.  He might be also thinking of Kay Felder.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 12, 2020, 10:48:37 AM
Quote from: wh on February 12, 2020, 10:16:39 AM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on February 12, 2020, 10:09:26 AM
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 12, 2020, 08:27:58 AMThe little guy from Oakland that looked like Kevin Art.  I think he was top 3 in NCAA scoring.
Kendrick Nunn? He's doing pretty well in the NBA for the Heat as I understand
Good guess.  He might be also thinking of Kay Felder.



Felder is significantly shorter than Nunn so you're probably right on that one. He also had an NBA career too I believe and won a title with the Cavs if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: oklahomamick on February 12, 2020, 11:13:15 AM
Kay Felder!  That's it.  Don't think we played Nunn, he was after Valpo left. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on February 15, 2020, 01:45:55 PM
I love how Sparks kind of danced around the question of JFL being a great defender. Yes, JFL has great anticipation, is quick and long, but he is not a great on ball defender and because of his natural tendency to anticipate the defenders reaction, often is not "in front" of his man to prevent the slash or drive to the basket. Tevonn Walker may not have had the "stats" that JFL has, but I would take him over JFL as an on ball defender who stayed in correct position and prevented the opening of that driving lane.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: justducky on February 15, 2020, 02:18:32 PM
Quote from: FWalum on February 15, 2020, 01:45:55 PMYes, JFL has great anticipation, is quick and long, but he is not a great on ball defender and because of his natural tendency to anticipate the defenders reaction, often is not "in front" of his man to prevent the slash or drive to the basket. Tevonn Walker may not have had the "stats" that JFL has, but I would take him over JFL as an on ball defender who stayed in correct position and prevented the opening of that driving lane.

The 7 minute 2'nd half stretch vs SIU which featured JFL "resting" appeared to partially be a message. Our "unusual" 5 man combos during that time were defending very well and Matt seemed to notice.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 15, 2020, 03:34:06 PM
If that's the case then I hope JFL took that as a message the way it was intended. If he took it as a slight, Lottich may have just lost the war to win a battle. I hope he stays and continues to build with the rest of the program because I think we've got a chance to be really good next year. Go Valpo! I BELIEVE!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on February 15, 2020, 04:30:12 PM
Quote from: FWalum on February 15, 2020, 01:45:55 PM
I love how Sparks kind of danced around the question of JFL being a great defender. Yes, JFL has great anticipation, is quick and long, but he is not a great on ball defender and because of his natural tendency to anticipate the defenders reaction, often is not "in front" of his man to prevent the slash or drive to the basket. Tevonn Walker may not have had the "stats" that JFL has, but I would take him over JFL as an on ball defender who stayed in correct position and prevented the opening of that driving lane.

Happy it was breached by others first.  I hesitated saying this about a player that leaves it all on the court but it's a potential area for improvement.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: GoldenCrusader87 on February 15, 2020, 05:42:50 PM
Solid episode of USH. I appreciated the comments and perspectives by both guests.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 16, 2020, 12:20:21 AM
So uh... New episode coming in advance of the Drake game? I hope so. Would love to hear your thoughts on these last two games: the defensive clinic against SIU and the comeback tonight and your thoughts on our chances to avoid Thursday\ previews of Drake and Bradley! So far we're doing everything right and the opportunity is definitely there! Maybe get Lubos Barton's perspective on the record if and when Javon breaks it. Would love an update on Lubos and what he's up to and his thoughts on the program. or maybe have Javon do an interview on it since it's such a big deal! Go Valpo! I BELIEVE!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 25, 2020, 02:17:52 AM
Am I missing something or has it been awhile since we've had a new episode to listen to?  There's gotta be one coming up soon right?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on February 25, 2020, 12:05:16 PM

Quote from: VUGrad1314 on February 25, 2020, 02:17:52 AMAm I missing something or has it been awhile since we've had a new episode to listen to?  There's gotta be one coming up soon right?


Wasn't going to say anything and just wait it out, but Paul teased us a couple days ago he was releasing one yesterday. Didn't come, but am optimistic for later on today. The man is busy getting all this information we desire and lived for.  ;D
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on February 25, 2020, 12:10:18 PM
Quote from: VUBBFan on February 25, 2020, 12:05:16 PM

Quote from: VUGrad1314 on February 25, 2020, 02:17:52 AMAm I missing something or has it been awhile since we've had a new episode to listen to?  There's gotta be one coming up soon right?


Wasn't going to say anything and just wait it out, but Paul teased us a couple days ago he was releasing one yesterday. Didn't come, but am optimistic for later on today. The man is busy getting all this information we desire and lived for.  ;D

Editing now. It's been tricky.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 25, 2020, 10:43:26 PM
Here's the episode! Interviews from our seniors (Kiser Fazekas) and Coach Lottich! These were conducted before Senior Night with the podcast airing for the first time just before tonight's game!

https://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/podcast-union-street-hoops-the-senior-episode/article_058e97c4-5817-11ea-800d-f3fc1079ec9d.html

To answer your question, there is no difference between 3rd and 6th in the standings but there is a huge difference between 6th and 7th.

Your point on Javon's future is solid and well-taken. If he was going to leave he probably would have last year. You're right.

Good point on Lottich as well. If the team had quit and he had lost them they wouldn't fight and come back as well and as hard as they have this year. This team is clearly playing for him and he is getting results out of them. And you're right so much is about your perception of the team and the program.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 25, 2020, 10:45:16 PM
Paul, you went to Logansport? I have family in that area. Did you eat at Mr Happy Burger or get some Bruno's Pizza? Both of those restaurants are very good if you're in the area! If I had known you were going  I would have told you in advance.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on February 25, 2020, 11:42:05 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on February 25, 2020, 10:45:16 PM
Paul, you went to Logansport? I have family in that area. Did you eat at Mr Happy Burger or get some Bruno's Pizza? Both of those restaurants are very good if you're in the area! If I had known you were going  I would have told you in advance.

I wasn't there long enough to eat. I was coming in hot from swimming sectionals. I drove by both places and was definitely intrigued by Mr. Happy Burger. Next time!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on February 25, 2020, 11:46:11 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on February 25, 2020, 11:42:05 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on February 25, 2020, 10:45:16 PMPaul, you went to Logansport? I have family in that area. Did you eat at Mr Happy Burger or get some Bruno's Pizza? Both of those restaurants are very good if you're in the area! If I had known you were going  I would have told you in advance.
I wasn't there long enough to eat. I was coming in hot from swimming sectionals. I drove by both places and was definitely intrigued by Mr. Happy Burger. Next time!



Do it! Great burgers, pork burgers, tenderloins, fish sandwiches, and fries, and they always put a little bit of extra syrup in the cokes so they're just a little sweeter. :) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: truth219 on February 26, 2020, 01:11:31 AM
My union apprenticeship school was in logansport. They put us in a hotel called the country view inn until it went out of business. The place was sketchy. I have fond memories of logansport and Mr happy burger. France park is cool to

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Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on February 26, 2020, 01:20:30 AM
I've said it for a few weeks, but it is good to hear someone else mention that they don't feel it likely that JFL would leave after this season.  Again, it completely changes things if the NCAA adds some BS rule that allows 1 free transfer, but if that doesn't happen, he is at least around until the end of his JR season.  I also get the feeling that Clay has a chip on his shoulder, much like Alec Peters did, in being under-recruited.  I think that the core of our team will be back next year, especially with increased success in conference this season.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on March 07, 2020, 03:08:12 PM
Some of the latest episodes of Union Street Hoops.

Wednesday, Mar. 4 - Amtrak Madness - https://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/podcast-union-street-hoops-amtrak-madness/article_12ea4cd0-5e6e-11ea-a4b9-0fcfcc66924e.html (https://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/podcast-union-street-hoops-amtrak-madness/article_12ea4cd0-5e6e-11ea-a4b9-0fcfcc66924e.html)

Friday, Mar. 5 - Survive and Advance - https://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/podcast-union-street-hoops-survive-and-advance/article_13fba354-5fc6-11ea-bd62-8764cc97de68.html (https://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/podcast-union-street-hoops-survive-and-advance/article_13fba354-5fc6-11ea-bd62-8764cc97de68.html)

Saturday, Mar. 6 - Rolling to the Semis - https://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/podcast-union-street-hoops-rolling-to-the-semis/article_37d164ae-60a1-11ea-9b78-1bdd88cd22f2.html (https://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/podcast-union-street-hoops-rolling-to-the-semis/article_37d164ae-60a1-11ea-9b78-1bdd88cd22f2.html)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on March 07, 2020, 05:36:54 PM
Your work is much appreciated.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: talksalot on March 07, 2020, 09:11:16 PM
just catching up... listening to the Texas Eagle... you figured on a 6-2 or 8-3 seeded championship.  7-4 would have had me buying you a beer
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on April 08, 2020, 07:45:47 PM
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/1248048982787600387?s=20
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on April 08, 2020, 07:50:57 PM
Thank you Paul for keeping me sane during this time of complete basketball withdrawal. This sounds like an excellent show, I will be listening on my neighborhood walk tomorrow!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpo64 on April 08, 2020, 09:12:26 PM
Paul:  Thanks for the interview with Jacob as we all look forward to his debut this coming year.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on April 08, 2020, 09:46:06 PM
I see a couple of flaws in Brown's contention that he should have made 1st team instead of Javon. With Fazekas out until the very end of the season combined with Valpo's relative inexperience, Javon was the primary focus of every opponent's game plan. Stop Javon, stop Valpo. That was not the case with Brown, who had the good fortune of playing with a more experienced and talented team. And, let's not forget that Javon had mono that seriously affected his stamina down the stretch. Last, but certainly not least, for the season Brown shot 36%, Javon 44%. Case closed.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on April 09, 2020, 04:03:36 AM
Brown was not first team, regardless of being tournament MVP.  Your shot % comment is the biggest reason why. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on April 17, 2020, 12:34:02 AM
I was doing some database work on Union Street Hoops, trying to figure out how many episodes I've done since the first on Nov. 5, 2016.

There have been 114 episodes of USH. Parker Gatewood has co-hosted the most while Robbie Weinstein and Karl Berner have assisted along the way. There have been 84 guests on the show over the years, with Todd Ickow (7), Mark LaBarbera (6), Matt Lottich (5) and Mark Adams/Alec Peters (4) leading the way.

Throw out some names of guests you'd love to have on the show in the future?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on April 17, 2020, 03:17:29 AM
I don't remember if it already happened, but Phil Wille to talk about his punch!

How about Raitis Grafs and Kikas Gomes?  Ali Berdiel?  If you can track him down, Tony Falu? lol :)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: IndyValpo on April 17, 2020, 06:41:27 AM
My personal favorite Vilcinskas.

Somebody from the Rochlitz era like Mo Smith.

Someone from the Smith era like Jim Steuve.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: tiny707 on April 17, 2020, 09:12:29 AM
PLEASE get Harry Bell on. I think he played from 1984-1988. Would be great to get someone from that era. Not sure if you ever have? I think he played in Hungary and may still live there?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on April 17, 2020, 10:21:45 AM
John Wolfenburg

Darryl Ashby

Max Kipfer

Pete Schmelzer

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: beaner on April 17, 2020, 10:43:55 AM
Quote from: Pgmado on April 17, 2020, 12:34:02 AM
I was doing some database work on Union Street Hoops, trying to figure out how many episodes I've done since the first on Nov. 5, 2016.

There have been 114 episodes of USH. Parker Gatewood has co-hosted the most while Robbie Weinstein and Karl Berner have assisted along the way. There have been 84 guests on the show over the years, with Todd Ickow (7), Mark LaBarbera (6), Matt Lottich (5) and Mark Adams/Alec Peters (4) leading the way.

Throw out some names of guests you'd love to have on the show in the future?



Tracy Gibson & Curtis Stevens
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on April 17, 2020, 03:50:46 PM
I would love to hear Commissioner Doug Elgin's thoughts about the social and economic impact the Coronavirus pandemic could have on the future of college athletics, especially our flagship sport, and more specifically on how the "new normal" may impact Missouri Valley Conference program budgets, attendance, NCAA tournament revenue sharing, scheduling philosophy, etc., etc.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on April 17, 2020, 09:13:06 PM
And expansion prospects. Don't forget expansion prospects. (Still want Murray and or Belmont in the MVC)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: 4throwfan on April 19, 2020, 01:01:22 PM
Quote from: wh on April 17, 2020, 03:50:46 PM
I would love to hear Commissioner Doug Elgin's thoughts about the social and economic impact the Coronavirus pandemic could have on the future of college athletics, especially our flagship sport, and more specifically on how the "new normal" may impact Missouri Valley Conference program budgets, attendance, NCAA tournament revenue sharing, scheduling philosophy, etc., etc.

Could not agree with WH's request more.  I would simply add, that in discussions on the same topic, might be helpful to have someone from VU athletics, even if they have been on the show before.  I'm sure that, at this point, discussions on 20/21 sports is very speculative, and I think we understand that, but would still be nice to hear perspective.

As for past players, I think it might be interesting to hear from Ben Boggs, as he was part of a couple of different eras in different roles.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on April 19, 2020, 10:20:14 PM
Quote from: bbtds on April 17, 2020, 10:21:45 AM
John Wolfenburg

Darryl Ashby

Max Kipfer

Pete Schmelzer

Did a little research.

https://www.southbendtribune.com/sports/high_school/basketball/state-champs-remain-larger-than-life/article_d912968f-1a98-505f-b416-27b5d1fa0f3e.html

This story on the South Bend Adams Eagles run to the state championship game in 1973 where they lost to New Albany happens to mention that in 2016 Ashby still lived in South Bend.

Austin remains the most tangible link to the old days as a 30-year high school head coach at South Bend St. Joseph, Richmond, Northridge, Edwardsburg (Michigan) and the last six years at Concord. Robinson and Ashby are around the South Bend area, but other team members have gone their separate ways.


John Wolfenburg is a retired school administrator in the Milwaukee area

http://www.valpoathletics.com/athletics/hofmembers/HoFInductees/9798/john-wolfenberg/

https://www.facebook.com/john.wolfenberg


Max Kipfer is most likely in Northern Virginia

http://www.bbpmag.com/2010s/10bio/Kipfer-max-10.php


Pete Schmelzer seems to be an Osteopathic doctor in suburban Chicago

https://www.linkedin.com/in/pete-schmelzer-8346046

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: M on April 22, 2020, 08:55:00 PM
Mousse Mbaye, Vashil Fernandez, the old lady and her husband who sit in the back row of the lower bowl bleacher seats and do all the motions to the fight song.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on April 22, 2020, 09:19:15 PM
Latest episode with Howard Little is very good.  Provides a bunch of inside details, especially into the 2010-2011 season.  That team had so much talent, with Wood, Johnson, Broekhoff and Van Wijk.  It's shame they faced so much adversity at the end of the season.  They had the talent to make a run in the tourney had they gotten there.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on April 28, 2020, 09:02:50 PM
Quote from: EddieCabot on April 22, 2020, 09:19:15 PM
Latest episode with Howard Little is very good.  Provides a bunch of inside details, especially into the 2010-2011 season.  That team had so much talent, with Wood, Johnson, Broekhoff and Van Wijk.  It's shame they faced so much adversity at the end of the season.  They had the talent to make a run in the tourney had they gotten there.

Really impressed by the reaction to Paul's last podcast.  Awesome that everyone loved it as much as I did.

New pod posted today.  Haven't listened yet, but guests are Brandon Wood and Bakari.  As always, lucky that Paul is such great buddies with the players and able to get them back for his podcasts.  #blessed
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: NativeCheesehead on April 28, 2020, 09:43:55 PM
I'm sure the latest USH is Paul's usual top notch work. We're lucky to have him covering the team. But I have no desire to listen to former players talk about why they left.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on May 01, 2020, 04:38:15 AM
Good episode with Howard Little.  I had completely forgotten about Beas Hamga!  Interesting enough, the below article referenced Mark Adams as an advisor to Beas.  Is this the same Mark Adams that announces some of our games, and is a huge proponent of Valpo?

https://www.zagsblog.com/2009/01/10/beas-hamga-to-valparaiso/
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: zvillehaze on May 01, 2020, 08:11:36 AM
Quote from: valpotx on May 01, 2020, 04:38:15 AM
Good episode with Howard Little.  I had completely forgotten about Beas Hamga!  Interesting enough, the below article referenced Mark Adams as an advisor to Beas.  Is this the same Mark Adams that announces some of our games, and is a huge proponent of Valpo?

https://www.zagsblog.com/2009/01/10/beas-hamga-to-valparaiso/

This is a different Mark Adams.  He runs the Indiana Elite AAU program and the A-HOPE foundation that helps bring young players to the US (primarily from Africa).  As you can see from the article linked below, some people question his methods and motives.

https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=6587668 (https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=6587668)


Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: IndyValpo on May 01, 2020, 03:53:54 PM
Interesting towards the end Paul asks Bakari about the future and he mentions waiting for NBA draft before deciding his next move!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on May 01, 2020, 06:47:14 PM
Quote from: truth219 on February 26, 2020, 01:11:31 AM
My union apprenticeship school was in logansport. They put us in a hotel called the country view inn until it went out of business. The place was sketchy. I have fond memories of logansport and Mr happy burger. France park is cool to

I'm sure Logansport would love to have any kind of recommendation now. The publicity they have now during the pandemic is going to hurt them for a while.


Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on May 01, 2020, 07:12:37 PM
Quote from: truth219 on February 26, 2020, 01:11:31 AMMy union apprenticeship school was in logansport. They put us in a hotel called the country view inn until it went out of business. The place was sketchy. I have fond memories of logansport and Mr happy burger. France park is cool to Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk



I know it well. Right there on the road between Logansport and my grandparents' hometown of Royal Center if I'm not mistaken. This could just be childhood memories and nostalgia talking but Mr. Happy Burger serves some of the best burgers tenderloins and coca cola (with extra syrup) I've ever had in my life. Moreover, you'll be hard pressed to meet a nicer man than the owner. If my memory serves France Park is right by the river and is the park with the Carousel that I used to ride when I would visit my grandparents every Summer. That was always a great time with many happy memories. Bruno's Pizza (a little place near downtown that only does carry out orders) is good too for pizza and strombolis. Used to eat there a few times a year whenever I would be down there for a visit. It's very sad to see that the town has fallen on hard times recently with the decline of local industry and such and has now attracted this terrible publicity during the pandemic.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on May 01, 2020, 10:12:47 PM
Really enjoyed Paul's "inside baseball" description of how he scooped the Goodnews story, teased it, and went public with it. And, who benefits from his effort? We all do.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on May 01, 2020, 10:21:21 PM
While I'm in the mood of praising people within and close to the Valpo program let me also add that we have a top-notch beat writer as well who consistently does great work for us during the season as well as in the offseason. Thank you very much for everything you do Paul!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on May 17, 2020, 11:53:07 AM
Quote from: EddieCabot on April 28, 2020, 09:02:50 PM
Quote from: EddieCabot on April 22, 2020, 09:19:15 PM
Latest episode with Howard Little is very good.  Provides a bunch of inside details, especially into the 2010-2011 season.  That team had so much talent, with Wood, Johnson, Broekhoff and Van Wijk.  It's shame they faced so much adversity at the end of the season.  They had the talent to make a run in the tourney had they gotten there.

Really impressed by the reaction to Paul's last podcast.  Awesome that everyone loved it as much as I did.

New pod posted today.  Haven't listened yet, but guests are Brandon Wood and Bakari.  As always, lucky that Paul is such great buddies with the players and able to get them back for his podcasts.  #blessed

The latest USH features an interview with Vashil, one of the most popular Valpo players ever.  Great episode, as always.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on May 18, 2020, 02:35:13 AM
Awesome to hear from Vashil.  Since he is now a businessman, like the rest of us, I just sent him a LinkedIn invite to see if my network can assist his future endeavors :)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on September 21, 2020, 10:38:52 PM
A new USH with Coach Lottich!

Some very interesting nuggets in here. Especially talking about the roster this year.

An optimistic podcast.

https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1308151244264017921?s=21
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on September 22, 2020, 10:53:40 PM
I really hope this is the year we truly announce that we belong in the MVC. I think we can do it. Go Valpo! I BELIEVE!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on September 23, 2020, 10:19:27 AM
I really enjoyed hearing about the players.  Very interesting that Emil has gained 25 lbs, presumably of muscle!  Another big man project that might just work out extremely well.  Also glad to have it confirmed that Jacob shoots the 3 as well as his high school stats (nearly 50%). Can't wait to see the guys in action.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on September 23, 2020, 12:50:45 PM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on September 22, 2020, 10:53:40 PM
I really hope this is the year we truly announce that we belong in the MVC. I think we can do it. Go Valpo! I BELIEVE!

You might be thinking of Evansville, not Valpo.  Evansville basketball teams were a combined 0-36 last year. Valpo was 18-18.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on September 23, 2020, 03:16:02 PM
We need to stop being a Thursday team and start contending for\winning titles before we finally win respect from our new peers in my mind. As I said hopefully that starts this year.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VALPO LI on September 23, 2020, 06:40:07 PM
I personally feel Valpo got more respect last year being a Thursday team heading to the finals for a shot at the title over the one and done 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th seeded teams.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on September 23, 2020, 08:41:06 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on September 21, 2020, 10:38:52 PM
A new USH with Coach Lottich!

Some very interesting nuggets in here. Especially talking about the roster this year.

An optimistic podcast.

https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1308151244264017921?s=21

Listening to this, I felt like someone walking aimlessly through the desert in total delirium, and unexpectedly stumbled onto a life-saving water hole. I was drinking in every word, even bathing in it. Outstanding interview!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu84v2 on September 23, 2020, 10:48:51 PM
Quote from: VALPO LI on September 23, 2020, 06:40:07 PM
I personally feel Valpo got more respect last year being a Thursday team heading to the finals for a shot at the title over the one and done 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th seeded teams.

Laughing...while perhaps true, this is not a model for long term success.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on October 23, 2020, 12:16:34 PM
New episode out with Todd. Some good insight into the new players!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Chairback on October 23, 2020, 12:45:02 PM
As always this episode was very good.  It brings a little normalcy back to listen to these.  Thank you Paul and great
job.

Also, we are lucky to have Todd as part of our program.  I hope there is a banner up at the arc with his name on it one day.  He deserves it.   
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on October 23, 2020, 12:53:48 PM
Quote from: Chairback on October 23, 2020, 12:45:02 PM
As always this episode was very good.  It brings a little normalcy back to listen to these.  Thank you Paul and great
job.

Also, we are lucky to have Todd as part of our program.  I hope there is a banner up at the arc with his name on it one day.  He deserves it.   

I can't find the link.  It isn't up at nwi.com
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: IndyValpo on October 23, 2020, 12:56:44 PM
Quote from: vu72 on October 23, 2020, 12:53:48 PM
Quote from: Chairback on October 23, 2020, 12:45:02 PM
As always this episode was very good.  It brings a little normalcy back to listen to these.  Thank you Paul and great
job.

Also, we are lucky to have Todd as part of our program.  I hope there is a banner up at the arc with his name on it one day.  He deserves it.   

I can't find the link.  It isn't up at nwi.com
Do you have Spotify? That is where I find it
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on October 23, 2020, 01:14:29 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on October 23, 2020, 12:56:44 PM
Quote from: vu72 on October 23, 2020, 12:53:48 PM
Quote from: Chairback on October 23, 2020, 12:45:02 PM
As always this episode was very good.  It brings a little normalcy back to listen to these.  Thank you Paul and great
job.

Also, we are lucky to have Todd as part of our program.  I hope there is a banner up at the arc with his name on it one day.  He deserves it.   

I can't find the link.  It isn't up at nwi.com
Do you have Spotify? That is where I find it

Got it on Apple!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Corohan2 on November 02, 2020, 07:20:38 AM
Just looking at odds for next season.

Good to see local teams Illinois and Iowa so high this year.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VALPO LI on November 27, 2020, 09:02:32 AM
New episode of Union Street Hoops!
Great episode with Paul and Mark LaBarbera that touches on everything from testing, conference games, baseball and football.

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1332334211823505413
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on December 21, 2020, 03:00:22 PM
https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1341122571501236224?s=21
https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1341122947872862210?s=21
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on January 22, 2021, 05:47:32 PM
Hey Paul, Any chance of a new Union Street Hoops Podcast dropping? The program seems like an absolute mess right now. Would love to hear your honest thoughts. Cast aside your personal relationships with the people at the ARC and tell us your unvarnished thoughts on the current state of Valpo Basketball. Might be a good episode to get Todd on if he'd join.

Fans and Almuni are embarrassed by what we have seen unfold this season.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on March 04, 2021, 09:43:52 AM
There's been a lot of content lately. Here's a review...

Hail Redacted - a dive into the mascot change featuring interviews with two former Valpo football players on opposite sides of the issue.
https://omny.fm/shows/union-street-hoops/hail-redacted

Bonus Interview: Kaitlyn Steinhiser - Valparaiso's student body president joins the pod to discuss how the mascot change came about from her end
https://omny.fm/shows/union-street-hoops/bonus-interview-kaitlyn-steinhiser

March Is On - Missouri State beat reporter Wyatt Wheeler previews Arch Madness opener. Former Valparaiso marketing admin Scott Ochander discusses the 2011 rebrand and (attention ValpoTX) the deep study into the Crusader nickname.
https://omny.fm/shows/union-street-hoops/march-is-on

Arch Madness 2021: John Kiser - Kiser takes us through last season's Arch Madness run
https://omny.fm/shows/union-street-hoops/arch-madness-2021-john-kiser
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on March 04, 2021, 01:33:16 PM
Thanks PO.  Was this the only prior review on the nickname, ever since 1995?  If so, I think that it is fair to say that it has been reviewed on occasion over the years, but for those that say, 'it has been reviewed for several decades,' is causing it to sound like a continuous thing that was ongoing during that time period.  I wouldn't reference 3 reviews over a 25-26 year period, as anything other than branding studies against current views, versus continuous reviews because a name is offensive. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on March 04, 2021, 02:38:29 PM
Two thumbs up on the Kiser interview. So much fun to relive last year's tournament run through his eyes. One thing I still don't have a handle on is the true impact Bradley switching to zone had on the outcome of the game. As I recall, Wardle took full credit for it stopping our momentum, yet Matt completely downplayed it. He said we had some great looks that just didn't go down. John mentioned the fatigue factor, but nothing about the zone. I find it interesting that the 2 teams have such different takes on what completely turned the game.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on March 04, 2021, 06:01:39 PM
Quote from: wh on March 04, 2021, 02:38:29 PM
Two thumbs up on the Kiser interview. So much fun to relive last year's tournament run through his eyes. One thing I still don't have a handle on is the true impact Bradley switching to zone had on the outcome of the game. As I recall, Wardle took full credit for it stopping our momentum, yet Matt completely downplayed it. He said we had some great looks that just didn't go down. John mentioned the fatigue factor, but nothing about the zone. I find it interesting that the 2 teams have such different takes on what completely turned the game.

John did mention not being able to hit shots when Bradley went to the zone. I think there's very little question that Wardle pulled out a great coaching move by shifting to the zone. I don't think it was something they had done much. He rolled the dice and took his chances that Valpo's legs wouldn't be there, and he was correct.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on March 20, 2021, 07:56:00 PM
Latest episode of USH. I sit down with the four members of Valpo's Class of 2025.

https://omny.fm/shows/union-street-hoops/the-class-of-25-episode
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: justducky on March 20, 2021, 10:38:48 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on March 20, 2021, 07:56:00 PM
Latest episode of USH. I sit down with the four members of Valpo's Class of 2025.

https://omny.fm/shows/union-street-hoops/the-class-of-25-episode

Interesting! So if I speculate that these four along with Krikke, Edwards, JO, and Barrett grab 150 of the 200 available per game minutes; will I get any argument?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on March 21, 2021, 01:36:42 AM
Good session, other than the Ohio State, Purdue, and Texas focus areas not aging well :)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on March 21, 2021, 09:17:28 AM
Quote from: justducky on March 20, 2021, 10:38:48 PMSo if I speculate that these four along with Krikke, Edwards, JO, and Barrett grab 150 of the 200 available per game minutes; will I get any argument?

Could happen if we don't get any significant immediately eligible transfers. Krikke, Edwards, JO, and Barrett may average 100 minutes between the 4 of them and this years freshman added another 56 minutes, but I think the number for this freshman class was unusually high and unless one of the incoming freshman is the starting point guard minutes will get spread around, especially if Gordon and Morgan are in the mix.

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpopal on March 21, 2021, 09:50:33 AM
Quote from: FWalum on March 21, 2021, 09:17:28 AM
Quote from: justducky on March 20, 2021, 10:38:48 PMSo if I speculate that these four along with Krikke, Edwards, JO, and Barrett grab 150 of the 200 available per game minutes; will I get any argument?

Could happen if we don't get any significant immediately eligible transfers. Krikke, Edwards, JO, and Barrett may average 100 minutes between the 4 of them and this years freshman added another 56 minutes, but I think the number for this freshman class was unusually high and unless one of the incoming freshman is the starting point guard minutes will get spread around, especially if Gordon and Morgan are in the mix.


A video recommendation appeared in my YouTube feed this morning of an interview with Matt Lottich by Todd Ickow in January 2018 in which Lottich points to the "young team" as a reason for some of the difficulties in a recent games losing streak. I believe we could do a compilation video of interviews every year since that 2017-2018 season and find the phrase "young team" repeated each time. It looks like we're in for more of the same next year. Perhaps the new Valpo nickname should be the Fountains of Youth because our teams seem to stay forever young.

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 22, 2021, 07:21:49 PM
I'm not sure Paul would do it. But spill the dirt on Lottich. Transfers are two way street. Partially on the kids but the current state of the program reflects on him and it's not positive.

There is more going on behind the scenes than is being shared publicly.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: elephtheria47 on March 22, 2021, 07:27:54 PM
Even if Paul would do it, would not expect them to say much. Not a good look for a new/potential team if you're publicly talking bad about your previous team or coach.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 22, 2021, 07:37:06 PM
Quote from: elephtheria47 on March 22, 2021, 07:27:54 PM
Even if Paul would do it, would not expect them to say much. Not a good look for a new/potential team if you're publicly talking bad about your previous team or coach.

Yes it would likely not get addressed publicly and Mark LaBarbera would likely continue on with his blinders and try to deflect away from his hiring mistake.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on March 22, 2021, 08:31:21 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 22, 2021, 07:37:06 PM
Quote from: elephtheria47 on March 22, 2021, 07:27:54 PMEven if Paul would do it, would not expect them to say much. Not a good look for a new/potential team if you're publicly talking bad about your previous team or coach.
Yes it would likely not get addressed publicly and Mark LaBarbera would likely continue on with his blinders and try to deflect away from his hiring mistake.



"Hiring from within is what the great programs like Butler do. We want to be like Butler." Yeah when you actually have a competent person ready and willing to take the job that strategy works just fine. You don't hire some Johnny Come Lately at the end of your bench because you're too cheap to run a national search when up and coming coaches would have tripped all over themselves to come here and expect to "Be like Butler." That takes investment. That takes commitment not parsimonious penny pinching just to do something because "Well other programs did it and it worked." What a joke. Actually we are like the Butler of the MVC because we serve up wins to our opponents on a silver platter. "Your victory is served, sir. I hope it is to your liking." Overall I think MLB is a decent AD but he has (at best) a checkered history when it comes to hiring coaches and then shows way too much loyalty toward them when they prove that they suck. But that probably comes from on high. He can only work with what he's given and if Valpo is too cheap to invest in a real coach then this is what we end up with and we shouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 22, 2021, 08:40:01 PM
Well Valparaiso has at least $600K from the Tourney shares. There is no excuse for not having the $ to buy him out but I can't wait to see what they waste the $ on this time that won't go in Men's Basketball their flagship program that LaBarbera has failed to maintain and be a good steward of.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on March 22, 2021, 09:05:40 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 22, 2021, 08:40:01 PMWell Valparaiso has at least $600K from the Tourney shares. There is no excuse for not having the $ to buy him out but I can't wait to see what they waste the $ on this time that won't go in Men's Basketball their flagship program that LaBarbera has failed to maintain and be a good steward of.



Unfortunately we had a shortfall of about $600K so most of the money will go to that I assume also we're in the midst of a rebranding so most of what's left over will probably go to that meaning we probably don't have the money to buy out Matt Lottich unless the Ramblers keep winning they don't leave for the A-10 everyone comes back (Krutwig Williamson Moser) and they do it all again. Help us Loyola you're our only hope!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on March 22, 2021, 11:18:12 PM
I'm going to wait and see what Clay and JO say publicly about their reasons for leaving (if they do).  I only choose those two, as they are the ones that hurt a bit.  Clay for defense, and JO for offense.  I would assume that once they are officially gone, those that have more information on their given reasons, will be more keen to share it. 

I still support Lottich at this point. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 23, 2021, 01:36:01 PM
Quote from: valpotx on March 22, 2021, 11:18:12 PM
I'm going to wait and see what Clay and JO say publicly about their reasons for leaving (if they do).  I only choose those two, as they are the ones that hurt a bit.  Clay for defense, and JO for offense.  I would assume that once they are officially gone, those that have more information on their given reasons, will be more keen to share it. 

I still support Lottich at this point. 

With Clay it's pretty obvious guys. He wanted to be a perimeter wing. Lottich didn't use him that way this season. And for good reason. He struggled with his jump shot. It's not to say Lottich wouldn't use him  as a wing in the future but he needs to develop that side of his game. That's a lot of offseason work he needs to put in
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on March 23, 2021, 02:19:26 PM
Right, and if that is the case/reason, we can't put his transfer completely on Lottich.  If Clay would have hit his open looks, he would have played more in that position, versus the Swiss Army Knife that he became.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on March 23, 2021, 02:46:32 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 23, 2021, 01:36:01 PMWith Clay it's pretty obvious guys. He wanted to be a perimeter wing. Lottich didn't use him that way this season. And for good reason. He struggled with his jump shot. It's not to say Lottich wouldn't use him  as a wing in the future but he needs to develop that side of his game. That's a lot of offseason work he needs to put in

Could this be the same situation with JO?  We  were bringing in zero fives so it was going to be JO and Ben next year.  True, he could really shoot it and should have played more on the wing but both of these guys saw the field getting crowded with three potential 2/3 guys coming in the new class.  Now Matt needs to find a 4/5 in the transfer portal.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on March 23, 2021, 03:01:56 PM
Can we give the talk about adding Belmont and Murray State a rest? It's the equivalent of a lousy performer telling the boss you need to bring in some better people to help us be more productive. Embarrassing.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bb33 on March 23, 2021, 03:12:00 PM
 I still would count us as having 3 real transfers (Clay JO and Daniel - who I will miss).  Clay and JO are the only two transfers who truly hurt.  The others' reasons for leaving are quite obvious.  Even Clay is obvious.   I wish him well, but we are missing the greatness he has in him, not the greatness that materialized consistently on the court.   And  JOs leaving could have nothing to do with the coaches at all. The coaches have lots of limitations as far as what they can do for the players.  I'm sure that they would change a lot of things if they could.  Sometimes a school is just not the right fit.   

I am not saying Lottich is a perfect coach, or doesn't have issues.  I do think we need to see what happens after a normal season.  This year was hard for everyone.   Our extra money should be put toward facility upgrades.  I heard the weight room could use some major improvements - and that would benefit all sports.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on May 06, 2021, 10:39:44 AM

[tweet]1390048407478231043[/tweet]

New USH podcast is out.  I can't wait to listen when I get time this evening.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: humbleopinion on May 06, 2021, 12:37:12 PM
Quote from: EddieCabot on May 06, 2021, 10:39:44 AM

[tweet]1390048407478231043[/tweet]

New USH podcast is out.  I can't wait to listen when I get time this evening.

Zion laid it on the table.  Made me think. Great interview!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpopal on May 06, 2021, 01:46:13 PM
I applaud Zion for his passion and his commitment, as well as his willingness to join his family's school and work in his community. However, I cannot accept much of a perception based upon fallacies, such as a suggestion that college athletes, including at Valpo, and pro athletes are in positions comparable to slavery or plantation existence. I understand other more prominent figures have made this claim in the past—NFL players like Richard Sherman, NBA players like Lebron James, sports reporters like Bryant Gumbel or Jemele Hill, and some college athletes, including Duke players—but such hyperbole diminishes one's perspective and indirectly trivializes the horror of slavery the way the Hitler fallacy or similar comparisons to the Holocaust undo arguments in other areas. I also question his diminution of a Valparaiso degree.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on May 06, 2021, 02:01:08 PM
The longer the interview went on, I began to see Zion as a bitter young man with a jaded view of life. That's sad.

I don't necessarily disagree with "his" truth, but "his" truth is only part of the "whole" truth. Negative energy focused on blame and victimization accomplishes nothing. Besides, there's a whole movement already devoted to accomplishing nothing. Hopefully, he gets it figured out, so he can become a positive force for change, something that's in short supply everywhere you turn these days. Now that would be impressive.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on May 06, 2021, 02:21:57 PM
I have mixed emotions concerning some of the stuff he said.  Clearly I will never be able to put myself in the shoes of a black man.  Sounds like he is on the road to making himself a valued asset in his community and that is all any of us can ask for in life.  I do however think that an interview with Eron might come off quite differently.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on May 06, 2021, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: humbleopinion on May 06, 2021, 12:37:12 PM
Quote from: EddieCabot on May 06, 2021, 10:39:44 AM

[tweet]1390048407478231043[/tweet]

New USH podcast is out.  I can't wait to listen when I get time this evening.

Zion laid it on the table.  Made me think. Great interview!


Very interesting interview. I feel sorry for Zion and any other athlete at Valpo or any other school who gets a scholarship but for whatever reason does not feel like they got an education or where forced into a specific track because they were an athlete. For someone who feels the call and responsibility to serve his community, which I wholeheartedly applaud, I am surprised that he didn't look into a field that would better serve that goal. We currently have, and also in the past have had, players who did more than Sports Management or the typical "athlete" majors. What better example than John Kiser do you need in order to know that the "system" does not determine what you become if you choose differently. He could have certainly done something in the area of education, criminal justice or social work that might have served his passion to help the "hood". I understand that this may not be an easy choice or the choice he feels he was culturally conditioned to make, but nonetheless it was his choice. If he truly feels that his "education" was a waste then he should own that responsibility and not blame the "system" just as he seems to now be telling others that they need to "own" the largely false narrative of getting to the "next level" in basketball.

It does seem that Zion is now becoming concerned about the social capital (where the social context in which one finds oneself embedded, things such as basketball, rap music, Nike's etc., strongly conditions one's achievement or lack thereof) of particularly young Black men. I hope that he finds working at his Parent's school very fulfilling and that he is able to impact his community in a positive way with some of the entrepreneurial endeavors he mentioned in the podcast.

He might find this discussion by Glenn Loury and John McWhorter useful The unintentional racism of educational anti-racism advocates (https://youtu.be/Ya62u4EueEc)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: IrishDawg on May 06, 2021, 03:56:59 PM
Interviews like these are good.  Right or wrong, having your thoughts or preconceived notions challenged from a different perspective isn't a bad thing.  Hopefully he is able to be a positive influence for people no matter what he decides to do.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on May 06, 2021, 04:17:28 PM
A few thoughts I have...

1) Zion is probably similar to a lot of college athletes in that he got lost in the shuffle with education. I've seen this first hand with transfers and the NCAA. My guess is he took certain classes at UNLV and then Wabash Valley that did or did not transfer to Valpo. Based on what transferred over probably dicatated what major he needed to pursue when he got to Valpo. The NCAA wants student-athletes to show they are on a Path to Graduate (I've capitalized this because it is an official term). Student-athletes need to show they are making progress toward their degree. From what Zion said in the interview, as he got older, his eyes started to open a bit more, and probably too late in the process for him to shift his major toward studying something of substance for what he wants to accomplish away from basketball. Many basketball players come to D1 schools with the idea of going pro and they don't always think about life away from basketball. By the time people shift that focus, it's often too late to take advantage of those academic opportunities. As for the comparison to Kiser, he came in with an academic plan. He stayed that course and basketball was a supplemental experience. I'd argue that Zion came into college with a plan of being a professional basketball player and his plan shifted as time went on.

2) The line about how an interview with Eron would be different shouldn't be a surprise. Eron has a brother who is part of that 0.03 percent who made it to the NBA. His and his families experience is likely different than anyone else who steps foot on Valpo's campus. I don't know about the neighborhood that Zion grew up in (other than what he alluded to in the interview) and I don't know about Eron's neighborhood either. What I do know is having a family member who has made millions and millions of dollars will definitely provide a different experience than someone who doesn't have access to that. It doesn't mean Zion's experience is any better or any worse than Eron's and vice versa.

3) Someone alluded to the word victim. Granted I was the one conducting the interview and oftentimes that proximity clouds the view, but I didn't hear Zion play the role of victim at all. One of the first words he said was "empowered." Maybe I'm mistaken here, but I don't think I was interviewing a victim. I was interviewing someone who has come to grips with a system that makes money on the backs of the players. He wasn't screaming "woe is me," he was simply pointing out his feelings that the system is broken.

4) I loved doing this interview and I love the conversation that comes from it. Whether or not he said things that people agree or disagree with, it is his experience. I've dealt with plenty of players over the years who only wanted to shoot a basketball and didn't want to open up. There were 17 guys on the roster last year. I wish I could do 17 of these interviews where the players would open up and be humans. The question is whether or not anyone would care what they have to say. Valpo Basketball player Zion Morgan is worth listening to. Is just Zion Morgan worth listening to? I certainly think so.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on May 06, 2021, 04:42:35 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on May 06, 2021, 04:17:28 PMin that he got lost in the shuffle with education

Great point and no doubt made shifting gears a difficult option particularly for a D1 basketball player and time management.  There are certainly dozens of Valpo athletes who graduate with a degree in many areas except Sports Management.  It is a particular "favorite" however  for our Men's basketball team.  Might that be due to the fact that many may have come from a not so good high school yet we don't care about that so much  if they can hit the 3. I remember Homer lamenting the fact that a player he was after didn't make it past the admissions process.  Valpo is not an easy place to study.  If you look at the football team, there are a LOT of engineering and nursing majors

In hindsight, perhaps Zion would have been better off at a place like Chicago State.  Students "look" like him and he would have perhaps been more comfortable than in lily white Valpo and the issues he is now concerned with would have been front and center all the time.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: humbleopinion on May 06, 2021, 05:10:21 PM
Quote from: vu72 on May 06, 2021, 04:42:35 PMIn hindsight, perhaps Zion would have been better off at a place like Chicago State. 

Perhaps that gets to his point.  If all of the best players from its neighborhood would stay home and play for Chicago State, what benefits would that accrue to the neighborhood?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on May 06, 2021, 05:25:30 PM
I get that Zion's path was different, and thus, his academic plans had to adjust, but it is still all on him.  If you think that Valpo is making money off college athletics, outside of the value equated to brand name recognition, you are crazy.  I could get that argument for the really large athletic programs, but it doesn't apply to all of D1 athletics.  I never felt like a 'slave to the system.'  College education has value, when other people are paying for what you are getting for free.  Any argument contrary to that is complete BS.  Plenty of us on the D1 athletics side, did not receive full rides like the Basketball players do at the D1 level.  Be appreciative of that fact. 

Now, I do get what he is saying, in that athletics can promise a path to those from underrepresented communities, which is made to seem more likely than reality demonstrates.  There are many people that interact with these folks before they get to the college level, filling them up with all kinds of BS.  A lot of that is the AAU system that developed over the years, and how those AAU coaches can eventually be promised college jobs.  I get that part.  The HBCU argument is faulty.  That all comes down to funding and support from alumni, just like any school.  The top kids could come to Valpo and get drafted in the NBA, just as much as if they went to an HBCU or P5.  If you want to say that part is the system, you need to look at the P5 universities trying to keep down smaller schools.  That is not an HBCU vs. all other schools thing.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpopal on May 06, 2021, 05:37:19 PM
This announcement seems appropriate here:


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Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on May 06, 2021, 06:34:36 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on May 06, 2021, 04:17:28 PMA few thoughts I have...

1) Zion is probably similar to a lot of college athletes in that he got lost in the shuffle with education. I've seen this first hand with transfers and the NCAA. My guess is he took certain classes at UNLV and then Wabash Valley that did or did not transfer to Valpo. Based on what transferred over probably dicatated what major he needed to pursue when he got to Valpo. The NCAA wants student-athletes to show they are on a Path to Graduate (I've capitalized this because it is an official term). Student-athletes need to show they are making progress toward their degree. From what Zion said in the interview, as he got older, his eyes started to open a bit more, and probably too late in the process for him to shift his major toward studying something of substance for what he wants to accomplish away from basketball. Many basketball players come to D1 schools with the idea of going pro and they don't always think about life away from basketball. By the time people shift that focus, it's often too late to take advantage of those academic opportunities. As for the comparison to Kiser, he came in with an academic plan. He stayed that course and basketball was a supplemental experience. I'd argue that Zion came into college with a plan of being a professional basketball player and his plan shifted as time went on.

1) I get it, I think you have heard me say this before, we had kids and even father's who complained and thought we were ruining their chance to make it in the NBA. This was an NAIA program and yes we had some guys get drafted in the G/D-League or play at a fairly high level in Europe, but when you are the 8th man on the roster you are not going to the NBA. Because his eyes have started to open, I hope Zion can interject realistic expectations into the "system" for young Black men. Path to Graduate is a thing at all college levels, I agree that the transferring probably made things more difficult for him to take advantage of academic opportunities. I agree that his truth and his life experiences and the experiences of kids from his "hood" are different than Kiser's and that this might lead to different "plans". Perhaps that comparison was not the best, but I chose Kiser because they shared some time on the same team.

2) I was not the person who suggested Eron and I agree that Eron's experience would be much different because of his brother. So let's instead use Vashil to make the comparison. In every category, other than the transfer situation, Vashil's experiences would have been even more dire than Zion's, yet the two interviews were drastically different in tone. I don't think I even need to contrast the differences. Since you did both interviews I think it would be interesting for you to contrast Vashil's plan (he talks about having a plan) versus Zion's plan. Why does one player think he is on a plantation while the other takes off and accomplishes his dreams and is contributing and helping the community.

3) I don't think that he currently thinks he is a victim, that his eyes that have been opened and he has gotten out of the system, but that he and other people in the "system" were and are being victimized. I think he wants to now help young men to be more realistic in their expectations and that athletes that were in the system and have made it to the highest levels of their sport need to give much more back to their community. I just hope he realizes that personal decisions and responsibilities are what really make the difference.

4) I enjoyed this interview, it was good to hear his confidence and also his passion for helping his community. As someone whose wife and I have been very involved in education, It made me really sad to hear that his educational experience was not really close to what it could or should have been. Just listening to Zion Morgan was certainly worth it.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Just Sayin on May 06, 2021, 07:50:40 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on May 06, 2021, 04:17:28 PM
A few thoughts I have...

1) Zion is probably similar to a lot of college athletes in that he got lost in the shuffle with education. I've seen this first hand with transfers and the NCAA. My guess is he took certain classes at UNLV and then Wabash Valley that did or did not transfer to Valpo. Based on what transferred over probably dicatated what major he needed to pursue when he got to Valpo. The NCAA wants student-athletes to show they are on a Path to Graduate (I've capitalized this because it is an official term). Student-athletes need to show they are making progress toward their degree. From what Zion said in the interview, as he got older, his eyes started to open a bit more, and probably too late in the process for him to shift his major toward studying something of substance for what he wants to accomplish away from basketball. Many basketball players come to D1 schools with the idea of going pro and they don't always think about life away from basketball. By the time people shift that focus, it's often too late to take advantage of those academic opportunities. As for the comparison to Kiser, he came in with an academic plan. He stayed that course and basketball was a supplemental experience. I'd argue that Zion came into college with a plan of being a professional basketball player and his plan shifted as time went on.

2) The line about how an interview with Eron would be different shouldn't be a surprise. Eron has a brother who is part of that 0.03 percent who made it to the NBA. His and his families experience is likely different than anyone else who steps foot on Valpo's campus. I don't know about the neighborhood that Zion grew up in (other than what he alluded to in the interview) and I don't know about Eron's neighborhood either. What I do know is having a family member who has made millions and millions of dollars will definitely provide a different experience than someone who doesn't have access to that. It doesn't mean Zion's experience is any better or any worse than Eron's and vice versa.

3) Someone alluded to the word victim. Granted I was the one conducting the interview and oftentimes that proximity clouds the view, but I didn't hear Zion play the role of victim at all. One of the first words he said was "empowered." Maybe I'm mistaken here, but I don't think I was interviewing a victim. I was interviewing someone who has come to grips with a system that makes money on the backs of the players. He wasn't screaming "woe is me," he was simply pointing out his feelings that the system is broken.

4) I loved doing this interview and I love the conversation that comes from it. Whether or not he said things that people agree or disagree with, it is his experience. I've dealt with plenty of players over the years who only wanted to shoot a basketball and didn't want to open up. There were 17 guys on the roster last year. I wish I could do 17 of these interviews where the players would open up and be humans. The question is whether or not anyone would care what they have to say. Valpo Basketball player Zion Morgan is worth listening to. Is just Zion Morgan worth listening to? I certainly think so.

::)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: EddieCabot on May 06, 2021, 09:25:46 PM
I finally had a chance to listen and I agree with Morgan and Paul.  It's shame that Valpo made so much money off of Morgan and all he got was a free education.  I think this will change somewhat if the NCAA approves NIL rights for athletes ... in that case, stars like Morgan will be able to earn $ equal to their real value.  Guys like Morgan are driving change.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: humbleopinion on May 07, 2021, 05:59:28 AM
Quote from: EddieCabot on May 06, 2021, 09:25:46 PM
I finally had a chance to listen and I agree with Morgan and Paul.  It's shame that Valpo made so much money off of Morgan and all he got was a free education.  I think this will change somewhat if the NCAA approves NIL rights for athletes ... in that case, stars like Morgan will be able to earn $ equal to their real value.  Guys like Morgan are driving change.  :thumbsup:
I really don't think that this gets to his point. I don't think that he was so concerned about personal financial gain. He implied that last summer's events (i.e. the George Floyd protests) directed his attention to problems within his community that he had ignored as his focus was so strongly fixed on basketball. 

I would imagine that his thoughts around the problems are still fermenting and not thoroughly distilled.  I would like to hear from him what changes he think could address his concerns.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on May 07, 2021, 07:11:13 AM
Quote from: Pgmado on May 06, 2021, 04:17:28 PM
Someone alluded to the word victim. Granted I was the one conducting the interview and oftentimes that proximity clouds the view, but I didn't hear Zion play the role of victim at all. One of the first words he said was "empowered." Maybe I'm mistaken here, but I don't think I was interviewing a victim. I was interviewing someone who has come to grips with a system that makes money on the backs of the players. He wasn't screaming "woe is me," he was simply pointing out his feelings that the system is broken.

Marxist organizations in this country have built a campaign of victimhood around lies and misconceptions to play on people's emotions and play one group against another. This issue is a perfect example.

The premise that universities are making money on the backs of student athletes is a complete fabrication. Of the literally thousands of 2-year and 4-year universities with athletic programs at every level and division, only a handful turn a profit.

In case you're wondering why these people would make this garbage up, I think the answer could be found, in part, in this quote:

"People would rather live in a community with unreasonable claims, than face loneliness with their truth."

Do Colleges Make Money
From Athletics?
Mark J. Drozdowski, Ed.D.
BY MARK J. DROZDOWSKI, ED.D.
Published on November 16, 2020

https://www.bestcolleges.com/blog/do-college-sports-make-money/
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on May 07, 2021, 07:51:46 AM
I find it utterly fascinating that we constantly argue that the university needs to invest in its basketball team for a massive return on investment but then immediately roll our eyes when players say the system makes other people money.



Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpopal on May 07, 2021, 08:57:44 AM
Quote from: crusader05 on May 07, 2021, 07:51:46 AM
I find it utterly fascinating that we constantly argue that the university needs to invest in its basketball team for a massive return on investment but then immediately roll our eyes when players say the system makes other people money.


A "full" athletic scholarship covers the costs of tuition, fees, room and board, and books. At Valparaiso University that likely totals more than $60,000 per year, and about 250,000 for four years. Multiply that by 13 men's basketball scholarships: $3,250,000. (This does not include the added lifetime earning potential gained by attaining a degree at a reputable university.) That is why I roll my eyes if a VU basketball player objects that "the system makes other people money."
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on May 07, 2021, 09:02:54 AM
but, as we often argue, if a basketball team is successful it can bring in more students who will pay some form of tuition. If a basketball team of 13 scholarship players wins and increases enrollment are they not bringing in money? Have we not talked about the money Valpo is getting from Loyola and Drake players winning in the tournament?

That's all the system, a system is larger than one point at one time. We talk about AAU teams and how high schools poach students and how players have people in their ears telling them where to go and when. It's all the system and noone acts like that if there's not money involved.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: mj on May 07, 2021, 10:13:57 AM
Quote from: valpopal on May 07, 2021, 08:57:44 AMA "full" athletic scholarship covers the costs of tuition, fees, room and board, and books. At Valparaiso University that likely totals more than $60,000 per year, and about 250,000 for four years. Multiply that by 13 men's basketball scholarships: $3,250,000. (This does not include the added lifetime earning potential gained by attaining a degree at a reputable university.) That is why I roll my eyes if a VU basketball player objects that "the system makes other people money."

I don't think it's quite that simple. A regular student at VU pays tuition and receives an education in return.

But when you're talking about athletics, instead of paying tuition, a basketball player "pays" by playing. In return he gets an education. However, you have the added wrinkle that basketball also makes hundreds of millions of dollars for the NCAA. Valpo gets a small piece of that since they're part of the system. And Morgan realized he played a role in that system.

What's the cost to VU to provide an education?  Probably not that much. You've got a lot of fixed costs that are spread out among all the students. And it's not as though a basketball player is taking a spot of student who otherwise would be paying full tuition. So to say that a basketball player received $250K worth of education benefits is suspect.

Then of course you have the fact that many athletes can't get the full education experience because of their commitment to athletics (Note: Kiser was the exception not the rule)

I got the sense that Morgan looked at this and realized it's not a fair trade. When considering the amount of money that basketball generates, the education pales in comparison.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpopal on May 07, 2021, 10:42:39 AM
Quote from: mj on May 07, 2021, 10:13:57 AM
Quote from: valpopal on May 07, 2021, 08:57:44 AMA "full" athletic scholarship covers the costs of tuition, fees, room and board, and books. At Valparaiso University that likely totals more than $60,000 per year, and about 250,000 for four years. Multiply that by 13 men's basketball scholarships: $3,250,000. (This does not include the added lifetime earning potential gained by attaining a degree at a reputable university.) That is why I roll my eyes if a VU basketball player objects that "the system makes other people money."

I don't think it's quite that simple. A regular student at VU pays tuition and receives an education in return.

But when you're talking about athletics, instead of paying tuition, a basketball player "pays" by playing. In return he gets an education. However, you have the added wrinkle that basketball also makes hundreds of millions of dollars for the NCAA. Valpo gets a small piece of that since they're part of the system. And Morgan realized he played a role in that system.

What's the cost to VU to provide an education?  Probably not that much. You've got a lot of fixed costs that are spread out among all the students. And it's not as though a basketball player is taking a spot of student who otherwise would be paying full tuition. So to say that a basketball player received $250K worth of education benefits is suspect.

Then of course you have the fact that many athletes can't get the full education experience because of their commitment to athletics (Note: Kiser was the exception not the rule)

I got the sense that Morgan looked at this and realized it's not a fair trade. When considering the amount of money that basketball generates, the education pales in comparison.


Yes, a basketball player "pays by playing." I don't question that. I had a job and worked my way through all four years of college as well, as did my wife and millions of other students, though a lot less enjoyable employment than playing a sport. However, I do question the opinion that "to say that a basketball player received $250K worth of education benefits is suspect." It is verifiable. I also question the conclusion "that many athletes can't get the full education because of their commitment to athletics." The athletics department, faculty, and university administration provide support staff and make all sorts of accommodations or allowances to compensate for the "commitment to athletics." Additionally, many of the basketball players are on campus taking courses during summer sessions, so their academic workloads can be lessened during seasons of play. In fact, look at how many athletes are able to finish a degree in three years and begin graduate studies!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: elephtheria47 on May 07, 2021, 10:54:01 AM
Ah. America. Where people have the freedom to make whatever choices they want. Noone is forcing anyone to play sports in college.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on May 07, 2021, 11:27:14 AM
By that logic no one should ever have the right to criticize anything because they made a choice to be a part of it/enjoy it.

The ability to self-reflect, make decisions, and develop an opinion on ourselves and things we are a part of is pretty much a human condition and how things get better or how people grow.

He decided he didn't think the system was healthy for him or healthy in general and he choose to leave it earlier than he had too. That's a choice as well that he gets to make and he gets to talk about.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on May 07, 2021, 11:36:24 AM
Quote from: mj on May 07, 2021, 10:13:57 AM
Quote from: valpopal on May 07, 2021, 08:57:44 AMA "full" athletic scholarship covers the costs of tuition, fees, room and board, and books. At Valparaiso University that likely totals more than $60,000 per year, and about 250,000 for four years. Multiply that by 13 men's basketball scholarships: $3,250,000. (This does not include the added lifetime earning potential gained by attaining a degree at a reputable university.) That is why I roll my eyes if a VU basketball player objects that "the system makes other people money."

I don't think it's quite that simple. A regular student at VU pays tuition and receives an education in return.

But when you're talking about athletics, instead of paying tuition, a basketball player "pays" by playing. In return he gets an education. However, you have the added wrinkle that basketball also makes hundreds of millions of dollars for the NCAA. Valpo gets a small piece of that since they're part of the system. And Morgan realized he played a role in that system.

What's the cost to VU to provide an education?  Probably not that much. You've got a lot of fixed costs that are spread out among all the students. And it's not as though a basketball player is taking a spot of student who otherwise would be paying full tuition. So to say that a basketball player received $250K worth of education benefits is suspect.

Then of course you have the fact that many athletes can't get the full education experience because of their commitment to athletics (Note: Kiser was the exception not the rule)

I got the sense that Morgan looked at this and realized it's not a fair trade. When considering the amount of money that basketball generates, the education pales in comparison.

Did you just blow past my earlier post?

"The premise that universities are making money on the backs of student athletes is a complete fabrication. Of the literally thousands of 2-year and 4-year universities with athletic programs at every level and division, only a handful turn a profit." Let me put it another way. With the exception of a few big time college athletic programs, the money athletic departments raise helps defray the financial burden of the programs they run, including player scholarships. Valparaiso University hasn't profited one dime "off the back of" Zion Morgan.

As to the value of his education, I don't care if he got a General Studies degree, it's valuable. Just last night, my son-in-law was telling me about his brother's struggle to get through college. He went to 3 universities over 6 years and finally "settled" for a General Studies degree becausee he didn't have enough of any one thing to declare a major. He started out as a sales clerk at a Sherwin-Williams retail store. He worked hard and got noticed. He was asked if he would be interested in their company management training program. He said I don't have a business degree, just a general studies degree from Trine University. They said the only qualification was that he have a bachelor's degree. It could be in anything. Cutting to the chase, he went through the program, was assigned as a store manager at another location, and 10 years later he is a district manager in industrial sales and makes $250,000.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpo64 on May 07, 2021, 11:56:10 AM
I wonder if Zion would speak differently/attitudes/etc. if he had been a star at his previous school and then at Valpo?  Perhaps not reaching his perceived or hoped for level of success with respect to college basketball had some effect on his outlook and comments.  ?????
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: mj on May 07, 2021, 12:05:53 PM
Quote from: valpopal on May 07, 2021, 10:42:39 AMI had a job and worked my way through all four years of college as well, as did my wife and millions of other students, though a lot less enjoyable employment than playing a sport.

Right, basketball is a job for athletes. That's one of the points Morgan was making.

Quote from: valpopal on May 07, 2021, 10:42:39 AMHowever, I do question the opinion that "to say that a basketball player received $250K worth of education benefits is suspect." It is verifiable.

My point is that referencing the "sticker price" of VU to determine the value of the education is misleading. Would that mean that an athlete at a public school is "paid" less than a VU athlete?

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: mj on May 07, 2021, 12:18:11 PM
Quote from: wh on May 07, 2021, 11:36:24 AM"The premise that universities are making money on the backs of student athletes is a complete fabrication. Of the literally thousands of 2-year and 4-year universities with athletic programs at every level and division, only a handful turn a profit." Let me put it another way. With the exception of a few big time college athletic programs, the money athletic departments raise helps defray the financial burden of the programs they run, including player scholarships. Valparaiso University hasn't profited one dime "off the back of" Zion Morgan.

How much are coaches getting paid? How much are NCAA administrators getting paid? Valpo is a part of a larger system, of which Morgan played a role. There are individuals who are living large as a result of college athletics.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on May 07, 2021, 12:36:04 PM
Quote from: mj on May 07, 2021, 12:18:11 PM
Quote from: wh on May 07, 2021, 11:36:24 AM"The premise that universities are making money on the backs of student athletes is a complete fabrication. Of the literally thousands of 2-year and 4-year universities with athletic programs at every level and division, only a handful turn a profit." Let me put it another way. With the exception of a few big time college athletic programs, the money athletic departments raise helps defray the financial burden of the programs they run, including player scholarships. Valparaiso University hasn't profited one dime "off the back of" Zion Morgan.

How much are coaches getting paid? How much are NCAA administrators getting paid? Valpo is a part of a larger system, of which Morgan played a role. There are individuals who are living large as a result of college athletics.

How much money do professors make? Or college administrators? Are they making money on the backs of tuition-paying students?

And, no, there isn't a difference. Both examples are equally illogical (the least offensive term I could think of).
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on May 07, 2021, 02:47:56 PM
It is complete horsesh!t to say that basketball players have more of a job at Valpo, versus other sports.  Team and individual practice time is very similar, and they have less games.  It comes down to what your individual priorities are.  If you thought that you would make it professionally in basketball, you potentially make the personal decision to not focus on your studies as much.  Baseball plays 50-60 games per year, and you are going to tell me that Basketball has more of a job in college?  Give me an f'ing break.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: FWalum on May 07, 2021, 03:04:05 PM
Quote from: mj on May 07, 2021, 12:05:53 PMQuote from: valpopal on Today at 11:42:39 AM
However, I do question the opinion that "to say that a basketball player received $250K worth of education benefits is suspect." It is verifiable.

My point is that referencing the "sticker price" of VU to determine the value of the education is misleading. Would that mean that an athlete at a public school is "paid" less than a VU athlete?

I guess we have been a little hasty with the numbers.  It appears that the average Valpo undergrad pays around $35,804 for cost of attendance because 78% of students get some sort of scholarship monies with the average grant being $25,772.  Valpo is a non-profit private school with fewer sources of income than a non-profit public university which derives fewer income dollars from tuition (and additional income from things like taxes) when compared to a Valpo. So if you equate an athletes "pay" to the actual cost per student the "pay" to a public school athlete would in most cases be higher because private schools, in general, have a lower cost per student. Apples to apples, short and sweet the "pay" should equate to the actual cost per student. So at a salary of $35,804 the Valpo Basketball player makes more than the average salary of a G-League player. Is that a fair deal? Doesn't sound too bad to me.

Quote from: wh on May 07, 2021, 12:36:04 PMQuote from: mj on Today at 01:18:11 PM
Quote from: wh on Today at 12:36:24 PM
"The premise that universities are making money on the backs of student athletes is a complete fabrication. Of the literally thousands of 2-year and 4-year universities with athletic programs at every level and division, only a handful turn a profit." Let me put it another way. With the exception of a few big time college athletic programs, the money athletic departments raise helps defray the financial burden of the programs they run, including player scholarships. Valparaiso University hasn't profited one dime "off the back of" Zion Morgan.

How much are coaches getting paid? How much are NCAA administrators getting paid? Valpo is a part of a larger system, of which Morgan played a role. There are individuals who are living large as a result of college athletics.

How much money do professors make? Or college administrators? Are they making money on the backs of tuition-paying students?

And, no, there isn't a difference. Both examples are equally illogical (the least offensive term I could think of).

Why stop at professors and administrators, what about the facility management, book store workers, cooks and janitors? All of these people need to be paid otherwise there would be one less place for players to play, get an education and potentially achieve their dream. Should coaches and players make 10-50 times more than the POTUS, Supreme Court Justices or our greatest scientists? Should the highest paid employees in the state of Indiana be public university coaches making millions of dollars? I don't know the answers to these questions. I can tell you that when I was involved at an NAIA school 11 years ago the full time MBB coach made less than $50,000 per year. The vast majority of coaches and players are not coaching and playing because they are killing it in the "system". I don't think that there are many if any universities that are in the business of sports because it is making them money as a stand alone business.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on May 07, 2021, 03:41:21 PM
My oldest grandson is a top 5 HS thrower in his state in 2 events. He's 6-5/285 and is built like a tank. His whole life has revolved around training, lifting, practicing, camps, national events, and HS track. He has over $30,000 in scholarships in his freshman year at the private university he chose and assurances of more in his sophomore year. That said, he recently told mom and dad that he was burnt out and was done throwing at the end of the school year. So, now he will be attending the same expensive private university as a regular student, something mom and dad can't afford to pay for by themselves, so he will be working summer jobs instead of training, and will still have a load of debt to carry into his adult life.  The choice he made is available to every scholarship athlete in any sport at any time. And, if they don't like that option, don't go to college like millions of other young people. The bottom line is nobody's holding a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to play sports and get used and abused by "the system."
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on August 15, 2021, 04:49:42 PM
Anxiously waiting on Paul's next USH episode to discuss the Beacons and Logos. Knowing Paul, he may be giving it a week or two to digest and get a scope public reaction. I kind of have a sense of that he thinks University Nicknames are overrated but I'm wondering what he thinks about those in-house logos...

I've made my opinions known on twitter. I can get on board with The Beacons. It fits Valparaiso. It might not be everyone's top choice but it at least makes sense to a degree.

As for as logos... I'm not onboard with the logos. I feel bad for kind of saying they aren't great because a Valpo employee probably worked hard but I'm not going to shy away for saying something is bad because it hurts someone's feelings. It is really important they get the logo(s) right!

Hire a graphic design firm, have a contest, have graphic designers submit logo proposals and give a cash prize to the winner that is actually poll tested with constituents of the University! It is sadly believable that the University leadership went on the cheap of something so important. Logos are an outwards representation of the University and President Padilla and his Team absolutely dropped the ball on the logos...

Please don't settle!!

https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1425149414277099523?s=21
https://twitter.com/valpo_hoops/status/1426265109928755210?s=21
https://twitter.com/brydfly/status/1426578137811496961?s=21
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on August 15, 2021, 06:49:54 PM
Heading out of town for a couple days for one last unplugging before high school and college sports start in earnest. I'll be back with a pod next Friday.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUSERF on August 15, 2021, 09:51:30 PM
Paul,

If possible can you amplify alternative logo ideas or discuss opportunities for other artists to showcase their ideas? Especially the artwork concept released by Bryan Flynn on Twitter?

I think that this would be a wonderful NWI Times piece and USH episode. Your discussion of these alternatives may help VU admin, alumni, and faculty/staff see what creativity exists amongst passionate Valpo supporters.

Thanks for all you do!

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on August 15, 2021, 10:34:32 PM
Someone hire Bryan Flynn to do it right.  The name sucks, but that doesn't mean that the logo needs to match in the amount of suck...
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpo64 on August 16, 2021, 09:59:33 AM
The more I see, the more the whole thing sucks!  I hope this isn't an indication of how this new Administration handles things.  If so, the School is in real trouble.  One half-ass approach is enough.  As stated in an earlier comment, do it right the first time.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bb33 on August 16, 2021, 10:16:52 AM
I could have gotten behind the Beacon nickname but NOT with the current logo/theme/artwork. If they made it inspiring instead of elementary, I think the transition could go smoother.  Not smooth but at least give the Valpo community something to be proud of.   What I have seen so far has been lackluster.  I personally was rooting for the Dunehawks.  The mock logos I have seen were super cool.  I think we all could have embraced it.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUBBFan on August 20, 2021, 06:08:14 PM
!00% agree with Paul's take on the Nickname. Beacons is a good name for the University. All students can buy into it, not just the Athletes. The Logo designs are lacking as well as a Mascot ( Hoping for a Koala  :)). I am also a fan of Bryan's designs

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1428829457750577155
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on August 21, 2021, 03:26:10 AM
Quote from: Pgmado on August 15, 2021, 06:49:54 PM
Heading out of town for a couple days for one last unplugging before high school and college sports start in earnest. I'll be back with a pod next Friday.

As crappy as the Beacons name is, I do have to say that your choice of podcast distribution is even crappier.  Go SiriusXM/Pandora/Stitcher ;).
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on August 21, 2021, 10:45:39 AM
Good in-depth analysis.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on September 13, 2021, 05:03:21 AM
Listened on Stitcher, which was a wise choice by PO ;).  Although, you can't go wrong with SoundCloud, another way that I can be a company Homer :)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on November 04, 2021, 08:54:53 PM
Looking forward to this episode.

People are so irritated about these 2 exhibitions not just because of the performances but also because who the losses are to. It legitimately embarrassing. It doesn't matter if they are good D2s. It's turns Valpo into a punchline on social media.

the good vibes with fans and students going into the season are gone and need to be earned back. The Team will be better once healthy and with everyone but we can't lose to D2s, let alone 2 of them back to back.

https://twitter.com/nwioren/status/1456017277892050949?s=21
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VUGrad1314 on November 04, 2021, 10:39:53 PM
Well at least Lottich still hasn't lost to a non D1 in the regular season... So that's something... I don't know guys I got nothing here... It really begs the question when we'll win another game. Maybe Trinity Christian?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Pgmado on November 05, 2021, 03:45:01 PM
Not sure anything in here will make you feel better or worse, but at least it won't be Aaron Rodgers.

https://t.co/rBnKeXYVfE
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: JD24 on November 05, 2021, 08:13:36 PM
I can't say it makes me feel better or worse but nice 'cast.

Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on November 05, 2021, 08:47:12 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on November 05, 2021, 03:45:01 PM
Not sure anything in here will make you feel better or worse, but at least it won't be Aaron Rodgers.

https://t.co/rBnKeXYVfE

Excellent! Picking up on a couple of Paul's comments:

I have long thought that beating a woefully inferior opponent in an exhibition game by 50 points is essentially useless. You're playing a talent level you're never going to face again during the regular season, using rotations you're never going to use again. No pressure. You don't have to crank up the energy or focus. Everything you do works. It's like theater actors doing a backstage walk-through, reading off their scripts.

In contrast, we just had 2 dress rehearsals before opening night. So what if Trevor got a little gassed. Better to get that out of his system now than against Toledo. So what if regular rotation guys had to play 32 minutes. That's what they're going to be doing for real on Tuesday. Preston performed, Darius and Joe didn't. Better to find out who's ready and who isn't now, rather than learn it the hard way on Tuesday. Surprisingly, Eron bricked every 3 he took. For whatever reason, he looked very uncomfortable most of the time he was on the court. Hopefully, he's gotten that out of his system and will come ready on Tuesday. This is all value-add, and like I said a windfall benefit for sure of playing 2 very good, extremely well coached, veteran D-2 powerhouses. (Yes, at their level, they are powerhouses.)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: nkvu on November 05, 2021, 09:59:02 PM
Enjoyed the podcast. I think he captured my feelings pretty well. I'll judge the team on how they do when they get all their pieces playing together. Till then I think they will struggle to be competitive against any decent team.

One thing Paul did point out at length was that the teams we just played and the top teams in the MVC have all played together for years and our team hasn't. That's true. But whose fault is that?  Our best player left the program via transfer two years ago. There was a mass exodus of players last year. You could argue that in some cases the players who left were an addition by subtraction, and that some of the new guys have more talent. I won't argue that. Still, I don't like the trend. Either we are recruiting the wrong players or something about the program is causing the players to bail on it.  That's all on the coaching staff. It makes little sense to redshirt freshman if they just transfer after a year or two. I hope Valpo has addressed how to retain their best players or we will never compete with the top teams in our conference.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: Chairback on November 06, 2021, 12:46:13 PM
Always great podcasts. Thank you again PO.  I can't imagine not having these to enjoy. We are lucky.   

To answer the question what do you want to see from these type games:

1) some sort of offensive flow.  It was said they have been practicing since June.  Even if we missed every shot I'd there was good movement I'd be somewhat happy.  This is not a new issue. 
2) in game adjustments from the coach.  Opponents will run the same play over on us and we are slow to figure it out.

We understand that they are good d2 teams, however we are a good D1 team and we shouldn't look this bad. 

And what If it doesn't improve?  We can only have so many excuses. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on November 06, 2021, 01:40:53 PM
Quote from: Chairback on November 06, 2021, 12:46:13 PM
Always great podcasts. Thank you again PO.  I can't imagine not having these to enjoy. We are lucky.   

To answer the question what do you want to see from these type games:

1) some sort of offensive flow.  It was said they have been practicing since June.  Even if we missed every shot I'd there was good movement I'd be somewhat happy.  This is not a new issue. 
2) in game adjustments from the coach.  Opponents will run the same play over on us and we are slow to figure it out.

We understand that they are good d2 teams, however we are a good D1 team and we shouldn't look this bad. 

And what If it doesn't improve?  We can only have so many excuses. 


I think Matt is the right coach doing the right things, as evidenced by the talented group he has assembled. My opinion can only turn on one thing - not meeting my personal expectations for the season. I expect nothing less than a 3rd place finish in conference this year, followed by winning the league and conf. tournament next year. Between now and then, I will remain his strongest advocate and biggest supporter. I hope that never has to change, but that isn't up to me.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vok22 on November 06, 2021, 01:51:02 PM
I clicked through a few of the D2 top 25 games vs D1 exhibitions that have been played this year. Almost every single game has been decided by single digits. Including last night when Miles lost at Kentucky by 9. They received 1 vote in the Division 2 top 25. In fact, Toledo beat Findlay college by 5 after rallying from down 11 with 10 minutes left. Would they have been able to do that when missing 3 key players? So I am fairly certain that, especially this year with so many 5th year seniors, the playing field is going to be a lot more even than we've seen in the past. Now when it comes to the offense, I have only been able to listen on radio, so I haven't actually seen the offense myself. It seems like people are complaining the offense is still stagnant. That is really concerning to me because that has been a problem for 4 years now, and Lottich said this summer that they are installing a new offense this year, so I was hoping to see that change. That being said, I have noticed a few positives from the offense so far just looking at the stat sheet. Last season, we only had 2 players average double figures (barely, as Clay averaged 10.1 ppg). Through 2 exhibitions, we have had 7 double figure scorers, and that number would likely be 9 if Krikke was healthy. We are also averaging 8 more ppg through than we did all of last year despite having a bench thats leading career minutes player was EMIL. Just from listening to the radio, it seems like 90% of the offensive struggles have come with the bench in the game, which isn't really a concern of mine yet as when healthy the bench will look completely different. That being said, every team will have to deal with injuries every year, so that is no excuse. We have to be prepared to step up and fill those missing pieces. It is difficult to fill 3 key missing pieces at once no matter who you are, though. Either way, I can't wait to be able to watch the game against Toledo. Will not have to debate about the quality of the opponent, as they are picked to finish 3rd in the division 1 MAC. I really hope that at least Krikke will be able to play, although I have my doubts. A win in this game would be a really good win to start the season.



Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bbtds on November 07, 2021, 09:06:19 AM
Quote from: vok22 on November 06, 2021, 01:51:02 PMI really hope that at least Krikke will be able to play, although I have my doubts.

It was mentioned during the radio broadcast of the football game vs Presbyterian that Krikke would be back for the game against Toledo.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: tjjvalpo on November 07, 2021, 09:26:45 AM
Krikke's return will be huge. I think the new offense that Lottich talked about is dependent on Krikke and Kithier being both on the floor at the same time. Without Krikke, this could be why they looked lost at times.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: bb33 on November 11, 2021, 12:39:27 PM
Finally had the chance to listen to the podcast and I am sort of glad I listened to it after the Toledo game.  It was interesting to hear why or why not Young should redshirt, which now obviously he is not.  I think it is the right move.  By January, Young will have enough experience to start making an impact.  Add Ben and Kobe and this team will be tough and bear no resemblance to the team who played on Thursday.

You talked about facts or excuses. Does it matter?  Maybe a little, but it's November!   This is the time to be optimistic about the team.  See our flaws and shortcomings and hope they can be turned around.  At the end of January, we will either be pumped up or calling for Matt's head.  But until then, I say the glass is half full.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VALPO LI on December 13, 2021, 04:55:43 PM
Without further ado here is the latest Union Street Hoops!!!!
President Padilla joins Paul for a great episode that touches on everything from his own family to the Beacon Family!!!


https://omny.fm/shows/union-street-hoops/the-jose-padilla-episode?in_playlist=union-street-hoops!podcast
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on December 13, 2021, 06:20:03 PM
Great interview!  President Padilla will be a difference maker.  The right person at the right time!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on December 14, 2021, 06:58:35 AM
Another outstanding PO podcast. The President Padilla interview is a must listen.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: AlaskaCrusader19 on December 14, 2021, 09:52:33 AM
Great interview with Padilla. It was interesting to hear him describe Valpo Football as "not real Division 1 football." That's a lot of money being spent on a program that received that type of comment.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: JD24 on December 14, 2021, 11:32:45 AM
Quote from: AlaskaCrusader19 on December 14, 2021, 09:52:33 AMGreat interview with Padilla. It was interesting to hear him describe Valpo Football as "not real Division 1 football." That's a lot of money being spent on a program that received that type of comment.
Don't the money games pay for more than the football program?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on December 14, 2021, 11:35:43 AM
Yeah, between tuition money, the pay games, and the deep pockets of donors due to it's longevity, plus it's bringing in 100 plus male students I think it's important to remember that the football program does a lot for the university just not in the way we think of when we think of sports helping the bottom line of a university.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpopal on December 16, 2021, 03:16:00 PM
Quote from: vu72 on December 13, 2021, 06:20:03 PM
Great interview!  President Padilla will be a difference maker.  The right person at the right time!
I finally had an opportunity to listen to the podcast. I agree with others that Padilla has displayed an enthusiasm and personal commitment by appearing at various sporting events. His ability to encourage others at the volleyball rally and elsewhere is undeniable, and it is refreshing to see his spirit when it comes to sports. In the interview, I also found him to be saying all the right things, as he has in the dozen or so times I have seen him speak in person during the past year. Though he often tends to speak only in generalities where he can not be pinned down, perhaps reflecting his background in politics, and I don't mean that as a criticism. There were no specific details, commitments, or plans mentioned, which I would like to hear in the near future and will expect after spring semester's strategic planning stage is complete. When discussing the new nickname, he didn't even mention the subject of the still nonexistent mascot, even though the fall season is now over and basketball has already begun conference play.

On the other hand, the first half of the podcast should not be overlooked. With Paul's comments about student enthusiasm or lack of it as well as the basketball season restarting, the questionable decision-making in the Charlotte game, Lottich's willingness to assume responsibility for the loss, and an absolute need to win the next three games as momentum to resumption of conference play, this was perhaps Paul's best 25 minutes of analysis thus far. 
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: usc4valpo on December 17, 2021, 06:16:15 AM
Excellent interview. I have a feeling he wants more success in sports than other previous presidents. My only concern was his engagement at DePaul where basketball tanked with an incredibly inept AD. I hope he saw what lessons can be learned. I will say that allowing alcohol sales at sporting events was way overdue and I would guess the old guard was not on board.

Regarding football, now I see why Valpo continues to participate - it brings in male students and revenue. We now know officially what it is and where it stands.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: JD24 on December 17, 2021, 12:53:58 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on December 17, 2021, 06:16:15 AMRegarding football, now I see why Valpo continues to participate - it brings in male students and revenue. We now know officially what it is and where it stands.
Join the club!
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: David81 on December 17, 2021, 03:18:06 PM
Great interview with President Padilla. Three things struck me as significant: He (1) knows and loves sports; (2) understands the important but balanced role of sports at a school like VU, for players and students/fans alike; and (3) looks for common ground but is willing to make tough decisions and live with them. I think folks who care about the future of sports at VU have reason to be optimistic.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VALPO LI on December 17, 2021, 07:48:31 PM
Quote from: JD24 on December 17, 2021, 12:53:58 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on December 17, 2021, 06:16:15 AMRegarding football, now I see why Valpo continues to participate - it brings in male students and revenue. We now know officially what it is and where it stands.
Join the club!

Without tooting anyone's horn but Paul Oren spoke about this topic on a previous Union Streets Hoops episode when Valpo dropped men's soccer.  Posters questioned why wouldn't the University drop an expensive to run sport like football instead.  The answer, 100 male students that pay tuition.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: crusader05 on December 18, 2021, 09:18:46 AM
I think it's important to remember that while at DePaul he was the General Counsel. It really wasn't up to him about sports decisions etc.
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VALPO LI on December 24, 2021, 09:33:45 AM
A little Union Street Hoops for Christmas!
-Frohe Weihnachten Beacon Family!

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1474064304873918473

https://omny.fm/shows/union-street-hoops/tbt-the-cru
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: valpotx on December 24, 2021, 04:41:44 PM
Quote from: VALPO LI on December 24, 2021, 09:33:45 AM
A little Union Street Hoops for Christmas!
-Frohe Weihnachten Beacon Family!

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1474064304873918473

https://omny.fm/shows/union-street-hoops/tbt-the-cru


I can't listen until it updates on Stitcher :)
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: VU2014 on March 05, 2023, 03:29:28 PM
We need a post-Mortem USH/TVB podcast episode...


Where does this program and athletics department go from here...?
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: wh on March 05, 2023, 06:07:50 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 05, 2023, 03:29:28 PM
We need a post-Mortem USH/TVB podcast episode...


Where does this program and athletics department go from here...?

At first glance I read this as "post modern...". I thought 'oh great, someone's trying tie moral relativism or the like to the art piece debate.' Only on this board with its high board IQ would my mind go there. lol
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: tiny707 on April 20, 2023, 10:10:10 AM
Need a new assistant coaches episode please...
Title: Re: Union Street Hoops
Post by: vu72 on April 20, 2023, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: tiny707 on April 20, 2023, 10:10:10 AM
Need a new assistant coaches episode please...

Union Street Hoops no longer exists.  Subscribe to The Victory Bell.  There is an article out this morning.

https://www.thevictorybell.com/