Both games 3:00 PM central tipoff with ours on ESPN+ and the other on ESPN2. One of these games is pretty meaningless and the other is hoping to draw 10,000 fans for all the marbles and the #1 Valley seed. I think I will be watching ESPN2. Who will be with me?
Quote from: justducky on February 25, 2023, 05:26:41 PM
Both games 3:00 PM central tipoff with ours on ESPN+ and the other on ESPN2. One of these games is pretty meaningless and the other is hoping to draw 10,000 fans for all the marbles and the #1 Valley seed. I think I will be watching ESPN2. Who will be with me?
Nope. I'm actually going to St Louis. I have family in St Louis & Missouri & St Louis has a new MLS team (St Louis City SC) which I am buying a home team kit and you have to pick it up. They are not delivering them by package at all.
BTW, The first home game for StL City SC is Saturday night, March 4th, 7:30 pm, during Arch Madness at their brand new stadium just down the street at Market Street and 21st. (Look towards the big Ferris Wheel) They will draw a full house--sold out (22,500)--with upper deck tickets having gone for $273 (against Charlotte FC). St Louis has been "soccer mad" since the early 1900's when Catholics came to St Louis in large numbers. Saint Louis U used to sell out every match and season tickets for StL City SC were reserved with deposits about 3 months after the team was announced.
StL City SC wins tonight in Austin 3 - 2 (Feb. 25) in first game ever.
Late goal makes expansion St. Louis City a winner over Austin FC | National Post (https://nationalpost.com/pmn/sports-pmn/late-goal-makes-expansion-st-louis-city-a-winner-over-austin-fc)
I seem to remember that the new stadium's naming rights were bought by Centene Bank and will be Centene Stadium.
EDIT: Apparently Centene Bank withdrew it's name from the CITYPARK Stadium
Former names: Centene Stadium (February–October 2022)
https://www.stlcitysc.com/stadium/ (https://www.stlcitysc.com/stadium/)
Stifel Theater (the former Kiel Auditorium) is at 14th & Market and sits against the Enterprise Center at Clark & 14th. CITYPARK Stadium sits at Market & 21st, 7 blocks west of Stifel Theater (Kiel Auditorium) and roughly 2 blocks west & north of St Louis Union Station.(1900 Market St - Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6295757,-90.2073308,3a,75y,180h,98.33t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sag1iSMLgCLvBU6JazwyO_A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192))
[size=78%]Enterprise Center to CITYPARK - Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Enterprise+Center/CITYPARK,+2100+Market+St,+St.+Louis,+MO+63103/@38.6287729,-90.2082134,17z/data=!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x0:0x16d092e190f89a21!2m2!1d-90.2026783!2d38.6268402!1m5!1m1!1s0x87d8b3ff8262f1cd:0xbeb570e20891a890!2m2!1d-90.2104856!2d38.6312285!3e0)[/size]
The St Louis Wheel is at 201 S. 20th Street. 201 S 20th St - Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6278089,-90.2098276,3a,75y,106.19h,119.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYzJE7JqbhX3HJKE404xB1A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
I'll see plenty of the MVC teams.
Oh, yeah, may run in to StLVuFan too.
Could we give Matt a sick day so that he can watch the other game too? That should demonstrate to him that we have moved on and bear no hard feelings. ;)
Murray State 77
Valpo 64
We have to have a ruling by justducky. Is this the official game thread?
Quote from: valpotx on February 25, 2023, 06:11:11 PM
Murray State 77
Valpo 64
Sounds about right but what about the other game? I'll say Bradley in OT.
Quote from: historyman on February 25, 2023, 06:14:55 PMWe have to have a ruling by justducky. Is this the official game thread?
We need a ruling from a higher authority. Somebody should report this mess to a moderator so we can get a striped shirt call. Besides that I want to know which game our moderators will be watching.
Quote from: justducky on February 25, 2023, 06:23:54 PM
Quote from: historyman on February 25, 2023, 06:14:55 PMWe have to have a ruling by justducky. Is this the official game thread?
We need a ruling from a higher authority. Somebody should report this mess to a moderator so we can get a striped shirt call. Besides that I want to know which game our moderators will be watching.
I think God will not be ruling. :-)
Quote from: justducky on February 25, 2023, 06:16:21 PM
Quote from: valpotx on February 25, 2023, 06:11:11 PM
Murray State 77
Valpo 64
Sounds about right but what about the other game? I'll say Bradley in OT.
God may be ruling on this one.
Go Bulldogs!
Murray State 77
Beacons 57
Why don't we use the same excuse for Murray State & Belmont that's been used for Valpo since joining the Valley? I thought we could not expect these new-to-the-conference teams to compete until they recruit MVC-level talent & have a few years to progress nicely. I mean, Murray State lost Ja Morant after the 2018-2019 season. Valpo, by comparison, lost Alec Peters after the 2016-2017 season. It's only fair to say Valpo needs more time to develop and be "gritty" once again.
Quote from: Dr. T on February 25, 2023, 09:30:28 PM
Why don't we use the same excuse for Murray State & Belmont that's been used for Valpo since joining the Valley? I thought we could not expect these new-to-the-conference teams to compete until they recruit MVC-level talent & have a few years to progress nicely. I mean, Murray State lost Ja Morant after the 2018-2019 season. Valpo, by comparison, lost Alec Peters after the 2016-2017 season. It's only fair to say Valpo needs more time to develop and be "gritty" once again.
Or just hire the "right or left" coach. A winning coach who puts fear in the players and actually yells at the refs. Bryce manages to give the refs a real piece of his mind and stays a praying Christian coach.
Just visited a very active Bradley message board and from it learned that Ticketmaster listed 169 remaining tixs at 8:23 AM. 11,000+ sellout possible. Showdowns like this are why we and Murray and Belmont joined the Valley.
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 25, 2023, 08:06:05 PMGo Bulldogs!
Does this mean you will be watching ESPN2? How many Bulldog fans will be driving over?
2 screens going today. I'll be watching both
I've got it!
Lottich and Prohm should start a fight before tipoff which gets them ejected. Then they can watch the ESPN2 game together in the janitorial mop room or wherever they can find the nearest BIG screen TV.
Has anyone noticed just how bad the MVC has become? 15th in NET, 8 MM conf's ranked higher, top 2 teams with 60+ NET's, 1 bid, likely 14 tournament seed, likely 1-and-done, 1 tournament share split 12 ways, no "white horse" effect with Belmont and Murray-just 2 more mouths to feed. A tanked program in a declining league.
What was the question again?
I am going with the underdog today
Lighthouses over the Racers by 3!
:crazy:
Game not over, but thus far. Racers look as if it would rather be anywhere but on the court.
Quote from: justducky on February 26, 2023, 02:16:10 PM
I've got it!
Lottich and Prohm should start a fight before tipoff which gets them ejected. Then they can watch the ESPN2 game together in the janitorial mop room or wherever they can find the nearest BIG screen TV.
Calloway County is not a dry county like a lot of Kentucky but there might be 4 or 5 bars in Murray. I thought Tap 216 had the most TVs. It's next to Burrito Shack on 15th Street near 12th Street (a main street). My favorite restaurant name was Bad Bob's BBQ in Murray.
Quote from: VALPO LI on February 26, 2023, 03:03:06 PM
I am going with the underdog today
Lighthouses over the Racers by 3!
:crazy:
I'll say Racers by 5. Valpo just doesn't really know how to light it up except for Maximus. Pretty bad for a team known as the Beacons.
Too many fundemental mistakes by Valpo at the end of games.
What fundamental mistake will Valpo make to lose this game?
Quote from: historyman on February 26, 2023, 04:37:03 PM
What fundamental mistake will Valpo make to lose this game?
Yep.
The most consistent MVC team in close games this year! Not a homer here, it was all ball on Krikke. Does the season end Thursday or Friday for the Brown and Gold?
I didn't watch it. I couldn't get to LiveStats. How did we manage to lose this one?
From the box score, it seems like the fouls were a teenie bit skewed to Murray 🙄. Otherwise we were as good or better across the board.
Tough to win on road shooting 26% from 3point land and only 6 FTs to their 20
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Valpo's last (and sole) OT win this season was back on November 27 when they beat James Madison. Since then, they've lost 4 OT games. Can these losses honestly be chalked up to the refs, bad calls, etc.? Or, is it a sign of a more systemic problem within this organization that signals (yet another) red flag that this program is in dire straits?
Quote from: AB on February 26, 2023, 05:18:53 PMThe most consistent MVC team in close games this year! Not a homer here, it was all ball on Krikke. Does the season end Thursday or Friday for the Brown and Gold?
Watch a basketball at any level and you'll hear constantly "stop ball!". Letting that guy go the length of the court until he was 5 feet from the basket is what killed Valpo not necessarily the foul. Krikke did bring his arms down which is usually going to get a call.
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 26, 2023, 07:23:02 PM
I didn't watch it. I couldn't get to LiveStats. How did we manage to lose this one?
The usual suspects. Got off to a good start, built a lead, gave it up toward the end of the first half through a scoring drought. Finished down a few at half. 2nd half got down, hung in there got a lead toward the end, couldn't extend it. Had the usual turnover on an inbounds play that lead to a score. They tied it with about a dozen seconds left. We got an open look from three at the end but unfortunately it was Darius who had hit an extremely rare 3 earlier, but this time returned to form and hit nothing but floor. Got down immediately by 5 in ot, hung around, Krikke had a chance to cut lead to 1 but missed second free throw. Made up for it by later getting a follow up to tie the score with about 5 seconds left. Didn't guard on the inbounds giving them clean path up court getting a nice foul call with .5 seconds left. They hit first free throw, missed second, game ended.
Decided I hadn't suffered enough trying to pass a stone this week so actually watched the game. Feeling was similar. Pain and no success. Suppose I will watch our final game on Thursday. I clearly need to suffer some more. Imagine Krikke might feel the same about his Valpo career. A point guard that could shoot a bit, another big that could give him a blow once in a while without grinding the offense to a halt. A 2 or a 3 that was consistently above average from 3 or a coach who could recruit these kind of players or coach up the ones they have. I wish he could have played on one of those Valpo teams in his last couple of years.
After reading a poorly-thought-out post on pg 1 about how "awful" the Valley is, here's some perspective:
The MVC has 5 top-120 NET teams.
This is the same as #9 and #10 NET.
This is more than #11-#14 NET, and actually 2-3 more than a couple of those leagues.
The whole reason the MVC is #15 is because of the bottom-4:
Illinois St (271)
Us (278)
UIC (285)
Evansville (349)
When comparing the top half of every league, the MVC's top half is actually #11. The whole reason the MVC as a whole is #15 is strictly because of us and 3 others. That takes absolutely nothing away from how good Bradley, Drake, and others have been.
The MVC had an incredible showdown of an 11k sellout on national television today. That showing, and the quality of the top half of the league relative to the top half of other mid-major leagues, speaks for itself.
Hopefully, more nuance will be a staple of future posts as opposed to lazy takes. :thumbsup:
wh often times has good posts but he has completely checked out from Valpo and the basketball team. Cheers to you providing the necessary balance.
May know - the Valley has dropped some in the past 10 years. Losing Creighton, Wichita St. and Loyola has not helped. also, when ranking a conference, to be objective you have to include the bottom teams, which all suck, except for Evansville which is pathetic.
Never the less, in the next 7 days we will know about how Valpo stands and how committed they are in Division 1 basketball.
We were the better team this game. The clincher for Murray St. was an "all-ball" foul called on Ben in the closing seconds, when the game was tied at 76. Even Luke Gore couldn't understand the blatant foul discrepancy in this game. It's not like Murray was doing anything specific to earn these fouls, or we were doing more to commit them. Felt like Murray St. was this year's Evansville road game...we got screwed when it mattered most.
We went an entire season and never learned how to close out a game. Pretty sad. That is a coaching problem. Maybe one of these years we will recruit some backcourt personnel who can shoot. It is pathetic how poorly DeV and crew are unable to create offense and put the ball in the hole, let alone shoot the 3. One thing is certain, they fail to do it consistently. Good teams have good point guards that can create and shoot...we do not. I know that they do not turn it over alot but we get nothing while they play catch and weave the ball near center court. When you attach offensively you sometimes will have turnovers and I'll take that approach every time.
Quote from: valporun on February 27, 2023, 07:56:40 AMWe were the better team this game. The clincher for Murray St. was an "all-ball" foul called on Ben in the closing seconds, when the game was tied at 76. Even Luke Gore couldn't understand the blatant foul discrepancy in this game. It's not like Murray was doing anything specific to earn these fouls, or we were doing more to commit them. Felt like Murray St. was this year's Evansville road game...we got screwed when it mattered most.
The clincher for Murray St. was Valpo letting the guy go the length of the court with him barely being moved off his dribble. It was horrific defense. Any screwing should be viewed internally.