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#1
welcome Valpo fans, from the Sycamores

hey, it only took a little over 4 years from the point I started the original Valpo to the MVC thread to get you all in the conference.

Disappointed we only added one team, was hoping for Murray State too, but hopefully the MVC presidents find a 12th member to join for 18-19 and can bring Murray State in as well.
#2
On The Horizon / Re: PantherU take on HL Expansion
April 25, 2013, 11:59:49 AM
I have no dog in this race, and I know noone wants the dakota schools due to travel, but what about this scenario.

Add Oakland, usd, sdsu, and ndsu. Then split into an east west league (6 per division). West would be Milwaukee, UWGB, usd, sdsu, ndsu, and UIC. East would be Valpo, Wright State, Cleveland State, Oakland, Detroit, and YSU.

12 team league. That is a pretty good league that would do well in the RPI and be right with the MVC, if not ahead.

WIU goes to the OVC, then IUPUI, IPFW, Denver, and UNO to the WAC. Problem solved, no more summit league.

also, I don't think the Horizon is realistically going to add an OVC school.
#3
Quote from: agibson on April 14, 2013, 08:49:35 PM
Quote from: isu87 on April 14, 2013, 12:13:38 PMMVC is only taking one school (it's official) for 2013
Source?



"I think this is it for '13-'14. I think there's some interest in discussion expansion of the conference in the future, but at best, it's discussion at this point. No decisions have been made on that," Prettyman said.
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http://tribstar.com/breakingnews/x2094911505/Second-City-in-the-Valley-Loyola-joins-the-MVC


now this isn't saying it's only going to be one, but it's not likely to be more than one. I am a grad of Indy State BTW. Still think Valpo will be in line in the future for the MVC.
#4
also, the MVC is only taking one school (it's official) for 2013, but that does not mean Valpo is out for 2014. Noone knows what else may happen. My guess is the MVC will wait to see what happens with SLU and Dayton and the new Big East, then assuming they go there, add a couple more schools in 2014? So no need to go full panic mode yet, there is still hope IMO
#5
Quote from: a3uge on April 14, 2013, 11:22:55 AMDo you know who has great access to large cities and the Chicago market? The Horizon League. If 'potential' sits around and doesn't do anything for 10-20 years, is it really potential anymore? I fall to see the logical argument that the MVC will grow a couple of bottom feeders into successful teams. If it's easy, why hasn't the Horizon able to do that? Does the MVC think the Horizon is incompetent for the mismanagement of the Chicago schools... and that they will turn the potential into results? The MVC semi final games aren't even on TV. The championship game is on CBS, but obviously only two already strong programs benefit from that. The MVC has great programs from smaller cities and smaller schools. They've taken that model and transformed the MVC into the best mid major conference in the country. Now they want to ditch that model and play this 'potential' routine. I don't see it. I just don't see the exposure of the MVC taking Loyola or UIC to the next level. ... I still won't believe any report until it's done. Too many anonymous sources floating around saying false information. If Belmont wanted into the MVC, I would be confused as to why the MVC takes UIC or Loyola in front of them. Same goes for ORU.

that is actually incorrect, all the MVC tourney games are on TV. Even the Thursday night games are on TV, I know because I watched them in the dakotas. Fox Sports aired them. You're correct in that the final is on CBS, but they only show the first 37 minutes of the game, then cut away to a Big 10 game  >:(
#6
Valpo fans, this is not over yet, not by a long shot. I still believe Valpo, UI-C and Loyola will all be asked to join the MVC. Stay tuned. It just makes sense.
#7
another scenario that very well may play out, what if all 3 Horizon league schools are asked to join the MVC? Valpo, UI-C, and Loyola. Do all 3 agree to this? It may very well happen. The Horizon League didn't do anything when Butler left. They sit at 9 schools and now are on the verge of being raided. I don't know that the MVC wants to sit at 9 and risk losing more before adding.

So who knows? Will the MVC add 1, or 3?
#8
here are the updated MVC RPI's from Warrennolan.com (minus Creighton)

Wichita State  17
Indiana State  70
UNI  75
Evansville  89
Illinois State  106
Drake  138
Bradley  177
Southern Illinois  188
Missouri State  197
#9
How many NCAA units does the Horizon have accumulated? (over the past 6 years?)
#10
looks like the MVC is visiting Valpo this week, your thoughts on moving over to the MVC?? We'd have all of western Indiana covered with Valpo being added.

if you go to kansascity dot com there is a story about site visits