I noticed a couple days ago that a big piece of construction equipment that is used for demolition was parked in front of the old 3D building to the east of the Moeller Funeral Home. Does anyone know if there is a plan to tear down that building or are they just parking the equipment there for the time being?
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4679211,-87.0448798,3a,75y,90t/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4679211,-87.0448798,3a,75y,90t/data=)!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJJV4EqVhFup1Qs06WLZ3bQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
Quote from: historyman on August 20, 2015, 03:43:08 PM
I noticed a couple days ago that a big piece of construction equipment that is used for demolition was parked in front of the old 3D building to the east of the Moeller Funeral Home. Does anyone know if there is a plan to tear down that building or are they just parking the equipment there for the time being?
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4679211,-87.0448798,3a,75y,90t/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4679211,-87.0448798,3a,75y,90t/data=)!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJJV4EqVhFup1Qs06WLZ3bQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
Hopefully to bulldoze Trails and their rude insufferable staff.
Quote from: historyman on August 20, 2015, 03:43:08 PM
I noticed a couple days ago that a big piece of construction equipment that is used for demolition was parked in front of the old 3D building to the east of the Moeller Funeral Home. Does anyone know if there is a plan to tear down that building or are they just parking the equipment there for the time being?
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4679211,-87.0448798,3a,75y,90t/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4679211,-87.0448798,3a,75y,90t/data=)!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJJV4EqVhFup1Qs06WLZ3bQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
(from April 2013)
http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/porter/valparaiso/major-changes-planned-at-vu-in-coming-years/article_d6b53ee2-1015-5d92-93a0-7c299947acda.html?mobile_touch=true (http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/porter/valparaiso/major-changes-planned-at-vu-in-coming-years/article_d6b53ee2-1015-5d92-93a0-7c299947acda.html?mobile_touch=true)
This article from 2013 indicates that plans are to demolish the building and use the area for parking as part of making the university a "walking campus."
Quote from: wh on August 20, 2015, 06:21:13 PM
Quote from: historyman on August 20, 2015, 03:43:08 PM
I noticed a couple days ago that a big piece of construction equipment that is used for demolition was parked in front of the old 3D building to the east of the Moeller Funeral Home. Does anyone know if there is a plan to tear down that building or are they just parking the equipment there for the time being?
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4679211,-87.0448798,3a,75y,90t/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4679211,-87.0448798,3a,75y,90t/data=)!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJJV4EqVhFup1Qs06WLZ3bQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
(from April 2013)
http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/porter/valparaiso/major-changes-planned-at-vu-in-coming-years/article_d6b53ee2-1015-5d92-93a0-7c299947acda.html?mobile_touch=true (http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/porter/valparaiso/major-changes-planned-at-vu-in-coming-years/article_d6b53ee2-1015-5d92-93a0-7c299947acda.html?mobile_touch=true)
This article from 2013 indicates that plans are to demolish the building and use the area for parking as part of making the university a "walking campus."
It's so far from campus, I'm not sure how any parking would be useful, let alone making it a "walkable" part of campus.
While we are reminising, is Buzz's Valpo Liquors still around? They loved selling those kegs of Old Milwaukee!
Quote from: usc4valpo on August 20, 2015, 09:34:45 PM
While we are reminising, is Buzz's Valpo Liquors still around? They loved selling those kegs of Old Milwaukee!
They absolutely are - their best feature is the bargain shopping cart.
I'm sure VU was forced to take the 3D parcel as part of the hospital land acquisition deal. Why in the world would Porter Memorial want to retain such an awful piece of property? They probably told VU that if the university wanted the hospital land, they would have to take the 3D piece as well, or no deal. VU had little-to-no bargaining power and had to accept this eyesore, which is a liability waiting to happen. VU then had to spin the acquisition as part of long-range parking option for the campus, but everyone knows that is ridiculous.
I would simply turn this parcel into a landscaped park with a couple walking paths. No one is going to take this land and turn it into a nice commercial property. Evidence in support of this statement is supplied by the 30+ years this property has remained vacant.
Paul
Quote from: wh on August 20, 2015, 06:21:13 PMThis article from 2013 indicates that plans are to demolish the building and use the area for parking as part of making the university a "walking campus."
It's been used as parking, probably especially for the Uptown East apartments for a year or so. Those are more or less immediately across the street, and apparently pretty short of parking. So, maybe not a bad arrangement from them. Except the street is Lincolnway, and while there is a stoplight and crosswalk on the corner with Roosevelt, it's not a great place to cross. I wonder if they'd be well served by improving pedestrian access / warnings to drivers.
They did add official VU signage to the lot, somewhere between Ironwood and Leo's Bike Shop, off Roosevelt, maybe over the summer.
Long term, it might be suitable as parking for students whose life is mostly on campus, who live on campus, but happen to have a car. It's only a few minutes walk from the dorms - not ideal for a commuter, but maybe not so bad two evenings a week and on the weekend.
The complete vision isn't clear to me, but there have been a number of parking and traffic changes made effective in the last week or so. The "old" (not _so_ old) parking ramp by Brandt is now meant to be student only. The "ocean" behind the union is now faculty/staff only. Campus Drive in front of Scheele, Alumni, and Lankenau is now one-way east bound. They seem to have _tried_ to remove the parking spaces, both parallel and slanted, parking spots to the west of Scheele (basically until the intersection with Campus Drive). Unfortunately, while they removed the white paint from the slant parking, it left obvious marks and they've continued to use them. They coned it off yesterday. If they can clean up the parking there it will, hopefully, improve traffic flow there which was sometimes a problem. They've removed the 15 minute parking spaces as well, I don't know if they'll try to clamp down on "I'm parking here with my flashers on" (which was frequent), or if they're just hoping that widening the street will better accommodate it.
There are plenty of campuses where the expectation, even for students, faculty, and staff who commute, is something like "drive to campus once a day, park way out on the parameter, walk maybe even five or ten minutes to your office, and spend the rest of the day on campus". We're not there yet. And, that vision would take some adjustments from the campus community, maybe especially for midwesterners. But, it's probably not a bad vision. I certainly don't miss the through traffic on Chapel Drive.
Thinking of the 3D parcel and adjacent area. I have no opinion about the 3D building itself, I'm sort of used to it being vacant, as it has been for my almost 20 years on/around campus. But, I've not noticed or heard about that becoming a problem. It's a little bit of an eyesore, but I've not seen broken windows, graffiti, etc. or heard of any problems. And, I bike past there twice a day.
I think it _might_ be nice to improve the corner, more immediately apparent to passerby, of Sturdy and Lincolnway. The NE corner that is. We've talked some on the board on the intersection. The bank's OK. I don't mind the used car dealership so much, though of course it reflects, for better or worse, the continued "pawn shop, laundromat" feel of many of the businesses in the campus area. Of course it'd be nice if the SW corner could get a tenant or be sold. But, the NE corner has just a bit of broken pavement, or unimproved scrubby area. I'm not sure who owns it, whether it's part of the 3D parcel or not. It'd be nice to turn it into attractive green space, or make it part of the Ironwood property and let them put it to good use, or something.
For me that one small corner parcel (too small for any building larger than a kiosk, probably) is somehow more of an eyesore than the whole 3D building and parking lot.
What does 3D stand for?
Danners Discount Department Store
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danners (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danners)
http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/46263438/ (http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/46263438/)
Here is an ad that ran in the Vidette Messenger in 1974, 41 years ago tomorrow (8/22/1974). 3D was a Walmart type store that was headquartered in Indianapolis.
Quote from: agibson on August 21, 2015, 09:04:56 AM
It's been used as parking, probably especially for the Uptown East apartments for a year or so. Those are more or less immediately across the street, and apparently pretty short of parking. So, maybe not a bad arrangement from them. Except the street is Lincolnway, and while there is a stoplight and crosswalk on the corner with Roosevelt, it's not a great place to cross. I wonder if they'd be well served by improving pedestrian access / warnings to drivers.
Dead on. Parking at Uptown East is abysmal, and even if you're able to reserve a space it's going to cost you $400+ per year. There are a few open spots, but they technically belong to the businesses there, and if you're parked in those after about 8:30pm they'll tow your car so fast it'll make your head spin. Lots of people started parking across Lincolnway once they realized it was an option.
Quote from: agibson on August 21, 2015, 09:04:56 AM
The complete vision isn't clear to me, but there have been a number of parking and traffic changes made effective in the last week or so. The "old" (not _so_ old) parking ramp by Brandt is now meant to be student only. The "ocean" behind the union is now faculty/staff only. Campus Drive in front of Scheele, Alumni, and Lankenau is now one-way east bound. They seem to have _tried_ to remove the parking spaces, both parallel and slanted, parking spots to the west of Scheele (basically until the intersection with Campus Drive). Unfortunately, while they removed the white paint from the slant parking, it left obvious marks and they've continued to use them. They coned it off yesterday. If they can clean up the parking there it will, hopefully, improve traffic flow there which was sometimes a problem.
I think the plan was always to eliminate Campus Drive in front of Scheele, Alumni, and Lank. In my opinion that plan makes a lot of sense given the new road behind the dorms. I would have thought that the parking ramp for the Union would need to be constructed before eliminating parking nearby, but I guess that's not the case. Either way, I definitely support the mentality of parking on the outskirts of campus and walking around all day instead of driving. Notre Dame's campus is a great example of how this could work.
So this isn't the old Miller's Mart site? (1805 Lincolnway)
Quote from: vu72 on August 24, 2015, 09:45:55 AM
So this isn't the old Miller's Mart site? (1805 Lincolnway)
Miller's Mart (and Market) were located several blocks east of 3-D (in the immediate vicinity of the eastgate roundabout).
Quote from: wh on August 24, 2015, 04:00:22 PM
Quote from: vu72 on August 24, 2015, 09:45:55 AM
So this isn't the old Miller's Mart site? (1805 Lincolnway)
Miller's Mart (and Market) were located several blocks east of 3-D (in the immediate vicinity of the eastgate roundabout).
Thanks.
Quote from: agibson on August 21, 2015, 09:04:56 AMThey did add official VU signage to the lot,
This might be the most depressing news of all. How to advance VU's brand? Hey, add VU signage to the woeful parking lot in front of a vacant eyesore of a building on the worst commercial corner in Porter County!
Maybe this is the works since there is equipment on site right now, but if the plan is to tear down this horrible building and keep the parking lot for Uptown East students, then for Pete's sake completely redo the parking lot -- resurface it, plant some trees to give the area some semblance of visual interest, put in a black wrought iron fence around the property, and install some tasteful benches in front of the lot on the Lincolnway side. Please.
Paul
Quote from: 78crusader on August 24, 2015, 05:24:24 PMThis might be the most depressing news of all. How to advance VU's brand? Hey, add VU signage to the woeful parking lot in front of a vacant eyesore of a building on the worst commercial corner in Porter County!
Yeah, maybe not great. A little better, maybe, is a nicely graphiced sign that Ironwood has up in front of a few of their parking spots, "Ironwood Brewery Parking Courtesy of Valparaiso University" or similar - not bad for a dry campus.
On closer look, it's not clear what the construction vehicle at 3D's doing, or how long it's been there. There is something around the 3D building that _might_ be a construction fence. But it might have been there a while.
The lot on the SW corner is bigger than I remembered - probably _is_ big enough for a building.
Miller's Mart/Market was there way after 3D, right? I think there was some kind of grocery store still there in... 96 at least?
Miller's Mart [Miller's Market Grocery and Miller's Mart Furniture] is now (west to east) where the Dynasty Buffet, Charter Fitness, [empty realty office], Dollar General, Indiana Furniture & Mattress AND BUZZ's Liquors! That is on the Northwest corner of the "Roundabout".
Newly paved parking lot and with a $400,000 facelift... the Miller family did a nice job with the rehab.
The Northeast Corner, formerly the Dairy Queen then "Red Hots", was just sold to First Source Bank and they are now "under roof" with an opening about 2 months away. This is the same bank that is currently across the street at the point of the triangle where LaPorte Ave and Lincolnway almost meet. But that spot is very difficult to use and only has a couple of parking spots. I don't know what their plans are for the soon-to-be-empty bank.
I cannot believe the 3D building is still around. Holy cow.
So what does Buzz' Valpo Liquors look like these days? I bought beverages from there after Valpo post game wins over Butler, UIC and Bradley. We should have a bought a keg of Old Milwaukee after the infamous Rob Harden Eastern Kentucky game.
Quote from: agibson on August 24, 2015, 11:46:32 PMOn closer look, it's not clear what the construction vehicle at 3D's doing, or how long it's been there. There is something around the 3D building that _might_ be a construction fence. But it might have been there a while.
There's definitely something going on there. I didn't get a good luck, but Friday or so the fence was moved further away from the building, there were stacks of building materials, etc. Not sure what's up.
And, the gravel lot on the NE corner of Roosevelt and Lincolnway, south of Ironwood, is bigger than I thought. You could probably fit a building there.
Quote from: okinawatyphoon on August 20, 2015, 09:07:20 PM
It's so far from campus, I'm not sure how any parking would be useful, let alone making it a "walkable" part of campus.
As I as driving past the 3-D parking lot earlier today, I noticed numerous parked cars at the south end (Lincolnway entrance area). On my return trip I stopped and counted roughly 70 cars. This has to be a recent development. That lot sat completely empty for many years after the close of 3-D, until the old Porter Hospital began using it for overflow employee parking. Once Porter moved, it sat mostly empty again - until now.
Interesting...
I went to Ironwood about two months ago and the parking lot was absolutely filled too, in the middle of summer. They have to be using it for something. As mentioned, they have University signs at the entrances. Something I noticed last week is that Ironwood now has a few signs for their parking on the spots closest to them...
Quote from: agibson on August 30, 2015, 04:38:39 PMThere's definitely something going on there. I didn't get a good luck,
Let's hope the University has better luck tearing down the old building in the near future. :-)
Quote from: bbtds on August 30, 2015, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: agibson on August 30, 2015, 04:38:39 PMThere's definitely something going on there. I didn't get a good luck,
Let's hope the University has better luck tearing down the old building in the near future. :-)
Somehow I make more of those mistakes as I age. I'm literate, really I am. Must say something about the way my brain works...
Quote from: elephtheria47 on August 30, 2015, 07:26:23 PM
I went to Ironwood about two months ago and the parking lot was absolutely filled too, in the middle of summer. They have to be using it for something. As mentioned, they have University signs at the entrances. Something I noticed last week is that Ironwood now has a few signs for their parking on the spots closest to them...
This was discussed a bit back at
http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=2228.msg60763#msg60763 (http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=2228.msg60763#msg60763)
And, yeah, I was shocked in the last year or so when I saw all the cars also. I thought, "Is there a car dealership using it temporarily, or some such?"
Uptown East is, I'm pretty sure, a big part of the explanation.
But, the fact that it was still true over the summer is a little puzzling.
Maybe it's Uptown East and the adjacent apartments, rather generically, and not just students? Or maybe there are some chunk of people on twelve months leases, or those residents are otherwise more likely to be around Valpo 12 months.
For the first time, summer research students were housed in Uptown East this summer (more often recently it had been Guild and Memorial), and maybe that's much of the explanation. Or it may have been the default summer dorm for everybody, not just summer research students.
Demolition is underway.
Pics of the 3D building from this afternoon 8/31/15.
EDIT--now it's telling me the attachment is too large. I will have to figure out another way to post them.
Quote from: historyman on August 31, 2015, 04:03:34 PM
Pics of the 3D building from this afternoon 8/31/15.
EDIT--now it's telling me the attachment is too large. I will have to figure out another way to post them.
imgur.com
That area is going to look so nice without that hideous building. If they need help, I would be more than happy to help them tear it down!
still working on it.
Quote from: elephtheria47 on August 31, 2015, 07:17:50 PM
That area is going to look so nice without that hideous building. If they need help, I would be more than happy to help them tear it down!
It may depend on what they replace it with, if anything!
I hear that there were stories circulating a few weeks ago about bids being solicited, and having come back for the demolition.
I've not heard anything concrete about the future use of the space, short term or long term. (Some dreams of a Trader Joe's, for example, but that sounds like pie in the sky.)
Demolition definitely underway, some of the facade down this morning. They have a big pile of new-looking wood, or maybe pallets. Not entirely sure what that's for (is it somehow helpful in removing debris?).
Finally.
https://tschmitt.smugmug.com/3D-building-8-31-15/i-SkkdxRv/A
https://tschmitt.smugmug.com/3D-building-8-31-15/i-KnFhjxV/A
https://tschmitt.smugmug.com/3D-building-8-31-15/i-TMZvC2S/A
(https://tschmitt.smugmug.com/3D-building-8-31-15/i-SkkdxRv/0/X2/IMG_20150831_140225_131-X2.jpg)
(https://tschmitt.smugmug.com/3D-building-8-31-15/i-KnFhjxV/0/X2/IMG_20150831_140304_633-X2.jpg)
(https://tschmitt.smugmug.com/3D-building-8-31-15/i-TMZvC2S/0/X2/IMG_20150831_140419_313-X2.jpg)
The 3-D building demolition project looks to be completed. I never realized until now just how large that property is - it's HUGE! It stretches an entire city block from N-S and at least half a block from E-W. The back half where the building was is considerably wider than the front parking area along Lincolnway. I have no idea what the long term plans are for that corner, but what a nice, usable piece of prime real estate it has become!
Just rumors at this point but I'm hearing that they are looking into a high-end grocer to fill that spot. Having a Trader Joes or Marianos or Whole Foods there would be so great and the university students would LOVE it.
Interesting you should mention that. Here's a related article from July:
Whole Foods breaks ground in Schererville, eyes Valpo
http://www.nwitimes.com/business/local/whole-foods-breaks-ground-in-schererville-eyes-valpo/article_ecbd3cc2-d7b6-5620-ab8a-76718d56827c.html?mobile_touch=true (http://www.nwitimes.com/business/local/whole-foods-breaks-ground-in-schererville-eyes-valpo/article_ecbd3cc2-d7b6-5620-ab8a-76718d56827c.html?mobile_touch=true)
Quote from: wh on September 21, 2015, 09:18:10 AM
Interesting you should mention that. Here's a related article from July:
Whole Foods breaks ground in Schererville, eyes Valpo
http://www.nwitimes.com/business/local/whole-foods-breaks-ground-in-schererville-eyes-valpo/article_ecbd3cc2-d7b6-5620-ab8a-76718d56827c.html?mobile_touch=true (http://www.nwitimes.com/business/local/whole-foods-breaks-ground-in-schererville-eyes-valpo/article_ecbd3cc2-d7b6-5620-ab8a-76718d56827c.html?mobile_touch=true)
Perhaps the fact that Whole Foods General Counsel is a Valpo Law grad may be helpful!
Quote from: wh on September 21, 2015, 09:18:10 AM
Interesting you should mention that. Here's a related article from July:
Whole Foods breaks ground in Schererville, eyes Valpo
http://www.nwitimes.com/business/local/whole-foods-breaks-ground-in-schererville-eyes-valpo/article_ecbd3cc2-d7b6-5620-ab8a-76718d56827c.html?mobile_touch=true (http://www.nwitimes.com/business/local/whole-foods-breaks-ground-in-schererville-eyes-valpo/article_ecbd3cc2-d7b6-5620-ab8a-76718d56827c.html?mobile_touch=true)
July 2014. Not so sure Whole Foods is looking to expand right now. Aldi is more likely.
Isn't there already an Aldi in Valpo? Did that go away?
Yes, Aldi's is in a prime location adjacent to Best Buy. In fact, they are currently in the process of completing a major renovation.
Love Aldi, their branded items seem to be of higher quality than other store branded products. Believe it or not, but my mom (good German that she is) bought a Medion laptop from Aldi back in 2007 and it is still running without any issues other than the battery is kaput. I was skeptical at first and was really surprised by the specs and build quality for the very low price.
The Aldi is Valpo is one of the best in the area and my wife and I shop at it almost exclusively. If there's something Aldi doesn't have we either don't need it or will run over to Strack's and get it.
Putting a Whole Foods across the street from the University isn't a bad idea, and may be a draw to incoming students from affluent families, but I'm not sure how much a college student would be able to afford it.
all I can say - just say no to Walmart!
There's already the Walmart on Rt 30 that is walking distance from campus. At least I considered it walking distance when I was in school. But I would also walk all the way to Target.
Quote from: Kyle321n on September 24, 2015, 08:32:41 AM
There's already the Walmart on Rt 30 that is walking distance from campus. At least I considered it walking distance when I was in school. But I would also walk all the way to Target.
These days I think the sidewalks to Target are in pretty good shape. Students seem to do very badly at crossing the round-about (and/or drivers do very badly with pedestrians at the roundabout).
I don't guess there's much by way of sidewalks on the way to Walmart. I walked there a few times myself, if memory serves, as a freshman. I think I've been back maybe only once since returning to Valpo (I guess it might still be one of the better 24 hour options?).
the Free (to students) V-Line bus service from the union to both WalMart, Target (and other shopping destinations) are usually quite busy!
Quote from: FWalum on September 23, 2015, 07:36:05 AM
Love Aldi, their branded items seem to be of higher quality than other store branded products. Believe it or not, but my mom (good German that she is) bought a Medion laptop from Aldi back in 2007 and it is still running without any issues other than the battery is kaput. I was skeptical at first and was really surprised by the specs and build quality for the very low price.
Aldi, a prominent German company, better watch out. Another German company that gebauen Das Auto mit diesel motor was caught betrügt EPA tests.
A couple of quick updates, for the out-of-towners, on this part of the neighborhood. Stilly only rumors circulating for the 3D property itself - we'll see what develops.
The property on the SW corner of Roosevelt and and Lincolnway (across from the used car dealer in one direction, and the Horizon Bank in the other) got an attractive renovation and is now a realty office. It had sat vacant, for sale, for a good while and was the subject of some discussion on this board.
More recently, the university's been tearing down several adjacent properties. Just south of that new realty office, and southwest, and I think also due west. Not sure what the plans are for the property. This is just to the west of the Uptown East apartments/student housing and just to the east of the old hospital parking garage and surface parking lot. It feels like it might be just that realty office left on the block, by the time they're done with all the demolition.
Construction on the new science building seems to be proceeding apace, with the girders now a fairly impressive vertical piece of the campus landscape.
They've also torn down, on campus the apartments between the VUPD and the old Theta Chi house and that should be where Sigma Chi builds their new chapter facility.
Am I correct in thinking that the new Phi Psi house will be where the VUPD bldg is now?
That's what I believe as well. I believe VUPD is moving to a building on the east side of campus near the parking garage but I'm not sure. Sig ep is also looking into buying property off of union street where the grass field currently is so we will finally have a pretty solid greek row going with Phi sig on their corner and Sig Tau and Theta Chi retaining control of their old houses.
3D or Danners Discount doesn't sound at all familiar to me. But that doesn't mean it isn't the building to which I'm referring. It may be my older-than-dirt memory. Did anyone own that building before 3-D? And even though someone posted a google map link to where the building was, the link doesn't work.
The map below shows the open area directly behind Trail-In Liquors where part of that 3D??? was. It spanned farther west too. So if that's where 3D was and there was never a business located there before or after 3D, then I have to concede on the name. That name just doesn't ring a bell to me.
(select "aerial" view and zoom in) https://www.bing.com/maps?q=google+map+valparaiso&form=EDGNB2&mkt=en-us&httpsmsn=1&msnews=1&plvar=0&refig=6627ae2865d54404c6ef8d3364aaa8cc&sp=-1&ghc=1&pq=google+map+valparaiso&sc=8-21&qs=n&sk=&cvid=6627ae2865d54404c6ef8d3364aaa8cc
Quote from: Just Sayin on October 26, 2019, 10:49:45 AMAnd even though someone posted a google map link to where the building was, the link doesn't work.
This one works Old 3D Building (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4678559,-87.0448739,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJJV4EqVhFup1Qs06WLZ3bQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
This new link actually shows that the building has been torn down. Building torn down (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4677914,-87.0448796,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s5lJUw-rlGKmb9SO3Tzer7Q!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D5lJUw-rlGKmb9SO3Tzer7Q%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D50.190132%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656)