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Valparaiso University => General VU Discussion => Topic started by: bbtds on June 05, 2016, 04:13:47 PM

Title: BBC says dressing up as a crusader is offensive to muslims
Post by: bbtds on June 05, 2016, 04:13:47 PM
Another group weighs in on the use of the crusader as a symbol.


http://whoradio.iheart.com/onair/simon-conway-42296/bbc-warns-english-soccer-fans-dressing-14781182/


Posing the question: "Is it wrong to dress as a crusader for an England match?" the answer appears to be a resounding "yes".

"Crusaders were the perpetrators of violent attacks across Europe and the Middle East on Muslims, Jews and pagans," the website intones, suggesting that fans may simply want to don the English flag instead, as "this has nothing to do with crusaders or what they stood for".
Title: Re: BBC says dressing up as a crusader is offensive to muslims
Post by: valpotx on June 05, 2016, 07:21:45 PM
It's one thing to dress up as a Crusader when you play against a Muslim nation, but it is completely different if it is an actual mascot.
Title: Re: BBC says dressing up as a crusader is offensive to muslims
Post by: historyman on June 10, 2016, 03:25:39 AM
Quote from: valpotx on June 05, 2016, 07:21:45 PM
It's one thing to dress up as a Crusader when you play against a Muslim nation, but it is completely different if it is an actual mascot.

I believe that the BBC is referring to muslims who live in England. The only muslim country that England has played recently is Turkey.
Title: Re: BBC says dressing up as a crusader is offensive to muslims
Post by: VULB#62 on June 10, 2016, 06:58:01 AM
And there is a fine line between wearing the flag of England (which is NOT the Union Jack -- the flag of the UK) which is a red cross on a white background and the typical crusader garment, which, coincidentally, is a red cross on a white background.