This probably is a stupid thing to do at this point, but regardless of how we do at TIU, I wanted to point out that Drake opened the season against South Dakota and got crushed at home 77 million to whatever. They had a breather this past weekend, but now they face Hurricane Irma, er, SDSU, rated #4 in FCS. SDSU crushed Duquesne without taking a deep breath.
What am I getting at? Once they assess their casualties and the injured return from local hospitals, Drake players, IMO, will have to be looking at Valpo as another breather. I think they will be surprised.
BTW again, as I monitor the PFL forum, I am seeing more and more of the Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid reactions (who are those guys?) from posters regarding Valpo. One guy even thinks we might finish ABOVE .500. And that guy wasn't me.
One last point. For some crazy reason, Valpo has traditionally given Drake all they could handle -- even in the Carlson era.
Please consider this just as a placeholder until we get past TIU, okay?
I will be there to see Valpo get to the 500 mark!
I don't think Drake will look past Valpo at all although I think Valpo can certainly beat Drake.
South Dakota beat Bowling Green this past weekend so SD crushing Drake is no more a surprise than SDST crushing Drake which they assuredly will.
The best barometer of Valpo will come this weekend when Dayton plays the Dukes.
By next Saturday we will know a lot more about the remainder of the season. No doubt about that.
Quote from: VULB#62 on September 11, 2017, 07:56:18 PM
One guy even thinks we might finish ABOVE .500. And that guy wasn't me.
LOL. Lets win 2 in a row so that we can actually broach the subject!
Quote from: VUOR63 on September 12, 2017, 09:57:20 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on September 11, 2017, 07:56:18 PM
One guy even thinks we might finish ABOVE .500. And that guy wasn't me.
LOL. Lets win 2 in a row so that we can actually broach the subject!
I tend to agree, but things are looking as though an above 0.500 record in the PFL is possible this season. Once every 14 years.
Quote from: usc4valpo on September 11, 2017, 09:06:01 PM
I will be there to see Valpo get to the 500 mark!
Dare I say it?
Quote from: covufan on September 12, 2017, 10:22:53 AMQuote from: usc4valpo on September 11, 2017, 09:06:01 PMI will be there to see Valpo get to the 500 mark!
Dare I say it?
Let's not forget that last year's team lost two, won two and then had Morehead State until they let them have the ball for a 17 play drive losing in the last few seconds which included a couple of 4th down conversions. So an above .500 record at that point was right in their hands.
Drake goes down to #4 South Dakota State 51-10. About the same as Duquesne's score. We can go nose to nose with these guys.
Notes:
QB: Mullen made debut
RB: None
FB: None
WR: Navarro started over hobbled Rene, will see if this stands
TE: Ryan Clarke DNP last game
OL: Taliaferro still out, Lundberg missed last game, Roberts made season debut
DL: De La Rosa did make debut did not start, Gerdys first career start, Studyvin out, Reed out, Germain made debut
LB: Skarecky moved to OLB and started, May just be a look will see next week if Petrie lost job, Regan made season debut
DB: Benavides moved from S to CB and started over Leandre, same situation as Petrie, Leach made debut, Brimmage made debut, Benavides first career start. Riley out. Nunes out. Booker first start
Scouting Drake
First of all they redshirt everyone. Only two players in rotation have not been redshirted and those are juco pick ups
Offense: More of a passing offense this year as opposed to traditional Drake run heavy team
QB: Returning Grant Kraemer from last season, Juco pick up, PFL player of the week once last season
RB: Split carries between Jacob Clay and Taylor Murph both RSFR.
WR: All over 6ft and around 200lbs, bigger group
OL: Both guards were HM all-conference last season.
Defense: Run a true 4-3
Defensive Line: Have 3 players who were HM all conference last year, 4th starter is a fifth year
LB: Young group only Mike back Maize had experience starting before this year
DBS: Experienced group all 4 are RSJR and above
Leaders
Passing: Grant Kraemer 649yds, 7TDs
Rushing: Taylor Murph 96yds. 0TDs
Receiving: Mitch McFarlane 185yds, 3tds
Tackling: FS Austin Dismond 13
TFL: LB Zac Rujawitz 2.5
Sacks: DE Mack Marrin 2.5
INTL: 3 with 1
Quote from: valpofb16 on September 17, 2017, 01:04:45 PMTE: Ryan Clarke DNP last game OL:
Clarke played at TE yesterday. Did you mean he didn't play vs. Duquense?
In addition, he's the LSer so my guess is that he's played in all three games.
Quote#5 Jalin Leandre JR. (2/3) #29 Julian Benavides FR. (1/3) #14 Cam Kelly FR. (0/2)
Which game did Benavides start? Seems to me that Leandre started all three on one side and Riley and Scargle have started on the other side. This is made more confusing by the numbers. Leandre used to wear #29 IIRC. The game notes are still wrong. Brimmage was wearing #7 yesterday as well.
Participation report didnt list him, i can modify
Quote from: valpofb16 on September 17, 2017, 01:45:47 PMParticipation report didnt list him, i can modify
I'll take a guess that the participation report lists players as they enter the game and that Clarke first appeared as a long snapper. Seemed to me that he and Petruf were at TE most of the second half.
Benavides starting was also from box score
Quote from: valpofb16 on September 17, 2017, 01:56:39 PMBenavides starting was also from box score
I think that's incorrect. Odd that a guy not on the depth chart would start out of nowhere particularly when I don't even recall seeing a 29 on the field. CBs seemed to be Leandre, Scargle, Kelly, Hebda, Brimmage. As I mentioned, I think the numbers 5 and 29 are causing confusion in some spots at least with whatever computer program is being used. I'm not sure Benavides has seen any action.
Getting back to what's going to happen Saturday vs. Drake. I think it's going to be a shootout. I'll be very surprised if either defense is able to stop the opponent offense.
Looking forward to being able to compete in this game.
VALPO - 31
Drake - 27
Valpo 38, Drake 30
Quote from: JD24 on September 17, 2017, 02:11:08 PMI think that's incorrect. Odd that a guy not on the depth chart would start out of nowhere particularly when I don't even recall seeing a 29 on the field. CBs seemed to be Leandre, Scargle, Kelly, Hebda, Brimmage. As I mentioned, I think the numbers 5 and 29 are causing confusion in some spots at least with whatever computer program is being used. I'm not sure Benavides has seen any action.
Yes, there were a few tweaks to the initial participation report, which is quite often the case. I go back and make any needed changes on Sundays with help from Rob Tulcin and our coaching staff. LeAndre started, not Benavides. Clarke, Taliaferro & David Hebda were added; Leach, Rene and Benavides subtracted. Benavides didn't play this week, but he did see action in each of the first two games.
Quote from: Brandon on September 17, 2017, 04:27:05 PMQuote from: JD24 on September 17, 2017, 02:11:08 PMI think that's incorrect. Odd that a guy not on the depth chart would start out of nowhere particularly when I don't even recall seeing a 29 on the field. CBs seemed to be Leandre, Scargle, Kelly, Hebda, Brimmage. As I mentioned, I think the numbers 5 and 29 are causing confusion in some spots at least with whatever computer program is being used. I'm not sure Benavides has seen any action.
Yes, there were a few tweaks to the initial participation report, which is quite often the case. I go back and make any needed changes on Sundays with help from Rob Tulcin and our coaching staff. LeAndre started, not Scargle. Clarke, Taliaferro & David Hebda were added; Leach, Rene and Benavides subtracted. Benavides didn't play this week, but he did see action in each of the first two games.
Thanks Brandon. Todd mentioned that there were all sorts of technical issues just getting the stream on air and mentioned you were a big part (perhaps the only part) of getting it all together and it is appreciated.
QB #9 Jimmy Seewald SO. (3/3) #14 Chris Duncan RSFR. (0/3) #4 Joe Mullen RSSO. (0/1)
RB #10 Jarrett Morgan SR. (3/3) #44 Kyle Cartales SO. (0/3) #32 Cody Boxrucker FR. (0/2) #21 Elias Earley RSSO. (0/3)
FB #40 Brannen Martin RSFR. (0/2)
WR #1 Jean Rene JR. (2/2) #26 Donny Navarro FR. (1/3) #23 Bailey Gessinger SO. (0/3)
WR #30 Frank Catrine SR. (3/3) #2 Griffin Norberg JR. (0/3) #82 Deuce Larose FR. (0/2)
WR #3 Parker Fox RSSO. (3/3) #12 JD Koehler RSSO. (0/3)
TE #84 Mason Sutter JR. (3/3) #87 Martin Petruf SO. (0/3) #16 Ryan Clarke SR. (0/3)
RT #76 Alex Cotton RSSO. (2/3) #75 Shannon Taliaferro JR. (1/2)
RG #73 Tom Schofield JR. (3/3) #72 Solomon Kamara RSFR. (0/2)
C #65 Jack Jarnigan RSSO. (3/3) #70 Brady Sullivan RSSO. (0/2)
LG #67 Eric Rentschler JR. (3/3) #66 Sam Vas FR. (0/3)
LT #60 Andrew Lundberg RSSO. (2/2) #77 Terrence Roberts RSSO. (1/1) #71 Bryce Biggs RSFR. (0/2)
NT #93 James Reed SO. (2/2) #92 Drew Gedrys FR. (1/3) #56 Tristan De La Rosa (0/1) #97 Jeremiah Olojo FR. (0/2)
DT #99 Jakob Trumpower RSSO. (3/3) #91 Jordan Goebel RSFR. (0/3) #62 Nathan Orlandini FR. (0/2)
DE #34 Jay Slone RSSR. (2/3) #54 Jesse Studyvin JR. (1/2) #96 Cam Germain FR. (0/1)
OLB #18 Mike Wheeler JR. (3/3) #33 Gowan Baldwin JR. (0/3)
ILB #24 Drew Snouffer JR. (3/3) #9 Tyler Newkirk SO. (0/2) #39 Jack Buckey SO. (0/1) #43 John Regan SR. (0/1)
ILB #49 Nick Turner JR. (3/3) #47 Matthew Messler RSSO. (0/3) #6 Logan Pfizenmayer FR. (0/2)
OLB #36 Austin Petrie SO. (2/3) #37 Laddie Skarecky FR. (1/3) #38 Joey Poloskey FR. (0/3) #35 Gavin Twigg FR. (0/2)
CB #5 Jalin Leandre JR. (3/3) #14 Cam Kelly FR. (0/2) #41 Henry Hebda FR. (0/2)
FS #28 Josmar Diaz-Martinez JR. (3/3) #29 Julian Benavides FR. (0/2)
SS #4 JJ Nunes RSSR. (2/2) #20 Jamari Booker SO. (1/3) #22 Tramone Duncan FR. (0/2)
CB #17 Brandon Riley SR. (1/1) #25 Dilan Scargle FR. (2/3) #7 Brent Brimmage FR. (0/1)
K #1 Dimitrios Latsois SO. (0/3)
P #88 Alex Ng JR. (0/3)
Updated and corrected
My prediction: Valpo wins in a triple OT thriller. 64-62.
The game will be a better track meet than the Drake Relays.
With the exception of a drubbing of Southwestern (KS), an NAIA school which hasn't won a game yet and was picked 10th in their conference, Drake has not exhibited much of an offense so far, so a track meet probably will not happen.
BTW, Duquesne went into Welcome Stadium and beat Dayton and the result was similar to ours, except we were in a position to win it late. Not as much for Dayton. Marist beat GTown but needed a lot of luck to do it. Butler pulled out a win out over D-III Taylor in the last 7 seconds. Campbell lost to Presbyterian. Stetson lost to Dartmouth at home. Morehead was destroed by OVC celler dweller Austin Peay which broke their nation leading 29 game losing streak. To be honest, no one in the PFL scares me anymore. With some luck and a tough attitude going into every game, we have a chance against our whole PFL scheule.
Quote from: VULB#62 on September 17, 2017, 10:18:57 PMWith the exception of a drubbing of Southwestern (KS), an NAIA school which hasn't won a game yet and was picked 10th in their conference, Drake has not exhibited much of an offense so far, so a track meet probably will not happen.
Drake's offensive "problems" were playing two of the better FCS teams which have very good DLs. Drake's QB was under a lot of duress yet still was able to accomplish some things offensively. I watched their game Saturday. Versus PFL teams they should be able to consistently move the ball and I expect that to continue vs. Valpo which has only defensively stopped a one dimensional lower level NAIA school playing without their starting QB.
Any review of Dayton must be done so keeping in mind that they have played 3 games without their starting QB, Alex Jeske, who is a very good player. I believe he may be back this week for Dayton vs. Morehead St.
Morehead seems to be down. I don't know how to read Stetson as they were tied with Marist in the 4th Q. Campbell should lose handily to Presbyterian. Butler I already commented on. What an attrocious win for them. Valpo was better than them last year and lost in probably the worst loss of last season.
The final Duquesne score was also mitigated by their not having their best RB who for 100 yards against us. QBs (in this case Jeske) are always difference makers, but I think this result is a very good indicator of comparative strength. This could be the year we can give Dayton a go instead of experiencing something like a 45-10 loss. It might still be us giving up 45, but we'll score 40. Or it might even be us 45 and them 40.
As for Drake, I'll certainly acknowledge the superiority of their FCS opponents and I think the USD 77 point explosion was an aberration with the SDSU score more of an accurate barometer, but this does not translate to a track meet for our game. I believe it will be a hard-fought game and that the final score differential will be 7 or fewer points with the winner scoring in the low to mid 30's. I am concerned that we lost some OL experience going into TIU due to injury and that our secondary made some mistakes that an experienced one would not have made. I also look at the penalties and note that it is uncharacteristic of a Cecchini coached team. That must be remedied.
Here is the Drake website account:
Football Falls at No. 4 South Dakota State
BROOKINGS, S.D. – The Drake University football team dropped its first road contest of the season Saturday as the No. 4 South Dakota State Jackrabbits topped the Bulldogs 51-10 at Dykhouse Stadium in Brookings, S.D.
"We love playing these guys, because South Dakota State is such a good program. It helps raise our level of play to go against a program like this. They deserve the ranking they have and we wish them the best moving forward. We hope to continue this series in the future," said Drake head coach Rick Fox. "We were much better today than we were two weeks ago against South Dakota in terms of reducing the mental mistakes against a high-quality opponent. We got to do better with our execution in our techniques. You can get away with it against a lesser opponent but you can't get away with it against a team like South Dakota State."
The Jackrabbits' high powered offense was extremely efficient in the first-half, scoring on all five of its drives and went 4-for-4 on third-down conversions. The Bulldogs were forced to punt on their first four possessions and then SDSU forced a turnover, taking a 34-0 lead.
Taryn Christion led SDSU's offense by throwing for 171 yards with two touchdowns and also ran for one. Jake Wieneke was Christion's top target, catching four passes for 33 yards and touchdown. Dallas Goedert recorded three reception for 35 yards and a touchdown.
"Offensively they are loaded and have so many weapons. Their quarterback [Taryn Christion] can beat you in so many different ways and there isn't a weakness that you can force them to use," said Fox.
The Bulldogs managed to get on the board before the end of half, cutting SDSU's lead to 34-3. Senior quarterback Grant Kraemer helped orchestrate an 11-play 60-yard scoring drive, which was capped off by a 24-yard field goal by Danny Donley.
On the ensuing kickoff, Jackrabbits' Cade Johnson returned it for a 95-yard touchdown, giving SDSU a 41-3 lead at the half.
The Bulldogs scored their only touchdown of the game on their second drive of the second-half. Kraemer found an open Steve Doran in the middle of the field with two Jackrabbit defenders colliding into each other which helped Doran to break free for a 62-yard touchdown and cut SDSU's lead to 41-10.
The Jackrabbits came right back with a 64-yard touchdown drive and then used a 51-yard field goal by Chase Vinatieri in the fourth-quarter to earn the 51-10 victory.
Kraemer finished his evening throwing 18-of-31 for 201 yards and a touchdown. Doran was the team's top receiver with five catches for 91 yards. Brock Reichardt recorded 68 rushing yards on 16 carries.
Defensively, Connor Willis led the time with seven tackles, followed by Austin Dismond and Collin Seymour with five stops each.
Drake returns to Drake Stadium on Saturday and will welcome Valparaiso to open Pioneer Football League action.
A VERY superficial assessment of the Box Score >> http://godrakebulldogs.com/custompages/Statistics/football17/du03.htm << produced these items that jumped out.
> Drake had the majority of possession time 34:19 to 25:41
> Most SDSU scoring drives were quick but sustained: 1:50 TD, 3:05 TD, 4:45 TD, 1:58 TD, 0:38 TD, 0:00 TD (95 yd KO return), 2:51 TD, 2:57 FG
> Total Offense for Drake 324; SDSU 377. Actually, pretty close, but Drake had the ball almost 9 more minutes.
> SDSU appears to have taken their foot off the pedal in the second half -- gave their backup QB 13 pass attempts, 7 backs had carries in the game and 9 receivers had at least 1 reception
> SDSU had leads of 34-0, 34-3, 41-3 (at the half); 41-10, 48-10 and 51-10
> Drake starting QB was 18-31-1 TD and 1 INT for 201 yards. Sacked 4 times.
Drake OL and DL starters. Note, with one exception, they are all seniors.
O-LINE
LT - 68: 6-5, 290 (Sr)
LG - 55: 6-3, 282 (R-Sr)
C - 62: 6-2, 270 (Sr)
RG - 72: 6-3, 297 (R-Sr)
RT - 77: 6-3, 301 (So)
TE - 88: 6-3, 224 (Sr)
Also:
QB - 15: 6-3, 231 (Sr)
D-LINE
DE - 91: 6-2, 246 (R-Sr)
NG - 56: 6-3, 267 (Sr)
DT - 46: 6-4, 282 (Sr)
DE - 96: 6-2, 246 (R-Sr)
Valpo needs one of these!
http://mashable.com/2017/09/17/boise-state-football-kickoff-dog/#eMyXZguVXNqA
SO LB Tyler Newkirk has left team. Played a bit as a freshman, was a back up to begin year.
Honestly wonder how Drake can redshirt every single player and keep everyone on roster. While Valpo plays kids as freshmen and they they leave I.E. Hall, Cambell, Farwick, Orlich, Penn, Moore, Newkirk
Quote from: valpofb16 on September 19, 2017, 03:21:59 PMSO LB Tyler Newkirk has left team. Played a bit as a freshman, was a back up to begin year. Honestly wonder how Drake can redshirt every single player and keep everyone on roster. While Valpo plays kids as freshmen and they they leave I.E. Hall, Cambell, Farwick, Orlich, Penn, Moore, Newkirk
I asked the same question prior to camp. I'm not sure what the answer is. Let's keep in mind that there were some issues with a player or two who "left" which can't be prevented.
Quote from: valpofb16 on September 19, 2017, 03:21:59 PM
SO LB Tyler Newkirk has left team. Played a bit as a freshman, was a back up to begin year.
Honestly wonder how Drake can redshirt every single player and keep everyone on roster. While Valpo plays kids as freshmen and they they leave I.E. Hall, Cambell, Farwick, Orlich, Penn, Moore, Newkirk
I'll take a shot at that. I think the answer goes back over time. Drake has been a competitive PFL team from the start.
They have:
>> A combined record in the PFL of
173 wins, 86 losses and 1 tie over a span from 1993 to 2016.
>> In that span of 23 seasons, suffered
only 2 losing campaigns and
>> Amassed
6 PFL titles.
This history enables them to justify and get buy-in for a "Drake Bulldog Way" I suppose. And that would include telling recruits that, unless you are Superman, (1) you will be redshirted as a freshman, (2) you will be expected to wait your turn, and (3) you will learn from the players ahead of you.
Valpo will not be able to do that until we are consistently .500 or above and, even then, it will take many years to get the kind of consistency exhibited by Drake that would afford us the ability to implement a "Valpo Way" that results in senior-dominated teams year in and year out.
I don't know if this has any bearing, but Drake put 65 players on the 2016 PFL academic honor roll compared to 41 for Valpo. What blows this up a bit is that Butler put 95 on the list. 95! C'mon Man, that's the entire football team.
Quote from: VULB#62 on September 19, 2017, 09:28:57 PMThis history enables them to justify and get buy-in for a "Drake Bulldog Way" I suppose. And that would include telling recruits that, unless you are Superman, (1) you will be redshirted as a freshman, (2) you will be expected to wait your turn, and (3) you will learn from the players ahead of you. .................. What blows this up a bit is that Butler put 95 on the list. 95! C'mon Man, that's the entire football team.
Overall I think you're on to something. It helps to set expectation so when the player isn't starting by year 2 he's not disappointed enough to leave.
When Butler published their list, did they put it out there as "everybody made the list except these 3 players".
Quote from: JD24 on September 19, 2017, 09:42:37 PM
When Butler published their list, did they put it out there as "everybody made the list except these 3 players".
:rotfl:
Quote from: JD24 on September 19, 2017, 09:42:37 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on September 19, 2017, 09:28:57 PMThis history enables them to justify and get buy-in for a "Drake Bulldog Way" I suppose. And that would include telling recruits that, unless you are Superman, (1) you will be redshirted as a freshman, (2) you will be expected to wait your turn, and (3) you will learn from the players ahead of you. .................. What blows this up a bit is that Butler put 95 on the list. 95! C'mon Man, that's the entire football team.
Overall I think you're on to something. It helps to set expectation so when the player isn't starting by year 2 he's not disappointed enough to leave.
When Butler published their list, did they put it out there as "everybody made the list except these 3 players".
BTW, I would not restrict this approach to just Drake. USD and Dayton are also in a position to do the same based on an extended record of consistent success. After that, most teams will have some winning seasons and some losing seasons so that they can't get that type of commitment from recruits.
OH, oh. I owe Butler football an apology. It was not 95. It was 75. :-[ And Dayton had 79.
But still........
One concerning issue with the Drake game is the number of true freshman who've now appeared on the two deep due to some injuries and could get worse if Scargle can't go. He was on crutches after the game Saturday. Of course, he's a freshman himself but at least he has some serious game experience.
As an aside, maybe valpofb16 can add here if he can, is Austin Petrie injured? He went from starting at OLB to off the two deep inside of two weeks.
Here's Todds Drake preview YouTube. Dave emphasizes Drakes size, very strong, experienced defense and the need to stop the Drake running attack. He also gives much credit to the Drake QB for being a good thrower with good football experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvA_XDEG098&feature=youtu.be
As far as Petrie no idea showed up in stat line last week just didnt start, i know coaches love Poloskey and Skarecky,
Defense injuries are adding up thougn Studyvin, Reed, Iery, Lane, Scargle, Riley. Mixed with attrition of Newkirk, Hall, Cambell, Johnson
No bueno. No bueno
#29 Benavides left team
#48 Baker left team
For what its worth OL Ron Williams #78 has moved to DT, 6-1 365 nice size
we also have a rare grade transfer to Valpo Wilyem Thomas D3 oline likely to redshirt this year
Quote from: valpofb16 on September 20, 2017, 02:38:53 PMAs far as Petrie no idea showed up in stat line last week just didnt start, i know coaches love Poloskey and Skarecky, Defense injuries are adding up thougn Studyvin, Reed, Iery, Lane, Scargle, Riley. Mixed with attrition of Newkirk, Hall, Cambell, Johnson No bueno. No bueno #29 Benavides left team #48 Baker left team
So Benavides played in a couple of games as a freshman, doesn't play game 3 and now he's gone. I hope there's more to this one.
We will be having lunch the Library (do not let the name fool you) on University Ave. and then off to Drake Stadium to see Valpo reach the 500 for the first time since ???
Quote from: usc4valpo on September 22, 2017, 06:40:27 PMWe will be having lunch the Library (do not let the name fool you) on University Ave. and then off to Drake Stadium to see Valpo reach the 500 for the first time since ???
Last year.
Valpo beat Davidson in game 4 and was 2 up and 2 down after 4 games and had Morehead State on the ropes in game 5. Valpo's defense allowed a 17 play drive to end the game with MSU scoring a TD to go ahead.
game day in Des Moines baby!! It will be hot in Dog Town. Where will you all be?
Represent the rest of well!
Petrie is out
We are moving the ball. That track meet that someone predicted might happen.
Injuries might push us closer to 2-9 than the expect 5-7 wins
WR: Rene, Larose
OL: Jarnigan
CB: Scargle, Riley
DL: Iery, Studyvin, Reed
Also why did we completely abandon Cartales and Boxrucker both were working. Instead we force fed Jarrett. Also if you bring Duncan in and the defense loads the box, its not like the kid cant throw (Remember Montana?). Defensive line is just not hitting home but we can't blitz due to injury. Jarnigan is worst injury we could possibly have.
I'm writing this late third quarter
Can't stop their screen game
Quote from: valpofb16 on September 23, 2017, 03:07:23 PMInjuries might push us closer to 2-9 than the expect 5-7 wins WR: Rene, Larose
I think it was Boxrucker who was hurt on the kick coverage play. 32 not 82. Boxrucker was not seen after that at least at RB.
Seewald looked really rattled in the 2nd half. In fact, in the drive after the exchange of picks, the offense ran the ball likely to reduce the stress on Seewald even though they had 3 scores to get at a point it was still doable. Jarnagin was a big loss. Offense really fell apart after he went out. Lets hope it is not a long term issue.
We just aren't there yet. Sure, we are bigger and deeper and more experienced than before, but that wasn't all that tough to do. On the road, in the heat, with our injuries, all of a sudden we we're relying on freshman again. And at that, against a team starting mostly seniors or red-shirt seniors and for their Homecoming. It was just too much. Hope some of the guys who went down or those on the mend can make it back.
We've got Homecoming next weekend and I'm coming up to see a win!!
The defense gas gassed out in second half. When Drake drove 98 for a score, I knew it was over.
btw, there was a simply pathetic non pass intervene call in the second quarter and there was a dad in row 1 really ripping into the ref. it was pretty intense.
Valpo had no pressure on the QB and the secondary had a rough day.
Quote from: usc4valpo on September 23, 2017, 06:29:32 PMThe defense gas gassed out in second half. When Drake drove 98 for a score, I knew it was over. btw, there was a simply pathetic non pass intervene call in the second quarter and there was a dad in row 1 really ripping into the ref. it was pretty intense. Valpo had no pressure on the QB and the secondary had a rough day.
There were some non calls on both sides I thought. There are a couple of sets of parents who spent a good portion of last year bellowing at the referees and not necessarily for anything warranted. I'll guess said dad is the father of a WR.
In short, the secondary is awful and it's not just an inexperience issue. There are some players who should be the glue who have acted like the holes and the occasional hard hit does not make up for what they are allowing.
Overall this may have been the most disappointing game in the Cecchini era. The team appeared to have made a quantum leap forward and should have been able to play with this team and Valpo got a spanking. Last year's game was closer and this team is supposed to be better. Valpo did not play like they are yesterday.
Coach's comments regarding "we proved we could play with them in the first half" is pure nonsense. You don't prove anything in a half. Once again, looking back to last year's Drake game shows that the '16 team was driving for a tying TD in the 4th quarter when they ran out of gas and then Seewald threw a bad pick (very reminiscent of the first pick yesterday) which put the game out of reach. So I'm not sure Valpo is any more "playing with them" at least in this game than they were last year.
We also heard some comments regarding "depth issues" and some bizarre "next year" comments which is certainly odd after the first league game of a year the team was supposed to make some big jumps. Now we're already talking about next year? It's year 4. The depth issues, experience issues and next year issues should no longer be a factor. Figure out how to win games.
Stetson's up next. In short, Stetson stinks and appears to be a bit in a state of disarray especially offensively after the death of a player and being displaced by a hurricane for a week. This is as much a must win for the program as there has been in this staff's Valpo era.
Quote from: JD24 on September 24, 2017, 09:23:08 AM
Quote from: usc4valpo on September 23, 2017, 06:29:32 PMThe defense gas gassed out in second half. When Drake drove 98 for a score, I knew it was over. btw, there was a simply pathetic non pass intervene call in the second quarter and there was a dad in row 1 really ripping into the ref. it was pretty intense. Valpo had no pressure on the QB and the secondary had a rough day.
There were some non calls on both sides I thought. There are a couple of sets of parents who spent a good portion of last year bellowing at the referees and not necessarily for anything warranted. I'll guess said dad is the father of a WR.
In short, the secondary is awful and it's not just an inexperience issue. There are some players who should be the glue who have acted like the holes and the occasional hard hit does not make up for what they are allowing.
I'll confirm that. At Montana, he sat behind us and was on the officals so intensely that me and my family (including 2 grandsons 10 and 13) had to move to get away from the loud, embarrassing diatribes. Some Valpo fans and Montana fans just looked at this guy and then kind of slid away like the way you'd do if he was farting uncontrollably. Midway in the 3rd quarter no one except his wife was within 15 feet of him. This guy did his best to undo all the good things about the Valpo/Montana atmosphere.
Some things never change...
You have the dad who wants to live his life based on his son's success or endeavors.
You also have the dad who really thinks his kid is preparing for NFL by playing for Valpo (yes, I saw this in college, I kid you not).