5 burning questions heading into 2017-2018:
1. Who plays center? Profit played 5 minutes last year. That is it on experience. I am not counting Franklin because we do not want to use her there.
2. When will Konieczny take over at point?
3. Will Hamlet's find her shot? She struggled last year at least part due to an attempt to play her at point.
4. Where will Donchetz fit in? She was a spark plug last year though they did not seem to know what to do with her.
5. Where must we finish to save coaching jobs? Will our traditional 8-9 place finish be enough.
I think that the whole team needs to find their shot. I watched some brutal games last year in regards to shooting %.
Quote from: IndyValpo on October 01, 2017, 03:33:10 PM5. Where must we finish to save coaching jobs? Will our traditional 8-9 place finish be enough.
Unless the newcomers are far better than expected, I don't see anything but a top 3 finish, and playing Arch Madness in the championship game would be able to save coaching jobs.
Quote from: covufan on October 02, 2017, 03:10:08 PMand playing Arch Madness in the championship game would be able to save coaching jobs.
The women's basketball conference championship is played in the Quad Cities (Moline) in March.
http://mvc-sports.com/sports/2017/7/3/2018MVCQuadCities.aspx
Has anyone heard if the younger sister of Alec Peters is on our radar. I believe she is a junior this year and is an outstanding player and shooter.
Quote from: valpo64 on October 07, 2017, 08:46:10 PM
Has anyone heard if the younger sister of Alec Peters is on our radar. I believe she is a junior this year and is an outstanding player and shooter.
I'd imagine she'd have to be on the coaching staff's radar. It would almost have to be negligence not to be recruiting or at the very least keeping her on their radar. Seems like the basketball skills run in the family.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZcac4HlLe7/?taken-by=4apeters
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXD5uSUFbed/?taken-by=4apeters
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXDmOh4F8A2/?taken-by=4apeters
John Kiser's sister Emily is one of the top players in the State of Indiana for her class (2018). She's a 6'3″ Power Forward/Center. She committed to Michigan. I believe the Valpo Staff was recruiting her.
https://twitter.com/CoachMcDowell1/status/919330857567047680
This young lady has talent. Hate saying it, but like many before her, I think she will under-achieve with this coaching staff. Let's hope if a change comes after this season, she still has interest.
Having a daughter who was an athlete, I know that these women basically respond well to tough coaching as long as what they do well is rewarded and their deficiencies are responded to with ways to improve, rather that striaight out negativism. Female athletes will work well with a task master as long as there is continual, honest communication along the way. On the other hand, if there is little demand, only the most motivated, and that special female athlete will rise above that or will seek a more challenging environment. .
I have no idea what approaches this staff employs, but it just does not seem to be working. And I am not even going to go into Xs and Os because I am not capabile in that area.
In my mind most sports come down to four things:
>> Raw talent/recruting
>> Overall coaching philosophy and its implementation (see above)
>> Player skill development
>> Game strategy (Xs and Os) and then on-the-fly adjustments
With some exceptions...... A winning program will be exceptional if all 4 criteria are consitently met. It will be successful if 3 out of 4 come into play. Mediocrity will eventually prevail with only 2. Less than that, and you just lose more often than you win.
So, where have we been or where are we now?
On a scale of 0 (lowest) to 3 (highest) my untrained assessment so far is:
Talent - 1.5
Approach - I have no idea
Skill development - 1
Strategy - 0.5
Am I being too critical?
IMHO, the weakest link is philosophy. It hasn't worked, and it hasn't changed. You would think with the different influx of coaches and ideas over the past several years, something would get tweeked, or changed to some degree. It hasn't happened. We need a coach that knows how to work with, and develop the bigs. Our position, and footwork inside is terrible. Our offense is too vanilla and predictable. I don't see that changing this season.
FYI, for those interested in the WBB team here is a video from October 9th showing the women's first practice.
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/917498340987887616
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/921104146928947200
WBB is not picked 10th!! We beat out Loyola and are picked 9th.
http://www.valpoathletics.com/wbasketball/news/2017-18/17712/missouri-valley-conference-releases-womens-basketball-preseason-poll/#.We9GzEyZMo8
Interesting observation on the preseason all-MVC team is that there is only one player at 6-1 and one at 6-0. The rest are all 5-10 or shorter. For some reason, I figured being the MVC there would be at least one big "Big." Also, depite having the highest ppg average of returning MVC players, Dani Franklin did not make the first team. The article and the MVC site didn't identify a second team or honorable mention..
Like our Men's team, the Women's team must be one of, if not the tallest Valpo team ever. Nine players 6' or taller and one standing 6'5"!!
http://www.valpoathletics.com/wbasketball/roster/#.We9oD2iPLIU
Quote from: vu72 on October 24, 2017, 11:21:21 AM
Like our Men's team, the Women's team must be one of, if not the tallest Valpo team ever. Nine players 6' or taller and one standing 6'5"!!
http://www.valpoathletics.com/wbasketball/roster/#.We9oD2iPLIU
.... and 4 of the 9, 6-2 or taller, are freshmen. I hope they have skills and are not projects.
They could be 7ft. It won't matter if the coaches can't figure out how to work with and develop the bigs. I don't see a coach on staff that can do that.
Fun Fact: Alec Peters sister Anne will be playing for Micah Bradford's Dad's AAU Program 'Example Sports' next summer. It would be cool to see another Peters wearing the Brown and Gold. I've heard she's a pretty good player. I wonder if the coaching staff is recruiting her.
https://twitter.com/annepeters25/status/924798222085840896
https://twitter.com/barrybradford3/status/924796191702945793
https://twitter.com/annepeters25/status/918662157977378817
https://twitter.com/ValpoWBB/status/925476408431988736
https://twitter.com/ValpoWBB/status/928100353354190848
Some poor shooting numbers...again
Yeah the shooting is going to need to improve. At least they were hitting their free throws.
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/928072006955913216
http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/morrison-making-her-own-name-at-valparaiso/article_bf004770-c8ad-5ba8-86e2-17b173c50eb7.html
Morrison making her own name at Valparaiso
Paul Oren
Nov 7, 2017
https://twitter.com/ValpoWBB/status/929038459691569152
https://twitter.com/ValpoWBB/status/929038729951498240
Any info on these two that I missed?
Shay Frederick committed way back in August of 2016.
http://www.waupacanow.com/2016/11/18/hortonville-basketball-led-by-ncaa-prospects/
Frederick said she has been recruited to play college basketball since eighth grade.
A three-star recruit according to ESPN, Frederick had offers from UW-Milwaukee and Youngstown State and had interest from schools in the Big Ten, Big East and Horizon League. After visiting the Valparaiso campus in August, she was sold.
"I met the team, players, watched a practice, went around campus and I just loved it," Frederick said. "Everything there appealed to me and was just what I'm looking for, so I just thought, 'Why wait?' And I made my decision around late August or early September."
Pitts committed in June.
http://basketball.dailyherald.com/sports/20170622/montinis-pitts-chooses-valpo
"Pitts, a 5-6 rising senior, averaged 7 points a game for the Broncos (33-2) last season and played a key role in their Class 4A third-place finish. She made 38 3-point shots, with 87 rebounds and 81 assists.
Pitts becomes the latest in a series of Montini basketball players to commit to Division I colleges, and she won't be the last. Aaliyah Patty, a 6-foot-3 post player, and 6-5 Lindsey Jarosinski are being recruited by a number of teams and could announce their picks soon."
The Valparaiso women's staff has really been hitting the recruiting trail hard. They've made quite a few offers recently.
https://twitter.com/GeoffWong2/status/930065153013448705
Does anyone know if VU offered junior Carissa Garcia from Concordia Fort Wayne? Indy Star has her as a preseason All-State underclass player. In Concordia's first 3 games she is averaging 25.3 ppg and is 14-23 from 3 which is 60.9%. Concordia is ranked 6th in 3A by Sagarin and starts 3 freshmen a junior and a senior. Carissa verbaled this summer to NKU. They should also be looking at 6'-2" freshmen Chanteese Craig. Chanteese is VERY long and already has 12 blocks this season.
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/930905947341541376
http://www.valpoathletics.com/wbasketball/news/2017-18/17792/womens-basketball-announces-2018-19-recruiting-class/#.WgywxmJSxQJ
Women's Basketball Announces 2018-19 Recruiting Class
Wednesday, November 15, 2017
Do we have any current players that are 3 star? Sounds like quite a get!
I'm just happy neither of them were named Taylor. Of course then they would be softball players.
They looked really good tonight. Dani Franklin was dominant and their freshman Bryce Blood looks like a player. 13pts and 13 reb in her debut.
81-47 in case you missed the final.
http://www.valpoathletics.com/wbasketball/boxscore/2017-18/6535/iu-kokomo-11-16-2017/
Dani... the leader... with 26. Great Start ladies...
Quote from: VU2014 on November 16, 2017, 10:38:46 PM
They looked really good tonight. Dani Franklin was dominant and their freshman Bryce Blood looks like a player. 13pts and 13 reb in her debut.
You have to love that name,
Bryce Blood!
Dani Franklin is leading the MVC in scoring.
https://twitter.com/ValleyHoops/status/934476278270496768
https://twitter.com/ValpoWBB/status/934537430761435143
Valpo women pull out a 5 point win. It was a much needed win. I didn't watch this game but it was good seeing the Crusaders didn't buckle when the pressure was on at the end of the game. Good win, ladies!
http://www.valpoathletics.com/wbasketball/boxscore/2017-18/6537/grand-canyon-vs-valpo-11-25-2017/
It appears the GCU women's coach, Nicole Powell, went to Stanford at the same time that Matt Lottich played basketball at Stanford. 2000-2004.
http://www.gculopes.com/coaches.aspx?rc=931&path=wbball
http://www.valpoathletics.com/wbasketball/news/2017-18/17823/crusaders-defend-home-court-top-antelopes-with-team-effort-on-saturday/
Good to see that our shooting numbers are better this year...so far. Congrats on the win!
We lose @ Liberty 12/2 by 21 points. Looking at the box score I see Dani had only 4 points in 30 minutes on the floor on 1-5 shooting. Four points??? She had only 5 shots? If Liberty was focusing on her, why wasn't there an adjustment made to free her up more? She is kind of the analogy to AP on the women's side -- she is a scorer. Just askin.... Jack. Any thoughts?
Poor preperation. Liberty knew as Dani goes, so does Valpo. This game magnified our coaching woes. I could go on, but I will leave it at that.
Our women's team has a game vs Purdue today. Hopefully they play a little better then the men's team did against Purdue last night.
Purdue 85
Valpo 42
It is going to be bad...
Somethings got to change. Valpo just lost to Purdue 95-49 after trailing at the half, 48-36. That means we were out scored 47-13 in the second half. Purdue isn't even receiving votes in the top 25. That, is pathetic. If she survives the end of the season I'll be surprised. If she is around for next year I'll pass on support. Bring back Keith!!!
Have our women ever played in front of 5,500? In the first half, it would seem that they were immune to the environment and played pretty close with a pretty good P-5 women's team. Then, BAM.
Did Purdue pump sleeping gas into the Valpo locker room at half time? Could we have just refused to come out for the second half and just take the loss at 48-36? What the heck happened?
Quote from: vu72 on December 08, 2017, 08:03:41 PM
Somethings got to change. Valpo just lost to Purdue 95-49 after trailing at the half, 48-36. That means we were out scored 47-13 in the second half. Purdue isn't even receiving votes in the top 25. That, is pathetic. If she survives the end of the season I'll be surprised. If she is around for next year I'll pass on support. Bring back Keith!!!
Sure let's bring back the guy that drove us to the mediocre level we remain at today.
Quote from: IndyValpo on December 09, 2017, 07:24:10 AM
Quote from: vu72 on December 08, 2017, 08:03:41 PM
Somethings got to change. Valpo just lost to Purdue 95-49 after trailing at the half, 48-36. That means we were out scored 47-13 in the second half. Purdue isn't even receiving votes in the top 25. That, is pathetic. If she survives the end of the season I'll be surprised. If she is around for next year I'll pass on support. Bring back Keith!!!
Sure let's bring back the guy that drove us to the mediocre level we remain at today.
Mediocre? We aren't close to mediocre. She has won more than ten games (11) once and that was the team she inherited from Keith. Keith had a winning record 13 of 18 years including a 26 win year and NCAA appearances and a deep run in the NIT. Mediocre? Really? :crazy:
Quote from: vu72 on December 09, 2017, 07:42:28 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on December 09, 2017, 07:24:10 AM
Quote from: vu72 on December 08, 2017, 08:03:41 PM
Somethings got to change. Valpo just lost to Purdue 95-49 after trailing at the half, 48-36. That means we were out scored 47-13 in the second half. Purdue isn't even receiving votes in the top 25. That, is pathetic. If she survives the end of the season I'll be surprised. If she is around for next year I'll pass on support. Bring back Keith!!!
Sure let's bring back the guy that drove us to the mediocre level we remain at today.
Mediocre? We aren't close to mediocre. She has won more than ten games (11) once and that was the team she inherited from Keith. Keith had a winning record 13 of 18 years including a 26 win year and NCAA appearances and a deep run in the NIT. Mediocre? Really? :crazy:
Yes 4 of his losing seasons were in his last 5 years. He finished with wins of 7, 9 and 10. Personally I would hope we could do better but whatever.
Keith deserves more credit than he gets on this board. We were very competitive throughout his tenure, outside of those last 3-4 years. Those 2 NCAA teams we had would destroy any of the teams we have put out on the floor in the last 6 seasons. There is a large difference in athletic ability, IMO. Our players used to be quick and could get inside. Whenever I watch a game now, we seem so slow, and get stopped on every dribble drive. I yearn for the days when someone like a Betsy Rietema or Jeannette Gray would come to Valpo. They could get in the lane and open shots for other shooters at the 3 pt line, where someone like Suzie Hammel or Kathryn Knoester would knock them down on a regular basis. Something needs to change, as we are capable of so much more...
Also, worth noting is that we were tied 35-35, so Purdue went on a 60-14 run to end the game.
this team is not mediocre. this team is poor.
Dani Franklin with 23 today as Valpo beat Chicago State 71-60
CSUW 15 13 18 14 60
VALP 13 24 12 22 71
A team that has 45+ losses in a row! I feel for their program, as their coach had them moving in the right direction during our last years in the Mid-Con, before their university fell apart.
Quote from: valpotx on December 09, 2017, 11:35:20 AM
Keith deserves more credit than he gets on this board. We were very competitive throughout his tenure, outside of those last 3-4 years. Those 2 NCAA teams we had would destroy any of the teams we have put out on the floor in the last 6 seasons. There is a large difference in athletic ability, IMO. Our players used to be quick and could get inside. Whenever I watch a game now, we seem so slow, and get stopped on every dribble drive. I yearn for the days when someone like a Betsy Rietema or Jeannette Gray would come to Valpo. They could get in the lane and open shots for other shooters at the 3 pt line, where someone like Suzie Hammel or Kathryn Knoester would knock them down on a regular basis. Something needs to change, as we are capable of so much more...
Also, worth noting is that we were tied 35-35, so Purdue went on a 60-14 run to end the game.
Freeman's last few years at Valpo were plagued with injuries. I recall several games when he only had 5 available players. I believe most of that season he had 7 available, and he still managed 10 or 11 wins. Then there was the monkey wrench thrown in when Ladd decided to up and leave.
It's been several years since this team had a legitimate point guard, and when they did, there was little help from the coaching staff. I've believed for some time that we have a D2 staff with a D1 program. I agree, something should change.
Quote from: valpotx on December 10, 2017, 08:52:57 PM
A team that has 45+ losses in a row! I feel for their program, as their coach had them moving in the right direction during our last years in the Mid-Con, before their university fell apart.
I checked the box score and a recurring theme seems to be holding: We come out flat and don't adjust in the third quarter.
1ST 2ND 3RD 4TH FINAL
Chicago State 15 13
18 14 60
Valparaiso 13 24
12 22 71
CSU was an inferior opponent and it happened the same way against Purdue, but in spades.
Valpo knocks off Eastern Illinois on the road 76-67. That's 3 wins in a row, okay they were against Chicago State, IU-Northwest and Eastern Illinois but it was only the second road win and it was against a team that was 1-7 going into the game........................oh!, never mind.............
First winning season after 10 games since 2001-2002.
RealTimeRPI has our SOS at 329. Almost as if this schedule was put together to put up some Ws in the last year of a contract. ;)
https://twitter.com/MHS_Girls_/status/946135965491441664
The women are now 9-7, and 2-3 in conference. Not too bad, so far.
I watched their game yesterday and I would agree that they have improved a fair amount--though Loyola is pretty bad! I love they fast paced game led by their freshman point guard who is REALLY fast. Also applaud Dani Franklin for getting 1500 points!! :cheers:
Regardless, I really hope we more on from Dorow. ML has shown pretty good judgement with coaches. Good time to make a change. Cupboard certainly won't be bare next year.
In other news, Jasmyn Walker is having a disappointing first season at Western Michigan, only averaging 8 ppg, and shooting poorly. I know that she is able to play with her younger sister, but she could have been so much more.
What was a 3 point game in the third against MO State, went to crap with a 24-0 run by the Bears. Seriously??
I couldn't watch any longer. Down 10 after the 1st, then battle back to down 4 at the half, only to be outscored by 20 in the 3rd. They had 19 assts to 7 TOs. They are in 1st place but stat wise, going into the game, we were almost a complete match. Ouch!
It is the "Peter Principal" for the Coach...she is not able to adjust and coach at this level...way over her head...time for a change. It is getting to be embarrassing
They should be 75% in the win column with the schedule they have. They have underachieved based on the talent, since coach Dorow came on board.
On another note, previous assistant Katie Collignon is having a great season coaching Marquette Catholic. They're #2 in 1A right now. Congrats!
Our women's team is better than our men's team for the first time in a long, long time
Quote from: valpotx on January 26, 2018, 09:54:47 PM
Our women's team is better than our men's team for the first time in a long, long time
The MVC women's game isn't as strong as the men. It looks like a good fit, plus we have a good balance of women that are matched up very well. The women used to rely on Dani Franklin's scoring. Now we have a strong balance of Hamlet, Blood, Morrison, Hales, and others on the roster that can score. They don't have to rely on Dani to do it all. It has definitely shown more in MVC play that Dani has been a great foundation to build around, instead of letting all of the work be on Dani's shoulder, others have taken on the scoring brunt, or leadership.
Quote from: valporun on January 27, 2018, 01:29:35 PM
Quote from: valpotx on January 26, 2018, 09:54:47 PM
Our women's team is better than our men's team for the first time in a long, long time
The MVC women's game isn't as strong as the men. It looks like a good fit, plus we have a good balance of women that are matched up very well. The women used to rely on Dani Franklin's scoring. Now we have a strong balance of Hamlet, Blood, Morrison, Hales, and others on the roster that can score. They don't have to rely on Dani to do it all. It has definitely shown more in MVC play that Dani has been a great foundation to build around, instead of letting all of the work be on Dani's shoulder, others have taken on the scoring brunt, or leadership.
It still comes down to Ws and Ls. Until we can win some games we aren't expected to, I don't see it as progress. We aren't even winning all the games we should. With the schedule so far, I would expect a 13 - 7 record, and would be disappointed if I was this coaching staff. We'll see how we fair on this road trip.
We scored 101 earlier in the week against Evansville and yesterday we had to score 25 in the 4th quarter to reach 54. Now that is consistency! First loss at home...
Quote from: IndyValpo on January 29, 2018, 08:42:14 AM
We scored 101 earlier in the week against Evansville and yesterday we had to score 25 in the 4th quarter to reach 54. Now that is consistency! First loss at home...
Second home loss. Lost to Bradley also 88 - 69.
I think for a number of people posting on this board that you should be much more concerned and critical with the women's program thasn with Coach Lottich. As has been said before, we are just not used to a very inexperienced team after a number of years with a veteran team. You just never knoiw abourt how recruits will pan out in many areas, from ability on this level, academiocs, social adjustments, etc., injuries, etc, let alone the upgrade to the MVC. I believe thast womwn's program is a total disaster. I think we have some good recruits but it ends once they get here.
Quote from: valpo64 on January 29, 2018, 11:40:28 AM
I think for a number of people posting on this board that you should be much more concerned and critical with the women's program thasn with Coach Lottich. As has been said before, we are just not used to a very inexperienced team after a number of years with a veteran team. You just never knoiw abourt how recruits will pan out in many areas, from ability on this level, academiocs, social adjustments, etc., injuries, etc, let alone the upgrade to the MVC. I believe thast womwn's program is a total disaster. I think we have some good recruits but it ends once they get here.
Clearly the history under Coach Dorrow is not good, to say the least. Having said that I will add that I have watched a fair amount of their games and clearly see potential. They have the second tallest team in our history, the first team point guard went down with a season ending injury, of the top five scorers, two are freshman and one is a sophomore. They graduate only two, one of which plays a significant role.
Apparently they are adding a couple of high quality kids next year as well, both are great shooters and both are rated ESPN 3 star.
I'd give her one more year to produce an upper half Valley team or be shown the door.
Her contract is up, and a one year extension doesn't really work for either side. It's just time to move on. A new coach can come in with some talent already in place and start off in a really good situation.
This team has under-achieved with the talent on hand for many years. A one year extension or a 5 year contract won't change that. New blood, with a new philosophy is needed now.
6 games plus tourney remain; we are at 11-12 overall 4-8 and 8th in the MVC. 4 Home games against 1,2,3,4 in the standings. Road games at Ind St (#5) and hapless Evansville. Looks like a 8 vs 9 match up against Loyola. We traditionally win that game, claim momentum and save Dorow's job. Will this year be any different?
Amen, jack! You are right on the money!
A very tough and hard fought loss tonight in 2OT.
https://twitter.com/ValpoWBB/status/964705109044350977
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/964729960001884160
Tough loss. They have shown improvement.
Maya's shot was #9 on ESPN's SportsCenter Top 10 this morning...
Come on out to the Women's game with MoSt on Sunday afternoon at 3...what else is there to do?
Quote from: talksalot on February 17, 2018, 11:44:16 PM
Maya's shot was #9 on ESPN's SportsCenter Top 10 this morning...
Come on out to the Women's game with MoSt on Sunday afternoon at 3...what else is there to do?
Nap?
That's what half-times are for! (after the Crusaderettes)
oh, unless you are in the band.
I think tonight should have sealed Coach Dorow's fate. Lost again to a 9-16 Indiana State team by 18, and they called off the dogs. She just can't coach at this level. The kids looked like they just weren't interested. I have watched several games and at times we look very good but still can't quite pull it off. Tonight was never really even close. Time for a change.
If that comes to be, do ya think Katie Colignon, former VU WBB assistant and current AD and head girls coach at Marquette HS, would be on the list? She just won the state Class A championship.
62, that is a stretch. How about giving Sheryl Swoopes a second chance and remove the snowflakes?
From Wikipedia:
In 2013, Swoopes became head coach of the Loyola University Chicago women's basketball team. In April 2016, Loyola announced that it was investigating Swoopes of alleged mistreatment, after the school newspaper reported that 10 of the team's players have either transferred or want a release from their scholarships. On July 4, 2016, Loyola announced it had fired Swoopes as a result of the investigation but declined to say what it had found.
In July 2017, Swoopes returned to her alma mater, Texas Tech, hired as the women's basketball program's Director of Player Development, where her job will include resuming work as broadcast color analysis for Lady Raiders games. Following the firing of head coach Candi Whitaker on January 1, 2018, Swoopes was promoted to regular assistant coach under interim head coach Shimmy Gray-Miller.
Well, there you go. No one really knows what happened to Swoopes at Loyola, but women's basketball there has always been bad. With her accomplishments, it would be interesting to even consider it.
Btw, Loyola has not been any better since she left.
I am just stirring conversation.
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 24, 2018, 05:09:52 PM
62, that is a stretch. How about giving Sheryl Swoopes a second chance and remove the snowflakes?
Katie has a second potential championship next year even if they get moved up a class. But no she is not a candidate although she'd be ahead of Swoopes whose chance would be zero.
Austin Parkinson at IUPUI could be a possibility.
Hey, I am just presenting a conversation, and maybe hinting that some risk would be good. Swooped is one of the greatest women's players of all time - but no one will really know what happened at Loyola. Are we really going to get excited about bringing in a coach from IUPUI?
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 24, 2018, 07:40:23 PM
Hey, I am just presenting a conversation, and maybe hinting that some risk would be good. Swooped is one of the greatest women's players of all time - but no one will really know what happened at Loyola. Are we really going to get excited about bringing in a coach from IUPUI?
Hey I am just presenting a conversation hinting that someone who has had success would be good. Let's see, Indiana All Star, played at Purdue, took over a program more decimated that what Swoopes did to Loyola....here is his bio. Add a 20-8 record this season.
http://www.iupuijags.com/coaches.aspx?rc=598&path=wbball
Quote from: IndyValpo on February 24, 2018, 07:10:42 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 24, 2018, 05:09:52 PM
62, that is a stretch. How about giving Sheryl Swoopes a second chance and remove the snowflakes?
Katie has a second potential championship next year even if they get moved up a class. But no she is not a candidate although she'd be ahead of Swoopes whose chance would be zero.
Austin Parkinson at IUPUI could be a possibility.
I believe Katie would be a good investment for this team. I caught a game of hers by chance this past season. She's very collected on the sidelines, manages the clock well, and clearly has her players respect and support. She would also have a great shot at getting the 2 twins that are tearing up the court to follow her here.
Regardless, something must change, period.
Quote from: jack on February 25, 2018, 11:29:11 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on February 24, 2018, 07:10:42 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 24, 2018, 05:09:52 PM
62, that is a stretch. How about giving Sheryl Swoopes a second chance and remove the snowflakes?
Katie has a second potential championship next year even if they get moved up a class. But no she is not a candidate although she'd be ahead of Swoopes whose chance would be zero.
Austin Parkinson at IUPUI could be a possibility.
I believe Katie would be a good investment for this team. I caught a game of hers by chance this past season. She's very collected on the sidelines, manages the clock well, and clearly has her players respect and support. She would also have a great shot at getting the 2 twins that are tearing up the court to follow her here.
Regardless, something must change, period.
The twins have already verballed with Saint Louis.
That's a good and respected reply.
Quote from: IndyValpo on February 24, 2018, 07:10:42 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 24, 2018, 05:09:52 PM
62, that is a stretch. How about giving Sheryl Swoopes a second chance and remove the snowflakes?
Katie has a second potential championship next year even if they get moved up a class. But no she is not a candidate although she'd be ahead of Swoopes whose chance would be zero.
Austin Parkinson at IUPUI could be a possibility.
Honestly, I would be very surprised if at this time Valparaiso hired Parkinson for women's basketball given the current university emphasis on hiring women and minorities, as well as the constant emphasis highlighting pride in women's contributions to MVC sports history we have seen, including in commercials accompanying every game this season.
Thanks for that perspective. Most fans don't always think in those terms and a university has to.
Quote from: valpopal on February 25, 2018, 01:26:04 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on February 24, 2018, 07:10:42 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 24, 2018, 05:09:52 PM
62, that is a stretch. How about giving Sheryl Swoopes a second chance and remove the snowflakes?
Katie has a second potential championship next year even if they get moved up a class. But no she is not a candidate although she'd be ahead of Swoopes whose chance would be zero.
Austin Parkinson at IUPUI could be a possibility.
Honestly, I would be very surprised if at this time Valparaiso hired Parkinson for women's basketball given the current university emphasis on hiring women and minorities, as well as the constant emphasis highlighting pride in women's contributions to MVC sports history we have seen, including in commercials accompanying every game this season.
Given that I give you Katie Geralds. Miss Basketball, Purdue, WNBA, two time NAIA Champion....
http://www.muknights.com/coach/17/2
Quote from: IndyValpo on February 25, 2018, 04:25:14 PM
Quote from: valpopal on February 25, 2018, 01:26:04 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on February 24, 2018, 07:10:42 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 24, 2018, 05:09:52 PM
62, that is a stretch. How about giving Sheryl Swoopes a second chance and remove the snowflakes?
Katie has a second potential championship next year even if they get moved up a class. But no she is not a candidate although she'd be ahead of Swoopes whose chance would be zero.
Austin Parkinson at IUPUI could be a possibility.
Honestly, I would be very surprised if at this time Valparaiso hired Parkinson for women's basketball given the current university emphasis on hiring women and minorities, as well as the constant emphasis highlighting pride in women's contributions to MVC sports history we have seen, including in commercials accompanying every game this season.
Given that I give you Katie Geralds. Miss Basketball, Purdue, WNBA, two time NAIA Champion....
http://www.muknights.com/coach/17/2 (http://www.muknights.com/coach/17/2)
Great resume, but first thing would be to get her name correct: Gearlds. :thumbsup:
Our incumbent coach had a sterling resume at an NCAA D-II institution as well. D-I is a world apart from the NAIAs and D-IIs and D-IIIs. Based on our current experience, it seems logical to expect the next WBB coach to be a great D-I recruiter AND floor coach.
Quote from: IndyValpo on February 25, 2018, 04:25:14 PM
Quote from: valpopal on February 25, 2018, 01:26:04 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on February 24, 2018, 07:10:42 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 24, 2018, 05:09:52 PM
62, that is a stretch. How about giving Sheryl Swoopes a second chance and remove the snowflakes?
Katie has a second potential championship next year even if they get moved up a class. But no she is not a candidate although she'd be ahead of Swoopes whose chance would be zero.
Austin Parkinson at IUPUI could be a possibility.
Honestly, I would be very surprised if at this time Valparaiso hired Parkinson for women's basketball given the current university emphasis on hiring women and minorities, as well as the constant emphasis highlighting pride in women's contributions to MVC sports history we have seen, including in commercials accompanying every game this season.
Given that I give you Katie Geralds. Miss Basketball, Purdue, WNBA, two time NAIA Champion....
http://www.muknights.com/coach/17/2
A friend of mine from church is a former neighbor of Katie's in Beech Grove. She is a very confident and fierce competitor.
Before all this talk begins, let's find out Dorow's fate as head coach.
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 26, 2018, 09:19:11 AM
Before all this talk begins, let's find out Dorow's fate as head coach.
Agreed my bad, I started it.....
Quote from: IndyValpo on February 25, 2018, 12:41:58 PM
Quote from: jack on February 25, 2018, 11:29:11 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on February 24, 2018, 07:10:42 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 24, 2018, 05:09:52 PM
62, that is a stretch. How about giving Sheryl Swoopes a second chance and remove the snowflakes?
Katie has a second potential championship next year even if they get moved up a class. But no she is not a candidate although she'd be ahead of Swoopes whose chance would be zero.
Austin Parkinson at IUPUI could be a possibility.
I believe Katie would be a good investment for this team. I caught a game of hers by chance this past season. She's very collected on the sidelines, manages the clock well, and clearly has her players respect and support. She would also have a great shot at getting the 2 twins that are tearing up the court to follow her here.
Regardless, something must change, period.
The twins have already verballed with Saint Louis.
We've seen, as they say, evidence that verbal commitments aren't worth the paper they're written on! :P
The men's jump up from the Horizon to the Valley is just the opposite for the ladies. The Valley Women's conference rpi is #24 while the Horizon is #11. Their first place team, Green Bay, is #22 while the Valley's first place team, Drake, is #76 and Valpo? RPI #295 and a SOS of #342. :o
The women's team did not show up for last nights home game against UNI. A sad display basically from the opening whistle.
Quote from: vu72 on February 27, 2018, 04:34:38 PM
The men's jump up from the Horizon to the Valley is just the opposite for the ladies. The Valley Women's conference rpi is #24 while the Horizon is #11. Their first place team, Green Bay, is #22 while the Valley's first place team, Drake, is #76 and Valpo? RPI #295 and a SOS of #342. :o
Is it too silly to postulate that given our current position in The Valley, we actually have the potential to rebrand Valpo women's basketball with a little better recruiting and a lot better coaching?
I was at the women's basketball game to honor the two stellar senior student-athletes, Franklin and Donchetz. The unfortunate scheduling had Valpo playing undefeated (18-0) conference leading Drake on Senior Day, which guaranteed a lopsided loss. However, it was great to see the warmth and pride on the bench and in the crowd toward these two young women, both of whom I have found to be as classy as can be off the court as well! :clap: :clap:
Ditto. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Thanks to these 2 young ladies for their contributions for 4 years. It can't be easy competing in this program. I wish them all the best. I am curious if anyone here feels this season represents progress, or, like me, were they expecting more after the move to the MVC. Progress, for me, would have included 2 or more unexpected "W"s this season. Looking back, I don't believe that happened. I wish these ladies well come tournament time.
Quote from: jack on March 04, 2018, 08:12:38 AM
Thanks to these 2 young ladies for their contributions for 4 years. It can't be easy competing in this program. I wish them all the best. I am curious if anyone here feels this season represents progress, or, like me, were they expecting more after the move to the MVC. Progress, for me, would have included 2 or more unexpected "W"s this season. Looking back, I don't believe that happened. I wish these ladies well come tournament time.
I think there was progress but it was minimal. I see us beating Loyola to gain the right to be dismantled by Drake again. This is like the last few seasons, replace UWGB with Drake.
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/971144117366525952
Neither of our BB teams seem to be having much luck going into the MVC tournament. :(
Quote from: VU2014 on March 06, 2018, 04:20:49 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/971144117366525952
I will take some abuse for this but, this seems really convenient given she was potentially let go by weeks end. She seemed fine at the last game.
I am, however not a doctor, though I do watch Chicago Med.
I've seen some doctor shows too. The conspiracy side of me wonders if this is a way for her to resign "for medical" reasons rather than be fired. After some time to properly "heal" she might just seek a new position elsewhere without the "stain" of a firing on her record. In any event I hope it is legit and that she does heal properly and I wish her all the best.
Should worry more about the stain of her record rather than the stain of being fired if that's the plan.
Shame, she's got the whole thing down except for the actual coaching. She's a pretty good recruiter, good ambassador for the university. Players seems to like her. She just flat out cannot coach. She'd actualy be a pretty good assistant.
This is a very bizarre and sad situation. Perhaps she wants to get healthcare before being relieved.
Too much baseless speculation going on here. And it's unfair to Coach Dorow. Let's just wait this one out.
Hopefully the staff and team pull together and perform above expectations.
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 07, 2018, 11:54:46 AM
Too much baseless speculation going on here. And it's unfair to Coach Dorow. Let's just wait this one out.
Hopefully the staff and team pull together and perform above expectations.
Sure, message boards are for actual news only, I forgot.
Oh, don't be snarky :)
Thursday, 4pm Central ESPN3 vs. Loyola (we beat 'em by 10 the last time we played them and by 16 in the ARC earlier in the year)
Congrats to the women on yesterday's victory.....perhaps today will be the female version of the Lutheran miracle...
If we keep it under 30 it will be an improvement from the first two meetings. Good luck!
A good win last night. I don't think Dorow is getting fired. The staff has recruited well the last few seasons with some nice recruits coming in next season. We had another tough loss with another ACL tear from our starting PG, which was a blow to this team. When I was listening to USH, ML didn't sound to down on the Women's coaches. It's too bad that Franklin is a senior. She's a great player that is surrounded by a lot of pieces that aren't fully developed yet.
Quote from: VU2014 on March 09, 2018, 10:41:42 AM
A good win last night. I don't think Dorow is getting fired. The staff has recruited well the last few seasons with some nice recruits coming in next season. We had another tough loss with another ACL tear from our starting PG, which was a blow to this team. When I was listening to USH, ML didn't sound to down on the Women's coaches. It's too bad that Franklin is a senior. She's a great player that is surrounded by a lot of pieces that aren't fully developed yet.
There is a huge difference between Loyola and Drake....we trail by 28 at half.
Quote from: IndyValpo on March 09, 2018, 12:50:23 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 09, 2018, 10:41:42 AM
A good win last night. I don't think Dorow is getting fired. The staff has recruited well the last few seasons with some nice recruits coming in next season. We had another tough loss with another ACL tear from our starting PG, which was a blow to this team. When I was listening to USH, ML didn't sound to down on the Women's coaches. It's too bad that Franklin is a senior. She's a great player that is surrounded by a lot of pieces that aren't fully developed yet.
There is a huge difference between Loyola and Drake....we trail by 28 at half.
Perhaps she won't. But if not we might be getting to merely average in the future. The 13 wins this year is her most at Valpo but when you look back at Keith's record, he was let go after winning 10 his last year and she won 10 her first year with his players.
Yes, we have a lot of youth but unfortunately so do teams like Drake, who is killing us with just one senior. More of the same will produce more of the same.
Let's not forget either that Freeman won those 10 games with anywhere from 5 to 7 healthy players. He never had more then that. I remember a couple of games with only 5 players. They had to recruit people just to have bodies for 5 on 5 practices.
Despite the MVC not being as good as the HL in WBB, mainly due to GB, I think this program has to move on and show our new conference mates and fan base that winning is a priority. Her contract is up, so you don't eat any money, and the cupboard is not bare for the next guy or gal.
It's time.
I didn't know her contract was up. Interesting. I wonder what a contract extension would look like in her situation. The team hasn't performed well over her tenure for whatever reason. Does anyone know how much she was getting paid? What is the going rate for a MVC women's basketball coach? If the Athletics Department isn't impressed with her work as a coach it may be time to go their separate ways. I still think she's going to be coming back. If you follow her on twitter she's retweeting the women's basketball twitter account, so I highly doubt she was let go.
Quote from: VU2014 on March 09, 2018, 01:43:33 PM
I didn't know her contract was up. Interesting. I wonder what a contract extension would look like in here situation. The team hasn't performed well over her tenure for whatever reason. Does anyone know how much she was getting paid? What is the going rate for a MVC women's basketball coach? If the Athletics Department isn't impressed with her work as a coach it may be time to go their separate ways. I still think she's going to be coming back. If you follow her on twitter she's retweeting the women's basketball twitter account, so I highly doubt she was let go.
If she stays the AD is indicating that winning is not a priority for this program. As a reference Bowling Green fired their coach yesterday after 6 years and a record of 82-89.
There is a clear effort by Mark to get women coaches and I don't think he has ever fired one which may make the decision much more difficult. He let Keith go to get a women and let the male softball coach go and replaced him with a women. He replaced the male swim coach with a women. Other then women's soccer I don't think there is a male coaching any women's team.
I certainly don't have any problem with women coaches, just saying that if she goes he will replace her with another female.
Quote from: vu72 on March 09, 2018, 02:46:50 PM
There is a clear effort by Mark to get women coaches and I don't think he has ever fired one which may make the decision much more difficult. He let Keith go to get a women and let the male softball coach go and replaced him with a women. He replaced the male swim coach with a women. Other then women's soccer I don't think there is a male coaching any women's team.
I certainly don't have any problem with women coaches, just saying that if she goes he will replace her with another female.
Timing is everything, Miami O women's program was right down with ours. They replaced their coach after last season with Megan Duffy ,the former ND player, an assistant at Michigan. Miami was the #4 seed in the MAC tourney and won 21 games. Perhaps their are similar possibilities out there.
Winning either is or isn't a priority.
89-40? And this program is supposed to be improving? Seriously? They lost to Drake, not UConn.
Quote from: VU2014 on March 09, 2018, 01:43:33 PMIf you follow her on twitter she's retweeting the women's basketball twitter account, so I highly doubt she was let go.
NOT YET. If you still have a job you root for the success of the team you are in charge of whether you are on medical leave or not.
I don't remember if MLB gave any indications of whether he planned to let Carlson go just before it happened.
Please don't bring up Ostend and those negative waves man.
Quote from: usc4valpo on March 09, 2018, 07:10:04 PM
89-40? And this program is supposed to be improving? Seriously? They lost to Drake, not UConn.
I'm pretty sure it was the worst loss of the year. They lost to Purdue by 46 and had lost to Drake earlier by 36 and 32. Obviously zero improvement.
Sure we are young but........SO IS DRAKE!! They started 2 Sophomores, 2 Juniors and a Freshman. They have 1 Senior on the team who scored a whopping 2 points! Wow! Our 2 Seniors scored 25% of our points and their Senior scored 2% of theirs. :(
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on March 07, 2018, 08:18:19 AM
Should worry more about the stain of her record rather than the stain of being fired if that's the plan.
Shame, she's got the whole thing down except for the actual coaching. She's a pretty good recruiter, good ambassador for the university. Players seems to like her. She just flat out cannot coach. She'd actualy be a pretty good assistant.
This post captures it perfectly.
89-40 is embarrassing. Did the team find out that Dorow was getting fired before the game or something??? ??? Also was the Drake coaches trying to run up the score or something? Or was it the case of they're bench players beating up out starters? That is a horrendous point differential.
Quote from: VU2014 on March 10, 2018, 06:16:46 PM
89-40 is embarrassing. Did the team find out that Dorow was getting fired before the game or something??? ??? Also was the Drake coaches trying to run up the score or something? Or was it the case of they're bench players beating up out starters? That is a horrendous point differential.
Their starters scored 45 and their bench scored 44.