Marist was soundly beaten by Columbia today. The Lions are probably the best team in the Ivy this season. Marist beat Georgetown which beat Campbell at Barker Lane. That's kind of scary. Marist beat Stetson by 3 TDs although Stetson was in the game for most of 3 quarters. I'm not a big believer in the "well we hung with them for so many quarters" angle. They beat Stetson by 3 TDs in my view.
I'd guess a closer game than the recent few games vs. Marist and, maybe with a couple of significant bounces Valpo's way, a victory for the Crusaders.
Heavy load on Jimmy S's thigh. If it doesn't recover, Valpo will need to win in another fashion.
On a non Marist note: Dayton was looking like a potential victim until today when they beat Drake. Morehead State? Butler? May come down to those two for a win or two....maybe.
You beat me to it 24 (Damn) :(. I've pasted my too-late post below. Suggest you go and change your post Icon to Game Thread. just to make it pretty ;)
Anyway....
OK, what happened happened. Chalk up another loss to a "scholarship" program, although I can't understand how they lost to G'Town. Hopefully Jimmy's quad will heal in time for our next test.
We have Marist ahead of us.
So far...
Marist 38- Stetson 17
Marist 37 - JU 44
Marist 31 - Davidson 9
This week they played Columbia and lost 41-17. We have a tunnel into Columbia (Former VU LB coach Justin Stovall) and we should get a really accurate reading about Marist strengths and weaknesses as a result. Columbia is undefeated (WHAT?????) at 4-0 and have beaten Wagner, G'Town, Princeton and Marist. Hopefully Justin will give us lots of good intelligence on Marist.
I'll ask 04 to delete my original slow post and this'll be the one for Marist.
Changed the title and icon. Thanks VULB
Participation grids are fun
QB #9 Jimmy Seewald SO. (6/6) #14 Chris Duncan RSFR. (0/6) #4 Joe Mullen RSSO. (0/1)
RB #10 Jarrett Morgan SR. (4/4) #44 Kyle Cartales SO. (2/6) #32 Cody Boxrucker FR. (0/5) #21 Elias Earley RSSO. (0/6)
FB #40 Brannen Martin RSFR. (0/5)
WR #1 Jean Rene JR. (4/4) #26 Donny Navarro FR. (2/6) #23 Bailey Gessinger SO. (0/6)
WR #30 Frank Catrine SR. (6/6) #2 Griffin Norberg JR. (0/6) #82 Deuce Larose FR. (0/4)
WR #3 Parker Fox RSSO. (6/6) #12 JD Koehler RSSO. (0/6)
TE #84 Mason Sutter JR. (6/6) #87 Martin Petruf SO. (0/6) #16 Ryan Clarke SR. (0/6)
LT #77 Terrence Roberts RSSO. (4/4) #76 Alex Cotton RSSO. (2/4)
LG #67 Eric Rentschler JR. (6/6) #72 Solomon Kamara RSFR. (0/4)
C #65 Jack Jarnigan RSSO. (4/4) #70 Brady Sullivan RSSO. (1/4)
RG #73 Tom Schofield JR. (6/6) #66 Sam Vas FR. (0/5)
RT #60 Andrew Lundberg RSSO. (5/5) #75 Shannon Taliaferro JR. (1/6) #71 Bryce Biggs RSFR. (0/2)
NT #93 James Reed SO. (2/2) #92 Drew Gedrys FR. (3/6) #56 Tristan De La Rosa (1/4)
DT #99 Jakob Trumpower RSSO. (6/6) #97 Jeremiah Olojo FR. (0/4) #62 Nathan Orlandini FR. (0/4)
DE #34 Jay Slone RSSR. (5/6) #54 Jesse Studyvin JR. (1/2) #91 Jordan Goebel RSFR. (0/6) #96 Cam Germain FR. (0/2)
OLB #18 Mike Wheeler JR. (6/6) #33 Gowan Baldwin JR. (0/6) #35 Gavin Twigg FR. (0/5)
ILB #24 Drew Snouffer JR. (6/6) #6 Logan Pfizenmayer FR. (0/5)
ILB #49 Nick Turner JR. (6/6) #47 Matthew Messler RSSO. (0/6) #43 John Regan SR. (0/2)
OLB #36 Austin Petrie SO. (3/5) #37 Laddie Skarecky FR. (3/6) #38 Joey Poloskey FR. (0/6)
CB #5 Jalin Leandre JR. (6/6) #41 Henry Hebda FR. (0/4) #45 David Hebda FR. (0/2)
FS #28 Josmar Diaz-Martinez JR. (6/6) #20 Jamari Booker SO. (1/6)
SS #4 JJ Nunes RSSR. (5/5) #22 Tramone Duncan FR. (0/4) #7 Brent Brimmage FR. (0/2)
CB #17 Brandon Riley SR. (1/1) #25 Dilan Scargle FR. (3/5) #14 Cam Kelly FR. (2/5)
K #1 Dimitrios Latsois SO. (0/6)
P #88 Alex Ng JR. (0/6)
Redshirts #42 Jake Iery JR. DT
#61 Sean Pierce SO. OL
#95 Murphy Osmond SO. DL
#11 Trey Bilinkski FR. QB
#13 Ryan Markoff FR. QB
#15 Doug Haugh FR. RB
#19 Trey Stablein FR. WR
#33 Conor Beer FR. WR
#85 TJ Weinzimmer FR. WR
#86 Kevin Wright FR. WR
#31 Alex Kluck FR. TE
#80 Brett Bittner FR. TE
#51 Nick Antonacci FR. OL
#79 Thomas Walsh FR. OL
#58 David Mason FR. DL
#90 Isaac Velasco FR. DL
#30 Cole VanSetters FR. LB
#46 Josh Baker FR. LB
#89 Cade Bishop FR. LB
#2 Stacey Jones FR. DB
#19 Bryce Leach FR. DB
#13 Kyle Ulbrich FR. P/K
#99 Carter Puckett FR. LS
DNP #98 Jake Simpson RSJR. K
#50 John Horan RSSO. OL
#69 Alex Helander RSSO. OL
#44 Connor Sperling RSFR. DL
#64 Sean Stephens RSFR. OL
#74 James Zajac RSFR. OL
#78 Ron Williams RSFR. DL
While observing the massacre, I noticed Trey Belinski on the sidelines and didn't notice Joe Mullen on the sidelines. That doesn't mean Mullen wasn't there but I'm not sure the team travels with 4 QBs on flight games. With Seewald potentially nursing an injury for this upcoming week, the #3 QB becomes a bigger issue as he would be the backup if Seewald can't go.
We need to play well in the remaining home games.
Valpo 31
Marist 27
I wonder if the Smits men will be sitting at the game together with appropriate team shirts?
Delaying any predictions until I see if Seewald will suit up or not.
Our opponents last week
Montana (4-2): Win 39-31 at Idaho State
Duquesne (4-1): Win 38-0 vs. Wagner
Trinity International (2-3): Loss 41-44 at Olivet Nazarene
Drake (3-3) : Loss 20-10 vs Dayton
Stetson (1-5): Win 17-13 vs Brown
Campbell (4-2): Win 49-10 vs Valpo
Marist (3-3): Lost 17-41 vs Columbia
Morehead State (2-4): Lost 6-44 vs Butler
Jacksonville (4-1): Won 35-21 vs Davidson
Butler (3-3): Won at Morehead State 44-6
Dayton (2-4): Won 20-10 at Drake
Wrap up, our schedule is definitely tougher this year, The stetson win over Brown is encouraging that we didn't barely beat some 0 for team
Marist 38
Valpo 17
Quote from: VULB#62 on October 10, 2017, 12:43:39 PMDelaying any predictions until I see if Seewald will suit up or not.
I'll be surprised if we find out until right before kickoff. Even if Jimmy's completely healthy or has been ruled out, I think coach will give us a "game time decision" to keep Marist having to prepare for both he and Duncan.
Here's their recap of the Columbia game... Interesting note about their passing TD... is was their QBs first career attempt.
POUGHKEEPSIE, New York – The Marist football team wrapped up non-conference play with a 41-17 loss to Columbia of the Ivy League before 2,396 fans at Tenney Stadium on Saturday afternoon. With the loss, the Red Foxes now stand at 3-3 on the season, while Columbia improved to 4-0.
Key Plays
The Lions scored touchdowns on their first five offensive possessions of the game, and a 39-yard field goal by Oren Milstein gave them points on each of their offensive six drives in the first half. Columbia took a 38-0 lead to the locker room after the first 30 minutes.
Marist got on the board on its first drive of the second half that included a 50-yard rush by red-shirt junior quarterback Mike White and was capped off on a two-yard touchdown pass from red-shirt senior running back Marcellus Calhoun to red-shirt sophomore tight end Jon Kanda to bring the score to 38-7.
An interception by sophomore linebacker Maliek Carr on the ensuing Columbia possession gave the Red Foxes the ball on the Lions' 43-yard line. An eight-play, 27-yard drive ended with a 33-yard field goal by red-shirt junior Joe Giglio to make it 38-10 Columbia.
The Lions then extended their lead on a 39-yard field goal by Oren Milstein with 11:42 left in the game.
A forced fumble by red-shirt junior nose tackle Enmanuel Soriano was recovered by red-shirt junior linebacker Connor Kamczyc at the Columbia 42. A seven-play, 42-yard drive for Marist ensued, and ended with a three-yard touchdown run by sophomore running back Areg Nazarian to make the score 41-17.
Key Stats
Columbia quarterback Anders Hill had five total touchdowns (three passing, two rushing). Hill completed 23 of 33 passes for 250 yards.
The Lions had 23 first downs to the Red Foxes' 12.
Columbia went 12-for-19 on third down while Marist went 4-for-14. The Lions entered the game ranked in the top 10 of the FCS in third-down percentage both offensively (eighth) and defensively (seventh).
The Lions ran 79 plays for 491 yards, and the Red Foxes ran 59 plays for 240 yards total.
Marist had 148 rushing yards on the day to Columbia's 141. White led the Red Foxes with 69 yards on the ground.
Game Notes
This is the first time Marist has hosted an Ivy League opponent in program history, and the third time the Red Foxes have faced Columbia. The Lions lead the all-time series, 3-0.
Calhoun's touchdown pass was on his first career pass attempt.
Kanda's touchdown catch was his second career score.
White's 50-yard run was the Red Foxes' longest of the season, and tied Marist's longest play from scrimmage this year.
Quote of the Day
"Early on, they out-executed us on both sides of the football. At halftime, we talked about continuing to play and finishing the game the right way, and I thought we did that," – head coach Jim Parady.
What's Next
The Red Foxes return to action and Pioneer Football League play when they travel to Indiana for a match-up with Valparaiso on Saturday, Oct. 14. Kickoff is scheduled for 2 p.m.
Quote from: talksalot on October 11, 2017, 09:56:45 AM
Here's their recap of the Columbia game... Interesting note about their passing TD... is was their QBs first career attempt.
Actually, White is their QB and Calhoun is their running back. Calhoun threw the TD pass off a HB option pass for 2 yards. Just one more thing to prepare for.
Quote from: VULB#62 on October 11, 2017, 10:34:23 AMQuote from: talksalot on October 11, 2017, 09:56:45 AMHere's their recap of the Columbia game... Interesting note about their passing TD... is was their QBs first career attempt.
Actually, White is their QB and Calhoun is their running back. Calhoun threw the TD pass off a HB option pass for 2 yards. Just one more thing to prepare for.
Mike White was also an All PFL 2nd team selection at QB last year. He can throw and run. He is neither new nor an unknown entity.
:( I am still waiting for the team I saw give Montana a run for its money back on September 2 to show up in a PFL game. Montana is currently 4-2 overall and 2-1 in the Big Sky. Their only losses: They got blown out by University of Washington (now ranked #5 in the nation) and barely lost to fellow Big Sky leader Eastern Washington 48-41.
:( I am still waiting for the team that lost to Duquesne by 5 points the following weekend and had a chance to win it in the last 2 minutes to show up in a PFL game. Duquesne is 4-1 with its only loss to current #7 FCS, South Dakota State, (51-13). They drubbed fellow NEC scholarship school Wagner College 38-0 last week and are tied for the NEC standings lead.
I added this as an afterthought:
??? We beat a pretty bad Stetson outfit and almost let them snatch victory from us. But, in retrospect, are they THAT bad. They beat a pretty good Brown team last weekend. Brown is 2-2. Their two wins are against scholarship schools - Bryant and URI. Their other loss, besides Stetson, was to Ivy perrennial power Harvard.
Quote from: VULB#62 on October 11, 2017, 11:52:23 AM:( I am still waiting for the team I saw give Montana a run for its money back on September 2 to show up in a PFL game. Montana is currently 4-2 overall and 2-1 in the Big Sky. Their only losses: They got blown out by University of Washington (now ranked #5 in the nation) and barely lost to fellow Big Sky leader Eastern Washington 48-41. :( I am still waiting for the team that lost to Duquesne by 5 points the following weekend and had a chance to win it in the last 2 minutes to show up in a PFL game. Duquesne is 4-1 with its only loss to current #7 FCS, South Dakota State, (51-13). They drubbed fellow NEC scholarship school Wagner College 38-0 last week and are tied for the NEC standings lead. I added this as an afterthought: ??? We beat a pretty bad Stetson outfit and almost let them snatch victory from us. But, in retrospect, are they THAT bad. They beat a pretty good Brown team last weekend. Brown is 2-2. Their two wins are against scholarship schools - Bryant and URI. Their other loss, besides Stetson, was to Ivy perrennial power Harvard.
Stetson beat Brown last year as well and then lost to Valpo when a kick went off the crossbar. The real question is...to me at least...is Valpo getting any better?
I am assuming you meant "as the season progresses." I was kinda sorta getting to the same question in a more round about way ;)
Quote from: JD24 on October 11, 2017, 02:05:57 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on October 11, 2017, 11:52:23 AM:( I am still waiting for the team I saw give Montana a run for its money back on September 2 to show up in a PFL game. Montana is currently 4-2 overall and 2-1 in the Big Sky. Their only losses: They got blown out by University of Washington (now ranked #5 in the nation) and barely lost to fellow Big Sky leader Eastern Washington 48-41. :( I am still waiting for the team that lost to Duquesne by 5 points the following weekend and had a chance to win it in the last 2 minutes to show up in a PFL game. Duquesne is 4-1 with its only loss to current #7 FCS, South Dakota State, (51-13). They drubbed fellow NEC scholarship school Wagner College 38-0 last week and are tied for the NEC standings lead. I added this as an afterthought: ??? We beat a pretty bad Stetson outfit and almost let them snatch victory from us. But, in retrospect, are they THAT bad. They beat a pretty good Brown team last weekend. Brown is 2-2. Their two wins are against scholarship schools - Bryant and URI. Their other loss, besides Stetson, was to Ivy perrennial power Harvard.
Stetson beat Brown last year as well and then lost to Valpo when a kick went off the crossbar. The real question is...to me at least...is Valpo getting any better?
After the first three games I would have said "absolutely!" We have regressed during the last half of the Drake game, I'd call Homecoming a decent performance and certainly a regression v. Campbell. My feeling is that it is more of what we have seen in the last couple of years where our lack of depth starts to show as injuries to key guys happen. We are now playing some freshman which is where we have been for several years. hopefully we get some guys back and march forward again.
Quote from: VULB#62 on October 11, 2017, 03:58:57 PMI am assuming you meant "as the season progresses." I was kinda sorta getting to the same question in a more round about way ;)
I'm more talking about season to season. I'm not sure a couple of closer than expected results at the beginning of a season means much when the in league performance appears to be equal to what we saw last season.
This is a must win for Valpo against Marist to get to the 5 win goal that I predicted and that I expect. In year 4 of a rebuild, 5 wins is reasonable to ask. Cecchini is 11-28 in his fourth year at Valpo. It's significant better than Osteen, but it is still 11-28 which IMO does not meet expectations.
From the MARIST game notes...
Team Rankings (out of 123 teams)
Total Offense: 88th Rushing Offense: 101st Passing Offense: 50th
Total Defense: 44th Rushing Defense: 38th Passing Defense: 68th
- Marist ranks T-11th in defensive touchdowns, T-15th in fumbles recovered,
T-21st in turnovers forced, and 22nd in punt return defense.
Individual Rankings
- Mekhai Johnson is ninth in the FCS in kickoff return average (27.9), including
one of the 21 kickoff returns for a touchdown in the FCS this season.
- Mike White is 19th in the FCS in completions per game (20.5).
PFL Superlatives
- Marist leads the PFL in kickoff return average (21.4 yards per return), and Mekhai
Johnson lead the PFL in kickoff return average (27.9 yards).
- Marist has two of the league's top four in receptions (Juston Christian, 2nd,
6.2; Lawrence Dickens, 4th, 5.0).
Top Trends
- Marist is 4-1 in games decided by three points or less since the start of 2014.
- Marist has scored 19 touchdowns this season. Six Red Foxes have scored
their first collegiate touchdown in the season's first five games (WR Isaiah Watson,
LB Ruben Avalos III, RB Areg Nazarian, WR David Shannon III, RB/KR
Mekhai Johnson, S Jeremiah Gholston).
- Mike White has thrown seven touchdown passes this season to six receivers
(WR Anthony Olivencia (two), WR Isaiah Watson, WR David Shannon III,
RB Mekhai Johnson, WR Juston Christian, and WR Lawrence Dickens).
- Marist has had nine passing plays of 25 or more yards this season. Six have
been from Mike White to Juston Christian (50, 42, 34, 30, 29, 26).
- Marist has been outscored 59-7 in the first quarter this season, and 56-43 in
the second quarter. In the second half, the Red Foxes have outscored their opponents
34-19 in the third quarter and 59-34 in the fourth quarter.
- In its three wins, Marist is +5 in turnover ratio (7 by opponents, 2 for Marist). In
its three losses, Marist's turnover ratio is -4 (9 for Marist, 5 by opponents).
Did You Know?
- Marist is playing eight games before its bye week this season, its highest total
since 2011, when the Red Foxes played 11 straight weeks without a bye.
- Marist's home game against Columbia on Oct. 7 marked the first time the Red
Foxes hosted an Ivy League opponent in program history.
- Marist overcame a 14-point deficit in its 38-17 win over Stetson on Sept. 9. It
was the largest deficit the Red Foxes overcame in a victory since rebounding
from a 14-0 deficit at Morehead State for a 24-14 win on Oct. 24, 2009.
Program History
- This season marks its 53rd as a program, 40th as a varsity program, 25th in
Division I, and ninth in the Pioneer Football League
AND THE NEXT PAGE...
The Last Time A Marist Team
Shut out an opponent 27-0 W vs. Stetson 10/26/13
Was shut out by an opponent 17-0 L at Bucknell 9/6/15
Ended the game in a tie 12-12 T at C.W. Post 9/26/92
Scored at least 40 points 45-38 W at Stetson 11/5/16
Scored at least 50 points 55-28 W at Campbell 11/9/13
Scored at least 60 points 60-0 W vs. Canisius 11/7/98
Had an opponent score 40 points 41-17 L vs. Columbia 10/7/17
Had an opponent score 50 points 59-31 L vs. Dayton 11/12/16
Recorded a safety 20-16 L vs. Jacksonville 9/26/15
Had an opponent record a safety 35-33 L at San Diego 10/12/13
Had zero penalties in a game 28-6 L vs. Lafayette 9/6/08
Was penalized 100-plus yards 108 yards-31-9 W at Davidson 9/30/17
Had an opponent who was penalized 100-plus yards 120 yards-59-31 L vs. Dayton 11/12/16
Had 5-plus touchdowns 5-44-37 L vs. Jacksonville 9/23/17
Allowed 5-plus touchdowns 5-41-17 L vs. Columbia 10/7/17
Had 500 yards total offense 515-45-38 W at Stetson 11/5/16
Allowed 500 yards total offense 516-44-37 L vs. Jacksonville 9/23/17
Allowed no completions 48-19 L vs. Bucknell 9/30/06
Won in the final minute/overtime 45-38 W at Stetson 11/5/16
Lost in the final minute/overtime 20-17 L vs. Morehead State 11/21/15
Won in overtime 44-41 W (OT) at Morehead State 10/15/16
Lost in overtime 34-27 L (OT) at Drake 10/20/12
Rushed for 300 yards 349-44-7 W at Valparaiso 10/27/12
Had two 100-yard receivers in the same game Juston Christian (124), Lawrence Dickens (123) vs. JU 9/23/17
Had two 100-yard rushers in the same game Max Jacques (128), Wale Onakoya (110) at Valparaiso 10/27/12
Did not allow a touchdown 27-0 W vs. Stetson 10/26/13
Played a game with snow on the ground 23-13 L vs. Drake 10/29/11
The Last Time A Marist Player
Returned a punt for touchdown 91 yards-Zach Adler-27-7 L vs. Georgetown 9/13/14
Returned a kickoff for touchdown 90 yards-Mekhai Johnson-49-14 W vs. Stetson 11/7/15
Returned an interception for touchdown 59 yards-Jeremiah Gholston-31-9 W at Davidson 9/30/17
Returned a fumble for touchdown 20 yards-Ruben Avalos III-38-17 W vs. Stetson 9/9/17
Returned opponent's PAT attempt for two points Paul Rabito-30-22 W at Saint Francis (Pa.) 9/13/08
Had 30 rushing attempts 31-O'Neil Anderson-17-16 L at Bucknell 9/26/09
Had 200 yards rushing 222 yards-Bo Ehikioya-24-19 W vs. Davidson 11/15/08
Had 300 yards rushing 316 yards-J.J. Allen-41-6 W vs. St. Francis (Pa.) 10/31/98
Had at least three rushing touchdowns 3-Marcellus Calhoun-28-21 L at Dayton 11/14/15
Had 30 completions 32-Mike White-38-17 W vs. Stetson 9/9/17
Had 300 yards passing 315-Mike White-44-37 L vs. Jacksonville 9/23/17
Had 400 yards passing 403-Chuckie Looney-34-21 W vs. Davidson 9/22/12
Had four passing touchdowns 4-Mike White-44-37 L vs. Jacksonville 9/23/17
Had 40 passing attempts 40-Mike White-31-9 W at Davidson 9/30/17
Had 150 yards receiving 217-Juston Christian-44-41 W (OT) at Morehead State 10/15/16
Had 10 receptions 11-Juston Christian-38-17 W vs. Stetson 9/9/17
Caught three touchdowns 3-Juston Christian-44-41 W (OT) at Morehead State 10/15/16
Had a 40-yard field goal 41-Mike Maccarone-59-31 L vs. Dayton 11/12/16
Had a two-point conversion (passing) Chuckie Looney to Chris Ortner-28-25 L vs. Sacred Heart 9/3/10
Had a two-point conversion (rushing) Marcellus Calhoun-30-21 W at Butler 10/8/16
Had at least five extra points 5-Joe Giglio-38-17 W vs. Stetson 9/9/17
Had 10-plus punts 10-Anthony Olivencia-14-12 W at Georgetown 9/16/17
Had three interceptions 3-Ike Ibeh-14-7 W vs. Siena 11/17/01
Had three sacks 3-Alex Spiess-49-14 W vs. Stetson 11/7/15
Had 15 tackles in a game 15-Wesley Beans-31-6 L at Sacred Heart 9/17/16
Returned two INTs for TDs in the same game Jaquan Bryant (11 and 15 yards)-31-12 W at Sacred Heart 9/5/09
Game day at beautiful Brown Field baby!
Quote from: usc4valpo on October 14, 2017, 08:47:56 AM
Game day at beautiful Brown Field baby!
Not so sure about beautiful. Forecast calls for 100% rain, but warm for October.
Major break for Valpo as Marist's starting QB, Mike White, did not start. Apparently injured vs. Columbia.
If Valpo can continue on and win this one they'd have an excellent chance to get two wins in a row with a bye and then Morehead State which is a very winnable game.
With another lightning delay here's some info to fill the time:
Butler over JU 37-22 (Bulldogs out rushed the Dolphins by a net 2 yards).
Campbell beat Dayton @ Dayton 17-7
Stetson beat Davidson 28-17
Morehead takes on USD on the left coast 2PM PST (4CST)
The map looks like about another 15 and it looks clear for a while. That would be about 5 Central.
Looks good at 5:14
https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/valparaiso-in/46383/weather-radar/332943
Rule is 30mins past last lightning strike.
I assume Marist has a flight to catch. How does that figure into things?
This thunderstorm is something else! I wonder what these teams do between with such a long wait. It will be interesting when this game is completed and how many fans with wait this out.
30 mins after lightning? That sounds like the rule at the local pool at Ankeny.
I think USC and Utah will finish their game before this one!
Damn. Marist blocked our FG with 8 secs left in the half. 14-3 at the half. After the break we forced a punt and drove right down to the Marist 2 😖
We have 2 picks to 1 for Marist. We have 276 total yards to 145 for Marist. White out of the line up makes a BIG difference.
Quote from: usc4valpo on October 14, 2017, 05:41:37 PM30 mins after lightning? That sounds like the rule at the local pool at Ankeny. I think USC and Utah will finish their game before this one!
That is the collegiate rule no matter the level. It may also be the NFL rule.
I am sure the lights are already on but this game will finish in the dark AFTER the USD game in San Diego.
OH, BTW, THE WOMENS SOCCER TEAM KICKS OFF AT 8PM TOO.
The way this game is going, I wish Valpo would always play in these conditions!
I don't think the game is being streamed (someone tell me if I'm wrong) but the ESPN ticker said we were up 42-3? Is that right? Is this all because their quarterback is out? What on earth is happening at Brown Field?
HOLY SMOKES!! (or may be Holy Lightning!) Killing Marist, now 49-9. We have scored 49 versus Campbell but we have never beaten a PFL team this bad. :cheers:
Our stars,er, clouds were aligned. Not seeing the game, I can only guess that we did few things wrong and they could not do anything right. I noticed on the game tracker that Mike White played at the end and his fumble allowed Stargle to recover and score the final TD.
72, we must indeed find out if this 49-15 win is our biggest PFL winning margin. We certainly have been on the losing side of a few PFL winning margins.
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Whadya know. Here are our all - time top three PFL winning margins*:
#3 - 1996 vs. Butler 50 - 29 (21)
#2 - 2008 vs. Campbell 47 - 14 (33)
#1 - 2017 vs. Marist 49 - 15 (34)
* at least I'm pretty sure just working on my iPad.
Fascinating how at this level the loss of a key player can completely turn things on their head. Witness how Georgetown beat Campbell this year, Marist beat Georgetown, we killed Marist and Campbell killed us. Figure that out. :crazy:
Here is another Fun Fact: this is the second year in a row that we are 3-4 after 7 games. The last time we were 3-4 after 7 was 2007.
You have to go back to 2000 for 4 wins in 7 games.
Quote from: VULB#62 on October 14, 2017, 08:41:36 PMHere is another Fun Fact: this is the second year in a row that we are 3-4 after 7 games. The last time we were 3-4 after 7 was 2007. You have to go back to 2000 for 4 wins in 7 games.
With, in my opinion, a great chance to go 4-4 after a win vs. MSU.
Wound up with 5 picks in this game. Made both Marist QBs look ineffective.
Who were those guys in brown jersies in the Valpo secondary anyway?
Quote from: VULB#62 on October 14, 2017, 09:10:14 PMWound up with 5 picks in this game. Made both Marist QBs look ineffective. Who were those guys in brown jersies in the Valpo secondary anyway?
5 picks and a fumble recovery for a TD. Great job by the secondary.
Quote from: VULB#62 on October 14, 2017, 07:41:41 PMwe must indeed find out if this 49-15 win is our biggest PFL winning margin. We certainly have been on the losing side of a few PFL winning margins. **************************** Whadya know. Here are our all - time top three PFL winning margins*: #3 - 1996 vs. Butler 50 - 29 (21) #2 - 2008 vs. Campbell 47 - 14 (33) #1 - 2017 vs. Marist 49 - 15 (34) * at least I'm pretty sure just working on my iPad.
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@valpoufootball (https://twitter.com/valpoufootball)'s 34-point margin of victory today is the program's largest in a league game since Nov. 6, 1971, a 48-12 win over Butler.
someone asked about the Marist travel arrangements...
In the pressbox we were talking about their plans, and recognizing that if the game was being affected by the storm(s), so was O'Hare. They are a Jet-Blue team and like to fly out of JFK in New York. Game ended at 7:10pm (6-hours and 6-minutes after kickoff)...and they had a 8:40pm flight out of O'Hare... and they did not have Hotel Reservations for their travel party of 55 players, plus coaches and staff...I don't know if Jet Blue held the flight for them...or if the weather was the real culprit.
Jet Blue #1106 Departure SCHEDULED Departure 8:40 PM Actual Departure 12:14 AM Scheduled Arrival 11:55 PM Actual Arrival 3:37 AM...Then it's 90 miles (1:45 drive) up to Poughkeepsie.
Hats off to the Valpo football parents and staff for their planning. Coach Cecchini's post-game show talked about their planning... and that buffet during the second lightning delay. what a spread !!
Speaking of Buffets... sorry about the Soccer match (resched for Sunday) and the big reunion planned. So, they had a big buffet spread in the McGill room in the ARC for the soccer team and their special alumni guests. It was scheduled for between the Football game and the Soccer game. Thanks for making the offer to the folks in the football pressbox to come and eat !! The Chocolate Chip Cannoli's were phenomenal !!
Speaking of staff and stuff... Brown Field's drainage system is incredible. After all that rain the track was flooded and the field had serious ponding... within 5 minutes it was gone. I don't know though... I remember the days where a rain like that would have made for a fun "Mud Bowl"; but without the lights, that game would have been postponed about 3:00pm.
Quote from: JD24 on October 14, 2017, 11:27:14 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on October 14, 2017, 07:41:41 PMwe must indeed find out if this 49-15 win is our biggest PFL winning margin. We certainly have been on the losing side of a few PFL winning margins. **************************** Whadya know. Here are our all - time top three PFL winning margins*: #3 - 1996 vs. Butler 50 - 29 (21) #2 - 2008 vs. Campbell 47 - 14 (33) #1 - 2017 vs. Marist 49 - 15 (34) * at least I'm pretty sure just working on my iPad.
Brandon Vickrey @BrandonVickrey .@valpoufootball (https://twitter.com/valpoufootball)'s 34-point margin of victory today is the program's largest in a league game since Nov. 6, 1971, a 48-12 win over Butler.
Yep, saw that. He also wrote it in the game recap. That was when Valpo was in the Indiana Collegiate Conference along with DePauw, Evansville, Butler and St. Josephs. By then (1968) Ball State and Indiana State had left the ICC. In those days, there weren't all the NCAA and NAIA divisions that we have today. Basically it was membership in either the university division or the college division. In the college division all-american was designated "Little All-American."
I have a baseless observation in search of confirmation. Marist QB Mike White, who was a preseason team pick or somthing, I believe, sat the whole first half. At first there was speculation that he was hurt, but he played virtually the entire second half. Could he have been benched for disciplinary reasons?
Didn't matter much as he threw 3 picks when he was on the field.
UPDATE FROM THE PFL BOARD:
49-9 as one catholic school to another stop the beating. We are done.
14 hours ago fox94 said:
49-9 as one catholic school to another stop the beating. We are done.
Valpo is Lutheran.
How can not having your QB result in that kind of performance? Melted down a bit too. Two early unsportsmanlike penalties.
13 hours ago QuotePost Options Post by maristdb89 on 13 hours ago
The decision to put White into the game is horrible. The kid is injured. This game shows how terrible the Marist coaching staff is, particularly against a 4th year coach that is turning around the Valpo program.
And the Foxes were picked to be 3rd in the PFL. What a mess.
13 hours ago maristdb89 said:
The decision to put White into the game is horrible. The kid is injured. This game shows how terrible the Marist coaching staff is, particularly against a 4th year coach that is turning around the Valpo program.
And the Foxes were picked to be 3rd in the PFL. What a mess.
Didn't understand White coming in at all. If he was healthy enough to play at all he should have started. Marist had at least 4 unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. That's terrible. I hope the coaching staff starts and ends any comments on the game with "that one is on me and the staff".
13 hours ago fox94 likes this QuotePost Options Post by maristdb89 on 13 hours ago
No true confirmation, but White has been injured since last season. The kid is a warrior so when asked, "Can you go?", he isn't going to say "No". But he should have never been an option. That is horrible coaching. The coach of Valpo, Cecchini in his fourth year has just shown how inept the Marist staff of 25 years is.
13 hours ago via mobile QuotePost Options Post by pointbeach on 13 hours ago
Agreed White is banged up and couldn't practice all week.There was no way he should of been put in that position. So you build up your 2nd string QB that he's the man against Valpo. 2nd half comes and you yank him for a injured player who couldnt practice. Defense had no pressure on the Valpo QB.Looks like this 3 man front just cant get it done the last few games, maybe time to switch that to a 4 man front.Secondary getting burned for long TDs at least 2 /3 times a game. Poor play selection in the Red Zone . To many dumb penalties.Staff needs to look at themselves in the mirror.
White was injured vs Columbia after taking a hit to his throwing elbow, and was doubtful. We were told he probably would only play if Hallenback was injured. He traveled and dressed. I'm guessing they felt they could win without him, and decided to not risk playing their standout QB at less than 100%. However, it was clear at 21-3 they needed a spark and I'd assume White convinced the coaches he could play. As it turned out, White turned it over himself 4 times in the second half, so it didn't matter.
I went to the official Marist Football forum and there were a total of 6 posts about the game. SIX! The Marist fans post more on the PFL site, if you can believe that.
There are some calls for firing their staff because they are stuck in mediocrity. They should try years of ineptitude like Valpo experienced prior to Cecchini coming on board. I know many of us are impatient, but outsiders are noticing our steady rebuilding and throwing some respect our way.
Post game thoughts
1. This is first time i have thought Jimmy could be NFL good and I don't say that lightly, prototypical size, Will be multiple all-conference type guy
2. DB's were much improved however the Hallenbeck kid was not very good and the starter White came in a little to late, still gave up the big throw.
3. Rain delay killed Marist and Valpo jumped them
Overall great win, Our offense when clicking is a top in conference, defense just has to be passable to get some wins, Also Norberg in the slot was an excellent matchup we used to get our run game going, much better blocker helped get edge.
Now lets enjoy a bye week, instead of my depth chart I can do positional break downs for the season so far if people would like to keep the football talk alive, just let me know
62 - I cannot see anyone this board as impatient for results. I still believe a 5 win season is a reasonable goal in year 4 of the program. If this does not get accomplished, I still think there is much work to be done. I am certainly not saying that Cecchini should be fired if 5 wins cannot be reached, but a 5 win season is still a 5-6 season. The good news is after this win, this goal can be and should be reached.
Right now I think a win vs. Morehead St should be expected. After that, it's going to be far more difficult and my expectation is we'll have to be happy with beating Morehead St.
Of course key injuries could change my thoughts.
I think a Butler win is not out of the question
Excuse me, but I have a question about our place in the media hierarchy in NW Indiana. Sure, local HSs are important to the region, but so is its only D-I university.
I went to the the NWITimes site and to my chagrin noticed that the headline for our win against Marist was just the intro for a watered down coverage of other college football results. Huh?
VU D-I FB is finally relevant in this region to a greater degree than in the last decade. The best players not scooped by Purdue or UND need to know about Valpo. I used to think that Paul Oren was our beat writer. But he was out covering HS VB games. As a result, we got minimal exposure. Give me a freaken break. This game had all kinds of story lines: lightning delays, VU scoring, never having beaten Marist, etc. And we get two small paragraphs on Sunday.
Quote from: VULB#62 on October 15, 2017, 10:00:50 PM
Excuse me, but I have a question about our place in the media hierarchy in NW Indiana. Sure, local HSs are important to the region, but so is its only D-I university.
I went to the the NWITimes site and to my chagrin noticed that the headline for our win against Marist was just the intro for a watered down coverage of other college football results. Huh?
VU D-I FB is finally relevant in this region to a greater degree than in the last decade. The best players not scooped by Purdue or UND need to know about Valpo. I used to think that Paul Oren was our beat writer. But he was out covering HS VB games. As a result, we got minimal exposure. Give me a freaken break. This game had all kinds of story lines: lightning delays, VU scoring, never having beaten Marist, etc. And we get two small paragraphs on Sunday.
My guess is that the NWITimes readers don't normally read the paper(or online version) for college football - hence the HS coverage. I tend to agree that if any print media should be covering VU football, it should be the NWITimes.
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