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Title: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: IndyValpo on March 11, 2018, 12:51:58 PM
http://www.und.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/beth_cunningham_799117.html

Here is mine. Not sure she would leave ND for us though
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: vu72 on March 11, 2018, 01:21:45 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on March 11, 2018, 12:51:58 PM
http://www.und.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/beth_cunningham_799117.html

Here is mine. Not sure she would leave ND for us though

Not a chance. She left the VCU head coach position to return to Notre Dame as an assistant.  Either she is waiting to take over for McGraw or she is making way more money then we could pay her.  either way, it won't happen.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: VU2014 on March 11, 2018, 01:59:48 PM
I honestly couldn't tell you any specific names but I have a "wish-list" of characteristics I'd like to see:
-ties to the Region
-Potential to be a strong recruiter
-Cost-effective option. I'm not for the idea of ponying up big $ to hire someone on their initial contract. If the coach proves they can succeed then reward them in their second contract/extension.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: VULB#62 on March 11, 2018, 02:35:48 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 11, 2018, 01:59:48 PM
I honestly couldn't tell you any specific names but I have "wish-list" of characteristics I'd like to see:
-ties to the Region [T-5] *
-Potential to be a strong recruiter [2]
-Cost-effective option. I'm not for the idea of ponying up big $ to hire someone on their initial contract. If the coach proves they can succeed then reward them in their second contract/extension. [T-5]

Adding [with my priorities in brackets]...

- Winning D-I experience as a low mid-major level D-I HC or a Top D-I Mid-Major assistant [1]
- Demonstrated developmental skills [T-3]
- Demonstrated in-game management skills [T-3]
- Ability to attract good assistants [7]

* While I see the positive aspect of NW Indiana ties, Valpo WBB, like MBB, competes for talent in the region against ND, Purdue and maybe to a lesser extent IU.  The next coach needs to have D-I feelers and contacts out in what MLB was quoted as saying "a wider net" to make us MVC-competitive.

Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: IndyValpo on March 11, 2018, 03:11:56 PM
Quote from: vu72 on March 11, 2018, 01:21:45 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on March 11, 2018, 12:51:58 PM
http://www.und.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/beth_cunningham_799117.html

Here is mine. Not sure she would leave ND for us though

Not a chance. She left the VCU head coach position to return to Notre Dame as an assistant.  Either she is waiting to take over for McGraw or she is making way more money then we could pay her.  either way, it won't happen.

While you are probably correct, there is much more to the VCU story than simply returning to ND.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: Valpo89 on March 11, 2018, 04:26:16 PM
Mark Morefield.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: usc4valpo on March 11, 2018, 05:18:15 PM
Sheryl Swoopes - give her another chance
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: VULB#62 on March 11, 2018, 08:08:00 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on March 11, 2018, 05:18:15 PM
Sheryl Swoopes - give her another chance

No. No. No.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: valpotx on March 11, 2018, 08:21:07 PM
Quote from: Valpo89 on March 11, 2018, 04:26:16 PM
Mark Morefield.

Never in a million years.  I can't tell if you are being sarcastic, but he is not ever going to be an option at Valpo.  He can stay at D-3 Mary-Hardin Baylor.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: VULB#62 on March 11, 2018, 08:52:54 PM
The next coach will not be young. She or he will be expererienced and will bring intangibles to the table that MLB thinks will put us over the top. Our model will be UWGB.  UWGB 's roster has no player from outside the state of Wisconsin. How the heck does he do it?
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: NativeCheesehead on March 12, 2018, 02:57:08 PM
Norman Dale
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: IndyValpo on March 12, 2018, 03:34:08 PM
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on March 12, 2018, 02:57:08 PM
Norman Dale
Only if Shooter is available as an assistant
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: jack on March 13, 2018, 06:38:22 AM
Just my opinion - The biggest problem we've had the last 6 years is the lack of ability to develop young players. This level of play requires a coach that can take these players and their talents, and help to develop them into the best they can be to compete at the D1 level. This staff has seemed to operate on the "plug and play" philosophy, bringing in players and expecting them to continue on with the roles they played in high school. This may work for a D2 program, but you can't have success in D1 with that mentality. It always seems that the teams these past several years have gotten worse fundamentally, and we don't see the progress we should see. I've always felt we have to bring in someone that knows how to work with the bigs, inside. I thought maybe Rees would be that guy. Our inside game has been awful. Our footwork and block out skills have been non-existent for a long time.
If this school is serious about winning, they need to bring someone in that understands how to coach at this level.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: covufan on March 13, 2018, 11:53:31 AM
My  :twocents:

Pick some programs that we want to emulate - Notre Dame, Baylor, Green Bay, Drake, S. Dakota St, among others come to mind.  If we can somehow talk to the head coaches at these places, even if only through email, to get a sense of what is required (training facilities, AD support, Admin support, etc.) to be successful at the Division I level.  Then ask for what skills are necessary from a HC to be successful.  Then inquire if they know of any young assistants that are eager to make their mark at a University such as Valparaiso. 

Reach out to Scott Drew to see if any assistant in the Baylor women's program would be willing to take on VU.  I'd really be looking at the GB assistants, since they are familiar with our program. 

Good luck to ml!
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: valpo64 on March 13, 2018, 12:40:52 PM
I would think that Green Bay coaches, all of them would be a good starting point
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: VULB#62 on March 13, 2018, 01:37:43 PM
UWGB WBB is an incredibly unique situation.  Coach Borseth has been there for two stints bookending 5 years as HWBB coach at the U of Michigan.  He has an 18 year D-I record of 410-158. His assistants, all women, are from WI (2), MN (1) and SD (1).  What makes UWGB distictive is that they usually have a roster made up entirely of kids from Wisconsin.  This year there is a little break with that in that they have two freshmen from out of state (MN and SD).  They are very young (only 2 seniors, one of whom is their top scorer) but still earned a #7 seed in the 2018 NCAA Tourney.

Wisconsin is not reknowned for producing world class basketball players, yet UWGB consistently wins year-in and year-out. So it has got to come down to player development.  Actually, Borseth has two coaches with "player development" as a part of their "expanded" job title.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: Dave_2010 on March 13, 2018, 02:20:17 PM
I'm disappointed the conversation made it this far without the requisite Dana Shaw joke...


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Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: covufan on March 13, 2018, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: Dave_2010 on March 13, 2018, 02:20:17 PM
I'm disappointed the conversation made it this far without the requisite Dana Shaw joke...


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Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: VU2014 on March 14, 2018, 03:54:09 PM
https://twitter.com/PostTribSports/status/974022535623905282

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-womens-basketball-valparaiso-tracey-dorow-st-0313-20180312-story.html
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: justducky on March 14, 2018, 04:49:52 PM
Quote from: covufan on March 13, 2018, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: Dave_2010 on March 13, 2018, 02:20:17 PM
I'm disappointed the conversation made it this far without the requisite Dana Shaw joke...


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Setshot wouldn't like any nepotism conversations, joke or not.
How quickly we forget! It took me a full 40 seconds before I pieced together who Dana Shaw is. Duh!
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: VULB#62 on March 14, 2018, 04:53:11 PM
Quote from: justducky on March 14, 2018, 04:49:52 PM
Quote from: covufan on March 13, 2018, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: Dave_2010 on March 13, 2018, 02:20:17 PM
I'm disappointed the conversation made it this far without the requisite Dana Shaw joke...
Setshot wouldn't like any nepotism conversations, joke or not.
How quickly we forget! It took me a full 40 seconds before I pieced together who Dana Shaw is. Duh!

Do share.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: VULB#62 on March 14, 2018, 05:08:40 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on March 14, 2018, 03:54:09 PM
https://twitter.com/PostTribSports/status/974022535623905282
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-womens-basketball-valparaiso-tracey-dorow-st-0313-20180312-story.html

So..............  what does this tell us about who MLB is REALLY going after?   Which schools is he targeting?  Neither Dave or Kate were head coaches.  Does that mean he's looking at up-and-coming top assistants?  Is he focusing on PRIVATE D-I WBB programs?  What's your guess?
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: vu72 on March 14, 2018, 06:22:07 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 14, 2018, 04:53:11 PM
Quote from: justducky on March 14, 2018, 04:49:52 PM
Quote from: covufan on March 13, 2018, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: Dave_2010 on March 13, 2018, 02:20:17 PM
I'm disappointed the conversation made it this far without the requisite Dana Shaw joke...
Setshot wouldn't like any nepotism conversations, joke or not.
How quickly we forget! It took me a full 40 seconds before I pieced together who Dana Shaw is. Duh!

Do share.


Not sure if you are serious, but I'll take the bait!  Dana Shaw is Homer and Janet's daughter.  She is married to Casey Shaw, former NBA player and current Vanderbilt assistant coach.  Dana was an All-American at Toledo and MAC POY twice. She is also a lawyer and Bryce's agent.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: VULB#62 on March 14, 2018, 09:14:20 PM
I had no idea.  thanks!
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: Dave_2010 on March 15, 2018, 08:43:20 AM
Quote from: vu72 on March 14, 2018, 06:22:07 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 14, 2018, 04:53:11 PM
Quote from: justducky on March 14, 2018, 04:49:52 PM
Quote from: covufan on March 13, 2018, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: Dave_2010 on March 13, 2018, 02:20:17 PM
I'm disappointed the conversation made it this far without the requisite Dana Shaw joke...
Setshot wouldn't like any nepotism conversations, joke or not.
How quickly we forget! It took me a full 40 seconds before I pieced together who Dana Shaw is. Duh!

Do share.


Not sure if you are serious, but I'll take the bait!  Dana Shaw is Homer and Janet's daughter.  She is married to Casey Shaw, former NBA player and current Vanderbilt assistant coach.  Dana was an All-American at Toledo and MAC POY twice. She is also a lawyer and Bryce's agent.

She is also a freshly minted MAC Hall of Famer.


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Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: Valpo89 on March 15, 2018, 09:00:02 AM
Quote from: covufan on March 13, 2018, 02:49:23 PM
Setshot

Any idea if Setshot (aka JJ) is still with us?
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: ml2 on March 15, 2018, 10:10:28 AM
Sadly, setshot is no longer with us. He passed away in September of 2015.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/islandpacket/obituary-preview.aspx?n=bruce-calvin-claxton&pid=175984457&referrer=2377 (http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/islandpacket/obituary-preview.aspx?n=bruce-calvin-claxton&pid=175984457&referrer=2377)

Unfortunately, the full obituary is only available for a fee now.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: Valpo89 on March 15, 2018, 03:48:39 PM
Thanks ML2. I had a a feeling that might be the case. He was quite a character that I only knew from this message board and its predecessors. He liked to stir things up. Never knew his name.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: Just Sayin on March 16, 2018, 09:22:45 AM
QuoteNot sure if you are serious, but I'll take the bait!  Dana Shaw is Homer and Janet's daughter.  She is married to Casey Shaw, former NBA player and current Vanderbilt assistant coach.  Dana was an All-American at Toledo and MAC POY twice. She is also a lawyer and Bryce's agent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8eeTjZ9vRw
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: ml2 on March 16, 2018, 10:38:22 AM
You're welcome Valpo89. If you want to know more you should ask ml next time you see him. They exchanged calls/emails a few times I think. Not sure if they ever met in person. setshot was an alum - class of '57 - and obviously cared a great deal about the University and the basketball program.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: Hoopsfan68 on March 18, 2018, 01:37:19 PM
Tim Moser....recruits like crazy & KNOWS the game!
Colorado State assistant
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: bbtds on March 19, 2018, 09:06:55 AM
Quote from: Hoopsfan68 on March 18, 2018, 01:37:19 PM
Tim Moser....recruits like crazy & KNOWS the game!
Colorado State assistant

Is he related to Porter Moser, the Loyola MBB head coach?
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: FWalum on March 19, 2018, 09:23:54 AM
Quote from: Hoopsfan68 on March 18, 2018, 01:37:19 PMTim Moser

Some very gaudy numbers as a head coach, surprised that he hasn't had another stint as the head man.

Summary of Coaching Experience
2012-Pres. – assistant coach, Colorado State women's basketball
2006-12 – head coach, Alaska Anchorage women's basketball (150-31 record) 82.9% winning percentage
2004-06 – head coach, Otero (Colo.) JC men's basketball (41-18) 69.4%
1998-04 – head coach, Otero (Colo.) JC women's and men's basketball (women's - 137-41, men's – 131-50) 77%    72.4%
1994-98 – assistant coach, Eastern Wyoming men's basketball
1993-94 – assistant coach, Southern Utah men's basketball
Three-time GNAC Coach of the Year (2008-09, 2010-11, 2011-12)
WBCA Division II West Region Coach of the Year (2008-09)
Coached GNAC Player of the Year from 2006-09 and in 2011-12
Coached two Division II All-Americans
Coached three Division II All-America Honorable Mentions
Four-time Region IX Coach of the Year, women's basketball (1998-99, 1999-00, 2000-01, 2003-04)
Four-time Region IX Coach of the Year, men's basketball (1998-99, 1999-00, 2002-03, 2003-04)

Tim Moser enters his sixth season as an assistant coach with the Colorado State women's basketball program in 2017-18
Colorado State has made huge strides since Ryun Williams has become head coach and bringing Moser on his staff.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: Hoopsfan68 on March 20, 2018, 02:15:05 PM
Moser has spent his years at CSU cultivating recruiting ties in the US and overseas and getting that "D1 experience" in preparation for a HC gig.  He is ready and will make some AD look very smart for hiring him.  While coaching D2 in Alaska I believe his record vs D1 schools (at the Great Alaska Shootout) was something like 9-3 beating school like Syracuse and Cincinnati to name a couple.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: covufan on March 21, 2018, 11:23:22 AM
Here is another CSU name: Becky Hammon.  She removed her name from consideration for the CSU Men's HC position.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becky_Hammon

Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: Hoosier22 on March 21, 2018, 01:29:23 PM
I know this is a vote for who we would like the next coach to be but....

I feel if we land a coach that stresses fundamentals (especially on the defensive side of the ball)!
Use the players abilities that you have - there are some athletes that can run the floor on this team
they never pushed the ball. Women's hoops is 75% transition. Play selfless ball (easier said than done) -
there are a few girls on this team that are more worried about their stats than wins. That needs to STOP
immediately.
Darrow and her clone Rees continued to throw out the same lineup day in and day out the last three years or so
with the same result. They never changed anything and expected different results.
Bring in a good coach with a previous winning record (or assistant at a winning D1 school) stressing fundamentals,
they could probably get this team to 4 or 5 games above .500 in a year or two. They have some talent they just
have not had good coaching.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: vu72 on March 21, 2018, 02:31:00 PM
Indiana State just made a very good hire.  Hopefully we can land a similar quality person.

http://gosycamores.com/news/2018/3/20/vicki-hall-named-head-womens-basketball-coach.aspx
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: Hoopsfan68 on March 22, 2018, 02:38:18 AM
Tim Moser fits these expectations!
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: VU2014 on March 23, 2018, 05:04:56 PM
Just saw this:

https://twitter.com/WHoopDirt/status/975533241754144769

https://whoopdirt.com/job/head-womens-basketball-coach-valparaiso-university/

"Description: The Head Women's Basketball Coach will be responsible for managing all aspects of NCAA Division I women's basketball. Responsibilities include but are not limited to, practice and game planning, recruiting, budget management, fundraising, scheduling and management of day to day of the women's basketball team.

Knowledge of NCAA Division I rules pertaining to recruiting, financial aid, and daily team operations.

-Five (5) years of collegiate coaching experience preferred

-Head Coach experience preferred

-Playing experience preferred

-Bachelor's Degree preferred"
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: IndyValpo on April 03, 2018, 11:36:50 AM
Incredibly quiet on this front. Were we waiting on the completion of the tourney to chase someone involved?
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: VU2014 on April 03, 2018, 12:01:06 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on April 03, 2018, 11:36:50 AM
Incredibly quiet on this front. Were we waiting on the completion of the tourney to chase someone involved?

Most schools wait to announce till the news cycle slows down.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: IndyValpo on April 03, 2018, 12:57:21 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 03, 2018, 12:01:06 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on April 03, 2018, 11:36:50 AM
Incredibly quiet on this front. Were we waiting on the completion of the tourney to chase someone involved?

Most schools wait to announce till the news cycle slows down.
Interestingly there were 20 women's vacancies and only 4 are filled while there were 49 men's vacancies and 36 have been filled.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: VU2014 on April 03, 2018, 01:20:19 PM
Tracy Dorow's hiring didn't get announced till April 23, 2012

Here is the thread about the coaching search and her hiring if anyone cares to see what people thought about the hiring back in 2012: http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=780.25
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: vu72 on April 03, 2018, 03:27:35 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 03, 2018, 01:20:19 PM
Tracy Dorow's hiring didn't get announced till April 23, 2012

Here is the thread about the coaching search and her hiring if anyone cares to see what people thought about the hiring back in 2012: http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=780.25

Interesting read and no negative comments on the hire.  Also interesting to see posts from StlVUFan, LaPortAveApostle and Setshot.  We know Setshot has passed but do wonder about the other two.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: VU2014 on April 03, 2018, 06:52:49 PM
Quote from: vu72 on April 03, 2018, 03:27:35 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 03, 2018, 01:20:19 PM
Tracy Dorow's hiring didn't get announced till April 23, 2012

Here is the thread about the coaching search and her hiring if anyone cares to see what people thought about the hiring back in 2012: http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=780.25

Interesting read and no negative comments on the hire.  Also interesting to see posts from StlVUFan, LaPortAveApostle and Setshot.  We know Setshot has passed but do wonder about the other two.


I never knew LaPortAveApostle but StlVUFan is still very active on twitter at @StlVUFan. He's always keeping up with the team. I guess he doesn't get on the forums too often anymore.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: covufan on April 03, 2018, 08:25:00 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 03, 2018, 06:52:49 PM
Quote from: vu72 on April 03, 2018, 03:27:35 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 03, 2018, 01:20:19 PM
Tracy Dorow's hiring didn't get announced till April 23, 2012

Here is the thread about the coaching search and her hiring if anyone cares to see what people thought about the hiring back in 2012: http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=780.25

Interesting read and no negative comments on the hire.  Also interesting to see posts from StlVUFan, LaPortAveApostle and Setshot.  We know Setshot has passed but do wonder about the other two.


I never knew LaPortAveApostle but StlVUFan is still very active on twitter at @StlVUFan. He's always keeping up with the team. I guess he doesn't get on the forums too often anymore.
Yes, StlVUFan is active on twitter - not sure why he hasn't posted on here since last July.

LAA took an absence after his second child was born.  He sometimes still logs on to read the board, but has not posted in three years.
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: valpotx on April 03, 2018, 08:37:21 PM
StlVUFan still posts on here.  I know this, as every time he posts, I just have to bring up his man love for Greg Kampe :)
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: VU2014 on April 13, 2018, 10:06:17 AM
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/984808535581253639
Title: Re: Place your choice for the next women’s B.B. coach here
Post by: crusadermoe on April 13, 2018, 02:53:48 PM
Lots of D-1 background at different levels of D-1.    Sounds like a good hire.