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Campbell 41
Valpo 28

Allstate Arena is a generically built dump.  It has to be the worst facility in the Big East.  The seating is horrible, accoutics are bad.  For a Big East school, it is lacking.

Allstate Arena in Rosemont where DePaul plays is pretty bad too.  Games at Hilltop Gym before the ARC were entertaining.

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thanks, I am actually suprised this has not gotten any national exposure - I mean, someone has to see this coming up.

I believe it is not mentioned because most people come to realize that in the end it only serves to hurt the humans and their psyche who are behind the teams that represent their schools.

I have to wonder if the sensitometer is a bit high.  We are talking football, bad football , and football is part of the toy department of life (quoting Howard Cosell to an extent) . No one is getting hurt.  If you want people bumming out, check out Hurricane Sandy and the politicians from both parties lying away while we have a $16T deficit.  The players from both teams will be fine, hopefully taking advantage of a quality education (if they have their priorities set) and learning to persevere from this.  The upcoming game is an interesting story which does not happen often by probability.

245  Valparaiso           AA =  18.45    0   8   44.47( 204)    0   0  |    0   0  |   20.25  244 |   17.81  246
246  Campbell             AA =  17.64    1   7   43.06( 221)    0   0  |    0   0  |   13.09  246 |   18.02  245

we will need to do a serious breakdown on this game. We should get Lou Holtz to evaluate how many "outstanding" players are on both sides.

thanks, I am actually suprised this has not gotten any national exposure - I mean, someone has to see this coming up.

At Buies Creek, NC where Sagarin ranked 244 Valpo and 245 Campbell slug it out for the worst team in Division I.  How often in college football history have the two worst Divsion I teams in America faced each other?   We have heard about #1 vs. #2 battles and the battles of the century, but to see the 2 worst teams battle in a multiple false start-offside, inconsistent excuse mindaching contest is one for the ages.

The heck with the Tide's dominating defense, the Ducks's TD in a minute offense, K-State multiple draw plays, and Brian Kelly looking constpated on the sidelines - who wants that? 

I think you are being too kind covufan.  Carlson's record is 1-29.  What reason would anyone remain patient with this?

There should be a high level of soul searching regarding having football at Valpo.  This is brutal.

are you guys sure that there does not need to be a coaching change?

cornonthe may have the closest pick today - it's 30-0 at half in favor of Marist.  They have had 4 TD plays of 70+ yards.  Simply brutal.  I feel bad again for Iclow trying to keep a positive face on this.

are they over tithing to the church?

OK, that can work.  Lacrosse is popular.

So you think if Valpo is not committed to FB, they should keep it?

You know, after reading and seeing all this, and Valpo's non-committment to make this work, and other schools committing to this, it's time to get rid of football.  Put more money into basketball where they have success and become more competitive in soccer.

Heck, think out of the box a little bit - how about hockey?

BTW, how did the subject change on this topic?  We are trying to promote Gameday!

I feel bad for the coach but the university is not committing the way they need to.  Either do it right or get rid of football.

FWIW Valpo is the only FCS school, I believe, in northern Indiana and is 118 miles away from the closest FCS school, NIU, in the midwest. Butler is 154 miles south and Indiana State is 168 miles south as well. There are no FCS programs to the east and none into lower Michigan. That we are in the middle of Northwestern, Purdue and ND (FBS schools) is not an issue -- the kids we want could maybe walk on (a few of them) but wouldn't be offered scholarships. We want kids who are FCS caliber kids who fell through the MVFC cracks or kids who would warrant a D-II FB scholarship, but would rather attend and play for a national D-I university. They are out there. Valpo just has to get them to enroll. But a pathetic W-L record since 2007 (10-52) and only 2 wins in the last 4 seasons with most losses of the epic scale does not inspire players to risk it. A high school senior didn't even check college FB scores until just a year or two ago. Maybe as junior he might even check college athletic web sites to research what schools (and their records and facilities) he might consider. Either way, he has only one memory of VU football -- lopsided losses. In his mind Valpo and winning do not compute. Past PFL titles are ancient history. It comes down to winning some games, sure, but that is not enough. If I was a young man considering attending a university like Valpo purely for academics and campus life (OK, Milan maybe not the party life ), it would certainly be in the mix and has much to draw my attention. However, if I were that same young man, but also loved football and wanted to continue to play football as an undergraduate, right now I wouldn't sign up. That's because no matter what people tell me on my visit on a recruiting trip, the physical evidence I would see around me would cause me to question the university's commitment to the one athletic program that I want to be a part of. Then I go to Butler and see the new Butler Bowl. I visit a D-III school like Franklin or DePauw and note how nice the football surroundings are. I want to feel good about my decision and my 4 year experience. I conclude that I don't want to lose most of my games over 4 years at a school that hasn't made the same commitment to football that I did.

Northern Illinois plays in the MAC in the FBS (or something but used to be Div. 1), not FCS.

Sorry to say, but 1-28 is not progressing, it is degressing.  However, much of this is because Valpo is not committed to football.  They currently have a program only because it is a university feature to attract students.  Let's be realistic here.

I will say this - as of today Valpo is #245 in the Sagarin and Campbell is #246!  This has got to be a prime time showdown and made for a College Gameday Saturday.  Imagine a group at Campbell of about 50 behind Fowler, Corso and Herbstreit.

Marist 28
Valpo 13

Five fulltime coaches left the program. They were not underpaid part time or volunteer coaches. From my understanding Carlson's coaching budget was significantly more than past head coaches at Valpo. Hard to build a program with a revolving door of coaches.

What was the cause of these coaches leaving?  Insufficiently pay? Conflict?

Some of the coaching changes in the assistants is probably due to lack of real money to pay them what they are worth as "part-time" coaches. I mean when the assistants barely make enough to make it worth leaving a full-time job during the day, why would they want to stay at VU?

So again, is Valpo committed to Div. 1 non-scholarship football? 

no red zone today.  How good is Dayton?

At the the QB in now (Schaeffer) is named after a classic cheap beer...

They'll hang around this weekend, and hopefully be competetive for at least a half, but there's no win here. I know people want to get excited after last week, but let's remember they've won 1 game in 2 1/2 years. 3 wins this season? Highly unlikely. That said, maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel? Dayton 42 Valpo 17

It looks like I will win the prize for closest score.  I over estimated them.  I think it is time for a change, I don't care what happens in the rest of the season. This is brutal.

It is working for me - the Crusader look brutal.  too many penalties. I feel soory for Iklow doing the broadcast.  He sounds like he is ready for the bus to be warmup.

Another 3 and out.

Ummm, no.  I think 1 win

Dayton 42
Valpo 14

Did you see what Texas Tech did last weekend?