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VU is now ranked #245 in the Sagarin ratings!!!

I was listening to part of the game on the Web from WAKE and it seems every time Valpo does something exciting, Iclow overreacts and there is some technical difficulty.  It is actually pretty entertaining.

Attendance was about 1200.  My guess was a little high.

So here is my question:  if Valpo goes 0-10 this year, then Coach Carlson is 1-32 after 3 years.  What do you do?

Attendance 1576 (the fans, not the squirels ...)

So if I use Saginin and add homefield advantage, Drake is a 31 pt favorite.

We mentioned the lonesome polecat in '09 on the other board: http://valpofans.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=valposports&action=print&thread=3647

Are you guys telling me Koch actually used this in a game?  He was a very nice guy, but he never knew how to call a play. 

oh yeah the USC I  !!!  Get some well corn fed offensive linemen and run student body left and right.  Have Charles White and Stanley Havili run the I.  And bring back Anthony Davis from 1974 as shown in the link.

USC Football Classics -Notre Dame 1974

Bring in the veer!

Drake 56
Valpo 17

Again, we can't we compete?  Is it the facilitiies, the committment from the school, bad recruiting?  Are we committed?  Or should we not dilute and focus on sports that we are successful in, have passion and can stay within our budget?

I am sure he regetted leaving SC and coaching the Bucs.  Legendary colege coach, weak pro coach.
Sad as it sounds, McKay's record at TB was better than Carlson's at Valpo.

I guess the mighty Crusaders will hold on to their Sagarin 246 ranking.  Some changes have to be in store - the same old excuse of playing for 60 minutes and not turning the ball over will not cut it.  There is no excuse why we cannot compete non-scholarship against Butler.  Again, is Valpo committed to football as the students are in paying tuition to compete?

maybe get Buddy Ryan out of retirement as defensive coordinator.

Perhaps it is time to call Coach Mike Ditka from his bar and grill to get things out of disarray.
Wow, what do you do now after this?

brutal. where do you go from here?  Drink a beer and chill and watch Oregon play tonight...

Sorry, but if the university has to depend on alumni funds to raise an extra $50K for a decent locker room, we have problems keeping a Div 1 team.

I am afraid to ask...but what do the facilities and locker room look like?  Is it that behind other schools in the Pioneer?

Also, if they are that bad, why does Valpo even try to have football?  Where is the committment?  It sounds like the university provides football just to say they have football.

Butler 38, Valpo 14.

At least bratwurst and beer will be good during homecoming weekend.
Geez, what a brutal season.

Guys, lighten up and have a little fun with this.

it's a beautiful thing. 

What kind of unwritten rules are there in football? I grew up with baseball as my primary sport and those debates are interesting to talk about... I ask that question to ask this one: at what score or in what scenarios do you "call off the dogs?" I didn't follow the game actively because I was at another event, but I saw in the box score that San Diego had a late 2nd quarter drive, seemed to run a 2-minute offense, stopped the clock with a late timeout to get a field goal in before halftime to make it 37-0. Obviously from our perspective, it'd be easy to say that the game was already over by then. I'm sure this situation isn't even close to the magnitude of Jacksonville doing it during its blowout 2 years ago, but the small similarities to that incident came to my mind when I saw the final.

In football I think the first half is fair game. The coach of the better team is still trying to coach skills and play execution. For the Valpo USD game, both teams should be evenly matched - no scholarships, same opportunities for recruiting and coaching, etc. I remember when Notre Dame played SMU just after SMU came off the "death penalty". SMU was undermanned, did not have full complement of scholarships, no team the previous year, etc. In that case calling off the dogs might be a little different. Even in the the Valpo-USD game, if USD puts in second and third teamers, each of them should play their hardest, and if they still score, it is on Valpo not USD. Even a second or third team QB should get a chance for a few passes, but not downfield. However, if the QB and recievers are well coached, and the defense makes mistakes and the receivers and QB react properly, it will look as though the team is running up the score, when actually they are more prepared and reacted as they were coached. Hopefully, we'll be in that position one day.

The best thing you can do in these situations is not allow yourself to get behind like 34-0 in the first place.  Perhaps they were getting practice for their kicker - who knows.  But the problem is why these guys keep getting hammered.

Well, the good news is that Valpo won't get spanked again this weekend.  I saw Carlson's comments about how the defense should have had 5 sacks instead of zero.  He is starting to sould like Wannstadt when he was coaching the Bears - and beleive me, that is not a good sign.

I hope the team enjoyed some good fish tacos before they flew back...

Let's be realistic here - is there progress being made?

I agree with your comments - very well said.  I think cleaning up the ARC and expanding it is a great idea for many reasons.  Regarding football, Ithink they need to take a systematic, holistic view and see where this fits in the the school goals.  Having a football program for the sake of saying you have a football program will not lead to success - where does this fit with the school vision?

The master plan was rather fluffy.  How this will enhance football is beyond me.

My question is sustainability.  Will the current freshmen and sophomores stay around for the long haul?  Or will they bag it and focus on their degree at Valpo or somewhere else?

USD 41
Valpo 7

If the Crusaders consume more protein through fish tacos in San Diego, they could add another score.