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Started by M, March 08, 2019, 02:22:02 PM

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How many players on our current roster will transfer?

None
3 (4.9%)
One
11 (18%)
Two
17 (27.9%)
Three
11 (18%)
More then (than) three
19 (31.1%)

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valpo64

 :) :)   One usually complains when something is not right...ND is one of many schools that have big money bases and we now have a sophisticated form of play for pay.  Let's not kid ourselves...like it or not...it is what it is.  It may take awhile but soon the big boys will control it all and everyone will have to adjust to the new norm.

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Quote from: valpo64 on May 02, 2022, 01:36:26 PM
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VU75

Trey Woodyard to New Hampshire

valpotx

Good for him, and keeps him in D-1, but within a lower tier conference that seems like a better fit.
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elephtheria47

Went to new hampshire last summer time. Beautiful state. Wish my basketball (in)abilities took me there for a couple of years.

mp91

Quote from: humbleopinion on May 12, 2022, 03:17:38 PM
Quote from: mp91 on May 12, 2022, 01:42:22 PM
https://twitter.com/ADavidHaleJoint/status/1524071293917835265

Brey is awesome. Glad someone finally said it. Way too much complaining going on over this.

Is it possible that Mike Brey has an alumni base willing and able to pay the very best athletes to play for Notre Dame?

Except, they do not have the very best athletes playing for Notre Dame basketball. They have not dominated the transfer portal. They still have subpar talent considering the program's previous stature. So, I don't think name, image, likeness has really had much impact on the team (at least not of yet). Plus, almost every team in their conference has nearly as powerful of alumni.


valpotx

#2108
That's an interesting development.  I didn't understand the JuCo route for him and undershooting his talent, but Missouri offering seems a bit like overshooting.  He was also offered by New Mexico State, which might serve him better initially.  How is he considered part of Triton, if he will never play for them?
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vu84v2

Quote from: valpotx on June 20, 2022, 06:30:33 AM
That's an interesting development.  I didn't understand the JuCo route for him and undershooting his talent, but Missouri offering seems a bit like overshooting.  He was also offered by New Mexico State, which might serve him better initially.  How is he considered part of Triton, if he will never play for them?

Despite the dramatic difference in conference strength, one could make a pretty good argument that New Mexico State has been better than Missouri in recent years.

valpotx

Congrats to Jake LaRavia on being drafted in the first round by the Minnesota Timberwolves!  A rare individual to step up in conference, and improve his draft stock significantly. 

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vu72

For those of you who thought the transfer trend would slow down after 1741 transferred in 2021, surprise!  The current total in 2022 is...1741!!  :o
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Quote from: VU2014 on June 20, 2022, 12:31:52 AM
https://twitter.com/jucorecruiting/status/1538719352085782528?s=21&t=le4xMnzRSaYBM1SWl-wYsA
I am assuming this is for next season. Mizzou's new coach is putting together quite a mid major program. This season they added one from Noarthern Iowa, Missouri State and UWM plus 4 came with him from Cleveland State. It will be interesting to see how they do. In total 12 news faces.

historyman

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Quote from: vu72 on July 18, 2022, 10:45:43 AM
For those of you who thought the transfer trend would slow down after 1741 transferred in 2021, surprise!  The current total in 2022 is...1741!!  :o

I believe that would be called a level change.

Are there not more division I schools this season than last? Would that not make it a lower percentage?


Sure glad I was wrong on my prediction of "more than three" for the Valpo MBB poll above.
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elephtheria47

2021-22 Transfer Portal Stats

1 out of 12 players who transferred this year went up in the portal, the rest transferred lateral or down.

46% of NCAA players who entered the portal this year will not play NCAA basketball in the upcoming 2022-23 season.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TP4PT/status/1554216422515113986

Obviously portaling is a great option for some players,  but with numbers like these, hopefully the numbers will be tampered in the future ?

vu72

Quote from: historyman on July 19, 2022, 01:25:41 PM
Quote from: vu72 on July 18, 2022, 10:45:43 AM
For those of you who thought the transfer trend would slow down after 1741 transferred in 2021, surprise!  The current total in 2022 is...1741!!  :o

I believe that would be called a level change.

Are there not more division I schools this season than last? Would that not make it a lower percentage?


Sure glad I was wrong on my prediction of "more than three" for the Valpo MBB poll above.

Accept the new total is 1792, so up 51 from the previous year.  Yes, there are more D1's. The current total is 363, so that is an average of 4.94 transfers per school. Valpo at 3 is very solid.
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RiderJake

#2116
Quote from: elephtheria47 on August 01, 2022, 10:20:25 PM2021-22 Transfer Portal Stats 1 out of 12 players who transferred this year went up in the portal, the rest transferred lateral or down. 46% of NCAA players who entered the portal this year will not play NCAA basketball in the upcoming 2022-23 season. https://mobile.twitter.com/TP4PT/status/1554216422515113986HERE Obviously portaling is a great option for some players,  but with numbers like these, hopefully the numbers will be tampered in the future ?

It turns out that about half of the players are not in demand in the market. Is it their level so low or does the league have high demands?

mj

QuoteIt turns out that about half of the players are not in demand in the market. Is it their level so low or does the league have high demands?

I think it's an issue of limited rosters spots and fungible talent. Guys overvalue themselves when they're actually replacement level players.
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EddieCabot

Quote from: mj on October 11, 2022, 09:51:04 AM
QuoteIt turns out that about half of the players are not in demand in the market. Is it their level so low or does the league have high demands?

I think it's an issue of limited rosters spots and fungible talent. Guys overvalue themselves when they're actually replacement level players.

I think DI rosters spots are in shorter supply for a couple of reasons.  First, many players are staying around for a 5th season by using the "Covid Year" exemption.  After the first year, those guys count as one of your 13 scholarships, so fewer spots for incoming freshman and transfers.  Secondly, many high major players are staying in school longer because they can make as much in NLI money as they would playing professionally overseas.