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Started by M, March 08, 2019, 02:22:02 PM

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How many players on our current roster will transfer?

None
3 (4.9%)
One
11 (18%)
Two
17 (27.9%)
Three
11 (18%)
More then (than) three
19 (31.1%)

Total Members Voted: 61

bbtds

Quote from: humbleopinion on July 04, 2021, 06:02:19 AM
Quote from: Just Sayin on July 03, 2021, 01:41:22 PMOn a larger scale, Kentucky often has a very talented group of freshman from all over the country and they find ways to be very successful with only Mr. Basketball freshman on their team.
Do you remember Evansville beating Kentucky early in the season a couple years ago?

You know if one of the NAIA, Div II or III teams beats Valpo in an exhibition or early season game it might make this team a whole lot better in the end. Wasn't it the 1998 Sweet Sixteen team that lost to Bethel in an exhibition game?

vu72

I don't think this has been posted before but if it has it's still worth another look.

Here is an extended background video on Thomas Kithier.  I really think he will be a game changer for us.  The more I see him the more I'm thinking "Matt Howard".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU1FVAlbrkI
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wh

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Quote from: vu72 on July 06, 2021, 11:12:06 AM
I don't think this has been posted before but if it has it's still worth another look.

Here is an extended background video on Thomas Kithier.  I really think he will be a game changer for us.  The more I see him the more I'm thinking "Matt Howard".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU1FVAlbrkI

It's fascinating to get such a detailed look into their journey together as a family, their rock solid value system framed around gratitude (something that seems to be in short supply among millennials), expressing appreciation for wisdom garnered from a teammate, etc. From the outside looking in, I find Isso's harsh approach a little off putting, but he always seems to squeeze out every ounce of potential from his players. It will be interesting to see how he responds to Matt's much more mellow coaching style.

vu84v2

Quote from: bbtds on July 04, 2021, 06:23:12 AM
Quote from: humbleopinion on July 04, 2021, 06:02:19 AM
Quote from: Just Sayin on July 03, 2021, 01:41:22 PMOn a larger scale, Kentucky often has a very talented group of freshman from all over the country and they find ways to be very successful with only Mr. Basketball freshman on their team.
Do you remember Evansville beating Kentucky early in the season a couple years ago?

You know if one of the NAIA, Div II or III teams beats Valpo in an exhibition or early season game it might make this team a whole lot better in the end. Wasn't it the 1998 Sweet Sixteen team that lost to Bethel in an exhibition game?

That team lost to Bethel by ten in the first regular season game. Still, I would not endorse losing to a non-D1 as a positive indicator of good things to come.

vu72

Quote from: vu84v2 on July 07, 2021, 01:48:51 PM
Quote from: bbtds on July 04, 2021, 06:23:12 AM
Quote from: humbleopinion on July 04, 2021, 06:02:19 AM
Quote from: Just Sayin on July 03, 2021, 01:41:22 PMOn a larger scale, Kentucky often has a very talented group of freshman from all over the country and they find ways to be very successful with only Mr. Basketball freshman on their team.
Do you remember Evansville beating Kentucky early in the season a couple years ago?

You know if one of the NAIA, Div II or III teams beats Valpo in an exhibition or early season game it might make this team a whole lot better in the end. Wasn't it the 1998 Sweet Sixteen team that lost to Bethel in an exhibition game?

That team lost to Bethel by ten in the first regular season game. Still, I would not endorse losing to a non-D1 as a positive indicator of good things to come.

Wasn't Bryce injured and didn't play in that game?
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

vu84v2

Quote from: vu72 on July 07, 2021, 01:52:28 PM
Quote from: vu84v2 on July 07, 2021, 01:48:51 PM
Quote from: bbtds on July 04, 2021, 06:23:12 AM
Quote from: humbleopinion on July 04, 2021, 06:02:19 AM
Quote from: Just Sayin on July 03, 2021, 01:41:22 PMOn a larger scale, Kentucky often has a very talented group of freshman from all over the country and they find ways to be very successful with only Mr. Basketball freshman on their team.
Do you remember Evansville beating Kentucky early in the season a couple years ago?

You know if one of the NAIA, Div II or III teams beats Valpo in an exhibition or early season game it might make this team a whole lot better in the end. Wasn't it the 1998 Sweet Sixteen team that lost to Bethel in an exhibition game?

That team lost to Bethel by ten in the first regular season game. Still, I would not endorse losing to a non-D1 as a positive indicator of good things to come.

Wasn't Bryce injured and didn't play in that game?

Yes, and he missed the next game against Purdue as well.

valpospartan

Quote from: wh on July 06, 2021, 12:56:06 PM
Quote from: vu72 on July 06, 2021, 11:12:06 AM
I don't think this has been posted before but if it has it's still worth another look.

Here is an extended background video on Thomas Kithier.  I really think he will be a game changer for us.  The more I see him the more I'm thinking "Matt Howard".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU1FVAlbrkI

It's fascinating to get such a detailed look into their journey together as a family, their rock solid value system framed around gratitude (something that seems to be in short supply among millennials), expressing appreciation for wisdom garnered from a teammate, etc. From the outside looking in, I find Isso's harsh approach a little off putting, but he always seems to squeeze out every ounce of potential from his players. It will be interesting to see how he responds to Matt's much more mellow coaching style.

WH,  Tom Izzo (not Isso) certainly is an intensely passionate coach, whose emotions range from harsh, to caring.  What he does do is care deeply for his players, which is returned by them, as evidenced by the large number who stay close to the program well after they leave MSU.  I have no doubt that Tom will do just fine at VU.   
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vu72

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justducky

Quote from: vu72 on July 08, 2021, 09:50:47 AM
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Re: Transfers
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King in the house! 
Final exams and the first semester end Dec 17. Is it safe to assume this is his eligibility date? If so can we have a home game that night?  :thumbsup:

elephtheria47

IIRC, if it ends on the 17th, the first date of eligibility would be the 18th. So maybe we should wait until then to schedule a game :) but yes, he will be able to play right around there. Welcome aboard!

wh

Quote from: vu72 on July 08, 2021, 09:50:47 AM
King in the house!  This could be a special year!  Welcome Kobe!!

http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2021-22/20551/kobe-king-joins-valpo-mens-basketball-program/

If I wasn't excited about this team before (and I was), I certainly am now. I'm already looking forward to ordering season tickets. BTW I have new wh family connection to Valpo. One of my grandsons will be a member of this year's freshman class. I'm greatly looking forward to having him around for the next 4 years. He loves basketball, so I don't think it will take much to get him hooked.

vufan75

[emoji106]to wh grandson!! GoValpo!! [emoji459][emoji91]

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Pgmado

Thrilled to be making a post about basketball.

Here's a look at how Trevor Anderson helped craft a bulk of the 2021-22 Valparaiso basketball roster. -- https://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/wisconsin-transfer-trevor-anderson-works-behind-the-scenes-in-valpos-recruiting-process/article_c131bade-316b-5c97-8be4-0a24035b2da9.html

Here is a podcast episode with those transfers sharing their stories -- https://omny.fm/shows/union-street-hoops/the-valparaiso-fab-five-episode

wh

Quote from: Pgmado on July 08, 2021, 08:27:23 PM
Thrilled to be making a post about basketball.

Here's a look at how Trevor Anderson helped craft a bulk of the 2021-22 Valparaiso basketball roster. -- https://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/wisconsin-transfer-trevor-anderson-works-behind-the-scenes-in-valpos-recruiting-process/article_c131bade-316b-5c97-8be4-0a24035b2da9.html

Here is a podcast episode with those transfers sharing their stories -- https://omny.fm/shows/union-street-hoops/the-valparaiso-fab-five-episode

Absolutely outstanding interview.

valpopal

Quote from: wh on July 08, 2021, 10:43:04 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on July 08, 2021, 08:27:23 PM
Thrilled to be making a post about basketball.

Here's a look at how Trevor Anderson helped craft a bulk of the 2021-22 Valparaiso basketball roster. -- https://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/wisconsin-transfer-trevor-anderson-works-behind-the-scenes-in-valpos-recruiting-process/article_c131bade-316b-5c97-8be4-0a24035b2da9.html

Here is a podcast episode with those transfers sharing their stories -- https://omny.fm/shows/union-street-hoops/the-valparaiso-fab-five-episode

Absolutely outstanding interview.
Yes, an excellent interview by Paul. Those of us who have moderated numerous Zoom sessions can appreciate the way he got all five involved and engaged with various issues. It is a juggling act, and Paul never fumbled.

vu72

Great to be talking basketball again! Well done Paul!

Makes you wonder about the starting lineup.

Could it be the all transfer team of:

PG Anderson
SG King
C   Hedstrom
PF  Kithier
SF  Taylor

Or Maybe the all Freshman/Returning team of:

PG  Gordon
SG  Edwards
C    Krikke
PF   Young
SF   Palesse

or maybe...Some VERY nice options!
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

valpo64

That will be as daunting job to get these guys together and come up with a starting 5.  I'm glad I don't have to do it.  But it should be a fun season ahead.

VUGrad1314

Valpo should dominate the all newcomer team this year. If we don't then I would say something went wrong this year. Too much talent incoming not to be excited and hopeful of at least a top 4 finish (sixth at the absolute lowest). As good as Loyola and Drake will be it is reasonable to believe they will both take steps back without Krutwig and Yesufu respectively). I think they're both more talented but we match up very well with Drake and Hutson is solid but he's no Krutwig which could give us a real chance against the Ramblers if we gel in time. UNI is a giant wildcard both in terms of health and performance. They might be the most talented (or second most talented) team in the conference but they have undeniably underachieved with all that talent so far. Missouri State has perhaps the best duo in the conference with Mosley and Prim and they did add Clay but unless Clay added an outside shot they could have issues again this year. The Bears might be more talented (I think it's probably close between us) but we should be deeper I think. SIU should be solid but I think we have more overall talent than them. The question will be bringing it all together. Valley teams look like they're scheduling up this year and that's a good thing. I hope we're ready to take on some very good and battle tested squads this year and are scheduling up ourselves. It seems we have a fairly solid start to our schedule I just hope it will finish that way. The excitement is palpable. This team SHOULD BE very competitive. Go Valpo!

Chairback

Will be interesting to see how the offense flows.  Last year their was a lot of standing around and chugging shots to beat the shot clock.  They looked completely confused on offense.   

vu72

Quote from: Chairback on July 09, 2021, 02:05:42 PM
Will be interesting to see how the offense flows.  Last year their was a lot of standing around and chugging shots to beat the shot clock.  They looked completely confused on offense.   

Should be an entirely different situation.  We had a starting lineup that probably shot a combined 20% from the three particularly late in the year with Barrett out. Knock down a few of those shots and things will open up. 
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justducky

Quote from: vu72 on July 09, 2021, 04:31:28 PMWe had a starting lineup that probably shot a combined 20% from the three particularly late in the year with Barrett out. Knock down a few of those shots and things will open up. 

We could start the year with a bunch of players having the green light to take open 3's. Better penetration and King posting could open all kinds of additional open outside looks. Could we be over 33% team from 3?

nkvu

The battle for playing time should be fierce at the 2 & 3. We have a lot of possibilities if we need to go small, but some guys who saw the court a lot last year are going to see it a lot less next. I expect Hedstrom and the two K's will take most of the minutes at the 4 & 5 in various combinations except when one or more get into early foul trouble, then maybe Young breaks through. Anderson should see the most minutes at point with Gordon getting most of the rest. Going to be tough for any of the freshmen to see a lot of playing time, but if one or more does you know they are going to be really, really good. Just hope the freshman are patient because they have a lot of experienced guys ahead of them now. Would hate to see a lot of transfers from them because they didn't get a lot of playing time right away.

Chairback

I'm ready for Paul and Todd's yearly over/under podcast episode.  Will be a good one. 

valpotx

I don't follow anything Big 10, but even I remember the press that Kobe King was receiving at the end of the 2019-2020 season.  I am really excited to see what he can do in the MVC!
"Don't mess with Texas"

AB

Sharing the ball, understanding rolls and who is this years alpha male? Every team has to have one or two. Did we really have one consistently last year? That also means closing games, getting buckets in the crunch time. Right now it's a honeymoon time, but come late December its a 9 man rotation likely.
Do we have a Keith Carter type to organize our offense when we have to play half court grind it out in the 50's? Sackey wasn't it, Gordon is a 2.