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VUGrad1314

Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on April 05, 2018, 04:11:00 PM
Quote from: FWalum on April 05, 2018, 04:06:01 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on April 05, 2018, 01:53:09 PM
What's the expanation?

   > NKU won  MCM and went to the dance in 2017

   > They won the 2018 HL regular season (But got beat in their first game as the #1 seed by CSU - sound familiar?).

   > Got great recruiting plaudits and wound up banking talented players for the depth necessary for long-term program success.

   > They play in the best campus arena in the HL and in a BB-focused culture.

   > The coach has a very good reputation

Why are they leaving???

As the article intimates, it appears that Faulkner has fallen out of favor with the coaching staff with decreased minutes later in the season.  Both his minutes played and PPG were down from his freshman year.  Being a prolific scorer in high school, I am sure that he feels he could contribute at a higher rate at a different school.

Not sure we need drama, even if drama can score 15 ppg

Why not? We took a flier on Burton for the same reasons we might take a flier on Faulkner. As long as there's no legal issues with him I say he's worth a shot.

M

Local kid Chris Palombizio is leaving Oakland.

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: VUGrad1314 on April 05, 2018, 04:38:51 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on April 05, 2018, 04:11:00 PM
Quote from: FWalum on April 05, 2018, 04:06:01 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on April 05, 2018, 01:53:09 PM
What's the expanation?

   > NKU won  MCM and went to the dance in 2017

   > They won the 2018 HL regular season (But got beat in their first game as the #1 seed by CSU - sound familiar?).

   > Got great recruiting plaudits and wound up banking talented players for the depth necessary for long-term program success.

   > They play in the best campus arena in the HL and in a BB-focused culture.

   > The coach has a very good reputation

Why are they leaving???

As the article intimates, it appears that Faulkner has fallen out of favor with the coaching staff with decreased minutes later in the season.  Both his minutes played and PPG were down from his freshman year.  Being a prolific scorer in high school, I am sure that he feels he could contribute at a higher rate at a different school.

Not sure we need drama, even if drama can score 15 ppg

Why not? We took a flier on Burton for the same reasons we might take a flier on Faulkner. As long as there's no legal issues with him I say he's worth a shot.

If you are saying we are ok with one huge swing and a miss most years, sure why not.  I thought the forum here was pretty clear on their issue with the Burton attempt though.

This is precisely that, sit one year and then play.  So it's really two years of scholarship tie up for one year of play on a guy that was unhappy being a high contributor to his previous team.  Sounds like a player I might pass on, admittedly knowing very little about his reasons for transferring at this point.

He took some retarded shots early in the shot clock @ NKU.  He was a freshman, however....

FieldGoodie05

Union Street Hoops, where art thou...😉

VU2014

Faulkner is a fairly talented kid but he isn't on Joe's level, imo. Two different scenarios. I don't think there was much drama with Joe. His teammates loved him but he just couldn't get his grades straightened out. Who knows what the real reason is for Faulkner. I can't remember the last selfish guy we had on our team. Everyone has always been pretty team first guy on our squads in recent years. Maybe Jay Harris would fit in that category? I remember he took some horrendous and ill-advised shots in his time here.

VUGrad1314

Update on Welage: Add Loyola to the list of schools he's considering...

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/981943123361312770

VU2014

Quote from: VUGrad1314 on April 05, 2018, 08:25:14 PM
Update on Welage: Add Loyola to the list of schools he's considering...

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/981943123361312770

He's a good player. He has similar skill set and measurable as Fazekas.

VUGrad1314

If Loyola's involved why aren't we? Guys with size that can shoot are huge for teams. We can never have enough.

SanityLost17

Quote from: VUGrad1314 on April 05, 2018, 08:55:47 PM
If Loyola's involved why aren't we? Guys with size that can shoot are huge for teams. We can never have enough.

Because they were a final 4 team this year and we were dead last in the conference.    Thats why. 

a3uge

Quote from: SanityLost17 on April 06, 2018, 07:16:52 AM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on April 05, 2018, 08:55:47 PM
If Loyola's involved why aren't we? Guys with size that can shoot are huge for teams. We can never have enough.

Because they were a final 4 team this year and we were dead last in the conference.    Thats why.
UNC-Greensboro was a final four team?

IndyValpo

Quote from: VUGrad1314 on April 05, 2018, 08:55:47 PM
If Loyola's involved why aren't we? Guys with size that can shoot are huge for teams. We can never have enough.
While I agree; there is an overwhelming number of transfers. This website says 391 transfers total with over 100 graduate transfers.  Also note that at this point it is not guaranteed Welage will be eligible immediately.
https://www.verbalcommits.com/transfers/Melvin%20Morgan

VU2014

Quote from: a3uge on April 06, 2018, 07:20:12 AM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on April 06, 2018, 07:16:52 AM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on April 05, 2018, 08:55:47 PM
If Loyola's involved why aren't we? Guys with size that can shoot are huge for teams. We can never have enough.

Because they were a final 4 team this year and we were dead last in the conference.    Thats why.
UNC-Greensboro was a final four team?

It also just might be the case of the coaches thinking we need to address other areas of the roster for next season. At SDSU Welage was more of a perimeter player then a guy who operated inside which might be the area we want to sure up with some experience. It's not just about adding talent. We need to find the best fits possible.

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: IndyValpo on April 06, 2018, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on April 05, 2018, 08:55:47 PM
If Loyola's involved why aren't we? Guys with size that can shoot are huge for teams. We can never have enough.
While I agree; there is an overwhelming number of transfers. This website says 391 transfers total with over 100 graduate transfers.  Also note that at this point it is not guaranteed Welage will be eligible immediately.
https://www.verbalcommits.com/transfers/Melvin%20Morgan

Refreshing to see that number not continue ballooning each year, though it's still early I suppose (391 this year -vs- around 500 in 2017).

Either way, some transfers each season is healthy but 10-12% of all D1 scholarship players seems high (2017 numbers).

VU2014

Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on April 06, 2018, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on April 06, 2018, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on April 05, 2018, 08:55:47 PM
If Loyola's involved why aren't we? Guys with size that can shoot are huge for teams. We can never have enough.
While I agree; there is an overwhelming number of transfers. This website says 391 transfers total with over 100 graduate transfers.  Also note that at this point it is not guaranteed Welage will be eligible immediately.
https://www.verbalcommits.com/transfers/Melvin%20Morgan

Refreshing to see that number not continue ballooning each year, though it's still early I suppose (391 this year -vs- around 500 in 2017).

Either way, some transfers each season is healthy but 10-12% of all D1 scholarship players seems high (2017 numbers).

It's still early. It will probably continue to grow in the coming weeks. We'll probably see more movement after signing day.

valpotx

Any word on other Valpo transfers, outside of Parker?  It would be fantastic if it is just him this season.
"Don't mess with Texas"

valpo64

Is anybody really surprised at the Palombizio kid leaving?  He has been a problem ever since his high school years.  Who would ever leave such a great program and a great coach like Oakland and "King" Kampe?    :)   :)   

VU2014


usc4valpo

Chris Palumbezio is head case? Not surprising, as like father Dan like son.

VU2014

#318
Another grad-transfer that would be a homerun is Matt Mooney from South Dakota. Love this kids game. He said he was going to explore his options. I'd be a big fan if we landed a kid of his talent. Plays fundamentally sound ball and has a long range jumper. He's an efficient player. If we're going to go for a guard this offseason he might be a good fit but he might get some high major interest.

Stats: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/matt-mooney-1.html

https://twitter.com/MoonSwag13/status/981942084851716096

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ydPURFIexE

VU2014

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I heard we showed some interest in Palombizio late in his recruitment process. I don't think we're a fit. I'm hoping if we pursue a RS transfer it would be for someone with higher upside.

valpospartan

Quote from: usc4valpo on April 07, 2018, 02:42:33 PM
Chris Palumbezio is head case? Not surprising, as like father Dan like son.
Not to mention grandfather.
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts as of 5/9/12 - 677
Location: Valpo

M

Gramps is much more on the edge then Dan is...now at least.

VU2014

It sounds like Valpo has talked to UIndy product Tate Hall who would have 2 years eligibility left. I believe he would be red-shirt transfer. Evansville already officially offered him a scholarship.

https://twitter.com/JWReamer/status/983418621094453249

Status: Transferred from Indianapolis
Year: 2016 (SO)
Position: SG
Height: 6-6
Weight: 200
Hometown: Greenfield, IN
High School: Greenfield-Central High School
Twitter handle: @tate_hall41

Stats: http://athletics.uindy.edu/cumestats.aspx?path=mbball&year=2017
High School Highlights: https://www.hudl.com/profile/2274340/Tate-Hall/videos

It looks like Tate is a very strong 3pt shooter (43.6% last season). He has good size for a guard. It's a little concerning that we'd have 8 juniors. That is a monstrous class. 

https://twitter.com/tate_hall41/status/981242388189499392

#24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3EgejocBaY


valpo64

From what I have heard both the Mooney kid and Tate would be good finds for us. 

IrishDawg

Quote from: valpo64 on April 09, 2018, 04:44:12 PM
From what I have heard both the Mooney kid and Tate would be good finds for us.

https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/982298960931901440

Unless something significant changes, Mooney is likely out of Valpo's reach.