As mentioned, let's separate the Oakland/Detroit game. Titans bring different challenges. Big question, will the Crusaders be mentally prepared after a ESPN2 game at Oakland? The commissioner wrote a good piece on their blog and is worth reading. I will be catching a 6am flight from Tulsa and will be at the game in Detroit. Not too many direct flights from Tulsa but Detroit is one of them and after last nights game, I'm very excited. And I've always wanted to see a game at Mercy. Hope standby can get a seat and hope our guys are focused with a good game plan.
The sagarin line has the good guys as 9 point favorites.
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 09, 2016, 11:18:17 AMThe commissioner wrote a good piece on their blog and is worth reading
Link? This piece?
http://www.detroittitanhoops.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2617&sid=f8d5316d884a8dd5d72eea96a70b7222 (http://www.detroittitanhoops.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2617&sid=f8d5316d884a8dd5d72eea96a70b7222)
Looks like a good write-up, though I'm not sure where he's getting his turnover numbers from.
That's their message board, in any case, for reference. And the VU game thread in particular.
C'mon commish...no one thinks it was clean foul. It was a harder then necessary foul and he got what he deserved. At the same time, had Doug just dunked it instead of trying to windmill and blow he roof off the gym he probably never gets caught by slow motion Capo.
Onto this year.....
Detroit is the team I always worry about most. They always have athletes and until recently Valpo hasn't had athletes. Now we do, and our athletes are bigger. Valpo made one statement yesterday and will make another one tomorrow. Valpo wins 76-62.
Why worry so much about Detroit? Don't you know who their coach is, and he doesn't have his son on the team any more?
The athletes and the weird venue always worry me. However Detroit has the worst coach in D1 and Valpo has great defense and knows how to win. Valpo in a close and ugly one: 61 - 55
I'm predicting that the momentum from Oakland carries over and we win by 15-20.
Are the Titans .....
Bigger and/or
Faster and/or
More Skilled
.... than Oakland?
Can't be all three. So, if not, regardless of how well our offense clicks, our D will control the game.
UDM Is #10 of 10 in Scoring Defense; we are #1.
NOTE: GAME TIME CHANGED TO 1PM EASTERN, NOON -CENTRAL
Any word on Keith's foot and can EVN be asked to go 15 minutes? Who is our 3'rd string point or would Bryce just draw a name out of the hat?
I know Shane has sometimes been bringing the ball up but has his play truly fit the point guard definition? So is our starting point from 2 years back (Lexus) now relegated to the 3rd string, 4'th string, or 5'th string position? A part of me is hoping that Max and Lexus can both find some mid-season playing time but Detroit might not be the ideal location for the experience.
Kieth looked like he got injured with 1:10 left and came out right away.
Might Lexus be red shirted .... Again .... .
Might Lexus be red-shirted again?? That's not how it works. So no.
So why is he not in the rotation at all? Two years ago he was brilliant. Can those injuries be that debilitating?
I think Max could fill in at point and help Valpo win tomorrow's game at Calahan.
Bryce is an 8 to 9 man rotation coach, as is pretty common among most top coaches today. He doesn't feel Lexus is in his top 9. Let's not overlook he had 2 major knee surgeries and doesn't have the same speed as he had before the injuries.
safe travels to anyone that made the trip. We got hit with a bad ice storm this morning.
Quote from: motowntitan on January 10, 2016, 10:19:23 AM
safe travels to anyone that made the trip. We got hit with a bad ice storm this morning.
Valpo was supposed to pick up as much as six inches, but got barely a dusting. Travel safely everyone! Hopefully anyone out gets their power back soon.
Took me some hunting among the blizzard of small sports channels, but it seems that in Valpo the game's on CSN Chicago. Channel 37 on my Comcast.
http://americansportsnet.com/schedule/ (http://americansportsnet.com/schedule/)
has a search box which might help you get started in your zip code.
(CSN Chicago is not the same as Comcast Sports Network, etc.)
Also ESPN3 online, which should hopefully mean a quick archive, etc.
Quote from: chef on January 10, 2016, 09:35:49 AM
Bryce is an 8 to 9 man rotation coach, as is pretty common among most top coaches today. He doesn't feel Lexus is in his top 9. Let's not overlook he had 2 major knee surgeries and doesn't have the same speed as he had before the injuries.
The real question is this... Is it possible that Lexus may someday regain a good portion of his former speed, or is it now gone forever. Wishful thinking is that it is just a long slow process to retrain the tendons to be as springy as they once were. However, the fact that they recruited an undersized/speedy point guard for next year makes me wonder.
He was my favorite player on the team when he was a freshman, so I really hope that sometime in the next 2 years we see him back to normal. :)
As mentioned prior, this team exerted a lot of energy on Friday night. I expect us to be a step slow on defense and for a few guys to get into foul trouble because of it. I still think we win, but it will be uncomfortably close with Detroit doing a lot of damage from the free throw line.
Watching on CSN. Am I the only one whose broadcast is is choppy as heck?
ESPN3 is clear and strong.
Just switched over
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on January 10, 2016, 12:25:29 PM
Watching on CSN. Am I the only one whose broadcast is is choppy as heck?
On _TV_ it was choppy? I've never seen that.
For me, five minutes ago, unless I was really messed up, CSN (Chicago) wasn't showing the game at all. It was some random bit about sports memorabilia. (It's on CSN for me now - standard feed, fine quality. ) While the game was on ESPN3 and WVUR. Unless I somehow repeatedly had the wrong channel, then got it right? Or they had some weird, long commercial on?
Anybody else seeing this?
Good start for Valpo, at least!
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on January 10, 2016, 12:25:29 PM
Watching on CSN. Am I the only one whose broadcast is is choppy as heck?
OK - I did just now see one digital-type, skip-a-frame feeling glitch on their TV broadcast. Odd.
So Peters is good.
Quote from: a3uge on January 10, 2016, 12:51:23 PM
So Peters is good.
Very nice to see him explode. From what I saw in five minutes everything was just an offensive explosion. Peters slam dunk. Dirty passing from peters. Crazy dirty dribbling from Skara. Looked like they could do no wrong.
Most points for a player in a half since... ?
Most points for Valpo in a half since... ?
Quote from: SanityLost17 on January 10, 2016, 11:30:37 AM
As mentioned prior, this team exerted a lot of energy on Friday night. I expect us to be a step slow on defense and for a few guys to get into foul trouble because of it. I still think we win, but it will be uncomfortably close with Detroit doing a lot of damage from the free throw line.
I was wrong...
Quote from: agibson on January 10, 2016, 12:56:13 PMMost points for Valpo in a half since... ?
Not _so_ long, it turns out.
November 23, 2014 again Maine, neutral court. 54 in the first half for Valpo.
On the road too. Bryce did a fantastic job getting his players ready for this.
Where have I seen this before? 2nd half has been dreadful.
When in doubt, call a foul.
The way the refs started calling the game in the second half has helped Detroit to get back into the game
Go Valpo!
VALPO! - THE MAJOR mid-major or 3/4 major, maybe 7/8 major.
What was the flagrant foul with under a minute?
Go Valpo!
Always fun to stomp a mud-hole in Detroit's @$$ :). I don't know what happened at the end, but #23 was apparently throwing a bigger hissy fit than my 20 month old. Who gets a flagrant-1 and then a technical in the last minute? What a putz.
We are primarily a defensive team, but we can sure put up points (although Oak and Det have mediocre defenses).
Refs went a little crazy with the whistles in the second half.
Looked a little too close to previous Valpo-Detroit games for a few minutes there, but we stuck together and pulled it out.
Peters -- wow.
Was this game perfect? No. There are lessons to learn, but we got an 18 point win on the road against one of the better HL teams. Gotta feel pretty good.
For a little while in the first I thought we were about to have a "statement win" on the road... 30+
18 is still awesome. ...
Go Valpo!
Might be hard to track down that "most points in a half" stat but great to see Alec claim a piece of Brandon Wood's most points in a D1 game record. Awesome to see that he -can- explode. (Wood's points against GA Southern were more balanced, so there's a chance at least that Alec holds the single half record alone.)
11-11 you figure he's got a shot at the VU single game FT% record too, but I don't know if anyone keeps it. (The Horizon record is 18-18, and was in a league game.)
You think he can wrest POTW away from Felder, for a change?
Most points we've allowed in a win this season, but most points we've scored and probably above our average win margin, so maybe OK.
Our "win when Tevonn" scores 15 streak is still going strong.
(I hesitate to mention it on this thread, but RPI Forecast's calculated chance for us to run the regular season should rise to at least 13%.)
Could an RPI of 24 be the best Valpo's had in January?
Quote from: agibson on January 10, 2016, 03:43:07 PMCould an RPI of 24 be the best Valpo's had in January?
Our defense slipped a little, according to KenPom, but still hanging in at #2 in the country. Our offense improved enough to push us to #19 overall... highest ranking ever? Certainly the highest I've seen this season.
Quote from: agibson on January 10, 2016, 03:43:07 PMt POTW away from Felder, for a change?
I think he's got Tevonn to compete with this week.
Battle of the last two unbeaten HL teams on a Sunday afternoon. Attendance: 1513. :( :-X
Quote from: valpotx on January 10, 2016, 02:12:03 PM
Always fun to stomp a mud-hole in Detroit's @$$ :). I don't know what happened at the end, but #23 was apparently throwing a bigger hissy fit than my 20 month old. Who gets a flagrant-1 and then a technical in the last minute? What a putz.
Same mind set and lack of discipline that the Bengals displayed yesterday.
Quote from: agibson on January 10, 2016, 03:43:07 PM
Might be hard to track down that "most points in a half" stat but great to see Alec claim a piece of Brandon Wood's most points in a D1 game record. Awesome to see that he -can- explode. (Wood's points against GA Southern were more balanced, so there's a chance at least that Alec holds the single half record alone.)
11-11 you figure he's got a shot at the VU single game FT% record too, but I don't know if anyone keeps it. (The Horizon record is 18-18, and was in a league game.)
You think he can wrest POTW away from Felder, for a change?
Most points we've allowed in a win this season, but most points we've scored and probably above our average win margin, so maybe OK.
Our "win when Tevonn" scores 15 streak is still going strong.
(I hesitate to mention it on this thread, but RPI Forecast's calculated chance for us to run the regular season should rise to at least 13%.)
Could an RPI of 24 be the best Valpo's had in January?
Yes, and its not even close.
Quote from: VULB#62 on January 10, 2016, 04:51:04 PM
Battle of the last two unbeaten HL teams on a Sunday afternoon. Attendance: 1513. :( :-X
Weather was a factor.
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Wow! What a trip! A couple of things caught my eye. First, our starting five had 12 assts and 3 turnovers. Overall 14 assts and 10 TOs. We out rebounded them by 8 and shot 87.9 from the line! Vashil had an off night but still had 3 blks. Our defense let down in the second half but give them credit for adjusting and shooting very well. Still, 45 points in one half is not Valpo like. Keith is turning into that kid who Majerus thought would be the best player he had recruited. Today, 7 assts and zero TOs! Great performance all around.
Oh yeah, what the heck is with Paris Bass? Suspended for 7 games and today didn't start--for some reason. This kid has NBA potential but again, getting the right players who can play within the system is so important. Ray has had issues in this area for a long time.
Another nice road win. Wasn't too surprised that Detroit made a run to make it interesting, I imagine it is hard to stay as focussed defensively when you are just beating someone like they stole something. Nice way to finish the game strong, and how about that Peters kid. He is pretty good at basketball. Alec is going to get a lot of press time, but Tevo Walker was outstanding both games and if he keeps hitting those threes at the rate he has been.........
These 2 games in Detroit were probably the best week-end road trip that I can remember for a VU team. Even though we had a few let-downs, both performances were pretty much dominating...and against 2 good teams. This was Detroit's first home loss this season. It was great publicity for Valpo as both games were network games and I would hope they will help in recruiting.
Felder and Bass combined for 19 PPG against us on a pathetic 13-46 (28%) from the field.
Alec averaged 27 PPG on a combined 18-30 FG (60%), 14-15 FT (93%), and 12.5 RPG and 2 double-doubles.
Alec is off to a great start toward league MVP.
I think I would give Tevonn the edge of Peters for player of the week. Both deserve it. Perhaps co-player of the week?
Quote from: SanityLost17 on January 10, 2016, 07:15:05 PM
I think I would give Tevonn the edge of Peters for player of the week. Both deserve it. Perhaps co-player of the week?
Agreed on Tevonn. In the "feature" game of the week, the ESPN game, he made big shot after big shot. Alec will get plenty of awards.
Quote from: SanityLost17 on January 10, 2016, 07:15:05 PMPerhaps co-player of the week?
Seems like it's been done, but maybe not for two players on the same team?
I always sort of figured teams nominated one of their players, but perhaps they could squeeze in two players on the nomination form.
Quote from: SanityLost17 on January 10, 2016, 07:15:05 PM
I think I would give Tevonn the edge of Peters for player of the week. Both deserve it. Perhaps co-player of the week?
No way, Felder scored 20+ in both games this week.
Alec also had a crap-ton (official measurement) of rebounds in both games as well.
And whoever is nominated will have to face off with Cameron Morse from YSU - dropped 44 last night, averaged somewhere around 28 for the week as the Penguins went 2-1 - anybody know the last time YSU won twice in the same week?
Quote from: ValpoHoops on January 10, 2016, 07:18:07 PM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on January 10, 2016, 07:15:05 PM
I think I would give Tevonn the edge of Peters for player of the week. Both deserve it. Perhaps co-player of the week?
Agreed on Tevonn. In the "feature" game of the week, the ESPN game, he made big shot after big shot. Alec will get plenty of awards.
Not to diminish TW's contributions, but I don't I don't think you relegate the guy who averages 27 PPG, 13 RPG, and sets our all-time single game scoring record to "also received votes." The last thing I want the HL office to take into account is how many awards specific players have gotten in the past or might get in the future. That would take an already somewhat subjective process to a whole new level of subjectivity.
Agreed. Each team nominates one player. Alec will get the nomination and the award.
From the UDM bb website game recap:
39 points by Valparaiso* was the most by an opponent since Negele Knight had 42 for Dayton on Feb. 24, 1990...
*Should be "Valparaiso's Alec Peters"
Quote from: hailcrusaders on January 10, 2016, 02:13:56 PMRefs went a little crazy with the whistles in the second half.
Titans fans were heckling them with 20 seconds to go: "C'mon ref, 20 seconds left. Plenty of time to call more fouls!"
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 09, 2016, 11:18:17 AM
As mentioned, let's separate the Oakland/Detroit game. Titans bring different challenges. Big question, will the Crusaders be mentally prepared after a ESPN2 game at Oakland? The commissioner wrote a good piece on their blog and is worth reading. I will be catching a 6am flight from Tulsa and will be at the game in Detroit. Not too many direct flights from Tulsa but Detroit is one of them and after last nights game, I'm very excited. And I've always wanted to see a game at Mercy. Hope standby can get a seat and hope our guys are focused with a good game plan.
The sagarin line has the good guys as 9 point favorites.
You and I are pictured in the Detroit Free Press: http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/4ccd6724e4a4e07e6b254e3a0c1f44ce918d063d/c=516-0-4602-3072&r=x408&c=540x405/local/-/media/2016/01/10/DetroitFreePress/DetroitFreePress/635880420986939720-DF2-6022.JPG (http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/4ccd6724e4a4e07e6b254e3a0c1f44ce918d063d/c=516-0-4602-3072&r=x408&c=540x405/local/-/media/2016/01/10/DetroitFreePress/DetroitFreePress/635880420986939720-DF2-6022.JPG)
haha, good times.
I wish our game against CSU @ the Q was on a weekend, I would fly up again.
Detroit actually created a "Ray needs to be replaced" topic on their forum.
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 12, 2016, 10:01:22 AM
Detroit actually created a "Ray needs to be replaced" topic on their forum.
Actually says "McCollum Needs to Be Replaced"
Whoever that guy is...
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