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Title: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: talksalot on January 24, 2016, 06:06:06 PM
Never too early to start a thread...

Cleveland State - Crusader Classic Night (1986-1995) in the ARC

Vikings coming in... with HL wins over UIC (by 17) and Northern Kentucky (by 5)...but lost to Youngstown State by 15.... their road wins this year:

Northern Kentucky (#278) 70-65
Loyola Chicago (#264) 60-54

Here's the recap on the YST game:
http://csuvikings.com/sports/m-baskbl/2015-16/releases/20160124ml5wat (http://csuvikings.com/sports/m-baskbl/2015-16/releases/20160124ml5wat)

Here's the Box Score (Note:  'Guins out-rebounded them, and they shot 35%)
http://csuvikings.com/sports/m-baskbl/2015-16/boxscores/20160124_irn2.xml (http://csuvikings.com/sports/m-baskbl/2015-16/boxscores/20160124_irn2.xml)

They actually posted video highlights of that game...
http://csuvikings.com/sports/m-baskbl/2015-16/videos/012416_MBB_YSU_CSU (http://csuvikings.com/sports/m-baskbl/2015-16/videos/012416_MBB_YSU_CSU)
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: hailcrusaders on January 24, 2016, 07:00:45 PM
CSU is down there with UIC this year to battle for the 9 seed. I know it's on the road, but I'm expecting a blowout.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on January 24, 2016, 07:04:19 PM
Quote from: hailcrusaders on January 24, 2016, 07:00:45 PM
CSU is down there with UIC this year to battle for the 9 seed. I know it's on the road, but I'm expecting a blowout.
Game is at home for Valpo.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: HC on January 24, 2016, 07:23:56 PM
I'm just excited for another home game! Imagine how good CSU could've been if their guys weren't so eager to leave. They'd have been right at that top with Valpo (and Wright State). I always wondered why Waters didn't have those teams the past few years play at a more up tempo pace. He had some very good guards and some decent athletes. Oh well. Should be a relatively easy win.

Valpo 80-56 winners.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: valpotx on January 25, 2016, 11:10:41 AM
Valpo 81
CSU 63
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: talksalot on January 25, 2016, 11:44:53 AM
Roster - Same Starting 5 for all 8 HL games this year...

1   Andre Yates     G   Jr.   6-2   185   Dayton, Ohio / Dayton Dunbar (Creighton), 10 ppg, 63% FT, 2 reb/gm, 2 assists/gm
3   Rob Edwards     G   Fr.   6-4   200   Detroit, Mich. / Cass Tech, 12.5 ppg, 70% FT, 4 reb/gm, 1.6 asst/gm
11   Terrell Hales     G   So.   6-4   185   Detroit, Mich. / Frederic Douglass, 2 ppg, 50% FT, 2.4 reb/gm, 1.4 asst/gm
33   Demonte Flannigan F   Jr.   6-7   240   Richmond Heights, Ohio / Villa Angela-St. Joseph, 10 ppg, 66% FT, 20 blocks on season
41   Vinny Zollo     F   Sr.   6-8   230   Greenfield, Ohio / George Rogers Clark (NW Florida State JC), 6.4 ppg 72%

Off the bench by minutes-played
5   Jibri Blount   F   Fr.   6-7   220   Pittsburgh, Pa. / St. Vincent-St. Mary
4   Kenny Carpenter   G   So.   6-4   180   Detroit, Mich. / Cass Tech
31   Nelson Maxwell   G   Fr.   6-0   170   Orange Village, Ohio / Orange (Fishburne Academy)

Vashil has 50 blocks on the season.  Cleveland State has 52.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: HC on January 25, 2016, 11:51:37 AM
You all at the scorers table need to help Vashil out a bit and inflate those block stats to make up for the bogus block numbers these other schools are giving him.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: covufan on January 25, 2016, 03:07:38 PM
CSU is having a down year, but we should have learned not to underestimate our HL opponents.

Valpo  72
CSU    43
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: VUfan on January 25, 2016, 03:21:55 PM
CSU has always Played hard and will leave you Bruised Bring your A game and the Doc!
VU 66 CSU 54 
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: hailcrusaders on January 25, 2016, 03:36:48 PM
Quote from: a3uge on January 24, 2016, 07:04:19 PM
Quote from: hailcrusaders on January 24, 2016, 07:00:45 PMCSU is down there with UIC this year to battle for the 9 seed. I know it's on the road, but I'm expecting a blowout.
Game is at home for Valpo.

My bad, misread the schedule. All the more reason to expect a lopsided score.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: VU75 on January 25, 2016, 07:54:45 PM
Found this  wonderfully honest comment in the Blue Ribbon Yearbook.  It's Gary Waters on losing Bryn Forbes last year and Trey Lewis and Anton Grady this year to the graduate transfer rule.


I'm not going to give them extra (scholarship money) in the summer with classes like I did before.  The last four years we've been in the top 10 percentile of the APR.  We have really put education first.  We've been able to live it and also live it on the hardwood.  But if kids leave, the hardwood is suffering.  If they stay because they're following the graduation process through the fourth year , the hardwood continues."



Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on January 26, 2016, 08:54:08 AM
One thing to watch for: Darien Walker has actually shot really well in conference so far. He's really turned around his season after getting yanked from the starting lineup. He's shot 51.7% from 3 in conference - and this is after his 0-4 game against NKU (he was 60% prior to that game). Darien also has only 5 turnovers in 8 conference games. He has the 2nd best ORtg in conference as well.

On the flip side, Tevonn has been rather pedestrian in conference play. 7th in offensive rating and only shooting 26.7% from 3pt. Hopefully a home game vs a bad team may get him going again.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: vu72 on January 26, 2016, 09:28:04 AM
Quote from: a3uge on January 26, 2016, 08:54:08 AM
One thing to watch for: Darien Walker has actually shot really well in conference so far. He's really turned around his season after getting yanked from the starting lineup. He's shot 51.7% from 3 in conference - and this is after his 0-4 game against NKU (he was 60% prior to that game). Darien also has only 5 turnovers in 8 conference games. He has the 2nd best ORtg in conference as well.

On the flip side, Tevonn has been rather pedestrian in conference play. 7th in offensive rating and only shooting 26.7% from 3pt. Hopefully a home game vs a bad team may get him going again.

Clearly the Tevonn of the pre-season isn't the one playing now. His defense is fantastic but the mid-range jumper displayed earlier as well as his 3 point shots have fallen off.  It is a confidence thing, no doubt.  As with Darien, once he starts hitting a few thing will change.  Heck, even Alec has his off nights.  I still am not very thrilled with Darien always trying to force the play to the hoop and getting called for offensive fouls when he could have pulled it back and run something better.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: valpotx on January 26, 2016, 10:23:01 AM
I completely forgot that Grady left for Wichita State as well!  Wow, Cleveland State had three top quality players on their roster recently, but still did not win the league.  You have a main contributor at Michigan State, Louisville, and Wichita State, but I guess that the rest of the team was crap.  It makes you wonder where many of our players could play next year, if they decided to transfer. 
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: talksalot on January 27, 2016, 10:31:23 AM
CSU Game Notes .pdf

http://static.psbin.com/u/n/d1c0ujluxrimtp/MBB_Rel_012816.pdf (http://static.psbin.com/u/n/d1c0ujluxrimtp/MBB_Rel_012816.pdf)

•    The CSU staff will wear sneakers with their suits on Thursday
night at Valparaiso and on Saturday at UIC to help raise awareness
about the fight against cancer.

FOR THREE:
•    CSU has hit a three-pointer in a school-record 556 straight games.
•    The Vikings have hit at least three three's in 105 straight games.
•    The last time CSU failed to make a three-pointer was Feb. 21, 1998, when the Vikings were 0-for-8 in a 60-57 win over Detroit.
•    A total of 11 different players for CSU have hit a three-pointer this year, tying the CSU single season record for most players with at least one three-pointer in a season.

[Note:  Valpo also has 11 different players with a three:  Peters, TWalker,Carter, Hammink, DWalker, DSkara, Adekoya, Nickerson, Davidson, Williams, Joseph.... Only Vashil and Chandler do not...neither has taken a 3-point shot all year.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 27, 2016, 12:08:26 PM
Quote from: talksalot on January 27, 2016, 10:31:23 AMCSU has hit a three-pointer in a school-record 556 straight games.
•    The Vikings have hit at least three three's in 105 straight games.
•    The last time CSU failed to make a three-pointer was Feb. 21, 1998, when the Vikings were 0-for-8 in a 60-57 win over Detroit.

Huh.  That's kind of a random thing to keep track of.  I figure most mid-major teams (most teams?) have the three-point shot as a significant part of their arsenal.  When you have average, say, 7 a game like Valpo often does it's maybe not too hard to build a long streak.

Still, 105 straight games at three or more is a lot.

Last time we had less than three was apparently at Green Bay last year, in a 51-50 loss.  (Also 2 in the win over Trinity International in the early part of the season.  Indeed, our low-3PM games are often against top, or bottom, competition.  Trinity Christian (4), Oregon State (4), Rhode Island (3) this year.)

I'm a little curious when last we had 0 3PM.  But not curious enough to check all the box scores.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: Pgmado on January 27, 2016, 01:32:49 PM
Quote from: agibson on January 27, 2016, 12:08:26 PM
I'm a little curious when last we had 0 3PM.  But not curious enough to check all the box scores.

Akron. Nov. 14, 2011. 0-14 3PFG. Won 62-59.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 27, 2016, 01:34:14 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on January 27, 2016, 01:32:49 PM
Quote from: agibson on January 27, 2016, 12:08:26 PM
I'm a little curious when last we had 0 3PM.  But not curious enough to check all the box scores.

Akron. Nov. 14, 2011. 0-14 3PFG. Won 62-59.


Nice.

0 for 14 at the ARC with even Rowdy 0 for 3.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: talksalot on January 27, 2016, 04:34:02 PM
so..... How Many Games Ago was that?
this year:  21
2014-15: 34
2013-14: 34
2012-13: 34
2011-12...the Akron game was #4 of the season... so 30

total:  153... to make ONE... the CSU string of 105 is of making at least 3 in a game!! Now I'm dutifully impressed.



BTW, that Akron game was the first HOME D1 game with Bryce as head coach... just sayin'

Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: wh on January 27, 2016, 05:16:43 PM
Guess on attendance 3500. Anticipated excuses:
•week night game
•students studying
•cold outside
•Presidential debate on TV
•bad opponent
•bad marketing
•seating too close to the action
•concessions too inexpensive
•free parking not as convenient as it once was
•growing local/regional population, so we shouldn't expect crowds to be as large as we used to have
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: VULB#62 on January 27, 2016, 05:31:45 PM
Quote from: wh on January 27, 2016, 05:16:43 PM
Guess on attendance 3500. Anticipated excuses:
•week night game
•students studying
•cold outside
•Presidential debate on TV
•bad opponent
•bad marketing
(1) •seating too close to the action
•concessions too inexpensive
(2) free parking not as convenient as it once was
(3) growing local/regional population, so we shouldn't expect crowds to be as large as we used to have

:o
(1) People usually kill to get close to the action.  The ARC is great for that.
(2) FREE!!!!  Let me repeat that.... FREE!!!!
(3) More people.  If even 1% of the newbies think about going to a LOCAL DIV I VU BB game, that's MORE people than before.

Can I add "College athletics are sooooo NOT PC anymore"?

;D

Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: wh on January 27, 2016, 06:33:15 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on January 27, 2016, 05:31:45 PM
Quote from: wh on January 27, 2016, 05:16:43 PM
Guess on attendance 3500. Anticipated excuses:
•week night game
•students studying
•cold outside
•Presidential debate on TV
•bad opponent
•bad marketing
(1) •seating too close to the action
•concessions too inexpensive
(2) free parking not as convenient as it once was
(3) growing local/regional population, so we shouldn't expect crowds to be as large as we used to have

:o
(1) People usually kill to get close to the action.  The ARC is great for that.
(2) FREE!!!!  Let me repeat that.... FREE!!!!
(3) More people.  If even 1% of the newbies think about going to a LOCAL DIV I VU BB game, that's MORE people than before.

Can I add "College athletics are sooooo NOT PC anymore"?

;D



The area population bullet was a little spoof on a post from an earlier discussion about attendance, where the poster said the population isn't big enough to support crowds of 4-5000. It's a way of asking why attendance is < the early years after '98 when the population is >. Crowds >4000 used to be commonplace. And, no the reason isn't because of the way they used to estimate. I was a regular then, and I'm a regular now. I know what my eyes tell me when I see all empty seats that used to be filled.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on January 27, 2016, 08:22:26 PM
Quote from: wh on January 27, 2016, 06:33:15 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on January 27, 2016, 05:31:45 PM
Quote from: wh on January 27, 2016, 05:16:43 PM
Guess on attendance 3500. Anticipated excuses:
•week night game
•students studying
•cold outside
•Presidential debate on TV
•bad opponent
•bad marketing
(1) •seating too close to the action
•concessions too inexpensive
(2) free parking not as convenient as it once was
(3) growing local/regional population, so we shouldn't expect crowds to be as large as we used to have

:o
(1) People usually kill to get close to the action.  The ARC is great for that.
(2) FREE!!!!  Let me repeat that.... FREE!!!!
(3) More people.  If even 1% of the newbies think about going to a LOCAL DIV I VU BB game, that's MORE people than before.

Can I add "College athletics are sooooo NOT PC anymore"?

;D



The area population bullet was a little spoof on a post from an earlier discussion about attendance, where the poster said the population isn't big enough to support crowds of 4-5000. It's a way of asking why attendance is < the early years after '98 when the population is >. Crowds >4000 used to be commonplace. And, no the reason isn't because of the way they used to estimate. I was a regular then, and I'm a regular now. I know what my eyes tell me when I see all empty seats that used to be filled.
Last time you posted essentially the same thing and there were 4939 fans in attendance.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: wh on January 27, 2016, 08:50:57 PM
Attendance and atmosphere were awesome at the last game. Unfortunately, it's the first game this year where the ARC was really rocking the way we all know it can. When you consider our record, our reputation over the past 4 or 5 years, recent NCAA appearances, and the Bryce Drew connection having been home town hero in high school and college, the ARC should be the place to be on game nights - but sadly that's not the currently reality. It used to be.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: vu72 on January 27, 2016, 08:56:36 PM
Quote from: wh on January 27, 2016, 08:50:57 PM
Attendance and atmosphere were awesome at the last game. Unfortunately, it's the first game this year where the ARC was really rocking the way we all know it can. When you consider our record, our reputation over the past 4 or 5 years, recent NCAA appearances, and the Bryce Drew connection having been home town hero in high school and college, the ARC should be the place to be on game nights - but sadly that's not the currently reality. It used to be.

I was just watching Wichita State playing a very bad Loyola team at home. The place was packed.  Unfortunately there are more options for Valpo residents then those languishing in Wichita.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: justducky on January 27, 2016, 10:08:56 PM
Quote from: wh on January 27, 2016, 05:16:43 PMGuess on attendance 3500.
That guess might be little low but I don't see a crowd of over 3800. Hope I am wrong.

If Waters had Forbes, Lewis, Grady and a top notch RPI this might have been a weeknight near sell out.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: historyman on January 27, 2016, 10:29:35 PM
Quote from: vu72 on January 27, 2016, 08:56:36 PM
Quote from: wh on January 27, 2016, 08:50:57 PM
Attendance and atmosphere were awesome at the last game. Unfortunately, it's the first game this year where the ARC was really rocking the way we all know it can. When you consider our record, our reputation over the past 4 or 5 years, recent NCAA appearances, and the Bryce Drew connection having been home town hero in high school and college, the ARC should be the place to be on game nights - but sadly that's not the currently reality. It used to be.

I was just watching Wichita State playing a very bad Loyola team at home. The place was packed.  Unfortunately there are more options for Valpo residents then those languishing in Wichita.


Really?
Does Valpo have............
Old Cowtown Museum
Mid-America All Indian Center
Kansas African American Museum
Wichita Gardens (botanical)
Wichita-Sedgwick County Historical Museum
Exploration Place (science and engineering)
Wichita Symphony Orchestra
Ballet Wichita
CityArts (art gallery)
Coutts Museum of Art
Mosley Street Melodrama (dinner theater)
Music Theater Wichita
Orpheum Theater
Great Plains Nature Center
100 city parks
Sedgwick County Zoo
Tanganyika Wildlife Park
Rock River Rapids (water park)
5 shopping malls
Wichita Thunder (ice hockey)
Wichita Wingnuts (baseball)
Wichita State and Friends Universities
more golf courses
more movie theaters
etc.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on January 27, 2016, 10:34:56 PM
Back to the game. Valpo favored by 20.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: talksalot on January 28, 2016, 08:56:02 AM
Something else to shoot for tonight... -

Points per Game Allowed...

1.   Arkansas-Little Rock   58.7 - at home to GaSouthern, Favored by 15, with OU at 133
2.   Saint Mary's College   59.5
3.   Louisville   60.0
4.   San Diego State   60.2
5.   Old Dominion   61.6 - at Florida Atlantic, favored by 7 with an OU at 121
5.   Villanova   61.6
7.   Wichita State   61.89474  (1,176 allowed in 19 games)
8.   Virginia   61.90000 (1,238 allowed in 20 games)
9.   Valparaiso   61.94373 (1,177 allowed in 19 games)
10.   Purdue   62.1

Yes, Valpo is favored by 20... and the OU at 124.5... so 72-52 would help us move up in this poll...

Villanova and Old Dominion have both allowed 1,233 points in 20 games... if CSU scores 56 tonight, we will tie those two schools with the same total over 20 D-1 Games.

Aren't Stats FUN???
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: hailcrusaders on January 28, 2016, 10:26:52 AM
Quote from: historyman on January 27, 2016, 10:29:35 PM
Quote from: vu72 on January 27, 2016, 08:56:36 PM
Quote from: wh on January 27, 2016, 08:50:57 PM
Attendance and atmosphere were awesome at the last game. Unfortunately, it's the first game this year where the ARC was really rocking the way we all know it can. When you consider our record, our reputation over the past 4 or 5 years, recent NCAA appearances, and the Bryce Drew connection having been home town hero in high school and college, the ARC should be the place to be on game nights - but sadly that's not the currently reality. It used to be.

I was just watching Wichita State playing a very bad Loyola team at home. The place was packed.  Unfortunately there are more options for Valpo residents then those languishing in Wichita.


Really?
Does Valpo have............
Old Cowtown Museum
Mid-America All Indian Center
Kansas African American Museum
Wichita Gardens (botanical)
Wichita-Sedgwick County Historical Museum
Exploration Place (science and engineering)
Wichita Symphony Orchestra
Ballet Wichita
CityArts (art gallery)
Coutts Museum of Art
Mosley Street Melodrama (dinner theater)
Music Theater Wichita
Orpheum Theater
Great Plains Nature Center
100 city parks
Sedgwick County Zoo
Tanganyika Wildlife Park
Rock River Rapids (water park)
5 shopping malls
Wichita Thunder (ice hockey)
Wichita Wingnuts (baseball)
Wichita State and Friends Universities
more golf courses
more movie theaters
etc.

I believe 72 was being sarcastic (?). Anyway, the Wingnuts are out of season  ;)
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 28, 2016, 11:35:00 AM
Quote from: talksalot on January 28, 2016, 08:56:02 AM
Something else to shoot for tonight... -

Aren't Stats FUN???

We're back down to #2 in KenPom defense, so we could try to bolster that tonight too.  But, might be tough.  Cleveland State is rated _very_ poorly in offense, #318.

A really quick and dirty crunching of he KenPom numbers suggests that we might have to beat the spread to have a shot at improving our numbers.  (I guess that's no surprise.)
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on January 28, 2016, 11:52:46 AM
Quote from: talksalot on January 28, 2016, 08:56:02 AM
Something else to shoot for tonight... -

Points per Game Allowed...

1.   Arkansas-Little Rock   58.7 - at home to GaSouthern, Favored by 15, with OU at 133
2.   Saint Mary's College   59.5
3.   Louisville   60.0
4.   San Diego State   60.2
5.   Old Dominion   61.6 - at Florida Atlantic, favored by 7 with an OU at 121
5.   Villanova   61.6
7.   Wichita State   61.89474  (1,176 allowed in 19 games)
8.   Virginia   61.90000 (1,238 allowed in 20 games)
9.   Valparaiso   61.94373 (1,177 allowed in 19 games)
10.   Purdue   62.1

Yes, Valpo is favored by 20... and the OU at 124.5... so 72-52 would help us move up in this poll...

Villanova and Old Dominion have both allowed 1,233 points in 20 games... if CSU scores 56 tonight, we will tie those two schools with the same total over 20 D-1 Games.

Aren't Stats FUN???
Super impressive considering that we've played the #2 (UWGB), #5 (Detroit), #8 (Oakland), #21 (Belmont), and #25 (Chicago St) fastest paced teams. Iona and YSU are also top 50.

Valpo is also #1 in defensive rating.

CSU is a mess. They're 339th in ppg, in part thanks to attempting the fewest free throws of all Horizon League teams and playing at a slow pace.  They're the 22nd slowest in the country, but still are 302nd in ORtg, which is bad. They shoot bad too... 306th in fg%. It's hard to find something they do well.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on January 28, 2016, 12:21:01 PM
Line has moved to 20.5!
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: Kyle321n on January 28, 2016, 12:50:35 PM
Quote from: a3uge on January 28, 2016, 11:52:46 AM
CSU is a mess. They're 339th in ppg, in part thanks to attempting the fewest free throws of all Horizon League teams and playing at a slow pace.  They're the 22nd slowest in the country, but still are 302nd in ORtg, which is bad. They shoot bad too... 306th in fg%. It's hard to find something they do well.

They are 82nd in block % allowed, so they don't get their shots blocked. They're 85th in Turnover % so they get some turnovers on defense. And the thing they are best at... Free Throw defense. Opponents shoot 66.9% and are 61st in the country.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on January 28, 2016, 01:12:48 PM
Quote from: Kyle321n on January 28, 2016, 12:50:35 PM
Quote from: a3uge on January 28, 2016, 11:52:46 AM
CSU is a mess. They're 339th in ppg, in part thanks to attempting the fewest free throws of all Horizon League teams and playing at a slow pace.  They're the 22nd slowest in the country, but still are 302nd in ORtg, which is bad. They shoot bad too... 306th in fg%. It's hard to find something they do well.

They are 82nd in block % allowed, so they don't get their shots blocked. They're 85th in Turnover % so they get some turnovers on defense. And the thing they are best at... Free Throw defense. Opponents shoot 66.9% and are 61st in the country.
It's probably from the picture of creepy fans hanging on the curtain at the Wolstein Center. Must be pretty distracting.

Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: humbleopinion on January 28, 2016, 01:16:39 PM

[/quote]
It's probably from the picture of creepy fans hanging on the curtain at the Wolstein Center. Must be pretty distracting.


[/quote]


I've never liked that backdrop and wondered if it was responsible for our traditionally poor shooting nights when we play there.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: Kyle321n on January 28, 2016, 04:58:08 PM
Just checked it out, and we're the 58th best game being played today. There's 59 D1 games. By the second half it's going to be a  :snore: :snore:
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: wh on January 28, 2016, 05:29:57 PM
Quote from: wh on January 27, 2016, 05:16:43 PM
Guess on attendance 3500. Anticipated excuses:
•week night game
•students studying
•cold outside
•Presidential debate on TV
•bad opponent
•bad marketing
•seating too close to the action
•concessions too inexpensive
•free parking not as convenient as it once was
•growing local/regional population, so we shouldn't expect crowds to be as large as we used to have

Whoops, I missed one - it started snowing a few minutes ago. Never mind that it's not sticking.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: Chairback on January 28, 2016, 06:55:41 PM
If I remember correctly didn't Vinny Zollo give the bird to the crowd last year?  Possibly to the student section. 
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 28, 2016, 07:01:44 PM
Quote from: wh on January 28, 2016, 05:29:57 PMWhoops, I missed one - it started snowing a few minutes ago. Never mind that it's not sticking.

Sticking on the grass!

Moderately ugly for walking or bicycling.  Roads aren't bad, but it's sleeting pretty good.  Not a great walk from the dorms.

Independent of the weather we'd decided that it wasn't worth going out for the first half (school night, kids to get to bed) tonight.

So, alas, I'm part of the problem. ESPN3 not working for me yet either... karma?
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 28, 2016, 07:09:39 PM
Quote from: agibson on January 28, 2016, 07:01:44 PMESPN3 not working for me yet either... karma?

Got it working... then it's "your event has ended".  Anyone else?
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: jloose128 on January 28, 2016, 07:10:21 PM
According to ESPN3, the event has ended...
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: VULB#62 on January 28, 2016, 07:13:00 PM
I got the first few minutes and then suddenly a screen came up that said the event was over.  Huh?  At least we were winning at the point.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 28, 2016, 07:15:16 PM
From SID Aaron, "ESPN has had issues with multiple conferences tonight - league is working with them".

tuneIn working OK from wvur.com.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: FWalum on January 28, 2016, 07:15:41 PM
Me to, I was getting the WVUR pregame on ESPN3 and found that unusual and then when the game was to start it said "Your Event Has Ended Thanks For Watching".
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 28, 2016, 07:16:01 PM
I guess I mean thesource95.com.

http://tunein.com/radio/The-Source-951-s23659/ (http://tunein.com/radio/The-Source-951-s23659/)
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 28, 2016, 07:21:03 PM
Quote from: FWalum on January 28, 2016, 07:15:41 PM
Me to, I was getting the WVUR pregame on ESPN3 and found that unusual and then when the game was to start it said "Your Event Has Ended Thanks For Watching".

I got a couple of minutes of very low quality video, and maybe a minute of decent.  Audio problems too.  Some of the trouble may have been on my end.

And now nothing on espn3, of course.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 28, 2016, 07:27:20 PM
Maybe a coordinated effort to drive a late-arriving crowd?

I'm at least considering going in for second half... But probably doesn't count in the box score attendance.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: FWalum on January 28, 2016, 07:27:36 PM
Thought I would listen to Todd and switch the video over to IPFW vs ORU. Watched for a few minutes and then the same thing happened to their game only it would go off and on every so often.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on January 28, 2016, 07:28:15 PM
Working fine finally for me. Where the hell are the students!?
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 28, 2016, 07:30:21 PM
One report on twitter that espn3's working.  Still down for me.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 28, 2016, 07:30:54 PM
Quote from: a3uge on January 28, 2016, 07:28:15 PM
Working fine finally for me. Where the hell are the students!?

Huh. Still nothing for me.

Sleet...
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 28, 2016, 07:32:30 PM
Reports on twitter are of intermittently working espn3 feeds...
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on January 28, 2016, 07:33:42 PM
Valpo shooting the three very well. But getting good looks
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 28, 2016, 07:35:51 PM
Now I'm getting commercials on ESPN3.  Local commercials...
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 28, 2016, 07:36:36 PM
Then good video... for 10 seconds.  Then "your event is ended".

On two different devices.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on January 28, 2016, 07:43:05 PM
I've been watching fine since 9:00. Not going to touch anything.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 28, 2016, 07:48:24 PM
I got solid video for the last 90 seconds of fame clock.  I guess I'll stay home...
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: bbtds on January 28, 2016, 07:56:12 PM
Will the Cleve State consecutive three 3s made record end tonight? The Vikings only hit 1 three in the 1st half.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 28, 2016, 07:56:26 PM
League reports all HL games are working on ESPN3.  OK for me for almost fifteen minutes, if a bit behind the radio (maybe just buffering).
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on January 28, 2016, 08:27:31 PM
Cmon guys. Sloppy couple of minutes in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 28, 2016, 08:56:56 PM
Hard to complain too much when you win by 20 (25?).
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 28, 2016, 09:30:13 PM
Todd gushing in the post-game about our conference rebounding stats.  And, it's true, no question.  They're mind boggling.

Luke's response, paraphrased, "Thanks.   But we've got a couple of boards a game to make up in the season-long stats.  And don't tell our players."

The scary thing is that Valpo's rebounding margin number's likely to continue to _improve_ (if our conference stats are any indication; with +17 in conference, +10 or so overall).  While most of the big guys ahead of us played cupcake schedules non-conference, and now have real opponents.

With some high tempo teams in conference, I don't know if we'll get too much higher than the current #5 or so on points allowed per game (unadjusted).   But, we're starting to show up on overall scoring margin, #19 at +12.6 on WarrenNolan, and that may continue to improve, again as some of the big boys see their numbers fall in conference.

Going to be hard to climb the home win streak ladder.  Just got to keep winning.  Currently number 9 at 23.  We may occasionally enter into a tie with some of the crowd ahead of us at 24 and 25.

I'm not holding my breath for Arizona, Kentucky, Kansas, or Maryland to lose at home.  Nor for Wichita State, South Dakota State, SFA, or UAB to lose at home in their conferences.  We'll see.  Could certainly happen.  They're not all going to run the table, even at home.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: ValpoHoops on January 28, 2016, 10:28:00 PM
Quote from: agibson on January 28, 2016, 09:30:13 PMI'm not holding my breath for Arizona...

Oregon 83, at Arizona 75 F
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: nkvu on January 28, 2016, 10:47:26 PM
A little concerned that T Walker has not found his shot for a while though it seems he is still dealing with toughest defensive assignment on the perimeter. Nice to see Hamink find  his three point shot at least for one game.  All in all a very workmanlike win for the team. Did Lexis seem a little more like his old self quickness wise at the end?   
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: vu72 on January 28, 2016, 10:53:51 PM
So what is up with Tevonn?  Tonight, only 16 minutes, 1 for 6 shooting, 1 asst, 1 to and 5 fouls.  Oh yeah, 3 points!  This is not the same kid we saw against  Oregon State.  What's up??
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: valpotx on January 28, 2016, 11:42:16 PM
The Walkers switched places.  Darien is now playing like his old self, and Tevonn has reverted a bit.  If we get both Walkers playing their best game, it won't be fair to our opposition.  I can't wait until we put a shellacking on Wright State at home...
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: oklahomamick on January 29, 2016, 12:24:40 AM
Lexus was playing without the knee brase
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: vusupporter on January 29, 2016, 01:20:34 AM
ESPN3 archive appears to be fine, in case anybody who wasn't able to watch due to their issues throughout the night wants to go back and watch.
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on January 29, 2016, 09:17:19 AM
Attendance: 2313 [emoji53]
Title: Re: 1/28 - Cleveland State @ the ARC
Post by: talksalot on January 29, 2016, 09:28:37 AM
that was gnarly driving home last night after the game...the salt trucks were out and about at the intersections, but the walking sure was treacherous...

ought to be a nice night on Saturday for Space Jam night!