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Title: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: VUSWIM08-12 on March 15, 2016, 11:18:50 PM
This will be a very tough game, curious too see what the line will open at. Bacon and Beasley will be tough to stop but with our team defense we can make it happen. Looking forward to this one, I liked the energy towards the end of the game tonight and if we bring that passion we win our 28th
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: VUSWIM08-12 on March 15, 2016, 11:21:19 PM
Check that math haha 41 hrs 39 minutes
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: a3uge on March 15, 2016, 11:24:07 PM
I hope Tevonn can play, if he's still alive.

Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: VUSWIM08-12 on March 15, 2016, 11:27:24 PM
Yes hopefully, was hoping to see him towards the end tonight...Also turns out I didn't graduate lol 42hrs 33 minutes...but I did...
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: HC on March 15, 2016, 11:29:51 PM
72-70 Valpo Victory in front of filled house
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: talksalot on March 15, 2016, 11:31:31 PM
Homer has a dilemma....

Baylor in Providence 1:30pm tip Thursday
Valpo in Valpo 6pm tip Thursday

I wonder if Janet has ever been to Providence?
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: agibson on March 15, 2016, 11:41:13 PM
Quote from: talksalot on March 15, 2016, 11:31:31 PM
Homer has a dilemma....

Baylor in Providence 1:30pm tip Thursday
Valpo in Valpo 6pm tip Thursday

I wonder if Janet has ever been to Providence?

Time difference, you probably -could- do both but it would take a charter, maybe ready to go at the airport.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: vufan75 on March 16, 2016, 12:04:33 AM
A link to FSU game tonite. Bacon and Beasley are FSU frosh to game plan for it appears.     http://www.seminoles.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=32900&ATCLID=210807497 (http://www.seminoles.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=32900&ATCLID=210807497)



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Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: rogerwilco on March 16, 2016, 12:14:30 AM
Any TV broadcast info for Thursday night's game?
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: agibson on March 16, 2016, 12:21:28 AM
Quote from: rogerwilco on March 16, 2016, 12:14:30 AM
Any TV broadcast info for Thursday night's game?

ESPN News. (Is the distribution about like ESPNU?)
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: agibson on March 16, 2016, 12:28:03 AM
Quote from: VUSWIM08-12 on March 15, 2016, 11:18:50 PMcurious too see what the line will open at.

Maybe Valpo by six? And most of that on the strength of home court advantage.

QuoteThis will be a very tough game

For sure. Feels like it might take an A, A-, worst B+ game from Valpo.

How long's it been since we've had one? Did we see one tonight? Assessment depends a lot on how much credit you want to give Texas Southern, I suppose.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: valpotx on March 16, 2016, 12:39:51 AM
They have some huge guys, but only one really plays.  The 7'3" Slovakian guy starts each game and plays 18 mpg, the 7'4" Chadian guy plays 6 mpg in 26 games, and the 7'1" Nigerian hasn't played in any games.  Based on the Slovak's numbers, my guess is that he is less athletic than Vashil on offense, and not as talented on defense.

Ending FSU's hopes in the second round of a postseason tourney for a second time:

Valpo 74
FSU 66

Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: VUSWIM08-12 on March 16, 2016, 12:46:55 AM
TSU is very athletic, and Mike Davis does a solid job it seems so I'll give them some credit...I think the line may be Valpo by only 1 or 2, we need all the fans we can get and like you said, agibson, at worst a B+ game...and I would say we had B performance tonight, maybe B+ when we figured out they could play...wish I was close enough to go to the ARC but alas a 14hr drive is too far  :'(
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: historyman on March 16, 2016, 01:53:01 AM
http://www.seminoles.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=32900&SPID=157128&SPSID=917093 (http://www.seminoles.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=32900&SPID=157128&SPSID=917093)


Click on the arrow next to the headline "Bacon leads Seminoles over Davidson, 84-74, to advance in NIT" for highlights of game against Davidson and Coach Hamilton and Seminole players' post game comments.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: historyman on March 16, 2016, 02:02:06 AM
FSU message board


https://floridastate.forums.rivals.com/forums/fsu-sports-message-board.30/ (https://floridastate.forums.rivals.com/forums/fsu-sports-message-board.30/)




It was a good win. Actually some of the best perimeter defense I've seen FSU play all season. Not near as many wide open threes--Davidson just did a nice job of hitting contested shots.
I'm worried Valpo blows our doors off, but perhaps our boys can rise to the occasion. I suspect we will be 4-6 point dogs.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: valpo84 on March 16, 2016, 07:47:25 AM
One of the best sources for all encompassing FSU information and some great people -- http://www.tomahawknation.com/ (http://www.tomahawknation.com/)
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: talksalot on March 16, 2016, 08:26:19 AM
Florida State Roster... the opposite of Texas Southern... T A L L !!!

http://www.seminoles.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=32900&SPID=157128&SPSID=917092 (http://www.seminoles.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=32900&SPID=157128&SPSID=917092)

Stats:

http://seminoles.com/fls/32900/pdf/MBB/Stats1.pdf (http://seminoles.com/fls/32900/pdf/MBB/Stats1.pdf)

only out-rebounding teams by 3.5/game

Box Score from the Davidson game

http://www.seminoles.com/liveStats/v2/basketball/index.dbml?GAME_STAT_ID=2633373&db_oem_id=32900 (http://www.seminoles.com/liveStats/v2/basketball/index.dbml?GAME_STAT_ID=2633373&db_oem_id=32900)


Starting lineup from the Davidson game (and most others)

F 6-8 229 SR Brandon
F 6-7 221 FR Bacon
C 7-3 248 SR Bojanovsky
G 6-5 196 FR Beasley
G 6-4 208 SO Rathan Mayes

and 31-minutes off the bench from 6-3 198 SR Guard Bookert

oh... and you Field of Dreams fans will know that Terance Mann (6-6 FR) is on their roster.... from Lowell Mass.




Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: VULB#62 on March 16, 2016, 09:01:37 AM
Quote from: valpo84 on March 16, 2016, 07:47:25 AM
One of the best sources for all encompassing FSU information and some great people -- http://www.tomahawknation.com/ (http://www.tomahawknation.com/)

Do ya think it is a football school or something?  There are articles on where offensive lineman get their pedicures and what candy bar DBs prefer (just kidding).  The BB articles are pretty analytical and critical. No punches pulled.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: talksalot on March 16, 2016, 09:07:57 AM
ESPN announcer Mark Adams (had our game last night and will be back tomorrow)...

I welcomed him to the ARC... he said he'd been here before (he did the NIU "Good Morning America" game) and he said he'd coached here against Homer (who schooled him in every game)... so I had to look that up...


Mark Adams is a college basketball analyst on the ESPN family of networks. Adams was previously head coach of the Central Connecticut Blue Devils from 1991 to 1996.

I'll bet he's glad to be out of there!   CCSU RPI #351 and falling!


Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: vu72 on March 16, 2016, 09:12:19 AM
Interesting take on our Crusaders:

https://chopchat.com/2016/03/16/nit-tournament-3-things-valparaiso-does-well/2/
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: crusaderjoe on March 16, 2016, 09:14:16 AM
Had a chuckle out of the "blowing the doors off" comment above.  I'll be shocked if this happens.  I think FSU can be very dangerous.  They beat Virginia, Notre Dame...gave Miami all they could handle up in Tally.  They are a decent team.  They are beatable though.  Glad this one got to stay at home.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: oklahomamick on March 16, 2016, 09:40:26 AM
This game will be on ESPN News?
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: talksalot on March 16, 2016, 09:42:57 AM
That's what we've been told... but the "guide" does not have that on there yet...

Attendance Comparison:

Valpo- Texas Southern 2,912
FSU-Davidson 2,496
St Marys-New Mexico State 1154




Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: vu72 on March 16, 2016, 09:43:26 AM
I just looked at the FSU/Davidson box score.  Some observations:  Davidson started guys 6'7, 6'8", 6'2" and two guys 6'0".  They were out rebounded  44 to 28 and lost by 10.  Davidson is a decent team and won some close games but also lost to Pitt by 25 and Cal by 26.  They beat Rhode Island at home by 11.

FSU is very big, as noted above. I suspect that we go big with Skara, Peters, Vashil, Hammink and Carter, which combined will be 18 inches taller than Davidson's starters!  :o   We should be able to keep up with them on the boards and being at home with FSU probably pretty tired having to get on a plane this morning, flying to Chicago, and busing to Valpo while our guys have two nights in their own beds.  We win this one by 6, 77-71
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: Kyle321n on March 16, 2016, 10:07:38 AM
Here's a look at the KenPom numbers for the match up. This is by far the best team we've had at the ARC in the Bryce era, second place being last year's GB team.

(http://s17.postimg.org/m8ns0bxkf/FSU_vs_VU.png)
(http://s17.postimg.org/eh721rtf3/FSU_vs_VU2.png)


As for the Seminoles, they are 11-4 at home, 5-2 on neutral courts and 4-7 in road games. This bode really well as their 4 wins are against Florida (#37 KenPom),  North Carolina St. (#83) Wake Forest (#134) and Boston College (#259, the UIC of the ACC). The rest of their road games were against an average KenPom rank of 32.1 but include #62 VaTech, #53 Clemson and #43 Syracuse. Dang if we were in the Atlantic coast region, we'd be a pretty solid addition for ACC basketball...

Their team plays significantly worse on the road than at home or even on neutral courts. They average 8 points less per game and give up 6 more points. They shoot 49.3% from the field at home and only 43.2% on the road and their 3P% dips 3.4%. There is a 5% drop in FT% and commit 3 more fouls per game. This is a really good team at home and average to below average on the road.

In conclusion, it's a great thing we were able to get the game being played on Thursday at the ARC instead of traveling to the Donald L. Tucker Center.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: covufan on March 16, 2016, 10:45:24 AM
This will be an evenly matched game - hopefully homercourt advantage will help!

Valpo   78
FSU      73
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: valpo84 on March 16, 2016, 10:58:13 AM
They're probably not used to playing in smaller gyms with fans on top of them, except that dilapidated gym in Durham ....
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: VULB#62 on March 16, 2016, 11:11:56 AM
Two things we can't afford to do that is kind of a trademark of this team over the course of the season:  Starting slow and, when holding a lead with 4 or so minutes in the game, taking the foot off the pedal and going into a shell.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: FWalum on March 16, 2016, 11:30:33 AM
Intangibles will play a HUGE roll in this game.  We need to be able to play with the same confidence we showed when playing Oregon and Oregon State.  They will not be intimidated nor will they have anything to lose. I am afraid that they will play loose and we, who have a lot to prove and expectations to live up to, will play tight. We can hope that they look down on VU, our Mid-Major conference and "high school" gym, not expecting us to play at their level (or hopefully above) and maybe we catch them off guard.  Need a big game from our unintimidated LSU transfer Hammink.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: talksalot on March 16, 2016, 11:35:21 AM
Quote from: valpo84 on March 16, 2016, 10:58:13 AMThey're probably not used to playing in smaller gyms with fans on top of them

They played 3 games in the VI "Sports and Fitness Center"... with a capacity of 3,500  but "cavernous" would describe the rest of the gyms....

Their game with VCU played in Atlanta only drew 1,786
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: agibson on March 16, 2016, 12:03:23 PM
Quote from: Kyle321n on March 16, 2016, 10:07:38 AMIn conclusion, it's a great thing we were able to get the game being played on Thursday at the ARC instead of traveling to the Donald L. Tucker Center.

Very interesting. It'll be fascinating to see if we can play like the home team, and if FSU really does struggle on the road. Or if, perhaps, they play like a "power conference" team and we play like a "non-power conference" team. And to see how much Tevonn plays, and how much we miss him.

They look like one of the tallest teams we've played this year (one of the few taller than us, if any others have been?). But don't seem to rebound especially well. Not sure if Ken Pom's rebound numbers there are raw, or adjusted for quality of opposition, etc.

Also one of the younger teams we've played this year. But Adam Amin claimed they had two of the best freshmen in college basketball.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: agibson on March 16, 2016, 12:09:26 PM
It's probably not going to help attendance that we tip off opposite specifically Indiana, and only shortly after Purdue conclude. And both in 12-5 games.

But, the ACC coming to the ARC! How can you miss it?

Should be a great crowd. Come one, come all!
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: agibson on March 16, 2016, 12:40:32 PM
A couple of so-so pieces on the game from the FSU practice.

http://chopchat.com/2016/03/15/nit-tournament-noles-face-valparaiso-in-second-round/ (http://chopchat.com/2016/03/15/nit-tournament-noles-face-valparaiso-in-second-round/)
https://chopchat.com/2016/03/16/nit-tournament-3-things-valparaiso-does-well/ (https://chopchat.com/2016/03/16/nit-tournament-3-things-valparaiso-does-well/)
and a bit in
http://chopchat.com/2016/03/14/fsu-basketball-path-to-2016-nit-quarterfinals/ (http://chopchat.com/2016/03/14/fsu-basketball-path-to-2016-nit-quarterfinals/)
including

Quote
It will not be an easy road if the chalk prevails. However, FSU basketball plays in arguably the best conference in the nation and is battle tested. The key to FSU winning will be the same as always:

Make Free Throws
Don't Turn The Ball Over
Crash The Boards
Play Defense With Passion

The 'Noles have talent on offense and can score points. If they can consistently do the four things mentioned, there's no reason why they can't make the quarterfinals of the NIT.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: wh on March 16, 2016, 12:44:14 PM
My daughter was at the ticket windows exactly at 9:00 this morning to purchase our tickets. She said there was a line 10 deep, a steady flow of people coming in as others were leaving, and the phones were ringing off the hook. She was expressing frustration because she was running late for work, while I was on the other end of the phone smiling and thinking there's a much bigger story here. lol
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: agibson on March 16, 2016, 01:00:42 PM
Things seem to be selling well, much more briskly than for Texas Southern.

It'll change when they release season tickets, but at the moment chairbacks G, H, and I have nothing available. Only singles in B and C downstairs bleachers, and upstairs CC is off to a good start.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: oklahomamick on March 16, 2016, 01:17:33 PM
Totally over doing it but it would be awesome if they brought bleachers to put behind the north basket as they did during the HL championship games and we will able to feel it up.  Imagine the same environment as last years championship game. 
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: vu72 on March 16, 2016, 02:03:29 PM
Quote from: agibson on March 16, 2016, 01:00:42 PM
Things seem to be selling well, much more briskly than for Texas Southern.

It'll change when they release season tickets, but at the moment chairbacks G, H, and I have nothing available. Only singles in B and C downstairs bleachers, and upstairs CC is off to a good start.

Now a total of 20 seats available in chairbacks and 106 in the lower bleachers, 66 of which are in A. Upstairs nothing really gone other than in CC.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: agibson on March 16, 2016, 02:40:26 PM
Steady trickle again at the ARC this afternoon, about like Monday.

One couple asked for tickets to the middle school tournament!
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: valpotx on March 16, 2016, 03:05:37 PM
I hope that it is a packed house.  We packed the house for the women's team WNIT quarterfinal game many years ago against Houston.  People will come out if we can continue to win in this tournament (at least for another game).
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: VUOR63 on March 16, 2016, 04:21:46 PM
So, Florida State has to come to the ARC on short rest?  Valpo is certainly at an advantage here and I hope Valpo's men can teach the Florida State boys a thing or two tomorrow night.  I'll be watching this game and not the NCAA tourney.

Go Crusaders!
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: ValpoHoops on March 16, 2016, 08:01:54 PM
Line opens at Valpo -4
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: bmlvu97 on March 16, 2016, 10:25:53 PM
Looking forward to a good evening and a hell of a game...bought my ticket and will be driving in for the game...

Valpo 73
FSU 71

Brian
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: VULB#62 on March 17, 2016, 07:58:23 AM
We always remember the "Shot" but not so much the game that got Valpo to the Sweet 16 in 1998.

(FROM GAME NOTES) Thursday marks just the second meeting in program history between Valparaiso and Florida State, but the only other matchup was a special one in Crusader lore, as Valpo downed the Seminoles in overtime, 83-77, to advance to the Sweet Sixteen of the 1998 NCAA Tournament. Bill Jenkins split a pair of free throws with 30.5 seconds to play to send the game to overtime, where the Crusaders out-scored FSU, 8-2. Bryce Drew led four Valpo players in double figures with 22 points, while Kerry Thompson and Randell Jackson paced the Seminoles with 16 points each.

No OT this time, OK?
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: vu72 on March 17, 2016, 08:21:08 AM
Quote from: agibson on March 16, 2016, 12:21:28 AM
Quote from: rogerwilco on March 16, 2016, 12:14:30 AM
Any TV broadcast info for Thursday night's game?

ESPN News. (Is the distribution about like ESPNU?)


We seem to be getting little respect from ESPN.  We are a 1 seed and so far we have been on ESPN3 and ESPN News????  ???
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: crusaderjoe on March 17, 2016, 08:58:09 AM
IIRC, we wore our home white uniforms against FSU in '98 even though we were the lower seed.  I assume we'll wear the home whites tonight too.  Should be a good omen.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: agibson on March 17, 2016, 09:58:24 AM
Quote from: vu72 on March 17, 2016, 08:21:08 AMWe seem to be getting little respect from ESPN.  We are a 1 seed and so far we have been on ESPN3 and ESPN News? 

I don't know about ESPN3, or why we had the late tip. But, I'm guessing that ESPN News (and even the early tip?) has something do with the Thursday game. I might imagine that ESPN had some times blocked out for second round games. I doubt any of those were on Thursday. I'm often frustrated by scheduling decisions, relegating events I care about to tertiary networks and showing bass fishing, or monster truck reruns, or some such on the primary and secondary networks. But, this time, maybe it was part of the package that let us keep a home game.  *shrug*

I do feel bad for those that might get caught without access. I've not tried ESPN News, but streaming access for ESPNU programs is generally blacked out unless your TV package includes ESPNU.

For the cogniscenti and the passionate there's always Todd on streaming radio.

For anyone within driving distance, I'll see you at the ARC!
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: FWalum on March 17, 2016, 10:08:00 AM
Quote from: agibson on March 17, 2016, 09:58:24 AMFor anyone within driving distance, I'll see you at the ARC!
Yes you will!  Since I had planned my trip to the LBAA National Tournament, this game has become an unexpected added bonus.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: fsu1mikeg on March 17, 2016, 10:09:16 AM
FSU fan and '94 grad here.  I was there during the Charlie Ward/Sam Cassell/Bob Sura/Doug Edwards/Rodney Dobard years.  This team will NOT remind you of those teams.  We have two very talented freshmen who lead us in scoring.  Dwayne Bacon was a McDonald's AA and Malik Beasley was not far behind.  We have good size, but are not a physical team.  Boris Bojanovsky is 7'3" and 248 lbs.  He can block shots, but is weak physically and can be bullied in the paint.  Jarquez Smith is a 6'9" 4 who plays center out of necessity.  He is very athletic, but also on the finesse side.  He comes in to spell Boris after the first couple of minutes or when Boris picks up a quick foul.  Jarquez has come on a bit lately, but is not really a guy you have to plan for.  Our two most physical bigs missed all or most of the year, so it's been a bit of patchwork in the frontcourt.  Senior Montay Brandon starts at the four, but he's really a big guard.  He actually started his FSU career at point guard.  He's played all over and is a solid rotation guy, but doesn't score and has trouble finishing near the rim.  He'll likely play 20 minutes and accumulate almost nothing in the stat sheet.  Terrance Mann is another talented freshmen who has been playing more as the season's gone on.  He's a big guard, but also plays the four out of necessity at times.  He's an energy guy.  Our point guard is Xavier Rathan-Mayes.  He's a converted two who is capable of putting up big scoring nights, but has been disappointing this year.  Last year he made a name for himself by scoring 30 points in five minutes against UNC in a game we lost in OT.  He also had a crazy scoring binge in another loss.  Expect ESPN commentators to reference this, as he's been living off that since.  Senior guard Devon Bookert has been the heart and soul of the team this year.  He's not big or a great athlete, but he's a deadly set shooter and can light it up from deep.  He's also a good hustle guy and will jump passing lanes for steals.  So we've got a couple of NBA caliber athletes (Bacon and Beasley) and some decent role players.  Coach Leonard Hamilton is known as a great defensive coach, but defense has been our Achilles Heel this year.  When we defend with energy, we can beat anyone.  But we've had games where teams can drive on us at will for layups and we're slow to rotate on the perimeter, leaving guys wide open for easy threes.  Offensively, we want to run at every opportunity.  Bacon and Beasley are deadly in transition.  We struggle in the half court, and especially against zone defenses.  I think that about covers it.  I'm hoping for an upset, but I think you guys will win this one at home and end our season.  Here's to a good, clean, exciting game.

Mike
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: VULB#62 on March 17, 2016, 10:10:12 AM
Quote from: FWalum on March 17, 2016, 10:08:00 AM
Quote from: agibson on March 17, 2016, 09:58:24 AMFor anyone within driving distance, I'll see you at the ARC!
Yes you will!  Since I had planned my trip to the LBAA National Tournament, this game has become an unexpected added bonus.  :thumbsup:

Ya gonna skip the opening convocation? :-X
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: VULB#62 on March 17, 2016, 10:17:30 AM
Quote from: agibson on March 17, 2016, 09:58:24 AM
Quote from: vu72 on March 17, 2016, 08:21:08 AMWe seem to be getting little respect from ESPN.  We are a 1 seed and so far we have been on ESPN3 and ESPN News? 

I don't know about ESPN3, or why we had the late tip. But, I'm guessing that ESPN News (and even the early tip?) has something do with the Thursday game. I might imagine that ESPN had some times blocked out for second round games. I doubt any of those were on Thursday. I'm often frustrated by scheduling decisions, relegating events I care about to tertiary networks and showing bass fishing, or monster truck reruns, or some such on the primary and secondary networks. But, this time, maybe it was part of the package that let us keep a home game.  *shrug*

I do feel bad for those that might get caught without access. I've not tried ESPN News, but streaming access for ESPNU programs is generally blacked out unless your TV package includes ESPNU.

For the cogniscenti and the passionate there's always Todd on streaming radio.

For anyone within driving distance, I'll see you at the ARC!

ESPN-wise, it appears that we are the only MBB game on their network of options. ESPN3 is carrying WNIT and WBI WBB games.  NCAA is basically all over TBS and CBS.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: FWalum on March 17, 2016, 10:20:04 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 17, 2016, 10:10:12 AM
Quote from: FWalum on March 17, 2016, 10:08:00 AM
Quote from: agibson on March 17, 2016, 09:58:24 AMFor anyone within driving distance, I'll see you at the ARC!
Yes you will!  Since I had planned my trip to the LBAA National Tournament, this game has become an unexpected added bonus.  :thumbsup:

Ya gonna skip the opening convocation? :-X
I've been there a few times so even though my Godson is there I will forgo that event to see the extremely rare event of an ACC team in the ARC.  The real question will be if his father (a long time high school, college coach, player, color commentator and all around basketball junkie), whom had me get him a ticket, will skip and join me at the ARC.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: Kyle321n on March 17, 2016, 10:44:09 AM
Quote from: fsu1mikeg on March 17, 2016, 10:09:16 AM
FSU fan and '94 grad here.  I was there during the Charlie Ward/Sam Cassell/Bob Sura/Doug Edwards/Rodney Dobard years.  This team will NOT remind you of those teams.  We have two very talented freshmen who lead us in scoring.  Dwayne Bacon was a McDonald's AA and Malik Beasley was not far behind. 
Yeah those teams were some great teams. It's tough to match those, and really our team might not remind you much of the '98 team.

Quote from: fsu1mikeg on March 17, 2016, 10:09:16 AMWe have good size, but are not a physical team.  Boris Bojanovsky is 7'3" and 248 lbs.  He can block shots, but is weak physically and can be bullied in the paint.  Jarquez Smith is a 6'9" 4 who plays center out of necessity.  He is very athletic, but also on the finesse side.  He comes in to spell Boris after the first couple of minutes or when Boris picks up a quick foul.  Jarquez has come on a bit lately, but is not really a guy you have to plan for. 
Wow, that sounds crazy familiar. Oh yeah Vashil is 6'11", can block shots, and can be bullied in the paint and Jubril is really a 4 who plays the 5 because Smits is hurt.

Quote from: fsu1mikeg on March 17, 2016, 10:09:16 AM
Our two most physical bigs missed all or most of the year, so it's been a bit of patchwork in the frontcourt.  Senior Montay Brandon starts at the four, but he's really a big guard.  He actually started his FSU career at point guard.  He's played all over and is a solid rotation guy, but doesn't score and has trouble finishing near the rim.  He'll likely play 20 minutes and accumulate almost nothing in the stat sheet.  Terrance Mann is another talented freshmen who has been playing more as the season's gone on.  He's a big guard, but also plays the four out of necessity at times.  He's an energy guy. 
That's good that Alec won't have much to guard defensively. Save energy for the offensive end.

Quote from: fsu1mikeg on March 17, 2016, 10:09:16 AM
Our point guard is Xavier Rathan-Mayes.  He's a converted two who is capable of putting up big scoring nights, but has been disappointing this year.  Last year he made a name for himself by scoring 30 points in five minutes against UNC in a game we lost in OT.  He also had a crazy scoring binge in another loss.  Expect ESPN commentators to reference this, as he's been living off that since. 

Wow, a converted 2 who is a PG? Hey KC, check out your power 5 doppleganger.

Quote from: fsu1mikeg on March 17, 2016, 10:09:16 AM
Senior guard Devon Bookert has been the heart and soul of the team this year.  He's not big or a great athlete, but he's a deadly set shooter and can light it up from deep.  He's also a good hustle guy and will jump passing lanes for steals. 

I'm guessing the Walkers (unrelated) will have him and be able to stay tight on him. Tevonn is great at running through screens.

Quote from: fsu1mikeg on March 17, 2016, 10:09:16 AM
So we've got a couple of NBA caliber athletes (Bacon and Beasley) and some decent role players.  Coach Leonard Hamilton is known as a great defensive coach, but defense has been our Achilles Heel this year.  When we defend with energy, we can beat anyone.  But we've had games where teams can drive on us at will for layups and we're slow to rotate on the perimeter, leaving guys wide open for easy threes.  Offensively, we want to run at every opportunity.  Bacon and Beasley are deadly in transition.  We struggle in the half court, and especially against zone defenses.  I think that about covers it.  I'm hoping for an upset, but I think you guys will win this one at home and end our season.  Here's to a good, clean, exciting game.

Mike

Thanks for stopping by! I hope you guys don't defend with energy personally but that's just me being selfish. It's certainly going to be a close game and I hope we can slow your transition game.  I think we can because we've slowed teams like Green Bay, Detroit and Oakland this season and they like to get up and down the court. I really hope we don't try to play their game, because when we've done that we've either lost or blown some timeouts early so Bryce can settle the team down.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: bbtds on March 17, 2016, 01:06:18 PM
Quote from: FWalum on March 17, 2016, 10:08:00 AM
Quote from: agibson on March 17, 2016, 09:58:24 AMFor anyone within driving distance, I'll see you at the ARC!
Yes you will!  Since I had planned my trip to the LBAA National Tournament, this game has become an unexpected added bonus.  :thumbsup:


Can't beat that. A Valpo NIT game at home against a Power 5 team and the LBAA tournament all in one trip. I'll be there also.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: govalpogo on March 17, 2016, 01:51:42 PM
Can feel my productivity slipping at the office as I begin to feel the nervous excitement for tonight's game.   Go Valpo Go!
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: Kyle321n on March 17, 2016, 02:10:28 PM
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Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: VULB#62 on March 17, 2016, 02:15:08 PM
As pointed out by another poster, it would be great if they could put up temp bleachers on the east end and be bold gold there as well.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: oklahomamick on March 17, 2016, 02:47:10 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 17, 2016, 02:15:08 PMAs pointed out by another poster, it would be great if they could put up temp bleachers on the east end and be bold gold there as well.

Yes, if we need to duplicate the HL championship environment from last year.  That looks the best on tv and helps our players.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: crusaderjoe on March 17, 2016, 03:02:00 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on March 17, 2016, 02:47:10 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 17, 2016, 02:15:08 PMAs pointed out by another poster, it would be great if they could put up temp bleachers on the east end and be bold gold there as well.

Yes, if we need to duplicate the HL championship environment from last year.  That looks the best on tv and helps our players.

Are they retractable?  Can't remember.  If not, it might be hard to set up and take down timely with the youth tournament taking place.  I would like to see them though...that large open swath of floor doesn't really scream "big time" on TV.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: gamelord on March 17, 2016, 03:34:29 PM
I just bought my tickets online about 30 min ago. Was surprised to score a pair of tix in lower C, Row J. I thought all of C would be sold out by now.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: gamelord on March 17, 2016, 04:32:05 PM
My buddy backed out on me so i have an extra ticket. If anyone is going alone and would like a free ticket then let me know. I'll be there around 5:15
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: agibson on March 17, 2016, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: gamelord on March 17, 2016, 03:34:29 PMI just bought my tickets online about 30 min ago. Was surprised to score a pair of tix in lower C, Row J. I thought all of C would be sold out by now.

Just singles left downstairs.

Eight rows of CC, upstairs, are sold solid.

Some of the rest of the mezzanine sold.

They've somehow blocked out a dozen rows of EE - maybe overflow student seating? But only after some tickets were sold at the bottom (at least a few faculty planning on their "usual" seats). We'll see what happens with that.

With walk-ups, I think it should be a pretty good crowd. Maybe not _dramatically_ better than Texas Southern?
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: Valpofan00 on March 17, 2016, 04:56:07 PM
I think we are getting a little too hopeful for tonight's attendance. I say it will be slightly better than average.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: agibson on March 17, 2016, 04:58:46 PM
Quote from: Valpofan00 on March 17, 2016, 04:56:07 PM
I think we are getting a little too hopeful for tonight's attendance. I say it will be slightly better than average.

Tuesday was better than I expected. I'll be moderately optimistic and estimate 3,650.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: VULB#62 on March 17, 2016, 05:25:06 PM
Why not hold the LBAA convocation in the upper bleachers during half time  ???
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: VULB#62 on March 17, 2016, 07:00:04 PM
Listening to the game on WVUR cuz I don't have ESPN News.  Hearing over and over that Alec is being the man. The last 10 or so games he finally got it.  He's realized that he is better than he thought he was and as good as people were telling him.  This was something some of us were wishing for early in the season, but Alec still stayed within the process and as a result disappeared at times.  No more.  The kid gets it ----- and at the same time remains the same great kid young man he always was.

If Bryce stays and Alec stays, he will be a legit national All-American candidate and a possible NBA draft selection.  If Alec leaves, he still will be a legit national All-American candidate and a possible NBA draft selection wherever he goes.  We are watching possibly one of the two best VU players ever to step onto the ARC floor.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: humbleopinion on March 17, 2016, 07:01:59 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 17, 2016, 05:25:06 PM
Why not hold the LBAA convocation in the upper bleachers during half time  ???

They're filling the bleachers now.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: nkvu on March 17, 2016, 07:02:36 PM
Good first half. Fouls finally evened out. Have to come out and play with the same intensity in the second half without fouling out and FINISH!
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: FWalum on March 17, 2016, 07:26:08 PM
Yes, the LBAA is here! Standing room only!
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: VULB#62 on March 17, 2016, 07:40:13 PM
Listening to the crowd over WVUR -- it sounds so g  o  o   d!
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: swiftmutiny on March 17, 2016, 08:16:32 PM
Valpo wins 81-69! So proud of these guys.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: govalpogo on March 17, 2016, 08:18:38 PM
I loved just about everything about that game! Go Valpo!
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: IrishDawg on March 17, 2016, 08:27:47 PM
Nice win - really great to see Valpo responding the right way to getting snubbed from the tourney.  Win the whole thing!
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: nkvu on March 17, 2016, 08:28:26 PM
Great game and a STRONG finish!  Finally a big conference school on our court and we get a convincing win.

Since it's St. Patrick's day I think a Tulamore Dew 12 year Irish Whiskey to celebrate!
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: a3uge on March 17, 2016, 08:32:02 PM
2016 - the season where "we can't beat a BCS team" went away for a few years. :)
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: govalpogo on March 17, 2016, 08:33:56 PM
Gosh, this lemonade tastes pretty good.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: valpospartan on March 17, 2016, 08:39:57 PM
Anyone know the color commentator's name?
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: ValpoHoops on March 17, 2016, 08:45:00 PM
Mark Adams

Twitter: @enthusiadams

He went on a few epic rants about mid majors getting hosed by the NCAA committee. He's a huge mid major supporter.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: VUfan on March 17, 2016, 08:47:21 PM
A C Come tell me how good!!! NCAAwsome Good!!!!!!   :)
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: govalpogo on March 17, 2016, 08:52:27 PM
I don't believe Valpo has trailed yet in the NIT.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: bbtds on March 17, 2016, 08:53:02 PM
Quote from: Valpofan00 on March 17, 2016, 04:56:07 PM
I think we are getting a little too hopeful for tonight's attendance. I say it will be slightly better than average.

With the Lutheran tournament groups it was totally full just after halftime. I was told they charged them $1 each to get in.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: valpopal on March 17, 2016, 08:55:07 PM
I was near LeCrone at one point during the game, and I was watching as he looked around at a real tournament atmosphere. Also, whether intentional or not, it was a great dig at the HL when the attendance was announced as 4,991 near the end of the game.   ;D
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: talksalot on March 17, 2016, 09:27:35 PM
Quote from: ValpoHoops on March 17, 2016, 08:45:00 PM
Mark Adams

Twitter: @enthusiadams

He went on a few epic rants about mid majors getting hosed by the NCAA committee. He's a huge mid major supporter.


He was the Head Coach at Central Connecticut State from 1991-1996... was "schooled" by Homer in this place (his words not mine)

Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: talksalot on March 17, 2016, 09:28:33 PM
Quote from: valpopal on March 17, 2016, 08:55:07 PMAlso, whether intentional or not, it was a great dig at the HL when the attendance was announced as 4,991 near the end of the game


Part of my script.  Announcing the crowd is one of the things I'm supposed to do during the game.   PS... that was 4 more than Wright State.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: gamelord on March 17, 2016, 09:33:28 PM
I was kinda getting worried about the attendance. The place was empty 5-10 min before tipoff. Then all of a sudden it steadily got packed. Glad to see the black referee on our side, unlike the other two. The way they were calling petty fouls at first, I thought both teams would foul out before halftime.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: talksalot on March 17, 2016, 09:33:44 PM
Talking to their SID before the game... their charter flight was supposed to land at Gary yesterday but it was too windy, so they diverted to South Bend....   While there, they ran into an old friend... some guy named Digger... who found a nice steak house for them.   They were hoping to fly out of Porter County tonight....
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: bbtds on March 17, 2016, 09:36:47 PM
It was a great win on a great night. One of the best experiences I have had at Valpo in a few years. The culmination of a lot of expectations for this group. One more win and on to New York City.

I heard on WVUR as I was leaving Valpo that St Marys and Georgia will be playing Sunday. The winner then will have Monday to travel to Valpo for the Tuesday night game. That will be a huge advantage for Valpo. Now who is complaining about the LBAA people using the ARC floor for their tournament?

Just past Lafayette now. Going too fast maybe.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: talksalot on March 17, 2016, 09:40:49 PM
St Marys - Georgia play at 6:30pm CT on ESPNU on Sunday night... that's 4:30pm Pacific Time... I doubt they would travel and land at 2am here...don't know if they'd charter or not... be a long ride in a puddle jumper to get here.... oh wait... that's a good thing!

FYI, the guys in the ARC will be up most of the night getting the arena ready.  Yes, they will be leaving the NIT stickers on the floor.

Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: justducky on March 17, 2016, 09:45:49 PM
Quote from: bbtds on March 17, 2016, 09:36:47 PMJust past Lafayette now. Going too fast maybe.
Whatever you do don't get in another accident!
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: hailcrusaders on March 17, 2016, 09:55:08 PM
Someone who appears to be a Duke fan on the FSU board chalked some of FSU's turnovers to floor itself being "riddled with dead spots and slippery areas". Have we ever heard such complaints, or are they just making excuses? It's an old building, and certainly not up to ACC standards, but I have not heard of such reports.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: nkvu on March 17, 2016, 10:07:52 PM
Quote from: hailcrusaders on March 17, 2016, 09:55:08 PM
Someone who appears to be a Duke fan on the FSU board chalked some of FSU's turnovers to floor itself being "riddled with dead spots and slippery areas". Have we ever heard such complaints, or are they just making excuses? It's an old building, and certainly not up to ACC standards, but I have not heard of such reports.

Wasn't the floor just redone a couple of years ago?  Sorry but I'm just not feeling a whole lot of sympathy right now.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: Valpower on March 17, 2016, 10:37:48 PM
Quote from: hailcrusaders on March 17, 2016, 09:55:08 PM
Someone who appears to be a Duke fan on the FSU board chalked some of FSU's turnovers to floor itself being "riddled with dead spots and slippery areas". Have we ever heard such complaints, or are they just making excuses? It's an old building, and certainly not up to ACC standards, but I have not heard of such reports.
How could he possibly know?  My feeling was that he was sarcastically criticizing FSU's ball-handling effort.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: bbtds on March 17, 2016, 10:42:31 PM
Quote from: justducky on March 17, 2016, 09:45:49 PM
Quote from: bbtds on March 17, 2016, 09:36:47 PMJust past Lafayette now. Going too fast maybe.
Whatever you do don't get in another accident!

Thanks for the well-wishes. I did slow down. I'm safe at home by 11:40 p.m. Not bad at all.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: wh on March 17, 2016, 10:47:08 PM
Quote from: nkvu on March 17, 2016, 10:07:52 PM
Quote from: hailcrusaders on March 17, 2016, 09:55:08 PM
Someone who appears to be a Duke fan on the FSU board chalked some of FSU's turnovers to floor itself being "riddled with dead spots and slippery areas". Have we ever heard such complaints, or are they just making excuses? It's an old building, and certainly not up to ACC standards, but I have not heard of such reports.

Wasn't the floor just redone a couple of years ago?  Sorry but I'm just not feeling a whole lot of sympathy right now.

Yes, a new floor with premium padding was installed within the last 3 or 4 years. An ignorant comment.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: a3uge on March 17, 2016, 10:50:04 PM
The players were sliding all over the place - Alec completely blew a tire at one point.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: wh on March 17, 2016, 10:52:58 PM
Quote from: valpopal on March 17, 2016, 08:55:07 PM
I was near LeCrone at one point during the game, and I was watching as he looked around at a real tournament atmosphere. Also, whether intentional or not, it was a great dig at the HL when the attendance was announced as 4,991 near the end of the game.   ;D

I hope he paid his way in.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: FWalum on March 17, 2016, 11:01:19 PM
A really enjoyable experience. I to was worried about the late arriving crowd.  Maybe the early time had something to do with that?  Great to see all of the LBAA kids standing around the track and filling all the upper level seats.  The atmosphere was electric! Every time FSU made a run the team and crowd responded. Proud to be a Crusader!!
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: wh on March 17, 2016, 11:06:23 PM
VU fans show out in full voice for Crusaders
Jim Peters Times Columnist  26 min ago

VALPARAISO — Who knew a possible logistical headache could turn into a blessing for the Valparaiso University men's basketball team?

After Tuesday's win over Texas Southern, the school had to do some scrambling to fit in the Crusaders' second-round National Invitation Tournament game against visiting Florida State with the Lutheran Basketball Association of America's National Tournament of Champions descending on the campus.

Rather than moving the game to after the weekend, Valpo scheduled it for Thursday and may have picked up a thousand or so new fans in the process. The upper reaches of the balcony, vacant during the first half, were near capacity after the break as the youth teams, dressed in their respective T-shirts, joined the fun for the bargain price of $1. Additional fans hung out along the upper level rails, bringing the official attendance figure to 4,991, not quite, but just short of capacity at the the Athletics-Recreation Center.

"What a great atmosphere," VU coach Bryce Drew said. "The crowd was tremendous. The team was energized, hearing them out there cheering for us, showing their enthusiasm, and it showed."

The ValparaiZone student section ignited the crowd behind the west basket, giving Florida State an occasional needle with the Seminoles' trademark war chant and tomahawk chant. It also flashed a poster that read 'Wide Left" and an arrow pointing that direction, a shot at FSU's history of missed field goals in football.

"It's the loudest I've heard the ARC in my three years here," VU's Jubril Adekoya said. "It was definitely like a sixth man for us. It was helping us with our energy. When you had adversity in the game, it helped us push through it."

The Crusaders led wire to wire but were picked up by their enthusiastic faithful when the Seminoles made a few pushes, only to be rebuffed each time.

"It was awesome," VU's Alec Peters said. "When we'd make a shot, a key play, take a charge, everybody was erupting. We could feel the energy. It gave the extra boost that we need."

After the turnout of less than 3,000 for the opener, there was no doubt about how strong the Valpo support would show out on St. Patrick's Day, smack dab up against the NCAA tournament. If you were a cursed Purdue fan in the house, you were spared watching the nightmare of their epic collapse against Arkansas-Little Rock, but I digress.

"We play in a lot of those atmospheres in our conference," Florida State's Leonard Hamilton said. "It was good to see the home fans supporting their team. They earned the right (to host), being the No. 1 seed."

Up next for the Crusaders on Tuesday is St. Mary's or Georgia. Oh, wouldn't it be nice to have VU and the Gaels, considered two of the NCAA's main selection oversights, meet with a trip to Madison Square Garden on the line? Oh, it just became even more difficult for Valpo to get a big school to play them here in the regular season.

"We're not worried about that right now," Drew said. "We're just excited about tonight, happy for the team and our fans, and looking forward to the next game."

The ARC was quickly adjusted to prepare it for their weekend occupants Thursday night. They'll be gone by the time Valpo plays again, which means those upper level seats will be available. Whether you sport the brown and gold or not, don't miss the chance to come out and see a good basketball team continue its postseason run.

"Enjoy the moment," Hamilton said. "It's a very special team. They're a team that should have been in the NCAAs. They have a very special opportunity. Hopefully, they have the opportunity to get to New York and win the NIT."
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: nkvu on March 17, 2016, 11:06:39 PM
Just watched  Whichita State take down Arizona easily.  If the power 5 didn't have all the advantages I have to wonder if they would even have a winning percentage against the best mid-majors in any kind of a fair situation.  If you really are the best then play mid majors on a neutral court or at their place and PROVE IT!
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: agibson on March 17, 2016, 11:26:05 PM
Quote from: a3uge on March 17, 2016, 10:50:04 PM
The players were sliding all over the place - Alec completely blew a tire at one point.

It's frequently slippery - don't know if this is normal, or we have sub-standard towel boys, or what.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: wh on March 18, 2016, 12:13:05 AM
Quote from: agibson on March 17, 2016, 11:26:05 PM
Quote from: a3uge on March 17, 2016, 10:50:04 PM
The players were sliding all over the place - Alec completely blew a tire at one point.

It's frequently slippery - don't know if this is normal, or we have sub-standard towel boys, or what.

In all the tens of thousands of posts over all the years about every topic under the sun, tonight is the first time I ever recall anyone making a claim that the ARC floor was causing their players to "slip."
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: oklahomamick on March 18, 2016, 12:42:23 AM
Quote from: valpopal on March 17, 2016, 08:55:07 PMI was near LeCrone at one point during the game, and I was watching as he looked around at a real tournament atmosphere.

Was he wearing a Detroit shirt?  surprised he is not in OKC for Green Bay game tomorrow.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: oklahomamick on March 18, 2016, 12:53:02 AM
St. Mary's will probably bring more attention since they too were considered a snub for the NCAA.  I would rather play Georgia because they are a Power5 school.  I actually had #3 Juwan Parker for Georgia as a student when he attended Booker T. in Tulsa.  Juwan was coached by Shea Sells who is now an assistant at Tulsa University and when we last spoke admitted TU was given a gift when invited to the dance.  Would be cool to host a SEC team.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: rogerwilco on March 18, 2016, 12:56:49 AM
As sad as I am about Valpo not being in the NCAAs...
Perhaps, a long-run in the NIT is more beneficial financially for VU in terms of national branding and outreach.
Each game that is played is a fantastic advertisement for VU.
Rather than a potential one and done, perhaps the NIT journey will help VU with high school applications and enrollment.
So what seemed like less initially, might actually end up being more long-term. That's my hope.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: oklahomamick on March 18, 2016, 12:59:11 AM
Quote from: rogerwilco on March 18, 2016, 12:56:49 AMRather than a potential one and done, perhaps the NIT journey will help VU with high school applications and enrollment.
Quote from: rogerwilco on March 18, 2016, 12:56:49 AMAs sad as I am about Valpo not being in the NCAAs... Perhaps, a long-run in the NIT is more beneficial financially for VU in terms of national branding and outreach. Each game that is played is a fantastic advertisement for VU. Rather than a potential one and done, perhaps the NIT journey will help VU with high school applications and enrollment. So what seemed like less initially, might actually end up being more long-term. That's my hope.

You might be right.  But there was a good chance with a good seed that we would not be a one and done.  We will never know but for me thats why this stings a little more.  Knowing we had the tools to make a run.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: valpopal on March 18, 2016, 01:12:15 AM
Quote from: oklahomamick on March 18, 2016, 12:42:23 AM
Quote from: valpopal on March 17, 2016, 08:55:07 PMI was near LeCrone at one point during the game, and I was watching as he looked around at a real tournament atmosphere.

Was he wearing a Detroit shirt?  surprised he is not in OKC for Green Bay game tomorrow.


He was wearing Detroit colors, a blue shirt with a red tie.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: rogerwilco on March 18, 2016, 01:12:35 AM
Oh, it stings and I'm still salty about this season.
I remember walking out of Nationwide Arena after the Maryland loss and thinking "We'll win 30 games next year and fix this."


Unfortunately, it is what it is. Our best team. Then again, each time Valpo is on national TV is free advertising.


Valpo needs money and it needs students. A lot of what Dr. Harre did in terms of fund-raising for the endowment fund was undone during the economic downturn. Anything that Valpo can do to earworm itself into potential students and tap into alumni is a good thing. The more TV exposure, the better. It's advertising that the university can not purchase. I would like an economist to price out the benefit of our lengthy NIT run. What seems to be the second best thing that could have happened might just end up being the best long-term thing overall. Just a thought. It might not be what we want, but it might be what we need for Valparaiso University. (silver-lining guy, signing out!)
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: usc4valpo on March 18, 2016, 02:10:21 AM
is Valpo strapped for cash?
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: crusaderjoe on March 18, 2016, 07:33:48 AM
Man, what a game.  Fantastic effort by everyone last night.  They looked like a team on a mission.  Every time FSU made a run, it was like someone pressed the "not in our house" button and they responded.  Quality win over a good team.  I hope we get to the Garden.  Boy, I sure hope we get to the Garden.

The place looked jam packed during the second half on TV.  Looked like we had at least 5K there for sure.  I hadn't seen that many people lining the track area since Butler a few years ago.

And I have to say that as a Miami grad too that whomever came up with the "WIDE LEFT" sign written in orange and green in the Valpo student section was very clever.  Truth be told though, "WIDE RIGHT" would have probably worked a little better. And I should also say that I enjoyed seeing Leonard Hamilton at the ARC. The guy put Miami basketball on the map in a tough Big East conference in the 90's.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: SanityLost17 on March 18, 2016, 07:46:55 AM
I had to listen to the game on the radio, so I could be wrong, but it sounded to me like the team was a well oiled machine with Carter on the floor, and fairly lost with him on the bench.  I really hope we get him for one more year.  Could be the difference between a good/great team next year. 
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: vu72 on March 18, 2016, 08:10:46 AM
Was glued to the tube last night as it was a great game played by a great team.  Two things of note: First, FSU is a team that beat a bunch of NCAA teams, including VCU, Florida, Virginia, Notre Dame and Syracuse.  The other thing to keep in mind is that FSU will be a contender to win the ACC next year with the fine group of freshman that played yesterday.

We have shown that we belong with anybody in the nation.  Now, we need to get to NYC and win it all.  Anything else at this point will be a disappointment.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: wh on March 18, 2016, 08:20:01 AM
It was so much fun last night!  I've already been on the phone with family this morning figuring out how many tickets we need for Tuesday and who's going to the ticket office at 10 sharp to pick them up. Really enjoying the moment!
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: vu72 on March 18, 2016, 08:27:46 AM
It may have been covered earlier, but FSU may have as much talent as any team we have played.  Young, yes, for sure, but very talented.  Xavier Rathan-Mayes was a consensus first team all ACC player and three freshman were ranked in the top 100 coming in this year.  Dwayne Bacon, #17, Malik Beasley, #24, and Terrance Mann, #85.  A very impressive win!
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: d0uble3m on March 18, 2016, 09:02:10 AM
When do tickets for Tuesday go on sale?
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: Kyle321n on March 18, 2016, 09:09:12 AM
Quote from: d0uble3m on March 18, 2016, 09:02:10 AM
When do tickets for Tuesday go on sale?

In an hour.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: Valpo89 on March 18, 2016, 09:14:28 AM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on March 18, 2016, 07:46:55 AM
I had to listen to the game on the radio, so I could be wrong, but it sounded to me like the team was a well oiled machine with Carter on the floor, and fairly lost with him on the bench.  I really hope we get him for one more year.  Could be the difference between a good/great team next year. 
You hit the nail on the head.
I cringe every time someone other than Carter has the ball in his hands. In order of cringe-worthiness from worst to tolerable, this is my list: 1. E Vic Nick; 2. Hammink; 3. Jubril; 4. D. Walker; 5. Tevonn. Well, and then every time someone passes to Vashil, it's an adventure.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: oklahomamick on March 18, 2016, 09:26:21 AM
T. Walker really struggled last night on the offensive side of the ball.  We will need him next game and in NYC.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: bbtds on March 18, 2016, 10:19:50 AM
Quote from: d0uble3m on March 18, 2016, 09:02:10 AM
When do tickets for Tuesday go on sale?

19 minutes ago, 10:00 a.m. central time.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: talksalot on March 18, 2016, 10:42:26 AM
http://www.etix.com/ticket/v/2047/valparaiso-universityathleticsrecreation-center-arc?cobrand=valpo&displayType=list (http://www.etix.com/ticket/v/2047/valparaiso-universityathleticsrecreation-center-arc?cobrand=valpo&displayType=list)

Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: crusadermoe on March 18, 2016, 11:03:11 AM
Indeed Carter holds the key to really big things for next year.   Although I think Alec, Shane, and Tevonn bring enough explosiveness to work with a newer point guard too.  I didn't realize he had a shot at a 5th year.    Wow.

USC4Valpo asked if Valpo is strapped for cash.   Someone on the board was saying their bond rating was lowered so money is short somewhere.   Was it VU72?

For enrollment growth, it would be good to invest in something that draws kids and adds some "fun" to the curb appeal.  I was stunned to see that 5 of 6 colleges my daughter visited had large rec centers with rock climbing walls, water parks, and really large cardio and swimming facilities.  The new student union is nice looking and in many ways impressive.  But for $60m, it seems you could have cut back a hair and banked up $10-15m+ toward a fieldhouse/rec center.   Students will want to gather there, but you hate to have them veg out round the clock.   
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: valpo84 on March 18, 2016, 11:05:54 AM
Quick hits;

I thought of Digger a lot last night -- wide left reminded me of FSU/ND battles, that being close to ND reminded me of Digger, and the excellent win over a Power 5 (in a conference including ND) reminded me of the upset win over Digger in the ARC and his pledge never to return.  And a reminder of why Power 5s don't come to visit. 

Announcers forgot to mention that Robbie Hummel was a ball boy at Valpo.

Shea Seals was a terrific player for Tulsa (all-time leading scorer).

The Union was needed first, the Rec Center should be next.

If we make it to NIT Championship game, we would have 30 wins!

Last night's game on TV, when the crowd stood after the 3 to extend to 12 pt lead was goosebumpily!  That's what the ARC should be like all the time.  And oh by the way, it's nice that we are hosting a tournament that we earned.  Dear Horizon League, that's a tourney atmosphere! #FireLecrone

Maybe Delly will drive out with me for Tuesday's game if St Mary's wins....
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: Just Sayin on March 18, 2016, 11:11:43 AM
Was Bryce sending a message to Vashil that if you want playing time, you've gotta stop fouling? After his fourth foul, he never played again.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: swiftmutiny on March 18, 2016, 11:26:14 AM
Quote from: Just Sayin on March 18, 2016, 11:11:43 AM
Was Bryce sending a message to Vashil that if you want playing time, you've gotta stop fouling? After his fourth foul, he never played again.
It could be, but I think it was more that Jubril (other than his own foul troubles) was playing fantastic basketball. He played with a lot of energy and was hitting his shots. Then once Jubril fouled out, it was close enough to the end of the game that I don't think Bryce wanted FSU to play hack-a-Vashil.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: vu72 on March 18, 2016, 11:29:04 AM
Quote from: crusadermoe on March 18, 2016, 11:03:11 AM
Indeed Carter holds the key to really big things for next year.   Although I think Alec, Shane, and Tevonn bring enough explosiveness to work with a newer point guard too.  I didn't realize he had a shot at a 5th year.    Wow.

USC4Valpo asked if Valpo is strapped for cash.   Someone on the board was saying their bond rating was lowered so money is short somewhere.   Was it VU72?

For enrollment growth, it would be good to invest in something that draws kids and adds some "fun" to the curb appeal.  I was stunned to see that 5 of 6 colleges my daughter visited had large rec centers with rock climbing walls, water parks, and really large cardio and swimming facilities.  The new student union is nice looking and in many ways impressive.  But for $60m, it seems you could have cut back a hair and banked up $10-15m+ toward a fieldhouse/rec center.   Students will want to gather there, but you hate to have them veg out round the clock.   

Nope, it wasn't me, it was Vale O. Paradise,(see thread in General VU discussion section.  I wouldn't be too worried but this is why President Heckler is determined to raise the size of the endowment.  Our Moody's short term credit rating is still A2 (superior).

As for the publicity, it sure can't hurt, but considering all the pub certain other teams get, you would expect their endowments to be much larger.  As examples, Valpo's 2015 endowment was $204 million while Gonzaga's was $186 million, Butler's was $184 million and Xavier's was $156 million. 
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: oklahomamick on March 18, 2016, 11:43:22 AM
Quote from: vu72 on March 18, 2016, 11:29:04 AMAs examples, Valpo's 2015 endowment was $204 million while Gonzaga's was $186 million, Butler's was $184 million and Xavier's was $156 million. 
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: justducky on March 18, 2016, 12:07:45 PM
Quote from: swiftmutiny on March 18, 2016, 11:26:14 AMI think it was more that Jubril (other than his own foul troubles) was playing fantastic basketball. He played with a lot of energy and was hitting his shots. Then once Jubril fouled out, it was close enough to the end of the game that I don't think Bryce wanted FSU to play hack-a-Vashil.
Jubril was put back to the point-center position of bringing the ball across half court. We did that several times last year (GB in particular comes to mind) in order to bypass the quicker guard pressures and traps. Worked great!  :thumbsup:

His 3 point shot is an adventure. I glanced after the game and his % still stands near 58% but when he misses it is often an air ball. With that in mind one of his teammates should camp out under the basket waiting for it to fall way short. Then it would be up to the official scorer to determine if it was a pass or a missed shot.  ;)
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: agibson on March 18, 2016, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: justducky on March 18, 2016, 12:07:45 PMHis 3 point shot is an adventure. I glanced after the game and his % still stands near 58% but when he misses it is often an air ball.

I love watching him take the shot - his motion is _so_ _slow_. He mostly only tries when has five seconds to set it up, and obviously mostly takes completely wide open shots. Keep it up!
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: agibson on March 18, 2016, 12:26:46 PM
Quote from: swiftmutiny on March 18, 2016, 11:26:14 AM
Quote from: Just Sayin on March 18, 2016, 11:11:43 AM
Was Bryce sending a message to Vashil that if you want playing time, you've gotta stop fouling? After his fourth foul, he never played again.
It could be, but I think it was more that Jubril (other than his own foul troubles) was playing fantastic basketball. He played with a lot of energy and was hitting his shots. Then once Jubril fouled out, it was close enough to the end of the game that I don't think Bryce wanted FSU to play hack-a-Vashil.

Bryce has demonstrated that he often likes to play a very short rotation, even keeping in the same five, late in games. I suspect that was also a factor.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: Kyle321n on March 18, 2016, 12:40:24 PM
Quote from: agibson on March 18, 2016, 12:26:46 PM
Quote from: swiftmutiny on March 18, 2016, 11:26:14 AM
Quote from: Just Sayin on March 18, 2016, 11:11:43 AM
Was Bryce sending a message to Vashil that if you want playing time, you've gotta stop fouling? After his fourth foul, he never played again.
It could be, but I think it was more that Jubril (other than his own foul troubles) was playing fantastic basketball. He played with a lot of energy and was hitting his shots. Then once Jubril fouled out, it was close enough to the end of the game that I don't think Bryce wanted FSU to play hack-a-Vashil.

Bryce has demonstrated that he often likes to play a very short rotation, even keeping in the same five, late in games. I suspect that was also a factor.

Not only that, but FSU was playing small against us (or smaller than they would normally) so when Jubril fouled out, it made sense to bring in Darien, instead of Jubril, because we'd have trouble keeping with their smaller "bigs".
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: valpo64 on March 18, 2016, 01:45:41 PM
Give alot of credit to Jubril...after a couple of early very poor 3 pt attempts, he had the confidence to  keep shooting when the opportunity came...I'm sure that Bryce has instilled that in him...that's what good coaching is all about...overall a great effort, playing with confidence as we went deep into the bench again and , except when Carter was out, the guys played well.  It looks like T Walker is not yet fully back into his game but hopefully by next Tue he will be  back at full speed
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: HC on March 18, 2016, 02:02:50 PM
Jubril only missed one three, granted he missed it by a mile.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: oklahomamick on March 18, 2016, 02:13:25 PM
Quote from: HC on March 18, 2016, 02:02:50 PMJubril only missed one three, granted he missed it by a mile.

I think Jubril has added the 3 to his game over the summer.  Remember when he came to Valpo his mid-range and certainly 3 point shot was non existent.  Even though Jubril started as a freshman his game has improved a lot.  Good work.
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: justducky on March 18, 2016, 02:30:23 PM
Quote from: HC on March 18, 2016, 02:02:50 PMJubril only missed one three, granted he missed it by a mile.
2 miles!    :o


Quote from: oklahomamick on March 18, 2016, 02:13:25 PMI think Jubril has added the 3 to his game over the summer.  Remember when he came to Valpo his mid-range and certainly 3 point shot was non existent.
Jubril took a lot of 3's his freshman year. As that season progressed his green light for taking them was pulled because he was only hitting about 23% from distance. One of our recruitment promises was that he get a chance at the 3 position and he got a shot at it but was unimpressive. We needed a bulkier backup 4 and 5 last year and thats what he did. As a sophomore I think he might of only taken a few shot clock desperation 3's for the season  ???
Title: Re: Game 34 Florida State Seminoles @ the ARC in 37 hrs 45 minutes
Post by: bbtds on March 19, 2016, 09:40:28 AM
Quote from: swiftmutiny on March 18, 2016, 11:26:14 AMThen once Jubril fouled out, it was close enough to the end of the game that I don't think Bryce wanted FSU to play hack-a-Vashil.

But I don't think FSU would have played "hack-a-Vashil" because he had made 4 FTs in a row prior to getting his 4th foul.