6-9 forward Zach Hollywood who played his high school ball with Valpo 2016 recruit Micah Bradford was released from his signed NLI by James Madison today. Wonder if he is worth a look by our coaches?
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My daughter, a Crusaderette, says Jubril is gone, cannot believe it. But if true, a spot opens up right away so long as Micah honors his commitment which I think he will. Zachary will have some early PT right on if that's the case and the Lottich rebuild will be in full force. If he recruited Micah, chances are he knows or recruited Zachary.
It makes little sense for Jubril to go . He would have to find a school willing to give two year's scholarships for one year playing time unless he chooses to go Div II. I can't imagine Div I schools ready to make that sort of deal for his ability to contribute, and after seeing MSG, could he lower his sights? I hope that he was blowing off steam and will make peace with the new coach and finish his career here.
I'd give him an offer. If Jubril leaves that means we'll have 4 scholarships open.
Hollywood is unranked by Scouts, Rivals, and ESPN. But Futures150 ranked him 3 stars (breaks down his strengths/weakness: https://future150.com/hs/basketball-profiles/zach-hollywood-sf-bourbonnais-il-2016 ). He made CSN Chicago's Top 50 players to watch for http://www.csnchicago.com/preps/top-50-high-school-basketball-players-watch-illinois .
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2360352/zach-hollywood
http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/zach-hollywood/xp9vEilSEeS00gAmVebEWg/videos.htm
My daughter said a couple of Alabama schools contacted him (Jubril) already, shady in its own right but college athletics. I believe he was a Powell recruit but Jubril isn't going to the NBA. Why quit now when you're a focal piece of another high running HL team?
Quote from: humbleopinion on April 07, 2016, 05:52:32 PMIt makes little sense for Jubril to go . He would have to find a school willing to give two year's scholarships for one year playing time unless he chooses to go Div II. I can't imagine Div I schools ready to make that sort of deal for his ability to contribute, and after seeing MSG, could he lower his sights? I hope that he was blowing off steam and will make peace with the new coach and finish his career here.
Ritchie Edwards made a similar move when he transferred to Arizona St. It didn't work out too well for either, and the ASU fans could never understand it. OK perhaps Jubril is slightly more versatile but this move still doesn't fit with any of the conventional reasons.
Quote from: VU2014 on April 07, 2016, 06:01:41 PMI'd give him an offer. If Jubril leaves that means we'll have 4 scholarships open.
Of course we had four scholarships earlier and chose not to offer. As was said, Lottich must have been familiar with him.
What schools in Alabama have contacted Jubril already? If that is true, that is extremely shady.
Unless he has some sort of personality conflict with the new HC his transferring makes no sense. He can't think he is a potential nba player. If Peters leaves he becomes the starting 4 and gets Peters minutes. If Peters comes back he still will get major minutes at the 5 and backing up Peters at the 4. Why go through the hassle of going to a brand new program and sitting out a year for the chance to play one year? Unless of course he is graduating early too and can transfer and play immediately which I haven't heard anybody say. Even then why go through the hassle?
Quote from: justducky on April 07, 2016, 06:14:31 PM
Quote from: humbleopinion on April 07, 2016, 05:52:32 PMIt makes little sense for Jubril to go . He would have to find a school willing to give two year's scholarships for one year playing time unless he chooses to go Div II. I can't imagine Div I schools ready to make that sort of deal for his ability to contribute, and after seeing MSG, could he lower his sights? I hope that he was blowing off steam and will make peace with the new coach and finish his career here.
Ritchie Edwards made a similar move when he transferred to Arizona St. It didn't work out too well for either, and the ASU fans could never understand it. OK perhaps Jubril is slightly more versatile but this move still doesn't fit with any of the conventional reasons.
If Jubril is also graduating, I can see it making more sense for him, to try and find a larger role (scoring). I remember that someone mentioned the big selling point for him to come to Valpo, was that he could play SG/SF minutes. If he truly believes that he is this combination, he needs to watch more video of himself. He is more of a SF/PF, not quick enough to be a true guard. If he wants to find a more prominent role at a school with less talent, more power to him. If he is not graduating this year, he is wasting an opportunity to get a solid degree. Even if it ends up being Samford in Alabama, any degree from that state would be much less desirable to employers.
I do recall Jubril bringing the ball up several times last year when we had turnovers at the point. Keith was out and others continued to turn it over. Jubril often brought it up. Have you seen his 3 point shot?
Jubril is an imoortant part of the core and is poised for a ton of minutes next year. He is our only reliable inside presence, aside from Alec's rebounding. Smits is a freshman, so he will need a lot of help. If Jubril wants to be more involved in the offense, great!
It'll be interesting to see how this develops.
Student-only all-team meeting. Lottich falking about what a tight group it is, what a family. We'll see.
Oren did mention that Skara, Shane and Walker said they would be back. No word on Jabril.
If Jabril thinks he's better he current role in Valpo I agree with TX that he needs to watch some tape.
I was reluctant to believe in Jubril a year ago. However, he really saved us many times this year. We need Smits/Peters/Jubril to share all of the minutes at the 4/5 positions. We need Skara/Hammink/Tevonn to share all the minutes the 2/3 positions. As far as the point guard goes, may the best 2 get the majority of the minutes with a 3rd getting limited minutes. I think all our our PG's are all good, but not great. This is a 8/9 man rotation that could be very good.
Truth of the matter is that if Peters and Jubril do not come back, we are in a bit of trouble unless we strike gold in late recruiting cycle.
Jubril made great strides this year. He showed that he can hit a 3 given a wide open look with plenty of time to prepare. And he did finish better around the rim though still not great. He will get lots of playing time next year to show what he can do. He will be a good to very good Horizon league level player. If he thinks that he is more than that he should look at the tapes. Where can he go that he could show' more? If he goes up he will ride the pine and be at best a practice player. If he goes down and excels - so what? Jubril you are in the perfect place in your last year to contribute to a good team. Don't blow it.
I personally think him leaving is a major mistake as he is not NBA caliber, and Euro teams will find him especially with Lottich as his Head Coach. But I saw Myke Henry leave Illnois and go to DePaul because he wanted to play more wing, he isn't a wing player nor is Jubril. He was at his best replacing Vashil and when V was in there playing a hybrid 4 with Alec. It seemed to suit his skill best. What he wants, who knows, but he can and will be focal point for a damn good basketball team next season if he wanted.
Quote from: oklahomamick on April 07, 2016, 08:08:31 PMI do recall Jubril bringing the ball up several times last year when we had turnovers at the point.
He is only asked to do this in clear outs while playing as a center and being guarded by a center. Even in this situation at the first sign of a trap he passes (by design) to a cutter returning to mid court.
Quote from: valpotx on April 07, 2016, 08:02:38 PMI remember that someone mentioned the big selling point for him to come to Valpo, was that he could play SG/SF minutes.
He got a brief look was largely unimpressive and since has bulked up 20+ lbs to better compete under the basket. He is now a much different athlete than the one who first stepped on campus.
Don't get me wrong Jubril is good enough to play at a lot of different schools. BUT him getting more minutes for any top 100 program is very unlikely. So what would be his incentive for leaving?
I think one of the toughest lessons to learn in life is what your limitations are. Anyone who puts on a Valpo men's basketball uniform is going to be better than 96 percent of players who have ever played the game. Anyone who started will be better than 97 percent. The problem is, the 3 percent left will take up all the nba and most of the international player jobs. That is a tough pill to swallow for 20 something kids who have these dreams of being the next Kobe and have enough skills to think they have a shot when in fact they really don't.
Jubril, I truly wish you were 6'10 and could play a strong 4. You're not. I truly wish you had the quicks and shot to play the 3. You don't. What you have is enough strength to back up the 5 and enough streangth and shot to play or back up the 4 at a horizon league level. That is quite a lot. Come back and do it! That's more than 97 per cent of basketball players can do.
As I said another thread, probably pretty hard to get a reaction from Jubril or even talk to him since he's most likely in Phoenix Arizona at the NCAA leadership forum which started on April 7 and ends on April 10. Pretty hard to attend meetings when your half a continent away.
But why let facts get in the way of wild speculation?
How did this thread turn from Micah Bradford's teammate to discussing unsubstantiated rumors about Jubril?
Quote from: ValpoFan on April 08, 2016, 09:49:35 AM
How did this thread turn from Micah Bradford's teammate to discussing unsubstantiated rumors about Jubril?
Just be happy we're not talking about facilities (talking about beating a "BCS" school in every thread has finally died, thank god).
Quote from: ValpoFan on April 08, 2016, 09:49:35 AM
How did this thread turn from Micah Bradford's teammate to discussing unsubstantiated rumors about Jubril?
It's all Dad's fault -- he introduced Jubril's name with reference to Hollywood's potential playing time. Tsk, tsk. ;D
I don't know anything about the guy, but if your name is Hollywood and you play sports, you have to back it up don't you?
This thread is full of good comments and all that, but isn't the real issue who should be on this team to beat a BCS school? Focus people, Focus on what really matters!!!
For what it's worth...Adekoya alluded to me yesterday that he was very excited for Matt and Luke and was eager to prepare for next year with them.
Quote from: Pgmado on April 08, 2016, 01:25:56 PM
For what it's worth...Adekoya alluded to me yesterday that he was very excited for Matt and Luke and was eager to prepare for next year with them.
Looks like the decision to stay within the family for our new HC is bearing fruit already.
Quote from: Pgmado on April 08, 2016, 01:25:56 PM
For what it's worth...Adekoya alluded to me yesterday that he was very excited for Matt and Luke and was eager to prepare for next year with them.
That's a relief. The dude is a very cerebral player, and we need him. I have always been a fan of his, as he is a standard 'glue' guy. It doesn't show up in most stat sheets, but the guy bails us out of a lot of tough situations offensively and defensively.
agreed. The guys love him. He often boxes out while someone else gets the rebound. His free throw shooting is a lot better. We need him!
As long as we are changing topics in threads, did anyone else notice WSU granted a release to Grant Benzinger? Indiana kid I think and the guy who hit the half court or longer basket against Valpo this past season in game at Wright State. Seemed like a decent shooter with some "fire on the court" when I watched their games. Would be a Jr and will have to sit out a year if he does transfer to a D1 school. Any thoughts as to would Valpo be interested?
Also too bad we did not get Marcus Ottey, the kid who chose UIC. Scouting sites seemed to indicate explosive guy with scorer mentality as a pg. 3*. UIC is building what s/b a good team under Coach McClain.
I think McClain might be crooked....I don't know how hes recruiting the talent he has.
Quote from: oklahomamick on April 11, 2016, 01:52:21 PM
I think McClain might be crooked....I don't know how hes recruiting the talent he has.
Do not know. But McClain has been around awhile as a HC or P5 assistant so likely has good recruiting contacts. Must be relentless on recruiting trail. Also maybe Ottey saw Micah Bradford being solid with Valpo and being in same class playing same position was looking at somewhere he could play early?
Also noticed where one time Valpo guard recruit Nick Rogers got release from Toledo. Wondering...if KC is not granted xtra year if adding another guard is in plan. Or saving one schollie to use later? Might have enough guards assuming Max and Lexus are healthy and improved for next season to back up KC or if not him maybe Micah if he is ready to start day 1. Lot to ask from him though as a frosh.
Quote from: oklahomamick on April 11, 2016, 01:52:21 PM
I think McClain might be crooked....I don't know how hes recruiting the talent he has.
I don't know if it's that surprising, but we'll see. As far as recruiting is concerned, there's probably nothing worse than being a long-standing coach with a losing program in a conference that has has one or two dominant teams. A new coach will often attract better recruits because he's not beholden to the previous system or players and can often promise a certain role or "guarantee" playing time to a recruit that he otherwise might not. It's interesting to wonder what effect the coaching turnover in the Horizon will have. It may end up lifting the entire conference's recruiting in that the title will be more up for grabs than usual and new coaches may generate more excitement from recruits.
Being in Chicagoland, when McClain was hired he was touted as GREAT recruiter. What that leads to them is Anyone's business. But you have to coach talent and that goes for LaVall Jordan.