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Title: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: wh on December 01, 2014, 05:20:07 PM
EKU comes into Wednesday's contest with a 4-1 record (2-1 vs. D-1 teams).  They defeated both Murray State and Belmont to win last year's OVC tournament, and are picked to finish 3rd in the OVC East this year behind Belmont and Morehead State. We are going to have to bring our A-game to prevail in this one.   

After playing 3 games in 3 days, traveling home, and now making a quick turnaround road trip, I'm more than a little concerned that our guys could come out flat on Wednesday.  We're about to find out how mentally tough this young group is at this early stage.

EKU message board:

http://www.maroon-nation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1798 (http://www.maroon-nation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1798)

Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: covufan on December 01, 2014, 06:11:45 PM
I think this game and the IPFW game will both be tough road games. 

Valpo    71
EKU      70

Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: valpo64 on December 01, 2014, 08:05:00 PM
Any video or audio for this one?
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: vu72 on December 01, 2014, 08:09:33 PM
Audio always available at valpoathletics.com. Not sure if the OVC has video or not.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: bbtds on December 01, 2014, 08:28:28 PM
Quote from: vu72 on December 01, 2014, 08:09:33 PM
Audio always available at valpoathletics.com. Not sure if the OVC has video or not.

It seems there is live video for this game.

http://www.ovcdigitalnetwork.com/watch/?Live=1938 (http://www.ovcdigitalnetwork.com/watch/?Live=1938)
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: valporun on December 01, 2014, 08:32:31 PM
I also found the link that bbtds just posted. I first checked out espn.com for anything on ESPN 3.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: vusupporter on December 01, 2014, 10:09:37 PM
That website called ValpoAthletics.com is usually a pretty good source to find video/audio links.  Just saying.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: FWalum on December 01, 2014, 11:16:03 PM
It seems like there is a little lack of respect for the Crusaders and our past accomplishments on the EKU board.

QuoteValpo will be (surprisingly) a huge challenge, mixing defenses, I believe, will help us more than settling on our "base" defense.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: vusupporter on December 01, 2014, 11:36:41 PM
Remember when we shot almost 70% against them on national TV at the ARC two years ago?  That was fun, let's do that again.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: valpotx on December 02, 2014, 12:05:52 AM
What has Eastern Kentucky done to warrant a comment like that about Valpo, especially when we beat them by 22 during the 2012-2013 season?? :o

Valpo 74
EKU 61
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: mj on December 02, 2014, 06:13:41 AM
This could be a trap game for Eastern Kentucky. They face Kentucky at Rupp after us.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: vu72 on December 02, 2014, 06:59:26 AM
Quote from: mj on December 02, 2014, 06:13:41 AM
This could be a trap game for Eastern Kentucky. They face Kentucky at Rupp after us.

By definition, a "trap game" is a game you should win but end up overlooking it while anticipating the bigger opponent coming up on the schedule.  Valpo isn't the underdog here.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: historyman on December 02, 2014, 08:40:20 AM
http://www.ovcdigitalnetwork.com/watch/?Live=2064 (http://www.ovcdigitalnetwork.com/watch/?Live=2064)

Here is the actual website for the Valpo at EKU live video feed. It would have been easy to find the above website from the other website listed but I thought it would help some of the posters on this board.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: wh on December 02, 2014, 09:38:20 PM
Spread Valpo -2
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: wh on December 02, 2014, 11:24:30 PM
Valparaiso heads to Eastern Kentucky riding best mark since 2007-08

http://posttrib.chicagotribune.com/sports/31429093-556/mens-basketball-valparaiso-heads-to-eastern-kentucky-riding-best-mark-since-2007-08.html#.VH6djr5FMZY (http://posttrib.chicagotribune.com/sports/31429093-556/mens-basketball-valparaiso-heads-to-eastern-kentucky-riding-best-mark-since-2007-08.html#.VH6djr5FMZY)

It should be noted that EKU's numbers are seriously inflated by 115-35 and 115-50 wins over non D-1 teams.  The numbers against their 3 D-1 opponents are respectible, but nothing like those mentioned in the article.   
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 02, 2014, 11:58:11 PM
whoa WWII ended a lot more recently than i previously thought
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: wh on December 03, 2014, 08:33:59 AM
This is as good a place as any to put this:

Valpo Basketball Preview 12|2|14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtbnyKNMywo#ws)

Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: Pgmado on December 03, 2014, 09:00:19 AM
I'll be my own shill!

http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/basketball/college/defense-the-key-to-valparaiso-s-early-success/article_8bd30ca4-9750-5c66-8d15-38b7b61f6e12.html (http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/basketball/college/defense-the-key-to-valparaiso-s-early-success/article_8bd30ca4-9750-5c66-8d15-38b7b61f6e12.html)
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: classof2014 on December 03, 2014, 10:56:39 AM
I think these next 2 games will tell us how good we really are. Did we just have an incredibly strong weekend? Or are we really that good?
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: wh on December 03, 2014, 04:51:26 PM
Headed out the door shortly for an evening teaching assignment, so I'll have to rely on the telepathic ability of the brotherhood to will us to victory.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: valpo4life on December 03, 2014, 06:54:28 PM
Subpar first half, but to be leading 32-30. I'll take it.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: a3uge on December 03, 2014, 06:57:50 PM
The refs are calling it tight on perimeters, but absolutely nothing inside.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: FWalum on December 03, 2014, 07:25:40 PM
This might be a bigger win than I realized, their announcer just stated that they have won 25 consecutive OOC home games!
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: valpotx on December 03, 2014, 07:35:41 PM
What a run to go up by 16 with 3:00 left!  Also, to the 2-3 posters on here that were bashing Vashil, as I have been saying the last 5 games, he is telling you that you can eattttttttttt itttttttttttt ;D
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: valpotx on December 03, 2014, 07:53:20 PM
Valpo 72-66!  Walden will look better on the stat sheet than the game indicated, because he made several garbage time shots.  Carter did a heck of a job on him all day, Peters is shooting lights-out, and Vashil is proving his doubters wrong ;).  Pretty cool to end EKU's 25 game non-conference home win streak too!

Chef, you asked at the end of the game who thought that Valpo would be 8-1 at this point in the year, and you can look TX's way :).
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: Valpofan00 on December 03, 2014, 07:53:43 PM
eastern Kentucky hit so many 3's...
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: swiftmutiny on December 03, 2014, 07:56:34 PM
So, that Alec kid is alright. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: valpotx on December 03, 2014, 07:58:10 PM
The big sell to Peters on coming to Valpo was that he was told that he would be replacing Rowdy from the start.  Now, consider that Smits is also being told the same thing regarding replacing Vashil, and we have a lot to look forward to over the rest of this season, as well as the following 2!
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: talksalot on December 03, 2014, 08:26:42 PM
Our WarrenNolan RPI went from 69 to 53 in the space of 15 minutes tonight.   New Mexico?   240+  and their game with NMSTate is on ESPN3 right now and State is ahead 17-10 at the under 12 media break in the first half.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: talksalot on December 03, 2014, 08:28:05 PM
OH, So EKY's next game is Saturday against Kentucky.   Could that be a trap game for the 'cats?  They have a really good Texas team on Friday night with all of the ESPN hype... and a 22 hour turnaround before playing these guys.  THAT would help our ratings a whole lot.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: a3uge on December 03, 2014, 08:28:26 PM
I think I saw more EKU points than Valpo's with that god awful stream, so it doesn't feel like we played much better.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: a3uge on December 03, 2014, 08:29:08 PM
Quote from: talksalot on December 03, 2014, 08:28:05 PM
OH, So EKY's next game is Saturday against Kentucky.   Could that be a trap game for the 'cats?

No.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: EddieCabot on December 03, 2014, 08:36:08 PM
Quote from: valpotx on December 03, 2014, 07:53:20 PM
Valpo 72-66!  Walden will look better on the stat sheet than the game indicated, because he made several garbage time shots.  Carter did a heck of a job on him all day, Peters is shooting lights-out, and Vashil is proving his doubters wrong ;).  Pretty cool to end EKU's 25 game non-conference home win streak too!

Chef, you asked at the end of the game who thought that Valpo would be 8-1 at this point in the year, and you can look TX's way :).

I believe 8-1 is the best record for all D-I teams in Indiana.  Wow!
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: historyman on December 03, 2014, 08:38:21 PM
Quote from: a3uge on December 03, 2014, 08:28:26 PMI think I saw more EKU points than Valpo's with that god awful stream, so it doesn't feel like we played much better.

Really? I didn't have any issues at all.






Just kidding!


It did seem like the streaming froze up whenever Valpo had the ball. It was good to see that Tavonn hit those important three point shots but it also would have been nice to see Tavonn actually make the shots.   ;)


Anyone else have issues with the stream freezing?
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: talksalot on December 03, 2014, 08:39:32 PM
And that puts a wrap on the Bracketbuster....
Looking back over the 18 games we've played in that series...

team            season          L/W   Score    Game #    Site    Running Record
Butler        2004-05   Loss   72-69    1    away           0 - 1
Niagara        2005-06   Win   88-82    1    home      1 - 1
Niagara        2006-07   Win   70-58    2    away     2 - 1
Butler        2006-07   Loss   60-47    2    home    2 - 2
Western Mich   2006-07   Loss (ot)   89-80    1    away   2 - 3
Miami (OH)   2007-08   Win (2ot)   99-94    1    home   3 - 3
Western Mich   2007-08   Win   77-65    2    home   4 - 3
Akron        2008-09   Win   74-66    1    home   5 - 3
Miami (OH)   2008-09   Loss   62-50    2    away   5 - 4
Bowling Green   2009-10   Loss   87-70    1    away   5 - 5
Akron        2009-10   Loss   77-57    2    away   5 - 6
Missouri State   2010-11   Win   80-67    1    home   6 - 6
Bowling Green   2011-12   Win   82-79    2    home   7 - 6
Loyola - Marymount   2011-12   Loss   61-53    1    away   7 - 7
Missouri State   2012-13   Win   62-54    2    away   8 – 7
Eastern Kentucky   2013-13   Win   82-60    1    home   9 – 7
Loyola - Marymount   2013-14   Win   80-73    2    home   10-7
Eastern Kentucky   2014-15   Win   72-66    2    Away   11-7

So... 5-4 in the "February Conference Interruptions"... and 6-3 in the rematch.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: classof2014 on December 03, 2014, 08:51:22 PM
Nice win, it was nice to see some adversity in this game. Going down after being up big and the first 10 of the second half was back and forth. EKY seems to be a pretty decent team and to beat them on their own court is always big. The sky seems to be the limit, the athleticism of this team can match with the best.

This was Vashil's best offensive output, 6-6 and made some really nice shots as well!

Too bad Alec couldn't get some of his 2 point tries to fall in the first half, if he had he could've been in the thirties and not just settle for 21!

Looking forward to Saturday!
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: hailcrusaders on December 03, 2014, 09:06:12 PM
Quote from: historyman on December 03, 2014, 08:38:21 PM
Quote from: a3uge on December 03, 2014, 08:28:26 PMI think I saw more EKU points than Valpo's with that god awful stream, so it doesn't feel like we played much better.
Really? I didn't have any issues at all. Just kidding! It did seem like the streaming froze up whenever Valpo had the ball. It was good to see that Tavonn hit those important three point shots but it also would have been nice to see Tavonn actually make the shots.   ;) Anyone else have issues with the stream freezing?

Sure did here. Paul Oren mentioned having trouble with it on Twitter, and mentioned gratitude for HLN while he was at it. I guess the OVC feed was better than nothing, or a paid site.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: govalpogo on December 03, 2014, 09:08:37 PM
I was leading a Bible study so couldn't watch the game.  In fact, the only game I've seen any part of live was against Mizzou...looks like I won't be watching any more games live this year!  I'll take one for the team.  It's better for everyone in my house anyway if I already know the result when watching a basketball game.  Go Valpo Go!
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: FWalum on December 03, 2014, 09:46:11 PM
Quote from: a3uge on December 03, 2014, 08:28:26 PM
I think I saw more EKU points than Valpo's with that god awful stream, so it doesn't feel like we played much better.
Glad to hear that someone else was having issues.  Since I have a 50 mbps connection I thought maybe I was having some other problems.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: bbtds on December 03, 2014, 10:17:20 PM
Quote from: talksalot on December 03, 2014, 08:26:42 PMand their game with NMSTate is on ESPN3 right now and State is ahead 17-10 at the under 12 media break in the first half.

New Mexico came back to win 62-47 over the Aggies of NM State. These games against the Lobos are huge for NMST because they really should win the WAC conference tournament easily. The other WAC members are CSU-Bakersfield, Chicago St., Grand Canyon, UMKC, Seattle, UT-Pan American and Utah Valley. If I was New Mexico State I would have found a new conference by now. I'm sure their location does hurt them in finding a new conference.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: hailcrusaders on December 03, 2014, 10:19:34 PM
Quote from: bbtds on December 03, 2014, 10:17:20 PM
Quote from: talksalot on December 03, 2014, 08:26:42 PMand their game with NMSTate is on ESPN3 right now and State is ahead 17-10 at the under 12 media break in the first half.
New Mexico came back to win 62-47 over the Aggies of NM State. These games against the Lobos are huge for NMST because they really should win the WAC conference tournament easily. The other WAC members are CSU-Bakersfield, Chicago St., Grand Canyon, UMKC, Seattle, UT-Pan American and Utah Valley. If I was New Mexico State I would have found a new conference by now. I'm sure their location does hurt them in finding a new conference.

I don't know, UMKC beat Mizzou when Valpo couldn't... ;)
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 03, 2014, 10:22:21 PM
(http://t.qkme.me/3rqcvm.jpg)
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: valpotx on December 04, 2014, 12:14:08 AM
Quote from: bbtds on December 03, 2014, 10:17:20 PM
Quote from: talksalot on December 03, 2014, 08:26:42 PMand their game with NMSTate is on ESPN3 right now and State is ahead 17-10 at the under 12 media break in the first half.

New Mexico came back to win 62-47 over the Aggies of NM State. These games against the Lobos are huge for NMST because they really should win the WAC conference tournament easily. The other WAC members are CSU-Bakersfield, Chicago St., Grand Canyon, UMKC, Seattle, UT-Pan American and Utah Valley. If I was New Mexico State I would have found a new conference by now. I'm sure their location does hurt them in finding a new conference.


I also had trouble with the stream, and it seemed to only come at key moments in the game!!

NMSU and Idaho both tried to find other conferences, even approaching their former Sun Belt Conference.  Nobody would have them, as the Sun Belt is actually more stabilized/localized than in years' past.

Vashil had some pretty nifty offensive moves demonstrated today.  They weren't quickly performed, but were very effective.  If he can perfect some of those, as well as keep holding onto the ball on alley-oops and high/low passes, he will have positioned himself very well to have a good European basketball career.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: wh on December 04, 2014, 01:22:24 AM
"Obviously, Alec Peters is a high-level player," Neubauer said. "I think offensively, he's one of those matchups that's really impossible. He really knows how to score the ball, rebound the ball and he shoots threes. We got to him several times and contested, but he's 6-foot-9 and he just shoots it as smooth as can be."
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 04, 2014, 06:54:55 AM
Quote from: valpotx on December 04, 2014, 12:14:08 AMI also had trouble with the stream
you might have a talk with your doctor, just man to man.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: Valpofan00 on December 04, 2014, 07:05:19 AM
If we win the rest of our games in December what are our chances of being ranked top 25 in the nation?? Btw how is Eastern Kentucky not ranked top 25 Mid-Major? Solid team!
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: bbtds on December 04, 2014, 08:11:36 AM
Quote from: valpotx on December 04, 2014, 12:14:08 AMVashil had some pretty nifty offensive moves demonstrated today.  They weren't quickly performed, but were very effective.  If he can perfect some of those, as well as keep holding onto the ball on alley-oops and high/low passes, he will have positioned himself very well to have a good European basketball career.

I think the big key for Vashil during those offensive moves is that he didn't dribble the ball. He kept his head up and made the plays. When you are Vashil's size you don't give the opposing players the opportunity to knock the ball away when you make slow deliberate moves that eventually put you in a position to flip the ball in the basket.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: classof2014 on December 04, 2014, 08:43:04 AM
That was a fun game to watch, the defense of Valpo is incredibly stingy and they had nothing below the basket and had to attempt 3's, 37 to be exact! Our 8 man rotation I think is set in stone for the season and it seems to be working. The least effective player has been Jubril but he did have a decent night last night which is promising.

KC is starting to show why he was so highly touted when he was recruited by the late Rick Majerus, 7 assists, shut down defender, and can score when need be. Took him a game or two to get going but he has been great over this recent stretch.

Tevonn, showing why he was ranked top 10 in Canada. One thing he has that most freshmen don't is his ability to defend, both he and KC are probably the best defensive backcourt in the league.

Vashil, last season was no fluke, he is a monster in the paint and basically takes away the other teams big. Had a great night offensively as well with a couple of nice moves around the basket. Hopefully he can stay out of foul trouble since he does us no good sitting on the bench but other than that he has been strong and confident.

Skara, the biggest surprise of the season. Had 9 boards last night, can make 3's, good FT shooter, and good around the basket. Remind you of a certain Aussie? Not bad for a freshman that I thought would be one of Bryce's reserves.

EVN, nice to see him get more minutes and brings tons of energy. He can shoot the 3 ball as well as make FTs, seems to be getting better day by day but still has a bit to go. Not bad for somebody who couldn't play for over a year.

Jubril, lost his starting job but still sees time off the bench. Had a good game last night, hopefully that's a sign for things to come. He can add another dimension if he can start finishing below the basket.

Darien, another surprise. Reminds me a bit of LVD, just another Chicago kid who is very athletic. Seems to be a streaky 3 point shooter, has games where he can go 20+ then next game be around 10, still not bad. Would like to see his FT numbers improve since last night they seemed to foul  him and he did miss down the stretch.

Alec, he has been GREAT so far. Very versatile, 7-8 from deep yesterday, he can post up. He's 6' 9". He's only a sophomore. I was expecting big things from Alec but didn't expect him to be this good!

Out of those 8 players only 1 is a senior, this team can be very special in the next few seasons. I know it's early but we've taken down some very good mid-majors in convincing fashion. Bryce is an amazing coach, knows how to gameplan, make in game adjustments, he's also a terrific recruiter. Able to find quality players, and quality kids to come to Valpo. And next season he has one of the top centers in the country to fill the role of Vashil. I like where this team is headed!

Beat the Lobos on Saturday!
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: Smj on December 04, 2014, 09:34:19 AM
classof2014,

If you are going to write a book you might need a publisher...

Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: FWalum on December 04, 2014, 09:37:50 AM
Great article about the game with a link to a gallery of photos.  Valpo jolts Eastern Kentucky (http://www.kentucky.com/2014/12/03/3574146_valparaiso-jolts-eastern-kentucky.html?rh=1)
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: justducky on December 04, 2014, 09:44:24 AM
Quote from: bbtds on December 04, 2014, 08:11:36 AM
Quote from: valpotx on December 04, 2014, 12:14:08 AMVashil had some pretty nifty offensive moves demonstrated today.  They weren't quickly performed, but were very effective.  If he can perfect some of those, as well as keep holding onto the ball on alley-oops and high/low passes, he will have positioned himself very well to have a good European basketball career.

I think the big key for Vashil during those offensive moves is that he didn't dribble the ball. He kept his head up and made the plays. When you are Vashil's size you don't give the opposing players the opportunity to knock the ball away when you make slow deliberate moves that eventually put you in a position to flip the ball in the basket.

Obviously any project player is a calculated risk with an unknown payoff. For the first time since his arrival on campus I am now confident that this 4 year investment of time is yeilding great positive results. If he can continue to perform at this level our chances of HL success will be greatly magnified.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: historyman on December 04, 2014, 10:32:38 AM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 04, 2014, 06:54:55 AM
Quote from: valpotx on December 04, 2014, 12:14:08 AMI also had trouble with the stream
you might have a talk with your doctor, just man to man.

Well then many of us need some prostate shrinking drugs also because my stream was not steady either.






(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j25/JodsBHD/Personal%20Pictures/MySpace%20Comments/PeeingMan.jpg)


Now there's a guy with a good stream!
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: Kyle321n on December 04, 2014, 10:43:41 AM
I am very happy to be wrong about Vashil.

Also I didn't expect the disrobing job we did on them from the 5 minute mark to the 2 minute mark. The last 2 minutes were a little worrisome, but we had put the game in the bag by then so maybe the guys took their foot off the pedal a little.

I didn't have Valpo winning this game, so TX has me beat right now. Granted at the beginning of the season I had our one loss to Murray, so I've technically been wrong about 3 games. This W makes me feel good about Saturday's game. Now let's hope there's a big crowd.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: bbtds on December 04, 2014, 10:49:38 AM
Quote from: swiftmutiny on December 03, 2014, 07:56:34 PM
So, that Alec kid is alright. :thumbsup:

Just call him "Al Peters" like the EKU coach.   ::)
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: covufan on December 04, 2014, 11:19:44 AM
Quote from: EddieCabot on December 03, 2014, 08:36:08 PMI believe 8-1 is the best record for all D-I teams in Indiana.  Wow!
Yes.  However, IU, Purdue, ND, Buck Futler and Evansville all have an equal 1 loss.  A great OOC season for Indiana basketball!
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: Kyle321n on December 04, 2014, 01:07:19 PM
Quote from: covufan on December 04, 2014, 11:19:44 AM
Quote from: EddieCabot on December 03, 2014, 08:36:08 PMI believe 8-1 is the best record for all D-I teams in Indiana.  Wow!
Yes.  However, IU, Purdue, ND, Buck Futler and Evansville all have an equal 1 loss.  A great OOC season for Indiana basketball!

The state will be lucky to get 2 tourney bids though. If IU or Purdue has a surprising B1G season we might be able to squeeze 3 at the max. I think ND is in and Valpo/Evansville need to win their conference tourney to make it. At least we're better off than Illinois!
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: classof2014 on December 04, 2014, 01:12:00 PM
Quote from: Kyle321n on December 04, 2014, 01:07:19 PM
Quote from: covufan on December 04, 2014, 11:19:44 AM
Quote from: EddieCabot on December 03, 2014, 08:36:08 PMI believe 8-1 is the best record for all D-I teams in Indiana.  Wow!
Yes.  However, IU, Purdue, ND, Buck Futler and Evansville all have an equal 1 loss.  A great OOC season for Indiana basketball!

The state will be lucky to get 2 tourney bids though. If IU or Purdue has a surprising B1G season we might be able to squeeze 3 at the max. I think ND is in and Valpo/Evansville need to win their conference tourney to make it. At least we're better off than Illinois!

I can see us getting an at-large if we sweep the rest of OOC and lose 1 conference game to a GB or CSU on the road and drop the HL championship to GB or CSU, can't afford a garbage loss to a YSU or lower quality team. It also depends of the strengths of the bigger conferences, if the high-major conferences have weaker seasons our chances are greater at getting an at-large.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: Kyle321n on December 04, 2014, 01:41:06 PM
Quote from: classof2014 on December 04, 2014, 01:12:00 PM
Quote from: Kyle321n on December 04, 2014, 01:07:19 PM
Quote from: covufan on December 04, 2014, 11:19:44 AM
Quote from: EddieCabot on December 03, 2014, 08:36:08 PMI believe 8-1 is the best record for all D-I teams in Indiana.  Wow!
Yes.  However, IU, Purdue, ND, Buck Futler and Evansville all have an equal 1 loss.  A great OOC season for Indiana basketball!

The state will be lucky to get 2 tourney bids though. If IU or Purdue has a surprising B1G season we might be able to squeeze 3 at the max. I think ND is in and Valpo/Evansville need to win their conference tourney to make it. At least we're better off than Illinois!

I can see us getting an at-large if we sweep the rest of OOC and lose 1 conference game to a GB or CSU on the road and drop the HL championship to GB or CSU, can't afford a garbage loss to a YSU or lower quality team. It also depends of the strengths of the bigger conferences, if the high-major conferences have weaker seasons our chances are greater at getting an at-large.

I ran this through RPI Wizard (http://www.rpiforecast.com/wizard/Valparaiso.html).


I think I would agree that if we're a 26-4 team, we make the tourney as an at large team and should be an 8 line team. I don't think we're going to win 26 games this season, and I don't think the Horizon League is getting a top 10 seed.

I REALLY hope I'm wrong though.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: chef on December 04, 2014, 01:45:32 PM
I think if there's a shot at an at large bid, a win on Saturday is a must.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: wh on December 04, 2014, 02:49:14 PM
Probably so.  If we can't beat either a weak Power 5 team or a rebuilding sort of high major NM team, there will be a lot of doubters about our tourney worthiness.  That said, if we were to lose Sat. and then do something crazy like win the rest of our games except the HL tourney championship game (which we absolutely will not do) and go 32-3, they would probably find a spot for us.  ;)
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: justducky on December 04, 2014, 03:34:11 PM
Any of this at-large speculation is very premature and also likely unwarranted. I still think that at least one Dec loss is close to certain and I shouldn't have to remind you how hard it is to win in the HL especially on the road.

Yes this young bunch seems to be much further along than any of us expected but it still appears we have some exploitable weaknesses, and are thin enough on the bench that any injuries or illnesses could be painful not only to the individual but also to the team and all of us as well. A tailspin caused by team youth is another possibility that we have not even considered. Add all of this up and I think that any great at-large bid hopes would fall into the 15-16 season. For it to happen this year would require a thousand things falling precisely into place.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: valpotx on December 04, 2014, 03:51:27 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 04, 2014, 06:54:55 AM
Quote from: valpotx on December 04, 2014, 12:14:08 AMI also had trouble with the stream
you might have a talk with your doctor, just man to man.

The only question I would have is which one of the voices inside your head/computer would it be addressed with? ;)
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: StlVUFan on December 04, 2014, 03:53:47 PM
Quote from: hailcrusaders on December 03, 2014, 09:06:12 PM
Quote from: historyman on December 03, 2014, 08:38:21 PM
Quote from: a3uge on December 03, 2014, 08:28:26 PMI think I saw more EKU points than Valpo's with that god awful stream, so it doesn't feel like we played much better.
Really? I didn't have any issues at all. Just kidding! It did seem like the streaming froze up whenever Valpo had the ball. It was good to see that Tavonn hit those important three point shots but it also would have been nice to see Tavonn actually make the shots.   ;) Anyone else have issues with the stream freezing?

Sure did here. Paul Oren mentioned having trouble with it on Twitter, and mentioned gratitude for HLN while he was at it. I guess the OVC feed was better than nothing, or a paid site.
I missed most of that 13-0 run late in the 2nd half because of it.  Thank god I had Todd's pbp on instead of theirs ;)

I'm glad to hear others had it, I worry with my 4 year old laptop if it's me.  I'm about to the point where it's time to refresh.  4 years ago MLB.TV stopped working reliably for me, so I upgraded.  Unfortunately, I'm not feeling comfortable with the idea of going to Windows 8 yet ;)
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: Valpower on December 04, 2014, 04:24:32 PM
Quote from: justducky on December 04, 2014, 03:34:11 PM
Any of this at-large speculation is very premature and also likely unwarranted. I still think that at least one Dec loss is close to certain...

Bearing in mind that with 60% of the OOC schedule completed (at which point most mid-majors have definitively ruled out their at-large hopes) and a far-from-brutal schedule remaining, I'd say this is as perfect a time for at-large speculation as it is for December-loss speculations.  I know which one's more fun.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: historyman on December 04, 2014, 04:34:22 PM
Yes, Valpower, the guy who shows up once a year in December.


Quote from: Valpower on December 17, 2013, 04:47:00 PM
Quote from: vu72 on December 17, 2013, 04:07:19 PM
OK, when did you reappear?  Welcome back!!  You were always one of the best! Now, as for the menu, it looks fine to me, for a basketball venue, and darn cheap at that.  The problem which will I'm sure be addressed in the remake of the ARC, is, where do you eat your salad?  Do you climb up to Section EE and wait for twelve people to slide by to get to their seats, all the while trying desperately to not get the blue cheese dressing on your brand new Valpo sweatshirt?  And now that you are finished, do you slide by another 12 people, climb down and try to find a trash can?  Or do you stick in under your feet, hoping, one more time, that those previously mentioned patrons won't disturb your leftovers?


I've been lurking forever, waiting for a special team to bring me back to posting, vu72. The fare does look better and reasonably portable and it doesn't need to get any fancier, but a small dining area wouldn't hurt. As for now, I'd think you could spread out a blanket in Section EE and have a picnic.

So is this year's Valpo team your "special" team?
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: vu72 on December 04, 2014, 05:03:36 PM
Quote from: Valpower on December 04, 2014, 04:24:32 PM
Quote from: justducky on December 04, 2014, 03:34:11 PM
Any of this at-large speculation is very premature and also likely unwarranted. I still think that at least one Dec loss is close to certain...

Bearing in mind that with 60% of the OOC schedule completed (at which point most mid-majors have definitively ruled out their at-large hopes) and a far-from-brutal schedule remaining, I'd say this is as perfect a time for at-large speculation as it is for December-loss speculations.  I know which one's more fun.

Holy Crap!! Valpower is BACK!!!!!!! Welcome!!!!
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: Valpower on December 04, 2014, 05:28:07 PM
Quote from: historyman on December 04, 2014, 04:34:22 PM
Yes, Valpower, the guy who shows up once a year in December.
...
So is this year's Valpo team your "special" team?

8-1 start with a level of dominance in the winnable games that we haven't seen in a while?  Close enough.  That said, the pattern of losses to lackluster major-conference foes in the early going persists so I'm cautious. Next year, though, I may show up in November.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: Valpower on December 04, 2014, 05:38:44 PM
Quote from: vu72 on December 04, 2014, 05:03:36 PM

Holy Crap!! Valpower is BACK!!!!!!! Welcome!!!!


Thank you, but I never really left.  I was just in the other room watching you kids on the nanny cam.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 04, 2014, 08:06:10 PM
Quote from: historyman on December 04, 2014, 10:32:38 AMNow there's a guy with a good stream!
please tell me that was a photoshop.  otherwise that's ... that's terrible.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 04, 2014, 08:07:08 PM
Bears repeating (from FWAlum's great article):
Quote"First of all, Valparaiso's one of the best-coached teams in the country. Bryce (Drew) does a phenomenal job, and he's done a phenomenal job for several years now," EKU Coach Jeff Neubauer said. "Obviously Al Peters is a high-level player and ... offensively, he literally is one of those matchups that is almost impossible. He really knows how to score the ball, he rebounds the ball, he shoots threes. We got to him several times and contested, but he's 6-foot-9 and just shoots it as pure as can be. So I think comparisons to Doug McDermott (of the Chicago Bulls), they make a lot of sense."

Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2014/12/03/3574146_valparaiso-jolts-eastern-kentucky.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy (http://www.kentucky.com/2014/12/03/3574146_valparaiso-jolts-eastern-kentucky.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy)

It's one thing when WE say it...
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: historyman on December 04, 2014, 08:26:39 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 04, 2014, 08:06:10 PM
Quote from: historyman on December 04, 2014, 10:32:38 AMNow there's a guy with a good stream!
please tell me that was a photoshop.  otherwise that's ... that's terrible.



In some sense the whole thing is photoshoped. The water is coming from behind a screen and that is a scoreboard like projection of the statue on the screen. The actual photo is real. Yes, it's terrible....but very interesting.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: a3uge on December 04, 2014, 08:52:33 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 04, 2014, 08:06:10 PM
Quote from: historyman on December 04, 2014, 10:32:38 AMNow there's a guy with a good stream!
please tell me that was a photoshop.  otherwise that's ... that's terrible.

It's clearly a photoshop.

Heres the original:

(http://i.imgur.com/6f4QmN1.png)
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: agibson on December 05, 2014, 05:26:42 PM
Quote from: historyman on December 03, 2014, 08:38:21 PMAnyone else have issues with the stream freezing?

It was pretty awful.  At the time, it was actually about what I needed, since I had some grading that needed to happen.  So, I could tune in for a bit, wait until it froze, grade some more, refresh it, watch a bit, etc.

Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: agibson on December 05, 2014, 05:31:13 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 02, 2014, 11:58:11 PM
whoa WWII ended a lot more recently than i previously thought

Yeah, that caught my eye as well.

What was the other recent one?  It seemed likely to be true but difficult to follow at first read.  "Valparaiso has won six consecutive games away from home, a streak that has likely never been replicated in program history. The last time the Crusaders had six road wins in a row was 2002-03."  Complimenting the reader, I suppose, by not clarifying it any further.
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: agibson on December 05, 2014, 05:36:31 PM
Quote from: StlVUFan on December 04, 2014, 03:53:47 PM
Unfortunately, I'm not feeling comfortable with the idea of going to Windows 8 yet ;)

There's always MacOS!
Title: Re: Valpo (7-1) @ E. Kentucky (4-1), Wed. 12/03/14, 6:00 PM CT
Post by: historyman on December 05, 2014, 07:58:41 PM
Nice to have you back for what could be a very memorable basketball season, agibson!