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Title: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: talksalot on January 09, 2013, 09:40:32 PM
SO... Milwaukee is not having a good season.  to wit:

11/11/12    at South Carolina TV    Columbia, SC    L, 82-75
11/17/12    vs. Davidson TV    Klotsche Center    W, 73-68
11/19/12    at Arkansas-Little Rock    Little Rock, Ark.    L, 59-43
11/24/12    vs. Jacksonville    Puerto Vallerta, Mexico    L, 71-66
11/25/12    vs. Rider    Puerto Vallerta, Mexico    L, 74-60
12/01/12    at Northern Iowa TV    Cedar Falls, Iowa    L, 72-61
12/05/12    vs. Buffalo    Klotsche Center    L, 52-72
12/07/12    vs. Northern Illinois    Klotsche Center    W, 80-73 (OT)
12/09/12    at DePaul    Rosemont, Ill.    L, 84-50
12/12/12    at Fairfield    Bridgeport, Conn.    L, 62-46
12/15/12    vs. Tennessee Tech TV    Klotsche Center    L, 69-58
12/22/12    at Wisconsin TV    Madison, Wis.    L, 74-53
12/29/12    vs. Ohio Dominican    Klotsche Center    W, 95-80
01/03/13    at Detroit TV    Detroit, Mich.    L, 74-59
01/05/13    at Wright State    Dayton, Ohio    L, 53-51

1-12 in the last 13, and that one was an OT win at home against Northern Illinois.  But i will say that game against Wright State was a nail biter.

Anyone going to the Klotsche Center for the 1PM tip?  We have Student Bus(s) and at least one "alumni" bus heading up...  Let's make it a VU home game in their 3,750 seat arena.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on January 09, 2013, 09:44:09 PM
PANTHERQUEST

http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=1134.msg22669#new (http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=1134.msg22669#new)
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: swiftmutiny on January 09, 2013, 10:16:53 PM
I'll be at this game with the student fan bus. Can't wait!

Valpo 70
Milwaukee 56
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: HC on January 09, 2013, 11:08:06 PM
That bus is sold out! Have a great time!
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: valpotx on January 10, 2013, 01:46:52 AM
Good to hear we have some fans going up. 

Valpo 73
Milwaukee 61
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: valpopal on January 10, 2013, 07:51:43 AM
Valpo 78
UWM  66
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: talksalot on January 10, 2013, 09:51:08 AM
I'm thinking... Good VU Crowd, Smaller Arena... Valpo 78 Milw 54
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: vu72 on January 10, 2013, 10:42:29 AM
A weird game.  Very hard to predict which team will show up, the one that beat Davidson, lost to South Carolina by 7 on the road, or more recently lost to WSU by 2 also on the road, or, the team that lost to DePaul by 34.  I think that we will get a good game from them--playing against Valpo is always an incentive.

I like the way we are playing right now, Valpo by 7 62-55
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on January 10, 2013, 11:03:37 AM
...again, though, don't overreact to the name "south carolina"...South Carolina is currently ranked 224 (RealTime).

South Carolina UPSTATE...currently ranked 194.  They're ahead of the BCS school.

For point of reference, the South Carolina team they played so well on the road is in fact worse than Green Bay (222).

Now, Davidson, that's the inexplicable one, that's true.

But JORDAN AARON, man...like Kobe without the success rate.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: covufan on January 10, 2013, 12:17:57 PM
Good crowd, good brats, good cheese, good BEvERages, and a very good outcome.

Valpo   -   76
Milw     -   58
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: Valpo89 on January 10, 2013, 01:05:49 PM
Is anyone else here shedding tears like I am over Milwaukee and Cleveland State being down this year?  ;D
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: covufan on January 10, 2013, 02:00:09 PM
Quote from: Valpo89 on January 10, 2013, 01:05:49 PM
Is anyone else here shedding tears like I am over Milwaukee and Cleveland State being down this year?  ;D
Tears - not so much.  But I do realize that what goes around, comes around.  In the 2008-09 season, the RPI rankings of the Horizon League had two teams at the bottom:

http://realtimerpi.com/2008-2009/rpi_horiz_Men.html (http://realtimerpi.com/2008-2009/rpi_horiz_Men.html)

And in '12-13, those teams are at or near the top:

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_horiz_Men.html (http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_horiz_Men.html)

Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: talksalot on January 10, 2013, 02:32:01 PM
OK... just saw the Crusader and IMC folks at lunch today drumming up some business... seems there are 22 seats left on the Student Bus.  For $25 they get the bus ride, game ticket, lunch buffet (Salmon, Chicken or Beef) that INCLUDES BEER /WINE for those over 21.   They just started putting up signs...signup through email to:  VALPOATHLETICS@VALPO.EDU. 
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: vu72 on January 10, 2013, 03:06:43 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on January 10, 2013, 11:03:37 AM
...again, though, don't overreact to the name "south carolina"...South Carolina is currently ranked 224 (RealTime).

South Carolina UPSTATE...currently ranked 194.  They're ahead of the BCS school.

For point of reference, the South Carolina team they played so well on the road is in fact worse than Green Bay (222).

Now, Davidson, that's the inexplicable one, that's true.

But JORDAN AARON, man...like Kobe without the success rate.

OK, How do you explain losing to WSU by 2 on the road?  These guys are hard to figure unless WSU is also a fraud (like UICs record may not have truly shown their ability)
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: agibson on January 10, 2013, 03:09:23 PM
Quote from: covufan on January 10, 2013, 02:00:09 PMIn the 2008-09 season, the RPI rankings of the Horizon League had two teams at the bottom:

http://realtimerpi.com/2008-2009/rpi_horiz_Men.html (http://realtimerpi.com/2008-2009/rpi_horiz_Men.html)

Wow - I won't think I realized how high the top was that year

24    Butler    16-4     25-5    0.6084    96     0.5319
52    Cleveland St.    16-6     22-10    0.5754    114     0.5227
71    Wisc. Green Bay    13-6     21-9    0.5580    158     0.4966
93    Wright St. 14-7 20-13

Though 2010-2011 was fairly similar (but with Valpo in the number three slot).

Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: crusadermoe on January 10, 2013, 03:36:29 PM
$25 ??     Wow.     That's tempting enough to get yourself up early and just fight through the fact that you spent a late night at one of the poetry readings. 
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: valpotx on January 10, 2013, 04:17:41 PM
It was also the year that Haanpaa and Bouchie left us late in the summer period, not allowing for us to recover to get anyone else of worth into the team.  I wouldn't read too much into us going from second to last that year to champion last year, as it was a fluke occurrence that put us near the bottom
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: swiftmutiny on January 11, 2013, 06:56:30 PM
The student fan bus is sold out! Can't wait for tomorrow!
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: HC on January 11, 2013, 07:54:13 PM
Valpo an 11 point favorite now. 2 full busses of fans...Valpo taking over Milwaukee!
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: Smj on January 11, 2013, 09:52:52 PM
My family will be at the game...   Can't wait  :-)

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: rink on January 12, 2013, 12:12:10 AM
I'll be in attendance, along with wifey, uncle ('92 ?), and aunt.  Last time seeing Rowdy in person, gonna do my best to appreciate it ... win, lose, or draw.

Someone mentioned beer.  Since this is at the Klotche Center (on campus?) instead of US Cellular Arena (off campus), I'm thinking there will be no beer sales during the game?  Luckily, plenty of libations about town for post-game NFL playoffs enjoyment....
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: crusaderjoe on January 12, 2013, 07:48:13 AM
Quote from: crusadermoe on January 10, 2013, 03:36:29 PM
$25 ??     Wow.     That's tempting enough to get yourself up early and just fight through the fact that you spent a late night at one of the poetry readings.

How did I miss this comment? That's hysterical.

lulz

Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: VUfan on January 12, 2013, 09:31:50 AM
Valpo 66 UWM 55 watch it UWM is at home and Mr. Jeter's teams play Valpo tough! :)
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: SadersofthelostArc on January 12, 2013, 09:35:41 AM
Valpo by 17.  Broeky puts up a double-double and Cool Ranch goes for 20.  Also expecting a breakout game for Jordan Coleman...by the end of the night we may not be calling him COLE-man, it may be DIAMOND-man.   :rotfl:
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: bbtds on January 12, 2013, 09:40:49 AM
Valpo           77
Milwaukee   62
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on January 12, 2013, 10:09:06 AM
The Only Game Preview You Will Ever Need

Teams, records:  you know that stuff already or you're on the wrong site.
where to watch:  yada yada

Relevant info
Tempo-free stats
POINTS PER POSSESSION:  Valpo 1.02 (2nd in HL), Milwaukee .85 (last. by a lot.)
POINTS ALLOWED PER POSS:  Valpo .9 (2nd), Milwaukee 1.03 (9th)
Basically, every 8 possessions, Valpo goes one point up on their opponents; every 11 possessions, Milwaukee goes down two.  Valpo has the best differential in the league, Milwaukee the worst.  But as BigDWSU says, "predictions?  hah!  after all, ze game must be played!".  And then, I imagine, he twirls his mustache.

Possessions per game (tempo):  Valpo 66.2 (4th), Milwaukee 63.5 (8th)
So...if this game were played at Valpo's average, we win by 8; if by theirs, we win by 11.  Your choice, Milwaukee!

eFG%:  Valpo 53% (1st in HL; only Det is over 50% and them just barely), Milwaukee 43.5% (guess.)

Q. Would it surprise you to know that the only tempo-free stat that should give us cause for alarm, the only one that Milwaukee is better than us in, is TURNOVER RATE?  A.  No.  No it would not.  We are last at 23, Milw 8th at 21.6.  Detroit is #1 at 15...

KNOW THINE ENEMY:
DANGERMOUSE: (http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/5768/663356-dangermouse_large.jpg)(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/05qC2Roe0pfUI/350x.jpg)
G PARIS GULLEY, 6'2", 170: (15.6 PPG; 44% 2s / 34 % 3s) is rounding into a dangerous outside threat (18 ppg in last 4, incl. 16 vs. Wisconsin), although he appears above to not have much of a taste for defense.  So of COURSE he shoots less/has a lower usage rate than

PENFOLD:  (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/8/85474/2557737-penfold1_large.jpg)(http://binaryapi.ap.org/bcf1c2c6c9cd4083ad5b0c5dfd788c38/940x.jpg)
This is no contest, if you've been following PANTHERQUEST 2013.  G JORDAN AARON, 5'10" 160: is #HLPOY2013!  He shoots too much for someone who doesn't shoot well:  39 2s / 32 3s.  He turns the ball over twice as much as anyone on the team (more than Broekhoff and Kenney put together).  So OF COURSE HE LEADS THE CONFERENCE IN % OF MINUTES PLAYED this year, 89% (97.5% in conference games!  If you're not first, you're last, Ray McCallum Jr!)!!!  (He's also not tall, as you can see.)

AND he gets even worse in conference play.  He averages 16 shots per game and gets all of 10.5 ppg for it.  Just for fun, I decided to figure out "points per 40 min played":

JORDAN AARON, HL 2013:  10.77 pts/40
GRIFFYN CARPENTER, 2011-12:  9.1 pts/40

You're welcome.

THE PART WHERE I PREDICT THE SAME THING THAT RPIFORECAST DOES:  Valpo by 12.  85% chance of win today.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: justducky on January 12, 2013, 12:18:09 PM
Have not seen Milwaukee play so have no idea of the matchup problems or opportunities. Any chance that if we get off to a good start we might see a little Ryan at the 3 in the go big option?

That said, if we don't play this game smart and hard it could be a long bus ride home, because anybody can beat you.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: HC on January 12, 2013, 12:23:41 PM
Milwaukee has Ben solid for about the first half then their mistakes catch up with them and they implode...at least that is what has happened when I've watched them.  You are right though, any team can beat you. Especially when you are on the road. I will say Valpo by 17.

Would like to see CSU play physical with Detroit this afternoon.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: rink on January 12, 2013, 01:37:53 PM
Our offense came out hot, then UWM switched to a zone after the 16:00 break and we have been playing clueless ever since. Free throw line is wide open for midrange jumpers, but we refuse to take advantage of it.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: valpo64 on January 12, 2013, 01:49:55 PM
Isn't the UWM game on the Horizon League Network? Or perhaps on Comcast Midwest?
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: bbtds on January 12, 2013, 01:50:27 PM
Quote from: valpo64 on January 12, 2013, 01:49:55 PM
Isn't the UWM game on the Horizon League Network? Or perhaps on Comcast Midwest?

ESPN 3
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: valpo64 on January 12, 2013, 01:54:08 PM
Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: oklahomamick on January 12, 2013, 01:56:28 PM
We started to shoot out of the zone towards the end of half. 
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: rink on January 12, 2013, 02:15:00 PM
Mostly because UWM was missing shots on offense and couldn't get set on defense.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: bbtds on January 12, 2013, 02:26:30 PM
Suddenly Valpo commits 3 turnovers and Milwaukee has climbed back into this game.  Lead is now down to 14. I don't understand at all why this team doesn't value ball possession. It's extremely frustrating.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: oklahomamick on January 12, 2013, 02:57:50 PM
expected win against UWM.  Beat the Vegas Spread of -12. 
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: HC on January 12, 2013, 03:07:05 PM
Ryan is pretty good.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: valpotx on January 12, 2013, 03:32:59 PM
Great game, and one in which we had more assists than turnovers!  I believe that is only the second time this year against D-1 competition that we have done that?  Monster game again from Rowdy.  He just seems to be everywhere so often.  A ball goes off the rim, Rowdy is right there all alone, the next shot goes among the trees, and Rowdy skies over everyone.  Such a fun player to watch, and I still liken him to Lubos in overall game, which is a very good player to be compared to (one of the tops in European basketball)
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: SadersofthelostArc on January 12, 2013, 04:15:10 PM
I was right about Broeky's double-double, a little off on my Cool Ranch prediction.  May have to start calling him Taco Flavored if he keeps this up....pretty good, but not a delicious performance!
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: vu72 on January 12, 2013, 06:30:07 PM
Watched the entire game an now have it set up so I can watch the Horizon League broadcast on my flat screen and, put the sound feed through my tv as well! (stop laughing--I am old and electronically challenged!)

Rowdy with an All american performance and after watching Ray Jr play the entire game versus CSU, feel strongly that Ryan, at this point, is the POY. Second in scoring to a guy who takes a lot more shots and first (by a fair amount) in boards. Nuff said.

Matt and Will are struggling offensively but Will did one heck of a job on defense.  If either starts playing to their abilities we will be very difficult to stop. I think we are finally gelling!!
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: SadersofthelostArc on January 12, 2013, 06:39:04 PM
BTW, I want to give a huge shout out to my guy Apostle for a wonderful scouting report.  Would love to see more of these in the future.

Also, anyone else find it funny that the guy who started this thread---talksalot---is not here talking up the game (a lot)? lol
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on January 12, 2013, 06:59:38 PM
Thanks, man.  Called Dangermouse and Penfold right, but then again, pretty easy with this team.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: SadersofthelostArc on January 12, 2013, 07:44:08 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on January 12, 2013, 06:59:38 PM
Thanks, man.  Called Dangermouse and Penfold right, but then again, pretty easy with this team.

Granted, those were no brainers, but I think you're being a BIT too modest...;)
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: swiftmutiny on January 12, 2013, 07:49:43 PM
Had a blast at the game! A good showing on the road today.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: oklahomamick on January 12, 2013, 08:51:46 PM
Quote from: vu72 on January 12, 2013, 06:30:07 PMRowdy with an All american performance and after watching Ray Jr play the entire game versus CSU, feel strongly that Ryan, at this point, is the POY. Second in scoring to a guy who takes a lot more shots and first (by a fair amount) in boards. Nuff said.

I agree with you but on the other side of the argument is Ray is 1st in steals and 2nd in assist.   
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: HC on January 12, 2013, 08:57:19 PM
http://sectionee.blogspot.com/2013/01/valpo-victory-at-milwaukee.html (http://sectionee.blogspot.com/2013/01/valpo-victory-at-milwaukee.html)
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: agibson on January 12, 2013, 09:04:58 PM
Quote from: SadersofthelostArc on January 12, 2013, 06:39:04 PMAlso, anyone else find it funny that the guy who started this thread---talksalot---is not here talking up the game (a lot)? lol

He wandered past the ESPN camera during the post game.  So, he presumably wasn't available for game day talking-up duties.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: talksalot on January 12, 2013, 11:08:41 PM
Hi Folks... Just got back... went to the game with the wife and brother-in-law/wife... did the Wisconsin Cheese Factory, Dinner... and flipped on the forum to check on the CSU Undoing of Detroit...Yes, it was a fun home game today.  The UWM Pep Band playing right into the hands of the VuCruw... sorry,  ValpaRaZone attendants.  My wife said she counted 8 UWM students at the game.  All of the Little Kids in their #6 jerseys were certainly NOT there to cheer on the panthers... it was absolutely a home game for our guys.  BTW, if you were on the non-student charter bus coming back tonight, I had to swerve to avoid your bus pulling out of the Lake Forest Oasis!    Anyway... Nice game for Rowdy...That game on Thursday will be a great one that I'll have to miss in person.   One question... will National Talk like a Pirate Day come to the ARC with Haaaaaarsma comes to down?   Their PA was really playing into the hands of our student section.   and I'm probably the only one who noticed that he said Valpo Ball on our out of bounds' plays.   I was waiting for the Crusader Basketball announcement to make it a complete home game.   I could learn to like the Klotsche Center.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: historyman on January 13, 2013, 01:08:35 AM
Quote from: vu72 on January 12, 2013, 06:30:07 PMWatched the entire game an now have it set up so I can watch the Horizon League broadcast on my flat screen and, put the sound feed through my tv as well! (stop laughing--I am old and electronically challenged!)

Believe it or not there are probably still a bunch of posters on this board who are your age that wish they had the hardware and the knowledge to do this. I just learned to do this last year and I'm really enjoying it now on my bigger flat screen. Kudos, vu72! You're ahead of the game.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: valpotx on January 13, 2013, 02:30:15 AM
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 12, 2013, 08:51:46 PM
Quote from: vu72 on January 12, 2013, 06:30:07 PMRowdy with an All american performance and after watching Ray Jr play the entire game versus CSU, feel strongly that Ryan, at this point, is the POY. Second in scoring to a guy who takes a lot more shots and first (by a fair amount) in boards. Nuff said.

I agree with you but on the other side of the argument is Ray is 1st in steals and 2nd in assist.   

Don't forget he is 1st in the league in b&tching about calls as well.

We almost didn't mention a very solid looking play by Vashil near the end, when Milwaukee still had in their starting lineup.  He took down the offensive rebound, and put up a decently quick little baby hook shot, that swished through the twine.  Hopefully that is a sign of him improving based on practices and getting more basketball under his belt.  He actually received a close bounce pass for a dunk earlier as well.  He has struggled with those this year
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: Smj on January 13, 2013, 11:15:16 AM
Great game to be at....   Even better because when I got home I was able to watch plays again on ESPN3. 

Ryan had 7 threes - wow, what can you even say.   It was awesome - he came in and set the tone immediately.   new respect for Bogan's defense - he was working his ass off.   Vashil was able to catch passes - something he was having difficulty with earlier.  On defense if he learns that it is okay to just let a player shoot over him he will develop into a great option for Valpo.   All-in-all we looked good and UWM was missing their shots because most were well contested.  Great game!!!

(Last time I saw UWM - I hated the game.   Edwards got kicked out, Kenny got a technical and Ryan got boo'ed by UWM students because Allen came flying out of control and ran into Ryan under the basket and lost his footing.   I had seen two games at UWM and I did not much care for the negative atmosphere.  And really did not like Williams.   He sounded like an ass after a game where he hit a last minute shot and said in an interview "big player make big plays" about himself.  This UWM team did not seem as ... "mean" or "filthy" or ... "vile" - cant find the right word?)

Also a significant difference not having UWM students there.   Even though our student section was pushed into an upper corner they were louder than the few UWM students that showed up.

Quote from: Rink
I'll be in attendance, along with wifey, uncle ('92 ?), and aunt. Last time seeing Rowdy in person, gonna do my best to appreciate it ... win, lose, or draw.
Maybe you can see him in the NBA next year....
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: HC on January 13, 2013, 11:32:08 AM
Quote from: Smj on January 13, 2013, 11:15:16 AMAlso a significant difference not having UWM students there.   Even though our student section was pushed into an upper corner they were louder than the few UWM students that showed up.

This made me smile  ;D
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: wh on January 13, 2013, 01:43:06 PM
Quote from: Smj on January 13, 2013, 11:15:16 AM

Even though our student section was pushed into an upper corner they were louder than the few UWM students that showed up.


What do you mean?  Didn't you have assigned seats?
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: Smj on January 13, 2013, 02:09:56 PM
Quote from: wh on January 13, 2013, 01:43:06 PM
What do you mean?  Didn't you have assigned seats?

It was assigned but the students were way up in a corner.   I guess I just like it when I see the student sections under the basket.   However, our student fans were loud, even though they were not down by the court...  Really glad to see a great group of student fans!!! 

(I was sitting with the ... um ... older VU fans - closer to my age.  We were behind the bench.  There were a couple guys in the last row that were very vocal ...  I got a smile from them a few times during the game.)
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: wh on January 13, 2013, 03:31:48 PM
Nice comments about Valpo's performance from Coach Jeter.  Seems like a class guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zeY-8A6MMY&feature=player_embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zeY-8A6MMY&feature=player_embedded#)!

Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: Smj on January 13, 2013, 05:05:54 PM
Good Valpo post game here:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MWqOCLsHy7U (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MWqOCLsHy7U)
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: StlVUFan on January 13, 2013, 05:21:42 PM
Quote from: Smj on January 13, 2013, 05:05:54 PM
Good Valpo post game here:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MWqOCLsHy7U (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MWqOCLsHy7U)

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Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: vusupporter on January 13, 2013, 05:41:28 PM
Just replace the 'm' with 'www' - he probably viewed it on a mobile device.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: wh on January 13, 2013, 05:45:45 PM
MBB Post-Game: Valparaiso (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWqOCLsHy7U#ws)
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: Smj on January 13, 2013, 06:38:08 PM
Quote from: vusupporter on January 13, 2013, 05:41:28 PM
Just replace the 'm' with 'www' - he probably viewed it on a mobile device.
Yep - iPad...    (Sorry)
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: StlVUFan on January 13, 2013, 07:44:41 PM
Quote from: Smj on January 13, 2013, 06:38:08 PM
Quote from: vusupporter on January 13, 2013, 05:41:28 PM
Just replace the 'm' with 'www' - he probably viewed it on a mobile device.
Yep - iPad...    (Sorry)

Thanks, I failed to notice the m. in front.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: chipper955 on January 14, 2013, 03:56:31 PM
Quote from: Smj on January 13, 2013, 02:09:56 PM
Quote from: wh on January 13, 2013, 01:43:06 PM
What do you mean?  Didn't you have assigned seats?

It was assigned but the students were way up in a corner.   I guess I just like it when I see the student sections under the basket.   However, our student fans were loud, even though they were not down by the court...  Really glad to see a great group of student fans!!! 

(I was sitting with the ... um ... older VU fans - closer to my age.  We were behind the bench.  There were a couple guys in the last row that were very vocal ...  I got a smile from them a few times during the game.)

That might have been my friend and I.  We were sitting in row U, the very last row.  We were already excited to be at the game, and then you add in the few drinks we had before the game,  needless to say we had a great time.

The alumni event was great.  We went to Milwaukee a couple of years ago for the Horizon League Tournament and the turn out for those alumni events were nothing like this past weekend.  I would like to thank Andy again for opening his house to everyone.  His house is quite impressive and it's so great that he is willing to host an event like this.  If you didn't go this time, I would highly recommend going next time if they ever do something like this again.

By the way, as I was leaving with a couple of minutes left in the game I walked by the Valpo bench and told Fernandez that he had a nice dunk.  I didn't expect him to even acknowledge me, but he turned around and smiled and gave me a thumbs up.  Made my day.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: swiftmutiny on January 14, 2013, 04:05:27 PM
Quote from: chipper955 on January 14, 2013, 03:56:31 PM
By the way, as I was leaving with a couple of minutes left in the game I walked by the Valpo bench and told Fernandez that he had a nice dunk.  I didn't expect him to even acknowledge me, but he turned around and smiled and gave me a thumbs up.  Made my day.
Vashil is a good guy. He came out to the student bus right before we left the Klotsche, thanked everybody and went down the aisle giving everyone high fives. Matt Kenney and one of the assistant coaches thanked us and saw us off as well. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: Smj on January 14, 2013, 09:56:50 PM
Quote from: chipper955 on January 14, 2013, 03:56:31 PM
That might have been my friend and I.  We were sitting in row U, the very last row.  We were already excited to be at the game, and then you add in the few drinks we had before the game,  needless to say we had a great time.
I was with my wife and my son.   During the drive home we were talking and he mentioned that we all laughed when you guys yelled something about a UWM player that got his fourth foul....   Do you remember what it was exactly - I couldn't remember?

Quote from: swiftmutiny on January 14, 2013, 04:05:27 PM
Vashil is a good guy. He came out to the student bus right before we left the Klotsche, thanked everybody and went down the aisle giving everyone high fives. Matt Kenney and one of the assistant coaches thanked us and saw us off as well. :thumbsup:
One thing I have always enjoyed about following Valpo ball is the players - class acts...    Last year at a game the players all gave my son high fives and it was the highlight of the night.   (Sometimes the little things make a big difference.)
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: StlVUFan on January 14, 2013, 11:02:35 PM
Quote from: Smj on January 14, 2013, 09:56:50 PM
Quote from: chipper955 on January 14, 2013, 03:56:31 PM
That might have been my friend and I.  We were sitting in row U, the very last row.  We were already excited to be at the game, and then you add in the few drinks we had before the game,  needless to say we had a great time.
I was with my wife and my son.   During the drive home we were talking and he mentioned that we all laughed when you guys yelled something about a UWM player that got his fourth foul....   Do you remember what it was exactly - I couldn't remember?

I bet I know: "4 FOULS????  Uh-oh, he's in FOUL TROUBLE!!!!"  When I learned this one at the 2000 Great Alaska Shootout, I thought it was cute.  Now, I'm not so sure.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: valpotx on January 15, 2013, 11:27:55 AM
I enjoyed the 'you suck' chants during The Hey Song when I was in school.  That was promptly taken away my last year of school when the administrators finally understood what was being said  ;D
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: FWalum on January 15, 2013, 04:07:33 PM
Quote from: valpotx on January 15, 2013, 11:27:55 AM
I enjoyed the 'you suck' chants during The Hey Song when I was in school.  That was promptly taken away my last year of school when the administrators finally understood what was being said  ;D
Maybe it is just me, but I have always found that phrase particularly disgusting.

Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: valporun on January 15, 2013, 04:10:29 PM
tx, the administrators knew what the VU Cru meant, they were just too liberal in giving them more chances to go with it because The Hey Song is a major part of everyone's college basketball experience. I heard the details about this every time the band couldn't play the Hey Song at games. Of course, it never really stopped someone who wasn't exactly a member of VU Cru's mailing list to screw that up, and everyone else going along with it.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: agibson on January 15, 2013, 04:17:08 PM
Quote from: valpotx on January 15, 2013, 11:27:55 AM
I enjoyed the 'you suck' chants during The Hey Song when I was in school.  That was promptly taken away my last year of school when the administrators finally understood what was being said  ;D

I'm still impressed that V-A-L, P-A-R, A-I-S, O was successfully substituted for another less savory phrase.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: valporun on January 15, 2013, 04:23:48 PM
agibson, I guess it was the way of keeping The Hey Song clean for the kids in the crowd...
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: wh on January 15, 2013, 04:29:54 PM
One that I don't ever get tired of is the "Left, right, left, right, sit down!" chant when an opposing player fouls out and walks toward the bench.  Some players seem to get pretty bothered by it, which makes it that much funnier.

Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: agibson on January 15, 2013, 04:50:10 PM
I'm still waiting to hear "double digits", and "Winning team, losing team" in person.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: StlVUFan on January 15, 2013, 07:50:28 PM
Quote from: agibson on January 15, 2013, 04:17:08 PM
Quote from: valpotx on January 15, 2013, 11:27:55 AM
I enjoyed the 'you suck' chants during The Hey Song when I was in school.  That was promptly taken away my last year of school when the administrators finally understood what was being said  ;D

I'm still impressed that V-A-L, P-A-R, A-I-S, O was successfully substituted for another less savory phrase.
I will forever wish that they had come up with something else.  Turning it into a spelling bee always struck me as weak.  If it was a dig against the mangling of the town's name by outsiders, spelling it out doesn't get the job done.  Pronouncing it would be better.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on January 15, 2013, 08:20:11 PM
That was substituted for something else?

As a musician it always troubled me what a poor fit that was syntactically...  What were they expurgating?
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: Smj on January 15, 2013, 08:56:24 PM
I will save everyone the trouble of replying to this telling me that I'm an old fart...   I already know.   

I want to say that I like that our players and fans have class.   I have found some cheering to be rude...   players get technicals for trash talking so fans should be respectful as well...   I remember when I was in high school the coach stopped a game to walk over to the student section because the cheering was not respectful of players that are all trying to win and enjoy playing for their team.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: talksalot on January 15, 2013, 09:08:09 PM
The Left Right Left Right for the guy who just fouled out is fairly obnoxious... and the I've noticed that some of the guys will wait to sit down until the instant the guy is ready to shoot the free-throws... so the crowd yells at the wrong time...
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: agibson on January 15, 2013, 10:39:06 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on January 15, 2013, 08:20:11 PM
That was substituted for something else?

As a musician it always troubled me what a poor fit that was syntactically...  What were they expurgating?

It used to be "We're gonna beat the ---- out of you.  Let's go Valpo, let's go Valpo."

Sometimes they might have edited it down to "heck".
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: hailcrusaders on January 15, 2013, 11:14:15 PM
Quote from: agibson on January 15, 2013, 10:39:06 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on January 15, 2013, 08:20:11 PM
That was substituted for something else?

As a musician it always troubled me what a poor fit that was syntactically...  What were they expurgating?

Ditto what agibson said. Youtube "Hey Song University of Dayton" (NSFW, of course). I also know the University of Minnesota does "Beat 'em up, beat 'em up, shove 'em up your a**holes!" I'm sure every school has its variants. Of course, Valpo's is more PG-rated.

Quote from: agibson on January 15, 2013, 04:50:10 PM
I'm still waiting to hear "double digits", and "Winning team, losing team" in person.

We tried to get "Winning Team, Losing Team" started at the NIU game, but the problem is it requires a lot of organization and everyone knowing what we're doing. Which is tougher with large crowds. And I'm sure we'll do "Double Digits" next time Milwaukee comes to town  ;)
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: valpotx on January 17, 2013, 08:51:23 PM
After this Detroit game, it just makes me respect Milwaukee's coach even more.  Jeter seems to be one of the classier guys, whereas we have Ray Sr and Waters on the other side of the coin.  It looks like they will get their first conference win tonight if they can hold on
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: historyman on January 17, 2013, 11:38:00 PM
Quote from: valpotx on January 17, 2013, 08:51:23 PMAfter this Detroit game, it just makes me respect Milwaukee's coach even more.  Jeter seems to be one of the classier guys, whereas we have Ray Sr and Waters on the other side of the coin.  It looks like they will get their first conference win tonight if they can hold on

If you watched the press conference you'll see Ray Sr gave a lot of credit to Valpo for the way the Crusaders played in the 2nd half and at the end of the game. He mentioned that Valpo was the defending HL regular season champion.

Of course he took no blame for the awful coaching in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: StlVUFan on January 18, 2013, 01:10:48 AM
Minnerath was quite mature in his answers too, not cracking a smile when tossed a softball question.  His attitude read: "Not good enough, no matter how great an individual game I had."
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: Smj on January 18, 2013, 07:25:35 AM

I didn't really see anything inappropriate or "un-classy" during the McCallum post-game interview.    I just felt that Jeter's post game interview showed a more well-spoken approach to a loss.
Title: Re: 1/12 Valpo @ UWM Game Thread
Post by: valpotx on January 18, 2013, 10:51:17 AM
Just about any coach or player is going to be better behaved during a post-game interview.  During a game, both Minnerath and Ray Sr are not mature