One at a Time.
Where we stand so far...
13-1 in the ARC this year, second best record in ARC History (14-0 94-95)
11 Wins in a row in the ARC
7 overall wins in a row
8-0 at home in the HL for the first time undefeated in HL in the ARC
This Detroit game will be game #30. We are 5-3 in the last 8 years in game #30 on the season.
With the win tonight, the season-point differential has fallen behind 2001-02 (11.58 to 11.48), still good for 4th best in School History.
February 25th ... a 20-year history....
2/25/14... lost at Wright State 67-58
2/25/08... Won at Milwaukee 66-57
2/25/06... Lost at ORU 87-78
2/25/98... Won in ARC over Western Illinois 66-56
HL Historic Road Games in Calihan Hall
1/15/14 - VU 78-70
1/17/13 - VU 89-88
1/6/12 - VU 73-71
1/16/11 - VU 78-68
1/8/10 - UDM 77-67
2/7/09 - UDM 56-55
12/8/07 - VU 81-68
UDM this year at home:
Wins over: Rochester, South Alabama, Aquinas College, South Florida, Milwaukee, Oakland, Youngstown and Cleveland State
Losses to: Bowling Green State, Wichita State, Oral Roberts, Green Bay, Wright State and UIC.
Win and we host the tournament!!
For the regular season title, we will be ready to play!
Valpo 72
Detroit 63
Gotta win this game in order to make the ncaa championship
I meant horizon league championship
Detroit has nothing to gain since they've locked up the 5 spot.
Valpo comes in on a mission and wins by 13, 71-58!
Horizon League should move its operations to Valpo.
Detroit 67-62, I think we are getting the wagon ahead of the horse.
Quote from: HC on February 22, 2015, 04:48:47 PMHorizon League should move its operations to Valpo.
Eh, no!
LeCrone likes his Geist Reservoir area home too much.
The HL stayed in Indy due to proximity to the NCAA headquarters and to make sure IUPUI stayed in the Summit League. ;D
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 22, 2015, 04:56:28 PM
Detroit 67-62, I think we are getting the wagon ahead of the horse.
Sorry, but nope, IMO. No tarp.
I had no idea that the first time Valpo ever played Detroit was in 1921. It was a loss (22-16) according to the archives. Anyway, we continue to close and avenge the loss from 94 years ago.
Quote from: Valpofan02 on February 22, 2015, 04:39:12 PM
Gotta win this game in order to make the ncaa championship
Quote from: Valpofan02 on February 22, 2015, 04:39:39 PM
I meant horizon league championship
Technically, not at all.
We get to close this thing out on four days rest as opposed to two. No tarp.
We still need to win both games. Could mean a big difference in seeding for the NCAA Tournament.
Quote from: crusaderjoe on February 22, 2015, 05:01:38 PMIt was a loss (22-16) according to the archives. Anyway, we continue to close and avenge the loss from 94 years ago.
I remember it like it was yesterday but where was I yesterday?
Lets just play like we have played all season and everything else will take care of itself. VU 74 DMU 66 ;)
Of all Horizon League teams, Detroit is the worst matchup for us. It will be a tough game; they'll be ready to play, but Valpo--knowing they're the #1 if they win--will prevail. No sense in making @CSU a must-win.
Valpo 63
Detroit 60
Horizon League NCAA Stat Comparison through 2/21 games...
Valpo Detroit
PPG 71.5 #3 71.4 #4
OPPG 60.0 #1 71.3 #7
FG% 46.7 #1 44.5 #6
GF%D 38.0 #1 44.8 #4
3PT/G 6.8 #4 7.1 #2
3PT% 37.9 #2 38.8 #1
FT% 67.3 #8 68.8 #6
RDiff 8.4 #1 -0.2 #5
Ast/G 13.5 #5 13.7 #4
TurnO 376 #8 398 #9
Ast/To 1.04 #7 1.03 #8
Blk/G 4.7 #2 3.2 #3
Stls/G 6.2 #4 7.8 #2 (Detroit #11 in nation in total Steals)
Fouls 483 #2 639 #9
Fls/G 16.7 #1 21.3 #9
Rebnds 1,116 #1 1,015 #2 (Valpo is #7 in nation)
OReb/G 11.93 #2 10.33 #4
DReb/G 26.55 #1 23.5 #4
I think Tevonn goin to catch him some Bass. He goin to take that Bass to da hole. He goin to get big dunk on. Tevonn is using his brain to outsmart that Paris. Tevonn goin to show Paris that french language is language of the D-I baller. Tevonn expects to do some damage on da Bass.
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I believe Tevonn is looking to shut up that smallmouth Bass. Honing his tournament skills to a higher level, a level greater than the smallmouth Bass, yes, Tevonn will hook his skill to Mark Currie's Advanced Bassin' Plus.
FWalum, maybe Tevonn could take you on a smallmouth Bassin' trip on Lac Saint-Louis, Lac de Deux Montagnes, Lac Saint-Francois, Riviere des Ottawa and parts of the Riviere Richelieu (Lac Champlain).
Bonne pêche!
Quote from: Valpofan02 on February 22, 2015, 04:39:12 PM
Gotta win this game in order to make the ncaa championship
That escalated quickly.
Quote from: historyman on February 22, 2015, 10:48:51 PM
I think Tavonn goin to catch him some Bass. He goin to take that Bass to da hole. He goin to get big dunk on. Tavonn is using his brain to outsmart that Paris. Tavonn goin to show Paris that french language is language of the D-I baller. Tavonn expects to do some damage on da Bass.
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I believe Tavonn is looking to shut up that smallmouth Bass. Honing his tournament skills to a higher level, a level greater than the smallmouth Bass, yes, Tavonn will hook his skill to Mark Currie's Advanced Bassin' Plus.
FWalum, maybe Tavonn could take you on a smallmouth Bassin' trip on Lac Saint-Louis, Lac de Deux Montagnes, Lac Saint-Francois, Riviere des Ottawa and parts of the Riviere Richelieu (Lac Champlain).
Bonne pêche!
It is all about that bass. No trouble.
Unfortunately I was quite busy this weekend and was unable to watch any HL play but I was sure pleased with the outcome. I wouldn't have thought we'd have a chance to sew up the HL title in Detroit, I surely thought it'd be a must win in Cleveland. I'm hoping we come out on fire and seize the opportunity to host the HL tourney and absolutely trounce Detroit and with 10 minutes left we're up 20 to 25 and have a nice easy win.
I doubt that'll be the case though. Detroit has nothing to gain and we have everything to lose which can be quite dangerous. There is no doubt that Valpo is significantly better than Detroit but Detroit is very talented and are one of those teams when it all comes together they can be a top 3 team in the HL, lucky for us they're poorly coached.
So far we've stepped up to every challenge. Beating GB in the ARC on a nationally televised game. Going to Milwaukee less than 48 hours later and taking down the Panthers that are trying to play spoiler, like the did to Cleveland State.
I say we win by 10 or so. We're a better team and should be able to beat them on their home court. The one thing about Detroit that scares me is that they can shoot 3s and our defense forces a lot of them. Like I said we win by 10 or so.
79 to 69.
OK... Time to Nip It .........Nip It....... Nip It.... and I'm probably guilty myself
Correct Spelling of #2...
Tevonn Walker G 6-1 195 Fr.
I am convinced that valpo can win out ans through the tournament. What I would love to see happen is valpo make a statement. Especially on friday in Cleveland. We have really whooped anyone in the past couple weeks. I would love for us to come out and get a big lead, followed by a foot on the throat. We need to show how strong of a team we have by blowing the doors off of this road trip. However I will take any sort of win.
I think the Bryce will have these guys ready to play this week. We play a full 40 minutes, never letting Detroit get that run.
Valpo 74
UDM 63
If we can win both these road games, I believe we will Crack one of the top 25's
Quote from: truth219 on February 23, 2015, 12:21:15 PM
If we can win both these road games, I believe we will Crack one of the top 25's
Maybe with some help... a Murray State loss might help a bit. (Though, for seeding in the NCAA, we might prefer that they cracked top 50 RPI. Which they might if they win out.)
Quote from: truth219 on February 23, 2015, 11:39:30 AM
I am convinced that valpo can win out ans through the tournament. What I would love to see happen is valpo make a statement. Especially on friday in Cleveland. We have really whooped anyone in the past couple weeks. I would love for us to come out and get a big lead, followed by a foot on the throat. We need to show how strong of a team we have by blowing the doors off of this road trip. However I will take any sort of win.
If they do it will take a very clean game with virtually no turnovers.
From Detroit's Commissioner
Game #31: Valparaiso
Postby Commissioner » Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:31 pm
Valparaiso
When: Wednesday, February 25, 7:00 p.m.
Where: Calihan Hall
TV: WADL/ESPN3
Radio: 1270 AM
Wednesday is Senior Day, and Valparaiso is coming to Calihan Hall hoping to clinch the Horizon regular season championship and the conference tournament host privileges and double-bye that go with it.
As the Moose noted recently, it's hard to keep saying that this is a talented Titan team. At some point, it is what it is, and what it is is a 13-17 team that has never clicked consistently and has now lost 7 of its last 10 games. But the Titans can play good ball at times, as shown by wins over Cleveland State and at Toledo and Northeastern (that is, we've got 2 road wins over teams that are leading solid mid-major conferences, and another over CSU, which could win the Horizon), and we won our last game with relative ease at Youngstown State.
Valpo and Detroit were picked neck and neck to finish 3rd and 4th in most pre-season Horizon polls, including the official league poll, but while the Titans have faltered Valpo has had the season we only dreamed of. The Crusaders enter the game at 25-4, with 12 wins in their last 13 games, including 7 in a row.
Valpo's starting lineup will probably be the same as we saw at Valpo three weeks ago:
F: Alec Peters, 6-9 Soph. (19 ppg. 6.7 rpg, .467 3P%)
C: Vashil Fernandez, 6-10 Sr. (7 ppg, 6.1 rpg)
G: Victor Nickerson, 6-8 Jr. (6.3 ppg)
G: Darien Walker, 6-3 Jr. (10.7 ppg, 4.4 rpg)
G: Tevonn Walker, 6-1 Fr. (10.9 ppg)
Behind them is guard Keith Carter (9.3 ppg, 3.7 apg), a 6-1 junior, and forwards David Skara, a 6-8 freshman (5.5 ppg, 3.4 rpg), and Jubril Adekoya, a 6-7 soph (4.9 ppg, 4.3 rpg). Carter was starting earlier in the season but has come off the bench since returning from an injury 2 games ago. We'll have to see if he returns to the starting lineup, presumably in place of Nickerson. Deeper on the bench is Max Joseph, a 6-1 freshman guard (2 ppg), but his time has been cut back with Carter's return.
There's not much more to say—by this time, we know what Valpo's got, and we know what we've got. Watching Valpo is a lesson in what Detroit could be. The Valpo kids play hard all the time. There are no mental holidays and no lazy-assed little passes around the perimeter. They play as a team. They don't make faces at the opposition, and they don't lose their composure.
In the season's first game between the two, at the ARC, the Titans held Peters and the Valpo bigs in check, but the two Walker guards ran all over the Titans, combining for 40 points on 53.8 floor shooting. Howard, Bass, and Jenkins hit double figures for the Titans, but our guards shot a combined 5-23 from the floor. Jarod Williams had his worst game of the year, logging just 6 minutes. We'll need better play from the backcourt.
If the Titans would get their act together, this could be one of if not the premier rivalry in the league, between the Horizon's two private schools, and the two with the longest, deepest basketball tradition. These two school first faced each other in 1920. Most the schools in this league weren't even in existence then. Valpo played in the 1964 and 1971 Motor City Tournaments.
We can play a lot better than we did at Valpo, and we can win this game. But then again, we've heard that a lot this year, before a lot of defeats. Valpo will be fired up, looking for the league title. Let's get a good crowd out to honor our seniors, including Juwan Howard, one of our all-time greats, and let's send Valpo packing into a must win game at Cleveland State on Friday.
Valpo always seems to play well in Calihan Hall. We're a more talented and more complete team than Detroit. We should win this game by 10 or so. It is senior night and that can give Detroit a little extra boost, since it is Juwan Howard's final game and if he's on he can steal a game for them.
The only way Detroit beats us is if Juwan Howard has a great game, even then it'll be difficult for Detroit. Bryce will have the guys ready for this one.
One would think they'd have their cancer awareness night and senior night as separate games, to give cancer awareness the attention it deserves, and the seniors the recognition they deserve. Nope, not Detroit.
http://www.detroittitans.com/news/2015/2/19/MBB_0219152428.aspx (http://www.detroittitans.com/news/2015/2/19/MBB_0219152428.aspx)
Quote from: Donjon VU07 on February 24, 2015, 09:30:03 AM
One would think they'd have their cancer awareness night and senior night as separate games, to give cancer awareness the attention it deserves, and the seniors the recognition they deserve. Nope, not Detroit.
http://www.detroittitans.com/news/2015/2/19/MBB_0219152428.aspx (http://www.detroittitans.com/news/2015/2/19/MBB_0219152428.aspx)
Maybe that says something about this year's senior class... Maybe rumblings of a locker room cancer dragging them down?
Quote from: Donjon VU07 on February 24, 2015, 09:30:03 AM
One would think they'd have their cancer awareness night and senior night as separate games, to give cancer awareness the attention it deserves, and the seniors the recognition they deserve. Nope, not Detroit.
http://www.detroittitans.com/news/2015/2/19/MBB_0219152428.aspx (http://www.detroittitans.com/news/2015/2/19/MBB_0219152428.aspx)
They want more than 23 people to come to the game so they made it senior night, which perhaps some people will show up for, and cancer awareness night which perhaps some extra people will show up for. My guess is they're hoping to eclipse the 100 spectator mark tomorrow!
Early lines have us favored by 9 to 10...about 7 points more than I would have expected.
We had some good games when rowdy and company would go against jr. Things have not been has good for the Titans since then.
Nothing to be sorry about. I really want Valpo to win, but Detroit has moments where they are really good. I hope I am wrong.
I really like this quote from Alec about wanting to win this game:
Quote"I want it bad," he said. "I can't put it an articulate way, other than I want it really bad, and everybody on our team wants it really bad."
We win 78-67.
Need to close the deal and win the regular season to set everything else up. Detroit will play hard and put up a good fight. Valpo 75 Detroit 71.
I really like our team. However, I'm not completely on board yet. I know the only loses we have are a 1 point to GB and an OT loss in an over balanced free throw game in Oakland. We have yet to play CSU and Detroit on the road. We have already lost to 3 and 4 on the road (GB and Oakland). There's a good chance we lose both.....And then all the fun we had talking about seeds and national rankings are gone. We are good but haven't won a good road game yet. We have taken care of business against the bottom feeders and stood our ground at home as expected.
We have a good chance and the team do it. Win on the road in Detroit and CSU and I lose my doubts.
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 25, 2015, 09:45:31 AMWe are good but haven't won a good road game yet
I'll take the blow-out wins over JMU and EKY... both with long winning home court traditions...and the 5-0 Neutral-site wins. Staying in Hotels does not affect this team. #PositiveVibe #iwantthisbad
I like our chances but I know that anything can happen. Howard is annoying when he struts around the court but when he is on that team can be hard to beat.
I always fear Detroit but anything under 17 turnovers and I think we win. Should be very close!
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 25, 2015, 09:45:31 AM
I really like our team. However, I'm not completely on board yet. I know the only loses we have are a 1 point to GB and an OT loss in an over balanced free throw game in Oakland. We have yet to play CSU and Detroit on the road. We have already lost to 3 and 4 on the road (GB and Oakland). There's a good chance we lose both.....And then all the fun we had talking about seeds and national rankings are gone. We are good but haven't won a good road game yet. We have taken care of business against the bottom feeders and stood our ground at home as expected.
We have a good chance and the team do it. Win on the road in Detroit and CSU and I lose my doubts.
Sorry, but I think these guys have earned their road-warrior badges already. They've demonstrated the ability to win in hostile or unfamiliar environments and have played with the same composure and confidence as at home. Any doubts I have about them are related to the overall weaknesses (such as passing, ball handling, and free-throw shooting) that have affected their home games too. To the extent that the turnovers are attributable to youth or point-guard problems, I'm not going to complain too much.
Quote from: Valpower on February 25, 2015, 04:12:26 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 25, 2015, 09:45:31 AM
I really like our team. However, I'm not completely on board yet. I know the only loses we have are a 1 point to GB and an OT loss in an over balanced free throw game in Oakland. We have yet to play CSU and Detroit on the road. We have already lost to 3 and 4 on the road (GB and Oakland). There's a good chance we lose both.....And then all the fun we had talking about seeds and national rankings are gone. We are good but haven't won a good road game yet. We have taken care of business against the bottom feeders and stood our ground at home as expected.
We have a good chance and the team do it. Win on the road in Detroit and CSU and I lose my doubts.
Sorry, but I think these guys have earned their road-warrior badges already. They've demonstrated the ability to win in hostile or unfamiliar environments and have played with the same composure and confidence as at home. Any doubts I have about them are related to the overall weaknesses (such as passing, ball handling, and free-throw shooting) that have affected their home games too. To the extent that the turnovers are attributable to youth or point-guard problems, I'm not going to complain too much.
Milwaukee convinced me of their ability to win on the road.
Detroit is a solid team, but they were swept by Wright St. and lost games at home to Oral Roberts and UIC.
KenPom has us as winning 66% of the time and a 4 point favorite. Bovada has us at -5 (-105) which is really tempting me to move on this game. Seems there's been some money on Detroit since their line is -115.
(If HL betting is your thing I think the -10 Oakland is putting up over YSU at the O'Rena is easy money tonight)
Just checked the league stats for conference games only. Detroit is scoring 2.5 points more per game but we are giving up 12.4 fewer points. That's a 10 point spread. Advantage Valpo. We have been averaging 7 more boards then Detroit. Advantage Valpo. We actually have a better Free Throw percentage. That's hard to imagine. Everything else is fairly even. I think their guard play is weak which should play into our hand as well. It's pretty much the Howard/Bass show. Stop or slow them down and we win. If they stop Alec we know that we have multiple ways to score. Not sure about Detroit.
If we are going to need some star power. Whether it's Peters or the walkers, somebody needs to be a star. It's good to have all around talent, but every great team has star power.
Quote from: truth219 on February 25, 2015, 04:41:03 PM
If we are going to need some star power. Whether it's Peters or the walkers, somebody needs to be a star. It's good to have all around talent, but every great team has star power.
I think this team is as well balanced as any we have had. I just looked at the stats and we have had 6 different players be the elading scorer in games and 8 different players lead in rebounding. Don't know how that stacks up against others but I'm guessing VERY good. Hard to shut us down when so many can step it up.
Help!
Is anyone else having problems getting espn3 broadcast to come in?
Is it buffering for anyone else?
Quote from: wh on February 25, 2015, 06:05:37 PM
Help!
Is anyone else having problems getting espn3 broadcast to come in?
I'm getting it. It's just buffering a little.
I'm getting video commercials, at least.
WVUR 95.1 is actually broadcasting silence. The rest of the radio network seems to be up - Course at Aberdeen commercials. Here's Todd coming on.
It finally came in. Thanks!
Aaron Leavitt does what every uber-fan was wanting to, and corrects Todd on the "same starting lineup for 13 game" comment. Nice ;)
You _rarely_ get it wrong, Todd! Makes it poke out all the more when it happens, once every third season.
Mine is buffering horrible
Mine is working well, need the offense to start working a bit
I love our guys, but could we ball fake just once underneath the basket. We're so easy to block.
Skara is turning it over a lot
Valpo playing decent, but need to cut down on the turnovers. Need to adjust some to Detroit starting to handle the zone, but Vashil coming back in could do that. Vashil continues to be a presence on defense.
Didn't like the way Valpo finished the half. Missed two wide open threes and gave up a little run. Need to play hard in the second half...stretch out the lead and hold it.
Detroit is getting way too many easy baskets. We have to make it more difficult to score. More P.T. for Fernandez. Jubril can't stop anyone underneath and is slow to recover on double teams. He did a good job of hitting FT's, but I think Bryce is over rewarding him.
Just going through the motions. Really poor effort by Nickerson tonight especially.
Defense is horrible.
Could have been better, Could have been worse. Stay on que, we got this.
Come on Peters and Tevonn. Time to step up big time.
first ball fake all night and drew a foul
Jubril is absolutely brutal.
This is horrible. How are we only down by 2?
Why do we keep trying to shoot 3's? They are not falling in, but we keep attempting them over and over again when they aren't needed. This is so frustrating!
I think Cameron Witt played better center than what we're getting from Jubril. Just watching rebounds go by, letting them shoot bunny after bunny.
Terrible rebounding and not getting in the offense. When Valpo runs their offense and moves the ball, they score. Detroit is extending their defense, but moving the ball should yield wide open shots. Detroit is playing hard...lots of guys stepping up and playing hard for them.
I can't believe we are getting out rebounded.
They must have 40 points in the paint. And no contribution - YET - from Howard. Not good.
By the way, Alec and David are terrible at blocking out. Is it a white thing? ;)
If I were Cleveland State, I would drive the hoop against us on every possession Friday. Something good will happen every time.
So many stupid fouls. Complete lack of focus this game.
Good God get Nickerson out of the game and don't let him see PG duties the rest of the year.
Well, it's been ugly. But, there's 51 and 10. We should be good to go.
Here I was just getting set for a long, ugly game. OK, it's still going to be a long, ugly game. But, they'll escape with this one.
Peters and Tevonn going to need to create something here? Tough going with 4 on Jubril and Vashil. Detroit's been fierce in the paint.
If D Walker would use his left hand when driving to the left of the basket then maybe he would finish some of those drives. UGH!
Quote from: agibson on February 25, 2015, 07:47:36 PMWell, it's been ugly. But, there's 51 and 10. We should be good to go.
But, they're sure going to make us sweat.
Whatever happened to those beautiful, snaking, contorting baskets from Tevonn off the backboard?
We are going to lose this game because of rebounding, I can't believe it, how many offensive rebounds are they going to get!!!
OK...one good possession...one good defensive set.
Arrgghh!! Not a good possession.
Not good when I'm rooting for overtime with a minute to go...
Sure was a slow time-out from the Crusaders, does noone in the NCAA go for the two-for-one? Need a stop... Somehow.
That can't be what Bryce drew up. KC 1 on 3
Now we have to win at CSU.....
That was a bad last offensive set, better not come back and get us. D up. No tip ins!
Blargh! Not a good game. :'( Hopefully we can learn from this.
>:(
Alright, one more chance at CSU.
cripe...
Don't see a miracle coming here.
EVERYTHING just changed!
Blargh. :'(
This stinks because I have to give the edge to CSU in that game and we lose the tie-breaker.
No way we win at CSU kiss the season and hosting the tourny goodbye. Even if somehow we make it to the NCAA tourny (which we won't) we aren't going to get a good seed. We will get blown out by a powerhouse. Maybe next year
How freaking pathetic was that defense by D Walker?? Why the hell are you on his hands that close, when he is doing a fade-away 3? Just stay close and DON'T FOUL. Also, wtf didn't we go 2 for 1 when we had the ball with 52 seconds left?? Absolutely stupid decisions in the last minute, and now we gave life to the rest of the league, when it should have been wrapped up.
What a horrible horrible game. Horrible rebounding. Horrible managing of time outs. Horrible coaching.
This was like watching a Valpo team of years past. Hopefully we turn it around in Cleveland...
Quote from: Valpofan00 on February 25, 2015, 08:06:50 PM
No way we win at CSU kiss the season and hosting the tourny goodbye. Even if somehow we make it to the NCAA tourny (which we won't) we aren't going to get a good seed. We will get blown out by a powerhouse. Maybe next year
RPI only fell to 69 on the loss. But, that may be sayanora to any hope of a 12 seed.
VU played reasonably well but were slightly out executed. Carter showed some of physical and mental rust that 5 weeks of inaction can give you.
I had no problem throughout--except for the final score. Thought we played decent but the ball just bounce Detroits way. Sucks but on to Cleveland.
Seriously, can someone answer why we NEVER go two-for-one, when there is 50-60 seconds left in a game? There is absolutely no reason to use the entire shot clock in such a circumstance. Drive to the basket within 10 seconds, and even if you miss, you still have the last possession. I just don't get it...
Quote from: mj on February 25, 2015, 08:07:57 PM
What a horrible horrible game. Horrible rebounding. Horrible managing of time outs. Horrible coaching.
This was like watching a Valpo team of years past. Hopefully we turn it around in Cleveland...
This.
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 22, 2015, 04:56:28 PM
Detroit 67-62, I think we are getting the wagon ahead of the horse.
Looks like this was the right call. Good job. I was dead wrong. Got to give Detroit their due and credit for tonight. Looks like we've got a nice little rivalry budding, which is a good thing. Bad result tonight though for sure. ON TO CLEVELAND. I still have the faith.
Not going for a 2 for 1 even after calling the timeout to set up a play has to be one of the poorest decisions I've seen from this team.
But then I saw Walker fouling on a jump back three, which immediately topped that.
That was disappointing. Guess I will have to find someplace to go watch tv Friday night. On the plus side, I can finally wash these "lucky" socks.
There was no way that Howard was making that shot, even if you are 1 more foot off him. I just don't get why you try to block that shot? What an extremely dumb move, probably one of the dumbest I have seen from a Valpo player since I began following the program.
Quote from: HC on February 25, 2015, 08:18:05 PMOn the plus side, I can finally wash these "lucky" socks.
Better put in a little extra bleach!
A well deserved loss. Now we'll see what kind of character the team has when they have a must win game against a tough team at their place.
I saw the last 35 seconds and based on the result and looking back over everyone's comments, I won't be going back to watch the other 19:25. Remember that a bad/not focused game doesn't limit the ceiling of this team (although it reminds us of the basement). Hopefully the boys will get a fire lit under themselves rather than being demoralized. The rankings and such are all shot to hell (hoping that tones down the rpi debates but it will probably exacerbate it) but the the title is still within our own control. Gotta see 26-5 by the weekend and that's still possible.
D Walker owes his team a win at CSU, after that ending. He had a good game until that last 12 seconds, and basically pissed in his teammates' Cheerios with that last boneheaded play. That is going to bother me until the CSU game, as it just doesn't make any sense. If he makes that shot playing normal defense and a fade-away 3, I feel fine tonight, as you just have to give it to them. But to let them decide it on the FT line?
The more I watch the replay the more I believe that Darien didn't foul him. Plus the fact that the ref who makes the call watches the ball coming up short before blowing his whistle isn't making me feel any better. There is absolutely no body contact. And based on how Jr. shoots the ball, it looks like the type of release that says "oh he's going to block this" where you typically short arm it. Which is what happened. Just my speculation. If I could get a look where I get to see the spin on the ball that would tell me a lot more.
Quote from: valpo4life on February 25, 2015, 08:50:30 PM
The more I watch the replay the more I believe that Darien didn't foul him. Plus the fact that the ref who makes the call watches the ball coming up short before blowing his whistle isn't making me feel any better. There is absolutely no body contact. And based on how Jr. shoots the ball, it looks like the type of release that says "oh he's going to block this" where you typically short arm it. Which is what happened. Just my speculation. If I could get a look where I get to see the spin on the ball that would tell me a lot more.
Paul oren tweeted Darien said after the game he tipped it.
If there's anything there. It's that Darien does hit a piece of it. And Jr. follows through into this arm. That could be a foul in some people's book. But in mine, that's nothing.
It was one of those - well he shouldn't have been in that situation, but still questionable - calls. Maybe the reff is the same idiot that gave SFA the free throw vs VCU in the opening round last year. Usually you never see that called.
Quote from: govalpogo on February 25, 2015, 08:29:08 PMI saw the last 35 seconds and based on the result and looking back over everyone's comments, I won't be going back to watch the other 19:25.
This a good game to watch.Yes we made some offensive and defensive mistakes and maybe the coaches can learn something as well. Still we did a lot extremely well.
Quote from: govalpogo on February 25, 2015, 08:29:08 PMThe rankings and such are all shot to hell (hoping that tones down the rpi debates but it will probably exacerbate it) but the the title is still within our own control. Gotta see 26-5 by the weekend and that's still possible.
I thought all along that we should or would leave for Detroit armed with a wonderful CSU game plan. Hope that proves to be true. :thumbsup:
Pretty much. He played great defense not allowing him inside the 3 point line. Forced him into what was a tough shot. Just needed to go straight up. If he hits a fadeaway 3 at the buzzer I can live with that. Sigh. Either way, I'm really looking forward to Friday night. It's going to be a highly motivated CSU team going against a pissed off us. Going to be another fight to the end. But I think we'll be much better in the paint as CSU does not have nearly the length that Detroit does. Which is why they are tough, when they show up. Which they did tonight.
Quote from: valpotx on February 25, 2015, 08:20:15 PM
There was no way that Howard was making that shot, even if you are 1 more foot off him. I just don't get why you try to block that shot? What an extremely dumb move, probably one of the dumbest I have seen from a Valpo player since I began following the program.
You must have forgotten about TW fouling Lewis from behind the 3-pt line of the CSU game. Fortunately, he missed 1 or that game would have gone to OT. Of how about KC's attempted steal of an inbounds pass to Howard at the end of the Detroit game last year. He whiffed and Howard drains a wide open 3 to win the game. How many times is this stuff going to happen before our guys decide to do what everyone knows starting in middle school basketball - stand (not jump) with your arms extended and hope for the best. 3 times out of 4 the guy will miss a defended do or die 3 pointer. It amazes me that a team as disciplined as we are can have mental like these where you forget everything you ever learned.
From someone who wasn't able to watch anything except the PBP scroll by on the game cast (what an excruciating way to watch the last 3-4 minutes of a CBB game, which last 15 minutes in real time...it's like water torture):
--It's always a bummer when your board's resident Eeyore (Paul) was more right than everyone else. We were overlooking UDM, and VU was due for a clunker of a game--this is still better than it happening at home against Loyola, right?
--Obviously at-large gone now. Feel a little sorry for indulging in it as much as I did.
--No one will now object to KC replacing EVN in the starting lineup, right?
--While the team may not be as good as we thought before the game, neither is everything suddenly as dark as some want to make it seem. I think how we respond will say a lot about the team--how resilient and how mentally tough they are, which in turn will say a lot about our postseason aspirations. (And not just because it will be a lot harder to win a tourney on the road.)
--Kind of proud of everyone on the board that our first reaction wasn't "bleep the refs" but "how could you put yourself in a position to allow that call?" It took several posts before the call was even questioned.
This next game, however it turns out, could be a defining moment for this team. Win it and I think they gain the confidence that propels them to win the conference tourney. Lose it and still win the tournament and regardless of what we do in the dance it bodes well for next year. Lose and don't win the conference tournament and it provides even more motivation for next year. Pretty much all good regardless. After all the team has already surpassed expectations for this year.
So was that a trap game? ???
I was not able to watch the game. If someone had told me before the game that we'd shoot 40% from 3pt land, 83% from the stripe and only 10 turnovers, I'd say we would win. Two away games on senior night is proving to be very tough in the HL.
We need a much better effort against CSU, which I think this team is very capable of doing. The question is: will they?
If we lose, what's the lowest seed we drop in the HL tournament?
Quote from: covufan on February 26, 2015, 07:13:05 AM
I was not able to watch the game. If someone had told me before the game that we'd shoot 40% from 3pt land, 83% from the stripe and only 10 turnovers, I'd say we would win. Two away games on senior night is proving to be very tough in the HL.
It sure felt like more than 10 turnovers (it was 11, but it felt closer to 20). I'm not sure how EVic wasn't credited with at least one TO. I'm ready to move on from the 6'8" PG experiment. It was good when KC was out, but now he's back. Let's start KC, back him up with Max with EVic backing up the Walkers. I kind of want to see a line up of Max-Skara-EVic-Jubril-(Pick: Alec/Darien/Tevonn) as our second unit.
We had done so well defending New Jr. that I was near tears when that foul was called. He routinely hits those long distance threes (and then struts around like a chicken) against us I understand defending him close out there. It sure looked like Darien got a piece of the ball but the way New Jr. reacted he's going to get a call 9 times out of 10.
Also can we get Bryce into a clock management class? You call TO with 45 seconds left then you proceed to not play for the 2 for 1? Also why did you call time out after we tied the game? According to the PbP it was to get Keith in for Max, but I don't remember Max in at that point. Even if he was, you should have had Keith in after the final media time out.
I'm not terribly upset with the loss. It was an upset and just about every team has them. The way the game ended stunk, poor clock management and that damn foul with 1.6 seconds left on a contested 3. Win tomorrow night and this game doesn't matter.
I do not want to see Detroit again. They have the ability to knock anyone off. From the bottom half of seeds Detroit could easily make it to the finals.
14, Detroit has some talent and plays well in spurts. I noticed this in their win over CSU a couple of weeks ago. You do not want to play these guys in the conference tournament. When you are a team out of contention you tend to play loose with little pressure not to choke. Valpo was obviously in a different situation last night.
That being said, I give Detroit credit but Valpo played a very sluggish game as described by Todd during the radio broadcast. What a bummer.
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 26, 2015, 09:55:25 AM
14, Detroit has some talent and plays well in spurts. I noticed this in their win over CSU a couple of weeks ago. You do not want to play these guys in the conference tournament. When you are a team out of contention you tend to play loose with little pressure not to choke. Valpo was obviously in a different situation last night.
That being said, I give Detroit credit but Valpo played a very sluggish game as described by Todd during the radio broadcast. What a bummer.
I think it was a little bit of both. We seemed to play slow, uninspired on defense. We got eaten up on the boards. Offensively we were okay, but just too many wide open shots that we normally bury. We seemed to miss a fair share of bunnies.
Detroit played well. They made their shots, got inside, and went to the line.
The concern for CSU is that we looked gassed yesterday and are playing them on 2 days rest. At one point Jubril had a layup happen right in his face and then keeled over.
Quote from: covufan on February 26, 2015, 07:04:53 AM
Quote from: valpo84 on February 26, 2015, 06:37:03 AM
So was that a trap game? ???
no, just a crap game.
Or a tarp game - drape a tarp on this game and forget about it!
Although I do believe that Carter should return as the starting point guard, I was not very happy with his shot selection last night. There was a key stretch in the 2nd half where he, as well as a few others, fired up some ill-advised 3 pointers.
As others have said, it was the offensive rebounding that really killed us.
I think what makes me most angry about this is that Detroit should have a better record. This loss makes us look bad. The casual observer around the country assumes that Detroit sucks, because that is what their record indicates. They don't suck, they just only pick 4-5 games a year to play up to their potential.
Good news... We have not lost 2 games in a row all year. So... There is still hope.
I looked at ESPN BPI and Detroit played their best game in HL play since games 2 and 3, which were both wins. As others pointed out before the game, Detroit has talent and potential to beat just about anyone at home. We have played well after our other losses, but so has CSU.
We are not going to win many games where we are 8-26 from within the 3-pt line. Poor shooting and shot selection. We only had 18 fouls, which compared to previous years is pretty good. Timing of those fouls is another matter. We ended up with one more rebound, but one less offensive rebound, and ended up with more 2nd chance points. Just 2 or 3 more defensive rebounds could have made the difference. We still are having troubles with a lead at the end of the game. We need to find that instinct to put the game away when we have a four point lead and 5 minutes remaining.
I spent about 15 years living in Bloomington, IN when Knight was the coach. One of the things I respected about Knight's coaching style was his lack of use of timeouts towards the end of the game (or half). His philosophy was that he wanted to coach his players during practice so that they would know what to do, especially against a team that is looking to their coach for what to do next when a game is on the line. To him, it was an advantage to not take the timeout - thereby giving his opponent the opportunity to sub players and set up a specific defense/offense. In a tie game with just under a minute, going for the 2-for-1 gives us two possessions to their one possession. We really needed this advantage, but were not able to take advantage of the situation. I'm sure everyone learned from this experience.
Quote from: Kyle321n on February 26, 2015, 08:53:56 AM'm ready to move on from the 6'8" PG experiment. It was good when KC was out, but now he's back. Let's start KC, back him up with Max with EVic backing up the Walkers.
Is KC back? It looked to me that Max was substituted for Keith for a reason. I couldn't see the bench but I am sure he was pulled for a lecture on some poor decision making.
One of things that EVN brings that gets unnoticed is his defense. When he is at the top of the zone or covering a smaller guard man on man passing lanes shrink, shots become difficult and we seem to allow fewer easy baskets. With KC in the game some of those benefits disappear. When KC is 100% (probably next year) I think he will log more minutes at the 2 than the 1 (assuming a full Lexus recovery). I do not expect Nickerson to be completely removed from all point guard duties. He just does not fit perfectly anywhere on the floor. He is not a 4. He has many limitation at the 3. He is definitely not a 2 but as a 1 he offers options that no one else can. Like I said before he is "high risk- high reward" and last night we chose to play it a little safer and we lost.
Quote from: justducky on February 26, 2015, 12:22:13 PM
Quote from: Kyle321n on February 26, 2015, 08:53:56 AM'm ready to move on from the 6'8" PG experiment. It was good when KC was out, but now he's back. Let's start KC, back him up with Max with EVic backing up the Walkers.
Is KC back? It looked to me that Max was substituted for Keith for a reason. I couldn't see the bench but I am sure he was pulled for a lecture on some poor decision making.
One of things that EVN brings that gets unnoticed is his defense. When he is at the top of the zone or covering a smaller guard man on man passing lanes shrink, shots become difficult and we seem to allow fewer easy baskets. With KC in the game some of those benefits disappear. When KC is 100% (probably next year) I think he will log more minutes at the 2 than the 1 (assuming a full Lexus recovery). I do not expect Nickerson to be completely removed from all point guard duties. He just does not fit perfectly anywhere on the floor. He is not a 4. He has many limitation at the 3. He is definitely not a 2 but as a 1 he offers options that no one else can. Like I said before he is "high risk- high reward" and last night we chose to play it a little safer and we lost.
You're right, Nickerson does not fit perfectly anywhere on the floor. He fits perfectly on the bench. I thought EVN played terrible defense last night and Carter was an improvement on both defense and offense. Nickerson was not disrupting passing lanes as they were able to feed it inside all game. He's usually a better defender, but last night was his worst game.
Pretty sure KC got put on the pine for Max right after he took a pretty deep three with 24 seconds or so left on the shot clock.
Quote from: valpo84 on February 26, 2015, 06:37:03 AM
So was that a trap game? ???
No. A trap game is one you overlook because there seems to be a more important game in the future. The importance of this Detroit game was extremely evident in that if Valpo had won they would have secured first place and hosted the HL tournament. It also would have made the Cleve St game less meaningful.
When Alec was quoted as saying "we want this game really bad" it seemed that maybe Valpo was pushing too hard and screwed up just enough to lose to Detroit in the last minute. Some of the same pressure will be on CSU that was on Valpo at Detroit, that was not on the Titans because they had already locked up 5th place. It's that pressure that makes you overplay the opponent's best three point shooter on the most important play of the game.
Quote from: a3uge on February 26, 2015, 12:49:33 PMYou're right, Nickerson does not fit perfectly anywhere on the floor. He fits perfectly on the bench. I thought EVN played terrible defense last night and Carter was an improvement on both defense and offense. Nickerson was not disrupting passing lanes as they were able to feed it inside all game. He's usually a better defender, but last night was his worst game.
If I get the chance I will take another look at the game with exclusive attention to both of their performances. Look at it this way EVN helps this team best when he is playing point or he hurts the team worst when he is playing point but when he is sitting on the bench I just start to nod off. :snore: Sometimes you have to carefully sort through the debris and rubble before you can get an accurate count on the casualties.
This was the first game in a while that we got out rebounded and out scored in the paint. Turn those things around and this game in not even close.
The reason why Detroit won was that they were able to get second and third chances which turn into buckets. If we have a normal rebounding game we win. I would imagine this game is a lesson that we need to play our best if not anyone can beat us.
I don't mean to be redundant but if we win tonight, this game is nothing more than a blip on the radar.
Quote from: classof2014 on February 27, 2015, 08:16:29 AM
The reason why Detroit won was that they were able to get second and third chances which turn into buckets. If we have a normal rebounding game we win. I would imagine this game is a lesson that we need to play our best if not anyone can beat us.
I don't mean to be redundant but if we win tonight, this game is nothing more than a blip on the radar.
Hopefully its just a blip. If we win out, we'll be looking back on this season as one of the best in the history of the program.... We'd have a chance to finish the season with a top 50 RPI for the first time ever, set a school record for wins, and play a beatable team in the tournament (unless God hates us and gives us Louisville in Louisville).
But I'm not really expecting this. Losing in Detroit probably becomes the "what could have been" in a start to a 2011-like collapse. With the way the team has been playing the past few games, it feels that way. We were down to UWM and Wright State at half and just lost to Detroit. We didnt really grab momentum from that UWGB win and are still trying to find our mojo. But you're right, tonight can rewrite that game as a small blip and give us tremendous momentum and a chance to play 2 home games against teams we've already beat.
Louisville can't be seated in Louisville.
Quote from: valpo84 on February 27, 2015, 09:36:33 AM
Louisville can't be seated in Louisville.
You're right. I just looked up the rules and you can't play games at a place you've played 3+ times.
Quote from: a3uge on February 27, 2015, 09:34:39 AMWe'd have a chance to finish the season with a top 50 RPI for the first time ever, set a school record for wins, and play a beatable team in the tournament
Yeah, a little to my surprise, looks like we could still be right around 50 if we win out.
Maybe there are scenarios where we lose and play through the #3 seed and do a little better than that.
Quote from: agibson on February 27, 2015, 10:06:20 AM
Quote from: a3uge on February 27, 2015, 09:34:39 AMWe'd have a chance to finish the season with a top 50 RPI for the first time ever, set a school record for wins, and play a beatable team in the tournament
Yeah, a little to my surprise, looks like we could still be right around 50 if we win out.
Maybe there are scenarios where we lose and play through the #3 seed and do a little better than that.
Yeah it calculates to 52 on RPI Wizard, but that doesn't factor in the neutral court win(s) the team playing in the championship game would have. For example, the wizard assumes a 65 RPI UWGB for the HL championship game, not a 55 RPI if they beat Oakland and the CSU at a neutral site. Also, if we make the tourney, we'll play a team that will improve our RPI even with a loss. When it comes down to it, it doesn't really matter that much, but finishing with the best RPI in the history of the program and being below 50 for the first time would be amazing.
Quote from: a3uge on February 27, 2015, 09:34:39 AM
Yeah it calculates to 52 on RPI Wizard, but that doesn't factor in the neutral court win(s) the team playing in the championship game would have. For example, the wizard assumes a 65 RPI UWGB for the HL championship game, not a 55 RPI if they beat Oakland and the CSU at a neutral site. Also, if we make the tourney, we'll play a team that will improve our RPI even with a loss. When it comes down to it, it doesn't really matter that much, but finishing with the best RPI in the history of the program and being below 50 for the first time would be amazing.
Interesting - you might be right about the RPI Wizard methodology. I suppose when we add games we don't specify that they're post-season, requiring extra wins for the opponent.
But probably RPI Forecast -does- take that into account?
Do you know what/when our record season-ending RPI was?
Quote from: agibson on February 27, 2015, 12:06:15 PM
Quote from: a3uge on February 27, 2015, 09:34:39 AM
Yeah it calculates to 52 on RPI Wizard, but that doesn't factor in the neutral court win(s) the team playing in the championship game would have. For example, the wizard assumes a 65 RPI UWGB for the HL championship game, not a 55 RPI if they beat Oakland and the CSU at a neutral site. Also, if we make the tourney, we'll play a team that will improve our RPI even with a loss. When it comes down to it, it doesn't really matter that much, but finishing with the best RPI in the history of the program and being below 50 for the first time would be amazing.
Interesting - you might be right about the ROI Wizard methodology. I suppose when we add games we don't specify that they're post-season, requiring extra wins for the opponent.
But probably RPI Forecast -does- take that into account?
Do you know what/when our record season-ending RPI was?
They have expected RPI's with conference tourneys, but that's a separate option and it's not very reliable. The Wizard doesn't factor that in.
If you're looking for historical RPIs, well, I have them:
Year W L RPI Postseason Overall Attendance
1991-1992 5 22 286 2,031
1992-1993 12 16 215 2,640
1993-1994 19 8 118 3,251
1994-1995 18 8 115 3,446
1995-1996 19 10 129 NCAA (14) 3,886
1996-1997 22 6 65 NCAA (12) 3,625
1997-1998 18 8 83 NCAA (13)* 3,861
1998-1999 17 8 134 NCAA (15) 4,327
1999-2000 16 12 193 NCAA (16) 4,039
2000-2001 24 8 117 4,327
2001-2002 24 7 91 NCAA (13) 4,530
2002-2003 20 10 107 NIT 4,376
2003-2004 17 12 154 NCAA (15) 3,945
2004-2005 15 16 181 4,174
2005-2006 16 12 206 3,353
2006-2007 16 15 162 3,520
2007-2008 22 14 104 CBI 3,666
2008-2009 9 22 259 2,973
2009-2010 15 17 178 2,739
2010-2011 23 12 84 CIT 3,362
2011-2012 22 12 103 NIT 3,383
2012-2013 26 8 58 NCAA (14) 3,173
2013-2014 18 16 184 CIT 2,833
So, 58 looks like the high water mark?
We had a season with _average_ home attendance north of 4,500? Crazy!
Are these RPI's the 'just before NCAA tournament' RPI's? If so, what was the 1998 team's RPI after going to the sweet sixteen and then losing to Rhode Island?
Quote from: covufan on February 27, 2015, 12:31:36 PM
Are these RPI's the 'just before NCAA tournament' RPI's? If so, what was the 1998 team's RPI after going to the sweet sixteen and then losing to Rhode Island?
I really don't have a good source here. Lexis Nexis?
Looks like CBN was publishing RPI back then, but didn't have a web presence (at least not with their current domain name).
The NCAA has a web archive, but it doesn't seem to go back very far...
Anybody?
Quote from: covufan on February 27, 2015, 12:31:36 PM
Are these RPI's the 'just before NCAA tournament' RPI's? If so, what was the 1998 team's RPI after going to the sweet sixteen and then losing to Rhode Island?
Gah, now I remember - it cuts off at 1999. Here's the last final season report: https://rpiarchive.ncaa.org/Stats%20Library/1999%20Final%20RPI.pdf
It looks like before then is probably pre-tourney RPIs.
Jerry Palm's website
http://www.collegerpi.com (http://www.collegerpi.com)
seems to have a pretty deep archive.
But, for 1998 it looks like he only has pre-NCAA tournament RPI's.
Quote from: a3uge on February 27, 2015, 12:16:21 PM
Quote from: agibson on February 27, 2015, 12:06:15 PM
Quote from: a3uge on February 27, 2015, 09:34:39 AM
Yeah it calculates to 52 on RPI Wizard, but that doesn't factor in the neutral court win(s) the team playing in the championship game would have. For example, the wizard assumes a 65 RPI UWGB for the HL championship game, not a 55 RPI if they beat Oakland and the CSU at a neutral site. Also, if we make the tourney, we'll play a team that will improve our RPI even with a loss. When it comes down to it, it doesn't really matter that much, but finishing with the best RPI in the history of the program and being below 50 for the first time would be amazing.
Interesting - you might be right about the ROI Wizard methodology. I suppose when we add games we don't specify that they're post-season, requiring extra wins for the opponent.
But probably RPI Forecast -does- take that into account?
Do you know what/when our record season-ending RPI was?
They have expected RPI's with conference tourneys, but that's a separate option and it's not very reliable. The Wizard doesn't factor that in.
If you're looking for historical RPIs, well, I have them:
Year W L RPI Postseason Overall Attendance
1991-1992 5 22 286 2,031
1992-1993 12 16 215 2,640
1993-1994 19 8 118 3,251
1994-1995 18 8 115 3,446
1995-1996 19 10 129 NCAA (14) 3,886
1996-1997 22 6 65 NCAA (12) 3,625
1997-1998 18 8 83 NCAA (13)* 3,861
1998-1999 17 8 134 NCAA (15) 4,327
1999-2000 16 12 193 NCAA (16) 4,039
2000-2001 24 8 117 4,327
2001-2002 24 7 91 NCAA (13) 4,530
2002-2003 20 10 107 NIT 4,376
2003-2004 17 12 154 NCAA (15) 3,945
2004-2005 15 16 181 4,174
2005-2006 16 12 206 3,353
2006-2007 16 15 162 3,520
2007-2008 22 14 104 CBI 3,666
2008-2009 9 22 259 2,973
2009-2010 15 17 178 2,739
2010-2011 23 12 84 CIT 3,362
2011-2012 22 12 103 NIT 3,383
2012-2013 26 8 58 NCAA (14) 3,173
2013-2014 18 16 184 CIT 2,833
Home attendance this year is around 2900. If we were to host, that should rise above 3000. The 3 non D-1 games only averaged a little more than 1000, making the D-1 appx 3400. Another good reason to shed non D1 opponents.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: wh on February 27, 2015, 01:12:17 PMAnother good reason to get rid of non D1 opponents.
:thumbsup:
I've been tracking our attendance in a spreadsheet for the past 3,4 years and have detailed records since 2006. I'll post this years results if we win tonight, if not, I'll probably be too bummed out to think about Valpo basketball.