Valpo is undefeated in games-played-after-loss. Let's keep the string going. Bears are undefeated at home, coming off a 79-71 win over #269 SEMO on the road Wednesday night.
12/03/16 @ #200 Air Force L83-70
11/27/16 vs #140 No Dakota St W64-50
11/23/16 @ #117 DePaul L68-66
11/13/16 vs #163 Jacksonville State W91-65
11/11/16 vs #350 (0-7) Alabama A&M 96-62
Here's their roster:
http://www.missouristatebears.com/roster.aspx?path=mbball
Here's their stat sheet through the SEMO game:
http://missouristate_ftp.sidearmsports.com/custompages/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2016-2017/MBBOverall.pdf?path=mbball
"Back on Track"
This is going to be a tough game. Unless we come out of our shooting slump I think this game will be very close. We have to play great defense.
Valpo 73
Mizz St 67
This is a team we should beat handily. My prediction: Valpo will rally from the loss to Kentucky and win by 15.
No time to feel sorry for ourselves, study and get going. Hit the floor running!!! ;) a close VU win 75-71
I think Valpo rebounds from last night with no side affects.....79-62 winner.
Our last chance for a non-conference road win this year... we only have 3 on the schedule, Oregon, Kentucky ... and Da'Bears.
These next 2 games are important for both team development and post season seeding . Unfortunately because they have home court advantage Sagarin has us at a slight underdog to the Bears and I think this may be realistic.
Let me lump Missouri St and Indiana St into the same category with some comparative numbers. MS-- Pomeroy 122 Sagarin 111 WN Predicted RPI 131
IS-- " 125 " 103 " 128
I have not viewed either team in action so my respect for these opponents is all based on the opinions of others but a glance at these numbers suggests that we could play reasonably well and still come away with 2 losses. So does Matt treat these as must wins to the possible detriment of our freshmen development? What is the proper coaching approach for the MVC midsection?
This could be one of the last games all season (at Oakland?) where we'll be underdogs.
One of our last chances to make a (moderate) one-game statement.
Quote from: agibson on December 09, 2016, 11:03:58 AM
This could be one of the last games all season (at Oakland?) where we'll be underdogs.
One of our last chances to make a (moderate) one-game statement.
On the road and all but underdogs in Vegas? Probably not. I view these as the kind of game we had last year at Ball State, although I think both of these teams are better, particularly Indiana State. We need to win both to kep us in the national thought process.
the Warren Nolan "Predictor" shows us as 19-point underdogs 80-61, giving us a 7% chance of winning. Giving a lot of weight to their 4-0 home record and our 0-2 Road record.
the RealTimeRPI predictor shows us losing by 2: 76-78 L - Scouting
That real-time predictor also has us losing:
@ Milwaukee 79-75
@ Green Bay 81-73
@ Oakland 82-72
@ Wright State 81-73
(Ending season 22-7 and 13-4 in the HL)
The other HL Road Games
We are favored @ CSU 79-76 and YSU 79-76; UDM 79-77 and NoKy 79-77
Valpo 73
Missouri State 65
Ducky's research on rankings would say these are tight games ahead.
Question is outside shooting as has been said. Do we space the floor or do they collapse on the hoop and take away the drive threat?
I think we win this one and possibly lose to ISU or eek out a tight victory. We may be regressing a bit, which would not be unusual, as a result of fatigue, etc. I suspect the league season will be much tougher than anticipated.
URI probably won't see the top-25 again this year, and they have not looked good their past two games post-Valpo, so although it was great to win at home against them, the magnitude of that victory has been overstated. We are currently the fifth best collegiate basketball team in Indiana, and the top four are substantially better than us.
It will be a fun remainder of he season, but our offensive inconsistency and obvious interior defense shortcomings will make the road rocky.
Well said, I have cautious optimism though that Lexus/JOSEPH/Bradford won't be so out matched against our remaining competition.
I've said this before but didn't see a reply...who thought we had a highly efficient shooting team from outside (preseason)? We are slightly worse from outside than expected, but Alec was the only proven perimeter player coming into this season. Adekoya is a low production 3-baller from last season....his % appears to be the only bright spot from the perimeter. Thoughts?
Mo St has a loss to DePaul on their record? Valpo by 8.
Quote from: agibson on December 09, 2016, 11:03:58 AM
This could be one of the last games all season (at Oakland?) where we'll be underdogs.
One of our last chances to make a (moderate) one-game statement.
I figured we'd be slight underdogs in the gambling parlors. Apparently not. We may have opened slight underdogs or as a push some places but the line seems to have slid to favor us by about two points.
Quote from: agibson on December 10, 2016, 02:02:26 PMI figured we'd be slight underdogs in the gambling parlors. Apparently not. We may have opened slight underdogs or as a push some places but the line seems to have slid to favor us by about two points.
Vegas Insider consensus says Valpo now GIVING 3... and 98% of the money is on Valpo. O/u is 137.5... something like 70-67.
I wonder if MSU can duplicate this atmosphere:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tCktnwwffc
Quote from: wh on December 10, 2016, 05:36:32 PMI wonder if MSU can duplicate this atmosphere:
Yes but after that game the team went straight downhill! :'( A hangover curse that left both Missouri St and Valpo nowhere near the bubble both were seeking.
Adekoya and JOSEPH not playing tonight "due to University matter"????
Am I correct in thinking this is on ESPN3? The MVC has a contract with them as well?
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on December 10, 2016, 06:45:46 PM
Adekoya and JOSEPH not playing tonight "due to University matter"????
Anybody know anything about the situation?
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Quote from: FWalum on December 10, 2016, 07:09:06 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on December 10, 2016, 06:45:46 PM
Adekoya and JOSEPH not playing tonight "due to University matter"????
Anybody know anything about the situation?
Valpo scratches players so rarely, I don't remember for sure what language they use. This is presumably distinct from a team rules violation?
I don't -think- they're on the bench, but haven't gotten a good look. Actually, take that back, maybe that is both of them. Weird.
I thought maybe they could have been sent back to campus for the last days of classes and to focus on classes. But they're in Missouri...
Finals start Monday. It seems too soon to be academically ineligible.
The statement does not answer any questions....
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2 freshman and a walk on on the court and doing well
Walk on?
I take it back. Bradford premiere defense is the worse
Smits is absolutely killing us right now.
Refs have not been calling very good the last couple minutes
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Let's hope Tevonn's 3 will give the momentum back!
Given our shallow bench I think being within 5 at half is pretty solid. Alec had to sit out a bunch and Shane got the T. Look for a solid second half. This team is pretty tough.
Last time Valpo lost 2 consecutive regular-seasons ?
<<Spoiler Alert>>
2013-14
1/4 Oakland 75-70
1/10 Wright State 62-45
and 3 in a row
same season
Nov 13 @ Illinois 64-52
Nov 17 @ Ohio 76-72
Nov 20 @Evansville 100-92
Without Jubril and Max, pulling out a win here would be pretty darn impressive. Awful that "something" had to come up to knock us back so far from full strength. I can only trust it's the right measure for whatever is going on.
Yeah interesting wording in the press release. Judging by the fact that hey are here I'm assuming the team didn't come home between games. If those two knowingly violated a team rule they deserve to be susupended. But again, "University Matter" seems ominous. Hope it's only a one game thing. This is a whole different game with Max and JA on the floor.
Smits and Bradford really could benefit from a redshirt year.
We are evenly matched tonight. We are missing Jubril, but Church is far better than Jubril and is limited tonight because of injury. Don't see us being any better than MSU.
Disagree Mr Atkins. These two teams, full strength, neutral court, top level officials, we win be 6-8. But games aren't played on paper.
Quote from: atkins on December 10, 2016, 08:20:43 PM
Smits and Bradford really could benefit from a redshirt year.
We are evenly matched tonight. We are missing Jubril, but Church is far better than Jubril and is limited tonight because of injury. Don't see us being any better than MSU.
Dude, the game isn't even over yet.
The most impressive aspect of tonight's game has been MSU's announcers. They have been fair and respectful. Hat's off to them.
Smits just needs time to get acclimated to his height. Remember, he wasn't over 7' tall in high school, and he never really had to play much defense, as games were so in hand that he didn't play a lot of second halves of high school games. He's definitely not at his peak yet.
Also, is it just me, or are these officials TERRIBLE? They've spent a lot of time checking monitors, and being the 6th, 7th, and 8th men for Missouri St. Thankfully, the Crusaders have been able to hold their own, and keep in this game.
Shane fouled out when a player rolls around on the floor... weak call...
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Quote from: Smj on December 10, 2016, 08:42:39 PM
Shane fouled out when a player rolls around on the floor... weak call...
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What game are these zebras watching, or are they using a different rule book?
Quote from: Smj on December 10, 2016, 08:42:39 PM
Shane fouled out when a player rolls around on the floor... weak call...
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He HAS to be smarter there. Shane has been playing out of control all night.
Alex was fouled. I'm at the game and Missouri st fans said so as well
Well, that's one way to win a game.
Nail-biter at the end. Good win with the short bench!
One of the best coaching jobs I've seen. A short handed team with one of our key players on the bench for much of the second half?? Amazing!! And Alec?? The best to ever wear the Brown and Gold!! :thewave:
Great Short Handed Win....Funny... the Vegas Line was 3...
"How do they know?"
8-2... heading home... let's hope the JA/MJ issue is behind us for a really good Indiana State team coming in.
Holy Cow! That took a day or two off the end of my life! Gutty win. Refs mysterious. This team knows how to win ugly and I think that is really important in college basketball. Todd is a lot more fun to listen to when he's not on ESPN 3 (really lets the emotion come through more). Great work Nick Davidson again!
our RPI just JUMPED to 40 !! WarrenNolan really liked that win...
Quote from: a3uge on December 10, 2016, 08:46:35 PM
Quote from: Smj on December 10, 2016, 08:42:39 PM
Shane fouled out when a player rolls around on the floor... weak call...
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He HAS to be smarter there. Shane has been playing out of control all night.
Smarter? He just reached down for the ball. We will have to agree to disagree. (Earlier I thought Shane needed to get under control but I was asking lotich to sit him for a bit....)
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Definitely a good game by evenly matched teams. Great win. Now, on to ISU, fresh off their win against Butler. That will be a tough one, but winnable.
What a way to win .... and without jubril.....
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I wonder if wearing a blindfold would make Alec Peters any less efficient at shooting free throws. Is there a better sound than the swoosh of the net quieting the "Overrated" chant?
Shane has been ...off...most of the season. This team will be even scarier if he returns to form (hopefully soon since we are nearing conference season).
I'm sure ValpoDad will have the scoop on our missing players for us 😉
Happy to see Nick contributing. Having another guy coach can trust out there just makes everyone better. Also, real happy to see AP draining those 3s!
I think the argument could be made this win is just as good as RIU considering it was in the road and short handed. But seeing Paul's tweet about Lottich comments, or lack thereof, on our two suspensions seems to indicate this may be a more serious issue.
Gutsy win without two of our main contributors. I didn't mind the refs at all, like some of you did. I thought that it was fairly called throughout the game, giving and taking from each team. Always great to see your main player shove a poker in the eye of each of their students with that stupid overrated chant each time he touched the ball. I would say that 27 pts and 11 rebounds, with 10/17 shooting, showed that the ratings are correct ;).
Davidson needs to keep playing. He ended up with 6 assists to 0 turnovers. He is a steadying presence, and a smart player. He very much reminds me of Colclasure, in that he doesn't do anything flashy, but he keeps the tempo how we want it.
Quote from: VU2014 on December 10, 2016, 09:03:24 PM
Nail-biter at the end. Good win with the short bench!
I think something closer to "great" win is more appropriate given the circumstances. 2 of 6 players in a 6-man rotation are suspended prior to the game. Alec gets in foul trouble in the 1st half and has to sit for the several minutes. We quickly lose the lead, yet manage to the locker room down by only 5. Shane fouls out with several minutes remaining in the game, yet we take the lead down the stretch and hold on. Bench players that have barely gotten more than mop-up minutes play 66 of 200 high-pressure minutes in a hostile environment and contribute to the win. That - is a major accomplishment!
I saw Jubril at the game. Was Max there too? Do suspended players normally get to sit on the bench?
Hums, yes, players suspended due to team infractions are allowed and SHOULD be sitting on the bench. Even in "street" clothes.
This game scared me as I didn't how we would respond to losing to KY and we did under adverse circumstances. To put things in perspective, MO St. Is rated higher than Mizzou according to KenPom.
Alec had 12 points and 3 rebounds in the last 5:20!
I thought the reffing was sub-par. Called a couple of flops and miss some obvious ones. I don't think Peters was fouled on the last play at the three point line but was hacked at the basket the time before and no call. So in the end I guess things evened out.
He was definitely fouled on that last shot. It was not a terrible foul, but the guy had his arm at a 45 degree angle, which makes it easy to call such a foul. Dirk is the King of getting those types of foul calls :)
I've been super impressed with the resolve and poise of this team. I thought the game was pretty much over after they blew a 9 pt lead and Missouri State went up by 8. And also in the second half when Hammink fouled out and they took the lead - I was expecting Missouri State to pull away, but Tevonn hit a big three right away. Foul trouble, two last minute suspensions, some brutal calls, on the road... and they came out with a win.
This is already the 6th time Valpo has come back from a deficit in the 2nd half to win a game. It's been a fun year so far.
Quote from: valpotx on December 10, 2016, 10:40:39 PM
He was definitely fouled on that last shot. It was not a terrible foul, but the guy had his arm at a 45 degree angle, which makes it easy to call such a foul. Dirk is the King of getting those types of foul calls :)
That was a savvy, veteran move by Peters. The guy clearly had his hand in the bread basket and Peters caught him. He also knew the refs wouldn't miss two calls in a row on him. I thought it was pretty obvious, and even the pro-Missouri State announcers acknowledged it was the correct call.
RPI up to 38 :thumbsup:
Quote from: valpotx on December 10, 2016, 09:36:09 PM
Gutsy win without two of our main contributors. I didn't mind the refs at all, like some of you did. I thought that it was fairly called throughout the game, giving and taking from each team. Always great to see your main player shove a poker in the eye of each of their students with that stupid overrated chant each time he touched the ball. I would say that 27 pts and 11 rebounds, with 10/17 shooting, showed that the ratings are correct ;).
Davidson needs to keep playing. He ended up with 6 assists to 0 turnovers. He is a steadying presence, and a smart player. He very much reminds me of Colclasure, in that he doesn't do anything flashy, but he keeps the tempo how we want it.
I will disagree slightly on Davidson. Re-watch the last 6 minutes of the game. After Hammink Fouled out, they went at him every time and scored almost every time. He is a great guy to have in a pinch (like tonight), but under normal circumstances, he should not be getting that many minutes.
I think Alec is a great player. The last 5:30 of the game he made huge play after huge play. However, the player who kept us in the game for the first 34 minutes was Tevonn. The MSU announcers said it time and time again how tough and aggressive a player he is. When he is out (most of the time with an injury) or not playing well, that lack of toughness and aggressiveness can really show.
DAVIDSON is not a lock em up defender. But in the final 6-minutes they went 2/2 against him. Both shots were fade away and as far from the hoop as a shooter can get inside the 3-point line.
I see your point on the defensive side, but he's not a liability which is exactly what we needed. If he can get us 8-10 minutes a game +a/to ratio than its plus business.
I went back and watched the last 5 minutes a couple times and have a few thoughts. Alec definitely got fouled going up on the last shot. a3uge described what happened perfectly. Nick's overall calmness with the ball at all times was invaluable after Shane fouled out, and although they went at him, most of the shots made over him were contested from 18 feet. The two tiny guards from MSU are outstanding scorers. Nick's toughness, smarts, and calm demeanor reminds me a lot of the intangibles that Jake Diebler brought to the table. Overall the officiating was abysmal. The fact that we had to call a timeout because they wouldn't reset the shot clock to :15 after the blatant kick was incredible. Finally, Valpo has a truly great young head coach.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on December 11, 2016, 12:02:28 AM
Both shots were fade away
I don't think either shot was a fadeaway, they were step back jumpers. Looked like decent defense on the first one, but crazy soft defense / huge cushion on the second. Classic case of compensating for lack of speed and athleticism, fearing the blow-by drive.
Not sure why anyone is saying Alec didn't get fouled. He clearly was slapped on the right wrist/forearm during the shot. It doesn't matter if it was the first five seconds or the last, he got fouled.
(http://i66.tinypic.com/30kfywj.png)
Not the easiest to see, but you can definitely tell that his right hand is off the ball, which is a result of the contact.
Here's the report from the Springfield newspaper and shows the foul as well as part of the presser. A really good win against a team that will make some noise in The Valley this season.
http://www.news-leader.com/story/sports/college/msu/2016/12/10/bears-lose-heartbreaker-valpo/95003176/
I don't think any other HL team goes to Missouri state and picks up a win. I'm certain no other HL team goes to Missouri state without a starter who was a HL 6th man award winner and their backup point guard, and still produce a win.
We have a good young coach. I agree. However in the college game, recruiting is a very big deal. And that has yet to be seen.
Quote from: oklahomamick on December 11, 2016, 08:33:09 AM
We have a good young coach. I agree. However in the college game, recruiting is a very big deal. And that has yet to be seen.
True. I always thought that WSU's Donlon got more out of his players than any other coach in the HL. Unfortunately, his recruiting skills didn't match his coaching skills. That combination doesn't wear well at programs with a history of competing for championships.
Another fan meltdown from an opposing team:
Fire Paul Lusk tonight...
http://missouristate.247sports.com/Board/59468/Contents/Fire-Paul-Lusk-tonight-dont-waste-this-years-talent-with-him-49714839
We don't know the details but this appears to be Jabril's second team suspension. Says a lot about his commitment and lack of respect for his teammates and program. Maybe I'm way off base and obviously don't know the details but very disappointing.
Quote from: wh on December 11, 2016, 09:55:11 AM
Another fan meltdown from an opposing team:
Fire Paul Lusk tonight...
http://missouristate.247sports.com/Board/59468/Contents/Fire-Paul-Lusk-tonight-dont-waste-this-years-talent-with-him-49714839
Those are fun to read and put games(and teams) into a different light. I think they have a lot of talent and hope they do well this season....
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Quote from: Chairback on December 11, 2016, 10:32:25 AM
We don't know the details but this appears to be Jabril's second team suspension. Says a lot about his commitment and lack of respect for his teammates and program. Maybe I'm way off base and obviously don't know the details but very disappointing.
For a team trying to build an at-large resume, a loss to a good, but not great, mid-major like MSU could have devastating effects down the road. Whatever Jubril and Max did, they needlessly put that goal in jeopardy. It's enough that the coaches have to worry about dealing with player injuries and illnesses, without guys shooting themselves in the foot.
Did Jaume Sorolla come out in the 2nd half?
Thought I'd post this story here for posterity... as written by THE SID...
http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2016-17/15980/crusaders-emerge-victorious-in-saturday-night-slugfest/#.WE2UucszU5s
Quote from: oklahomamick on December 11, 2016, 12:04:11 PM
Did Jaume Sorolla come out in the 2nd half?
•With two rotation players in street clothes Saturday, head coach Matt Lottich shortened his rotation to just six players in the second half. Williams, Sorolla and Peters each played the entire final 20 minutes.
I, too, thought Jaume played very well. Agree with oklahomamick. Sorolla made several good decisions to pass the ball after a rebound or loose ball, instead of taking an ill-advised shot or taking a step(s). Viewing his progression to date, I am impressed. Heck, I am impressed that he can catch the ball in traffic...Nice to see this in a Valpo big man.
Very disappointed in hearing about Jubril and Max, especially for JA since he has been there before. What is going on? Is this for more than 1 game?
Quote from: valpo64 on December 11, 2016, 01:38:07 PM
Very disappointed in hearing about Jubril and Max, especially for JA since he has been there before. What is going on? Is this for more than 1 game?
Darn good question! What the heck is a "University matter"?? If it was, say, a curfew violation, that would fall under a team rule. If they were out and got into a fight, that would be a public matter, most likely. This almost seems like an eligibility issue. If so, this could take a while. I would expect some sort of clarification fairly soon but I sure don't have any insight into what is going on.
Quote from: vu72 on December 11, 2016, 03:57:52 PM
Quote from: valpo64 on December 11, 2016, 01:38:07 PM
Very disappointed in hearing about Jubril and Max, especially for JA since he has been there before. What is going on? Is this for more than 1 game?
Darn good question! What the heck is a "University matter"?? If it was, say, a curfew violation, that would fall under a team rule. If they were out and got into a fight, that would be a public matter, most likely. This almost seems like an eligibility issue. If so, this could take a while. I would expect some sort of clarification fairly soon but I sure don't have any insight into what is going on.
The whole "University Matter" seems like a classroom issue to me. The only thing I can think of is that they were caught cheating on a take home final or a research paper or something. Since finals are not over yet, it can't be that they failed a class. So, some sort of cheating or plagiarism would be my best guess.
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Quote from: vu72 on December 11, 2016, 03:57:52 PM
Quote from: valpo64 on December 11, 2016, 01:38:07 PM
Very disappointed in hearing about Jubril and Max, especially for JA since he has been there before. What is going on? Is this for more than 1 game?
Darn good question! What the heck is a "University matter"?? If it was, say, a curfew violation, that would fall under a team rule. If they were out and got into a fight, that would be a public matter, most likely. This almost seems like an eligibility issue. If so, this could take a while. I would expect some sort of clarification fairly soon but I sure don't have any insight into what is going on.
The whole "University Matter" seems like a classroom issue to me. The only thing I can think of is that they were caught cheating on a take home final or a research paper or something. Since finals are not over yet, it can't be that they failed a class. So, some sort of cheating or plagiarism would be my best guess.
A good guess and probably correct. It is odd however as one (Jubril) is a Sports Media major and one, (Max) is an International Business major. Doubt they were cheating on an exam together!
Let's pick cheating....how are penalties set for that? University related that is. I know when we were there a board of our peers and maybe a faculty member met for disciplinary? Are there set rules for athletics pertaining to cheating?
Hate to compare it to NFL but look at the sort of over reaction that takes place. Cheating is wrong if they did this, but are we talking slap on the wrist? Severity and frequency aside, first offense.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on December 11, 2016, 09:57:49 PM
Let's pick cheating....how are penalties set for that? University related that is. I know when we were there a board of our peers and maybe a faculty member met for disciplinary? Are there set rules for athletics pertaining to cheating?
Hate to compare it to NFL but look at the sort of over reaction that takes place. Cheating is wrong if they did this, but are we talking slap on the wrist? Severity and frequency aside, first offense.
Scanned the provisions of the Academic Honor Code and the Athletic Handbook. Looks like a first cheating offense is an F for the course. Also looks like academic chesting is treated as a level-2 student athlete violation, subject to a 1-game suspension or 5% of total scheduled games, whichever is greater. That would mean 2-game suspensions.
This is, of course, totally speculative and not intended to infer in any way that MJ and JA are guilty of cheating or anything else.
Eligibility-type issues (NCAA Clearinghouse) came to my mind also, but it seems very late in the game for those. And, Jubril seems particularly unlikely to be involved.
The Honor Code did, I'll admit, also come to mind. I hate to speculate on such matters, and I hope to see them back in the game on Saturday. But I am, of course, curious.
In case any fans or alumni might be curious about the Honor Code and Council these days:
You can find some details at
http://www.valpo.edu/honor-council/
I don't have much experience with the Honor Council as it pertains to student athletes. And, the Council itself has undergone some changes in the last five years. I don't think the dust has yet settled. The "standard penalty" for a first offense, if you're found guilty, is for now still failing the course. Exceptions are possible for "extenuating circumstances". There is some discussion about allowing more discretion re the "standard penalty", but I don't know that anything has yet officially changed.
The Honor Council, almost like the NCAA Clearinghouse, can be very slow. Some of the changes I mention have related to bringing some professional management to the table, instead of just "volunteer" students and faculty, to try to expedite the process. I would not at all be surprised if cases that come up in December stretch out into January (or beyond?). There are required meetings, investigations, the hearing itself, etc.
It may be that a guilty plea can work its way through the system significantly more quickly.
Again, I have no idea how this applies to student athletes or their athletic eligibility. And certainly no knowledge about whether any particular students on any particular team have been accused of any academic indiscretion. VU student athletes fairly generally take their classes seriously and as far as I know the men's basketball team has a very good record.
We really need Jubril back, but I was impressed with Sorolla. He isn't a game changer or a matchup problem, but he doesn't seem like a liability on either end either.
Davidson getting 21 minutes was shocking. I thought Bradford would have gotten more than 8 minutes, but how can you reward a player that has 4 points, 1 assist in the past 6 games? Really concerning. I know he's just a freshman and he's had limited opportunities, but he has to play himself into the lineup, and he hasn't been doing that.
We can only speculate what "University matters" means that resulted in two key players being benched for one game and possibly more.
Oakland on the other hand, had XHM take off his jersey on the bench and throw it across the baseline. Kampe stormed over and sent him to the locker room with one of the assistants. Will be interesting to see if he has to sit a game or two.
Quote from: oklahomamick on December 12, 2016, 10:05:32 AM
We can only speculate what "University matters" means that resulted in two key players being benched for one game and possibly more.
Oakland on the other hand, had XHM take off his jersey on the bench and throw it across the baseline. Kampe stormed over and sent him to the locker room with one of the assistants. Will be interesting to see if he has to sit a game or two.
That seems to be definitely an Athletic Department/Team matter, similar to a certain Harden brother, Tom Smith, a water fountain and a hand gesture.... 8-)
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Quote from: oklahomamick on December 12, 2016, 10:05:32 AM
We can only speculate what "University matters" means that resulted in two key players being benched for one game and possibly more.
Oakland on the other hand, had XHM take off his jersey on the bench and throw it across the baseline. Kampe stormed over and sent him to the locker room with one of the assistants. Will be interesting to see if he has to sit a game or two.
That seems to be definitely an Athletic Department/Team matter, similar to a certain Harden brother, Tom Smith, a water fountain and a hand gesture.... 8-)
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Quote from: wh on December 11, 2016, 10:17:29 PMAlso looks like academic chesting
I'd really like to hear your definition of "academic chesting." Is that a post exam celebration or something else? Sure hope it isn't something else!! ;)
Quote from: bbtds on December 13, 2016, 04:10:21 PM
Quote from: wh on December 11, 2016, 10:17:29 PMAlso looks like academic chesting
I'd really like to hear your definition of "academic chesting." Is that a post exam celebration or something else? Sure hope it isn't something else!! ;)
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Peters gets snubbed for HL Player of the week. Gotta love this "share the love" society. Winner (NKU guard) averages 23.5 ppg....Alec 25 ppg and 9.5 reb.
Oh well, hopefully onto bigger and better things.
Doesn't mean it wasn't, but I would like to point out the word "suspended" never appeared in the statement that was released. The words I saw were "will sit out, due to a university matter."
Sounded to me like an issue still in adjudication, but I'm not well-informed, so take it with a grain of salt.
It was great running into oklahomamick at halftime (and his better half).
Parking was much more of an issue than it was 3 years ago (I'm pretty sure I parked across from the arena in 2013). I had to go 4 blocks away (didn't mind - got some exercise that way) and park in a self-service metered lot where you punch in how much time you need, your license plate number, slide your credit card in, etc. Then you get a text message within 10 minutes of your expiration and you can respond to it to extend your time. It was 1 dollar an hour originally, 75 cents per hour for extension. And there was no one there to stop you from just parking and leaving, but the lot is monitored and I imagine they would tow you if you didn't pay.
Every once in awhile I found myself yelling out something like "that's travelling!" and the guy in the row in front of me who kept telling Shane to go back to whatever country he thought he was from turned around eventually and said, "you know the Valpo section is over there" (pointing across to the other side of the court), to which I replied, "I TRIED to get a ticket over there and there weren't any available." After the game several of them remarked to me that it was a good game and I replied in kind, so it was all in good fun.
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