I thought about naming this thread AP2K ... but I don't want to distract from the that this team needs to rebound, RPI plummeted to 61 after the Thursday game, now back up to 60 slipping past the Badgers last night.
Going up against a Chicago State team that has yet to play a D1 game at home in that new arena they have, 2-10 with wins over #340 Western Illinois and #320 Southeast Missouri State; lost to # 196 Troy State by 18 on Friday night
Nolan has us favored by 23.
Here's the link to the cougar roster:
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/roster/_/id/2130/chicago-state-cougars
and their stats:
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/2130/chicago-state-cougars
game plan: Fred Sims doesn't score and Trayvon Palmer doesn't get to the boards...and we start a new home winning streak.
Merry Christmas everyone!
Dec. 18?
Wasn't Chi State having financial issue last year? Should be a ham and egger win, especially after learning a lesson not taking Santa Clara seriously.
fixed the date. ???
Exigency:
1. exigent state or character; urgency.
2. Usually, exigencies. the need, demand, or requirement intrinsic to a circumstance, condition, etc.:
the exigencies of city life.
3. a case or situation that demands prompt action or remedy; emergency:
He promised help in any exigency.
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This posting on the CSU website is undated.
http://www.csu.edu/boardoftrustee/financialexigency_Delete%20after%20Confirmation.htm
70-67 Chicago State
88-60 Valpo
Quote from: ValpoFan1000 on December 24, 2016, 09:48:01 AM
70-67 Chicago State
I thought you were done with the program?
Quote from: usc4valpo on December 24, 2016, 09:18:49 AM
Dec. 18?
Wasn't Chi State having financial issue last year? Should be a ham and egger win, especially after learning a lesson not taking Santa Clara seriously.
Financial difficulty does not necessarily a loser make. But in this case it comes pretty darn close.
Does anyone remember the last time we lost to Chicago State?
Yes, I think it was in the freakin' conference tourney in 2004 in Kansas City. Maybe they've beaten us more recently...even maybe at home.
Oakland went on to win as a sub-500 team getting a bid that year if I recall. Perhaps I don't. Dan Oppland and Mo Kone debacle I think. Not sure. If so, that was the bottom out of Valpo's post-1998 run. At the time, we fans hated life because we had a dark tunnel ahead.
We had no idea Horizon bid was coming or that Bryce would take the reins and re-charge recruiting. Looking back now, it was just a blip or three on a strong two decades. But boy it looked bleak after the Chicago State loss.
ValpoFan1000 - too many negative waves baby.
Nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the room?
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Quote from: rustnvrsleeps@yahoo.com on December 24, 2016, 04:39:27 PM
Nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the room?
Jubril, Jay, or something else... then spit it out, I don't want to play 20 questions.
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Quote from: FWalum on December 24, 2016, 10:38:08 PM
Quote from: rustnvrsleeps@yahoo.com on December 24, 2016, 04:39:27 PM
Nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the room?
Jubril, Jay, or something else... then spit it out, I don't want to play 20 questions.
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Well I guess the elephant is not that big......I'm referring to Jubril. And who's Jay?
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Bro, you need to go back a few game treads to when this all broke. 🤔
Quote from: M on December 24, 2016, 11:24:41 PM
Bro, you need to go back a few game treads to when this all broke. [emoji848]
Bro nothing has broke, that's the problem. Everything is hush hush. Unless you have some inside scoop...? At the Santa Clara game everybody was talking about how no ones heard anything. Oh and Merry Christmas.
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I've said too much already🤐🤐.
Merry Christmas
Quote from: M on December 25, 2016, 07:13:31 AM
I've said too much already[emoji850][emoji850].
Merry Christmas
Hey M I found the thread you were referring to and now I know that Jaume Sorolla goes by Jay. But seriously any conversation you have about this team you need to have twice. One with Jubril and one without. For example, with Jubril we're winning the conference with two losses, without Jubril we'll be .500.....But then again it's just an opinion.
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That was really cool !!
Here's a thought to ponder. A couple of weeks ago at the last Board of Trustees meeting Tracy Dildy, who is also the Chicago State AD recommended that CSU start up a football team to compete in the Pioneer League.
Tracy Dildy the Chuck Wepner of college basketball.
News already broke on Jubril from our inside scoop....confirmed by chef. Not speculation it's fact. He gonna be out for the season. .500 team
If he's going to be out for the season, why would he still be in street clothes on the bench for every game? It's not like he has another year of eligibility after this year.
Agreed. Not sure we'd see him on the bench if an end of career decision had already been made. It's still possible, but I'm hoping we see him playing on Dec 28th. Does that mark 3 games at that point? Think it's telling with the next game...
Though to be fair, I've thought that every game since the suspension.
Inside scoop 😂😂😂😂
Okay you will all see. I'm a reliable source. Time will tell
I believe you, not sure how you could make something like that up....or why, unless you're really bored. So if it is true I'd say Alec is the one paying the biggest price. He could of went anywhere and decided to stay home and play with his "brothers" so they could make a run in the tournament.
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Valpofan, you still haven't answered why he would be sitting on the bench still if he was out for the rest of the year. That doesn't make any sense. Him sitting on the bench suggests that the suspension hasn't been decided yet or his suspension is less than a year. Both of those are different from what you're saying.
Reliable is appreciated when you're proven right. But for now a healthy bit of skepticism is acceptable.
You can't hate us for being curious, and for hoping you only heard 1/2 the story...
That is unless you are the manager at the heart of all this. In which case your word is worth less than dirt.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on December 26, 2016, 08:51:13 AM
Reliable is appreciated when you're proven right. But for now a healthy bit of skepticism is acceptable.
You can't hate us for being curious, and for hoping you only heard 1/2 the story...
That is unless you are the manager at the heart of all this. In which case your word is worth less than dirt.
That doesn't make me feel good Field Goodie.
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Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on December 26, 2016, 08:51:13 AM
Reliable is appreciated when you're proven right. But for now a healthy bit of skepticism is acceptable.
You can't hate us for being curious, and for hoping you only heard 1/2 the story...
That is unless you are the manager at the heart of all this. In which case your word is worth less than dirt.
I'm starting to think this too... Guy is clearly trolling at this point.
...
Is Saders back in his multiple personality format? I notice 3-4 new names pop up that are all fairly similar :)
This isn't saders style though.
My comment about Jay was concerning his trip back to Spain to be with his ailing father. Do we know anything more about that situation and how many games he is likely to miss??
The article made it sound like just a 1 game absence.
Jubril texted Paul Oren saying "I'm fuc*ed per my source
Quote from: ValpoFan1000 on December 26, 2016, 05:31:48 PM
Jubril texted Paul Oren saying "I'm fuc*ed per my source
I doubt this happened. Paul has repeatedly reported that he doesn't have any information regarding Jubril's status.
Chicago State ? ???
Quote from: FWalum on December 26, 2016, 04:47:48 PMMy comment about Jay was concerning his trip back to Spain to be with his ailing father. Do we know anything more about that situation and how many games he is likely to miss??
Quote from: M on December 26, 2016, 04:50:29 PMThe article made it sound like just a 1 game absence.
I am just thinking that would be an awfully quick trip.
Can I just ask how the heck Chicago State got on our schedule? What an RPI drag. This will be the 3rd time in 5 years we've played them... Chicago State might not even be a school in a year or two because the City of Chicago and the State of Illinois are utterly broke and the school can't self sustain itself with revenue. Chicago State only had 86 freshman enroll this year for their Fall Semester. Let me repeat 86. Something tells me Chicago State won't be around much longer... http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-state-university-enrollment-future-met-20160927-story.html
My only guess that we're playing them is because of Jubril's brother Jawad was in the team last year.
Quote from: VU2014 on December 27, 2016, 12:59:07 PM
Can I just ask how the heck Chicago State got on our schedule? What an RPI drag. This will be the 3rd time in 5 years we've played them... Chicago State might not even be a school in a year or two because the City of Chicago and the State of Illinois are utterly broke and the school can't self sustain itself with revenue. Chicago State only had 86 freshman enroll this year for their Fall Semester. Let me repeat 86. Something tells me Chicago State won't be around much longer... http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-state-university-enrollment-future-met-20160927-story.html
My only guess that we're playing them is because of Jubril's brother Jawad was in the team last year.
How's that for irony.....?
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Quote from: EddieCabot on December 26, 2016, 09:10:47 PMI doubt this happened. Paul has repeatedly reported that he doesn't have any information regarding Jubril's status.
Seemed like maybe the tone changed a while back. The reporting is still that the team and university have made no comment. And obviously neither of the beat writers has reported anything. But, are they still reporting that they don't _know_ anything?
Quote from: VU2014 on December 27, 2016, 12:59:07 PMCan I just ask how the heck Chicago State got on our schedule? What an RPI drag. This will be the 3rd time in 5 years we've played them... Chicago State might not even be a school in a year or two because the City of Chicago and the State of Illinois are utterly broke and the school can't self sustain itself with revenue.
It seems like Luke Gore, maybe last year, had reasonably nice things to say about the coaching staff and their facilities. That Valpo basketball liked to support their program, something like that. Made it sound like a series that was likely to continue. But, that was perhaps before their financial situation got really bad.
Couple of thoughts:
I find it odd that Valpofan1000 is both a fairweather fan and seems to have inside info on the Jubril situation. Inside sources don't usually quit on the team after a loss to Santa Clara. On the other hand, Chef's confirmation is a huge boost in reputability to me.
I have little doubt that our beat writers know more than they're letting on. They are both responsible enough to not stir the rumour mill at this point and to look for official University announcement before breaking anything.
I know little about Chicago State other than it's effectively a must win for team confidence going into conference play. I have a lot of respect for CSU's players who continue to give the team their full effort regardless of the financial situation. Nonetheless, I expect a 20 point win.
Our 5 position is absolutely our weakest link (followed by PG), but even without Jubril, I think Valpo can compete for the conference title and tourney bid. Smits is a work in progress, but Sorolla has generally shown he can take minutes without being a liability. He doesn't do all the little things that Jubril does, but he has length and I think he'll improve. As a whole, the HL is worse this year than last year. Oakland is the other clear contender, but I think they're weaker than last season (nice win vs. UGA though). GB, UIC, WSU and NKU have shown promise but are inconsistent, and rest of the league is abysmal. Finishing middle of the pack would likely include losses to horrible teams, or getting swept by GB or UIC. I just don't see that happening.
The SC game was a debacle, but remember we won a tough game at Mo. St. before then. All is not lost.
When I asked Jim Peters via tweet he responded with " not an injury? IDK much" so either the writers are really good actors or they don't know much.
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Hey, Alec Peters is only one point away from 2,000 career points. Taking a wild guess he'll accomplish that tomorrow.
I hate to speculate on the situation but if I had to bet I'd say Paul, Aaron, Todd and some others who are very close to the Athletic Department and program probably already know most of the story of whats up with the Jubril suspension. But I completely understand the professionalism of not saying anything and just say you haven't heard anything.
For what its worth, I asked a friend who is a senior and he said there is a rumor among students that Jubril is out for the year. But to be crystal clear, he said its just a rumor and speculation among students.
Quote from: rustnvrsleeps@yahoo.com on December 27, 2016, 04:22:10 PM
When I asked Jim Peters via tweet he responded with " not an injury? IDK much" so either the writers are really good actors or they don't know much.
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Because asking the high school beat reporter is much better than going to the guy who is actually on the Valpo beat...
Well now I'm guilty of feeding the troll.
If the situation is some sort of academic fraud I assume this would be processed through the Honor Council. If that is so, the penalty can be simply failing grades in the applicable courses or it could lead to more serious consequences such as expulsion. The hearing itself I would guess can't happen until there are enough council members ready to come back to campus to conduct the hearing which may be after the Spring semester begins. So it may still be a while.
The greater point is that I recall reading a few years ago that a violation, even when a matter of record, is a private matter and that the information is only made available to a select few which did not go beyond the instructor involved, the Dean of Students and the Dean of the course of study of the violator. So, even under the worst case scenario which included the player being booted off the team or expelled, we may only hear that the actions are for "violations of the university code"....or something such as that.
The code and procedure has changed a few times so I'm not sure if the privacy issue remains.
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Quote from: rustnvrsleeps@yahoo.com on December 27, 2016, 04:22:10 PM
When I asked Jim Peters via tweet he responded with " not an injury? IDK much" so either the writers are really good actors or they don't know much.
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Because asking the high school beat reporter is much better than going to the guy who is actually on the Valpo beat...
Well now I'm guilty of feeding the troll.
It was a retweet from Hillary which was a retweet from Paul. It's an internet thing. I'm sure Peter and Paul (not THE Peter and Paul of course) talk when they're on break.
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Perhaps Valpo is facing Chicago State to pay tribute to former great Julian Hudson who was a dunk machine in the early eighties.
Chicago State University has serious issues and you would think because of the excessive state funding and unsatisfactory results that a merge or closure may happen. I think it would a shame but likely a necessity.
I am comfortable admitting this because I was found to be innocent, and I definitely was innocent. I was part of an Honor Council/Code Review during my 4th year, where another student claimed that I was cheating on a final, due to some paper that was under my desk/backpack that they felt might have had some answers written down. Little did they know that those papers were just a guest list for my upcoming wedding in a few months, that I had carried with me to class after my gf at the time had passed them to me on the way to class. Short-sighted on my part to not just keep them in my backpack instead of under the backpack, but the fact that I never looked down at them during the entire test, should have been an indication that they were nothing relevant.
This was during the Spring semester finals, and I had to wait the entire Summer before I could present my case, before my final grade could be reinstated/delivered. That was the most painful process to ever experience as a student, as I was close with that teacher (got A's on every single assignment/test as well), and I had to spend several months wondering if he also believed that I could do such a thing. Once I returned to campus for my 5th/final year, I was met by an Honor Code Investigator (aka another student), explained what happened, presented my evidence, and all was cleared. He told me that the accuser had just brought up the idea that I could have been cheating since the papers were torn out of a notebook (with the torn chads still attached), not that he ever saw me look down or shuffle any papers, even though there were multiple pages of that wedding list. I am not a crier at all, and I can admit that I was sniffling during this meeting, as I felt like such a criminal, when I had done nothing wrong.
It was complete BS that you can just fling an accusation such as this just on a guess, and that you were treated like you were guilty, until you finally had a chance to counter the accusation. Theoretically, you could just accuse anyone of cheating that you don't like, and cause them several weeks/months of consternation, without any repercussions to the accuser for leveling a false accusation. I truly hope that they have fine-tuned this process, as unless you have any viable reason/proof to accuse someone of such a thing, the accused should not be treated as I was, made to feel like a student convict, when I had done nothing wrong.
I am not saying that Jubril is innocent if this is happening to him, but the Honor Code Review process is very traumatic if you are innocent.
I am particularly excited about the game tonight because it is the first chance I get to wear the new Cutter & Buck Valpo Polo I got for Christmas. I'm wearing it every game day as long as they win. If they lose, I'm putting it in my closet and not wearing it again until the Montana football game on Labor Day weekend.
I hope I have to wear it so much I have to buy a new one!
For posterity, posted earlier today in the Santa Clara thread...(https://s24.postimg.org/x0piqwoed/1000.jpg)
Don't see Jay yet. Not warming up.
Don't see Jubril anywhere.
Saw Jubril. Forgot that Jay isn't playing.
Quote from: wh on December 28, 2016, 06:49:26 PM
Saw Jubril. Forgot that Jay isn't playing.
Thanks for the update....
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Very nice to see the team in person tonight, not too much fun with no student section though.
Nice bounceback win for the Crusaders. Onto the Horizon.
It was good for Smits to get some extended playing time, even though he is definitely a step below Jay at this point in their FR seasons. Are we pretty much assuming that Kiser is going to get a scholarship next season? They always talk about how much the coaches like his ability and tenaciousness, which you usually don't hear about walk-ons.
Quote from: hailcrusaders on December 27, 2016, 03:43:08 PMNonetheless, I expect a 20 point win.
Oooo! So close.
Sloppiest, most terrible win that Valpo will likely ever get in the next 10 years and the 10 years prior.
Quote from: valpotx on December 28, 2016, 10:16:08 PM
It was good for Smits to get some extended playing time, even though he is definitely a step below Jay at this point in their FR seasons. Are we pretty much assuming that Kiser is going to get a scholarship next season? They always talk about how much the coaches like his ability and tenaciousness, which you usually don't hear about walk-ons.
Smits was playing half as good as Kiser. Without Derrik's height he would have nothing at all. He did alter some shots and finally after several tries got some shots to fall right under the basket.
If we don't do something about the way we handle the ball (Hammink, Bradford, Joseph, Williams, even to some degree Peters) we'll lose more than half of our conference games. So, so sloppy!
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Quote from: hailcrusaders on December 27, 2016, 03:43:08 PMNonetheless, I expect a 20 point win.
Oooo! So close.
Sloppiest, most terrible win that Valpo will likely ever get in the next 10 years and the 10 years prior.
Valpo was down to a NAIA team at half time this year.
Quote from: a3uge on December 28, 2016, 10:28:31 PM
Quote from: historyman on December 28, 2016, 10:24:37 PM
Quote from: hailcrusaders on December 27, 2016, 03:43:08 PMNonetheless, I expect a 20 point win.
Oooo! So close.
Sloppiest, most terrible win that Valpo will likely ever get in the next 10 years and the 10 years prior.
Valpo was down to a NAIA team at half time this year.
If Chicago State were anywhere close to as good as Trinity Itnl played that night I would say you were right. But we played much, much better in that Trinity game. CSU's offense was putting me to sleep it was so slow.
18 turnovers with 5 turnovers going to Alec did not a pretty game make. There is something missing in the force tonight.
Sorolla missed tonight game after going home to Spain to visit his ailing father. He WILL be back for Friday's game. A definitive quote from Coach in the post game interview tonight.
John Kizer showed some good things tonight. Earned all 14 minutes he played, 4-4 from the field; and Karys hitting that 3 with 8-seconds left in the game! Plenty of game film to watch to improve things for Friday's HL opener at the pavilion.
Quote from: historyman on December 28, 2016, 10:27:36 PMSmits was playing half as good as Kiser. Without Derrik's height he would have nothing at all. He did alter some shots and finally after several tries got some shots to fall right under the basket.
We are all somewhat disappointed with Derrik's play but his high potential can not be quickly developed without big time minutes on the floor. So I will continue to enjoy witnessing his numerous mistakes and hope that you will learn to enjoy them with me. Yes, he is far more of a project than I had hoped but the payoff on this project could be enormous and might come much sooner than we think.
Quote from: justducky on December 29, 2016, 12:21:00 AMQuote from: historyman on December 28, 2016, 10:27:36 PMSmits was playing half as good as Kiser. Without Derrik's height he would have nothing at all. He did alter some shots and finally after several tries got some shots to fall right under the basket.
We are all somewhat disappointed with Derrik's play but his high potential can not be quickly developed without big time minutes on the floor. So I will continue to enjoy witnessing his numerous mistakes and hope that you will learn to enjoy them with me. Yes, he is far more of a project than I had hoped but the payoff on this project could be enormous and might come much sooner than we think.
It's easy to compare Derrik to Vashil since they're both "project" centers, but they are completely different players coming from completely different backgrounds. I hope that Smits is able to make adjustments to the college game more quickly than Vashil, despite his injuries, given his experience with the game. Patience is indeed a virtue, and if we are without Jubril for an extended period of time, that may have the silver lining of hastening Derrik's development. In the meantime, I'm glad to see Sorolla come around, and hope he continues on that path.
I was one of the only (if not THE only) proponents of Vashil during his first 2 seasons, and I will be a proponent for Smits :). He seems to still be growing into his body, so while he has several years more experience with basketball than Vashil had before joining Valpo, I do think that he also has a high ceiling. If he gets his body healthy, and is able to gain control of his lanky body, he is going to be a solid player for us in years 3 and 4. As someone on this board always liked to say, BOOK IT ;).
Quote from: wh on December 28, 2016, 06:49:26 PM
Saw Jubril. Forgot that Jay isn't playing.
Before the game, Jubril was sitting in the student section (he sat on the bench during the game). He did not say that he was out for the season; he was just as evasive as all of the official reports. It feels as if the honor council has not yet made a decision -- I can think of no other explanation for the delay in certainty.
My problem with Smits is that he doesn't play with any intensity... and that's something that isn't easily taught. There were a couple plays in particular that summed up his season so far: one in the first half where he tried to draw a charge at the top of the arc (he should have been called for a block), and the other was when he tried to flip the ball in with his left hand under the basket instead of going up strong and drawing contact.
Quote from: humbleopinion on December 29, 2016, 07:15:56 AMQuote from: wh on December 28, 2016, 06:49:26 PMSaw Jubril. Forgot that Jay isn't playing.
Before the game, Jubril was sitting in the student section (he sat on the bench during the game). He did not say that he was out for the season; he was just as evasive as all of the official reports. It feels as if the honor council has not yet made a decision -- I can think of no other explanation for the delay in certainty.
If the Honor Council is involved there's an excellent chance the hearing has not even been held and may not be until everyone is back on campus.
QuoteMy problem with Smits is that he doesn't play with any intensity... and that's something that isn't easily taught. There were a couple plays in particular that summed up his season so far: one in the first half where he tried to draw a charge at the top of the arc (he should have been called for a block), and the other was when he tried to flip the ball in with his left hand under the basket instead of going up strong and drawing contact.
I'm not totally down on Smits. He is a player who definitely needs playing time to get experience and make mistakes. I'm more high on what he can be as an offensive player then his potential on the defensive abilities.
He showed a decent jump hook last night. He has some decent touch on the ball when I see him on shoot around before the games. But in the games he just rushes things sometimes.
Derrik looks skinnier this year then he did last season, before the ankle injury. I think he lost some time in the weight room when he was rehabbing his ankle last year. He's also still growing apparently which is probably hurting his agility. Derrik has decent vertical speed for a center but his reaction time when he's defending in the paint isn't great. Good technique, anticipation, experience and physical maturity will allow him to improve his game defend in paint with time.
One thing that drives me nuts with Derrik though is that he needs to learn off to gain positioning for rebounds. That's where the intensity on rebounding I can agree with. I don't want to sound like a broken record but he will learn to improve his game boxing out the other player to put himself in a better position to grab rebounds. I don't want to sound to critical of Derrik but experience and a long summer working with Coach Gore and battling with Jay will help him. Big men take longer to develop then guard and forwards. I made the mistake of being down on Vashil his first couple years because he looked like like a 7 foot 'bambi' on the court but with playing time, hard work and great coaching he turned out to be one of the best defensive players in school history. Vashil and Derrik are very different players but the moral of the story is work ethic, playing time, and good coaching will help improve their game.
Quote from: a3uge on December 29, 2016, 07:54:30 AM
My problem with Smits is that he doesn't play with any intensity... and that's something that isn't easily taught. There were a couple plays in particular that summed up his season so far: one in the first half where he tried to draw a charge at the top of the arc (he should have been called for a block), and the other was when he tried to flip the ball in with his left hand under the basket instead of going up strong and drawing contact.
Timidity often presents it's self as lack of intensity. I agree that he looks very tentative in almost everything that he does. He seems uncertain as to where he fits in the scheme of things as opposed to Jay who seems to understand his role better than Derrik.
Quote from: FWalum on December 29, 2016, 10:45:51 AM
Quote from: a3uge on December 29, 2016, 07:54:30 AM
My problem with Smits is that he doesn't play with any intensity... and that's something that isn't easily taught. There were a couple plays in particular that summed up his season so far: one in the first half where he tried to draw a charge at the top of the arc (he should have been called for a block), and the other was when he tried to flip the ball in with his left hand under the basket instead of going up strong and drawing contact.
Timidity often presents it's self as lack of intensity. I agree that he looks very tentative in almost everything that he does. He seems uncertain as to where he fits in the scheme of things as opposed to Jay who seems to understand his role better than Derrik.
I don't think it's just being timid though. Take last year - Tevonn Walker lost confidence and became timid shooting the ball. I don't think he ever lacked intensity - he was still battling for rebounds, hustling down court, diving for balls, etc. I get there's a lack of confidence right now with Smits down low that's preventing him from instinctively throwing it down once grabbing the ball (something Vashil developed). It just pains me seeing a 7ft center try to draw a charge at the top of the key instead of using his size down low. It pains me watching a 7ft center try to judge a ball bouncing off the rim instead of boxing out a smaller opponent. He just seems to be lacking the motor that guys like Vashil, KVW, and Urule had.
Chicago State's 16 1st half points are the fewest they have scored in 30 halves this season.
Chicago State's 45 2nd half points are the most they have scored in 30 halves this season.
An interesting dichotomy.