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Title: It only took them a year to do the kindergarten math
Post by: StlVUFan on May 26, 2011, 09:06:52 PM
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BKC_NCAA_BASKETBALL_RULES_?SITE=MIPON&SECTION=BASKETBALL&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-05-26-12-51-38 (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BKC_NCAA_BASKETBALL_RULES_?SITE=MIPON&SECTION=BASKETBALL&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-05-26-12-51-38)

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Title: Re: It only took them a year to do the kindergarten math
Post by: vuweathernerd on May 26, 2011, 09:57:15 PM
some interesting changes here. i'm interested to see how they're going to deal with flagrants in a 30 game ncaa season vs an 82 game nba season. but i'm glad they're putting the no-charge arc on the floor. that should've been there from the start.
Title: Re: It only took them a year to do the kindergarten math
Post by: sectionee on May 26, 2011, 10:00:18 PM
Thats really going to mess with the HL officials.  They seem to like to call an offensive foul anytime a defender goes down.
Title: Re: It only took them a year to do the kindergarten math
Post by: StlVUFan on May 26, 2011, 10:50:16 PM
Quote from: vuweathernerd on May 26, 2011, 09:57:15 PM
some interesting changes here. i'm interested to see how they're going to deal with flagrants in a 30 game ncaa season vs an 82 game nba season. but i'm glad they're putting the no-charge arc on the floor. that should've been there from the start.

Seriously, how do you put the rule in one year, and TAKE A WHOLE YEAR TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT ENFORCEABLE???????????????????  Any 7-year-old had this computed already last year as soon as the rule was put in.  Is the entire rules committee brain dead or something?

Unbelievable.  ??? ::) :banghead: :rotfl:
Title: Re: It only took them a year to do the kindergarten math
Post by: ValpoHoops on May 27, 2011, 07:45:37 AM
The issue wasn't so much how to make it enforceable, rather that there are 800+ NCAA schools and 250+ NAIA schools (NAIA uses the NCAA rule book for basketball) that suddenly needed to put the arc on their floor, and the NCAA doesn't like the schools to use tape. So, you now essentially have 1000 schools that have to get their floors worked on in the next five months, at a time when most athletic departments are struggling for cash - especially the non-D1 schools.

What the should have done was announced this last year, to be started this coming year so schools could plan ahead. We already have had our floor painted this sunmer, and I'm not sure we will be able to afford to go back and get the arc down.
Title: Re: It only took them a year to do the kindergarten math
Post by: StlVUFan on May 27, 2011, 11:05:20 AM
Quote from: ValpoHoops on May 27, 2011, 07:45:37 AM
The issue wasn't so much how to make it enforceable, rather that there are 800+ NCAA schools and 250+ NAIA schools (NAIA uses the NCAA rule book for basketball) that suddenly needed to put the arc on their floor, and the NCAA doesn't like the schools to use tape. So, you now essentially have 1000 schools that have to get their floors worked on in the next five months, at a time when most athletic departments are struggling for cash - especially the non-D1 schools.

What the should have done was announced this last year, to be started this coming year so schools could plan ahead. We already have had our floor painted this sunmer, and I'm not sure we will be able to afford to go back and get the arc down.

That does make some sense.

Still, and your last paragraph points this out, how do you put in a rule last year and not *know* that it's going to take an actual arc painted on the court in order to enforce it consistently?  How did the member institutions not know that this was inevitable?  Did they (NCAA) think, "hey, maybe we can get by with out it"????  If I was Mark LaBarbera last year when the rule change was instituted, I'd have done all I could last year to allocate money to the budget for when they decreed that you have to paint an arc on the floor this year.
Title: Re: It only took them a year to do the kindergarten math
Post by: Valpo89 on May 27, 2011, 11:11:37 AM
How much can it really cost to paint a small arc in each lane?
Title: Re: It only took them a year to do the kindergarten math
Post by: valpomarketingguy on May 27, 2011, 11:15:06 AM
Quote from: Valpo89 on May 27, 2011, 11:11:37 AM
How much can it really cost to paint a small arc in each lane?

The cost is incurred because the paint has to be below the varnish of the floor.  Due to the foresight of Adam Klos here in the athletic department, the semicircles were painted on this past week during the yearly process of refinishing the court.  I'll have pictures for you eventually if you'd like.
Title: Re: It only took them a year to do the kindergarten math
Post by: StlVUFan on May 27, 2011, 01:42:25 PM
Quote from: valpomarketingguy on May 27, 2011, 11:15:06 AM
Quote from: Valpo89 on May 27, 2011, 11:11:37 AM
How much can it really cost to paint a small arc in each lane?

The cost is incurred because the paint has to be below the varnish of the floor.  Due to the foresight of Adam Klos here in the athletic department, the semicircles were painted on this past week during the yearly process of refinishing the court.  I'll have pictures for you eventually if you'd like.

:thumbsup: renewing my faith in humanity ;)
Title: Re: It only took them a year to do the kindergarten math
Post by: valpomarketingguy on May 27, 2011, 03:52:23 PM
Quote from: StlVUFan on May 27, 2011, 01:42:25 PM
Quote from: valpomarketingguy on May 27, 2011, 11:15:06 AM
Quote from: Valpo89 on May 27, 2011, 11:11:37 AM
How much can it really cost to paint a small arc in each lane?

The cost is incurred because the paint has to be below the varnish of the floor.  Due to the foresight of Adam Klos here in the athletic department, the semicircles were painted on this past week during the yearly process of refinishing the court.  I'll have pictures for you eventually if you'd like.

:thumbsup: renewing my faith in humanity ;)

Photos coming soon...
Title: Re: It only took them a year to do the kindergarten math
Post by: valpomarketingguy on May 27, 2011, 03:54:02 PM
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l285/cubsrule24/DSC_0388.jpg)

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l285/cubsrule24/DSC_0387.jpg)
Title: Re: It only took them a year to do the kindergarten math
Post by: ValpoHoops on May 27, 2011, 04:09:53 PM
I should clarify, when I say "our" floor, I don't mean VU anymore :(
Title: Re: It only took them a year to do the kindergarten math
Post by: KL31NY on May 27, 2011, 04:38:53 PM
Quote from: valpomarketingguy on May 27, 2011, 11:15:06 AM
Due to the foresight of Adam Klos here in the athletic department, the semicircles were painted on this past week during the yearly process of refinishing the court.

"Klos the Boss" at it again! Gotta love it!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: It only took them a year to do the kindergarten math
Post by: StlVUFan on May 27, 2011, 04:58:14 PM
Looks nice and unambiguous.  Thanks for the pics, and I'm glad to see VU was prepared for this.  :clap:
Title: Re: It only took them a year to do the kindergarten math
Post by: DMvalpo18 on May 27, 2011, 11:36:55 PM
Quote from: ValpoHoops on May 27, 2011, 04:09:53 PM
I should clarify, when I say "our" floor, I don't mean VU anymore :(

what do you mean?
Title: Re: It only took them a year to do the kindergarten math
Post by: valpofan56 on May 28, 2011, 12:01:28 AM
Quote from: DMvalpo18 on May 27, 2011, 11:36:55 PM
Quote from: ValpoHoops on May 27, 2011, 04:09:53 PM
I should clarify, when I say "our" floor, I don't mean VU anymore :(

what do you mean?

IUSB
Title: Re: It only took them a year to do the kindergarten math
Post by: dcvalpo on May 30, 2011, 11:07:18 PM
Quote from: KL31NY on May 27, 2011, 04:38:53 PM
Quote from: valpomarketingguy on May 27, 2011, 11:15:06 AM
Due to the foresight of Adam Klos here in the athletic department, the semicircles were painted on this past week during the yearly process of refinishing the court.

"Klos the Boss" at it again! Gotta love it!  :thumbsup:

Klos has done a fantastic job...lovin' it over here too!
Title: Re: It only took them a year to do the kindergarten math
Post by: dcvalpo on May 30, 2011, 11:07:41 PM
Quote from: valpofan56 on May 28, 2011, 12:01:28 AM
Quote from: DMvalpo18 on May 27, 2011, 11:36:55 PM
Quote from: ValpoHoops on May 27, 2011, 04:09:53 PM
I should clarify, when I say "our" floor, I don't mean VU anymore :(

what do you mean?

IUSB

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