A. Does this game need a full thread? ...When it's all you have to talk about...
so... next Saturday we go to the pavilion...to play the Flames who come in on a winning streak !
Here's their write-up on what they did to the Vikes on Saturday.
http://www.uicflames.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/013016aac.html (http://www.uicflames.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/013016aac.html)
one word that jumps out at me "Raucous" to describe their crowd.
The Box Score reports about 2,900 in attendance...seems like a typical crowd for the Flames this year.
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ilch/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2015-16/box_score/stats_20160131aaa.pdf (http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ilch/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2015-16/box_score/stats_20160131aaa.pdf)
Valpo 83
UIC 63
I'm looking at getting tickets for the game, but right now the only thing that's available is the corner over by the student section. I am planning on calling their ticket office to see if there's anything I can get that's closer to the Valpo bench or you know, in the center of the court. It's hard to believe the other sections are sold out.
Quote from: Kyle321n on February 01, 2016, 09:06:02 AM
I'm looking at getting tickets for the game, but right now the only thing that's available is the corner over by the student section. I am planning on calling their ticket office to see if there's anything I can get that's closer to the Valpo bench or you know, in the center of the court. It's hard to believe the other sections are sold out.
They aren't. They might be holding them out of internet sales due to inviting several schools (mostly elementary) to their games which they did last year. Most of those seats will be on sale come game day at the ticket office.
I was just looking at the same thing. The on-sale seating pattern is the same for e.g. the NKU game.
If you find anything better by phone, let us know. Otherwise, presumably there will be plenty of seats available walk-up. Hopefully you avoid Ticketmaster fees that way too.
But, what's with their pricing? Only two categories? A small number of floor seats at double price, and everything else is the same?
And that "same" is $25 per ticket for Valpo? Even upper deck?
And, even for NKU, it's $20? I guess it's Chicago. But, it seems like they're not trying very heard to fill the Pavilion.
My wife's engaged all day, so I was seriously considering bringing the kids up for the game, some kind of dinner in the city, etc. But, at $25 a ticket I'm thinking twice.
At least parking appears to be a deal... just $5 for basketball games, allegedly. Not quite sure how that'll work (validation? can I leave the car there when I go to dinner?).
Quote from: agibson on February 01, 2016, 12:05:06 PMAnd that "same" is $25 per ticket for Valpo? Even upper deck?
Looks like the price for the VU alumni event was just $15/ticket. I have an inquiry out to see if they're still available... Group pricing, perhaps.
The game may draw... VU alumni?... so maybe I should begrudge them premium pricing. Almost 6,000 last year. More than came to see Illinois play at the United Center this year.
A down year for UIC, maybe. But it's not like they were at the top of the conference last season, either.
UIC's Dixson picked up Freshman of the Week this week from the HL
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Dixson is the Freshman of the Week for the sixth time this season and the fourth time in the last six weeks. The Freeport, Ill., native averaged 28.0 points and 8.5 rebounds in two games last week. He secured his fourth double-double of the season on Thursday night with a career-high 32 points and a career-high tying 15 rebounds in UIC's game versus Youngstown State. On Saturday, he led UIC with 24 points, including 17 in the second half, as the Flames battled back from a 12-point first half deficit to defeat Cleveland State in overtime, 72-70.
Dixson is averaging 21.3 points per game in Horizon League contests to rank third in the League.
UIC returns to the hardwood on Saturday when it visits first-place Valparaiso.
even if they can't get the home/away schedule straightened out. (As an aside, they _still_ aren't including conference-games-only stats in their otherwise very handy pdf statistical releases; I was hoping they'd show up once we had a decent sample of conference games, but half-way through the season I'm losing my optimism.)
Quote from: agibson on February 01, 2016, 12:13:07 PMLooks like the pice for the VU alumni event was just $15/ticket. I have an inquiry out to see if they're still available... Group pricing, perhaps.
I'm told that there are still tickets ($15) available in the VU block. I'm not sure where the seats are. But, I'm told that if you buy tickets (in advance, from the Alumni Office) for just the game they can be collected at Will Call with a photo ID.
Alumni are likely to have an email or two announcing the event. Or give the Alumni Office a call. Or, send me a message and I can give you the URL for electronic signup/payment.
There's also an option with a bus ride from Valpo and (or maybe and/or?) an alumni reception, etc.
Last time I got tickets through that avenue my group (we had 6 people) was placed in two separate sections even though we ordered the 6 together, went in at the same time and picked up tickets from will call at the same time. Half the tickets were also in the last row in the far corner (Section 117) and it was tough to see the game on the opposite end of the court. Pretty disappointing to say the least. I wasn't able to call the UIC ticket office, but frankly I don't trust their will call system when it comes to opposing teams tickets as it seems they are shuffled and handed out randomly.
*Note, this has nothing to do with the Valpo ticket office as they didn't have anything to do with how UIC handled their ticket will call for the VU group.*
Interesting. Doesn't sound like a great operation.
My kids are pretty young, and are used to spreading out in the ARC. I figure there's a fair chance we end up sprawled out in the upper deck eventually - there should be at least a few thousand empty seats. If our assigned seats are poor, maybe it happens sooner rather than later.
Butler did that at Hinkle... you got a maximum of 3 seats together... and all were completely surrounded by other season ticket holders....
That happened two years in a row for us... This is chapter 3 in the "How to control the visibility and decibel level of your opposition crowd" book.
Chapter 1 is only schedule games with opponents more than 500 miles away
Chapter 2 is only schedule games with opponents with RPI of 250 or higher
Quote from: agibson on February 01, 2016, 01:36:43 PM
Interesting. Doesn't sound like a great operation.
My kids are pretty young, and are used to spreading out in the ARC. I figure there's a fair chance we end up sprawled out in the upper deck eventually - there should be at least a few thousand empty seats. If our assigned seats are poor, maybe it happens sooner rather than later.
If this was hockey I would totally buy seats in the upper deck and enjoy the game from up there, but in my experience basketball is better the closer to the action you are.
Quote from: Kyle321n on February 01, 2016, 09:06:02 AM
I'm looking at getting tickets for the game, but right now the only thing that's available is the corner over by the student section. I am planning on calling their ticket office to see if there's anything I can get that's closer to the Valpo bench or you know, in the center of the court. It's hard to believe the other sections are sold out.
I saw the same thing for their NIU game, and there were tons of fans who came to that game "dressed as empty chairs" (tm Jon Rooney). I don't know what the hell is going on with their on-line site, but something is weird.
Isn't there an alumni event for that game? That may be the way to go.
Quote from: StlVUFan on February 01, 2016, 01:54:12 PM
Quote from: Kyle321n on February 01, 2016, 09:06:02 AM
I'm looking at getting tickets for the game, but right now the only thing that's available is the corner over by the student section. I am planning on calling their ticket office to see if there's anything I can get that's closer to the Valpo bench or you know, in the center of the court. It's hard to believe the other sections are sold out.
I saw the same thing for their NIU game, and there were tons of fans who came to that game "dressed as empty chairs" (tm Jon Rooney). I don't know what the hell is going on with their on-line site, but something is weird.
Isn't there an alumni event for that game? That may be the way to go.
Tried that last season. Ended up with bad results (http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=2395.msg66453#msg66453). Not going through that again.
Quote from: Kyle321n on February 01, 2016, 02:19:44 PM
Quote from: StlVUFan on February 01, 2016, 01:54:12 PM
Quote from: Kyle321n on February 01, 2016, 09:06:02 AM
I'm looking at getting tickets for the game, but right now the only thing that's available is the corner over by the student section. I am planning on calling their ticket office to see if there's anything I can get that's closer to the Valpo bench or you know, in the center of the court. It's hard to believe the other sections are sold out.
I saw the same thing for their NIU game, and there were tons of fans who came to that game "dressed as empty chairs" (tm Jon Rooney). I don't know what the hell is going on with their on-line site, but something is weird.
Isn't there an alumni event for that game? That may be the way to go.
Tried that last season. Ended up with bad results (http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=2395.msg66453#msg66453). Not going through that again.
Sorry, that post must have slipped my mind ;)
I went ahead and ordered 4 in section 106 in the corner. The Valpo fan section was nose bleed last year.
Quote from: agibson on February 01, 2016, 12:05:06 PMAt least parking appears to be a deal... just $5 for basketball games, allegedly. Not quite sure how that'll work (validation? can I leave the car there when I go to dinner?).
I believe there are some free parking spots in the UIC Pavilion garage. There are some close up ones that UIC sells to a few parking companies that maintain the garage but after they sell their spots the garage is open, I believe, for free parking. At least that is how it has worked out for me on previous visits to UIC.
FYI, the entrance ramps from Roosevelt and Taylor streets to northbound (West) I-94 Dan Ryan were closed this summer.
Quote from: historyman on February 01, 2016, 04:59:14 PM
Quote from: agibson on February 01, 2016, 12:05:06 PMAt least parking appears to be a deal... just $5 for basketball games, allegedly. Not quite sure how that'll work (validation? can I leave the car there when I go to dinner?).
I believe there are some free parking spots in the UIC Pavilion garage. There are some close up ones that UIC sells to a few parking companies that maintain the garage but after they sell their spots the garage is open, I believe, for free parking. At least that is how it has worked out for me on previous visits to UIC.
FYI, the entrance ramps from Roosevelt and Taylor streets to northbound (West) I-94 Dan Ryan were closed this summer.
The parking lot across from the Pavillion is only 5 bucks.
Quote from: StlVUFan on February 01, 2016, 10:15:26 PMThe parking lot across from the Pavillion is only 5 bucks.
For basketball games. Right, that's what I saw from their web page.
But, now I'm curious about the free one!
Here is the website for buying "game only" tickets for the Valpo at UIC game on 2/6/2016 from the VU Alumni Association:
http://alumni.valpo.edu/s/1347/index.aspx?sid=1347&gid=1&pgid=1647&content_id=1714
These tickets can be picked up at will call at the Pavilion.
[/size]You can also register and pay for the pre-game event at 1200 Harrison and the bus ride to UIC
[/size]http://alumni.valpo.edu/s/1347/index.aspx?sid=1347&gid=1&pgid=1647&crid=0&calpgid=906&calcid=2190
agibson, it does sound like I got lucky one year because I got there kind of late and the money-taking attendant at the Pavilion garage left for a personal reason.[/font]
Does anyone have an idea what a victory over UIC would do to our RPI? They currently have the 2nd worst RPI in college basketball (350 of 351).
Quote from: wh on February 02, 2016, 08:40:44 AM
Does anyone have an idea what a victory over UIC would do to our RPI? They currently have the 2nd worst RPI in college basketball (350 of 351).
We're going to lose some RPI points playing this game, hopefully it won't cost us too many slots.
Quote from: wh on February 02, 2016, 08:40:44 AM
Does anyone have an idea what a victory over UIC would do to our RPI? They currently have the 2nd worst RPI in college basketball (350 of 351).
We'll lose about 9 spots with the win.
Yeah, its disgusting.
Quote from: wh on February 02, 2016, 08:40:44 AM
Does anyone have an idea what a victory over UIC would do to our RPI? They currently have the 2nd worst RPI in college basketball (350 of 351).
Unfortunately, it is what it is. We have to keep winning these types of games by 25+. Won't help our RPI, but it may translate into some positive public perception. "Yes, our RPI has fallen because of an extremely weak bottom half of the HL, but look what we were able to do to those teams, even on the road."
If the game at UIC is close, it kills our RPI and our public perception.
But Bryce doesn't coach that way. Once a lead is safe, he takes the foot off the pedal and subs out the starters. In many games Alec only got PT in the mid 20s. That keeps the players happy and rested, but when all you see is the final score on the ESPN crawler and its Valpo by 19 (instead of by 25 or 30 as would have been the case if the starters were left in another 5 minutes) the casual observer is not that impressed.
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 02, 2016, 11:45:05 AM
But Bryce doesn't coach that way. Once a lead is safe, he takes the foot off the pedal and subs out the starters. In many games Alec only got PT in the mid 20s. That keeps the players happy and rested, but when all you see is the final score on the ESPN crawler and its Valpo by 19 (instead of by 25 or 30 as would have been the case if the starters were left in another 5 minutes) the casual observer is not that impressed.
Casual observers are deciphering a 19 point victory as not impressive from the ESPN crawler? Really? Plus that narrative isn't even reality. Every game the bench got emptied (games where Levinson-Simon played), Valpo has won by 25+.
Quote from: a3uge on February 02, 2016, 02:12:31 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 02, 2016, 11:45:05 AM
But Bryce doesn't coach that way. Once a lead is safe, he takes the foot off the pedal and subs out the starters. In many games Alec only got PT in the mid 20s. That keeps the players happy and rested, but when all you see is the final score on the ESPN crawler and its Valpo by 19 (instead of by 25 or 30 as would have been the case if the starters were left in another 5 minutes) the casual observer is not that impressed.
Casual observers are deciphering a 19 point victory as not impressive from the ESPN crawler? Really? Plus that narrative isn't even reality. Every game the bench got emptied (games where Levinson-Simon played), Valpo has won by 25+.
Plus, point margin should be considered in the context of the pace of the game. What's more impressive, winning 99-80 or 60-41 (hint: one of them is out-scoring your opponent by nearly 46%)?
A UIC guy here. If you want better seats call the UIC box office directly. They can tell you what's available closer to your area of choice. Sure the game isn't anywhere near a sell out. Ticketmaster gets a poor selection of seats to offer themselves which is what you see at their site. I think you could buy right from the box office over the phone and have seats held at will call and avoid Ticketmaster fees, too. See what your athletic office can do for you as well.......
Parking is $5 next door in multilevel lot or across the street in outdoor lot.
If you want to eat afterward without moving your car, from either lot, you can walk across the lot just south of the Pavillion to Tufano's Vernon Park Tap. Very good Italian food (know the owner) but accepts cash only....no credit cards. Will be open by 5, after the game.
We certainly have struggled this year and definitely deserve the disrespect that comes with our performance and RPI rating but are looking for fortunes to change soon..... There is danger, though, in looking past or over anyone on the schedule regardless of where we/you are. Been there/done that in a lot of sports at a lot of places.........
Safe travels to those visiting Saturday..................
In terms of percentage outscored here are the best wins and worst losses so far
| @ WRST | L | 73 | 62 | 18% |
| @ 25 ORE | L | 73 | 67 | 9% |
| @ BEL | L | 85 | 81 | 5% |
| @ BALL | L | 69 | 66 | 5% |
| vs MOST | W | 74 | 45 | 64% |
| vs UIC | W | 75 | 47 | 60% |
| @ NKU | W | 71 | 46 | 54% |
| vs CLEV | W | 77 | 52 | 48% |
| @ YSU | W | 96 | 65 | 48% |
| vs IONA | W | 83 | 58 | 43% |
| vs YSU | W | 97 | 68 | 43% |
| @ CHS | W | 71 | 53 | 34% |
| @ OAK | W | 84 | 67 | 25% |
| @ DET | W | 92 | 74 | 24% |
| vs IPFW | W | 78 | 64 | 22% |
| vs MILW | W | 68 | 56 | 21% |
| vs GB | W | 85 | 70 | 21% |
| @ ORST | W | 63 | 57 | 11% |
| @ INST | W | 69 | 63 | 10% |
| vs BEL | W | 61 | 57 | 7% |
| @ URI | W | 58 | 55 | 5% |
Quote from: axaguy on February 02, 2016, 02:42:24 PM
A UIC guy here. If you want better seats call the UIC box office directly. They can tell you what's available closer to your area of choice. Sure the game isn't anywhere near a sell out. Ticketmaster gets a poor selection of seats to offer themselves which is what you see at their site. I think you could buy right from the box office over the phone and have seats held at will call and avoid Ticketmaster fees, too. See what your athletic office can do for you as well.......
Parking is $5 next door in multilevel lot or across the street in outdoor lot.
If you want to eat afterward without moving your car, from either lot, you can walk across the lot just south of the Pavillion to Tufano's Vernon Park Tap. Very good Italian food (know the owner) but accepts cash only....no credit cards. Will be open by 5, after the game.
We certainly have struggled this year and definitely deserve the disrespect that comes with our performance and RPI rating but are looking for fortunes to change soon..... There is danger, though, in looking past or over anyone on the schedule regardless of where we/you are. Been there/done that in a lot of sports at a lot of places.........
Safe travels to those visiting Saturday..................
Thanks, axaguy. Have you ever heard of someone getting away without paying at the garage next to the Pavilion, as I did a few years ago? My son used to park in an alley every day just north of the Eisenhower off Racine and was never towed or never paid for parking. I guess parking luck just runs in the family. :)
I could see UIC with Odiase and Dixson making a nice run at the end of the season and in the tournament as the Flames did with Harris last year. Please knock out Oakland and Detroit in that order. ;)
Quote from: SanityLost17 on February 02, 2016, 08:55:29 AM
Unfortunately, it is what it is. We have to keep winning these types of games by 25+. Won't help our RPI, but it may translate into some positive public perception. "Yes, our RPI has fallen because of an extremely weak bottom half of the HL, but look what we were able to do to those teams, even on the road."
If the game at UIC is close, it kills our RPI and our public perception.
Quote from: a3uge on February 02, 2016, 02:12:31 PM
Casual observers are deciphering a 19 point victory as not impressive from the ESPN crawler? Really? Plus that narrative isn't even reality. Every game the bench got emptied (games where Levinson-Simon played), Valpo has won by 25+.
Really. Only piggybacking on SanityLost17's contention that, to in some way compensate for how the RPI will treat us because of the weakness of the lower half of the league, we need to ensure large victory margins for "public perception." My reference to casual observers does not include any on this board for sure, but who can deny that a 25-30 point margin is not perceived as more of a shellacking than a 19 pointer. Perception. That's why they mark down prices to $19.99
Quote from: Valpower on February 02, 2016, 02:28:53 PM
Plus, point margin should be considered in the context of the pace of the game. What's more impressive, winning 99-80 or 60-41 (hint: one of them is out-scoring your opponent by nearly 46%)?
Valpower, I totally agree on margin of victory percentage. But that was not my point either. My point is that if we left our starters in for virtually the whole game in cases where we were well ahead, we would jack up the margin percentage through the roof. Casual observers (outside of our little world) would note those blowouts (IMO) even more than a good old 19 point win. But we don't run up scores. That is not who we are. So the opportunity to play with people's heads is minimal but we can still feel good about our wins -- It just might not meet SanityLost17's hope for more 25+ point wins.
When the game is at hand... get our starters on the bench and out of harms way... Two Words: "Norfolk State" (1998-99 season, the 11/28 game...)
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 02, 2016, 04:45:28 PM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on February 02, 2016, 08:55:29 AM
Unfortunately, it is what it is. We have to keep winning these types of games by 25+. Won't help our RPI, but it may translate into some positive public perception. "Yes, our RPI has fallen because of an extremely weak bottom half of the HL, but look what we were able to do to those teams, even on the road."
If the game at UIC is close, it kills our RPI and our public perception.
Quote from: a3uge on February 02, 2016, 02:12:31 PM
Casual observers are deciphering a 19 point victory as not impressive from the ESPN crawler? Really? Plus that narrative isn't even reality. Every game the bench got emptied (games where Levinson-Simon played), Valpo has won by 25+.
Really. Only piggybacking on SanityLost17's contention that, to in some way compensate for how the RPI will treat us because of the weakness of the lower half of the league, we need to ensure large victory margins for "public perception." My reference to casual observers does not include any on this board for sure, but who can deny that a 25-30 point margin is not perceived as more of a shellacking than a 19 pointer. Perception. That's why they mark down prices to $19.99
Quote from: Valpower on February 02, 2016, 02:28:53 PM
Plus, point margin should be considered in the context of the pace of the game. What's more impressive, winning 99-80 or 60-41 (hint: one of them is out-scoring your opponent by nearly 46%)?
Valpower, I totally agree on margin of victory percentage. But that was not my point either. My point is that if we left our starters in for virtually the whole game in cases where we were well ahead, we would jack up the margin percentage through the roof. Casual observers (outside of our little world) would note those blowouts (IMO) even more than a good old 19 point win. But we don't run up scores. That is not who we are. So the opportunity to play with people's heads is minimal but we can still feel good about our wins -- It just might not meet SanityLost17's hope for more 25+ point wins.
But we literally won every game under this scenario by 25+ points.
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 02, 2016, 04:45:28 PM
Quote from: Valpower on February 02, 2016, 02:28:53 PM
Plus, point margin should be considered in the context of the pace of the game. What's more impressive, winning 99-80 or 60-41 (hint: one of them is out-scoring your opponent by nearly 46%)?
Valpower, I totally agree on margin of victory percentage. But that was not my point either. My point is that if we left our starters in for virtually the whole game in cases where we were well ahead, we would jack up the margin percentage through the roof. Casual observers (outside of our little world) would note those blowouts (IMO) even more than a good old 19 point win. But we don't run up scores. That is not who we are. So the opportunity to play with people's heads is minimal but we can still feel good about our wins -- It just might not meet SanityLost17's hope for more 25+ point wins.
That's why I said "plus". It was trying to add to the doubt that casual observers are deciphering a 19-point victory as not impressive.
Casual observers aren't seeding the tournament field.
Quote from: HC on February 02, 2016, 05:30:06 PM
Casual observers aren't seeding the tournament field.
Casual observers don't keep track of mid major's point differentials from game to game either. Apparently our fans don't either, considering the amount of times we've won by 25+.
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 02, 2016, 11:45:05 AMBut Bryce doesn't coach that way. Once a lead is safe, he takes the foot off the pedal and subs out the starters. In many games Alec only got PT in the mid 20s.
It's true. Bryce certainly has no obvious inclination to pad the box score. Hopefully it pays off in terms of a healthy team, a bench that stays sharp, etc. But, I'll confess to wondering if it's the right PR move.
A bit of consolation for me this year has been that the second string often enough manages to stretch the lead. And the third string often manages to at least hold on to it (and sometimes the opponents also empty their bench at the end).
Quote from: talksalot on February 02, 2016, 04:51:21 PMWhen the game is at hand... get our starters on the bench and out of harms way... Two Words: "Norfolk State" (1998-99 season, the 11/28 game...)
Yes but blink of the eye and couple seasons later Nuness was almost back to pre injury shape. ;) That has been a long time ago but was it a blowout game when it happened?
I know it's simplistic, but let's just look at margin based on when Peters gets taken out for the final time vs. the final score:
UIC - Subs out with 4:04 to go, leading by 27; final, win by 28
@Oakland - SPubs out with 45 seconds to go, leading by 20; final, win by 17 (Oakland hits 3 on final possession)
@Detroit - Subs out with 42 seconds to go, leading by 20; final, win by 18 (Detroit scores on final possession)
Milwaukee - In game at final whistle, win by 12
Green Bay - Subs out with 9 seconds to go, leading by 15; final, win by 15
@YSU - Subs out with 18:39 to go, leading by 27; final, win by 31
@NKU - Subs out with 3:26 to go, leading by 21; final, win by 25
CSU - Subs out with 5:00 to go, leading by 22; final, win by 25
YSU - Subs out with 10:02 to go, leading by 28; final, win by 29
All five times Peters has been taken out with significant time to play, the team has increased its lead by the end of the game.
Quote from: justducky on February 02, 2016, 09:38:40 PMThat has been a long time ago but was it a blowout game when it happened?
We were up 20 with about 3 minutes to play (Chef can correct me on that)... we won the game by 20.
Quote from: vusupporter on February 02, 2016, 09:48:16 PM
I know it's simplistic, but let's just look at margin based on when Peters gets taken out for the final time vs. the final score:
UIC - Subs out with 4:04 to go, leading by 27; final, win by 28
@Oakland - SPubs out with 45 seconds to go, leading by 20; final, win by 17 (Oakland hits 3 on final possession)
@Detroit - Subs out with 42 seconds to go, leading by 20; final, win by 18 (Detroit scores on final possession)
Milwaukee - In game at final whistle, win by 12
Green Bay - Subs out with 9 seconds to go, leading by 15; final, win by 15
@YSU - Subs out with 18:39 to go, leading by 27; final, win by 31
@NKU - Subs out with 3:26 to go, leading by 21; final, win by 25
CSU - Subs out with 5:00 to go, leading by 22; final, win by 25
YSU - Subs out with 10:02 to go, leading by 28; final, win by 29
All five times Peters has been taken out with significant time to play, the team has increased its lead by the end of the game.
Man, we really don't need that Peters guy.
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 02, 2016, 11:45:05 AM
But Bryce doesn't coach that way. Once a lead is safe, he takes the foot off the pedal and subs out the starters. In many games Alec only got PT in the mid 20s. That keeps the players happy and rested, but when all you see is the final score on the ESPN crawler and its Valpo by 19 (instead of by 25 or 30 as would have been the case if the starters were left in another 5 minutes) the casual observer is not that impressed.
Only I don't think point differential has suffered at all due to putting in any of our subs. Maybe 4 or 5 points at the most. It's just not true that Valpo has suffered due to the play of their bench.
EDIT: Okay, now I see that others have refuted this premise already.
Quote from: HC on February 02, 2016, 05:30:06 PM
Casual observers aren't seeding the tournament field.
What are casual observers and are there really many casual observers of any of the mid-majors and some of the majors who are lower on the high majors list?
Thanks, axaguy. Have you ever heard of someone getting away without paying at the garage next to the Pavilion, as I did a few years ago? My son used to park in an alley every day just north of the Eisenhower off Racine and was never towed or never paid for parking. I guess parking luck just runs in the family. :)
I could see UIC with Odiase and Dixson making a nice run at the end of the season and in the tournament as the Flames did with Harris last year. Please knock out Oakland and Detroit in that order. ;)
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Don't think you'll find free parking next door, today. The $5 isn't worth the hassle of trying to beat and risk a ticket or tow/impound. If parking free is a personal challenge you could cruise Racine Ave a bit south for on the street spaces or try the street just north of the expressway and last, the Target lot especially if you keep a Target bag on your front seat and don't mind a bit of a walk. Though impound lots are not inexpensive nor easily located or customer friendly places......for $5 avoidance. Good luck.....
On the game stuff maybe we can surprise even ourselves with another win or two or three before it's all over this year......
Quote from: bbtds on February 03, 2016, 02:08:10 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 02, 2016, 11:45:05 AM
But Bryce doesn't coach that way. Once a lead is safe, he takes the foot off the pedal and subs out the starters. In many games Alec only got PT in the mid 20s. That keeps the players happy and rested, but when all you see is the final score on the ESPN crawler and its Valpo by 19 (instead of by 25 or 30 as would have been the case if the starters were left in another 5 minutes) the casual observer is not that impressed.
Only I don't think point differential has suffered at all due to putting in any of our subs. Maybe 4 or 5 points at the most. It's just not true that Valpo has suffered due to the play of their bench.
EDIT: Okay, now I see that others have refuted this premise already.
Point differential suffered? Of course not, given how we play and how we are coached. Am I complaining? Absolutely not. I like and appreciate how Bryce uses his players. I personally would not change anything. But if we had a different coach who does everything he can to create a media star by playing him 36+ minutes every game and leaves the other starters in until the last minute or two, our current differentials would, in all probability, be even greater than they already are is all I'm saying. I'm glad we are not that kind of program.
I'm just going to appreciate the fact that we're arguing about how many points we should win a conference road game by. We won't get that luxury every year.
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 03, 2016, 07:20:54 AM
Quote from: bbtds on February 03, 2016, 02:08:10 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 02, 2016, 11:45:05 AM
But Bryce doesn't coach that way. Once a lead is safe, he takes the foot off the pedal and subs out the starters. In many games Alec only got PT in the mid 20s. That keeps the players happy and rested, but when all you see is the final score on the ESPN crawler and its Valpo by 19 (instead of by 25 or 30 as would have been the case if the starters were left in another 5 minutes) the casual observer is not that impressed.
Only I don't think point differential has suffered at all due to putting in any of our subs. Maybe 4 or 5 points at the most. It's just not true that Valpo has suffered due to the play of their bench.
EDIT: Okay, now I see that others have refuted this premise already.
Point differential suffered? Of course not, given how we play and how we are coached. Am I complaining? Absolutely not. I like and appreciate how Bryce uses his players. I personally would not change anything. But if we had a different coach who does everything he can to create a media star by playing him 36+ minutes every game and leaves the other starters in until the last minute or two, our current differentials would, in all probability, be even greater than they already are is all I'm saying. I'm glad we are not that kind of program.
I simply don't believe it's as much as a one point difference. We could start almost the whole bench up to Max and still win by the same margin.
Valpo 81
UIC 51
Quote from: bbtds on February 03, 2016, 09:02:47 AMI simply don't believe it's as much as a one point difference. We could start almost the whole bench up to Max and still win by the same margin.
I've not crunched the numbers. But there's _got_ to be a point per minute differential. Right? Surely for Alec, at least?
Some of these games it's the _end_ of the bench, and surely we could stretch a lead, if we wanted to, by keeping Alec in, rather than Levingston-Simon.
But, I'm definitely impressed that the end of our bench can hold a lead. And that the "second" squad can stretch one.
Quote from: axaguy on February 02, 2016, 02:42:24 PMIf you want to eat afterward without moving your car, from either lot, you can walk across the lot just south of the Pavillion to Tufano's Vernon Park Tap. Very good Italian food (know the owner) but accepts cash only....no credit cards. Will be open by 5, after the game.
Nice! I had no idea that's where Little Italy was.
But... looks like Tufano's is closed this week?
For future reference, despite the name, I assume it's a restaurant, not just a bar? Families are OK? (featured on Diner's Drive-Ins and Dives, even)
I was thinking maybe Chinatown... (anybody have a favorite? I've only dipped my toes in)
I prefer Greektown personally, and will probably hit up Parthenon while I'm up there.
Quote from: Kyle321n on February 03, 2016, 12:57:59 PM
I prefer Greektown personally, and will probably hit up Parthenon while I'm up there.
Yeah, definitely also crossed my mind. My wife won't be alone, and I figured she'd be sorer about missing Greektown (opa!).
Strange justification, admittedly. But, it may be that the kids and I would enjoy some dim sum more than she, while she might get more out of Greektown than we.
Nice! I had no idea that's where Little Italy was.
But... looks like Tufano's is closed this week?
For future reference, despite the name, I assume it's a restaurant, not just a bar? Families are OK? (featured on Diner's Drive-Ins and Dives, even)
I was thinking maybe Chinatown... (anybody have a favorite? I've only dipped my toes in)
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You are correct.....sorry. Point moot because they are closed but it is a restaurant and a family place but doesn't have a kiddie menu, though, that I recall. There are other good Italian restaurants on Taylor St from Morgan Ave to Polk St in the west campus area near the hospital. Taylor is a main street just south of the Pavilion. Cruise it and you can find sandwich shops to fine dining. Di Francesca's come to mind, on Taylor. Italian and family place. Not a China Town guy but if you don't mind a short ride head over to Navy Pier. Parking might be a bit steep but lots of places to eat and a "Chicago" thing to do if you haven't already. Just a thought..................
The Blue Line stop at Racine is 100 steps from the Pavilion door.... 8 minutes and you're in the loop.
The South Shore train leaves at 6:22pm...to head back to Dune Park...Plenty of time to grab a hot dog at Gold Coast !!
Quote from: axaguy on February 03, 2016, 01:30:43 PMDi Francesca's come to mind, on Taylor. Italian and family place.
Nice - will keep it in mind. No kiddy menu required, but I get slightly nervous when a place advertises itself as a bar/tavern. As a kid, growing up in Wisconsin, we ate in bars all the time. But, in Indiana sometimes they kick you out if you're under 21 (even if you're six!).
QuoteNot a China Town guy but if you don't mind a short ride head over to Navy Pier. Parking might be a bit steep but lots of places to eat and a "Chicago" thing to do if you haven't already. Just a thought..................
Should probably consider it sometime - I'm sure the kids would enjoy it. But, I'll admit it's not immediately attractive. Always seems very crowded, very touristy, etc. I guess they do have a children's museum, that alone would probably be worth checking out sometime.
We're more often the museum types. With some hanging around of Millennium Park/Maggy Daley park after, or a trip to a Rick Bayless place, or a stop by Chinatown or Pilsen, etc.
Thanks for the tips!
Quote from: talksalot on February 03, 2016, 01:55:15 PM
The Blue Line stop at Racine is 100 steps from the Pavilion door.... 8 minutes and you're in the loop.
The South Shore train leaves at 6:22pm...to head back to Dune Park...Plenty of time to grab a hot dog at Gold Coast !!
Here's the issue http://www.nictd.com/riding-the-train/schedules/westbound/saturday-sunday (http://www.nictd.com/riding-the-train/schedules/westbound/saturday-sunday)
Saturday trains into Millennium Station
Dune Park 9:49 a.m.>>>>Millennium Station 11:10 a.m.
Next train
Dune Park 1:15 p.m.>>>>Millennium Station 2:39 p.m.
That's cutting it awful tight to catch the Blue Line from Washington & Dearborn to the Eisenhower(I-290) & Racine. You walk west 3 blocks on Randolph to Dearborn and turn left (south) about 1/2 block to the Blue Line entrance on left side of Dearborn. As talksalot has explained it's only feet from the Blue Line Racine station to the UIC Pavilion door. You go in the opposite direction of the train up to the street and turn right on Racine. The Pavilion is catty corner from the northwest corner of Racine and the next street, Congress.
EDIT: When getting on the Blue Line go in the direction of
Forest Park.....NOT O'Hare
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8836076,-87.6275663,18.05z (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8836076,-87.6275663,18.05z) (see the Randolph St/South Shore Line station/Millennium Station and the Washington Blue Line Station on Dearborn)
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8754737,-87.6569639,147m/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8754737,-87.6569639,147m/data=)!3m1!1e3
It's $8 each way on South Shore (Dune Park to Millennium Station--you can pay with credit card in a machine at the Dune Park Station)
It's $3.00 for first ride ticket on CTA and they take credit cards now. Return ride is $2.25 if you buy them together for a total of $5.25. If you wait to buy individual cards they are each $3.00.
Get in at 11:10 am. Head over to the UIC area and grab a bite and a beer and watch some other college games. Show up at 2:30 to watch warm ups. Boom you're set.
Just want to clarify viewing options for Saturday's game. It will be televised on Comcast SportsNet Chicago and available on ESPN3, but will be blacked out on ESPN3 in the Chicago market (including Valparaiso) due to UIC's agreement with CSN Chicago.
Thanks Aaron!
I hit up the Parthenon last weekend while I was in Chicago visiting. Excellent food--I had the sampler platter. There's also a Greek bakery right near it called Artopolous I believe that was recommended to me but I didn't get a chance to check it out.
It's been years since I've been there, but the couple of times I've tried it I've definitely enjoyed Artopolis (bread city!). I've used it as a "stroll a couple blocks on your way to a dessert" kind of stop.
The South Shore fares and infrequent operations make $5 parking sound pretty good.
Valpo opens as 22.5 point favorites on the road.
All season, Vegas lines like this makes me wonder: Do people really bet on massive spreads like this in basketball?
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From the UIC board:
Poster #1
According to RealTime RPI (http://realtimerpi.com (http://realtimerpi.com)), ESPN, CBS and the NCAA RPI rankings, we are currently sitting at 350 out of 351. Only above Central Conneticut State.
No where to go BUT up!!!
Poster #2
Technically we can still go down haha but I like the optimism. We could actually drop to last since our next game is against Valpo. That win against CSU was awesome and I'm hoping we'll have a few more this year. I'm not pessimistic about this year anymore. We all understand what it is going to be this year, it's just fun to watch the young guys grow.
He may be the most loyal fan of any team anywhere. Probably a great guy, too.
According to Google maps you could walk in the door exactly at 3:00 p.m. if you take the bus instead of the Blue Line if you want to take the later South Shore train at 1:15 p.m. at Dune Park.
http://tinyurl.com/h7os2at (http://tinyurl.com/h7os2at)
BUS 60 at Michigan & Washington. 1 block south of Millennium Station on Michigan. It drops you at Racine & Harrison in front of the Pavilion.
Seems impossible that there are no seats available anywhere except in a corner. Found some on stub hub for 50 bucks each - are you kidding?
I guess I'll just get tickets at the door and then move during the game to one of the many empty seats
Go Valpo!
Quote from: HailVU2014 on February 05, 2016, 04:04:02 PMVegas lines like this makes me wonder: Do people really bet on massive spreads like this in basketball
Here's the Vegas Insider scoop on today's game
http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/matchups/valparaiso-@-illinois-chicago.cfm/date/02-06-16 (http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/matchups/valparaiso-@-illinois-chicago.cfm/date/02-06-16)
and since the odds change as people make and take bets.... here are the "Line Movements" from February 5th for the Valpo game...
http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/odds/las-vegas/line-movement/valparaiso-@-illinois-chicago.cfm/date/2-6-16 (http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/odds/las-vegas/line-movement/valparaiso-@-illinois-chicago.cfm/date/2-6-16)
Quote from: talksalot on February 06, 2016, 06:39:55 AM
Quote from: HailVU2014 on February 05, 2016, 04:04:02 PMVegas lines like this makes me wonder: Do people really bet on massive spreads like this in basketball
Here's the Vegas Insider scoop on today's game
http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/matchups/valparaiso-@-illinois-chicago.cfm/date/02-06-16 (http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/matchups/valparaiso-@-illinois-chicago.cfm/date/02-06-16)
and since the odds change as people make and take bets.... here are the "Line Movements" from February 5th for the Valpo game...
http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/odds/las-vegas/line-movement/valparaiso-@-illinois-chicago.cfm/date/2-6-16 (http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/odds/las-vegas/line-movement/valparaiso-@-illinois-chicago.cfm/date/2-6-16)
People bet on horses and what do you really know about them before you invest great sums on their speed?
Quote from: Smj on February 06, 2016, 06:20:23 AM
Seems impossible that there are no seats available anywhere except in a corner. Found some on stub hub for 50 bucks each - are you kidding?
I guess I'll just get tickets at the door and then move during the game to one of the many empty seats
Check earlier in the thread for comments from the UIC guy. They apparently only release a few sections to Ticketmaster. He thought the box office could sell you a full selection by phone/Will Call. Or, yes, I suspect there will be at least four or five thousand for walk-up sales.
Quote from: agibson on February 06, 2016, 09:42:45 AM
Quote from: Smj on February 06, 2016, 06:20:23 AM
Seems impossible that there are no seats available anywhere except in a corner. Found some on stub hub for 50 bucks each - are you kidding?
I guess I'll just get tickets at the door and then move during the game to one of the many empty seats
Check earlier in the thread for comments from the UIC guy. They apparently only release a few sections to Ticketmaster. He thought the box office could sell you a full selection by phone/Will Call. Or, yes, I suspect there will be at least four or five thousand for walk-up sales.
I tried the uic ticket office and they told me to go to ticket master. ...
Go Valpo!
OK - then this really does seem crazy.
Quote from: agibson on February 06, 2016, 09:50:21 AM
OK - then this really does seem crazy.
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Just looked at Ticketmaster and found 26 seats available. $25 each. If it really is a sellout I'll eat my hat.
Quote from: vu72 on February 06, 2016, 10:00:38 AM
Quote from: agibson on February 06, 2016, 09:50:21 AM
OK - then this really does seem crazy.
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Just looked at Ticketmaster and found 26 seats available. $25 each. If it really is a sellout I'll eat my hat.
They must be doing the old two step like Florida hockey teams do to Blackhawk fans so it's harder for Valpo fans to get in and spread out.
I assume smj didn't identify himself as a Valpo fan.
Near as I can tell Ticketmaster only ever had those three sections, lower deck, in the corner.
Do you have to go to the box office in person for decent service? Or maybe they only care about season ticket holders? Strange.
Pretty much crickets on the UIC message board. No game thread.
A white-out, apparently. Free long-sleeved shirts for first 1,000 (! I guess it is a big school...) students.
someone posted earlier that UIC has invited a bunch of grade-school kids to this game...
Now a subject I can embrace...Chicago Restaurants! Here's my recommendations -
Little Italy - Tufano's would me my choice. However, I see it's closed, so you can't beat the original Rosebud on Taylor.
Greektown: Nothing better than Greek Islands, although Roditys is close and they have free parking.
Chinatown: Triple Crown
Before the game, get a beef and Italian Ice at Carm's. Tell Steve I sent you there.
Quote from: chef on February 06, 2016, 11:21:25 AMNow a subject I can embrace...Chicago Restaurants! Here's my recommendations -
Oh, you don't bet on opponents' games?
Quote from: agibson on February 06, 2016, 10:33:36 AM
I assume smj didn't identify himself as a Valpo fan.
Near as I can tell Ticketmaster only ever had those three sections, lower deck, in the corner.
Do you have to go to the box office in person for decent service? Or maybe they only care about season ticket holders? Strange.
Not to be prejudiced but I could probably tell from a phone call who the Valpo fans are and who the UIC fans are. The Valpo fans are 9 out of 10 of the phone calls.
I've been to the UIC game several times. I can't imagine today being any different than the rest. Park in the adjacent parking garage ($5 - extremely reasonable by Chicago standards), walk a half block to the ticket window at the main entrance, ask for seats behind the Valpo bench, walk in and enjoy.
Looking at some of the games today... this is a national ranking table that might be fun to compare the before with the after...
here's the before:
AVERAGE MARGIN OF VICTORY
1. Louisville +19.1
2. Saint Mary's College +16.8
3. Michigan State +16.6
4. Indiana +16.5
5. Purdue +16.4
6. West Virginia +15.8
7. SMU +15.5
8. North Carolina +14.5
9. Villanova +14.5
10. Oklahoma +14.2
11. Arizona +14.0
12. Gonzaga +14.0
13. Duke +13.5
14. Valparaiso +13.4
15. Iowa +13.3
16. Wichita State +13.0
17. Connecticut +12.8
17. Kansas +12.8
19. Miami (FL) +12.6
20. Cincinnati +12.4
Quote from: talksalot on February 06, 2016, 02:23:00 PM
Looking at some of the games today... this is a national ranking table that might be fun to compare the before with the after...
here's the before:
AVERAGE MARGIN OF VICTORY
1. Louisville +19.1
2. Saint Mary's College +16.8
3. Michigan State +16.6
4. Indiana +16.5
5. Purdue +16.4
6. West Virginia +15.8
7. SMU +15.5
8. North Carolina +14.5
9. Villanova +14.5
10. Oklahoma +14.2
11. Arizona +14.0
12. Gonzaga +14.0
13. Duke +13.5
14. Valparaiso +13.4
15. Iowa +13.3
16. Wichita State +13.0
17. Connecticut +12.8
17. Kansas +12.8
19. Miami (FL) +12.6
20. Cincinnati +12.4
Wonder what the avg conference game winning margin is?
Valpo total conference points: 807
Opponent total conference points: 618
Averages: 80.70 61.80
Difference: 18.90
ESPN3 not working.
There we go.
The reffing is absolutely embarrassing in this game.
Lol @ UIC knocking the ball out off Hammink and then it's called off Valpo.
Boxing out is not a foul!!!
RPI only drops down to 40. I thought it might be worse than that.
MARGIN OF VICTORY... with a lot of games to go...
1. Louisville +19.1
2. Saint Mary's College +16.8
3. Michigan State +16.5 down from 16.6
4. Indiana +16.5
5. West Virginia +15.8
6. SMU +15.5
7. Purdue +15.3
8. North Carolina +14.5
9. Villanova +14.4 down from 14.5
10. Oklahoma +14.2
11. Arizona +14.0
12. Gonzaga +14.0
13. Valparaiso +13.6 up one spot, and from 13.4
14. Iowa +13.3
15. Duke +13.3 ... down 2 spots from 13.5
16. Wichita State +13.0
17. Connecticut +12.8
17. Kansas +12.8
19. Miami (FL) +12.6
20. Cincinnati +12.4
Defensive points per game:
1. Arkansas-Little Rock 58.4
2. Louisville 59.8
3. Virginia 60.1
4. San Diego State 60.1
5. Saint Mary's College 60.3
6. Villanova 61.0
7. Connecticut 61.2
8. Valparaiso 61.5
9. Wichita State 61.7
10. Old Dominion 61.8
I'll stick this tidbit in here... because it probably won't last very long...
Best winning % for D1 games:
1. Xavier 91.3%
2. Oklahoma 90.5%
2. SMU 90.5%
4. Arkansas-Little Rock 90.0%
5. Maryland 87.5%
6. Villanova 87.0%
7. Chattanooga 86.4%
7. North Carolina 86.4%
7. South Carolina 86.4%
10. Dayton 85.7%
11. Saint Mary's College 85.0%
12. Hawaii 83.3%
12. Michigan State 83.3%
14. Indiana 82.6%
14. Louisville 82.6%
14. Saint Joseph's 82.6%
14. Virginia 82.6%
18. Akron 81.8%
18. Grand Canyon 81.8%
18. Iowa 81.8%
18. Kansas 81.8%
18. Oregon 81.8%
18. UAB 81.8%
18. Valparaiso 81.8 :P :thumbsup:
18. West Virginia 81.8%
Box Score check for this game...
Vashil did get credit for 6 blocks in the official book
Rebounds:
Valpo 20 Offensive 28 defensive total 48
UIC 20 Offensive 21 defensive total 41
Assists:
Valpo 20 (on 28 baskets)
UIC 8 (on 19 baskets)
FT's
Valpo 10/17 58.8%
UIC 15 / 32: 46.9%
Turnovers
Valpo 11
UIC 11
Valpo
2 point Baskets 21/42 50%
3 point baskets 7/23 34.4%
Total Percentage: 43.1%
UIC
2 point Baskets 17/43 39.5%
3 Point Baskets 2 /15 13.3#
Total Percentage: 32.8%
:deadhorse:
So we start the day with a 32 RPI and a predicted end of season RPI of 29. So with our win at UIC and IPFW losing our RPI falls to 44. Fine! At least I can understand that flawed approach. :thumbsup: What I do not understand is our predicted RPI falling as well to #41. What in the cornbread hail ???
RPI / Shmarpi. How did we play? I thought we had a hard time responding to their beginning of the second half surge. I also thought we did not dominate in rebounding like we usually do. Dixon, good as he is, got too many opportunities. Comments?
We had three of our starters foul out and Vashiel ended the game with 4 fouls. ... I did not like the way the game was called by the refs. (Not the worst reffing I've seen - just not the best)
As for tickets - it is stupid that I got better tickets by waiting and buying at the window just before the game.
Great valpo turn out. .... almost as many valpo fans as uic fans
Go Valpo!
Valpo won by 18 and had 3 players foul out. That has to be some sort of record.
Quote from: talksalot on February 06, 2016, 06:30:32 PMFT's
Valpo 10/17 58.8%
UIC 15 / 32: 46.9%
Remember when teams realized that hitting free throws won games?
We definitely did not look as crisp as we have in other games. It is difficult not to play to your competition ...
I was looking forward to seeing the third string in this game but it didn't happen. ...
Go Valpo!
Watching a bit of the replay on ESPN3 - has their product actually gotten _worse_ over the years?
Some of the fault may be with the production crew - my stream starts a couple of minutes into the game. But, it seems to just break in with ESPN commercials at random moments, for long stretches. And jumps around in their own bar of location in the video. Not to mention the complete inability to use that bar to scroll through the video in any reliable way... What a disaster.
MLB's streaming product was better years ago. NBC Premier League Live Extra is better.
Quote from: agibson on February 06, 2016, 10:09:04 PM
Watching a bit of the replay on ESPN3 - has their product actually gotten _worse_ over the years?
Some of the fault may be with the production crew - my stream starts a couple of minutes into the game. But, it seems to just break in with ESPN commercials at random moments, for long stretches. And jumps around in their own bar of location in the video. Not to mention the complete inability to use that bar to scroll through the video in any reliable way... What a disaster.
MLB's streaming product was better years ago. NBC Premier League Live Extra is better.
It seems to get worse every week, although the seeking has NEVER worked. Froze several times. I did manage to vine one:
[tweet]696154981452242944[/tweet]
https://twitter.com/valpovines/status/696154981452242944
Quote from: Smj on February 06, 2016, 08:40:24 PMAs for tickets - it is stupid that I got better tickets by waiting and buying at the window just before the game.
It must be the old ticket two step. They really do think the schools might sell out their huge allotment. Or at least really hope for that.
Quote from: a3uge on February 06, 2016, 10:14:57 PM
Quote from: agibson on February 06, 2016, 10:09:04 PM
Watching a bit of the replay on ESPN3 - has their product actually gotten _worse_ over the years?
Some of the fault may be with the production crew - my stream starts a couple of minutes into the game. But, it seems to just break in with ESPN commercials at random moments, for long stretches. And jumps around in their own bar of location in the video. Not to mention the complete inability to use that bar to scroll through the video in any reliable way... What a disaster.
MLB's streaming product was better years ago. NBC Premier League Live Extra is better.
It seems to get worse every week, although the seeking has NEVER worked. Froze several times. I did manage to vine one:
[tweet]696154981452242944[/tweet]
https://twitter.com/valpovines/status/696154981452242944
It's one way to get payback without actually tripping the ref. ;)
Quote from: bbtds on February 06, 2016, 10:15:09 PM
Quote from: Smj on February 06, 2016, 08:40:24 PMAs for tickets - it is stupid that I got better tickets by waiting and buying at the window just before the game.
It must be the old ticket two step. They really do think the schools might sell out their huge allotment. Or at least really hope for that.
They *might* have been short on tickets. They had the entire upper area closed. They had four sections on the bottom closed, and portions of others (two closed for their beer area, two for another party deck - presumably the beer area people also had purchased seats elsewhere). Another two seemed likely devoted to students, not that they were full (there were hundreds of UIC students; but I don't think 1,000 - and these sections were pretty empty during the second half).
Kolawole picked up Freshman of the Week honors
QuoteKolawole collected his first Freshman of the Week nod after scoring a career-high 16 points versus Valparaiso on Saturday. The freshman guard connected on 5-of-11 shots from the field and 5-of-6 from the foul line and added three rebounds in the game. The Rowlett, Texas native only scored 25 points during the non-conference portion of UIC's schedule and played over 20 minutes in a game twice, but has seen his role increase as of late as he has now posted five double-digit scoring efforts during HL play and has played 30 or more minutes in UIC's last four games.
I was impressed by him, along with Dixson. Those two freshmen and Odiase (only a sophomore) could definitely be the kernel of something going forward...
The UIC post-game presser (edited) is at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2NKxVGGvGU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2NKxVGGvGU)
As my brother-in-law said, "This is great. He talks about valpo. The. whole. time."
He likes our at-large chances (thinks anybody who doesn't think we shouldn't at least be considered hasn't watched us play), and thinks it plausible we could compete in a power conference this season (OK - he's not sure about our depth... I'll accept that as due to not having checked carefully.)
Admittedly, he just lost big to us on his home court. But...
Quote from: agibson on February 08, 2016, 10:05:49 PM
The UIC post-game presser (edited) is at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2NKxVGGvGU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2NKxVGGvGU)
As my brother-in-law said, "This is great. He talks about valpo. The. whole. time."
He likes our at-large chances (thinks anybody who doesn't think we shouldn't at least be considered hasn't watched us play), and thinks it plausible we could compete in a power conference this season (OK - he's not sure about our depth... I'll accept that as due to not having checked carefully.)
Admittedly, he just lost big to us on his home court. But...
Might as well be a VU recruiting video!!
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2NKxVGGvGU#)