The Valparaiso Beacons Fan Zone Forum

As a kid, I loved keeping a scorebook at the games I went to...and I started keeping track of the star, Jim Ford, and his progress up the all-time ranks at that time.  Later on I kept diligent track of my friend Jeanette Gray as she "Bolened" the women's book.

So I thought it would be nice to have a thread dedicated to our favorite players as they crusade up the all-time charts.

Tonight, as of the Bethune-Cookman game:

--Ryan Broekhoff has passed the great Jim Ford for rebounds and now sits 11th all time with 644, just 3 behind the immortal Harry Bell and the top 10.  It is plausible that Ryan could end his career 3rd all-time, behind the underappreciated Chris Ensminger and all-timer Raitis Grafs.

--As for points, he's just 6 shy of hair-timer Urule Igbavboa and the top 20.  It's easy to see him ending up 6th, just ahead of seminal figure Bruce Lindner but behind Grafs and the Top 5--although, after tonight's 30 points on 11 shots, anyone care to bet against him going higher? 

--In 3-pointers, in the first 5 games he shot (pun intended) from 7th to 3rd!  He now has 182.  He could pass the criminally-underrated Lubos Barton (244) for 2nd by averaging 2 per game the rest of the season, but he will never catch his coach.

--He's moved into 7th in blocks; notched his 101st steal tonight (might crack top 10). Could make top 20 for assists.

--On the heels of his 11 for 11 night from the line, let's take a moment to appreciate:  he's 29-30 on the year, or 96.7%, Rob Cavanaugh territory!  Last year was his previous best, but he didn't even crack 80% then...

...As for his cohorts, not as much to say, but:

--The indefatigable Erik Buggs is 2 behind Mr. Cavanaugh for 9th on the assist list; he very well could end up 4th all time.  I mean, it's early to assume he'll play all the games to get there, but would anyone care to imagine something keeping that man out of a game?  Thus,

--It would only be fitting, but if we play a couple postseason games, Erik will hit the previously unfathomable number of 140 games, 7 more than current record-holder Howard Little.  For the record, he's 2 games played ahead of Ryan. 

--On the subject of improved fundamentals, he has gone from 43% FT freshman to 33% soph to 52% junior to 75% FT (12-16) so far!  Way to be.  And he should get credit for one of those misses, since if he doesn't, we lose that game.

--Matt Kenney has passed Fort-Wayne's-Finest, Ron Howard, for 17th on the all-time assist mark.  He has an outside shot pass at knocking the immortal Tracy Gipson and still-out-of-eligibility-unfortunately Brandon MacPherson out of the top ten (!).  He's 7 GP behind Buggs (5 behind Ryan).

(Any help and thoughts would be appreciated on this!)

I don't think Lubos is underrated at all.  He was a plain stud for us in many ways!  My favorite player, right up there with Raitis.  If Lubos didn't get hurt during the NBA camp with Cleveland, he would have made a roster.  He has been a stud in the top European leagues, and has been the best player on the Czech national team since college, even above Jiri Welsch who was playing in the NBA several years ago.

tex, that's your takeaway from everything above? :/

look, i don't want to hijack my own thread, but i feel he's always forgotten about when people talk about the greats.  Like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar--an amazing player, but when was the last time you heard him put forth as a candidate for the Best Ever?

I think Lubos is underrated because people always expected more from him--it was an awkward era for the team in the shadow of '98, and sometimes awkward for him in the shadow of Grafs or Stovall at times, even.  Etc., etc.

But back to the all-time greats!  Not all-time grates.

Love the post, looking forward to updates after each game!
Buggs is shooting free throws real well and looks comfortable doing it. I'd much rather see him toe the line then Kenney or Vashil or Capo

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on November 24, 2012, 10:03:34 PM
tex, that's your takeaway from everything above? :/

look, i don't want to hijack my own thread, but i feel he's always forgotten about when people talk about the greats.  Like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar--an amazing player, but when was the last time you heard him put forth as a candidate for the Best Ever?

I think Lubos is underrated because people always expected more from him--it was an awkward era for the team in the shadow of '98, and sometimes awkward for him in the shadow of Grafs or Stovall at times, even.  Etc., etc.

But back to the all-time greats!  Not all-time grates.

Since I like seeing where current players are record-wise versus past players, I didn't feel I needed to comment on anything in that area since it was already listed.  I am glad someone is keeping up with some of these stats as the season progresses, but still felt the need to mention that there is at least one person who thought Lubos was a great player for us against any past player  :)

Like valpotx, Lubos was the first player with a name at Valpo that I really got attached to. I didn't get to see Bryce play, so I didn't get to see one of the greats, but I saw Lubos, who is up there, or at least the shooting guard on the 2nd team, as one of the Greatest Valparaiso Crusaders of All-Time.

Thanks for the good info.  Lubos gave the program a much needed lift, especially after most of the '98 team graduated.  He was a team player, not necessarily looking for his shot or points. 

I will always remember the night of the draft just after Lubos graduated that Quinn Snyder, then coach at Mizzou, was one of the commentators. He was asked which player he was most surprised by his not getting drafted and he instantly said Lubos Barton of Valparaiso.

Quote from: covufan on November 26, 2012, 12:02:26 PMLubos gave the program a much needed lift, especially after most of the '98 team graduated.  He was a team player, not necessarily looking for his shot or points.

And I think that's part of why he is underrated.  He played that European style (i.e. not seeking to be on SportsCenter) and many people--myself included--wanted to give him the Vince Vaughn peptalk from Swingers--the one about the bunny and you've got the claws... Not a "fill-the-stat-sheet" guy, though he accumulated quite a few before he was done, but a subtler style...more ninja when people wanted a BEAR with BIG CLAWS to just TEAR THE BUNNY APART.  He could, but it wasn't his style, any more than being Vince Vaughn was Jon Favreau's style.

Lubos BEARTON.  (warning:  I counted at least 7 f-bombs in the embedded: )

You're Like a Big Bear - Swingers (6/12) Movie CLIP (1996) HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feeIOZH7wr4#ws)

Here's the tie in with Valpo football. In the movie "Rudy" Vince Vaughn played ND 3rd string-prep squad quarterback Jamie O'Hara.

And both suck!

Hey Did You Know That Vince Vaughn Was In Rudy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itBo0lXqAbc#)

Thought this link may be helpful when referencing records.  Since we were throwing out talk of Rowdy's first half against BCU, it does look like BWood holds the D-1 record of 39 against Georgia Southern.

http://www.valpoathletics.com/media/basketball-men/Media%20Guide%20Info/Record%20Book.pdf (http://www.valpoathletics.com/media/basketball-men/Media%20Guide%20Info/Record%20Book.pdf)

Along with those mentioned, it seems like there a number of other categories where we have at least a half-reasonable chance of capping off career-marks this year.

Broekhoff has a shot at top-20 assists, top-10 steals, top-10 for 3P%, maybe top-10 FT's, maybe top-10 FT% (you don't have to crack 80%, in fact - Gipson's 10th at 78.8%).

Kenney's got a shot at top-10 steals, and, would you believe, top-10 blocks?

Buggs has a fair shot at top-10 steals.

Van Wijk actually has a chance at top-10 FT's made, in only three years.

It's very early, of course, but it's not too hard to imagine Ferandez in the top-10 list for blocks.

Oh, and if he stopped today, Will Bogan would finish 7th on the career 3PT% chart - at 41.4%.  He has to keep making them, of course.

This was always a feature I loved in the game notes.  Is it absent entirely this year?

If Antti can be 6th in blocks with his limited minutes over his career (around 10/game), I am sure Vashil will finish much higher up.  The blocks category seems like the most wide open, as we have only had really 3-4 prolific shot blockers to play long enough to get a decent amount.  I doubt Raitis' number will ever be touched, but second and third are up for grabs if we get someone good at positioning and timing.

Quote from: agibson on November 28, 2012, 02:35:20 PMBroekhoff has a shot at top-20 assists, top-10 steals, top-10 for 3P%, maybe top-10 FT's, maybe top-10 FT% (you don't have to crack 80%, in fact - Gipson's 10th at 78.8%).

oh gibson ;)

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on November 24, 2012, 09:44:35 PM--He's moved into 7th in blocks; notched his 101st steal tonight (might crack top 10). Could make top 20 for assists.

Saw Lubos play against UNC-Charlotte some years ago at Charlotte. We came back from a half time deficit to WIN the game. Ratis was terrific,Lubos,so so. I always thought Lubos was over rated,but he was the " beast from the least" (Mid-Con.) When Lubos faced good competition he all but disappeared (Prince of KY., in the first round of the NCAA's,completely shut Lubos down). Hell, IMO,Lubos would never have made it in the NBA. Never!

Ah!  Sorry, clearly working too fast.

Quote from: setshot on November 29, 2012, 11:56:19 AMWhen Lubos faced good competition he all but disappeared (Prince of KY., in the first round of the NCAA's,completely shut Lubos down).

Tayshaun is an NBA champion, a gold-medal Olympian, 4-time All-Defensive 2nd team, etc.  He shuts everybody down.

Ask Kobe.

Weekly update, though with heavier heart this week, obv:

Broekhoff
Points:  now #20!
17.  Lance "the face mask" Barker 1,196
18. Scott "the knee brace" Anselm 1,195
19. Vern Curtis 1,190
20. RB 1,186

Rebounds: now #10!
9.  Daryl Ashby 662
10.  RB 651

3-pointers:
2. Lubos Barton 244
3. RB 183

Blocked Shots:
6.  Antti Nikkila 84
7.  RB 76

Steals:
10. Tracy Gipson 138
RB 104

FT%, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 80.2%

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att):
RB 93.8%
1. Casey Schmidt 93/94, 92.6%

Buggs; Kenney
Assists: EB now #9!
8. Jamie Sykes 359
9. EB 331
...
16. Greg Tonagel 280
17. MK 253
...
20.  Mike Jones 217
RB 180

[EXCURSUS:  I swear they used to keep track of fouls--anyone else remember?  Jim Stueve was rackin' 'em up in the '80s, if I remember correctly.  Today was Buggs' TWENTIETH foul-out of his career; he has 319 fouls for his career, roughly 2.87 a game, or 4.79/40!!!.  Definitely the shortest guy on the list...if anyone knows where VU/SID is keeping it these days...]

Bogan
3-pt %, career:
8. Mike Jones 40.9%
9.  WB 40.8%

Your, or somebody's, rebounding numbers aren't quite right.

Rebounds: now #10!
9.  Daryl Ashby 662
10.  RB 751

Rowdy is up nearly 90 on 9th place according to this.

What makes more sense to you: that he grabbed 107 rebounds in the past week, or I hit a 7 when it's next to a 6?

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 02, 2012, 10:08:03 PM
What makes more sense to you: that he grabbed 107 rebounds in the past week, or I hit a 7 when it's next to a 6?

definitely that he had 107 boards last week. :)

dude.  i wish.

then you could lift my arms and I'd go WHOOSHIN' into space.

Broekhoff
Points:  now #17!
16.  Daryl Ashby 1,247
17. RB 1,231

Rebounds: now #8!
8.  Jeff Simmons 681
9.  RB 667

3-pointers:
2. Lubos Barton 244
3. RB 192

Blocked Shots:
6.  Antti Nikkila 84
7.  RB 76

Steals:
10. Tracy Gipson 138
RB 108

FT%, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 230/286 80.4%

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att):
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
   RB 36 for 39 92.3%

Buggs; Kenney
Assists:
8. Jamie Sykes 359
9. EB 340
...
16. Greg Tonagel 280
17. MK 257
...
20.  Mike Jones 217
RB 186

Bogan
3-pt %, career:
8. Mike Jones 40.9%
9.  WB 73/180 40.6%

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 02, 2012, 08:30:46 PM[EXCURSUS:  I swear they used to keep track of fouls--anyone else remember?  Jim Stueve was rackin' 'em up in the '80s, if I remember correctly.  Today was Buggs' TWENTIETH foul-out of his career; he has 319 fouls for his career, roughly 2.87 a game, or 4.79/40!!!.  Definitely the shortest guy on the list...if anyone knows where VU/SID is keeping it these days...]

Surely Stueve averaged near 4 fouls per game, at least in the years I remember!  He had to be over 5 per 40 minutes!

Thru Purdue {region goes here} 12/22

Broekhoff
Points:  now #16!
15.  Chuck Kriston 1,287
16. RB 1,273

Rebounds: now #8!
7.  John Wolfenberg 702
8.  RB 695

3-pointers:
2. Lubos Barton 244
3. RB 199

Blocked Shots:
6.  Antti Nikkila 84
7.  RB 80

Steals:
10. Tracy Gipson 138
RB 111

FT%, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 239/295 81.0%

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att):
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
RB 45 for 48 93.8%

Buggs; Kenney
Assists:
8. Jamie Sykes 359
9. EB 350
...
16. Greg Tonagel 280
17. MK 270
...
20.  Mike Jones 217
RB 194

Bogan whoops...
3-pt %, career:
8. Mike Jones 40.9%
10. Brandon McPherson 40.7%
11.  WB 78/193 40.4% needs to make his next one to get back to top 10

EDIT:  I will give some outlooky-type thoughts after the MSU game before conference season!  I said-a V, A, LPO.

Thru the SIGNATURE ROAD WIN, aka the NonCon (minus the bracketbuster) 12/29

Broekhoff
Points:  now #15!
14.  Milo Stovall 1,345
15.  RB 1,291

At his current rate of 16.7 ppg he could score another 300 points, leaving him #6 all-time, ahead of Bruce Lindner but behind Raitis.  2 more postseason games at average would move him ahead of Raitis into #5, but only a ridiculous post-season run (3 post-conference tourney wins) on both his and the team's part would boost him past Lubos.  Then again...

Rebounds: now #8!
5.  Urule Igbavboa 706
6.  Joaquin Gomes 704
7.  RB 703

Rowdy's next game should boost him into 5th place.  At his current rate of 7.8 rpg, he could grab another 141, leaving him just 3 ahead of Raitis for #2 all-time (844 to 841).  Chris Ensminger is pretty much off limits at #1 with 910.

3-pointers:
2. Lubos Barton 244
3. RB 202

With 2.5 3s/game, Rowdy could hit another 45 (and boy, would we like him to).  He needs 43 to end up 2nd.  Bryce is in another dimension with 364.  So.

Blocked Shots:
6.  Antti Nikkila 84
7.  RB 80

Just as Ryan is as tall as they get on the assist list, he is almost as short as they get on the blocks list.  Only Harry Bell (6'4") is shorter; if Ryan continues at his current rate of just over half a block per game, he could get 10 more and end up tied with Morris Smith at #5 with 90.  Five more would put him in front of the legendary Harry Bell, which is about as good as he could hope for.

BONUS HARRY BELL ARCHIVE ARTICLE (NO NOT THE ONE ABOUT HIM GETTING KICKED OFF THE TEAM JUNIOR YEAR)
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19901223&slug=1110936 (http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19901223&slug=1110936)

Steals:
10. Tracy Gipson 138
RB 112

At his current rate of 1.3 spg, Ryan could snag another 24 and still end up just 2 outside of the top 10.  2 more postseason games at average would vault him there.

FT%, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 242/299 80.9%
8.  Dennis Olson 80.0

At his current rate of 80.9%, Ryan would end up just where he is, because that's what rates are.  Duh.  But averaging four trips to the line, he should get another 56 attempts, and at his current seasonal rate, would end up 294/355, lifting his career average to 82.8%, or 5th all time, behind Bryce but ahead of David Redmon.  It's the Valpo Free Throw, mate!

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att):
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
RB 48 for 52 92.3%

With 23 more FTs, Ryan's season for the ages becomes eligible for this award.  Of course, he has to do just slightly better than he is right now. 52/56 (as above) would make him 100/108, or 92.6%; we do not have Schmidt's season to 4 sig figs, though, so who knows.

Buggs; Kenney
Assists:
8. Jamie Sykes 359
9. EB 352
...
16. Greg Tonagel 280
17. MK 274
...
20.  Mike Jones 217
RB 194

At his current rate of 3.71 apg, Erik could end up with 67 more assists, making him #4 all time.  He needs 54 more to reach that spot, or 3 per guaranteed game; in the post-Dority era, however, he is only averaging 2.4 apg.

At his current rate of 3.1 apg, Matt could end up with 55 more assists, leaving him tied with Rob Cavanaugh for #9 all-time.  It would be extremely difficult to pass anyone else (Jamie Sykes is 30 ahead of that), but in the post-Dority era, he is averaging 3.4 apg (4.0 last 4).

At his current rate of 1.64 apg, Ryan could end up with 30 more assists, leaving him #20 with 224 and knocking Mike Jones out of the top 20.  8 more would leave him solidly 18th.  More impressive is that he is the only player to spend significant time at the 4 on the list—the only other frontcourt player is also-6' 7" Lubos Barton (t6th).

Bogan whoops
3-pt %, career:
8. Mike Jones 40.9%
10. Brandon McPherson 40.7%
11.  WB 78/194 40.2%

Will Bogan gots to get on his horse and knock down his next two just to get back in the top ten. In the post-Dority era, however, he is only averaging 14.4 mpg (although 18.3 in the last 3 since recovering from his illness), compared with his season-long 23.8 mpg avg.

I really like this tread, thanks for keeping it going!

Nice update!  Thanks for doing it.

I didn't check all of the others on the watch list (RB for top-10 FT's, rather than "just" FT%, Kenney and Buggs for steals, Kenney for blocks, KVW for top-10 FT's).  But, I do notice that RB's ahead of Bogan for 3PT%.  199/490 = 40.6%.  Hitting the next would plausibly tie him with BMac.  Hitting two in a row would move him into 10th on his own.

Thanks for the kind words, brothers.  And thanks for catching that on Rowdy.  I'll have to add him to that watch list--EXCEPT that what you have listed are pre-MSU stats, SO:
--Ryan is now 202/496, or 40.7%, or more or less tied with B-Mac for 10th place all-time! HUZZAH!

I checked the other things of which you speak, but, barring several statistical anomalies,
--RB will end up about 30 shy of the top 10 in FTs.
--actually, KVW, who I had thought unable to reach in FTs: if he continues going to the line at his current rate (and making them at this season's higher rate), could end up with 328 FTs, or tied for 7.  (Cut-off is 324 FTs!)
--Kenney is not a threat in blocks; although he had a great year last year he has only two this season, giving him 49.  Even at last year's rate for the rest of the season he wouldn't get there.  Although--he is playing more minutes...
--Nor is he a threat in steals (he's behind Rowdy in both total and rate, and Rowdy isn't going to make the top 10 at his current rate)
--Buggs, though, has 119 and at his current rate could grab another 22, leaving him with 141 and just ahead of Tracey Gipson for #10 all-time!  I'll have to add him to the watch list too.

Thanks for catching those!

I should also have noted that these projections are based on only 18 games:  Conf + bracketbuster + the one postseason game we're guaranteed, so that you need not worry that I'm guessing we play 20-odd more games.  Of course, it also assumes no injuries.

It should also be noted that playing these 18 more games for everyone involved will leave:
--Kenney tied for fourth with 129
--Ryan in third with 132 (sitting out P-Cal cost him Howard Little's 133, but another postseason game or four should take care of that), and
--Buggs, with 136, takes the Greg Tonagel Tenure Award and the top spot.

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 29, 2012, 08:08:50 PMBONUS HARRY BELL ARCHIVE ARTICLE (NO NOT THE ONE ABOUT HIM GETTING KICKED OFF THE TEAM JUNIOR YEAR)
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19901223&slug=1110936 (http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19901223&slug=1110936)

Thanks for the article and thanks for the thread - it is nice to see these players climb up the record books.

How many years did Harry play overseas? 

Quote from: HC on December 29, 2012, 08:32:22 PM
I really like this tread, thanks for keeping it going!

Said the customer to the Tire Dealer.

Thru L-----a 1/2/13

Points: 
14.  Milo Stovall 1,345
15.  RB 1,306

Rebounds: from 8 to #5!
4.  Lubos Barton 753
5.  RB 710

3-pointers:
2. Lubos Barton 244
3. RB 205

Blocked Shots:
6.  Antti Nikkila 84
7.  RB 80

Steals:
10. Tracy Gipson 138
EB 121
RB 112

Free throws made, career
10.  Milo Stovall 324
KVW 250

FT%, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 242/299 80.9%

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att):
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
RB 48 for 52 92.3%

Assists:
8. Jamie Sykes 359
9. EB 353
...
16. Greg Tonagel 280
17. MK 276
...
20.  Mike Jones 217
RB 198

3-pt %, career: RB now #8!
7.  Casey Schmidt 41.0%
8.  RB 205/501 40.92%
9. Mike Jones 175/428 40.88%
10. Brandon McPherson 40.7%
WB 78/197 39.5%

Let me add a couple of "Macro" record book items...

Since inception, VU has played 2,373 games.   Through the Loyola debacle, we have scored a total of 149,944 points.  So we are 56 shy of the 150,000 mark.  In those games, our opponents have scored 148,222 we have outscored our opponents by 1,722 points, an average of .7257 points per game.  If you really care about this stuff, we have an overall record of 1227 - 1146, 51.7%

Since turning to D-1 in 1977, we are 525-529... which shows you just how horrible things were in the 80's.  In those games our opponents have outscored us by a total of 288 points (73,783 to 73,495).  Nit Pickers:  Yes, I have the Purdue forfeit in here as if it were a "real game".  ok, back to your regularly scheduled RB update.

Those are definitely very cool stats.  Nice to know that we will have our first chance to go above 0.500 in D-1 this year all-time, unless we were above 0.500 sometime soon after moving divisions.

I hope that we reach 150,000 in the midst of a victorious evening tomorrow.

Thanks for the stats!

Thru CSU (like a hot knife through melted butter) 1/4/13

Points: 
14.  Milo Stovall 1,345
15.  RB 1,316

Rebounds:
4.  Lubos Barton 753
5.  RB 722

3-pointers:
2. Lubos Barton 244
3. RB 206

Blocked Shots:
6.  Antti Nikkila 84
7.  RB 80

Steals:
10. Tracy Gipson 138
EB 125
RB 112

FT%, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 245/302 81.1%

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att):
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
RB 51 for 55 92.7%

Assists:
8. Jamie Sykes 359
9. EB 356
...
16. Greg Tonagel 280
17. MK 279
...
20.  Mike Jones 217
RB 200

Free throws made, career
10.  Milo Stovall 324
KVW 252

3-pt %, career:   RB now #9...
7.  Casey Schmidt 41.0%
8. Mike Jones 175/428 40.88%
9.  RB 206/504 40.87%
10. Brandon McPherson 40.7%
WB 81/201 40.3%

And of course, big shout out to ROWDY for getting POINT 150 K!  #point150k should have been a twitter thing.  oh well.  i don't do the twitters.

anyone know who got points 1, 50K, and 100K?  that would be great to know...

Quote from: humbleopinion on January 03, 2013, 06:22:45 PMI hope that we reach 150,000 in the midst of a victorious evening tomorrow. Thanks for the stats!

It kind of struck me as being funny that any program would have the public address announcer announce that their program had scored a certain amount of points, during a game. The fact that Ryan Broekhoff scored the 150,000 point in the history of Valpo basketball was kind of cool. I wonder how many fans will remember who scored the 150,000th point when the 200,000th point in the history of Valpo basketball is scored several years from now.

OK... one footnote, asterisk, the 150,000 includes the actual final score of the 1994-5 Purdue game that they wound up forfeiting due to using an ineligible player.  Talking to the ESPN stat's guy, he said that "most" of the time, a forfeit will only be reflected in the W-L record of the team, and that all individual stats (player points, rebounds, etc) are retained. 

OH, Trust Me.   That would NOT have been announced if it we weren't up by 23 points late in the game.  I have a direct "no distraction" rule I have to follow.  Notice no HL scores are announced when the team is on the floor.  Scores are only given during halftime and pre-game.  Player stats are only given when it is obvious they are coming out of the game for the last time.  If a player hits the 1,000 point mark, I have to get permission to go with it in advance... again, unless its a blowout in our favor.

I thought it was a great fun - and thanks for the sneak preview here!

Quote from: historyman on January 05, 2013, 10:16:37 AM

The fact that Ryan Broekhoff scored the 150,000 point in the history of Valpo basketball was kind of cool. I wonder how many fans will remember who scored the 150,000th point when the 200,000th point in the history of Valpo basketball is scored several years from now.

I will remember the play: Ryan got that 150,000th point putting back the layup missed by Matt when he got hit hard in the ribs and no foul was called. Matt was lying on the floor under the basket then doubled over on his way up court yelling at the official while everyone was cheering the milestone, and Bryce grabbed Matt pulling him away from the direction of the official toward the bench. Matt was in pain the rest of the game.

In fact, the trainer's room will be busy today with players getting attention: Matt for his ribs, Erik for the ankle he twisted stepping on his own player's foot, Jordan for the arm he fell on when he was hit hard and slammed the court, Ben for his turf toe, and others for assorted bumps and bruises. Welcome to the physical play of the Horizon League! 

OK a number of you have asked...(and lot more of you did not)...but here goes.

I don't have the play-by-play to pinpoint the player... but if someone has the old record books and cares enough to go through it...

The 100,000th point was scored November 24, 1990 in Boise Idaho in game 2 of their tournament against Eastern Washington.  We lost the game 77-66, but the 100,000 point was the 45th point scored in that game.

The 50,000th point was scored February 6, 1965 in Hilltop Gym in an 80-74 win over Butler.  the 44th point in that game would be #50,000.

Point #1 was scored in 1917, against Chicago "sometime before December 14th, when the second game was played".  We lost our opener 45-20.

And the answer to the question of whether we have ever been above .500 since turning to D-1 in 1977:... no.  We started that year with 5 straight losses to (home) Western Michigan, @Illinois State, @Notre Dame, @Northwestern and @ Missouri.  We then won the Crusader Classic, and our first D-1 win as a D-1 program was against Navy 62-60 in Hilltop on December 29, 1977.

In the first 10 years in D-1 we were a symmetrical 90-180.

Yes, we've come a long way...

My father played football/basketball/baseball at St. Olaf, and has a program from when he played in the Crusader Classic at Hilltop against Valpo and some other schools (I believe Luther College was another).  I'll have to find it to see what year it was, but it would have been early 1970s. 

I look forward to being over 0.500 for the first time as a D-1 program by end of year!!

Quote from: valpotx on January 07, 2013, 02:16:42 AM
My father played football/basketball/baseball at St. Olaf, and has a program from when he played in the Crusader Classic at Hilltop against Valpo and some other schools (I believe Luther College was another).  I'll have to find it to see what year it was, but it would have been early 1970s.

Before the Crusader Classic was a bowling tournament it was a basketball tournament between Lutheran schools held in Hilltop Gym every year. Some of the colleges invited were St Olaf, Luther, Carthage(WI), Augustana(SD), Augustana(IL), Wartburg, Wittenberg, Pacific Lutheran, Gustavus Adolphus, Augsburg, etc. In 1977 near the end of the time Valpo hosted the Crusader Classic they played Carthage College and the game went to double OT before the Crusaders pulled it out. The pressure was really on the Crusaders because Valpo had never lost a Crusader Classic basketball game. The final score was 94-87. When Valpo decided to switch to Div.I they ended the Crusader Classic and were undefeated in that tournament.

I actually talked to Mark and Homer about this some time ago. My point was that in Lutheran terms, the Crusader Classic made it clear that there was Valpo, and everybody else. Now, given the fact that we play non-D1 exhibition games, why not replace those games with the CC?  In the case of Wagner (the only other Lutheran school playing D1) you pick up a D1 game as well.  You now understand how much influence I have!  :o

If it had a better RPI impact, we could have a Crusader Classic series with Holy Cross of the Patriot League. It would be a home-at-home competition for the "Best Crusader". The winner of the yearly classic would come home with a Shield of Glory to engrave the win into, have a nice history lesson out of that.

I'd prefer calling that the "(Counter-)Reformation Classic".

BTW, some schools are scrapping the Crusader as a mascot due to PC -- all the death and mayhem associated with the crusades (we won't get into 9/11, OK)

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/04/texas-university-scraps-crusader-mascot.html (http://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/04/texas-university-scraps-crusader-mascot.html)

http://www.wnd.com/2006/02/34928/ (http://www.wnd.com/2006/02/34928/)

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2009/05/quincy_christia.html (http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2009/05/quincy_christia.html)

So, the Counter Reformation Classic is getting my vote.

.....and a BBTW, if you are gonna do a faceless mascot, I like this guy (in the attachment, but with a color change) better. However, saying that, and with a nod to the Mascot string, the new Valpo Crusader has a lot pictures out there (as does the previous guy).

That's just sad.  Every now and then some VU students get all huffy about the "Crusader".

They could bill it as the "Reformation Classic" when played at VU and call it the "Counter-Reformation Classic" at Holy Cross.

Hey, I remember a few years ago we played the Capital (ELCA) University from Bexley, Ohio... those purple Crusaders... 4 months later, my daughter enrolled there...

Thru latest HL road win 1/9/13

Points: 
14.  Milo Stovall 1,345
15.  RB 1,337

Rebounds:
4.  Lubos Barton 753
5.  RB 732

3-pointers:
2. Lubos Barton 244
3. RB 209

Blocked Shots:
6.  Antti Nikkila 84
7.  RB 80
Rowdy hasn't blocked a shot since IUPUI.  Needs to throw hisself a block party

Steals:
10. Tracy Gipson 138
EB 126
RB 112

FT%, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 249/307 81.1%

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att):
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
RB 55 for 60 91.7%

Assists: MK now #16!
8. Jamie Sykes 359
9. EB 358
...
15. Tim Hostetler 284
16. MK 282
...
20.  Mike Jones 217
RB 201

Free throws made, career
10.  Milo Stovall 324
KVW 260

3-pt %, career:   RB now #8 again!
7.  Casey Schmidt 41.0%
8.  RB 209/510 40.98%
9. Mike Jones 175/428 40.88%
10. Brandon McPherson 40.7%
WB 81/206 39.3%

More Macro Fun... on a Micro Level.

Valpo in the HL.   This is our 6th season.  We've played 93 Regular Season games.... 52-41 record in those games.  We are 31-16 at home and 21-25 on the road.

We have scored 6,251 points, opponents have scored 6,177 points, a difference of 74 total points.

OK now for the eerie number:  1,209
That is the exact number of points scored in the 2007-08 Horlzon League Regular Season Games by VU
That is the exact number of points scored in the 2007-08 Horlzon League Regular Season Games by VU Opponents
That is the exact number of points scored in the 2009-10 Horizon League Regular Season Games by VU Opponents

the D-1 Record is now 527-529... UWM, UDM and then Wright State to go over the .500 mark.

I like these stats you are coming up with.  Good to see that we have proven a lot of the naysayers incorrect when some thought we would not be able to compete in this league.  We have shown from the start that we could go toe-to-toe with anyone in the HL, barring the one season where two key cogs (Bouchie and Haanpaa) left without much notice.

Ryan had a block in the UIC game - it was obvious but missed in the stats....

(I will just know the official number is one short.)

Their official scorer probably went to HS with Harry Bell back in the day ;)

Maybe we should check to see if there is any connection between the stats person and any of these players.....

Raitis Grafs
Zoran Viskovic
Joaquim Gomes
Harry Bell
Morris Smith
Antti Nikkila

When a stat is obviously missed in a game can a player or someone else do anything to have it reviewed?

Thru latest HL road win 1/12/13

Points:  RB now #14!
13.  Mike Jones 1,378
14.  RB 1,363

Rebounds:
4.  Lubos Barton 753
5.  RB 742

3-pointers:
2. Lubos Barton 244
3. RB 216

Blocked Shots:
6.  Antti Nikkila 84
7.  RB 83

Steals:
10. Tracy Gipson 138
EB 129
RB 112

FT%, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 250/309 80.9%

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att):
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
RB 56 for 62 90.3%

Assists: EB UP 3, now #6!  MK now #15!
5. Todd Smith 368
6. EB 362
...
14. Jared Nuness 290
15. MK 285
...
20.  Mike Jones 217
RB 205

Free throws made, career
10.  Milo Stovall 324
KVW 260

3-pt %, career:   RB now #7!
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 42.3%
7.  RB 216/519 41.62%
8.  Casey Schmidt 41.0%
9. Mike Jones 40.88%
10. Brandon McPherson 158/388 40.72%
WB 83/212 39.1%
If his average keeps dropping, he's gonna drop off the list...

Ryan's percentage may well come down, but, at the moment, he's 47/100 from 3PT range on the season.  That would be good for #5 all time - better than any of Bryce's season.

good point.  please keep on me about season statistics...mostly been fixated on career because those are easier to see coming, but this is the time of year where we can start to look at the season ones...

Thru THE COMEBACK 1/17/13

Points:  RB now #13!
12.  Jeff Simmons 1,395
13.  RB 1,381

Rebounds:
4.  Lubos Barton 753
5.  RB 751

3-pointers:
2. Lubos Barton 244
3. RB 218

Blocked Shots: RB now #6!
5.  Morris Smith 90
6.  RB 85

Steals:
10. Tracy Gipson 138
EB 131
RB 115

FT%, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 258/317 81.3%

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att):
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
RB 64 for 70 91.4%

Assists: EB now #5!  MK now #15!
t5. Todd Smith 368
t5. EB 368
...
14. Jared Nuness 290
15. MK 289
...
20.  Mike Jones 217
RB 210

Free throws made, career
10.  Milo Stovall 324
KVW 265

3-pt %, career:   RB now #7!
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 42.3%
7.  RB 218/522 41.76%
8.  Casey Schmidt 41.0%
9. Mike Jones 40.88%
10. Brandon McPherson 158/388 40.72%
WB 84/215 39.0%
If his average keeps dropping, he's gonna drop off the list...

3-pt%, season
4. Casey Schmidt 92-93 47.7%
5. RB 49/103 47.57%

Games, career
T7.  A bunch of good dudes   124
EB 123
RB 119
MK 116

"Grafs became the youngest Latvian National Team member. Unfortunately, during four years at Valparaiso University (NCAA), Grafs did not improve his skills much and so far his first three seasons after returning to Europe have been less than impressive."  This comes from wiki 

So fix it!

Quote from: oklahomamick on January 18, 2013, 02:32:31 PM
"Grafs became the youngest Latvian National Team member. Unfortunately, during four years at Valparaiso University (NCAA), Grafs did not improve his skills much and so far his first three seasons after returning to Europe have been less than impressive."  This comes from wiki 

You have to read that whole paragraph. It is purely an assessment of Raitis by one man. It's also poorly written and extremely subjective.

More than 20 years ago now in kindergarten, a tall boy named Raitis met a smaller one named Kristaps and they became fast friends.[citation needed] Since then, the two (Raitis Grafs and Kristaps Valters) have grown to be best friends and teammates on the Latvia national basketball team. As a teenager, Grafs was regarded as one of the best prospects in Europe averaging 13.8 points and 10.5 rebounds at the 1998 U18 European Championship. He posted similar numbers (11.9 ppg and11.0 rpg) at the 1999 World Junior Championship during which he was voted a First Team All-Star. At 16 years 5 months, Grafs became the youngest Latvian National Team member. Unfortunately, during four years at Valparaiso University (NCAA), Grafs did not improve his skills much and so far his first three seasons after returning to Europe have been less than impressive. This year, as he returned to his hometown club ASK Riga, he performed well (10.1 ppg and 5.6 rpg in Baltic league). Grafs is not athletic enough to become a star but he can be a solid back-up center and give his team a good 10–15 minutes per game.

You can rewrite that wikipedia paragraph on Raitis yourself by clicking on the [edit] button next to the paragraph.

By following the references in the wikipedia article on Grafs I found this picture and the teams he has played for since he left Valpo. For a 31 year old Raitis is looking rather young. I guess he always did look younger than his age.

During his career, Graf played in Riga "Broceni", Valparaiso University (NCAA), Ostende 'Telindus' (Belgium) Wroclaw "Slaski" (Poland), BK "Ventspils" ASK Riga, "Šiauliai" (Lithuania), Riga VEF, "Nitra" (Slovakia) and Limassol "Apollon" (Cyprus).

http://sportacentrs.com/basketbols/legionari/09082012-grafs_speles_igaunija (http://sportacentrs.com/basketbols/legionari/09082012-grafs_speles_igaunija)

(http://i6.tiesraides.lv/800x0s/pictures/2012-03-27/2012-03-27_img_lrytas_lt.jpg)

Just a reminder for those who lost too many brain cells last night...drinking to forget the first half and drinking to celebrate the second half... anyway... a few tidbits

Our D-1 Record:   529 wins and 529 losses.  We have never been above 500 since we began as a D-1 Program in 1977... our opponents have still out-scored us, 74,043 to 73,809 (diff:  -234)

Before last night, we were holding our opponents to under 60 points per game.   We have not done that for a full season since 1948-49!  If we can hold Wright State to 46 points or fewer, we will once again be below the 60PPG defense point.

Last night we picked up our 6th Road win of the year.  Going back to the opening of the ARC, we have never won more than 9 Road games in a single season, and we did that once.... 97-98 we went 9-3 on the road.  We have 5 more road games on the regular season schedule.

Since the ARC opened, we have played 382 (70.2% W) games at home, 383 (36.3% W) games on the road and 107 (57% W) neutral sites.

and perhaps the most fun little statistic... The Wright State game will be our 20th game of the year.... going back to 1984, we are 19-7 in the 20th game of the year, including an astounding 12-3 at home.

see y'all tomorrow... bring a friend!

Awesome, our first chance in 36 years to be above 0.500 as a program!  We can then say that we are a winning program overall  :)

Blast from the past... Chris Ensminger... still playing ... and starring... in Germany

http://www.eurobasket.com/player.asp?Cntry=GER&PlayerID=19279&AmNotSure=1#Player%20Stats (http://www.eurobasket.com/player.asp?Cntry=GER&PlayerID=19279&AmNotSure=1#Player%20Stats)

VERY impressive stat line; played in Euro Challenge Cup on the 15th, 10 pts, 7 rebs in 15 minutes... he was born in 1973...not bad for a 40-Year old!... I still remember his 24-rebound game from '96

How about a weight training workout video with 40 year old Chris Ensminger which includes his brother, Mike.

"ENSE" Chris Ensminger Basketball Training at The Workout at Covington ASAP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-im1SCndvAI#)

Thru THE COMEBACK ^(Mini-Jr.) 1/19/13  um whoops i accidentally wrote over the previous post instead of starting a new one.  i blame billy donlon, who blamed the refs, who blamed our androgynous mascot, who was unavailable for comment since S/HE DON'T HAVE A FACE

Points:  RB now #12!
11.  John Wolfenberg 1,430
12.  RB 1,399

Rebounds: RB now #4!
3.  Dan Oppland 782
4.  RB 761

3-pointers:
2. Lubos Barton 244
3. RB 221

Blocked Shots:
5.  Morris Smith 90
6.  RB 85

Steals:
10. Tracy Gipson 138
EB 133
RB 115

FT%, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 263/323 81.4%

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att):
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
2.  RB 64 for 70 90.8%

Assists: EB now #5! (alone)! MK up 2 to #13!! 
4. Jared Loyd 405
5. EB 370
...
13. Milo Stovall 295
t13. MK 295
...
20.  Mike Jones 217
RB 214

Free throws made, career
10.  Milo Stovall 324
KVW 271

3-pt %, career:   
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 42.3%
7.  RB 221/529 41.78%
8.  Casey Schmidt 41.0%
9. Mike Jones 40.88%
10. Brandon McPherson 158/388 40.72%
WB 87/221 39.3%...but seriously dude those ones you hit tonight were YOOGE kthx

3-pt%, season
4. Casey Schmidt 92-93 47.7%
5. RB 52/110 47.27%

Games, career:  EB now #7![/u]
T7.  EB & a bunch of good dudes   124  (Barton-Berdiel-Gomes-Stovall-Sykes)
RB 120
MK 117

For those not at the game, we recognized the 1972-73 Team as winners of the conference championship (to the NCAA college division, win over Capital's Crusaders in round 1)... one of the guys on that time....  John Wolfenberg, who is the next person Rowdy passes on the career points list.  and a big thanks to the Vu Archives staff for getting all of those great shots of action from Hilltop.

Quote from: talksalot on January 19, 2013, 10:18:30 PM
For those not at the game, we recognized the 1972-73 Team as winners of the conference championship (to the NCAA college division, win over Capital's Crusaders in round 1)... one of the guys on that time....  John Wolfenberg, who is the next person Rowdy passes on the career points list.  and a big thanks to the Vu Archives staff for getting all of those great shots of action from Hilltop.

I was a classmate of John's and I'm sure  Bruce was recognized as well.  A great team!

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on January 19, 2013, 09:56:16 PMThru THE COMEBACK (Mini-Jr.) 1/19/13  um whoops i accidentally wrote over the previous post instead of starting a new one.  i blame billy donlon, who blamed the refs, who blamed our androgynous mascot, who was unavailable for comment since S/HE DON'T HAVE A FACE

I'm confused.  You overwrote the _title_ of the previous post, and made this one, but did you update any of the numbers?  At least some of them look like the numbers after the Detroit game.

Maybe it's still a post in progress?

(Yeah, I guess some of them are up to date... but at least Rowdy's single season FT's are the numbers from after Detroit?  He now has the 75 min required for the record book.)

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on January 19, 2013, 09:56:16 PMwho was unavailable for comment since S/HE DON'T HAVE A FACE

Well, let's face it (him/her). That's it. Just get it a face.

And here's another single season record in progress.

I suppose he's been in the top ten for a while.  But, after tonight, I think KVW's 93 for 148 field goal attempts on the season.  Passing... last year's version of himself for #3 on the all-time chart.  Just a tenth behind Zoran Viskovic.

Quote from: agibson on January 19, 2013, 10:25:34 PMI'm confused.  You overwrote the _title_ of the previous post

I overwrote everything.  Sorry.

I'll go back and repost a saved version.  Mea maxima culpa.

Quote from: talksalot on January 19, 2013, 10:18:30 PM
For those not at the game, we recognized the 1972-73 Team as winners of the conference championship (to the NCAA college division, win over Capital's Crusaders in round 1)... one of the guys on that time....  John Wolfenberg, who is the next person Rowdy passes on the career points list.  and a big thanks to the Vu Archives staff for getting all of those great shots of action from Hilltop.

Back during the 1972-73 season the PA announcer was a guy named Kenneth Korby. He was a bald guy with a thick black mustache. He had a voice like Norman Nagel (the dean of the chapel) but without the Australian accent. He was also part of the theology department at Valpo. Kenneth was pretty straight forward in his PA announcing. When he announced the line-ups and gave the scoring plays and fouls there was no inflection in his voice he just announced everything plainly so everyone could understand him. After all he was a member of Valpo's theology department and that was a serious time for theology in the Lutheran Church.

I remember the game that clinched the conference for Valpo. It was actually a tie for first in the ICC (probably with Evansville) but Valpo had won the bid to the NCAA "college division" tournament by the tie-breaker method. At the end of the game when the conference champion was announced as Valpo, Kenneth Korby started using inflection in his voice and whooping it up. This was a huge deal for Valpo. They announced that John Wolfenberg had won some conference award for points scored or something like that and Kenneth Korby let out the best "JOHN WWWWOOOOLF-ENNNN-BUUUUURG!! I had ever heard up till that time.

Of course now John Bowker is much better at it but remember that was a serious time at Valpo.   ;)

I did find kind of a biograhy of Kenneth Korby and some mentions of his writings on the internet:

http://www.ctsfw.edu/document.doc?id=281 (http://www.ctsfw.edu/document.doc?id=281)

A number of individuals could be cited as contributing to this renewed interest in Loehe
and his influence in the LCMS within the last three decades, but none is more significant
or substantial than Kenneth F. Korby (1924-2006).  Korby graduated from Concordia
Seminary, St. Louis in 1945 and after pastorates in Minnesota and Oregon, he was called
to the department of theology at Valparaiso University in 1958 where he would serve
until 1980. While at Valparaiso, Korby earned a Masters in Sacred Theology from Yale
and in 1976 he obtained a doctorate from Concordia Seminary in Exile for a thesis
entitled The Theology of Pastoral Care in Wilhelm Loehe With Special Attention to the
Function of the Liturgy and the Laity[10]. In 1980, Korby left Valparaiso to serve as
pastor of Chatham Fields Lutheran Church, an African American parish on the south side
of Chicago. Retiring in 1987 and moving to St. Paul, Minnesota, Korby would serve as
vacancy pastor of Zion Lutheran Church until he completely retired from pastoral
ministry and moved to Port Angeles , Washington in 1997. Until he suffered a
debilitating stroke in 2001,

Kenneth Korby died in 2006.

Quote from: vu72 on January 19, 2013, 10:21:53 PM

Quote from: talksalot on January 19, 2013, 10:18:30 PM
For those not at the game, we recognized the 1972-73 Team as winners of the conference championship (to the NCAA college division, win over Capital's Crusaders in round 1)... one of the guys on that time....  John Wolfenberg, who is the next person Rowdy passes on the career points list.  and a big thanks to the Vu Archives staff for getting all of those great shots of action from Hilltop.

I was a classmate of John's and I'm sure  Bruce was recognized as well.  A great team!

My photo of the players from the 72-73 team being recognized at halftime:

(http://i50.tinypic.com/34qn1ih.jpg)

Also tonight, Van Wijk surpassed the minimum 500 field goal attempts for the career FG% chart and is tops in Crusader history at 60.3% (305-506).

Quote from: valpopal on January 20, 2013, 12:15:50 AMMy photo of the players from the 72-73 team being recognized at halftime:

Do you know which basketball alum from the 1972-73 team is which?

My guess is that John Wolfenburg is the furthest on the left and Tom Haeberle is the 4th from the left (2nd from right).  Wally Schultz always wore thick black glasses (in the days before contact lenses were common) so I'm guessing Wally is 2nd from the left. I'm just not sure about who the other two are. Is one of them Paul Fredlake?

Thanks so much for the picture!

EDIT: Just found something on the internet that names the whole 1972-73 team:

http://www.fanbase.com/Valparaiso-Crusaders-Mens-Basketball-1972-73 (http://www.fanbase.com/Valparaiso-Crusaders-Mens-Basketball-1972-73)

Paul Fredlake
Thomas Haeberle
Thomas Hoerl
Jeff Holmes
Dale Lesicki
Milt McGee
Tom Mueller
Joel Oberman
Mark Peters
Wally Schultz
John Semmelhack
John Wolfenberg

It should have been pretty easy to pick out John as he is/was about 6'11"  None of them look firmiliar to me!  ;)

I'm not sure which is which... but the 5 names I read last night:

John Wolfenberg
Thomas Haeberle
Thomas Hoerl
Dale Lesicki
Thomas Mueller

Might ask John Mutka of the post-Trib, he covered that team !!  They pre-date my coming to Vu by about 12 months.

Quote from: talksalot on January 20, 2013, 09:40:47 AM
I'm not sure which is which... but the 5 names I read last night:

John Wolfenberg
Thomas Haeberle
Thomas Hoerl
Dale Lesicki
Thomas Mueller

Might ask John Mutka of the post-Trib, he covered that team !!  They pre-date my coming to Vu by about 12 months.

I remember Coach Purden never called anyone on that team by their first name because there were 3 Toms and 2 Johns. How interesting that all 3 Toms showed up.

I believe going left to right on the photo they are : John Wolfenberg, Dale Lesicki, Tom Hoerl, Tom Haeberle and Tom Mueller.

Interesting, as my dad remembers playing against some of those guys in the Crusader Classic when he was at St. Olaf.  He definitely remembers Wolfenberg apparently

Yes, that was one of the Valpo basketball teams that never lost a Crusader Classic game.

Thru We're Officially On a Roll of Rolls 1/23/13  Mascot Still Faceless Et Al.

Points:
11.  John Wolfenberg 1,430
12.  RB 1,418

Rebounds:
3.  Dan Oppland 782
4.  RB 770

3-pointers:
2. Lubos Barton 244
3. RB 222

Blocked Shots:
5.  Morris Smith 90
6.  RB 87

Steals: EB now #10! (although Porter prosecutors pondering 6 charges of grand theft basketball after tonight...)
10. EB 139
11. Tracy Gipson 138
RB 115

FT%, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 280/342 81.9%

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att): 
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
2.  RB 83 for 91 91.7%

Assists: MK now #12! 
4. Jared Loyd 405
5. EB 375
...
t10. Gipson / MacPherson 316
12. MK 298
...
20.  Mike Jones 217
RB 215

Free throws made, career:  RB with his monster game now vaulted into the conversation...!
10.  Milo Stovall 324
RB 277
KVW 275

3-pt %, career:   
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 42.3%
7.  RB 222/534 41.57%
8.  Casey Schmidt 41.0%
9. Mike Jones 40.88%
10. Brandon McPherson 158/388 40.72%
WB 88/224 39.3%

3-pt%, season RB down to #6
6. Scott Anselm 86-87  46.1%
6. RB 53/115 46.08%

Games, career:  EB now #t6!
T6.  EB & Antti 125
T7.  a bunch of good dudes 124  (Barton-Berdiel-Gomes-Stovall-Sykes)
RB 121
MK 118

We are approximately two-thirds of the way through the regular season (21 games to go, 10 more games scheduled), and though the way we are playing we are going to play far more than the one post-season game we are promised, it'd be interested to see what we might do on the season all-times.  Everything, thus figured for 11 games more:

At his current rate, Rowdy would get 533 points for the year; all-time Vern Curtis (66-67) and B-Wood (9-10) are #10 with 565. He'd still be ahead of his last year self (508).

At his current rate, Rowdy would grab 263 boards for the year; that would tie him with Urule (7-8 model) for 9th all time, but still more than a bit behind his last year self (290).

No one is threatening in assists, but after his amazing night Buggs has gone from not threatening the top 10 list to projecting for 56 steals for the year--which would be tied for 5th with Stalin Ortiz (2-3)...two more would leave him alone in 3rd all time.

No one is threatening in field goals or blocks, but Rowdy's 3-pters are on pace for 84, which would be 6th all-time and ahead of Bryce Drew!  (That's freshman Bryce, but not soph, jr, or sr.)

Even after his monster night, Rowdy's on pace for 130 FTs, and #10 is 133.  KVW is on for 132.

Guess we'll just have to go deep into it!  But who would have thought that (in terms of totals only; aside from percentages) the most exceptional season we're having is Buggy with steals!

Dan Oppland holds the mark for most combined points and rebounds with 2562. Ryan Broekhoff currently has 2188. He has been averaging close to 30 a game of late. If Valpo gets the 14 games that appear likely, then Broekhoff could very well pass Oppland in his last game in a Valpo uniform.

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on January 23, 2013, 09:56:31 PMFree throws made, career:  RB with his monster game now vaulted into the conversation...!
10.  Milo Stovall 324
RB 277
KVW 275

Indeed!

They're at just about the same rate on the season, and might both make it.  Of course, a bit of a post-reason run would help, as would picking up the pace slightly.  More games like last night would, naturally, let Ryan do it double time (triple time?).

Hopefully LaPorte doesn't mind me tossing in an update.  I couldn't handle the suspense!

Through the Feb 1 recovery against Milwaukee.

Points: (Rowdy to #10!)
9.  David Redmon 1,470
10.  RB 1,439

Rebounds: (Rowdy to #3!)
2. Raitis Grafs 841
3. RB 785

3-pointers:
2. Lubos Barton 244
3. RB 226

Blocked Shots:
5. Morris Smith 90
6. RB 87

Steals: (Buggs to #9!)
9. Raitis Grafs 142
9. EB 142
RB 119

FT%, career:
6. Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7. RB 283/347 81.6%

FT%, Single Season (Ryan drops back to #4)
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
2.  Dick Jones 89.7%
     Casey Schmidt '92/93, 89.7%
4. RB 86 for 96 89.6%

Assists (Rowdy to #20!)
4. Jared Loyd 405
5. EB 379
...
t10. Gipson / MacPherson 316
12. MK 298
...
19. Jake Diebler 239
20.  Mike Jones 217
20. RB 217

Free throws made, career:
10.  Milo Stovall 324
KVW 282
RB 280

3-pt %, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 42.3%
7. RB 226/548 41.24%
8.  Casey Schmidt 41.0%
9. Mike Jones 40.88%
10. Brandon McPherson 158/388 40.72%
WB 92/233 39.48%

3-pt%, season (RB out of the top 10)
10. Seth Colclasure 45.2%
RB 57/129 44.2%

Games, career: (EB to #4!)
4. Raitis Grafs 127
4. EB 127
T7.  a bunch of good dudes 124  (Barton-Berdiel-Gomes-Stovall-Sykes)
RB 123
MK 119

FG%, career: (KVW to #1!)
1. KVW 315/525 60.0%
2. Zoran Viskovic 59.5%

FG%, season: (KVW to #4!)
2. Zoran Viskovic, '97/98, 62.9%
3. KVW, '11/12, 153/248, 61.69%
4. KVW, 103/167, 61.68%
5. Zoran Viskovic, '98/99, 60.8%

Wow, it looks like Rowdy will be able to catch Raitis in rebounds and Lubos in 3s.  Very impressive!

Can you imagine how long it's going to take on Senior Day to read all of those accomplishments...??? Can't Wait!  Tuesday, 2/26... Youngstown would be the last regular season home game...

After this year you will have a 4 year break while we wait for this new big class of incoming freshmen to graduate.

The future.  ???

Rowdy:  I love this kid.  What a great person and what a talented player (Koala, you've got to be proud).  It would be nice to leverage Rowdy's experience here into making Valpo THE place for young Aussies to come to develop their international BB skills.  I've known a few Aussies through business relationships and they are just like him -- smiles start even before hello.  Once he graduates we will miss him deeply.  Let's get another one like him!  (er... impossible.  Maybe kinda similar.)

At the women's game today he took time out and was signing a few autographs and stopped and took a picture with my son.  Great player, even better person! Well done koala!

Thank you so much we are very proud of him as he is a wonderful young man and oh so nice.   We will all miss Valpo so much as it has been such a fantastic place for him to grow as a person and a player, all credit to him and everyone at Valpo.   We arrive soon so we are looking forward to seeing everyone and watching Ryan and the team play live.   You will know who we are, we will be the ones with the big smiles  ;D   

Quote from: talksalot on February 02, 2013, 01:31:23 PM
Can you imagine how long it's going to take on Senior Day to read all of those accomplishments... ??? Can't Wait!  Tuesday, 2/26... Youngstown would be the last regular season home game...

Just for fun, I went to the old ValpoFans message board and looked at threads of discussion about Ryan and Kevin when word first leaked out that they might be coming to Valpo, since they were so unknown compared to local recruits. I wasn't a member then, but I do recognize some of the contributors to the conversations.

The thread of speculation on Kevin began in June 2010 and lasted through the summer with folks finding pictures of him on Facebook and trying to guess about his age (at 21), height, or experience, wondering if he'd really be able to get cleared to play in the US. When he was spotted on campus at the bookstore before being cleared, more speculation about his height and weight occurred. There were some comments wondering if he would be another Benjamin Fumey, Paul Guede, or Beas Hamga. The day Kevin was cleared to play, Paul Oren interviewed Kevin and had a perceptive piece that declared he seemed different from others he'd interviewed: "He could be a starter, he might be a Milosevic or Halvorsen. There was just something about his confidence and sense of being on Wednesday that struck me as a player who is ready to contribute...and a player who is ready to work."

The initial thread of speculation on Ryan was even more interesting, especially since he was so young. When a video surfaced, there was a question about the low release of his shot. When he was seen on campus, he was thought to be smaller and very skinny. Koala got on the board and promised to fatten up her son and strength coach Brooks would build Rowdy's muscles. There was even a poll on the board: "Broekhoff: Will He Be a Stinker or a Stud." For the record, there were 10 votes cast, 7 said he would be a "star," 2 said he'd be "average," and 1 said he would be a "stinker." (Anyone want to confess to that last vote?)

As their senior year winds down, I think we can all agree we've been fortunate to have both of them at Valpo, on and off the court.

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e94/hanksta400/323f3839-5d61-46d3-985d-03e0d994399a_zps3fd6cd2e.jpg)

Came out blurry, but we didn't want to take up more of his time. I about had to lay on the floor to get them both in the photo.

Quote from: valpopal on February 03, 2013, 01:14:20 AMThere was even a poll on the board: "Broekhoff: Will He Be a Stinker or a Stud."

I forgot all about that one!  "Low release point" I remember quite well.

So do I  :o

Quote from: agibson on February 03, 2013, 07:59:51 AM

Quote from: valpopal on February 03, 2013, 01:14:20 AMThere was even a poll on the board: "Broekhoff: Will He Be a Stinker or a Stud."

I forgot all about that one!  "Low release point" I remember quite well.

I certainly was a  part of those debates, but then again, I so promise in Chris Halverson!  ;)

Through the Feb 5 UIC game, with the starters playing limited minutes, again.  It didn't stop Broekhoff from going 6-9 from behind the arc.  But, it dead mean that KVW didn't take a shot.

Matt Kenney apparently became only the second crusader, after Lubos Barton, to cross the 400 rebound/300 assist level.  I'm not sure we're setup to look for other such milestones.

Points:
8 Harry Bell 1,508
9.  David Redmon 1,470
10.  RB 1,461

Rebounds:
2. Raitis Grafs 841
3. RB 791

3-pointers:
2. Lubos Barton 244
3. RB 232

Blocked Shots:
4. Harry Bell 94
5. Morris Smith 90
6. RB 89

Steals:
7. Jamie Sykes 150
8. Howard Little 145
9. Raitis Grafs 142
9. EB 142
RB 119

FT%, career:
6. Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7. RB 283/347 81.6%

FT%, Single Season
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
2.  Dick Jones 89.7%
     Casey Schmidt '92/93, 89.7%
4. RB 86 for 96 89.6%

Assists (Rowdy to sole possession of #20!)
4. Jared Loyd 405
5. EB 383
...
t10. Gipson / MacPherson 316
12. MK 303
...
19. Jake Diebler 239
20. RB 218

Free throws made, career:
10.  Milo Stovall 324
KVW 282
RB 280

3-pt %, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 42.3%
7. RB 232/557 41.65%
8.  Casey Schmidt 41.0%
9. Mike Jones 40.88%
10. Brandon McPherson 158/388 40.72%
WB 94/240 39.17%

3-pt%, season (RB into, effectively, a tie for #8)
7. Bryce Drew '94-'95 45.9%
8. Bryce Drew '96-'97 45.7%
    Samuel Haanpaa 45.7%
8. RB 63/138 45.65%
11. Seth Colclasure 45.2%

Games, career: (EB to uncontested #4!  RB into a tie for eighth)
4. EB 128
5. Raitis Grafs 127
...
T8.  a bunch of good dudes 124  (Barton-Berdiel-Gomes-Stovall-Sykes)
and
RB 124
MK 120

FG%, career:
1. KVW 315/525 60.0%
2. Zoran Viskovic 59.5%

FG%, season:
2. Zoran Viskovic, '97/98, 62.9%
3. KVW, '11/12, 153/248, 61.69%
4. KVW, 103/167, 61.68%
5. Zoran Viskovic, '98/99, 60.8%

agibs,  thanks for keeping this up for me.  i really appreciate it.

would you like to keep doing it, since you have the most updated numbers and formatting?  doesn't matter to me either way.

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 09, 2013, 12:54:55 PMwould you like to keep doing it, since you have the most updated numbers and formatting?  doesn't matter to me either way.

I just copied and pasted from you - so you're welcome to take it back any time.  Your updates certainly had more flare!

Hope you don't my occasional updates - I enjoy watching the guys climb the charts, and so got impatient ;)

i don't mind at all! it made me feel better about being gone. and it would be a sad board indeed if important things petered out just because of one person's absence!

that said, before bbtds beats me to it:
(http://publicintelligence.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/solar-flares-3.jpg)

I'll ask. What the heck is that a picture of?

Thru Wait, Dude, You're Back, Were You Even Like Gone 2/9/13

Points: RB now #9!!!
8.  Harry Bell 1,508
9.  RB 1,476

Rebounds:
2.  Raitis 841
3.  RB 794

3-pointers:
2. Lubos Barton 244
3. RB 235

Blocked Shots:
5.  Morris Smith 90
6.  RB 89

Steals: EB now alone at #9!
8.  Howard Little 145
9. EB 143
11. Tracy Gipson 138
RB 123

FT%, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 285/349 81.7%

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att): 
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
2.  RB 88 for 98 89.8%

Assists: 
4. Jared Loyd 405
5. EB 389
...
t10. Gipson / MacPherson 316
12. MK 305
...
19.  Jake Diebler 239
20. RB 221

Free throws made, career:
10.  Milo Stovall 324
KVW 288
RB 285


3-pt %, career:   
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 42.3%
7.  RB 235/564 41.67%
8.  Casey Schmidt 41.0%
9. Mike Jones 40.88%
10. Brandon McPherson 158/388 40.72%
WB 97/243 39.9% maybe...just keep it up, wouldja?

3-pt%, season RB down to #10...wth!
9. BDrew / Hannpää  45.7%
10. RB 53/115 45.5%

Games, career:  EB now #t2! RB now #t6!
1.  Howard Little 133
T2.  EB & B-Mac & Mike Rogers 129
5. Neither Bill Nor Bob Jenkins 126
T6.  RB 125 & Auntie 
T8.  the proverbial Bunch O'Some Pretty Good Dudez (Barton-Berdiel-Gomes-Stovall-Sykes)
MK 121

FG%, career:
1. KVW 319/530 60.2%
2. Zoran Viskovic 59.5%

FG%, season: KVW passing himself! Like, um, a Möbius strip of contested layups
2. Zoran Viskovic, '97/98, 62.9%
3. KVW, 107/172, 62.20%
4. KVW, '11/12, 153/248, 61.69%
5. Zoran Viskovic, '98/99, 60.8%

3-pters, season:
t9.  Jim Ford, '88/89, and Casey Schmidt, '92/93, 71
RB 66 (tied with his last year self)

for some reason, the VU game notes now omit Buggy's freshman year statistics (penultimate page).  Maybe they're worried the NCAA will revoke his medshirt or something?

and finally, just for my man Gibson and bbtds:
(http://www.formula1blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Office-Space-600-600x330.jpg)

Quote from: historyman on February 09, 2013, 08:18:15 PM
I'll ask. What the heck is that a picture of?

Glad I'm not the only one.

And laporte, nice office space reference. That was actually on tv last night.

Quote from: vuweathernerd on February 09, 2013, 08:21:48 PMGlad I'm not the only one.

ACK!  I saw "last response by "weathernerd" and I thought, HE will get it for sure!!!

Gibson said my posts had flare.  Didn't want to let him down.

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 09, 2013, 08:23:31 PM

Quote from: vuweathernerd on February 09, 2013, 08:21:48 PMGlad I'm not the only one.

ACK!  I saw "last response by "weathernerd" and I thought, HE will get it for sure!!!

Gibson said my posts had flare.  Didn't want to let him down.

Sorry to disappoint. But it's funny now that I understand it.

Did you google flare? I would have thought someone shooting a flare from a flare gun into the night sky might have done the trick.

http://newsfixnow.com/2013/02/06/great-balls-of-fire-man-accidentally-shot-his-groin-with-a-flare-gun/ (http://newsfixnow.com/2013/02/06/great-balls-of-fire-man-accidentally-shot-his-groin-with-a-flare-gun/)

Now there's a man with some flare in his "core."

"Goodness, gracious, great..............."     

Quote from: historyman on February 09, 2013, 10:50:18 PM
Did you google flare? I would have thought someone shooting a flare from a flare gun into the night sky might have done the trick.

http://newsfixnow.com/2013/02/06/great-balls-of-fire-man-accidentally-shot-his-groin-with-a-flare-gun/ (http://newsfixnow.com/2013/02/06/great-balls-of-fire-man-accidentally-shot-his-groin-with-a-flare-gun/)

Now there's a man with some flare in his "core."

"Goodness, gracious, great..............."     

that article is full of great one liners. dear lord. well done, sir. well done. :clap:

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 09, 2013, 08:18:45 PMand finally, just for my man Gibson and bbtds:

Ooh - nice!  I got the fern bar flare reference, even if I couldn't name the movie.  But, admittedly, the solar eruption blew right by me.

Great to see you back in the stats.

And thanks for patching up the mess I made of the FT stats.   But... maybe have a second look at Buggs' steals, Rowdy's assists, and KVW's single-season FG attempts? ;)

Quote from: agibson on February 10, 2013, 04:26:23 PMmaybe have a second look at Buggs' steals, Rowdy's assists, and KVW's single-season FG attempts?

What'd I get wrong?  Failure to change after I copied???

Quote from: agibson on February 10, 2013, 04:26:23 PMBut... maybe have a second look at Buggs' steals, Rowdy's assists, and KVW's single-season FG attempts?

When I looked at it yesterday, I had

Buggs at 143 steals.  Rowdy at 221 assists.  And KVW at 107/172 this season.

I have to admit I liked the flare gun in the crotch thing. I also must admit the picture of the solar? flare went right over my head.

Quote from: agibson on February 11, 2013, 01:04:20 PMBuggs at 143 steals.  Rowdy at 221 assists.  And KVW at 107/172 this season.

NVEExport.mpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY6wwAhvirY#)

Part of the statistical reasons that this team is so sweet is its efficiency (at shooting, not ball-handling).

KVW is t-13th in the nation at PPWS (points per weighted shot) with 1.34.  Rowdy t-19th with 1.32.

Additionally, ranks in the top-100 of the country:

Rowdy
--40th in FT%
--t86th in 3PT%
--t74th in eFG%
(and just outside at t-103rd in RPG and t-104th in Reb Rate)

KVW
--21st in FG%
--t40th in eFG%
--t56th in pts/40

Bogan
--t15th in FT% (only 15/16, but that's 93.8%!)

Points per game - Defense.   We have given up 61.19 ppg.  That's the best defense since... 1951-52, when we gave up 58.04 ppg.  That was in a year we went 12-12...

We are now 8-5 on the road, guaranteed better than .500 record...'01-02 we ended at 8-5, and '97-98 was last time we won 9 road games.

It's a little late to talk about "best starts".  But, are you set up to ask what the most wins we've ever had is, with only six losses? 

Is it safe to say that this is our "best start" ever?

Sorry, LaPorte, I couldn't resist.

Update through a tough road win, Feb 12, 2013.


Points:
8.  Harry Bell 1,508
9.  RB 1,486

Rebounds:
2.  Raitis 841
3.  RB 799

3-pointers:
2. Lubos Barton 244
3. RB 236

Blocked Shots:Rowdy to #5!
4.  Harry Bell 94
5.  RB 92

Steals:
8.  Howard Little 145
9. EB 143
10. Raitis Grafs 142
11. Tracy Gipson 138
RB 123

FT%, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 288/353 81.6%

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att): 
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
2.   Dick Jones '66/67, Casey Schmidt '92/93 89.7%
4.  RB 91 for 102 89.2%
5.   Dick Jones '65/66 89.1%

Assists: 
4. Jared Loyd 405
5. EB 390
...
t10. Gipson / MacPherson 316
12. MK 308
...
19.  Jake Diebler 239
20. RB 224

Free throws made, career:
10.  Milo Stovall 324
KVW 292
RB 288


3-pt %, career:   
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 42.3%
7.  RB 236/570 41.4%
8.  Casey Schmidt 41.0%
9. Mike Jones 40.88%
10. Brandon McPherson 158/388 40.72%
WB 98/245 40.0%

3-pt%, season RB drops out!  Hopefully not for long.
8. BDrew / Hannpää  45.7%
10. Seth Colclasure 45.2%
RB 67/151 44.4% (these numbers were pretty messed up in the last update; but the percentage might have been OK)

Games, career:  EB now #2 all by himself! RB now #t5!
1.  Howard Little 133
2.  EB 130
3.  B-Mac & Mike Rogers 129
5. RB and Jason Jenkins  126
6.  Auntie  125
T8.  the proverbial Bunch O'Some Pretty Good Dudez (Barton-Berdiel-Gomes-Stovall-Sykes) at 124
MK 122

FG%, career:
1. KVW 327/540 60.6%
2. Zoran Viskovic 59.5%

FG%, season: KVW passes Viskovic!
1. Wayne Charles 70.4% (whoah! I wonder what his actual numbers were?)
2. KVW, 115/182, 63.2%
3. Zoran Viskovic, '97/98, 62.9%
4. KVW, '11/12, 153/248, 61.69%
5. Zoran Viskovic, '98/99, 60.8%

3-pters, season:
t9.  Jim Ford, '88/89, and Casey Schmidt, '92/93, 71
RB 67

How in the world does someone shoot 70.4%?  Even KVW is at 63.2%, with the majority being lay-ups lol.

Wayne Charles was Doug Anderson before there was Doug Anderson (maybe literally as well as figuratively! : ).  These were all dunks and putbacks.

The interesting thing to me is the asterisk...he didn't have 75 attempts to qualify, but "retains position when given 75 attempts"...does that mean he actually shot BETTER than 70.4, and like in MLB, you're given 0-for-the at-bats you need to qualify for the title?

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 14, 2013, 10:44:55 AMbut "retains position when given 75 attempts"...does that mean he actually shot BETTER than 70.4, and like in MLB, you're given 0-for-the at-bats you need to qualify for the title?

That's my understanding.  That's why I want to see his actual stats! 

Anderson's awesome, but he's only shooting in the low 50's.  He must actually take a shot from the field now and then.

Wayne Charles never shot anything but a dunk or layup. It seemed like he was 2/2 or 2/3 every game. Anderson gets off a lot more shots, with many of those shots mid-range jumpers.

Quote from: agibson on February 14, 2013, 12:23:07 PMAnderson's awesome, but he's only shooting in the low 50's.  He must actually take a shot from the field now and then.

If you have watched any Detroit games you saw that Anderson is constantly missing from "beyond the rim."

He's shot a fair number of  threes (25). The problem is he has only made 8.

Quote from: agibson on February 08, 2013, 02:48:56 PMMatt Kenney apparently became only the second crusader, after Lubos Barton, to cross the 400 rebound/300 assist level.  I'm not sure we're setup to look for other such milestones.

I'm still not set up to find these, but here's another one from chef:

Todd Ickow ‏@ToddIckow
@RBroekhoff45 needs 16 points today and 1 rebound to join Raitis Grafs as only other player in Valpo history with 1500 pts and 800 rbs.

(OK - at least this one could be found from the top 10/20 list.)

Thru I Don't Want To Talk About It 2/16/13

Points:
8.  Harry Bell 1,508
9.  RB 1,496

Rebounds:
2.  Raitis 841
3.  RB 803

3-pointers:
2. Lubos Barton 244
3. RB 238

Blocked Shots:
4.  Harry Bell 94
6.  RB 93

Steals: EB tied at #8!  That almost makes up for no. no it doesn't.
t8.  Howard Little 145
t8. EB 145
11. Tracy Gipson 138
RB 123

FT%, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 290/355 81.7%

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att): 
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
t2.   Dick Jones '66/67, Casey Schmidt '92/93 89.7%
4.  RB 93 for 104 89.4%

Assists: 
4. Jared Loyd 405
5. EB 398
...
t10. Gipson / MacPherson 316
12. MK 309
...
19.  Jake Diebler 239
20. RB 227

Free throws made, career:
10.  Milo Stovall 324
KVW 292
RB 290

3-pt %, career:   
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 42.3%
7.  RB 238/577 41.25%
8.  Casey Schmidt 41.0%
9. Mike Jones 40.88%
10. Brandon McPherson 158/388 40.72%
WB 103/253 40.71% there's yer silver lining

3-pt%, season
t8.. BDrew / Hannpää  45.7%
10. Colclasure 45.2%
RB 69/158 43.7%

Games, career:
1.  Howard Little 133
2.  EB 131 
t3.  B-Mac & Mike Rogers 129
5.  RB 127
6. Neither Bill Nor Bob Jenkins 126
7.   Auntie Nick Killa 125
T8.  the proverbial Bunch O'Some Pretty Good Dudez (Barton-Berdiel-Gomes-Stovall-Sykes) 124
MK 123

FG%, career:
1. KVW 332/545 60.9%
2. Zoran Viskovic 59.5%

FG%, season:
1.  Wayne Charles 70.4%
2. KVW, 120/187, 64.17%
3. Zoran Viskovic, '97/98, 62.9%
4. KVW, '11/12, 153/248, 61.69%
5. Zoran Viskovic, '98/99, 60.8%

3-pters, season:
t9.  Jim Ford, '88/89, and Casey Schmidt, '92/93, 71
RB 69

(http://www.troll.me/images/saaad-paaanda/now-i-am-a-sad-panda-thumb.jpg)

Thru Another Opposite Day 2/19/13

Points: RB now #8!!!
7.  Dick Jones 1,520
8.  RB 1,510

Rebounds:
2.  Raitis 841
3.  RB 809

3-pointers:
2. Lubos Barton 244
3. RB 240

Blocked Shots: RB now #4!!
3.  Kikas 111
4.  RB 95

Steals
t8.  Howard Little 145
t8. EB 145
11. Tracy Gipson 138
RB 123

FT%, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 294/361 81.4%

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att): RB doing impression of sinking [insert Bob Seger Ford theme music] 
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
t2.   Dick Jones '66/67, Casey Schmidt '92/93 89.7%
7.  RB 97 for 110 88.2%

Assists: 
4. Jared Loyd 405
5. EB 402
...
t10. Gipson / MacPherson 316
12. MK 314
...
19.  Jake Diebler 239
20. RB 229

Free throws made, career:
10.  Milo Stovall 324
KVW 295
RB 294

3-pt %, career: WB up from 11th to 8th!   
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 42.3%
7.  RB 240/583 41.16%
8. WB 106/258 41.08%
9.  Casey Schmidt 41.0%
10. Mike Jones 40.88%
11. Brandon McPherson 158/388 40.72%

3-pt%, season
t8.. BDrew / Hannpää  45.7%
10. Colclasure 45.2%
RB 71/164 43.3%

Games, career: MK joins the ranks of The Pretty Good Dudes!
1.  Howard Little 133
2.  EB 132 
t3.  B-Mac & Mike Rogers 129
5.  RB 128
6. Neither Bill Nor Bob Jenkins 126
7.   Auntie Nick Killa 125
T8.  the proverbial Cadre of Creative Crusaders (Barton-Berdiel-Gomes-Stovall-Sykes) and MK 124

FG%, career:
1. KVW 336/552 60.87%
2. Zoran Viskovic 59.5%

FG%, season:
1.  Wayne Charles 70.4%
2. KVW, 124/194, 63.92%
3. Zoran Viskovic, '97/98, 62.9%
4. KVW, '11/12, 153/248, 61.69%
5. Zoran Viskovic, '98/99, 60.8%

3-pters, season: RB now in top 10!
8.  Lubos '01/02, 74
t9.  Jim Ford, '88/89, and Casey Schmidt, '92/93, RB 71

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Thanks for the quick update!  The march of progress continues... mostly.

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very impressive, congrats!

Thru Another BB Home Blowout 2/23/13

Points: RB now #7!!!
6.  Bruce Lindner 1,539
7.  RB 1,523

Rebounds:
2.  Raitis 841
3.  RB 811

3-pointers:
2. Lubos Barton 244
3. RB 241

Blocked Shots:
3.  Kikas 111
4.  RB 96

Steals
t8.  Howard Little 145
t8. EB 145
11. Tracy Gipson 138
RB 124

FT%, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 300/367 81.7%

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att): RB now #6! 
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
t2.   Dick Jones '66/67, Casey Schmidt '92/93 89.7%
...
5.  Bruce Lindner '69/70, 88.9%
6.  RB 103 for 116 88.8%

Assists: EB now #4! Probably to stay!!! And 3-way tie for Awesome!!!!! 
3. Ali Berdiel 507
4. EB 407
...
9.  Rob Cavanaugh 329
t10. Gipson / MacPherson / MK 316
...
19.  Jake Diebler 239
20. RB 232

Free throws made, career:
10.  Milo Stovall 324
RB 300
KVW 296

3-pt %, career: WB up from 11th to 8th to 7th!   
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 42.3%
7. WB 109/263 41.44%
8.  RB 241/584 41.27%
9.  Casey Schmidt 41.0%
10. Mike Jones 40.88%
11. Brandon McPherson 158/388 40.72%

3-pt%, season
t8.. BDrew / Hannpää  45.7%
10. Colclasure 45.2%
RB 72/165 43.63%

Games, career: EB tied for 1st!  RB for 3rd!!  MK for 7th!!!
t1.  Howard Little EB 133 
t3.  B-Mac & Mike Rogers & RB 129
6. Neither Bill Nor Bob Jenkins 126
7.   Auntie Nick Killa & MK 125

FG%, career:
1. KVW 341/557 61.22%
2. Zoran Viskovic 59.5%

FG%, season:
1.  Wayne Charles 70.4%
2. KVW, 129/199, 64.82%
3. Zoran Viskovic, '97/98, 62.9%
4. KVW, '11/12, 153/248, 61.69%
5. Zoran Viskovic, '98/99, 60.8%

3-pters, season: RB alone at 9
8.  Lubos '01/02, 74
9.  RB 72

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Thru This Horizon League Thing Is Going Pretty Well Huh 2/26/13

Points: RB now #6!!!
5.  Raitis 1,621
6.  RB 1,544

Rebounds:
2.  Raitis 841
3.  RB 821

3-pointers: RB now t2!!
1.  BDrew 364
2. Lubos & RB 241

Blocked Shots:
3.  Kikas 111
4.  RB 98

Steals: EB now alone at #8!
7.  Jamie Sykes 150
8. EB 145
11. Tracy Gipson 138
RB 124

FT%, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 306/375 81.6%

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att): 
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
t2.   Dick Jones '66/67, Casey Schmidt '92/93 89.7%
...
t8.  RB 109 for 124 87.9% & junior Bryce, 87.9%

Assists: MK now alone at 11! 
3. Ali Berdiel 507
4. EB 410
...
10.  Rob Cavanaugh 329
11. MK 319
...
18.  Mr. Mad Ant 247
19. RB 234

Free throws made, career:
10.  Milo Stovall 324
RB 306
KVW 301

3-pt %, career:   
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 42.3%
7. WB 111/268 41.41%
8.  RB 244/591 41.29%
9.  Casey Schmidt 41.0%
10. Mike Jones 40.88%
11. Brandon McPherson 158/388 40.72%

3-pt%, season
t8.. BDrew / Hannpää  45.7%
10. Colclasure 45.2%
RB 75/172 43.6%

Games, career: EB alone in 1st!  RB alone in 3rd!!  MK tied for 6th!!!
1.  EB 134 
2.  Howard Little 133
3.  RB 130
t4.  B-Mac & Mike Rogers 129
6. Neither Bill Nor Bob Jenkins & MK 126

FG%, career:
1. KVW 346/563 61.46%
2. Zoran Viskovic 59.5%

FG%, season:
1.  Wayne Charles 70.4%
2. KVW, 134/1205, 65.37%
3. Zoran Viskovic, '97/98, 62.9%
4. KVW, '11/12, 153/248, 61.69%

3-pters, season: RB now #8
7.  Haanpää  06/7 76
8.  RB 75

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What was the Kenney milestone chef mentioned tonight?  Rebounds, Assists, and Points, something like that?  Have we covered that one?

I think that only him and Lubos have over 400 rebounds and 300 assists

Quote from: valpotx on February 26, 2013, 11:32:14 PM
I think that only him and Lubos have over 400 rebounds and 300 assists

That's what it was.

Quote from: agibson on February 26, 2013, 09:47:29 PMWhat was the Kenney milestone chef mentioned tonight?  Rebounds, Assists, and Points, something like that?  Have we covered that one?

sigh.

Quote from: agibson on February 08, 2013, 02:48:56 PMMatt Kenney apparently became only the second crusader, after Lubos Barton, to cross the 400 rebound/300 assist level.  I'm not sure we're setup to look for other such milestones.

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Quote from: valporun on February 27, 2013, 10:55:32 AM

Quote from: valpotx on February 26, 2013, 11:32:14 PM
I think that only him and Lubos have over 400 rebounds and 300 assists

That's what it was.

Ah, was it not something new then?  Somehow the way John said it made me think it was something very recently achieved.

Anyhow, apparently, nothing to see here folks!

I believe Matt set that mark 3 weeks ago vs UIC. Speaking of Kenney, I think he's 11th now in asts not 10th. I see him listed behind Dr. Cavanaugh 329 to Matt's 319. Rob started the season 9th, but has been passed by Buggs. Thus Cavanaugh 10th now and Kenney 11th. Could Apostle have made an error? It's a rare occurrence if he did.

It looks like Van Wijk will also break a Horizon League record for best single-season field goal percentage within league play - according to the Horizon League record book, the current record is 68.6%, and Van Wijk is currently at 71% this year in league games.

Not only that but I made another one so far uncaught. (sorry.) The current top 20:

1. Bryce Drew 626
2. John McIlvain 582
3. Ali Berdiel 507
4. ERIK BUGGS 410
5. Jarryd Loyd 405
6. Todd Smith 368
t7. Scott Anselm 360
t7. Lubos Barton 360
9. Jamie Sykes 359
10. Rob Cavanaugh 329
11. MATT KENNEY 319
t12. Tracy Gipson 316
t12.  Brandon McPherson 316
14. Milo Stovall 295
15. Jared Nuness 290
16. Tim Hostetler 284
17. Greg Tonagel 280
18. Ron Howard 247
19. RYAN BROEKHOFF 234
20. Jake Diebler 229

Quote from: vusupporter on February 27, 2013, 02:07:57 PMIt looks like Van Wijk will also break a Horizon League record for best single-season field goal percentage within league play - according to the Horizon League record book, the current record is 68.6%, and Van Wijk is currently at 71% this year in league games.

NICE pickup!

AND he is just SEVEN points away from 1000 for his career...which is impressive for 3 years' work.

Unless you're Bruce Lindner.

Also, when you're looking at these and projecting, we are guaranteed THREE more games, but a maximum of only NINE more is possible.

I posted the full script on the "Senior Night" page... Chef is right... It was a nice number-combination, but he did hit it a few weeks ago.   By the way, if you combine Chef's, Mine and Broekhoff's points and rebounds we are the only group with 1500+ points and 800+ rebounds in VU history.

reminds me of my favorite Stacey King quote, after all he did was contribute a free throw to MJ's career high 69 points dropped on the Cavs:

"I'll always remember this as the night Michael Jordan and I combined to score 70 points."

Interestingly, I thought "how many times could VU have had 3 players in the top 20 in career assists on the same roster?"

well...more than maybe you'd think:

1986-87, 1987-88, 1988-89:  Todd Smith, Scott Anselm, Mike Jones (although Jones just dropped off because of Rowdy)
2004-05:  Ali Berdiel, Jarryd Loyd, Ron Howard
2005-06:  Ali Berdiel, Jarryd Loyd, Brandon MacPherson, Ron Howard, Jake Diebler (FIVE!!!)
2012-13:  Erik Buggs, Matt Kenney, Ryan Broekhoff

I believe 04-05 was Berdiel's red-shirt year....so does that count? Also, Loyd and Howard were not in the top 20 at that point in their career...so does that count?

Quote from: chef on February 28, 2013, 12:13:40 AMI believe 04-05 was Berdiel's red-shirt year....so does that count? Also, Loyd and Howard were not in the top 20 at that point in their career...so does that count?

Good point--I wanted to say "roster" rather than "team" to make clear it didn't matter whether active or not.

As far as whether they were top-20, that would require going back through each year's media guide, and even I don't have that kind of drive.

Besides, as a kid (early 90s) I remember them only listing a top-10 list for many years.  Wonder when they went to 20?

As a side note, check out what Nebraska (sorry to bring them up) does in their media guide for their 1000-point scorers (they have several Regionites in their history) at this link.  http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=205718312 (http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=205718312).  It's hard to get to, but they have 40 pages of history (161-200)--the 1000 point club is at 171 through 174.

I think we really need to bring out our history more -- we have a great past and these players deserve more than just a line, a date, and a number.

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 28, 2013, 09:18:19 AM

Quote from: chef on February 28, 2013, 12:13:40 AMI believe 04-05 was Berdiel's red-shirt year....so does that count? Also, Loyd and Howard were not in the top 20 at that point in their career...so does that count?

Good point--I wanted to say "roster" rather than "team" to make clear it didn't matter whether active or not.

As far as whether they were top-20, that would require going back through each year's media guide, and even I don't have that kind of drive.

Besides, as a kid (early 90s) I remember them only listing a top-10 list for many years.  Wonder when they went to 20?

As a side note, check out what Nebraska (sorry to bring them up) does in their media guide for their 1000-point scorers (they have several Regionites in their history) at this link.  http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=205718312 (http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=205718312).  It's hard to get to, but they have 40 pages of history (161-200)--the 1000 point club is at 171 through 174.

I think we really need to bring out our history more -- we have a great past and these players deserve more than just a line, a date, and a number.

That would require---oh, never mind.  :banghead:

Hey, WH, could you come over this weekend?

My wife and I are redecorating and we need help hanging these banners in our hallway.  It's dank and dusty, but we have to get them out of here so we don't have to look at them.

;)

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Good 3 year career with us, hopefully one that lasts another 4+ games!

Thru One Heck of a Regular Season Eh

Points:
5.  Raitis 1,621
6.  RB 1,551

Rebounds:
2.  Raitis 841
3.  RB 825

3-pointers: RB alone at #2!!
1.  BDrew 364
2. RB 242

Blocked Shots:
3.  Kikas 111
4.  RB 98

Steals
7.  Jamie Sykes 150
8. EB 146
11. Tracy Gipson 138
RB 126

FT%, career:
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 306/375 81.6%

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att): 
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
t2.   Dick Jones '66/67, Casey Schmidt '92/93 89.7%
...
t8.  RB 109 for 124 87.9% & junior Bryce, 87.9%

Assists:MK now alone at 11! 
3. Ali Berdiel 507
4. EB 417
...
10.  Rob Cavanaugh 329
11. MK 321
...
18.  Mr. Mad Ant 247
19. RB 237

Free throws made, career:
10.  Milo Stovall 324
RB 306
KVW 305

3-pt %, career: Flip-flop   
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 42.3%
7.  RB 245/594 41.24%
8. WB 112/272 41.17%
9.  Casey Schmidt 41.0%
10. Mike Jones 40.88%
11. Brandon McPherson 158/388 40.72%

3-pt%, season
t8.. BDrew / Hannpää  45.7%
10. Colclasure 45.2%
RB 76/175 43.43%

Games, career: MK alone in 6th!!!
1.  EB 135 
2.  Howard Little 133
3.  RB 131
t4.  B-Mac & Mike Rogers 129
6. MK 127

FG%, career:
1. KVW 348/568 61.27%
2. Zoran Viskovic 59.5%

FG%, season:
1.  Wayne Charles 70.4%
2. KVW, 136/210, 64.76%
3. Zoran Viskovic, '97/98, 62.9%
4. KVW, '11/12, 153/248, 61.69%

3-pters, season: RB tied for #7!
6.  Freshman Bryce 78
7.  Haanpää  06/7 & RB 76

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um...i had the GB update here.  and then i wrote over it.

and didn't know it.

so i freaked out and thought all the work I did after the championship was gone.

it wasn't.

kind of.

still a little freaked out down here.

oh well.

In the "has a shot at a single season record category":

Free Throws (made), season
10.  Tracy Gipson and Chuck Kriston 133
KVW 124

ryan broekhoff - first ballot vu hall of famer. no doubt. hands down one of the best all-around players to don the brown and gold.

Hey LaPorte...I know we could find it elsewhere, but since you have everything set up already...and chance you could include the #1 spot in each of these categories...just for perspective?

good point.  when i am home from work i will add it.

speaking of #1, scary to think that Doug McDermott of Creighton has more points than Bryce...and he's a junior.

OK, I've got to know.

Horizon League Tournament: Most turnovers?  Most in a win?

If we don't set those, most in a championship game?

Turnovers in a Valpo game?  In a winning effort?

In thirteen years of stats, 25 Valpo turnovers is the most I see in _any_ game.  The only other instance, apart from tonight's win, was a loss against UNC at the United Center, December 20, 2008.

Apart from that, the most I can find is 24 Valpo turnovers.  February 4, 2012.  In a home win.  Over Wright State.

23 earlier this season at New Mexico, of course.  In a losing effort.

Not sure if I'll manage any longer back than that for Valpo.  Or any history for the Horizon League tournament or championship game.  I'd love to know the stats, if someone has access to a better archive.

For what it's worth, we've _forced_ more than 25 (26, 27) but only against non-D1 teams.

Thru THAT JUST HAPPENED!!!

Points:
1. B-Drew 2,142
5.  Raitis 1,621
6.  RB 1,583

Rebounds:
1.  Ensminger 910
2.  Raitis 841
3.  RB 836

3-pointers:
1.  BDrew 364
2. RB 251

Blocked Shots:
1.  Raitis Grafs 228
3.  Kikas 111
4.  RB 99

Steals:  EB now #7!
1.  Lubos 190
6.  J McIlvain 157
7. EB 151
11. Tracy Gipson 138
RB 128

FT%, career:
1.  Dick Jones & Chuck Kriston 86.5%
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 312/382 81.7%

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att): 
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
t2.   Dick Jones '66/67, Casey Schmidt '92/93 89.7%
...
8.  junior Bryce, 87.9%
9.  Facemask Barker, 87.8%
10.  RB 115 for 131 87.78%

Free Throws (made), season
1.  Bruce Lindner 177
10.  Tracy Gipson and Chuck Kriston 133
KVW 128

Assists: 
1. B-Drew 626
3. Ali Berdiel 507
4. EB 424
...
10.  Rob Cavanaugh 329
11. MK 328
...
18.  Mr. Mad Ant 247
19. RB 244

Free throws made, career:
1.  Ed Eckhart 452
10.  Milo Stovall 324
KVW 314
RB 312

3-pt %, career:   
1.  Haanpää 44.5%
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 42.3%
7.  RB 251/609 41.21%
8.  Casey Schmidt 41.0%
9. WB 114/278 41.0%
10. Mike Jones 40.88%
11. Brandon McPherson 158/388 40.72%

3-pt%, season
1.  The FACEMASK 52.1% (!) 1991/92
t8. junior BDrew / freshman Haanpää  45.7%
10. Colclasure 45.2%
RB 82/190 43.16%

Games, career: Rowdy to t2! MK to to t4!
1.  EB 137 
t2.  Howard Little 133
t2.  RB 133
t4.  B-Mac & Mike Rogers & MK 129

FG%, career:
1. KVW 357/582 61.34%
2. Zoran Viskovic 59.5%

FG%, season:
1.  Wayne Charles 70.4%
2. KVW, 145/224, 64.73%
3. Zoran Viskovic, '97/98, 62.9%
4. KVW, '11/12, 153/248, 61.69%

3-pters, season: RB now #6!
1.  junior Bryce 100
5.  Shawn HUFF 07/8 91
6. RB 82

Points, season
9.  Vern Curtis, 66/67 & B-Wood 9/10 565
RB 509

Steals, season
1.  Senior Lubos, 62
9.  Senior Milo, 51
10.  Junior Bryce & Freshman Lubos & EB 50

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We should take away your modify powers ;)  But you always manage a solid job on the most recent.

How about we add:

Free Throws (made), season
10.  Tracy Gipson and Chuck Kriston 133
KVW 128

And, is Rowdy actually at "only" 836 rebounds?

Thru A Run That Had To End One Day

Points:  Rowdy ends his career in 6th place.
1. B-Drew 2,142
5.  Raitis 1,621
6.  RB 1,591

Rebounds:  Rowdy ends tied for 2nd!
1.  Ensminger 910
t2.  RB 841
t2.  Raitis 841

3-pointers:
1.  BDrew 364
2. RB 252

Blocked Shots: Rowdy becomes just the fourth player to get triple digits in blocks!
1.  Raitis Grafs 228
3.  Kikas 111
4.  RB 100

Steals:  Buggy just shy of McIlvain after 5 more thefts today.
1.  Lubos 190
6.  J McIlvain 157
7. EB 156
11. Tracy Gipson 138
RB 129

FT%, career:
1.  Dick Jones & Chuck Kriston 86.5%
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 82.5%
7.  RB 315/385 81.8%

FT%, Single-season (min. 75 att): Rowdy's 3 makes today propel him up 2 but leave him JUST shy... 
1.   Casey Schmidt '93/94, 92.6%
t2.   Dick Jones '66/67, Casey Schmidt '92/93 89.7%
...
7.  Chuck Kriston '61/62 133 for 151 88.08%
8.  RB 118 for 134 88.06%

Free Throws (made), season
1.  Bruce Lindner 177
10.  Tracy Gipson and Chuck Kriston 133
KVW 130

Assists:  Kenney finishes in the top 10!  Buggs will be on this list until Bryce Homer Drew III is quarterbacking the VU attack.  Ryan...can say he was on the list :) 
1. B-Drew 626
3. Ali Berdiel 507
4. EB 426
...
9.  Rob Cavanaugh 329
10. MK 330
...
18.  Mr. Mad Ant 247
19. RB 246

Free throws made, career:  KVW WINS
1.  Ed Eckhart 452
10.  Milo Stovall 324
KVW 316
RB 315

3-pt %, career: don't ask.   
1.  Haanpää 44.5%
6.  Rob Cavanaugh 42.3%
7.  Casey Schmidt 41.0%
8. Mike Jones 40.88%
9.  RB 252/618 40.78%
10. Brandon McPherson 158/388 40.72%
WB 114/281 40.57%

3-pt%, season:  although, just imagine if he'd shot his season average today...
1.  The FACEMASK 52.1% (!) 1991/92
t8. junior BDrew / freshman Haanpää  45.7%
10. Colclasure 45.2%
RB 83/199 41.71%

Games, career: Rowdy alone at 2. Kenney alone at 4. Erik alone for probably a good long while.
1.  EB 138 
2.  RB 133
t3.  Howard Little 133
4.  MK 130

FG%, career: still atop the heap, but imagine if HE'd shot HIS percentage...
1. KVW 357/582 60.71%
2. Zoran Viskovic 59.5%

FG%, season: that was closer than it had to be
1.  Wayne Charles 70.4%
2. KVW, 145/224, 63.04%
3. Zoran Viskovic, '97/98, 62.9%
4. KVW, '11/12, 153/248, 61.69%

3-pters, season:
1.  junior Bryce 100
5.  Shawn HUFF 07/8 91
6. RB 83

Points, season
9.  Vern Curtis, 66/67 & B-Wood 9/10 565
RB 517

Steals, season:  wow.  from 10 to 6 in an afternoon.
1.  Senior Lubos, 62
5.  Senior Stalin 56
t6.  Jr. B-Wood & EB 55

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Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on March 21, 2013, 02:04:21 PMAssists:  Kenney finishes in the top 10!  Buggs will be on this list until Bryce Homer Drew III is quarterbacking the VU attack.  Ryan...can say he was on the list   
1. B-Drew 626
3. Ali Berdiel 507
4. EB 426
...
9.  Rob Cavanaugh 329
10. MK 330
...
18.  Mr. Mad Ant 247
19. RB 246

OK, remind me who "Mr. Mad Ant" is again?

http://www.wane.com/dpp/sports/local_sports/wane-basketball-ants-acquire-howard-201103141839 (http://www.wane.com/dpp/sports/local_sports/wane-basketball-ants-acquire-howard-201103141839)

QuoteThe Fort Wayne Mad Ants announced today that they have acquired Ron Howard. Howard has spent the 2010-11 season in Australia and has recently been waived. Howard will fill the spot of Carlos English who was waived by the team last week.

Howard, nicknamed "Mr. Mad Ant", is a Fort Wayne fan favorite since he has been with the Ants since their inaugural season. Howard has played in 124 games for the Ants, has recorded a total of 2,018 points, and has averaged 16.3 points per game in his career. He averaged 20.6 points per game and was named to the 2009-2010 NBA D-League All-Star team last season.

This was enjoyable to read LPAA thanks for keeping it up all season.  Unfortunately I feel the only thing that could be in trouble is a top 10 FG% for Bobby next season.  Maybe LaVonte could put together a top 10 FT% next year too? This is wishful thinking.

Quote from: Kyle321n on March 21, 2013, 03:09:17 PMThis was enjoyable to read LPAA thanks for keeping it up all season.

Thank you so much.  It was fun, and you're right--next year will be a lot less work (sadly).

One more re-cap, wrap-up on the records for this years class...

Nobody can argue about the 26 wins.  cool
16 wins at home...

1944-45:   Final tally for 1944/45 was 21-3
12-0 home
6-2  away
3-1  neutral   ... including wins at the Boston Garden (Holy Cross), Buffalo Coliseum and Madison Square Garden (LIU)
as verified by a combination of the Official Score Book in the Archives, and the books of our opponents....

so the only other years that might upset the applecart on Home wins (16) and Road wins (10) was 1923-24.
Judy Miller in the Archives did some checking:

Hate to burst your bubble.  The 1923-24 season - all played after 1/1/24  --

13 home wins
11 road wins  (Some may have been neutral Sites... they are still checking some of the books)
Record for '23/'24 = 24 wins, 4 losses

Interesting that all of the games that year were played after 1/1/24.  The Old College Main building had just burned down and a lot of campus activities were curtailed.   The Gymnasium didn't burn down until 1927, when we started a 12-year run of playing our home games at then-Valpo High School (now Ben Franklin Middle School).

So, one more 'research issue' on  Number of Road Wins during a single season, but the record set this year is at least 89-years-old.  But the record for Home Wins was set by this year's team. 

Very cool that this data is still available in the archives.  I bet it was kind of neat to go through that old stuff.  ;D

Fun stuff.

But, I still want to know about turnovers! 

Have we ever had 25 in a win before?   Have we ever had more than 25 in a loss? 

Has anyone in the Horizon League?

Is 25 turnovers a record (win or loss) in the HL tournament?  Or at least a record for a win?

Do people just not compile turnover stats in the same way they do for points, assists, etc?

Quote from: agibson on March 27, 2013, 01:04:56 PM
Fun stuff.

But, I still want to know about turnovers! 

Have we ever had 25 in a win before?   Have we ever had more than 25 in a loss? 

Has anyone in the Horizon League?

Is 25 turnovers a record (win or loss) in the HL tournament?  Or at least a record for a win?

Do people just not compile turnover stats in the same way they do for points, assists, etc?

Most this year with a win (all of NCAA)
http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2012/11/10/chicago-state-67-green-bay-72 (http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2012/11/10/chicago-state-67-green-bay-72)
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http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/stats?season1=1997&season2=2012&conf=&team=valparaiso&stat=turnovers (http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/stats?season1=1997&season2=2012&conf=&team=valparaiso&stat=turnovers)
Since 1997 25 is our highest turnover amount of turnovers in a win. 30 vs Purdue in 1997 is highest in a loss.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2002/03/05/iupui-55-valparaiso-88 (http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2002/03/05/iupui-55-valparaiso-88)
In 2002 we destroyed IUPUI in the conference tourney game, but committed 20 turnovers. That's our next highest mark in a conference tourney game, with 25 being the highest.

Can't go back any further, but I don't think they even played basketball before 1997.

As y'all know, there hasn't been a lot to do on this thread this year, since it's kind of a 'transitional' year between the previous excellence of a great sr. class and the potential excellence of a great fr. class.

Nevertheless!  Some things to keep an eye on:

--If Dority scores his average for the rest of the year (assuming only the games we're guaranteed--10 more plus 1 conf tourney) he would end up with 544 points.  The 10th best single season mark is 565, most recently by B-Wood.  Given he's averaged 20 ppg the last 5, who wants to bet against him?

--Gueye needs just 4 more blocks to move into top-10 country (season).  At his current rate, he would end up with 58, and the 3rd best season all time (behind soph & jr Raitis).  He'll have to step it up to move into top-10 all time (Jim Stueve with 72), but still, for one season, not bad.  Also will win the "Seven Footer Shooting FTs Award", of course given out by Shaq and Dwight Howard at halftime of the NIT quarterfinals on OLN.

--More Dority--at his current rate, 69 3 pointers for the season, which would leave him just shy of top-10 seasons--quietly, I should think!  An extra postseason game would get pace him to 71, #10 and tied with sr Jim Ford and jr Casey Schmidt.

--He's on pace to make 151 FTs, which would be the third best season here EVER, behind sr Bruce Lindner and jr Dick Jones.

Fun with numbers:

How good is Gueye?  If he didn't take another FT all year, Carter could make his next 20 in a row and still be behind him.

Jubril has one more made FT--and 13 more attempts.

Vashil has 5 fewer FTs--despite 50% more attempts!!!

Here's how many consecutive makes Vashil would have to make just to get to Gueye-level excellence: 125.
(http://www.lefthandedtoons.com/toons/drew_whenpigsfly.gif)
(Hell, Rob Cavanaugh couldn't even do that.)

Jordan Coleman:  9 more 3PT attempts than Capo.   ...5 fewer makes.

#No3sJordan

Best AST-to-TO ratios (this side of Chadwick, 5.0, and Davidson, 3.0, of course):
1)  Yeo 1.56
2)  Lexus 1.32
3) Coleman 1.24
4)  Carter 1.13
5)  LVD 1.08

Worst...
5)  Jubril 0.96
4)  Capo 0.75
3)  Peters 0.74
2)  Vashil 0.21 (m'gawrsh)
1)  Gueye 0.19 (egads)

Dority:  415 pts in 24 games (17.3 ppg)
  NEEDS:  150 pts in 8 (guaranteed) games (18.8 ppg) to make top 10 pts/season

Dority:  53 3pters in 24 games
  NEEDS:  18 in 8 games (almost on pace) to make top 10 3pts/season

Dority:  110 FTM in 24 games
  NEEDS:  23 in 8 games to make top 10 ft/season.  On pace for 147 (#3 all-time!)

Gueye:  40 blocks in 24 games (1.7 bpg)
  NEEDS:  1 more to move into top 10 blk/season.  Avg for rest of year would give him 53 for season (#6 all-time)
  Recorded the 100th block of his college career vs. Milwaukee; now up to 103.

AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OUTTA NOWHERE

VASHIL:  45 blocks in 24 games (1.9 bpg)
  NEEDS:  nothing.  Already the #9 season ever.  At current rate would have 60 for season (#3 all-time!)
CAREER:  59 blocks in 51 games.  Needs 13 more to move into top-10 all-time (on pace for 15 more this season; would leave him #t8 with Lubos with a season to play).

And not to get way too far ahead, but 1.875 bpg next year would leave him #2 all-time.

FUN FACT TIME when was the last time we had TWIN TOWERS with more than 40 blocks in the same season?

doo DOO doo doo doo DOO doooooo (jeopardy.mp3)

...

time's up.

Let's see what Tex has. 
"What are Raitis and Antti?" 
Nope, I'm sorry, that's wrong.  What did you wager?  THE ENTIRE VALUE OF JOSH HAMILTON'S CONTRACT?  What were you thinking?  Oh, I'm sorry.  Just "the entire worth of Josh Hamilton".  Oh--well played. No big loss there.

Historyman says "Who are Gomes & Grafs?" 
Good guess.  But wrong.  I'm sorry you wagered so much, but I appreciate your self-confidence.

The correct answer is
"Who were Zoran Viscovic & Ivan Vujic?" in 1998-99.

That was actually the only time Valpo had two players with 40 blocks in a season....that is until today.

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 01, 2014, 09:52:16 PMHistoryman says "Who are Gomes & Grafs?"  Good guess.  But wrong.  I'm sorry you wagered so much, but I appreciate your self-confidence. The correct answer is "Who were Zoran Viscovic & Ivan Vujic?" in 1998-99.

I would have started with "I'll take Valpo records records for $300, Alex." then "who are Vucovic & Visjic?" Of course that would have been wrong also. I would have finished in the negative and been out of Final Jeopardy.

Quote from: historyman on February 02, 2014, 12:57:56 AMI would have finished in the negative and been out of Final Jeopardy.

LOL

Dority:  439 pts in 26 games (16.9 ppg)
  NEEDS:  126 pts in 6 (guaranteed) games (21 ppg) to make top 10 pts/season
A little off the pace.  SOMEBODY TURN ON THE MICROWAVE

Dority:  56 3pters in 26 games
  NEEDS:  15 in 6 games (not quite on pace) to make top 10 3pts/season

Dority:  115 FTM in 26 games
  NEEDS:  18 in 6 games to make top 10 ft/season.  On pace for 142 (#t3 all-time!)

BLOX, season
5. sr Gomes 54
t6. GUEYE 51
t6. sr Viscovic 51
7. jr Viscovic 49
8. jr Mo Smith 48
9. VASHIL 45

Gueye:  51 blocks in 26 games (1.96 bpg)
  ROCKETED back up the list!  Avg for rest of year would give him 63 for season (#3 season!)
 
VASHIL:  45 blocks in 26 games (1.9 bpg)
  NEEDS:  some blocks.  first time two straight games without a block this season!  At current rate would have 55 for season (#5 all-time!)
CAREER:  59 blocks in 53 games.  Needs 13 more to move into top-10 all-time (on pace for 10 more this season).

FUN FACT TIME Many of our stats are dominated by recent players, i.e. the last 20 years.    Which makes some sense, right?  BUT WHO is the only player in the last 20 years to post a top-10 FTs-made season, until LVD does this year?

doo DOO doo doo doo DOO doooooo (jeopardy.mp3)

...

time's up.

(http://makeameme.org/media/created/dont-pretend.jpg)



(http://makeameme.org/media/created/139-made-fts.jpg)

I wonder what his brother Mike is Opp to?

anyway, just one little thing... the game on Saturday is the 1100th game since we turned D1 in 1977.... we are at 556-543 for the first 1,099 games...and the point total is equally close 76,844 (69.92ppg) for,  and 76,772 (69.86ppg) against... a difference of 72 points.

We are 55 points away from 2,000 for the season... a plateau we have hit every year since 1992-93... Except in 2008-09, when we only managed 1,901.

Quote from: talksalot on February 11, 2014, 07:58:05 PMExcept in 2008-09, when we only managed 1,901.

I propose a 3-month ban for anyone bringing up that season ;)

Unless it's to show how much an aberration it is.

Thanks for the updates!

Quote from: talksalot on February 11, 2014, 07:58:05 PMI wonder what his brother Mike is Opp to?

:banghead:

Quote from: wh on February 11, 2014, 09:05:31 PM

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 11, 2014, 08:18:11 PM

Quote from: talksalot on February 11, 2014, 07:58:05 PMExcept in 2008-09, when we only managed 1,901.

I propose a 3-month ban for anyone bringing up that season ;)

Unless it's to show how much an aberration it is.

Thanks for the updates!

Logan Jones recruiting video:

Logan playing basketball (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB9Zb-RLU80#)

Probably we should have followed him a little longer before we offered...  ;)

I thought about bringing up Logan Jones too but at least I managed to restrain the impulse. Like I said a few years back I suspected that we might have been making a mistake with that recruitment when I saw the reaction  ??? of a Madison resident to the VU interest in him. I hope Milan doesn't catch wind that we are again talking about his favorite player.

For the record that was the one and only season that I watched more girls games than guys and it wasn't even close.

Keep a watch on LAA, as he is about to make Valpo Fans Forum history, and take the most posts lead  :)

Quote from: valpotx on February 12, 2014, 12:31:32 PMKeep a watch on LAA, as he is about to make Valpo Fans Forum history, and take the most posts lead

yeesh.  i'm going to tone it down then.

yes
i realize that makes this post ironic.

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 12, 2014, 01:05:40 PMyeesh.  i'm going to tone it down then.

I'll believe that when pigs drive and show proof of car insurance on their phone.




(http://rogersnider.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/img_1437.jpg)

touché.

thinking about it, tex, though, i must have subconsciously adapted your philosophy, because a year ago i was writing ridiculously long posts (see recruiting '14 or '15, for example) but now I just pop in, snipe, and boogie out.

Are you saying that you are my minion?  I've always wanted those!!! ;)

First, just for Tex:
(http://minionslovebananas.com/images/play-with-minions/minion-maker.jpg)

Dority:  458 pts in 27 games (17.0 ppg)
  NEEDS:  107 pts in 5 (guaranteed) games (21.4 ppg) to make top 10 pts/season
don't stop young man DRIVE TO THE HOLE

Dority:  56 3pters in 27 games
  NEEDS:  15 in 5 games (3/game instead of 2/gm current) to make top 10 3pts/season

Dority:  122 FTM in 27 games
  NEEDS:  11 in 5 games to make top 10 ft/season.  On pace for 145 (#3 all-time!)

BLOX, season
t3. sr Raitis & sr Mo Kone 57
5. GUEYE 55
6. sr Gomes 54
7. sr Viscovic 51
8. jr Viscovic 49
9. jr Mo Smith 48
10. VASHIL 46

Gueye:  55 blocks in 27 games (2 bpg)
  Imagine how many he'd have had if Saturday had been at home!  Avg for rest of year would give him 64 for season (#3 season!), 4 out of top spot
 
VASHIL:  46 blocks in 27 games (1.7 bpg)
  1 block in 3 games...  At current rate would have 55 for season (#5 all-time!)
CAREER:  60 blocks in 54 games.  Needs 12 more to move into top-10 all-time (on pace for 9 more this season).

FUN FACT TIME Only one player has ever shot over 90% FTs for the year (with requisite attempts).  WHO is it?

doo DOO doo doo doo DOO doooooo (jeopardy.mp3)

...

time's up.

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93-94 (sr year) 92.6%
i still remember the photo on the front page of the Vidette sports section of him dunking, PJank.  he got a technical for it, i remember reading, but it seemed. so. worth it.

Just imagine if Moussa could stay on the floor for more than 14-15 minutes each game

Dority:  482 pts in 29 games (16.6 ppg)
  NEEDS:  83 pts in 3 (guaranteed) games (27.7 ppg) to make top 10 pts/season
er...well there's always an extended post-season run

Dority:  60 3pters in 29 games
  NEEDS:  11 in 3 games (3.8/game instead of 2/gm current) to make top 10 3pts/season

Dority:  128 FTM in 29 games
  NEEDS:  5 in 3 games to make top 10 ft/season.  On pace for 141 (#5 all-time)
stupid GB refs

BLOX, season
1. soph Raitis 67
2. jr Raitis 66
3. GUEYE 60
t4. sr Raitis & sr Mo Kone 57
6. sr Gomes 54
7. sr Viscovic 51
8. VASHIL 50

Gueye:  60 blocks in 29 games (2 bpg)
  Avg for rest of year would give him 66 for season (t#2 season!), 1 out of top spot...who wants the over?
 
VASHIL:  50 blocks in 29 games (1.7 bpg)
  1 block in 3 games...  At current rate would have 55 for season (#6 all-time!)
CAREER:  64 blocks in 56 games.  Needs 8 more to move into top-10 all-time (on pace for 5 more this season).

FUN FACT TIME You know who 1 & 2 are.  Who is #3 on the team in blocks?


doo DOO doo doo doo DOO doooooo (jeopardy.mp3)

...

time's up.

(http://makeameme.org/media/created/jordan-coleman-with.jpg)

Noticed that when Jubril grabs one more board, we will have 6 with 100+ rebounds.

Now, on one hand, that doesn't seem like a lot--it's just 3 per game when you play 33, right?  I MEAN DEAR GOD YOU CAN JUST STAND THERE AND PROBABLY THE BALL WILL BOUNCE TO YOU THREE TIMES OVER THE COURSE OF FORTY MINUTES RIGHT?

...and yet, it's hard to do:

WSU only has 2 (possible 2 more);
CSU 4 (possible 5th);
Det 4;
GB 4 (probable 5th);
MILW 4;
Oak 3 (likely 4th);
UIC 3;
YSU 4.

And it's not just HL teams either...here are some of this year's opponents.
Murray St 2 (possible 2 more);
Illinois 4 (possible 5th);
Ohio 2 (possible 2 more);
Evansville 3;
UCF 3;
Mercer 3 (possible 4th)
St. Louis 4 (probable 5th)

That's just impressive.  Let's put it in team perspective:
last year: 4.
2012:  3.
2011 was the last time 6 did it:
Rowdy 182
Howard Little 172
Cory Johnson 148
B-Wood 142
Kenney 124
Mike Rogers 107

2010: 4.  2009: (ERROR 404 FILE NOT FOUND, OR 3)
2008: 4.  2007: 4.
2006: 3.  2005: 4
2004: 3.  2003: 5.
2002: 5.  2001: 6!
Raitis 259
Lubos 182
Jason Jenkins 127
Toatley 123 (!)
Gomes 119
Stovall 110

2000: 6!
Raitis 184
Lubos 175
Vujic 174
Stovall 114
J-Jenk 101
Toatley 100 (seriously, has there ever been a less-heralded guard to do that 2 years running?)

1999: 4.  1998: 5.
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Toatley was one of my favorite players to watch in my first few years.  I never would have guessed that Jason Jenkins had 100+ rebounds in 2 different seasons, as he literally set up a house along the 3-pt line :)

Do you have any figures for how close Moussa is to breaking the record for travels in a season?  I swear he has at least one every game.

(http://www.troll.me/images/billy-mays/billy-mays-here-too-soon-bro.jpg)

Quote from: chipper955 on February 23, 2014, 10:47:04 AM
Do you have any figures for how close Moussa is to breaking the record for travels in a season?  I swear he has at least one every game.

I would guess that he averages over 1 traveling call per game.  Vashil has shown improvement around the basket in taking it to the hoop quicker when he is given a pass in low, but Moussa absolutely needs to be very close to the basket to have a chance at scoring (outside of his random jump shot the other game).  He has shown the ability to seal off his defender directly under the hoop, though.

Dority:  501 pts in 31 games (16.2 ppg)
  NEEDS:  64 pts to make top 10 pts/season
leggo

Dority:  62 3pters in 31 games
  NEEDS:  9 to make top 10 3pts/season

FTM, season
1.   Bruce Lindner ('70) 177
2.   Dick Jones ('67) 166
t3.   Fran Clements ('62) 142
t3.    Ed Eckart ('57) 142
t5.   Bruce Lindner ('69) 139
t5.    Dan Oppland ('04) 139
t7.   Vern Curtis ('67) 137
t7.     John Meyne ('84) 137
9.   Dick Jones ('68) 134
t10. LVD 133
t10. Tracy Gipson ('93) 133
t10. Chuck Kriston ('62) 133

BLOX, season
1. soph Raitis 67
2. jr Raitis 66
3. GUEYE 62
t4. sr Raitis & sr Mo Kone 57
6. VASHIL 55

Takeaways...LVD part of the 500-point club.  I know that history doesn't work this way, but his two-year stats over four years would leave him #13 on the all time scoring list.  I think that's a fair comparison of how good he is, because it's not taking into account the games he missed last year, nor the rest of his games this year.  (Anyone who doesn't like him, what's your freakin' problem?  do you CARE to imagine how/where we'd be without him?  I'll tell you:  somewhere between UIC and YSU, that's where.)

Furthermore, I would be willing to bet that of people who have played at least 1000 or 1500 minutes for VU, he's top-10 in points-per-minute played.

FUN FACT TIME #1 in minutes played, both total and average, is LVD.  #2 is Peters.  But who is #3?


doo DOO doo doo doo DOO doooooo (jeopardy.mp3)

...

time's up.  note the sic.

(http://www.riggsfamilyblogs.com/Portfolio/Lexus-Concept.jpg)

Dority:  513 pts in 32 games (16 ppg)
  NEEDS:  52 pts to make top 10 pts/season
leggo

Dority:  62 3pters in 32 games
  NEEDS:  9 to make top 10 3pts/season

FTM, season--from 10th to 5th in a (below-average) night!?!
1.   Bruce Lindner ('70) 177
2.   Dick Jones ('67) 166
t3.   Fran Clements ('62) 142
t3.    Ed Eckart ('57) 142
T5. LVD 139
t5.   Bruce Lindner ('69) 139
t5.    Dan Oppland ('04) 139

BLOX, season
1. soph Raitis 67
2. jr Raitis 66
3. GUEYE 64
4. VASHIL 58

Also, here's where Peters would be all-time if he scored no more points this year and only scored the same number each year.
5. Raitis 1621 pts
6. Peters 1604 pts
7. Rowdy 1591 pts

If he scored 18 more he'd be on pace to pass Lubos for 4th.  JUST SAYIN'


JUST WIN AND ADVANCE BABY

FUN FACT TIME People say that we were better at TOs when Bryce was here, but what game was our worst since 1997?


doo DOO doo doo doo DOO doooooo (jeopardy.mp3)

...

time's up. 

FORTY-ONE PERCENT against Purdue in B-Drew's senior year.  Lost by 17.

Yes, that's right.  More than 2 out of 5 possessions ended in a turnover that year.  Only time we've broken the 40% rate in the last 17 years.

Real fact: Didn't Bryce sit out that Purdue game because he was hurt.....

Quote from: Chairback on March 04, 2014, 09:41:03 PMReal fact: Didn't Bryce sit out that Purdue game because he was hurt.....

CORRECT!

One of 2 games he missed that year.  Anyone know the other?

I thought chef would be the only one to notice.  a tip of the cap.

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on March 04, 2014, 10:05:37 PMOne of 2 games he missed that year.  Anyone know the other?

Against an NAIA school from Indiana that beat Valpo, I believe in an exhibition game. Was it Grace? Or Bethel? Or Goshen?

Didn't Bryce miss the Stanford game his senior year as well?  I recall wanting that rematch with Bryce if we had pulled out the win against Rhode Island.

Also, the talk of the TOs and history reminded me of a game, and I'm not sure if it was Smith's last year as coach or Homer's first, but around that time.  We had a game with 40 turnovers.  A TO a minute, baby.

Sounds like a game against Huggins Univ Cincy game in like 1989 at the then new Shoe in Cincy. That was an ugly, ugly game.

Quote from: valpo84 on March 05, 2014, 01:36:18 PM
Sounds like a game against Huggins Univ Cincy game in like 1989 at the then new Shoe in Cincy. That was an ugly, ugly game.

Corrected to Feb 25, 1991. Final 90-47. Could not find a box score easily. Maybe Aaron has one laying around....

Quote from: justducky on February 11, 2014, 09:52:47 PM

Quote from: talksalot on February 11, 2014, 07:58:05 PMI wonder what his brother Mike is Opp to?

:banghead:

Quote from: wh on February 11, 2014, 09:05:31 PM

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 11, 2014, 08:18:11 PM

Quote from: talksalot on February 11, 2014, 07:58:05 PMExcept in 2008-09, when we only managed 1,901.

I propose a 3-month ban for anyone bringing up that season ;)

Unless it's to show how much an aberration it is.

Thanks for the updates!

Logan Jones recruiting video:

Logan playing basketball (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB9Zb-RLU80#)

Probably we should have followed him a little longer before we offered...  ;)

I thought about bringing up Logan Jones too but at least I managed to restrain the impulse. Like I said a few years back I suspected that we might have been making a mistake with that recruitment when I saw the reaction  ??? of a Madison resident to the VU interest in him. I hope Milan doesn't catch wind that we are again talking about his favorite player.

For the record that was the one and only season that I watched more girls games than guys and it wasn't even close.

I caught it...wish I didn't but I did. Painful, just painful. Thanks  :'(

Quote from: valpo84 on March 05, 2014, 01:57:17 PM

Quote from: valpo84 on March 05, 2014, 01:36:18 PM
Sounds like a game against Huggins Univ Cincy game in like 1989 at the then new Shoe in Cincy. That was an ugly, ugly game.

Corrected to Feb 25, 1991. Final 90-47. Could not find a box score easily. Maybe Aaron has one laying around....

Yeah, I remember that game.  It wasn't pretty, that is for sure.  I also remember some schmoozing alumni had to go sit with the team at Homer's invite and left me with a future sportswriter! ;)

For some reason the game I'm remembering with 40 TOs had Todd Smith on the team. 

Dority:  527 pts in 33 games (16 ppg)
  NEEDS:  38 pts to make top 10 pts/season

Dority:  63 3pters in 33 games
  NEEDS:  9 to make top 10 3pts/season

FTM, season
1.   Bruce Lindner ('70) 177
2.   Dick Jones ('67) 166
3. LVD 144
t4.   Fran Clements ('62) 142
t4.    Ed Eckart ('57) 142

BLOX, season
t1. GUEYE 67
t1. soph Raitis 67
3. jr Raitis 66
4. VASHIL 58

Also, here's where Peters would be all-time if he scored no more points this year and only scored the same number each following year.
3. Oppland 1780 pts
4. Peters 1676 pts
5. Lubos 1675 pts

If he scored 27 more this year he'd be on pace to pass Tracey Gipson for 2nd.  JUST SAYIN'

THERE IS NO FUN FACT TIME AFTER NO FUN LIKE THAT GAME

BUT THERE CAN BE FUN TOOTING OF OWN HORN: EMPHASIS ADDED

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Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on May 16, 2013, 09:10:13 AMHis 52 blocks last year would put Gueye right at #6 for Valpo.

At Alabama, he averaged a block every 10.3 minutes.  Playing 20.6 minutes for Valpo and playing every game would give him 68 blocks, which would be...let's see -- oh look! -- the top season ever at Valpo.  4-5 more would put him in the top 10 ever.  In one season.

How dare they mortgage our future!!!1!

Lubos is the one with 1675, not Raitis. Bryce missed games against Purdue and Bethel. He did then play versus Stanford in Hilo, and was named MVP in the tournament, even though we went 2-1, with a 3-pt loss to Stanford. The Cardinal went to the final four that season with a dramatic last second comeback versus Rhode Island.

Quote from: chef on March 08, 2014, 12:10:43 PMLubos is the one with 1675, not Raitis

Good catch!  I did have Raitis as the 1621 before :)

and i KNEW you'd be the only one to get the other BD miss, although historyman came REALLY close.

Dority:  535 pts in 34 games (16 ppg)
  NEEDED:  30 pts to make top 10 pts/season
AND SOME OF THOSE WOULD HAVE COME IN HANDY TONIGHT[/i][/color]

Dority:  63 3pters in 33 games
  NEEDED:  8 to make top 10 3pts/season
DITTO

FTM, season
1.   Bruce Lindner ('70) 177
2.   Dick Jones ('67) 166
3. LVD 145
t4.   Fran Clements ('62) 142
t4.    Ed Eckart ('57) 142

BLOX, season
1. GUEYE 71
2. soph Raitis 67
3. jr Raitis 66
4. VASHIL 58

AARGH ONE MORE and Gueye would be in the top 10 all time.  After one year.  Oh well.  At least he'll be in the top 10 seasons until the Second Coming (and I don't mean Bryce Drew III).

Also, here's where Peters would be all-time if he only scored the same number of points each following year.
3. Oppland 1780 pts
4. Peters 1732 pts
5. Lubos 1675 pts

eh...that's it for tonight. 

Not so much to go on this year...at least not yet.  Here's a mid-game update from Drake.

Since Vashil has been the one to absorb most of the "let's dis Moussa" disparagement:

Blox, career
5. Harry Bell 1984-88 94
t6.  VASHIL 90
t6. Morris Smith 1979-81 90

He started the year t10 at 72.  Has 18 halfway through the 2nd half today.  Will not catch Raitis but should pass Zoran for #2 all time.

Not bad for 3 years.

And he's started making FTs too!
This year: 15-24 (62.5%)
Last year: 47.7%
Soph: 28.6% (cut to Ben Wallace, shaking head sadly)

I never knew that Vashil was a fellow Texan.  That explains why I like him so much :).

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/57413/vashil-fernandez (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/57413/vashil-fernandez)

That...man, ESPN.  I remember they said that E'Twaun Moore was from East Chicago, IL.

Vashil was 13th in the country in blocks before tonight.

and Vashil is now at  94 with 22 on the season stat sheet... T5 with Harry Bell

looking up the ladder...
Broekhoff 100
Gomes 111
Zoran 127
Raitis 228

Blox, career
3. Joaquin Gomes 2000-04 111
4. Rowdy 2009-13 100
5. VASHIL 96
6.  Harry Bell 1984-88 94

Also, on pace to shatter Moose's record for season blocks (71); 2.4 pg over the 32 games we're guaranteed would be 77, roughly.

And would leave him alone in 2nd behind Raitis (228).

Raitis rules the paint, and interesting fact, holds the VU men's basketball record for porn watched during daylight hours, and having no shame watching it while you are in the room :lol:

Quote from: valpotx on December 10, 2014, 12:25:59 AM
Raitis rules the paint, and interesting fact, holds the VU men's basketball record for porn watched during daylight hours, and having no shame watching it while you are in the room :lol:

(http://i6.tiesraides.lv/800x0s/pictures/2012-03-27/2012-03-27_img_lrytas_lt.jpg)



Why are you smiling so much today, Raitis?

I saw woman eating Latvian hot sausage.

serious hot sausage export from latvia.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=LATVIAN%20sausage (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=LATVIAN%20sausage)

Blox, career
3. Joaquin Gomes 2000-04 111
t4. VASHIL 100
t4. Rowdy 2009-13 100

At this rate, he might catch Raitis after all.

Which would be good, because it's really hard to take him seriously now.  (thanks tx)

ALSO SUPER BONUS FT UPDATE
This year: 23-34 (67.6%)
Last year: 47.7%
Soph: 28.6% (cut to Dennis Rodman, shaking head sadly)

Hahaha, good stuff.  He lived with a baseball teammate of mine across the hall from me during my/his JR year of school in Berg.  You'd walk in there and just hang out, and he'd be sitting on his laptop watching away with some big headphones on, like it was just any other TV show :).  Run lived next door to him, so maybe he heard the full cinema experience at night, when headphones weren't needed?

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on November 28, 2014, 06:28:35 PMAnd he's started making FTs too!
This year: 15-24 (62.5%)

It's a start, but if I remember well he started last season pretty well too.

He seems to have eliminated last year's (intentional? rhythm building?) shimmy, but against New Mexico it seemed like he was getting some weird motion on the ball, sort of side spin?

It seems like he's definitely been working hard on it, for years!  Best of luck to him, certainly.

Quote from: agibson on December 11, 2014, 10:48:32 AM

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on November 28, 2014, 06:28:35 PMAnd he's started making FTs too!
This year: 15-24 (62.5%)

It's a start, but if I remember well he started last season pretty well too.

He seems to have eliminated last year's (intentional? rhythm building?) shimmy, but against New Mexico it seemed like he was getting some weird motion on the ball, sort of side spin?

It seems like he's definitely been working hard on it, for years!  Best of luck to him, certainly.

Non-Con: 21-35 (0.600) in 14 games
Conference: 17-43 (0.395) in 16 games (including an 0-7 performance vs. UIC)
Post Season: 3-8    (0.375) in 3 games (0-4 in conference tourney, 3-4 vs. Columbia)

Hm...you're right...perhaps the conference affects his confidence?





for no reason:
(http://rs2img.memecdn.com/i-see-what-you-did-there_o_737797.jpg)

Quote from: valpotx on December 10, 2014, 10:58:03 PM
Hahaha, good stuff.  He lived with a baseball teammate of mine across the hall from me during my/his JR year of school in Berg.  You'd walk in there and just hang out, and he'd be sitting on his laptop watching away with some big headphones on, like it was just any other TV show :).  Run lived next door to him, so maybe he heard the full cinema experience at night, when headphones weren't needed?

I definitely heard it. I just didn't think anything of it because I wasn't always in my room to focus on the noise. Though Raitis did get upset with me for my inability to be a track god on the Power Pad Track and Field Nintendo game. I was embarrassed.

Blox, career
3. Joaquin Gomes 2000-04 111
4. VASHIL 102

Alone in 4th!  (Sorry, Rowdy.  You're probably the shortest person in the top 10, man.)

Blox, career
2. Zoran 1996-2000 127
3. VASHIL 116
4. Joaquin Gomes 2000-04 111

At this rate he'll be there before conference, and could catch Raitis if he keeps averaging 7 a game.  So.  There's that.

breaking news:  Vashil leads the nation with 44 blocks.

(before that one dude complains again, his average of 3.1 pg has him 12th.  and as a riposte, his block PERCENTAGE has him 4th.  in the nation.)

At 44 for the season, he needs 4 against JMU to move into the top 10 for best VU seasons.

And conference hasn't even started yet.

he's also first in the conference in plus/minus and roland ratings, AND offensive rebound percentage.

any more complaints about The 'Shil?

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 21, 2014, 08:56:09 PM
breaking news:  Vashil leads the nation with 44 blocks.

(before that one dude complains again, his average of 3.1 pg has him 12th.  and as a riposte, his block PERCENTAGE has him 4th.  in the nation.)

At 44 for the season, he needs 4 against JMU to move into the top 10 for best VU seasons.

And conference hasn't even started yet.

he's also first in the conference in plus/minus and roland ratings, AND offensive rebound percentage.

any more complaints about The 'Shil?

Ya! How come he couldn't have played half of this good last season?  ???

Luke Gore noted on the postgame that more than just blocking shots he keeps the ball in play rather than swatting it out of bounds.

Quote from: justducky on December 21, 2014, 09:05:17 PM

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 21, 2014, 08:56:09 PM
breaking news:  Vashil leads the nation with 44 blocks.

(before that one dude complains again, his average of 3.1 pg has him 12th.  and as a riposte, his block PERCENTAGE has him 4th.  in the nation.)

At 44 for the season, he needs 4 against JMU to move into the top 10 for best VU seasons.

And conference hasn't even started yet.

he's also first in the conference in plus/minus and roland ratings, AND offensive rebound percentage.

any more complaints about The 'Shil?

Ya! How come he couldn't have played half of this good last season?  ???

Well, because he has truly been the definition of "a work in progress".  The level of progress has been very predictable even when considering the number of minutes played.

His FG% has increased each year, as has his FT%, rebounds, scoring average, and of course, blocks.  More importantly, without Moussa, his need, to be able to stay on the floor, has increased and he has responded accordingly.

We have three guys on track for all conference awards if they can keep playing at this level.  Let's all hope so...

Odds n'ends:
vashil: 44 blox
rest of team: 29

At 19 ppg Alec is on pace for 608, or the 5th best season of all time. 
10 more points would leave him 3rd -- he would pass sr and jr Bryce.

Alec is also on pace for 94 3FG this year, which would tie him for second with sr Bryce and leave him 6 behind jr Bryce. 
50.6% (can he keep that up? ...do you want to bet against him?) would only be the 2nd best season at valpo (and if you said Lance "The Mask" Barker, I'll treat you to a cold one at McNamara's Cuckoo Club...wait, it what?).

Keith Carter on pace for 52 or 53 steals, which would be the 9th or 8th best season (the latter would tie him with sr Bryce--his high-water mark!)

It probably won't last, but we have 8 players averaging 20 minutes or more.  We've never had that; at least as far back as  I can check (2001-02).  Last year we had 4; Rowdy's sr. yr 6; 2012 & 2005 7, but not 8.

I guess the rotation's pretty well set in stone :)  not every day you have a 9 man rotation, but it looks like we will.  E-Victor is trending up at 13.4 too, so we'll see.  It seems like every conference year there's a change in the rotation at some point (case in point being jordan coleman last year), so stay tuned.

speaking of upward trends, it was noted that we are playing 3 non-D1s this year when normally we do 2.  That seemed wrong to me, so I checked and this is the second straight year we've played 3 non-D1s!  Of course, year before that, Rowdy's sr. year (can we think of something else to call it?  that's catchy?  catchier than '2012-13'?) we only played 1, so maybe that evens out.  Consistently 2 before then, though.

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 21, 2014, 08:56:09 PM
breaking news:  Vashil leads the nation with 44 blocks.

Huh?  What about the guy from washington?

E-Victor is trending up at 13.4 too, so we'll see.

The goal was for Nickerson to be healthy by the time conference play rolled around. Playing two games in less than 24 hours for a total of 32 minutes this weekend seemed to be an indication as to how far he has progressed. With one more non-conference game and about two weeks before the conference schedule starts, he appears to be nearing his destination at the end of the road to full recovery. I look forward to seeing his play when he gets there! 


(http://i62.tinypic.com/296fxic.jpg)

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 21, 2014, 10:13:49 PMOf course, year before that, Rowdy's sr. year (can we think of something else to call it?  that's catchy?  catchier than '2012-13'?) we only played 1, so maybe that evens out.  Consistently 2 before then, though.

The Year of "The Shot II?"

Quote from: agibson on December 21, 2014, 11:26:44 PM
Huh?  What about the guy from washington?

welp.  i was just going by what stat sheet said, but you're right, dude from wash has one more block.

alec peters 8th in NCAA in 3FGM AND has the highest percentage of all the top 14. 

tied for 33 in PPG.  the only other person playing as few minutes as he does among the leaders is ETSU's Riley with an identical 26.9 mpg (you remember he got 27 against us even though he's no bigger'n a minit); the rest of the top 100 all have more than 28 mpg, although most are well over 30.

47th in ORtg, 9th in pts/40.

he's pretty good you guys

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 22, 2014, 07:44:20 AM

Quote from: agibson on December 21, 2014, 11:26:44 PM
Huh?  What about the guy from washington?

welp.  i was just going by what stat sheet said, but you're right, dude from wash has one more block.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=robert-upshaw&p1=vashil-fernandez (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=robert-upshaw&p1=vashil-fernandez)

Amazing the number of projects and unknowns Valpo seems to bring in that work. Vashil is well on his way to have one of the strongest, if not the best defensive season in VU history. He takes away the easiest buckets around the rim, has been able to pull down rebounds, take care of the ball, and stay out of foul trouble (for the most part). He should be front-runner for defensive player of the year in the HL. Not many players can take away a whole dimension of the game like Vashil has been able to this season. I would imagine he'll keep these strong numbers up in the HL, a guard heavy league. Last season he played great defensively in league play and there's been nothing to change my mind this season. It'll be fun to watch him shut down guys like Hain and Petros, while KC takes away the scoring of Sykes and Howard, while Vashil is a vacuum on the inside. There's no secret to why we have one of the best defenses in the HL, KC's on-ball pressure with Vashil clogging up the inside. Forces teams to take low-percentage outside shots.

KC and Vashil, as of now, are 2 of the top 5 defenders in the league.

Quote from: wh on December 22, 2014, 08:18:58 AM

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 22, 2014, 07:44:20 AM

Quote from: agibson on December 21, 2014, 11:26:44 PM
Huh?  What about the guy from washington?

welp.  i was just going by what stat sheet said, but you're right, dude from wash has one more block.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=robert-upshaw&p1=vashil-fernandez (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=robert-upshaw&p1=vashil-fernandez)

yeah, stat sheet hasn't updated upshaw's stats yet.  espn giving him 45 now

I should note that when projecting stats for the season, I assume 32 games--12-2 plus JMU, 16 conference games, and the 1 playoff game we're guaranteed.

Obviously I hope we get more.  But won't assume.

Blox, career
2. Zoran 1996-2000 127
3. VASHIL 120

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 29, 2014, 07:48:43 PM
Blox, career
2. Zoran 1996-2000 127
3. VASHIL 120

Just think what might have been if Vashil could have played 4 years. The NCAA sure screwed up a possible blocks record for Vashil.

Vashil is now T2!

Blox, career
1. Raitis 1999-2003 228
t2. VASHIL 127
t2. Zoran 1996-2000 127

(http://i.imgur.com/nfcUBLI.png)

Blox, season
4. Jr Vashil 58
t5. Sr Raitis 57 (haha senioritis)
t5. Sr Mo Kone 57 (he dominated)
6.  SR VASHIL 55

Vashil now has 56 blocks this season

no

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-men/d1/current/individual/138 (http://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-men/d1/current/individual/138)

http://hln.s3.amazonaws.com/sports/statfiles/2/stats.pdf?1420774889 (http://hln.s3.amazonaws.com/sports/statfiles/2/stats.pdf?1420774889)

http://files.streamlinetechnologies.com/valpoathletics/9DE577C9-EC1C-4F8C-988F-6D5E9FE31CD7/TEAMCUME.HTM (http://files.streamlinetechnologies.com/valpoathletics/9DE577C9-EC1C-4F8C-988F-6D5E9FE31CD7/TEAMCUME.HTM)

The NCAA, the Horizon League and Valpo all say he has 56.

i see your links and i raise you
stat sheet
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/valparaiso/vashil-fernandez (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/valparaiso/vashil-fernandez)
and espn
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/57413/vashil-fernandez (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/57413/vashil-fernandez)
and bbstate
http://www.bbstate.com/teams/VALP/stats/raw (http://www.bbstate.com/teams/VALP/stats/raw)

Quote from: vusupporter on January 09, 2015, 09:36:52 PMThe NCAA, the Horizon League and Valpo all say he has 56.

the ncaa link you posted says 52.

also my links have game-by-game stats.  i was hoping yours would too so i could go through the whole season and compare.  #excitingfridaynights

(http://i.imgur.com/qHs2bi5.png)

Doesn't seem like that NCAA link was updated with last game, since it has him with 17 GP/52 blocks.  Anyways, I would guess NCAA/league/school trumps third-party sites. *shrug*

yeah i would too, but to me, the game-by-game is more plausible....it's like your algebra teacher would say "show your work".

(I think even if he had had 56 I still would have said 55 so I could use the T2 thing : )

The best link is, of course,


(http://travsd.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/lancelot_link_secret_chimp-show.jpg)

So cute.

Valpo's site lists 56 as vusupporter mentioned.  That has to be the most accurate.  Once again, love correcting Saders :):

http://files.streamlinetechnologies.com/valpoathletics/9DE577C9-EC1C-4F8C-988F-6D5E9FE31CD7/TEAMCUME.HTM (http://files.streamlinetechnologies.com/valpoathletics/9DE577C9-EC1C-4F8C-988F-6D5E9FE31CD7/TEAMCUME.HTM)

Actually, it could also be the most biased.

EDIT:  tracked down the VU game by game (that is, Valpo's account).  Remember, VU says 56 while the ESPN group says 55.

...whoo boy, this will not be easy.

First discrepancy:  VU credits him with 6 for Maine, ESPN etc. 5.

Next:  VU credits him with 3 for Portland, ESPN for 4.  So tied again.

Those are the only discrepancies.

So the problem is one of addition, since they add, not the same set of numbers, but the same numeric equivalents (i.e. 6+3=5+4).

The answer is, for some reason, 56:  ESPN etc.'s numbers add up to 56, but they claim 55. 
(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/3e/bd/15/3ebd156f6119a18c2f1d2077916d4f4d.jpg)

UPDATE VASHIL NOW #2 #officiallyofficial

UPDATE:  VASHIL JUST GOT OVER HIS SENIORAITIS
3.  JR Raitis 66
t4. SR VASHIL 58
t4. Jr Vashil 58

So...he's fit to be tied.  (unlike Moussa, who was fit to be Tide.)  HEYO

Anyway, he has as many as all last year...and he has at least 13 more games.  If he averages 7 a game, he'll catch RAITIS...

Let's see... going into action today... there a handful of teams in D1 with 15 wins.

Wisconsin - 15-1, plays tomorrow against Rutgers
Kentucky - 15 -0 after a win today
Notre Dame is now 15-1 after losing today
Gonzaga ... got win #16 this afternoon (15-1 D-1, plus win over Thomas Aquinas)

and let's see... who am I missing...  oh yeh... VALPARAISO UNIVERSITY 16-3   Tied for #1 for most wins in the country...

From the NCAA website... through 1/9/15...

1 Virginia 14 0 100.0
  Kentucky 14 0 100.0
  Duke 14 0 100.0
4 Wisconsin 15 1 93.8
  Notre Dame 15 1 93.8
  Gonzaga 15 1 93.8
7 Villanova 14 1 93.3
  Arizona 14 1 93.3
  Louisville 14 1 93.3
  West Virginia 14 1 93.3
11 Old Dominion 13 1 92.9
12 Central Mich. 11 1 91.7
13 Maryland 14 2 87.5
  Colorado St. 14 2 87.5
  Wyoming 14 2 87.5
16 TCU 13 2 86.7
  Wichita St. 13 2 86.7
  Utah 13 2 86.7
  UNI 13 2 86.7
20 Kansas 12 2 85.7
  Arkansas 12 2 85.7
  Dayton 12 2 85.7
23 Iowa St. 11 2 84.6
24 Valparaiso 15 3 83.3

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on January 10, 2015, 08:01:43 AMThe answer is, for some reason, 56:  ESPN etc.'s numbers add up to 56, but they claim 55. 

So you now admit you were WRONG?

I'm going to send this to your wife. She will probably die laughing.  :lol:

nope!  ESPN was wrong duh

Record for "Longest Post on a FanZone Thread"

Poster: bbtds
Thread: "where in the world is/was"
Date: January 10th

C'mon that was a copy/paste job!

Quote from: Smj on January 11, 2015, 07:28:58 AMRecord for "Longest Post on a FanZone Thread" Poster: bbtds Thread: "where in the world is/was" Date: January 10th

Wrong!  We've seen some much longer posts before. You guys are getting pretty silly.

OK... back to the "Record Watch".  (Rolex).... but seriously folks...

Lets talk Defense.   Through 19 games this year, we've only given up 1,151 points.  60.58 oppg   The last time we were that low?     1951-52   58.04 oppg; 1,393 for the entire 24-game season.

Lets talk Offense.  Through 19 games this year, we've scored, 1,398 points.  73.58 ppg.  The last time we were that high was 2005-06 with 78.76 for the year.

I know you are just dying to know:   
We're scored 155,129 points over the lifetime.  Given up 152,824.  A difference of .9431 points per game
We won 1,277 games and lost 1,167 games

Lifetime VU Coaching wins

Drew, Homer  371
Christiansen   102  (1929/30 - 1940/41)
Bartow            93
Ellis                 87  (1941/42 - 1946/47)
Smith, Tom      84
Drew, Bryce     82

Quote from: talksalot on January 11, 2015, 08:07:33 PM
OK... back to the "Record Watch".  (Rolex).... but seriously folks...

Lets talk Defense.   Through 19 games this year, we've only given up 1,151 points.  60.58 oppg   The last time we were that low?     1951-52   58.04 oppg; 1,393 for the entire 24-game season.

Lets talk Offense.  Through 19 games this year, we've scored, 1,398 points.  73.58 ppg.  The last time we were that high was 2005-06 with 78.76 for the year.

I know you are just dying to know:   
We're scored 155,129 points over the lifetime.  Given up 152,824.  A difference of .9431 points per game
We won 1,277 games and lost 1,167 games

Lifetime VU Coaching wins

Drew, Homer  371
Christiansen   102  (1929/30 - 1940/41)
Bartow            93
Ellis                 87  (1941/42 - 1946/47)
Smith, Tom      84
Drew, Bryce     82

Would be better to know over how many seasons for all of them.

Nope not helpful

How many GAMES would be, howeva

I respectfully disagree  ;)

Bartow's 93 wins over 13 seasons averages out to just over 7 wins a season -- terrible.  Oh, wait. He was only at Valpo for 6 seasons.  That's 15+ games per season.  Much better.

But I could also go for the overall games coached vs. wins.  Bartow according to the Valpo Athletic site records has a 92-70 W/L record.

Tom Smith, on the other hand, had 84 wins. Over 4 seasons that would be 21 wins preseason,  But wait (again) he was here for 8 seasons, so his wins per season was half that -- 10.5.  His overall record was 84-138.

I like Bryce.  82 wins.  Over 3.6 seasons = 22.7 wins per season.  Pretty cool.  82-39 overall.  Either way you cut it it is helpful.  Actually I REALLY like Bryce.  Scary, with those numbers, he might not be around much longer.  Geez, I hope he stays at least this season and the next two.

Quote from: VULB#62 on January 11, 2015, 09:14:50 PMDrew, Homer  371
Christiansen   102  (1929/30 - 1940/41)
Bartow            93
Ellis                 87  (1941/42 - 1946/47)
Smith, Tom      84
Drew, Bryce     82

                     WINS   LOSSES    %           SEASONS                                                                       
Homer:         371       305         54.88%   (1988/89-2010/11)- (Minus 2002/03)   
Christiansen   102       108        48.57%    (1929/30 - 1940/41)
Bartow           93          69        57.41%    (1964/65 - 1969/70 )
Ellis                 87          60        59.18%    (1941/42 - 1946/47)
Smith, Tom     84        138        37.84%    (1980/81 - 1987/88)
Drew, Bryce     82         38        68.33%     (2011/12 - Infinity and Beyond)

Winningest coaches by W-L%:

Shadoan 33-9    78.57%   1923-4 and 1924-5
Goheen  30-12  71.57%    1921-2 and 1922-3
Koegan  31-13  70.45%     1919-20 and 1920-1
Drew,B   82-38  68.33%     2011-present
Winters    8 - 4  66.67%     1917-8 and 1918-9
Drew, S   20-11  64.52%    2002-3


** For Bryce to get to the Shadoan % level...    if we won the next 57 games in a row... that would be 78.53% (139-38).... so we need 58 consecutive wins.

Thanks, that's very helpful.  I would think you need a minimum 50 games coached to be eligible for top win %, so BRYCE IT IS!

Quote from: talksalot on January 12, 2015, 09:43:29 AMKoegan  31-13  70.45%     1919-20 and 1920-1

George Keogan was not at Valpo for long but he did become a famous coach in three sports at a school about a one hour drive from Valpo.

George E. Keogan (March 8, 1890 – February 17, 1943) was an American football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football), basketball (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball), and baseball (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball) coach, most known for coaching University of Notre Dame (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Notre_Dame) from 1923 to 1943. Keogan never had a losing season in his 20 years at Notre Dame.

The Minnesota Lake, Minnesota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Lake,_Minnesota) native attended University of Minnesota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Minnesota) from 1909 to 1913. He began coaching high school varsities after his freshman year in college, guiding first Lockport High School (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockport_High_School) (1910–1911) followed by Riverside High School (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riverside-Brookfield_High_School) (1911–1912). Meanwhile he was also coaching several college basketball teams: Charles City College (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_City_College) in Iowa (1909–1910), Superior State Teachers College (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Wisconsin%E2%80%93Superior) in Wisconsin (1912–1914), Saint Louis University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Louis_University)(1914–15) and the University of St. Thomas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_St._Thomas_(Minnesota)) in St. Paul, Minnesota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Paul,_Minnesota) (1917–1918). During World War I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I) he served at Great Lakes Naval Training Station (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Lakes_Naval_Training_Station). After briefly coaching Allegheny College (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegheny_College) in Meadville, Pennsylvania (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meadville,_Pennsylvania) (1919–1920) and Valparaiso, Keogan arrived at University of Notre Dame. He served as head basketball and baseball coach, as well as assistant to the legendary football coach Knute Rockne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knute_Rockne). Keogan compiled a 327–96–1 at Notre Dame.

Keogan died on February 17, 1943 of a heart attack at his home in South Bend, Indiana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Bend,_Indiana).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Keogan#cite_note-1) After his death, Moose Krause (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moose_Krause) took over his job as Notre Dame's head basketball coach.

But I could also go for the overall games coached vs. wins.  Bartow according to the Valpo Athletic site records has a 92-70 W/L record.

Bartow   13*   12      *Includes a forfeit by Indiana State.  I added the forfeit twice, it was already in the totals.
Bartow   18   10
Bartow   21   8
Bartow   11   15
Bartow   16   12
Bartow   13   13
                92    70   is correct  56/79%

another odds n' ends, from a new Rex Ryan fan:

Vashil FT Soph:  28.6% (cut to Shaq shaking head sadly)
Vashil FT Junr:  47.7%
Vashil FT Senr:  63.5% (waves tiny flag)

Alec Peters
At 18.15 ppg Alec is on pace for 581, or the 6th best season of all time (down from 5). 
Two more games or so--34 more points--would leave him 3rd -- he would pass sr Tracy Gipson and sr and jr Bryce.

Alec is also on pace for 86 3FG this year, which would leave him 6th, down from a previously-forecast second with sr Bryce.
47.2% is still pretty good (you guys) and would be 5th.

Keith Carter ... I don't want to talk about it.  singletear.gif

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PREZENTS

Blox, season
1. Moussa 71
t2. Vashil 67
t2. soph Raitis 67

WHOOPS i modified the previous post instead of starting a new one. m'bad. i...i ran out of timeouts and panicked.

Vashil's still hanging around at #12 in the country for blocks per game, now with most players having significant statistics.  (#4 for blocks, which sounds better, but....)

Alec's fallen out of the top 50 for 3PT %.

Quote from: agibson on January 26, 2015, 12:11:23 PM
Vashil's still hanging around at #12 in the country for blocks per game, now with most players having significant statistics.  (#4 for blocks, which sounds better, but....)

Vashil's chances at leading the nation in blocked shots just got better. Washington's Robert Upshaw, the nation's leader in blocked shots, has been dismissed by his university.

Quote from: valpopal on January 26, 2015, 05:54:58 PMWashington's Robert Upshaw, the nation's leader in blocked shots, has been dismissed by his university.

would you say he's...been...reJECted?

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on January 26, 2015, 06:48:25 PM

Quote from: valpopal on January 26, 2015, 05:54:58 PMWashington's Robert Upshaw, the nation's leader in blocked shots, has been dismissed by his university.

would you say he's...been...reJECted?

He was smoking hot (or at least a word that rhymes with hot).


Washington Huskies junior 7-footer Robert Upshaw has been dismissed from the program for a violation of team rules, the school announced.

"We wish Rob well as he moves forward in his life, and we will do our best to support him in the future," Washington coach Lorenzo Romar said in a statement.

Upshaw, who transferred to UW from Fresno State, has failed multiple drug tests while at both schools, sources close to the situation told ESPN.

The ultra-talented big man averaged 10.9 points, 8.2 rebounds and 4.4 blocks per game for the Huskies and leads the nation in blocks.

Washington is coming off a loss at Utah on Sunday in which Upshaw scored 13 points, grabbed nine rebounds and blocked five shots. The Huskies (14-5, 3-4 Pac-12) will host Stanford on Wednesday.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12232892/washington-huskies-dismiss-robert-upshaw-program-violation-team-rules (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12232892/washington-huskies-dismiss-robert-upshaw-program-violation-team-rules)

In Things No One Predicted This Year, Vashil has the season block record ... before February. 

With 73 blocks, he has the record, but he's not going to pass Raitis for the all-time record (unless the NCAA wises up and finally gives him that extra year of eligibility).

So he's in block limbo.  73 blocks season (old record Moussa's 72) and 145 career (interestingly...had 72 in his previous two years...now has lapped himself, so to speak).  145 still far behind Raitis' 228, unless he starts averaging 8 a game.

So let's turn to other things.

Most points, first two seasons
1) Bryce, 912
2) Alec, 859 (speaking of passing self's entire previous career--almost! 433 last year, 426 this)

At his current rate of 17.8 ppg, Alec could tie or break this record with 3 more games.  Pace would give him 570 for the season, or the 8th best season ever.

Since slowing his torrid early pace, Alec's on pace for the 6th most 3s in a season, with 81 (61 now).  His current rate of 46.2% is good for 5th all-time, should it hold.

Most points, first two seasons
1) Bryce, 912
2) Alec, 871

Needing 129 pts to become the first player to score 1000 in his first 2 years, Alec needs one more game than the 7 we're guaranteed to get (although since we'll go to the postseason someplace, maybe we should start projecting based on 8) at his current rate of 17.5 ppg.

...Did you know that in the D1 era VU has only had 1 player score more than 20 ppt, and that only in one season?  Don't cheat by looking it up, but just think about it for a second...

3FG%, season
4) jr Casey Schmidt 47.7%
5) Alec, 46.3%
6) soph Scott Anselm, 46.1%

Was it Meyne?

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 05, 2015, 04:40:58 AMmore than 20 ppt

arrgh 20 PPG ...autocorrect...and what is ppt anyway? powerpoint? 

i would hope no one averages that many powerpoints.

nope not meyne.  nor yours.

OK, I cheated... won't spoil it...I do remember commenting when Bryce appeared on the scene... "He might just lead us to forget _________" and everyone laughed.

I know LAA was looking at single season numbers, but when I checked out his trivia question (I had no idea, talksalot was right and also I blame the fact that I was 5 when it happened) I saw something interesting with Alec's numbers.

3-POINT % Career (min 150 attempts)
1. Samuel Haanpää 2006-08 44.5%
2. Bryce Drew 1994-98 43.5%
Shawn Huff 2004-08 43.5%
6. Rob Cavanaugh 1990-94 42.3%
7. Alec Peters 2013-pres 42.1% (285 attempts)
8. Casey Schmidt 1992-94 41.0%
9. Mike Jones 1986-90 40.9%
10. Ryan Broekhoff 2009-13 40.8%

He's also 30 threes away from the career top 10 in 3PM made which could be hit this season, and once he has enough FTA (60 away, that'll be next season) he'll be #9 in FT%.

The 3 pt. line was moved back a foot beginning with the '08-09 season.

Quote from: wh on February 05, 2015, 03:39:10 PM
The 3 pt. line was moved back a foot beginning with the '08-09 season.

So really Rowdy and Alec should be ranked No. 1 and 2 as they are the only 2 on the list that shot(shoots) from further away!   ;)

Quote from: wh on February 05, 2015, 03:39:10 PM
The 3 pt. line was moved back a foot beginning with the '08-09 season.

i blame the recentered SAT

Quote from: Kyle321n on February 05, 2015, 02:56:06 PM
I know LAA was looking at single season numbers, but when I checked out his trivia question (I had no idea, talksalot was right and also I blame the fact that I was 5 when it happened) I saw something interesting with Alec's numbers.

3-POINT % Career (min 150 attempts)
1. Samuel Haanpää 2006-08 44.5%
2. Bryce Drew 1994-98 43.5%  VALPARAISO HIGH SCHOOL
Shawn Huff 2004-08 43.5%
6. Rob Cavanaugh 1990-94 42.3% VALPARAISO HIGH SCHOOL
7. Alec Peters 2013-pres 42.1% (285 attempts)
8. Casey Schmidt 1992-94 41.0%  VALPARAISO HIGH SCHOOL
9. Mike Jones 1986-90 40.9%  VALPARAISO HIGH SCHOOL
10. Ryan Broekhoff 2009-13 40.8%

Who are Nos. 4 & 5 ?

4. Lance Barker 1991-95 42.8%
5. Seth Colclasure 2002-06 42.6%

Lance Barker — One of the fastest players in the history of Columbus basketball, Barker used his speed to score, and that he did in abundance. He remains the school's all-time scoring leader. He graduated from East in 1991 with 1,755 points and later played at Valparaiso.

Seth Colclasure - 2004-2005: Finished third in the conference and led the Crusaders, shooting 45.2% from three-point land ... made 66 threes, fifth in Mid-Con and first on Crusaders ... second in conference in assist-turnover ratio, 2.54 ... sixth in Mid-Con in conference only assists, 4.25/game ... scored team-leading 15 points in win over Penn State ... tallied career-high 10 assists in win at Oakland ... had 18 points and seven assists at Chicago State ... scored career-high 20 points 1/24 against Oakland ... scored 13 points on perfect 5-5 shooting at UMKC.

NCAA Stats through 2/4/15:

Total Blocks

1 North Carolina 23 17-6 351 639 990
2 Valparaiso 25 21-4 299 671 970
3 Quinnipiac 21 11-10 339 603 942

Blocks for a person

1 Robert Upshaw, Washington So. 7-0 C Games:  19 Blocks  85
2 Vashil Fernandez, Valparaiso Sr. 6-10 F Games  25 Blocks  76
  Justin Tuoyo, Chattanooga So. 6-10 F Games  23 Blocks  76 But he picked up 2 more tonight in their win at Furman.


Total Rebounds:
1 North Carolina 23 17-6 OR  351  DR  639 total 990
2 Valparaiso 25 21-4       OR  299  DR  671 total 970
3 Quinnipiac 21 11-10     OR   339 DR  603 total 942

Overall W/L Percentage:

1 Kentucky 22 0 100.0
2 Gonzaga 22 1 95.7
3 Virginia 20 1 95.2
4 UNI 21 2 91.3
5 Villanova 20 2 90.9
  Wisconsin 20 2 90.9
  Arizona 20 2 90.9
8 Notre Dame 21 3 87.5
9 Wichita St. 20 3 87.0
10 Kansas 19 3 86.4
  Duke 19 3 86.4
  Louisville 19 3 86.4
13 Stephen F. Austin 18 3 85.7
14 Valparaiso 21 4 84.0

                                          ranking
Fewest Turnovers (355 ranked) 306 
Free-Throw Percentage (355 ranked) 239 
Fewest Fouls (355 ranked) 240 

It's pretty amazing to see what Vashil has done this season. Top 3 in the nation in blocked shots, one of the best defenders in the country, he has been sure handed this season, his offensive have increased as well.

I recall early in the season Ickow asked Coach Gore (I think it was Gore) who was most likely to be in the NBA, his response was Vashil. Will he be NBA ready next season? No. But the steps he has taken in his brief basketball career is pretty amazing. He still hasn't plateaued out, he is still improving and getting better day-by-day. In his 3 playing season he went from a little used guy sitting on the bench to a top-tier defender in the country. He does have NBA potential, he still needs to add more to his game but interior defense is always a plus to have.

Is he gonna be playing for the Bulls next season? No. After 3 to 4 seasons of playing basketball in Europe or elsewhere? Maybe.

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 05, 2015, 12:34:36 PMnope not meyne.

I'm recalling a player in the 1970's that came from a transfer or JC and was from SB LaSalle HS.  Richardson, Williams - I can't remember the name.  One of the first years of Valpo Div I basketball.  My other guess (without looking it up) would be Harry Bell. 

Quote from: covufan on February 06, 2015, 10:39:55 AM

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 05, 2015, 12:34:36 PMnope not meyne.

I'm recalling a player in the 1970's that came from a transfer or JC and was from SB LaSalle HS.  Richardson, Williams - I can't remember the name.  One of the first years of Valpo Div I basketball.  My other guess (without looking it up) would be Harry Bell. 

Was there a VU player in the late 1970's named Darrel Ashby? I thought he might have been from South Bend Adams.

Quote from: bbtds on February 06, 2015, 11:06:49 AM

Quote from: covufan on February 06, 2015, 10:39:55 AM

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 05, 2015, 12:34:36 PMnope not meyne.

I'm recalling a player in the 1970's that came from a transfer or JC and was from SB LaSalle HS.  Richardson, Williams - I can't remember the name.  One of the first years of Valpo Div I basketball.  My other guess (without looking it up) would be Harry Bell. 

Was there a VU player in the late 1970's named Darrel Ashby? I thought he might have been from South Bend Adams.

It was Ashby that I was most likely remembering.  He did attend SB Adams, and played four years at Valpo.  His 1247 points are still good for 17th on our all-time scoring list, passed by 12 that played after Ashby finished his career. 

After my earlier post, I had to look it up.  How soon we forget.  After Smith and before Homer's teams were competitive. 

Quote from: covufan on February 06, 2015, 11:17:08 AMIt was Ashby that I was most likely remembering.  He did attend SB Adams, and played four years at Valpo.  His 1247 points are still good for 17th on our all-time scoring list, passed by 12 that played after Ashby finished his career. 

http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/45574404/ (http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/45574404/)

Now I know why I remember Ashby so well. When I was in grade school I went to the Valpo HS games vs North Judson and SB Adams at the regional tournament at Notre Dame in 1974 with a relative. Daryl Ashby was by far the star of the Adams Eagles who lost to Valpo High in the Saturday night championship game. I also remember attending the semi-state games at Purdue but I don't remember who Valpo High played against. When I heard Ashby was going to Valpo U it was really exciting for a kid like me.

Quote from: bbtds on February 06, 2015, 11:28:14 AM

Quote from: covufan on February 06, 2015, 11:17:08 AMIt was Ashby that I was most likely remembering.  He did attend SB Adams, and played four years at Valpo.  His 1247 points are still good for 17th on our all-time scoring list, passed by 12 that played after Ashby finished his career. 

http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/45574404/ (http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/45574404/)

Now I know why I remember Ashby so well. When I was in grade school I went to the Valpo HS games vs North Judson and SB Adams at the regional tournament at Notre Dame in 1974 with a relative. Daryl Ashby was by far the star of the Adams Eagles who lost to Valpo High in the Saturday night championship game. I also remember attending the semi-state games at Purdue but I don't remember who Valpo High played against. When I heard Ashby was going to Valpo U it was really exciting for a kid like me.

Vincennes in the afternoon (featuring Mark Price) and Lafayette Jeff in the evening.

Boy do I remember that regional.  That was something else.  The only SB Adams guy I remembered though was Glen Sudhop.

Quote from: StlVUFan on February 06, 2015, 01:01:46 PM

Quote from: bbtds on February 06, 2015, 11:28:14 AM

Quote from: covufan on February 06, 2015, 11:17:08 AMIt was Ashby that I was most likely remembering.  He did attend SB Adams, and played four years at Valpo.  His 1247 points are still good for 17th on our all-time scoring list, passed by 12 that played after Ashby finished his career. 

http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/45574404/ (http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/45574404/)

Now I know why I remember Ashby so well. When I was in grade school I went to the Valpo HS games vs North Judson and SB Adams at the regional tournament at Notre Dame in 1974 with a relative. Daryl Ashby was by far the star of the Adams Eagles who lost to Valpo High in the Saturday night championship game. I also remember attending the semi-state games at Purdue but I don't remember who Valpo High played against. When I heard Ashby was going to Valpo U it was really exciting for a kid like me.

Vincennes in the afternoon (featuring Mark Price) and Lafayette Jeff in the evening.

Boy do I remember that regional.  That was something else.  The only SB Adams guy I remembered though was Glen Sudhop.

Oh yeah, Glen Sudhop. Ended up at NC or NC State, didn't he? It sure was a big man's game back then. Feed it to the post and he gets fouled or just slips it over the top of the rim.

If I remember correctly, Daryl graduated in 1978, the year before Valpo went Div 1.  He is pictured along with his team in a large photo mounted in Hilltop.

Any one know what he is doing to day. (Daryl Ashby)

Quote from: humbleopinion on February 06, 2015, 02:12:27 PM
If I remember correctly, Daryl graduated in 1978, the year before Valpo went Div 1.  He is pictured along with his team in a large photo mounted in Hilltop.

That makes sense. Ashby played for Ken Rochlitz. Life was rough for Valpo and Rochlitz. Dick Koenig was adamant that Valpo move into Div. I (University Division). It did eventually bring Homer Drew and son Bryce here.

Quote from: VUfan on February 06, 2015, 03:24:21 PM
Any one know what he is doing to day. (Daryl Ashby)

From info on the internet with places of residence it seems that Daryl L Ashby of South Bend and Chicago, 59 years old, well known/or relative to Cheryl Childs, current address in Chicago. If you want to pay the fees you can find out more.

Quote from: bbtds on February 06, 2015, 01:32:21 PMOh yeah, Glen Sudhop. Ended up at NC or NC State, didn't he? It sure was a big man's game back then. Feed it to the post and he gets fouled or just slips it over the top of the rim.

Except, and I'm sure I'm repeating myself, on that night, little Billy Hart owned him in the paint, at least on defense.

Most points, first two seasons
1) Bryce, 912
2) Alec, 882

...Did you know that in the D1 era VU has only had 1 player score more than 20 ppg, and that only in one season?  Don't cheat by looking it up, but just think about it for a second... my favorite TRACY GIPSON, 21.3, 1992-93.

3FG%, season
4) jr Casey Schmidt 47.7%
5) Alec, 46.7%
6) soph Scott Anselm, 46.1%

3FG%, career
t6.  Alec, 42.3%
t6.  Rob Cavanaugh, 42.3%

(I'm sure they're not literally tied, but I can't find any of Rob's stats to break it down further.)

As an aside, Alec has 121 3s in his first 60 games.  At 2 a game, he's no threat to Bryce's record of 364.  Which is a lot of 3s.

He already has more rebounds than last year (167-164).  Roughly on pace to be #6 all-time.

And, oh yeah, points.  On pace to be #2.

But first things first.

TRIVIA! *WITHOUT LOOKING IT UP* who has VU's steals record?

I will go with Buggs since that's when I really started paying a little bit of attention.

Berdiel?

Isn't it funny?  Both are good guesses--Buggs is 6 and Berdiel 3--but neither correct.

I would be willing to wager that if you asked everyone who #1 is in pretty much every other category, they'd be right 95% of the time.

Steals is a funny thing though.

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 08, 2015, 07:00:20 PM
Isn't it funny?  Both are good guesses--Buggs is 6 and Berdiel 3--but neither correct.

I would be willing to wager that if you asked everyone who #1 is in pretty much every other category, they'd be right 95% of the time.

Steals is a funny thing though.

Is it  just me or is all the archived old past seasons records and information any longer available? A lot of good defenders come to mind but none seem to stand out. Jarod Loyd comes to mind but he didn't play much his freshman year and his senior year saw him come off the bench for maybe 24 minutes per game. I would think he would still be in the top ten. Brandon McPherson might also be surprisingly up there. He had the slight advantage of playing a few extra games before injury redshirting one season. I am just thinking out loud because I doubt that either would be the correct answer.

Stalin Ortiz, the Columbian? 

The only 2 that come to mind that haven't already been mentioned are Lubos and Bryce, although I can't picture either one being quick enough or aggressive enough on defense to our all time leader. 

If we are picking 2 then I would say Milo Stovall or Lubos Barton.

My guess is Lubos Barton. He is at the top of almost every stat and given his playing time over all four years he seems like the logical choice.

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Since people are asking various trivia questions, I will pose this one.

Assuming a minimum of 4 points scored in their first game, name the three Valpo players in the last 20 years that had their ultimate career high scoring game in their very first game at Valpo.

now that's a great question.  wow.

Tony Falu.

Ooof I think Jordan Coleman was one of those.

edit: nope, he had 15 in his first game of his junior year and 16 twice his senior year.

Quote from: vu84v2 on February 09, 2015, 10:05:34 AMAssuming a minimum of 4 points scored in their first game, name the three Valpo players in the last 20 years that had their ultimate career high scoring game in their very first game at Valpo.

Lubos Barton was one. Scored 27 in his first game, followed it up with 24 the next. Chased those numbers for the rest of his career.

I can't say that I had researched this question completely, though I am very confident that I have the right answers.  However, I had to go back and look at Falu.  He had 21 in his first game and only eclipsed it once. His best scoring game was 22 at Arizona.

It is not Jordan Coleman (I had to check that one too)

Lubos Barton is one.  27 points against South Carolina in November 1998 at the old RCA Dome in Indianapolis ("this place is bigger than Czech Airport")

Near record morning pace of activity indicated by multiple posts on a broad variety of topics (many useless)!

Hey its Monday morning so aren't you folks supposed to be working somewhere? If I were your boss I would be signing so many termination checks that I might need some extra pens!

even if i weren't on vacation i'm a church musician...i work weekends ;)

My work requires working lots of hours, but only a small portion of those working hours are at a set time.  Imagine working 60 hours per week, but 50 of them can be whenever you want them to be.

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OK, Try this one.  How many times has Valpo won more then 22 games in a season? What is the record for most wins in a season?  And special bonus points:  In the modern era (Homer Drew on) how many players have started every game in their freshman year?

dude, party foul.  there's a live question on the floor.

I GOT #2:

NATHAN STEGELMANN

book it

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 09, 2015, 04:33:47 PM
dude, party foul.  there's a live question on the floor.

I GOT #2:

NATHAN STEGELMANN

book it

Oh man... :(

Nathan Stegelmann is the second one. The intramural legend!

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-e27fTGVFVLg/T7XG6GjG-MI/AAAAAAAAAK0/xUYgq7Yhfbk/s1600/yes.jpg)

Raitis Grafs, what a stud player to be included in the top 10 in so many categories! 

My thinking too...and he has been passed thrice since graduating, meaning when he left he was 1 in bloc and 7 in steals? 

impresivo.

Anyone care to have a guess at the other players with a minimum of four points in their first game at Valpo, to have their points in their first game be their ultimate career high?  The other two were Lubos Barton and Nathan Stegelmann.  It is not Falu or Coleman, though both were very close to meeting this odd achievement.

The two-game sensation, Griffyn Carpenter?

Quote from: vusupporter on February 10, 2015, 12:43:30 PMThe two-game sensation, Griffyn Carpenter?

a one-game sensation, actually (unless you count the 1 minute against Duquesne)...but he fits the criteria, having logged 5 pts in that one game.

how 'bout it, 84?

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 10, 2015, 07:41:05 PM

Quote from: vusupporter on February 10, 2015, 12:43:30 PMThe two-game sensation, Griffyn Carpenter?

a one-game sensation, actually (unless you count the 1 minute against Duquesne)...but he fits the criteria, having logged 5 pts in that one game.

how 'bout it, 84?

10 seconds, which completely wrecked his career PPG.

Griffyn Carpenter was the third.  He and Stegelmann both played their first games against IU-Kokoma, a program playing its first year at any level.

I'm pretty sure Lubos actually surpassed his career high in the Mid-Con Tournament in his Sr. year. Although the 27 he scored in his debut at the Hoosier Dome did stand for nearly his entire career.

Quote from: chef on February 11, 2015, 02:32:16 AMI'm pretty sure Lubos actually surpassed his career high in the Mid-Con Tournament in his Sr. year.

only if you added the 3 games together (31 pts): 
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/valparaiso/lubos-barton/game_stats (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/valparaiso/lubos-barton/game_stats)

Now his JUNIOR year:  31 vs. Chicago St, so, asterisk? ; )

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/valparaiso/lubos-barton/game_stats?season=2000-2001&stat_type=1&game_type=1&chart1=minutes&chart2=points&chart3=assists&chart4=rebounds_total&chart5= (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/valparaiso/lubos-barton/game_stats?season=2000-2001&stat_type=1&game_type=1&chart1=minutes&chart2=points&chart3=assists&chart4=rebounds_total&chart5=)

Wow!  I am embarrassed.  Thank you for the correction Chef.

I'm equally embarrassed

Quote from: vu72 on February 09, 2015, 04:22:09 PM
OK, Try this one.  How many times has Valpo won more then 22 games in a season?

I think we can return to these now...

The second one is easy--Rowdy's senior year set the record with 26.  But more than 22?  Hmm...I would have to say ...just guessing years: 6?

Has to be more. This is the 4th time in five years for Valpo winning at least 22 (I think). Seems like a lot of 23 and 24 win seasons in the late 90's early 2000's, but I may be off and I'm too tired to look it up.

Yeah, I'm sure you're right; I didn't think they played enough games a year back in the day to be over 22, so I was just counting the last 20 years, but sometimes they did!

I looked it up, but I won't divulge...ok now someone guess because now it's killing me

I KNOW SOMETHING YOU DON'T KNOW

If we're saying D1 era only I would guess 8 seasons of 22+. If I remember correctly there was a stat Rowdy's senior year that it was the 10th 20+ win season in D1 history, but I might be misremembering.

I counted 8 total--only 1 pre-D1.

So you win!

If we keep winning basketball games, I'm not going to complain.

But, at some point, Alec's either going to have to have a couple of big games, or we're going to need to win a game in a post-season tourney, if he's going to break 1000.

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 13, 2015, 10:25:08 PM
I counted 8 total--only 1 pre-D1.

So you win!

Well done thou faithful servant!  Now, how many seasons with 23?

Well, I guess it's 9 though, now, right? ;)

Not a quiz... but on topic with a record WATCH....

Since the ARC opened in 1984...

Best Home Record:   14-0 in 1994-95
then by %:
2000-01  12-1
2002-03  12-1
2014-15  12-1 with more to play.

2007-08  13 wins (-4)
2010-11  13 wins (-4)
2011-12  14 wins (-3)
and the record is 16 wins (-2) in 2012-13.

Best we can do this year is 15 wins.

I probably should add:   10 WINS IN A ROW IN THE ARC

Quote from: talksalot on February 13, 2015, 10:47:22 PMon topic with a record WATCH....

me too
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$3 mil.

LAA - it took 2 years and 3 months to get your post on this string.  I've been waiting for it!

Quote from: vu72 on February 09, 2015, 04:22:09 PMIn the modern era (Homer Drew on) how many players have started every game in their freshman year?

We have to do this question...I would say Tracy Gipson, but I think he actually didn't start 2 games his freshman year and then started every game thereafter.

I will say:
Drew
Stovall
Barton
Grafs
and Oppland?

Gimme a haän here, paä.

Most points, first two seasons
1) Bryce, 912
2) Alec, 909

3FG%, season
4) jr Casey Schmidt 47.7%
5) Alec, 46.6%
6) soph Scott Anselm, 46.1%

3FG%, career
t6.  Alec, 42.3%
t6.  Rob Cavanaugh, 42.3%

(I'm sure they're not literally tied, but I can't find any of Rob's stats to break it down further.)

As an aside, Alec has 125 3s in his first 60 games.  Needs just 25 to make T10, career.

No trivia since there's still a live question on the floor.

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 15, 2015, 08:25:51 PM

Quote from: vu72 on February 09, 2015, 04:22:09 PMIn the modern era (Homer Drew on) how many players have started every game in their freshman year?

We have to do this question...I would say Tracy Gipson, but I think he actually didn't start 2 games his freshman year and then started every game thereafter.

I will say:
Drew
Stovall
Barton
Grafs
and Oppland?

Gimme a haän here, paä.

Alec obviously unless I'm misremembering senior night's starters last season.

Jamie Sykes, Eric Buggs, Matt Kenney?  I remember these guys are in the top 10 in games played for a career... figure they had to start somewhere.

Record watch:  TEAM DEFENSE

We have given up 1,693 points on the season.  that's 60.46 ppg.

That is the lowest opponent scoring since....   

1951-52... 58.04 oppg

Close to this figure:
2012-13:  62.32 over 34 games
1999-00:  62.69 over 32 games
2000-01:  63.72 over 32 games


TEAM POINT DIFFERENTIAL:
We've scored 2,019 points, or 72.11 ppg.  A Difference of 11.64 points per game.
Best since '65-'66 with a differential of 13.79 points per game.

2001-02 difference was 77.70 - 66.12 = 11.58 points per game
1944-45 difference was 55.21 - 44.04 = 11.17 points per game (record:  21-3)
1932-33 difference was 35.81 - 25.69 = 10.13 points per game (record:  14-2)
1920-21 difference was 33.04 - 21.04 = 12.00 points per game (record:  19-5)


BRYCE:   Record is 90-39.   Next up on the Total Coaching Wins:  #3 Gene Bartow... 92-70.

WINS AWAY FROM ARC:   7-3 Road and 5-0 Neutral Court... 12 wins.

1997-98:   15 - 2
2001-02:   13 - 7
2014-15:   12 - 3 (with at least 3 to play)
2000-01:   12 - 7
1995-96:   12 - 8
1998-99:   12 - 8

Quote from: talksalot on February 16, 2015, 07:39:38 AMWe have given up 1,693 points on the season.  that's 60.46 ppg. That is the lowest opponent scoring since....    1951-52... 58.04 oppg

I find it interesting that when we played Butler in the HL and the Bulldogs went to two national championship games some discussed the fact that Butler started their practices every season with emphasizing defense and not working at all on offense during those beginning of the season practices.

When Valpo turns a corner on success this season they are definitely also emphasizing defense. I'm sure that offense is given it's proper due amount of time but if a team doesn't start with defense I really don't believe there can be success.

TRIVIA QUESTION. What current VU player has the same name as a player on the 1998 ole miss team? Random but oh well.

Quote from: Valpofan00 on February 16, 2015, 10:42:22 PM
TRIVIA QUESTION. What current VU player has the same name as a player on the 1998 ole miss team? Random but oh well.

Keith Carter

Quote from: bbtds on February 17, 2015, 06:26:52 AM

Quote from: Valpofan00 on February 16, 2015, 10:42:22 PM
TRIVIA QUESTION. What current VU player has the same name as a player on the 1998 ole miss team? Random but oh well.

Keith Carter

:-( that was too easy

Quote from: Valpofan00 on February 17, 2015, 06:33:43 AM

Quote from: bbtds on February 17, 2015, 06:26:52 AM

Quote from: Valpofan00 on February 16, 2015, 10:42:22 PM
TRIVIA QUESTION. What current VU player has the same name as a player on the 1998 ole miss team? Random but oh well.

Keith Carter

:-( that was too easy

I believe it had been mentioned on this board in the past year.

Quote from: bbtds on February 17, 2015, 08:02:09 AM

Quote from: Valpofan00 on February 17, 2015, 06:33:43 AM

Quote from: bbtds on February 17, 2015, 06:26:52 AM

Quote from: Valpofan00 on February 16, 2015, 10:42:22 PM
TRIVIA QUESTION. What current VU player has the same name as a player on the 1998 ole miss team? Random but oh well.

Keith Carter

:-( that was too easy

I believe it had been mentioned on this board in the past year.

Probably on the day he announced his transfer.

Kc's old SLU team is not doing so hot this year. 

Here's a trivia question.  Has the ARC ever hosted a top 25?

Quote from: oklahomamick on February 17, 2015, 11:33:29 AM
Here's a trivia question.  Has the ARC ever hosted a top 25?

Oh yeah, my Sophomore year, 2007 they hosted Marquette and Butler in back to back games. I believe they were both top 25, but I know Butler was.

Quote from: oklahomamick on February 17, 2015, 11:33:29 AM
Here's a trivia question.  Has the ARC ever hosted a top 25?

Wasn't Purdue ranked in 2010? Also if you go way back the Luther Miracle game when they beat no. 19 Notre Dame.

Quote from: oklahomamick on February 17, 2015, 11:33:29 AM
Here's a trivia question.  Has the ARC ever hosted a top 25?

Of course, the most famous game is the Miracle on Mound Street in 1988 when we beat #19 Notre Dame. I remember it fondly as I was sitting right behind Digger Phelps the entire game, and I got to see and hear him throughout, including his comments to the team in a late huddle that they absolutely were not going to lose this game.

I remember the thrill of game-intro... "LaPhonso Ellis"... the first of many future NBA players to scroll through the ARC over the past 30 years...

that might make a fun list to compile.

1.  Bryce Drew

2. Chris Kaman, then of CMU, to match up with Raitis

3. Tony Bennett

4. Gordon Hayward

Quote from: talksalot on February 17, 2015, 11:50:08 AM
I remember the thrill of game-intro... "LaPhonso Ellis"... the first of many future NBA players to scroll through the ARC over the past 30 years...

that might make a fun list to compile.

1.  Bryce Drew

From the ARC inauguration game against Notre Dame: Tim Kempton, David Rivers, and Donald Royal.

5. Norris Cole, CSU from 2008-2011

Alec Brown - Green Bay 10-14

Jr. - Detroit 10-13


Etwaun Moore - Purdue 2010

Kevin Duckworth, Eastern Illinois, 1985-86

Quote from: valpopal on February 17, 2015, 11:44:21 AMOf course, the most famous game is the Miracle on Mound Street in 1988 when we beat #19 Notre Dame.

Quote from: talksalot on February 17, 2015, 11:50:08 AMI remember the thrill of game-intro... "LaPhonso Ellis"... the first of many future NBA players to scroll through the ARC over the past 30 years...

Elmer Bennett and Keith Tower from this game as well.

Quote from: classof2014 on February 17, 2015, 12:35:45 PM
Alec Brown - Green Bay 10-14

We're talking about people who actually played minutes in an NBA game, not overrated 7 foot bums.

George Hill - IUPUI 2004-08

Shelvin Mack -- Butler 2008 - 11

Bader...oops nevermind  :o

Quote from: classof2014 on February 17, 2015, 12:35:45 PMEtwaun Moore - Purdue 2010

JaJuan Johnson as well from this game.  Hummel was injured that season and did not play.  He did play pick up games at the ARC, does that count?

Winston Garland, SW MO St, 1986-87

Clinton Smith, Cleveland State, 1985-86

Hilltop counts, presumably?  Larry Bird played there?  Against Valpo?

While looking up players that played in the NBA from our mid-con days, I found Sherell Ford, from UIC, 1993 and 1994 he would have played at the ARC.  He played 36 games in the NBA:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/fordsh01.html (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/fordsh01.html)

Quote from: Kyle321n on February 17, 2015, 11:37:17 AM

Quote from: oklahomamick on February 17, 2015, 11:33:29 AM
Here's a trivia question.  Has the ARC ever hosted a top 25?

Oh yeah, my Sophomore year, 2007 they hosted Marquette and Butler in back to back games. I believe they were both top 25, but I know Butler was.

At the risk of re opening an old (but recent!) question while a new one's taken off.

I wonder how many times Butler visited,while ranked , in our mutual Horizon league years.  Seems like us remember if we won such a game.  A missed opportunity ?

Quote from: agibson on February 17, 2015, 01:12:04 PM

Quote from: Kyle321n on February 17, 2015, 11:37:17 AM

Quote from: oklahomamick on February 17, 2015, 11:33:29 AM
Here's a trivia question.  Has the ARC ever hosted a top 25?

Oh yeah, my Sophomore year, 2007 they hosted Marquette and Butler in back to back games. I believe they were both top 25, but I know Butler was.

At the risk of re opening an old (but recent!) question while a new one's taken off.

I wonder how many times Butler visited,while ranked , in our mutual Horizon league years.  Seems like us remember if we won such a game.  A missed opportunity ?

To answer my own question: Butler was ranked at the ARC in 2008, 2009, and 2010.  All Valpo losses, alas.  So, indeed, a missed opportunity.

The Butler-Marquette homestand looks to have been in the fall of 2006.  Both losses.  Still, must have been quite a pair of games!

Quote from: agibson on February 17, 2015, 01:28:12 PM

Quote from: agibson on February 17, 2015, 01:12:04 PM

Quote from: Kyle321n on February 17, 2015, 11:37:17 AM

Quote from: oklahomamick on February 17, 2015, 11:33:29 AM
Here's a trivia question.  Has the ARC ever hosted a top 25?

Oh yeah, my Sophomore year, 2007 they hosted Marquette and Butler in back to back games. I believe they were both top 25, but I know Butler was.

At the risk of re opening an old (but recent!) question while a new one's taken off.

I wonder how many times Butler visited,while ranked , in our mutual Horizon league years.  Seems like us remember if we won such a game.  A missed opportunity ?

To answer my own question: Butler was ranked at the ARC in 2008, 2009, and 2010.  All Valpo losses, alas.  So, indeed, a missed opportunity.

The Butler-Marquette homestand looks to have been in the fall of 2006.  Both losses.  Still, must have been quite a pair of games!

That Marquette game was a thriller too. They had to hit a 3 at the buzzer to win. I just checked out the box score. For a Monday night in November we had 4,935 people there. That's more than the championship game in 2013 and any game this season.

Quote from: Kyle321n on February 17, 2015, 01:38:16 PM

Quote from: agibson on February 17, 2015, 01:28:12 PM

Quote from: agibson on February 17, 2015, 01:12:04 PM

Quote from: Kyle321n on February 17, 2015, 11:37:17 AM

Quote from: oklahomamick on February 17, 2015, 11:33:29 AM
Here's a trivia question.  Has the ARC ever hosted a top 25?

Oh yeah, my Sophomore year, 2007 they hosted Marquette and Butler in back to back games. I believe they were both top 25, but I know Butler was.

At the risk of re opening an old (but recent!) question while a new one's taken off.

I wonder how many times Butler visited,while ranked , in our mutual Horizon league years.  Seems like us remember if we won such a game.  A missed opportunity ?

To answer my own question: Butler was ranked at the ARC in 2008, 2009, and 2010.  All Valpo losses, alas.  So, indeed, a missed opportunity.

The Butler-Marquette homestand looks to have been in the fall of 2006.  Both losses.  Still, must have been quite a pair of games!

That Marquette game was a thriller too. They had to hit a 3 at the buzzer to win. I just checked out the box score. For a Monday night in November we had 4,935 people there. That's more than the championship game in 2013 and any game this season.

That whole core felt way better than they actually were. The next year they had a lead against Wisconsin at half, played #1 Duke (or someone like that) close, and should have beat Butler (Lloyd airballed the front end of a 1 and 1), but looking back, they actually ended up 9-9 in conference with a ~100 RPI. At the time they felt amazing because it was the first year in the new league. But maybe the whole league was a bit better back then.

and a little cross-over on the two questions...

#19 Cincinnati came to the ARC in Fall '03... (and won 68-49)   NBA'er Tony Bobbitt was a bearcat.  Under Head Coach Bobbie Huggins.

Nate Huffman, Central Michigan 2002

 I can remember seeing #3 De Paul in Hilltop February of 1980.
Aguirre and Cummings

Gary Talton.... wait... Does the D-League count? XD

Grant Long, Eastern Michigan 1988

Rawle Marshall - Oakland 2003-2005

Jermaine Taylor, Central Florida 2008-09

ok... that's all I can find...that played for the Opposition in the ARC...

Adrian Dantley  for Notre Dame -- 1974 or so?

I didn't get into the Hilltop Gym games...

Quote from: a3uge on February 17, 2015, 02:15:21 PM
Gary Talton.... wait... Does the D-League count? XD

I was looking at the D-league just recently.  I noticed Ron Howard _didn't_ play in the All-Star game, but one of his Ft. Wayne colleagues, of similar age, did.

Quote from: Kyle321n on February 17, 2015, 01:38:16 PM

Quote from: agibson on February 17, 2015, 01:28:12 PM

Quote from: agibson on February 17, 2015, 01:12:04 PM

Quote from: Kyle321n on February 17, 2015, 11:37:17 AM

Quote from: oklahomamick on February 17, 2015, 11:33:29 AM
Here's a trivia question.  Has the ARC ever hosted a top 25?

Oh yeah, my Sophomore year, 2007 they hosted Marquette and Butler in back to back games. I believe they were both top 25, but I know Butler was.

At the risk of re opening an old (but recent!) question while a new one's taken off.

I wonder how many times Butler visited,while ranked , in our mutual Horizon league years.  Seems like us remember if we won such a game.  A missed opportunity ?

To answer my own question: Butler was ranked at the ARC in 2008, 2009, and 2010.  All Valpo losses, alas.  So, indeed, a missed opportunity.

The Butler-Marquette homestand looks to have been in the fall of 2006.  Both losses.  Still, must have been quite a pair of games!

That Marquette game was a thriller too. They had to hit a 3 at the buzzer to win. I just checked out the box score. For a Monday night in November we had 4,935 people there. That's more than the championship game in 2013 and any game this season.

Dominic James played for Marquette in that game and made the winning shot.

Jack Sikma - Illinois Wesleyan, not sure of the year. I believe they barely beat us in an upset.

Dave Corzine - DePaul. It was DePaul's last visit to Hilltop.

Austin Carr - Notre Dame  Fall of 69 my Freshman year.   Seems like he had  about 30 by halftime and didn't take a shot more than 5 ft from the basket. Didn't even play in the second half.

Here is the final play from the 2006 Marquette game.
http://youtu.be/TeiMnw05mDA (http://youtu.be/TeiMnw05mDA)

talksalot, didn't Jason Maxiell play for Cincinnati in Fall 2003, and go on to the NBA?

Quote from: valporun on February 18, 2015, 08:45:31 PMtalksalot, didn't Jason Maxiell play for Cincinnati in Fall 2003, and go on to the NBA?

Yes, Yes he did... and TODAY is his 33rd birthday !   (Basketball Reference.com knows all)

Quote from: valporun on February 18, 2015, 08:45:31 PM
talksalot, didn't Jason Maxiell play for Cincinnati in Fall 2003, and go on to the NBA?

as a Pistons fan I thought of that...but I could have sworn that game was at Cincy.  huh.

04-05 - Lost At Cincinnati 88-70 (November 19, 2004)
03-04 - Lost in ARC 68-49  (December 2, 2003)
02-03 - Lost At Cincinnati 76-50  (December 2, 2002)
90-91 - Lost At Cincinnati 90-47  (February 25, 1991)
47-48 - WON at Cincinnati 75-69 (January 10, 1948)...then we went on an 11-game losing streak...

Maxiel played in the game at the ARC. I remember that big, bad dude. :)

I saw Maxiell play for Cincy against Illinois New Year's Eve 2004 in Las Vegas.  I would guess he was a senior that year.

Maxiell moment
(http://omunchi.com/wp-content/uploads/maxwell_maninchair_omunchi-600x255.jpg)

Another Maxiell moment

(http://a.espncdn.com/i/pkg/05NBAdraft/250/18791.jpg)    (http://enquirer.com/bearcats/2003/01/30/ucmaxiell_zoom.jpg)

Brad Miller, Chris Kaman, Etwaun Moore and Juwaun Johnson. Was Wesley Mathews on that Marquette team? Gordon Hayward, Sheldon Mack, Norris Cole, Ray McCallum. Keith Closs, Jeff Nordgaard, Logan VandenVelden, Sherrell Ford.

And don't forget:Meadow Lark Lemon,Marquis Haynes,Goose Tatum and others. Damn they were good.

All this trivia is good fun.  But, I'm also curious about the "usual" uproar of the thread.

Does Alec have any chance at the siphon scoring record?  Any other season records in view, apart from the 3% which seems pretty likely?

Quote from: agibson on February 21, 2015, 02:48:38 PMDoes Alec have any chance at the siphon scoring record?

I think yes, because lately other people have been siphoning quite a lot of points from him

Quote from: agibson on February 21, 2015, 02:48:38 PMAny other season records in view, apart from the 3% which seems pretty likely?

Not sure what you're referring to...he'll set season records, but not this year, I don't think.

Sorry, sloppy fast typing and runaway autocorrect.

I guess this update probably did happen after our last game.  Funny how the basketball clock seems to slow down in crunch time.

Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 15, 2015, 08:37:06 PM
Most points, first two seasons
1) Bryce, 912
2) Alec, 909

3FG%, season
4) jr Casey Schmidt 47.7%
5) Alec, 46.6%
6) soph Scott Anselm, 46.1%

3FG%, career
t6.  Alec, 42.3%
t6.  Rob Cavanaugh, 42.3%

(I'm sure they're not literally tied, but I can't find any of Rob's stats to break it down further.)

As an aside, Alec has 125 3s in his first 60 games.  Needs just 25 to make T10, career.

No trivia since there's still a live question on the floor.

I know...I was just teasing ; )

The Incredible Lance Barker's record is likely safe; Alec would have to make his next 18 in a row or so just to get there.

Look for Alec to get the first 2-years' scoring mark tonight even before Bryce can waste his first TO ; )

Most points, first two seasons
1) Alec, 926
2) Bryce, 912

3FG%, season
4) jr Casey Schmidt 47.7%
5) Alec, 46.7%
6) soph Scott Anselm, 46.1%

3FG%, career
5. Colclasure, 42.6%
6.  Alec, 42.5%

Interesante:  Last year, Alec 57 for 149 from 3.  This year, on his first 149 attempts, he hit 70 (now 70 for 150).

As an aside, Alec has 127 3s in his first 60 games.  Needs just 23 to make T10, career, already.

What is it about HL refs/rims/cheerleaders/conspiracies?  That's who I blame for this split.
Soph Vashil: Non-con, 30.8% FTs; In-con, 0% (0 for 1)
Jr Vashil: Non-con, 55.8% FTs; In-con, 39.5% (same ATT in each half, 43)
Sr Vashil: Non-con, 63.4% FTs; In-con, 40.5%

To recap:  Vashil in non-conference play, 55.7%
In conference: 39.5% FTs

Actually, it's probably the extra 2.5 inches away that HL free throw lines are from the basket.

#facts

What's the record on T's in a season?  Bryce has two now..

There for a while I was wondering about the record for fewest FT's in a game.

I wonder what the VU records are for conference wins, conference record, and home conference wins and record?

Quote from: agibson on February 22, 2015, 10:14:14 PMconference wins

in HL:  14, 2011-12 (over 18 games)
13, 2012-13 (over 16 games)
in Mid-Con: 13, 1996-97, 1997-98, 2000-01 (over 16 games)
14, 1993-94, 1994-95 (over 18 games)
in AMCU:  5, 1985-86 (over 14 games)
in ICC: 8, like 6-8 times (over 12 games)

Quote from: agibson on February 22, 2015, 10:14:14 PMconference record

i take it you mean like win %? this is pretty closely related to the previous stat.

i don't have time to go through home though.  call Elias.