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Title: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: talksalot on November 24, 2016, 10:01:25 AM
Let's title this No Let Down.  This game first.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: justducky on November 24, 2016, 10:15:44 AM
We are on a roll, have the revenge motive and will be at home so I expect to struggle (freshmen will see expanded minutes) but win.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: M on November 24, 2016, 11:55:36 AM
Is this a trap game? Coming off a nice couple wins and right before a top 25 team visits your court?

Valpo by 11, 79-68.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: vufan75 on November 24, 2016, 04:40:43 PM
My concern as well. Senior leaders need to remind team there are NO easy games.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: justducky on November 24, 2016, 06:33:34 PM
Quote from: M on November 24, 2016, 11:55:36 AMIs this a trap game?
Quote from: vufan75 on November 24, 2016, 04:40:43 PMSenior leaders need to remind team there are NO easy games.
I neither expect or necessarily want this to be an easy game.

Playing a short 6 man rotation is highly dangerous so going all out for a quick kill looks like a fools errand which could backfire. Time to take the calculated risk of playing freshmen for expanded minutes, with the understanding that a hole might develop from which we might need to emerge. The groundwork for our season ending goals will require additional foundational preparation. Looks to me like Ball State is an ideal place for this to start and if not now then when?
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: swiftmutiny on November 24, 2016, 06:51:49 PM
We lost to Ball State by three last year, and I'm sure that will be fresh in the minds of the upperclassmen and coaches.

I'll take Valpo by ten.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: frontrowfan on November 24, 2016, 08:19:16 PM
Watched Ball State play SUU at the middleweight final Wed afternoon. I think we can handle them. They will be challenged by our defenders
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: EddieCabot on November 25, 2016, 02:05:16 PM
Quote from: justducky on November 24, 2016, 06:33:34 PM
Quote from: M on November 24, 2016, 11:55:36 AMIs this a trap game?
Quote from: vufan75 on November 24, 2016, 04:40:43 PMSenior leaders need to remind team there are NO easy games.
I neither expect or necessarily want this to be an easy game.

Playing a short 6 man rotation is highly dangerous so going all out for a quick kill looks like a fools errand which could backfire. Time to take the calculated risk of playing freshmen for expanded minutes, with the understanding that a hole might develop from which we might need to emerge. The groundwork for our season ending goals will require additional foundational preparation. Looks to me like Ball State is an ideal place for this to start and if not now then when?

I also hope the freshmen start playing a bigger role in the rotation.  After hearing so much hype from insiders like pgmado and vu72, I was expecting a little more.  I'll remain patient and trust that Coach Lottich will bring them along at their own pace.

Valpo by 15 over BSU.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: VUfan on November 25, 2016, 09:12:59 PM
A challenge to be over come. Time for the younger players to grow. AP has been sick beware!  :-[ VU 77 BSU 72
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: talksalot on November 26, 2016, 05:03:51 PM
Here are the current season stats for the cards

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/2050/ball-state-cardinals

Tayler Perkins (19) and Franko House (16) ppg

and their Roster:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/roster/_/id/2050/ball-state-cardinals

and I'm sure someone will know if Doudou is a relative of Moussa.  Hasn't played much after transferring from South Carolina State.

Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: wh on November 26, 2016, 10:25:15 PM
The spread: Valpo -10
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: agibson on November 26, 2016, 11:36:28 PM
Quote from: wh on November 26, 2016, 10:25:15 PM
The spread: Valpo -10

Somehow that makes me less comfortable, not more. We seem to have trouble with frequently played in-state opponents.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: bbtds on November 27, 2016, 08:00:59 AM
Quote from: agibson on November 26, 2016, 11:36:28 PM
Quote from: wh on November 26, 2016, 10:25:15 PM
The spread: Valpo -10

Somehow that makes me less comfortable, not more. We seem to have trouble with frequently played in-state opponents.

I'm sure that all the players from last year will remember the sting from last year and how it affected their chances at an NCAA at large bid. If they think like that this game has huge meaning.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: covufan on November 27, 2016, 08:37:44 AM
After Bama and BYU, this team is learning about themselves, and what it takes to get better.

Valpo   77
Ball St.  59


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Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: vu84v2 on November 27, 2016, 09:24:47 AM
Ball State will be better than we may think that they are.

Coach Lottich will try to get a deeper player rotation going, but will again have limited success.

Peters and Hammink will step up and extend the lead late.

Valpo 77
Ball State 68
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: talksalot on November 27, 2016, 10:06:49 AM
Quote from: vu84v2 on November 27, 2016, 09:24:47 AMHamming

Hammink
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: vu84v2 on November 27, 2016, 11:03:17 AM
Darn spell check. I corrected it using only my left hand in honor of Shane's fine play.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: atkins on November 27, 2016, 02:19:05 PM
How can this team continue to play so poorly at home?  Awful. 
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: oklahomamick on November 27, 2016, 02:20:54 PM
thankful for Lexus.  A couple three's and several steals. Good thing Ball St. is not in the HL....
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: bbtds on November 27, 2016, 02:28:11 PM
The other Cardinal I'm afraid might start on a shooting streak and hitting a load of threes is Weber from Roncalli in Indy. We better get Peters going before that starts.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: bbtds on November 27, 2016, 02:33:24 PM
Seems Peters gathered the team for an inspirational talk during halftime warm up. Good to see him mentoring the team.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: oklahomamick on November 27, 2016, 02:38:18 PM
House is killing us in the paint.  We need a big! 

On a positive note, we can shoot free throws well.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: oklahomamick on November 27, 2016, 02:48:48 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on November 27, 2016, 02:38:18 PMHouse is killing us in the paint.  We need a big! On a positive note, we can shoot free throws well.

SMITS!
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: VUfan on November 27, 2016, 03:36:11 PM
The team simply out worked a good Ball State team!!  ;D
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: vu84v2 on November 27, 2016, 03:36:27 PM
Workmanlike win. Peters couldn't get his shot going, but (as usual) found a way. I think that he again leads the nation in made free throws. Really nice to see Williams game continue to improve and nice to have a Smits sighting. First time Smits looked like he knew what he was doing and was in position most of the time. Big game for Valpo on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: oklahomamick on November 27, 2016, 03:38:53 PM
Good to get that win.  Great 2nd half.  Will the ARC be full Tuesday?
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: bbtds on November 27, 2016, 04:08:59 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on November 27, 2016, 03:38:53 PM
Good to get that win.  Great 2nd half.  Will the ARC be full Tuesday?

It shows classes start tomorrow on Monday, Nov. 28. My guess would be yes. We won a heavyweight belt for gosh sakes. It's time for someone to wear it at the game and show it off.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: oklahomamick on November 27, 2016, 04:43:39 PM
When was the last time Valpo hosted a ranked team at the ARC, outside of Butler?
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: justducky on November 27, 2016, 04:48:22 PM
Quote from: vu84v2 on November 27, 2016, 03:36:27 PMReally nice to see Williams game continue to improve
For the season he now has 19 assists vs 9 turnovers. That ratio isn't overpowering but his calm judgement, ball control, shooting and quick hands make him look like a 4 year starter which in some respects he mentally is. To this point he has been my most pleasant surprise just like he was coming out of nowhere as a freshman. Last year made me doubt that he could do this but I love to be proven wrong.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: talksalot on November 27, 2016, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on November 27, 2016, 04:43:39 PMWhen was the last time Valpo hosted a ranked team at the ARC, outside of Butler?

Someone may argue.. but I found the 2006-07 matchup in the ARC with #9 Marquette...(we lost 65-62)... you can ask Tom Crean about it...  come to think of it, this is probably not a good week to bring that up.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: oklahomamick on November 27, 2016, 05:29:23 PM
I thought a ranked SLU came to the ARC and escaped with a buzzer beater win.  I could have dreamt it...
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: StlVUFan on November 27, 2016, 05:30:49 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on November 27, 2016, 05:29:23 PM
I thought a ranked SLU came to the ARC and escaped with a buzzer beater win.  I could have dreamt it...
They did, but I'm not sure they were ranked.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: bbtds on November 27, 2016, 06:17:29 PM
Quote from: StlVUFan on November 27, 2016, 05:30:49 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on November 27, 2016, 05:29:23 PM
I thought a ranked SLU came to the ARC and escaped with a buzzer beater win.  I could have dreamt it...
They did, but I'm not sure they were ranked.

SLU was tops in the A10 that year. Opposite of this year.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: wh on November 27, 2016, 06:31:44 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on November 27, 2016, 05:29:23 PM
I thought a ranked SLU came to the ARC and escaped with a buzzer beater win.  I could have dreamt it...

SLU was ranked that season, but not until after we played them. They broke into the Top 25 (coaches poll) for the first time in in Week-12 (20th). They were ranked as high as 8th (week-17), and finished 25th.

Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: vusupporter on November 27, 2016, 06:39:55 PM
Purdue in the gray uniforms, 2010. Then we lost at Toledo the next game in the grays and never saw them again.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: EddieCabot on November 27, 2016, 07:10:44 PM

Another nice win!  With the wins in Vegas, any chance Valpo starts getting Top-25 votes again this week or does that happen after a win over URI?
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: vu72 on November 27, 2016, 07:18:26 PM
I think Lexus played as well or better than Keith Carter, at least in this game.  Smits was obviously very nervous and missed a few point blank shots--that will improve and possibly quickly.

As for Alec, I wonder if he new status with more scoring and rebounding on his shoulders has left he beat up or just worn down when it relates to his three point shooting. Those shots aren't all short or all long, they are missing in various ways which might be because he is trying to do too much. If Jubril continues to play like he did today I would think Derrik will earn more minutes.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: a3uge on November 27, 2016, 07:47:21 PM
Quote from: vusupporter on November 27, 2016, 06:39:55 PM
Purdue in the gray uniforms, 2010. Then we lost at Toledo the next game in the grays and never saw them again.
That's false. I distinctly remember those jerseys being framed and presented at senior night a couple years later.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: talksalot on November 27, 2016, 08:12:06 PM
Quote from: vusupporter on November 27, 2016, 06:39:55 PMPurdue in the gray uniforms, 2010. Then we lost at Toledo the next game in the grays and never saw them again.

2010-11 season, 'dem Boilers beat us 76-58 (and Toledo on the road 75-72)... and we snapped out of those uni's and beat IPFW by 16.... but back to the question at hand... I don't know if Purdue was ranked when they came to the ARC.  We had already been blown out by Kansas earlier that season.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: wh on November 27, 2016, 09:03:48 PM
Quote from: talksalot on November 27, 2016, 08:12:06 PM
I don't know if Purdue was ranked when they came to the ARC.

Valpo-Purdue Game at the ARC Dec. 7 Officially Sold Out
Friday, December 3, 2010

The Valparaiso ticket office announced today that the Crusaders' men's basketball game against #22/18 Purdue at the Athletics-Recreation Center on Tuesday, Dec. 7 is officially sold out.  No tickets will be available for purchase on the day of the game.

http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2010-11/10313/valpo-purdue-game-at-the-arc-dec-7-officially-sold-out/

Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: valpotx on November 27, 2016, 10:47:02 PM
That darn Marquette game, where Dominic James hit a 3-pointer from near mid-court to win.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: wh on November 28, 2016, 08:26:22 AM
Lest we forget, the Butler Bulldogs came into the ARC ranked in their first run to the NCAA Tournament championship game:

2/26/10 – Butler at Valparaiso

Teams   1st Half   2nd Half   Final
BU              30             44           74
VALP              31             38           69

Butler Completes Unbeaten League Season Senior Willie Veasley scored a career-high 20 points and Butler pulled away in the second half to hand host Valparaiso a 74–69 setback and become the first team in Horizon League history to finish with an 18–0 record. The win lifted the #15/10 Bulldogs to 26–4 on the season.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: agibson on November 28, 2016, 09:42:41 AM
Quote from: bbtds on November 27, 2016, 04:08:59 PMWe won a heavyweight belt for gosh sakes. It's time for someone to wear it at the game and show it off.

[tweet]801686587444641792[/tweet]

Would be fantastic if they let him wear it to games.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: a3uge on November 28, 2016, 09:45:26 AM
Quote from: wh on November 28, 2016, 08:26:22 AM
Lest we forget, the Butler Bulldogs came into the ARC ranked in their first run to the NCAA Tournament championship game:

2/26/10 – Butler at Valparaiso

Teams   1st Half   2nd Half   Final
BU              30             44           74
VALP              31             38           69

Butler Completes Unbeaten League Season Senior Willie Veasley scored a career-high 20 points and Butler pulled away in the second half to hand host Valparaiso a 74–69 setback and become the first team in Horizon League history to finish with an 18–0 record. The win lifted the #15/10 Bulldogs to 26–4 on the season.
Nope, that game did not exist. Jared Lloyd did not air ball the front end of a one and one.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: oklahomamick on November 28, 2016, 10:14:09 AM
Quote from: wh on November 28, 2016, 08:26:22 AMLest we forget, the Butler Bulldogs came into the ARC ranked in their first run to the NCAA Tournament championship game: 2/26/10 – Butler at Valparaiso Teams   1st Half   2nd Half   Final BU              30             44           74 VALP              31             38           69 Butler Completes Unbeaten League Season Senior Willie Veasley scored a career-high 20 points and Butler pulled away in the second half to hand host Valparaiso a 74–69 setback and become the first team in Horizon League history to finish with an 18–0 record. The win lifted the #15/10 Bulldogs to 26–4 on the season.

Butler had to come to the ARC.  I'm asking when have we had a non conference foe who was ranked come to the ARC.
Title: Re: Game #7 Ball State @ARC Sunday 11/27/16 1:30pm
Post by: wh on November 28, 2016, 10:31:16 AM
Quote from: oklahomamick on November 28, 2016, 10:14:09 AM
Quote from: wh on November 28, 2016, 08:26:22 AMLest we forget, the Butler Bulldogs came into the ARC ranked in their first run to the NCAA Tournament championship game: 2/26/10 – Butler at Valparaiso Teams   1st Half   2nd Half   Final BU              30             44           74 VALP              31             38           69 Butler Completes Unbeaten League Season Senior Willie Veasley scored a career-high 20 points and Butler pulled away in the second half to hand host Valparaiso a 74–69 setback and become the first team in Horizon League history to finish with an 18–0 record. The win lifted the #15/10 Bulldogs to 26–4 on the season.

Butler had to come to the ARC.  I'm asking when have we had a non conference foe who was ranked come to the ARC.

My apologies. Would you prefer that I delete my post?  ;)