I remember as a kid growing up waiting for the Sears Catalog to appear in the mailbox. My siblings and I would go through all 1100 pages one at a time...
Well... NOW it's the Over Under Podcast that brings a similar joy of anticipation where the skies are always blue...
The Victory Bell and the Chef have once again not let me down with the best 52 minutes of the week...
Here are the O/U categories for the year... and I'll start. As was stated, I'll try to keep these updated periodically through the season.
Edwards - 15.5 points and rebounds - OVER
Palm - 5.7 rebounds per game - OVER
Barrett - 0.9 3ptrs per game played - UNDER
Weatherspoon - 41.6% from the floor - UNDER
Ajiboye - 1.5 Blocks and Steals/game - OVER
DeAveiro -120.5 assists for year - OVER ... IF someone will score off his passes!
Williamson - 1.5 assist / turnover ratio - OVER
Schweiger - 11.25 points per game - OVER, if he can pad the stats in the Pre-Conference
Stafford - 16.5 points per game - WAY OVER
Team Field Goals Attempted 60.5/gm - UNDER, unless they can pad the stats pre-January
All Newcomer Team for MVC - 0.5 - OVER, we have so many newcomers, the odds are with us
All League Team 1st, 2nd, 3rd - 0.5 - OVER - Darius time to Shine
Valley Road Victories - 1.5 - OVER - SIU and Evansville
Final Standing in Valley - 10.5 - UNDER (Worse) - I'll stick with the professionals on this one
Total Wins - 10.5 - OVER because optimism exudes
SO...
did you see what Loyola did to the Trinity Trolls the other day? 104-44.
did you see what South Suburban Community College did to the Trinity Christian Trolls on 11/1? 128-37
Trinity is playing Moody Bible Institute on Friday, and "East-West" on Saturday before our game on Monday.
This is not a good season for Jason Hawkins and the Trolls.
Edwards - 15.5 points and rebounds - UNDER
Palm - 5.7 rebounds per game - UNDER
Barrett - 0.9 3ptrs per game played - OVER
Weatherspoon - 41.6% from the floor - UNDER
Ajiboye - 1.5 Blocks and Steals/game - UNDER
DeAveiro -120.5 assists for year - UNDER
Williamson - 1.5 assist / turnover ratio - UNDER
Schweiger - 11.25 points per game - UNDER
Stafford - 16.5 points per game - UNDER
Team Field Goals Attempted 60.5/gm - OVER
All Newcomer Team for MVC - 0.5 - OVER
All League Team 1st, 2nd, 3rd - 0.5 - OVER
Valley Road Victories - 1.5 - OVER
Final Standing in Valley - 10.5 - OVER (better)
Total Wins - 10.5 - OVER
Edwards - 15.5 points and rebounds - UNDER
Palm - 5.7 rebounds per game - UNDER
Barrett - 0.9 3ptrs per game played - OVER
Weatherspoon - 41.6% from the floor - UNDER
Ajiboye - 1.5 Blocks and Steals/game - UNDER
DeAveiro -120.5 assists for year - UNDER
Williamson - 1.5 assist / turnover ratio - UNDER
Schweiger - 11.25 points per game - OVER
Stafford - 16.5 points per game - OVER
Team Field Goals Attempted 60.5/gm - UNDER
All Newcomer Team for MVC - 0.5 - OVER
All League Team 1st, 2nd, 3rd - 0.5 - OVER
Valley Road Victories - 1.5 - OVER
Final Standing in Valley - 10.5 - UNDER (Worse)
Total Wins - 10.5 - UNDER
Edwards - 15.5 points and rebounds - UNDER
Palm - 5.7 rebounds per game - UNDER
Barrett - 0.9 3ptrs per game played - UNDER
Weatherspoon - 41.6% from the floor - OVER
Ajiboye - 1.5 Blocks and Steals/game - OVER
DeAveiro -120.5 assists for year - OVER
Williamson - 1.5 assist / turnover ratio - UNDER
Schweiger - 11.25 points per game - OVER
Stafford - 16.5 points per game - OVER
Team Field Goals Attempted 60.5/gm - UNDER
All Newcomer Team for MVC - 0.5 - OVER
All League Team 1st, 2nd, 3rd - 0.5 - OVER
Valley Road Victories - 1.5 - UNDER
Final Standing in Valley - 10.5 - UNDER
Total Wins - 10.5 - OVER
Edwards - 15.5 points and rebounds - UNDER
Palm - 5.7 rebounds per game - UNDER
Barrett - 0.9 3ptrs per game played - UNDER
Weatherspoon - 41.6% from the floor - UNDER
Ajiboye - 1.5 Blocks and Steals/game - OVER
DeAveiro -120.5 assists for year - UNDER
Williamson - 1.5 assist / turnover ratio - UNDER
Schweiger - 11.25 points per game - UNDER
Stafford - 16.5 points per game - UNDER
Team Field Goals Attempted 60.5/gm - UNDER
All Newcomer Team for MVC - 0.5 - OVER
All League Team 1st, 2nd, 3rd - 0.5 - OVER
Valley Road Victories - 1.5 - OVER
Final Standing in Valley - 10.5 - UNDER (11)
Total Wins - 10.5 - UNDER (10)
Edwards - 15.5 points and rebounds - UNDER
Palm - 5.7 rebounds per game - OVER
Barrett - 0.9 3 ptrs per game played - OVER
Weatherspoon - 41.6% from the floor - UNDER
Ajiboye - 1.5 Blocks and Steals/game - OVER
DeAveiro -120.5 assists for year - OVER
Williamson - 1.5 assist / turnover ratio - OVER
Schweiger - 11.25 points per game - OVER -he'll benefit from being overlooked
Stafford - 16.5 points per game - UNDER -- defenses will learn to focus on him
Team Field Goals Attempted 60.5/gm - UNDER
All Newcomer Team for MVC - 0.5 - UNDER -- plenty of other choices (see my comment about Stafford above)
All League Team 1st, 2nd, 3rd - 0.5 - UNDER
Valley Road Victories - 1.5 - OVER -- I plan to be at the SIU and Ill St games, and I hope to leave happy
Final Standing in Valley - 10.5 - UNDER
Total Wins - 10.5 - OVER
Edwards - 15.5 points and rebounds - UNDER
Palm - 5.7 rebounds per game - UNDER
Barrett - 0.9 3ptrs per game played - UNDER
Weatherspoon - 41.6% from the floor - UNDER
Ajiboye - 1.5 Blocks and Steals/game - OVER
DeAveiro -120.5 assists for year - UNDER
Williamson - 1.5 assist / turnover ratio - UNDER
Schweiger - 11.25 points per game - UNDER
Stafford - 16.5 points per game - UNDER
Team Field Goals Attempted 60.5/gm - OVER
All Newcomer Team for MVC - 0.5 - UNDER (0)
All League Team 1st, 2nd, 3rd - 0.5 - OVER (1)
Valley Road Victories - 1.5 - OVER (2)
Final Standing in Valley - 10.5 - UNDER (12)
Total Wins - 10.5 - UNDER (8)
Somebody has to be rational here and a bit more pessimistic.
Edwards - 15.5 points and rebounds - UNDER
Palm - 5.7 rebounds per game - OVER
Barrett - 0.9 3ptrs per game played - OVER
Weatherspoon - 41.6% from the floor - OVER
Ajiboye - 1.5 Blocks and Steals/game - UNDER
DeAveiro -120.5 assists for year - UNDER
Williamson - 1.5 assist / turnover ratio - UNDER
Schweiger - 11.25 points per game - OVER
Stafford - 16.5 points per game - OVER
Team Field Goals Attempted 60.5/gm - UNDER
All Newcomer Team for MVC - 0.5 - OVER
All League Team 1st, 2nd, 3rd - 0.5 - OVER
Valley Road Victories - 1.5 - OVER
Final Standing in Valley - 10.5 - OVER
Total Wins - 10.5 - OVER
Edwards - 15.5 points and rebounds - OVER
Palm - 5.7 rebounds per game - OVER
Barrett - 0.9 3ptrs per game played - OVER
Weatherspoon - 41.6% from the floor - UNDER
Ajiboye - 1.5 Blocks and Steals/game - OVER
DeAveiro -120.5 assists for year - OVER
Williamson - 1.5 assist / turnover ratio - OVER
Schweiger - 11.25 points per game - OVER
Stafford - 16.5 points per game - OVER
Team Field Goals Attempted 60.5/gm - OVER
All Newcomer Team for MVC - 0.5 - OVER
All League Team 1st, 2nd, 3rd - 0.5 - OVER
Valley Road Victories - 1.5 - OVER
Final Standing in Valley - 10.5 - OVER (Better) I'm going with 9th
Total Wins - 10.5 - OVER My guess is 14 before Arch Madness
Thanks for doing this!
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After calculating the huge database that comes from the blowout last night... which included sitting a bunch of our regular rotation guys for most of the second half...
OVER UNDER 2024 through 11/6 REALITY DATA STATUS
Edwards - 15.5 points and rebounds 16+3=19 OVER
Palm - 5.7 rebounds per game 5 UNDER
Barrett - 0.9 3ptrs per game played 0-3 UNDER
Weatherspoon - 41.6% from the floor 1-9 UNDER
Ajiboye - 1.5 Blocks and Steals/game 1+2 OVER
DeAveiro -120.5 assists (3.88/GM) 6 OVER
Williamson - 1.5 assist per turnover 1 / 0 OVER
Schweiger - 11.25 points per game 9 UNDER
Stafford - 16.5 points per game 20 OVER
Team Field Goals Attempted 60.5/gm 72 OVER
Talksalot (ahem ) and CoVuFan are tied with 7 of 10 correctly prognosticated, and Historyman at 6.
GO AHEAD... tell me it's too early.... pass me the Kool Aid... and a straw. I saw a brotherhood out there. When Barrett pulled a "Diebler" EVERYone was right there. If you don't know what a "Diebler" is...sorry. Whenever Anthony or Connor took a 3? EVERYONE on the bench stood up ready to explode.
Our Starters had an AVERAGE +/- of 36.6, everyone at 30 or higher and Isaiah was a +46.
Quote from: talksalot on November 07, 2023, 11:29:37 AM
After calculating the huge database that comes from the blowout last night... which included sitting a bunch of our regular rotation guys for most of the second half...
OVER UNDER 2024 through 11/6 REALITY DATA STATUS
Edwards - 15.5 points and rebounds 16+3=19 OVER
Palm - 5.7 rebounds per game 5 UNDER
Barrett - 0.9 3ptrs per game played 0-3 UNDER
Weatherspoon - 41.6% from the floor 1-9 UNDER
Ajiboye - 1.5 Blocks and Steals/game 1+2 OVER
DeAveiro -120.5 assists (3.88/GM) 6 OVER
Williamson - 1.5 assist per turnover 1 / 0 OVER
Schweiger - 11.25 points per game 9 UNDER
Stafford - 16.5 points per game 20 OVER
Team Field Goals Attempted 60.5/gm 72 OVER
Talksalot (ahem ) and CoVuFan are tied with 7 of 10 correctly prognosticated, and Historyman at 6.
GO AHEAD... tell me it's too early.... pass me the Kool Aid... and a straw. I saw a brotherhood out there. When Barrett pulled a "Diebler" EVERYone was right there. If you don't know what a "Diebler" is...sorry. Whenever Anthony or Connor took a 3? EVERYONE on the bench stood up ready to explode.
Our Starters had an AVERAGE +/- of 36.6, everyone at 30 or higher and Isaiah was a +46.
(https://i.imgflip.com/7c04jr.jpg)
I couldn't find Jake diving for a loose ball (there were some pics of the Valpo HS Diving team, though) but I did find this. Especially with Jake wearing the nose guarding mask after he broke his nose diving for a loose ball.
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Quote from: historyman on November 08, 2023, 05:32:13 PM
I couldn't find Jake diving for a loose ball (there were some pics of the Valpo HS Diving team, though) but I did find this. Especially with Jake wearing the nose guarding mask after he broke his nose diving for a loose ball.
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(https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.si.com%2Fcollege%2Findiana%2Fbasketball%2Fohio-state-basketball-associate-coach-jake-diebler-previews-game-against-indiana-hooisers&psig=AOvVaw1LY2kSfN-TfV6tw8Dn40Ki&ust=1699572515551000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBIQjRxqFwoTCMjjs5jHtYIDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAJ)
Oh, God, now all the Ohio State players will know I broke my nose in college. Why did you tell them?
so... after 6 games. I believe most of the followers would be OK with a 4-2 record heading into the Valley two-step...
Here are the statistics for the O/U event through 6...
Edwards - 15.5 points and rebounds 52-40 15.33 UNDER - barely
Palm - 5.7 rebounds per game 39 6.50 OVER - barely
Barrett - 0.9 3ptrs per game played 0-3 0 UNDER - Not wearing the boot today
Weatherspoon - 41.6% from the floor 12-36 .333 UNDER - looks comfortable
Ajiboye - 1.5 Blocks and Steals/game 8+4 2.00 OVER - earning the minutes
DeAveiro -120.5 assists (3.88/GM) 28 4.66 OVER - showing the leadership
Williamson - 1.5 assist per turnover 7 / 5 1.16 UNDER - barely
Schweiger - 11.25 points per game 71 11.8 OVER - All Freshman Team candidate
Stafford - 16.5 points per game 105 17.5 OVER - Newcomer of the Year candidate
Team Field Goals Attempted 60.5/gm 376 62.66 OVER - barely
Standings:
Leaderboard:
ME, AlaskaCrusader19, and CoVuFan with 7
HumbleOpinion, HistoryMan with 6
So we have 4 wins... and these games ahead of the valley
@ Central Michigan (2-4) Wins: South Florida, Siena, Losses: Oklahoma, ULM, Florida State, Stetson
Before Valpo: @ Ohio State
@ Virginia Tech (5-1) Wins: Coppin State, Campbell, Wofford, Boise State, Iowa State, Loss: South Carolina
Before Valpo: Auburn, Louisville
Chicago State (2-6) - 3pm December 16th Wins: Southern Indiana and Morgan State (both are winless). Losses: Bowling Green, Mercer, CalState Northridge, Southern Illinois, Northern Colorado
Before Valpo: Tennessee-Martin, Loyola, Delaware State, Stetson, St.Thomas(MN), Northwestern
Samford (4-2) 1pm Tuesday December 19th Wins: South Carolina State, Alabama State, Merrimack, North Carolina A&T; losses: Purdue (by 53) Virginia Commonwealth.
Before Valpo: Louisiana, Alabama A&M, Belmont
@Elon (3-3) Wins: East Tennessee State, IUPUIIII, Holy Cross, Losses: Wake Forest, North Dakota, Winthrop
Before Valpo: Presbyterian, Radford, NC-Greensboro, South Carolina,
Can we go 3-2 in these 5 games?
Quote from: talksalot on November 25, 2023, 07:37:22 PM
So we have 4 wins... and these games ahead of the valley
@ Central Michigan (2-4) Wins: South Florida, Siena, Losses: Oklahoma, ULM, Florida State, Stetson
Before Valpo: @ Ohio State
@ Virginia Tech (5-1) Wins: Coppin State, Campbell, Wofford, Boise State, Iowa State, Loss: South Carolina
Before Valpo: Auburn, Louisville
Chicago State (2-6) - 3pm December 16th Wins: Southern Indiana and Morgan State (both are winless). Losses: Bowling Green, Mercer, CalState Northridge, Southern Illinois, Northern Colorado
Before Valpo: Tennessee-Martin, Loyola, Delaware State, Stetson, St.Thomas(MN), Northwestern
Samford (4-2) 1pm Tuesday December 19th Wins: South Carolina State, Alabama State, Merrimack, North Carolina A&T; losses: Purdue (by 53) Virginia Commonwealth.
Before Valpo: Louisiana, Alabama A&M, Belmont
@Elon (3-3) Wins: East Tennessee State, IUPUIIII, Holy Cross, Losses: Wake Forest, North Dakota, Winthrop
Before Valpo: Presbyterian, Radford, NC-Greensboro, South Carolina,
Can we go 3-2 in these 5 games?
Would love to go 3-2 in these games. Massey has us favored against CMU and Chicago St, and 49% against both Samford and Elon (Southern win isn't included yet)
https://masseyratings.com/cb2024/8361
Unfortunately, T-Rank and Team Rankings has us only favored against Chicago St.
https://barttorvik.com/team.php?year=20
https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/valparaiso-beacons/projections
We are playing better, but need to improve against teams like these to compete in the Valley. I'm not looking for 10-10 in the Valley,just competitive games, especially at home.
I say yes, we go 3-2 in these games.
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Quote from: historyman on November 08, 2023, 05:32:13 PM
I couldn't find Jake diving for a loose ball (there were some pics of the Valpo HS Diving team, though) but I did find this. Especially with Jake wearing the nose guarding mask after he broke his nose diving for a loose ball.
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As I recall, Jake wasn't much of a shooter in his first couple years, but by his last year he was maybe our only outside threat. Could Darius develop that way?
Diebler was a scorer and solid 3 point shooter in HS, and was hesitant to shoot his first few seasons at Valpo. Pretty similar to what Seth Colclasure ended up doing at Valpo. Not sure that Darius directly compares
Quote from: valpotx on November 26, 2023, 01:23:39 AM
Diebler was a scorer and solid 3 point shooter in HS, and was hesitant to shoot his first few seasons at Valpo. Pretty similar to what Seth Colclasure ended up doing at Valpo. Not sure that Darius directly compares
Only to the extent that in their first couple of years neither player could hit the lake from the end of the pier from the field, yet maybe now Darius like Diebler in their third year are starting to hit hit some shots from the field.
Quote from: talksalot on November 25, 2023, 07:37:22 PM
@ Virginia Tech (5-1) Wins: Coppin State, Campbell, Wofford, Boise State, Iowa State, Loss: South Carolina
Before Valpo: Auburn, Louisville
and, At noon (CT) on Sunday, VT will be on ESPN in the Championship Game of the "ESPN Invitational" against Florida Atlantic.
Quote from: talksalot on November 26, 2023, 07:01:06 AM
Quote from: talksalot on November 25, 2023, 07:37:22 PM
@ Virginia Tech (5-1) Wins: Coppin State, Campbell, Wofford, Boise State, Iowa State, Loss: South Carolina
Before Valpo: Auburn, Louisville
and, At noon (CT) on Sunday, VT will be on ESPN in the Championship Game of the "ESPN Invitational" against Florida Atlantic.
Per Virginia Tech website Valpo at Virginia Tech on Saturday December 9 it is 12:00 noon Eastern time (11:00 a.m. CT)
https://hokiesports.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule (https://hokiesports.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule)
Current as of December 9, 2023 (before VA Tech game)
Edwards 14.7 points & rebounds UNDER
Palm 5 rebounds UNDER
Barrett 0 for 4 threes (probably be removed) UNDER
Weatherspoon 20 for 59 .339 UNDER
Ajiboye 8 blocks/9 games . 889 UNDER
DeAveiro 45 for 9 games x 31 games = 155 assists (on target for) OVER
Williamson 10 assists / 6 TOs 1.667 OVER
Schweiger 11.8 pts per game OVER
Stafford 18.8 pts per game OVER
Team FGs Attempted 568/9 63.1 OVER
All Newcomer MVC Team TBD
All League Team TBD
Valley Road Victories TBD
Final Standing in Valley TBD
Final Standing in Valley TBD
Total Wins 4 wins, 9 gms 13.778 per 31 gms (before Valley season) OVER
you know when you have 5 or fewer correct you could have flipped a coin & done just as well.
Yes, folks, if you throw out the Barrett item it's 10 applicable items., I have 4 correct!!! :-(
Updating through game #12 - Samford...
Edwards - 15.5 points and rebounds 106+72 14.83 UNDER
Palm - 5.7 rebounds per game 46 4.18 UNDER
Barrett - 0.9 3ptrs per game played 1/3 .33 UNDER
Weatherspoon - 41.6% from the floor 27/77 .377 UNDER
Ajiboye - 1.5 Blocks and Steals/game 10+9 1.58 OVER
DeAveiro -120.5 assists (3.88/GM) 67 5.58 OVER
Williamson - 1.5 assist per turnover 12/6 2.00 OVER
Schweiger - 11.25 points per game 130 10.8 UNDER
Stafford - 16.5 points per game 194 16.2 UNDER
Team Field Goals Attempted 60.5/gm 744 62.00 OVER
There are 10 categories...
Historyman with 8 Missed on DeAveiro and Williamson
ValpoPal with 7 Missed the same two, plus the shots per game
Vu84v2 and Humble Opinion with 6
Merry Christmas to one and all
Quote from: talksalot on December 20, 2023, 09:45:53 AMHistoryman with 8 Missed on DeAveiro and Williamson
Very happy to be missing on De and Sherm.
Quote from: historyman on December 20, 2023, 12:57:13 PM
Quote from: talksalot on December 20, 2023, 09:45:53 AMHistoryman with 8 Missed on DeAveiro and Williamson
Very happy to be missing on De and Sherm.
Same here. I didn't expect DeAveiro to be leading the team with 33 minutes per game to get so many assists, but his increase in scoring has made that possible. Also, Jahari (I think you meant Jahari rather than Sherm) has been very impressive with his discipline to avoid turnovers, especially as a freshman, averaging only 1 turnover every 30 minutes of playing time!
IT's been a while... so I thought I'd refresh the stats lines... gotta give props to Pgmado for his selection of the O/U categories. Some of these are spot-on...
Edwards - 15.5 points and rebounds 201+130 13.24 UNDER
Palm - 5.7 rebounds per game 65 in 20 3.25 UNDER
Barrett - 0.9 3ptrs per game played 3/10 .33 UNDER
Weatherspoon - 41.6% from the floor 46/134 .343 UNDER
Ajiboye - 1.5 Blocks and Steals/game 20+15 1.40 UNDER
DeAveiro -120.5 assists (3.88/GM) 130 5.2 OVER SEE NOTE BELOW
Williamson - 1.5 assist per turnover 23/22 1.05 UNDER
Schweiger - 11.25 points per game 306 12.2 OVER
Stafford - 16.5 points per game 359 (22gm) 16.32 UNDER
Team Field Goals Attempted 60.5/gm 1519 60.76 OVER
All Newcomer Team for MVC - 0.5 N/A
All League Team 1st, 2nd, 3rd - 0.5 N/A
Valley Road Victories - 1.5 1 (Remaining possibilities: @Missouri State, @Murray State and @Northern Iowa)
Final Standing in Valley - 10.5 N/A
Total Wins - 10.5 N/A
Here are the top ten Assist seasons in the Valpo Record book...
1. John McIlvain 1982-83 197
2. Ali Berdiel 2003-04 185
3. John McIlvain 1983-84 165
4. Bryce Drew 1995-96 164
5. Scott Anselm 1988-89 163
6. Bryce Drew 1994-95 162
7. Keith Carter 2015-16 161
8. Nick Edwards 2022-23 160
9. Bryce Drew 1997-98 155
10. Ali Berdiel 2002-03 146...
Darius has 130 with 7 games to go, he's averaging 5.2 assists per game, if he keeps that up, he will vault up to #2. I see that 8,7,6,5,4,3 are all in increments of 1. Now that's a weird stat.
Anyway... The 2024 Over Under Leaderboard through Belmont2 is
Vu84v2 and historyman have a score 7
vok22, alaskacrusader19, valpoPal all have 6
Vu84v2 missing on Barrett and Schwieger; and missed on DeAveiro, which is now a lock.
historyman missing on Ajiboye and Schwieger; and missed on DeAveiro.