2011-12 Horizon League Tie-breakers/Scenarios
1. Valparaiso (13-4)
-- -- Has clinched No. 1 seed
2. Cleveland State (11-6) – vs. Wright State
-- -- Has clinched No. 2 seed
3. Detroit (10-7) – at Youngstown State
-- -- Has clinched No. 3 seed
4. Butler (11-7) – at Valpo
-- Clinches No. 4 seed with loss AND CSU win AND DET win AND UWM loss (BU, DET 11-7 – DET swept BU)
-- Clinches No. 5 seed with loss AND CSU win AND DET win AND UWM win (BU, UWM, DET 11-7 – BU 1-3, DET 3-1, UWM 2-2)
5. Milwaukee (10-7) – at Loyola
-- Clinches No. 4 seed with win AND CSU win AND BU loss AND DET win (BU, DET, UWM 11-7 – UWM 2-2, DET 3-1, BU 1-3)
-- Clinches No. 6 seed with loss AND DET win (UWM, YSU 10-8 – YSU swept reg. season)
6. Youngstown State (10-8) – vs. Detroit
-- Clinches No. 5 seed with loss AND UWM loss AND GB win (YSU, UWM, GB 10-8 – YSU 3-1, UWM 2-2, GB 1-3)
-- Clinches No. 6 seed with loss AND UWM win AND GB win in any scenario in which DET or UWM finishes ahead of BU (YSU, GB 10-8 – split reg. season; YSU, GB each beat Valpo, so would depend on 2nd place team – if BU, GB gets No. 6 seed; if CSU, each team split, forcing it down ladder; if DET, YSU gets No. 6 seed; if UWM, YSU gets No. 6 seed)
7. Green Bay (9-8) – at UIC
-- Has clinched No. 7 seed
8. Wright State (7-11) – at Cleveland State
-- Has clinched No. 8 seed
9. UIC (3-14) – vs. Green Bay
-- Has clinched No. 9 seed
10. Loyola (1-16) – vs. Milwaukee
-- Has clinched No. 10 seed
Looks like Butler is on the way to a 5 seed! Milwaukee stormed out of the gate at 20-7 against Loyola so far...
Kinda looks like we'll see either Milwaukee or Butler on Saturday night. Playing either again is scary
Wright State has a history of beating Butler. I can see BU losing in the first round at home...
Quote from: MattCarter on February 25, 2012, 03:33:48 PM
Kinda looks like we'll see either Milwaukee or Butler on Saturday night. Playing either again is scary
Remember, the bracket is reseeded after the second round, so we'll play the lowest remaining seed. Cheer for some upsets!
Quote from: crusaderguy08 on February 25, 2012, 03:40:43 PMQuote from: MattCarter on February 25, 2012, 03:33:48 PMKinda looks like we'll see either Milwaukee or Butler on Saturday night. Playing either again is scary
Remember, the bracket is reseeded after the second round, so we'll play the lowest remaining seed. Cheer for some upsets!
Its always hard for me to cheer for Detroit but anyone else is fine really. A chance to erase that UWM loss would b nice.
Quote from: crusaderguy08 on February 25, 2012, 03:40:43 PM
Quote from: MattCarter on February 25, 2012, 03:33:48 PM
Kinda looks like we'll see either Milwaukee or Butler on Saturday night. Playing either again is scary
Remember, the bracket is reseeded after the second round, so we'll play the lowest remaining seed. Cheer for some upsets!
Nope, no re-seeding. We're guaranteed to play the 4-5-8-9 survivor.
Quote from: vusupporter on February 25, 2012, 03:55:04 PM
Quote from: crusaderguy08 on February 25, 2012, 03:40:43 PM
Quote from: MattCarter on February 25, 2012, 03:33:48 PM
Kinda looks like we'll see either Milwaukee or Butler on Saturday night. Playing either again is scary
Remember, the bracket is reseeded after the second round, so we'll play the lowest remaining seed. Cheer for some upsets!
Nope, no re-seeding. We're guaranteed to play the 4-5-8-9 survivor.
Are you positive?
I think the fact that Detroit is on the opposite side of the bracket is good news. It's fair to say they've played as well as anybody over the last month. Additionally, from a talent standpoint, they're second to none.
Quote from: crusaderguy08 on February 25, 2012, 04:04:03 PM
Quote from: vusupporter on February 25, 2012, 03:55:04 PM
Quote from: crusaderguy08 on February 25, 2012, 03:40:43 PM
Quote from: MattCarter on February 25, 2012, 03:33:48 PM
Kinda looks like we'll see either Milwaukee or Butler on Saturday night. Playing either again is scary
Remember, the bracket is reseeded after the second round, so we'll play the lowest remaining seed. Cheer for some upsets!
Nope, no re-seeding. We're guaranteed to play the 4-5-8-9 survivor.
Are you positive?
There is no reseeding.
No reseeding on the official bracket.
So, it's whoever survives of Wright State, UIC, Butler, and at the moment it's still either Milwaukee or YSU. Milwaukee by 9.
Milwaukee it is. So, if I have it right it's
1 Valpo 14-4
2 CSU 12-6
3 Detroit 11-7
4 Milwaukee 11-7
5 Butler 11-7
6 YSU 10-8
7 GB 10-8 (trusting Jim on the tiebreak here)
8 Wright State 7-10
9 UIC 3-14
10 Loyola 1-16
So, Milwaukee-UIC, Butler-Wright State. And we play the winner.
Quote from: agibson on February 25, 2012, 05:23:03 PM
Milwaukee it is. So, if I have it right it's
1 Valpo 14-4
2 CSU 12-6
3 Detroit111-7
4 Milwaukee 11-7
5 Butler 11-7
6 YSU 10-8
7 GB 10-8 (trusting Jim on the tiebreak here)
8 Wright State 7-10
9 UIC 3-14
10 Loyola 1-16
So, Milwaukee-UIC, Butler-Wright State. And we play the winner.
how did detroit not get the 1 seed if they went 111-7? ;)
There's a wise guy in every crowd ;) Fixed.
Quote from: agibson on February 25, 2012, 06:14:09 PM
There's a wise guy in every crowd ;) Fixed.
it's the smart ass in me. the only part of me that my mom's glad is currently 1100 miles away. ;D
Quote from: vuweathernerd on February 25, 2012, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: agibson on February 25, 2012, 06:14:09 PM
There's a wise guy in every crowd ;) Fixed.
it's the smart ass in me. the only part of me that my mom's glad is currently 1100 miles away. ;D
Is that 1100 or should it be 100? ;)
Quote from: humbleopinion on February 25, 2012, 07:03:44 PM
Quote from: vuweathernerd on February 25, 2012, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: agibson on February 25, 2012, 06:14:09 PM
There's a wise guy in every crowd ;) Fixed.
it's the smart ass in me. the only part of me that my mom's glad is currently 1100 miles away. ;D
Is that 1100 or should it be 100? ;)
touche, good sir. but no, i actually am 1100 miles from home right now, sadly.
Quote from: valpotx on February 25, 2012, 03:25:16 PM
Looks like Butler is on the way to a 5 seed! Milwaukee stormed out of the gate at 20-7 against Loyola so far...
Poor Butler - a 5 seed, the lowest for them since 2005. Awwwww .
Friday's game sure had huge ramifications for them. I really did not think that all of the negative scenarios would actually happen to drop them from the 2 to the 5 seed.