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Title: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on November 07, 2014, 07:42:01 PM
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Last year's thread: http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=1621.0 (http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=1621.0)
Results:  http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=1621.msg44248#msg44248 (http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=1621.msg44248#msg44248)

OVER or UNDER?

1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg

2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg

3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs

4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg

5)  Darien Walker:  78% FT%

6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG%

7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg

8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG%

10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg

11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg

12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG%

13)  Team:  20 wins

14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs

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Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: historyman on November 08, 2014, 09:20:27 AM
1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg        over

2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg       over

3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs       over http://www.answers.com/Q/What_does_GS_mean_in_basketball_stats (http://www.answers.com/Q/What_does_GS_mean_in_basketball_stats)

4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg          under

5)  Damien Walker:  78% FT%  over

6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG%    under

7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg   over

8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG%    under

9)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg     under

10)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg        over

11)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG% over

12)  Team:  20 wins                  over

13)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs  68.4
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: Pgmado on November 08, 2014, 11:30:56 AM
1. Keith Carter: Under 3.7 apg

2. E.Victor Nickerson: Over 15 mpg

3. Tevonn Walker: Over 4.1 games started

4. Max Joseph: Under 1.0 spg

5. Damien Walker: Over 78% FT

6. David Skara: Under 49%

7. Vashil Fernandez: Over 2.0 bpg

8. Nick Davidson: Under 45% FG

9. Jubril Adekoya: Over 4.9 rpg

10. Alec Peters: Over 16.9 ppg

11. David Chadwick: Over 35% FG

12. Team: Under 20 wins

13. 68.7 ppg
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: wh on November 08, 2014, 12:18:34 PM
1. Keith Carter: Under 3.7 apg

2. E.Victor Nickerson: Over 15 mpg

3. Tevonn Walker: Over 4.1 gs

4. Max Joseph: Under 1.0 spg

5. Damien Walker: Under 78% FT

6. David Skara: Under 49% 2FG%

7. Vashil Fernandez: Under 2.0 bpg

8. Nick Davidson: Under 45% FG

9. Jubril Adekoya: Under 4.9 rpg

10. Alec Peters: Over 16.9 ppg

11. David Chadwick: Under 35% 3FG%

12. Team: Over 20 wins

13. 68.4 ppg
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: valpotx on November 08, 2014, 12:19:10 PM
1)  Keith Carter:  Under 3.7 apg

2)  EV Nickerson:  Over 15 mpg

3)  Tevonn Walker:  Under 4.1 games started

4)  Max Joseph:  Under 1.0 spg

5)  Damien Walker:  Under 78% FT%

6)  David Skara:  Over 49% 2FG%

7)  Vashil Fernandez:  Under 2.0 bpg

8)  Nick Davidson:  Under 45% FG%

10)  Jubril Adekoya:  Over 4.9 rpg

11)  Alec Peters:  Over 16.9 ppg

12)  David Chadwick:  Under 35% 3FG%

13)  Team:  Over 20 wins

14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs - 72.3
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: wh on November 08, 2014, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: historyman on November 08, 2014, 09:20:27 AM
3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs
i think you have this labeled wrong   http://www.answers.com/Q/What_does_GS_mean_in_basketball_stats (http://www.answers.com/Q/What_does_GS_mean_in_basketball_stats)

I see what he did here.  Had he just used 4 games started, 4 would have been neither over nor under.  By using 4.1, every possibility has an over/under outcome. 
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on November 08, 2014, 03:38:18 PM
Quote from: wh on November 08, 2014, 03:08:40 PMI see what he did here.  Had he just used 4 games started, 4 would have been neither over nor under.  By using 4.1, every possibility has an over/under outcome. 
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Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: historyman on November 08, 2014, 05:03:14 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on November 08, 2014, 03:38:18 PM
Quote from: wh on November 08, 2014, 03:08:40 PMI see what he did here.  Had he just used 4 games started, 4 would have been neither over nor under.  By using 4.1, every possibility has an over/under outcome.
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okay, but what about #9?
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on November 08, 2014, 08:41:35 PM
we're trying to keep things positive here at Die Duesenberg Center For Der Studien den Overunden, so we go right from eight to ten.
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: talksalot on November 08, 2014, 09:31:18 PM
OK... let's see how my memory is.  Last year, after one week... I was in First Place... at the end of the season... I was deadlast... Redemption is Mine...(cough cough)

1)  Keith Carter:  Under 3.7 apg    Under

2)  EV Nickerson:  Over 15 mpg     Over

3)  Tevonn Walker:  Under 4.1 games started    Under

4)  Max Joseph:  Under 1.0 spg       Under

5)  Damien Walker:  Under 78% FT%      Over

6)  David Skara:  Over 49% 2FG%     Over

7)  Vashil Fernandez:  Under 2.0 bpg     Over

8)  Nick Davidson:  Under 45% FG%    Under

10)  Jubril Adekoya:  Over 4.9 rpg     Over

11)  Alec Peters:  Over 16.9 ppg     Over

12)  David Chadwick:  Under 35% 3FG%     Under

13)  Team:  Over 20 wins     Under ~~but I hope I'm wrong.

14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs - 72.3     Under


"Wait'll Next Year"





Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: bbtds on November 08, 2014, 11:03:50 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on November 08, 2014, 08:41:35 PM
we're trying to keep things positive here at Die Duesenberg Center For Der Studien den Overunden, so we go right from eight to ten.


Falsch!  "acht bis zehn"
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: classof2014 on November 09, 2014, 10:31:36 AM
1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg Under

2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg Over

3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs Over

4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg Under

5)  Damien Walker:  78% FT% Over

6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG% Under

7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg Under

8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG% Under

10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg Over

11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg Over

12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG% Over

13)  Team:  20 wins Over

14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs 69.4
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: bbtds on November 09, 2014, 03:40:59 PM
Quote from: wh on November 08, 2014, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: historyman on November 08, 2014, 09:20:27 AM
3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs
i think you have this labeled wrong   http://www.answers.com/Q/What_does_GS_mean_in_basketball_stats (http://www.answers.com/Q/What_does_GS_mean_in_basketball_stats)

I see what he did here.  Had he just used 4 games started, 4 would have been neither over nor under.  By using 4.1, every possibility has an over/under outcome.

If this is true then why didn't LAA do that with some of the other stats? Team wins could end up exactly 20. Why not 20.1 wins?

And why not explain it before confusing historyman and pgmado?

It could have been explained to which significant figure the stat value would be carried out to. As in #13/14 which was explained as going out to "3 sig figs."
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: bbtds on November 09, 2014, 03:55:52 PM
1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg>>>>>OVER

2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg>>>>>OVER

3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs>>>>>OVER

4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg>>>>>UNDER

5)  Damien Walker:  78% FT%>>>>>OVER

6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG%>>>>>OVER

7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg>>>>>OVER

8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG%>>>>>OVER

9)  Bryce Drew  1.5 technical fouls>>>>>OVER

10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg>>>>>OVER

11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg>>>>>OVER

12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG%>>>>>OVER

13)  Team:  20 wins>>>>>OVER

14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs>>>>>62.9
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on November 09, 2014, 08:11:50 PM
Quote from: bbtds on November 09, 2014, 03:40:59 PM
If this is true then why didn't LAA do that with some of the other stats? Team wins could end up exactly 20. Why not 20.1 wins?

And why not explain it before confusing historyman and pgmado?

It could have been explained to which significant figure the stat value would be carried out to. As in #13/14 which was explained as going out to "3 sig figs."


That one is always 20.  But you're right, maybe it should be 19.99 ;)

I didn't foresee it confusing anyone, especially two of the brighter lights.  But you can't slip anything past wh.

Speaking of confusing...your last sentence.
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on November 09, 2014, 08:20:16 PM
Also, speaking of confusing, WH wins the "pessimist" award for picking the most "unders" and yet picking the team to do >20W.

Then bbtds wins the "optimist" award for only picking "over" in all but one, and yet picking the team to score under 63 ppg.

BTW,  I realized where the missing # went...not that it matters now, but it was 7 GP for Chandler Levingston-Simon.

Oh well.  Maybe a tiebreaker, since we have 7 entries and 4 of them picked the same 2 numbers to 3 sig figs...
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: EddieCabot on November 10, 2014, 08:31:41 AM

OVER or UNDER?

1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg  UNDER

2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg  OVER

3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs  OVER

4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg  UNDER

5)  Damien Walker:  78% FT%  UNDER

6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG%  UNDER

7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg  OVER

8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG%  UNDER

10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg  OVER

11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg  OVER

12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG%  UNDER

13)  Team:  20 wins  OVER (assuming this includes all the non-DI games)

14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs  69.4

Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: Valpo2010 on November 10, 2014, 09:22:27 AM
OVER or UNDER?

1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg  UNDER

2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg  OVER

3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs  OVER

4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg  UNDER

5)  Damien Walker:  78% FT%  OVER

6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG%  UNDER

7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg  OVER

8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG%  UNDER

10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg  OVER

11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg  OVER

12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG%  UNDER

13)  Team:  20 wins  OVER

14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs  70.1
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: vusupporter on November 10, 2014, 09:28:54 AM
Quote...but it was 7 GP for Chandler Levingston-Simon.

Well, that would have been the easiest one ever, since he has to sit out this season.
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: valpopal on November 10, 2014, 10:46:28 AM
I am still waiting for the over/under on how long it will take posters in this thread to notice Valpo doesn't have a player named Damien Walker!  ???
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on November 10, 2014, 11:15:48 AM
Quote from: vusupporter on November 10, 2014, 09:28:54 AMWell, that would have been the easiest one ever, since he has to sit out this season.
hence i deleted it

Quote from: valpopal on November 10, 2014, 10:46:28 AMWell, that would have been the easiest one ever, since he has to sit out this season.
heh heh...*clears throat*...*loosens tie*...tough crowd

Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: historyman on November 10, 2014, 11:43:41 AM
Quote from: valpopal on November 10, 2014, 10:46:28 AMI am still waiting for the over/under on how long it will take posters in this thread to notice Valpo doesn't have a player named Damien Walker!  ???

Once you learn how to spell and pronounce a name correctly it's a lot better than having three Matts or Tom, Dick and Harry in your starting line-up.   ::)
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: bbtds on November 10, 2014, 12:05:29 PM
Quote from: historyman on November 10, 2014, 11:43:41 AMit's a lot better than having three Matts

Whoa, whoa, whoa.......I wish the whole Cardinal starting line-up was named Matt. Except for Yadier, Kolten and Jhonny, of course.   ;D
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: ARCInsider on November 10, 2014, 01:12:37 PM
1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg- UNDER

2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg- OVER

3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs- OVER

4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg- UNDER

5)  Darien Walker:  78% FT%- OVER

6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG%- UNDER

7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg- OVER

8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG%- OVER

10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg- OVER

11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg- OVER

12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG%- UNDER

13)  Team:  20 wins- UNDER

14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs- 62.3

Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: covufan on November 10, 2014, 01:15:07 PM
OVER or UNDER?

1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg  -  Under

2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg  -  Over

3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs  -  Over

4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg  -  Under

5)  Darien Walker:  78% FT%  -  Over

6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG%  -  Over

7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg  -  Over

8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG%  -  Under

10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg  -  Under

11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg  -  Over

12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG%  -  Over

13)  Team:  20 wins  -  Over

14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs  -  72.7


I'm assuming that we'll need to calculate Skara's 2pt FG%, as Valpo doesn't publish stats for this.  I'm guessing that team win 21 may come in the HL tournament or other postseason game. 
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: bbtds on November 10, 2014, 01:54:45 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on November 09, 2014, 08:20:16 PMThen bbtds wins the "optimist" award for only picking "over" in all but one, and yet picking the team to score under 63 ppg.

It just means Valpo will play good defense and win close games. Some players will shoot poorly. Anybody else see that after the exhibition game? I was not there but others filled me in.
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on November 10, 2014, 02:08:15 PM
We will win maybe 10 games if we score 63 pg.

Not to help people out here (you're not alone, bbtds), but 63 pg would have put you like 20th worst in the country last year.

So...not telling you what we got last year, but, uh, it's quite a bit higher than that.
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: bbtds on November 10, 2014, 02:58:50 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on November 10, 2014, 02:08:15 PM
We will win maybe 10 games if we score 63 pg.

Not to help people out here (you're not alone, bbtds), but 63 pg would have put you like 20th worst in the country last year.

So...not telling you what we got last year, but, uh, it's quite a bit higher than that.

Not that I want to go here but I wonder what Butler's ppg was both years they played in the national championship game.
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: covufan on November 10, 2014, 03:43:13 PM
Quote from: bbtds on November 10, 2014, 02:58:50 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on November 10, 2014, 02:08:15 PM
We will win maybe 10 games if we score 63 pg.

Not to help people out here (you're not alone, bbtds), but 63 pg would have put you like 20th worst in the country last year.

So...not telling you what we got last year, but, uh, it's quite a bit higher than that.

Not that I want to go here but I wonder what Butler's ppg was both years they played in the national championship game.
68.7 in 2010 and 71.2 in 2011.  But their opponents scoring was much less.  Oh, and they won close games, especially in HL play.
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: covufan on November 10, 2014, 03:48:11 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on November 10, 2014, 02:08:15 PM
We will win maybe 10 games if we score 63 pg.

Not to help people out here (you're not alone, bbtds), but 63 pg would have put you like 20th worst in the country last year.

So...not telling you what we got last year, but, uh, it's quite a bit higher than that.
I went with a little higher than we had last year, hoping that our TO margin will be less and that we pick up the pace a bit this year.
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on November 10, 2014, 05:42:09 PM
Oh, believe me, I paid attention to what you picked, since you're defending champ :)

I suppose i could play...since it's not like I could tamper with stuff.  Nah.  More fun watching from the sidelines.
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: historyman on November 10, 2014, 06:38:10 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on November 10, 2014, 05:42:09 PMOh, believe me, I paid attention to what you picked, since you're defending champ :) I suppose i could play...since it's not like I could tamper with stuff.  Nah.  More fun watching from the sidelines.





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Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on November 10, 2014, 06:47:49 PM
Ahen?  Do you need to clear your throat?

It could be your answer to the perennial question of which came first.

Or perhaps it's crossing the road...
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: Kyle321n on November 11, 2014, 11:26:58 AM
The sure to be wrong, awful selections of a well documented expert. Also I added a #9 because why don't we have a fun one for Bryce?

1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg - OVER
2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg - OVER
3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs - OVER
4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg  - UNDER
5)  Darien Walker:  78% FT%  - OVER
6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG% - UNDER
7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg - UNDER
8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG% - UNDER
9)  Bryce Drew: 1.5 Technical Fouls - UNDER
10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg - OVER
11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg - OVER
12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG% - UNDER(if he doesn't shoot one does it count for 0%?)
13)  Team:  20 wins - OVER
14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs - 73.4
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: bbtds on November 11, 2014, 11:48:06 AM
Quote from: bbtds on November 10, 2014, 01:54:45 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on November 09, 2014, 08:20:16 PMThen bbtds wins the "optimist" award for only picking "over" in all but one, and yet picking the team to score under 63 ppg.

It just means Valpo will play good defense and win close games. Some players will shoot poorly. Anybody else see that after the exhibition game? I was not there but others filled me in.

This isn't like the "Price is Right?" Going over the actual retail price is automatically wrong. I don't know why I was thinking like that. But I will leave my prediction.
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: valpo84 on November 11, 2014, 02:00:25 PM
1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg - OVER
2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg - OVER
3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs - OVER
4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg  - OVER
5)  Darien Walker:  78% FT%  - UNDER
6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG% - UNDER
7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg - UNDER
8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG% - OVER
9)  Bryce Drew: 1.5 Technical Fouls - OVER (by Christmas)
10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg - UNDER
11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg - UNDER
12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG% - UNDER
13)  Team:  20 wins - OVER
14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs - 70.235

Valpo in the Bryce Drew era has a very good record when scoring 70 or more points. Since 2011-12 season (The Bryce Era), by rough calculations, Valpo is 47-8 when scoring =>70 and an amazing 29-2 in conference/conf tourney games.
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: Dave_2010 on November 11, 2014, 09:00:47 PM

1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg - under
2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg - over
3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs - over
4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg  - under
5)  Darien Walker:  78% FT%  - over
6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG% - over
7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg - under
8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG% - under
9)  Bryce Drew: 1.5 Technical Fouls - over
10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg - over
11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg - over
12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG% - under
13)  Team:  20 wins - over
14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs - 71.9
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: valpo4life on November 13, 2014, 12:57:34 PM
1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg - over
2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg - over
3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs - over
4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg  - under
5)  Darien Walker:  78% FT%  - under
6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG% - over
7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg - over
8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG% - under
9)  Bryce Drew: 1.5 Technical Fouls - under
10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg - over
11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg - over
12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG% - under
13)  Team:  20 wins - over
14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs - 69.4
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: covufan on November 13, 2014, 05:12:48 PM
Quote from: covufan on November 10, 2014, 01:15:07 PM
OVER or UNDER?

1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg  -  Under

2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg  -  Over

3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs  -  Over

4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg  -  Under

5)  Darien Walker:  78% FT%  -  Over

6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG%  -  Over

7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg  -  Over

8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG%  -  Under

10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg  -  Under

11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg  -  Over

12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG%  -  Over

13)  Team:  20 wins  -  Over

14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs  -  72.7


I'm assuming that we'll need to calculate Skara's 2pt FG%, as Valpo doesn't publish stats for this.  I'm guessing that team win 21 may come in the HL tournament or other postseason game. 
I see where #9 is now Technical Fouls for Bryce.  I'll take the Over
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: FWalum on November 13, 2014, 08:48:20 PM
1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg - under
2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg - over
3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs - over
4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg  - under
5)  Darien Walker:  78% FT%  - under
6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG% - under
7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg - over
8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG% - under
9)  Bryce Drew: 1.5 Technical Fouls - under
10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg - over
11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg - under
12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG% - under
13)  Team:  20 wins - over
14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs - 70.8
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: justducky on November 13, 2014, 11:29:39 PM
Just for the sake of brevity, while going with my strongest feelings I am only going to answer 1) Carter-under 2) Nickerson-over and 9) Bryce-over. By doing so I think have insured that I will not finish last.    ;D 
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: a3uge on November 14, 2014, 08:33:10 AM
1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg Under
3.7 APG would match Buggs' senior year career high number, and the highest APG number by a Valpo player since 4.0APG by Jarryd Loyd.

2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg Over
Close one - injury issues wants me to push the Under, but Vashil being in constant foul trouble pushes me to over

3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs  Over

4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg Under
Not enough playing time

5)  Darien Walker:  78% FT% Under
We always suck at free throws

6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG% Over
Most his shots will come around rim

7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg Under
Maybe barely.

8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG% Over

9) Under
Whatever this one is, it's the under.

10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg Under

11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg Under
He's POY if he puts up 17ppg. Broekhoff wasn't even able to do this.

12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG%  Over
Not this one again!

13)  Team:  20 wins Over
Why not?

14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs
70.000
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: bbtds on November 14, 2014, 09:51:39 AM
How late can I change my #14 the tie-breaker?



(http://exclusive-executive-resumes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/nervous.jpg)

Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: historyman on November 14, 2014, 11:17:12 AM
Quote from: a3uge on November 14, 2014, 08:33:10 AM9) Under Whatever this one is, it's the under.
Are you sure? ??? ??? ?

(http://cdn.solecollector.com/media/up/2014/04/images/1998-terrel-baker-florida-state-bryce-drew-valparaiso-nike-air-mz3.jpg)

(http://nbccollegebasketballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/bryce-drew1.jpg)

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Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on November 30, 2014, 09:09:42 PM
http://statsheet.com/mcb/teams/valparaiso/team_stats?type=all (http://statsheet.com/mcb/teams/valparaiso/team_stats?type=all)

I give you some stats, but you should still peruse the link.  After a month:
T1 in the nation in wins.
4th in the nation in FGM.
4th in the nation in 3FGM.
14th in blocks.
...
13th in the country in TOs (most).

Can't win 'em all.

Speaking of which--the results at the one month mark.
                           Is   Result
Carter (3.7 APG)   3.75   O
Nickerson (15 MPG)   12.3   U
T Walker (4.1 GS)   O   O  First one to be a done deal.
Joseph (1.0 SPG)   0.38   U
D Walker (78% FT%)   52.6   U
Skara (49% 2FG%)   57.7   O
Fernandez (2.0 BPG)   2.6   O
Davidson (45% FG%)   25%   U
Adekoya (4.9 RPG)   5.5   O
Peters (16.9 PPG)   19.3   O
Chadwick (35% 3FG)   33.3   U
Team:  (20 W)      O
TB: Team PPG   75.4   

We are, as a group, 63% right so far.  So, good.

It's not close:
1) Valpo4Life 11
2) EddieCabot 9
3) Kyle321n 8
4) valpotx 8
5) Dave_2010 8
6) FWalum 8
7) Valpo2010 8
8) covufan 7
9) talksalot 7
10) wh 7
11) bbtds 7
12) classof2014 6
13) historyman 6
14) ARCInsider 6
15) valpo84 5
16) a3uge 5
17) pgmado 5
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: BrettD07 on November 30, 2014, 09:36:37 PM
Those "total" stats are all right, but come on: We're among a relatively small group of teams that have played 8 games--and considering we're playing halfway-decently, of course we're going to be near the top in those stats.


More impressive: How about those percentage stats?  We're in the top 10% of D1 for many of them.  Only that free throw % is less than stellar (i.e., miserable).
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on November 30, 2014, 09:51:19 PM
Quote from: BrettD07 on November 30, 2014, 09:36:37 PMThose "total" stats are all right, but come on: We're among a relatively small group of teams that have played 8 games
(http://ib3.huluim.com/video/7596082?region=US&size=600x400)
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: talksalot on December 02, 2014, 04:34:58 PM
I know what stat we're missing on this list... Time of Possession.    Oren will know what I mean.
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: covufan on December 22, 2014, 09:44:39 AM
Looking forward to the next update - after the James Madison game, right?
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 22, 2014, 10:21:48 AM
yep!

(http://s1321.photobucket.com/user/otr18wheeler/media/gifs/kfcat_zps35831df3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 29, 2014, 10:09:59 PM
the results at the 2 month mark:  identical.

(Although if Chadwick hadn't missed that last 3-ball, his would have changed and then borne out my meme.)

we're consistent.  consistently AWESOME:

   Is   Result
Carter 3.7 APG   3.866666667   O
Nickerson 15 MPG   13.64   U
T Walker 4.1 GS   O   O
Joseph 1.0 SPG   0.666666667   U
D Walker 78% FT%   0.44   U
Skara 49% 2FG%   0.586956522   O
Fernandez 2.0 BPG   3.2   O
Davidson 45% FG%   37%   U
Adekoya 4.9 RPG   4.1   O
Peters 16.9 PPG   19   O
Chadwick 35% 3FG%   33.33%   U
Team:  20 W      O
TB: Team PPG      73.4 (this is down a bit, 2 ppg...maybe it'll change some ties? SPOILER ALERT: no.)

It's not close:
1) Valpo4Life 11
2) EddieCabot 9
3) Kyle321n 8 (who has 73.4 DEAD ON btw...where are you man?)
4) valpotx 8
5) Dave_2010 8
6) FWalum 8
7) Valpo2010 8
8) covufan 7
9) talksalot 7
10) wh 7
11) bbtds 7
12) classof2014 6
13) historyman 6
14) ARCInsider 6
15) valpo84 5
16) a3uge 5
17) pgmado 5


(http://cdn.gifbay.com/2013/08/well_that_was_easy-77771.gif)
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: historyman on December 29, 2014, 10:53:44 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 29, 2014, 10:09:59 PMAdekoya 4.9 RPG   4.1   O

Recalculate---Jubril's is under. Unless you're using some kind of higher math I've never used before.
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: Kyle321n on December 30, 2014, 08:42:13 AM
Got the scoring right on you say? Crazy. When I looked at it before the JMU game I was off by a rounding error. I also thought that Chadwick's performance was going to make my prediction of 0% really off, but I'm still right with the under.
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 30, 2014, 10:01:48 AM
Heh heh...just throwing that in there to see who would notice how much his production has fallen off.

that .... changes things a bit...

1) valpo4life 10
2) covufan 8
3) Eddie Cabot 8
4) wh 8
5) kyle321n 7
6) valpotx 7
7) Dave_2010 7
8) FWalum 7
9) valpo2010 7
10) historyman 7
11) talksalot 6
12) valpo84 6
13) a3uge 6
14) bbtds 6
15) classof2014 5
16) ARCinsider 5
17) pgmado 4
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: covufan on December 31, 2014, 05:15:35 PM
I like this much better!
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: covufan on January 29, 2015, 12:07:10 PM
Quote from: covufan on November 10, 2014, 01:15:07 PMI'm guessing that team win 21 may come in the HL tournament or other postseason game. 

Update/Edit:

Win 21 will come in early February, most likely on 4 February. 
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: Kyle321n on January 29, 2015, 01:17:50 PM
Well if we drop 98 points on UIC I will still have the tie breaker dead on at the end of January. Right now Valpotx and Talksalot have the tie breaker pegged at 72.3
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on January 31, 2015, 08:42:01 PM
Couple of things have changed in the last month, and made everything topsy-turvy.

I've now "called" 3 categories.  The first of course was Tevonn starting more than 4 games; the latest two are Vashil's BPG, which will still be 2 even if he goes 0-for the rest of the season, and the team getting over 20 wins, because ... we're not going to lose out. 

Stats thus far are:
Carter 3.7 APG   3.823529412   O
Nickerson 15 MPG   17.2   O
T Walker 4.1 GS   O   O
Joseph 1.0 SPG   0.4   U
D Walker 78% FT%   59.6   U
Skara 49% 2FG%   58.2   O
Fernandez 2.0 BPG   O   O
Davidson 45% FG%   36%   U
Adekoya 4.9 RPG   4.3   U
Peters 16.9 PPG   17.8   O
Chadwick 35% 3FG%   33.33%   U
Team:  20 W   O   O
TB: Team PPG   72.3   

1) valpo4life 11
2) historyman 10
3) covufan 9
4) EddieCabot 9
5) wh 9
6) valpotx 8
7) Dave2010 8
8) FWAlum 8
9) valpo2010 8
10) bbtds 8
11) talksalot 7
12) valpo84 7
13) a3uge 7
14) classof2014 6
15) ARCinsider 6
16) pgmado 5
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: Pgmado on February 01, 2015, 01:40:40 PM
My account was hacked.
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: Kyle321n on February 03, 2015, 10:46:15 AM
Did I get disqualified for adding my awesome Bryce technicals question?
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on February 03, 2015, 11:00:05 AM
whoops.  erm.

you have 8. and are 8.

1) valpo4life 11
2) historyman 10
3) covufan 9
4) EddieCabot 9
5) wh 9
6) valpotx 8
7) Dave2010 8
8) Kyle321n 8
9) FWAlum 8
10) valpo2010 8
11) bbtds 8
12) talksalot 7
13) valpo84 7
14) a3uge 7
15) classof2014 6
16) ARCinsider 6
17) pgmado 5
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: Kyle321n on February 03, 2015, 11:08:23 AM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 03, 2015, 11:00:05 AM
whoops.  erm.

you have 8. and are 8.
8-)
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: bbtds on February 22, 2015, 04:02:00 AM
29 games in, 2/22/2015 update.



1)  Keith Carter:  3.7 apg     3.684     U

2)  EV Nickerson:  15 mpg    18.3      O

3)  Tevonn Walker:  4.1 gs    28        O

4)  Max Joseph:  1.0 spg       0.32       U

5)  Darien Walker:  78% FT%   60.6%   U

6)  David Skara:  49% 2FG%  56.1%  O

7)  Vashil Fernandez:  2.0 bpg  2.90    O

8)  Nick Davidson:  45% FG%   36.4%  U

10)  Jubril Adekoya:  4.9 rpg     4.3     U

11)  Alec Peters:  16.9 ppg       17.0    O

12)  David Chadwick:  35% 3FG% 30.0%  U

13)  Team:  20 wins                25       O

14)  Tie-breaker--team points per game, to 3 sig figs    71.5



covufan            10
EddieCabot        10
valpo4life          10
wh                   10

Dave_2010         9
FWalum             9
talksalot             9
Valpo 2010         9
valpotx              9

a3huge               8
historyman          8

ArcInsider           7
bbtds                  7
class of 2014        7
Kyle321n             7
pgmado               7

valpo84                6

justducky              3 (really 2 but threw in #9 to help)

please check the work carefully!!
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: justducky on February 22, 2015, 12:13:41 PM
Quote from: bbtds on February 22, 2015, 04:02:00 AMjustducky              3 (really 2 but threw in #9 to help)
Hey wait--- My goal here was to finish last and now you seem to think I got something right!  I demand a recount!!  :o
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: historyman on February 22, 2015, 12:26:36 PM
corrections, of course. BTW, thanks for helping me drop a lot of rungs..............I feel like I've been through a UWGB training camp.
You know, lots of running up and down hills............. :P


covufan  10  72.7  [+1.2]
EddieCabot  10  69.4  [-2.1]
valpo4life  10  69.4  [-2.1]
wh  10  68.4  [-3.1]

Dave_2010  9  71.9  [+.4]
FWalum  9  70.8  [-.7]
Valpo2010  9  70.1  [-1.4]
valpotx  9  72.3  [+.8]

a3huge  8  70.0  [-1.5]
historyman  8  68.4 [-3.1]
talksalot  8  72.3  [+.8]

ArcInsider  7  62.3  [-9.2]
bbtds  7  62.9  [-8.6]
classof2014  7  69.4  [-2.1]
Kyle321n  7  73.4  [+1.9]
pgmado  7  68.7  [-2.8]

valpo84  6  70.235  [-1.265]

justducky  2  no points guess


EDIT: I added in the points guesses so you can see where things could go.
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: bbtds on February 22, 2015, 01:56:48 PM
There are some very close categories. The two that really stand out are Carter's assists and Alec's ppg. There are three people hoping Alec is short of 17 points in at least one of the games. You know who you are. Since Valpo can win without Alec scoring 17 there is nothing wrong with hoping your prediction is correct.

There are 5 that want Keith to get 8 assists combined in the two remaining games. As for the majority wanting Keith to have less than 8 assists in 2 games.........well.........since Valpo can win without 8 assists from Keith there is nothing wrong with that, I really, really hope!

As far as average points for the season. More people are leaning for a lower score than 70 for the two games. Against Cleve St that is more probable. We scored 78 on Detroit at the ARC and 58 on CSU at the ARC.
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on February 28, 2015, 01:29:52 PM
REGULAR SEASON UPDATE
aka shakeup
(http://s2.postimg.org/vo4isi0s9/Screen_Shot_2015_02_28_at_2_28_35_PM.png)
1) FWAlum 10
2) a3uge 9
t3) valpo4life 9
t3) valpo2014 9
5) wh 9
6) covufan 9
7) valpo2010 8
8) dave2010 8
9) valpotx 8
10) valpo84 7
11) historyman 7
12) talksalot 7
13) classof2014 6
14) kyle321n 6
15) bbtds 6
16) ARCInsider 6
17) pgmado 5

obviously this would seem to calcify the further we get into the year, but a couple of these are on knife-edge.  the two categories that have shifted are denoted by the bold above--KC's APG and Alec's PPG, shifting from over to under.

Let's put aside our petty competitive differences at this point and root for both to be over ;)
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: historyman on February 28, 2015, 03:59:33 PM
Who was competitive? I could have almost got 7 by flipping a coin.

Congrats to FWalum! Very impressive!

I had a feeling that both Keith and Alec were going to fall just short of their over/under numbers. The last opponents didn't bode well for an outstanding finish by either of those players.
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on March 21, 2015, 09:02:37 AM
At the 3:35 mark of the 2nd half, you might remember, Vashil put home a layup to pull us within one.  (unfortunately, that would be the last basket I would see, for reasons I don't care to go into.)

But what that one play did was flip the whole season's O/U away from FWAlum to the new champ, "valpo4life", because the flush was off a KC assist, giving him 3.708 apg for the season.  His O/U was set at 3.7.  (I'm sure FWAlum was so happy at the time he doesn't even mind now.)

But that's how close things were! (clicking embiggens)
(http://s3.postimg.org/5a2ks8gab/Seed_Cast_Page_1.jpg)
I guess I'm running out of things to say, and for some reason the graphic is a lot of white space, so I guess just looking at this will do the talking for me:
(http://s2.postimg.org/ieii82jax/Screen_Shot_2015_03_21_at_9_51_39_AM.png)
Congrats, valpo4life, winner of the GOLD and to our own pgmado, winner of the... BROWN.
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: valpo4life on March 21, 2015, 10:13:19 AM
Hey hey at least I had something go my way over the past two days! This over/under contest could be ridiculously hard to pick next season...
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: wh on March 21, 2015, 10:26:40 AM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on March 21, 2015, 09:02:37 AM
At the 3:35 mark of the 2nd half, you might remember, Vashil put home a layup to pull us within one.  (unfortunately, that would be the last basket I would see, for reasons I don't care to go into.)

But what that one play did was flip the whole season's O/U away from FWAlum to the new champ, "valpo4life", because the flush was off a KC assist, giving him 3.708 apg for the season.  His O/U was set at 3.7.  (I'm sure FWAlum was so happy at the time he doesn't even mind now.)

But that's how close things were! (clicking embiggens)
(http://s3.postimg.org/5a2ks8gab/Seed_Cast_Page_1.jpg)
I guess I'm running out of things to say, and for some reason the graphic is a lot of white space, so I guess just looking at this will do the talking for me:
(http://s2.postimg.org/ieii82jax/Screen_Shot_2015_03_21_at_9_51_39_AM.png)
Congrats, valpo4life, winner of the GOLD and to our own pgmado, winner of the... BROWN.

I need to correct the record. I finished tied for 3rd, not 6th. The secondary tie breaker should be for tournament seeding only!  ;)
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: historyman on March 21, 2015, 12:58:22 PM
Quote from: valpo4life on March 21, 2015, 10:13:19 AMHey hey at least I had something go my way over the past two days! This over/under contest could be ridiculously hard to pick next season...

What do you mean "next season?"
Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: talksalot on March 22, 2015, 07:49:31 PM
Quote from: historyman on March 21, 2015, 12:58:22 PMWhat do you mean "next season?"
      

OK... here's the first category:   

Power 5 schools on the Schedule:    O/U is 1.7

and I'll give you .5 if we have to beat someone to GET to play a Power-5 in a tournament.




Title: Re: Over-Under, 2015
Post by: valpo4life on March 22, 2015, 09:32:20 PM
I would lean towards taking the over. If my memory is correct, we don't have many return games next year so that would allow for opportunities with an empty calendar to slot games into. Bryce will be able to try and schedule tougher because he knows what he has going into next season. The 2012-2013 team had games at Nebraska, New Mexico, Saint Louis, and Murray State. I realize only one of those is technically a Power 5 school, but the other 3 we're quite formidable that year. New Mexico was Top 20 when we went there. So heading into 2015-2016, with what we all may expect to be the best team we've had in years, I would expect 4 or 5 games against schools that are either Power 5 or in the top of their respected league, respected being the key word there. Can't expect much more than that.