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Started by valpo4life, March 24, 2017, 11:10:00 AM

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IndyValpo

We need to check out the Weathers brothers from Miami O.  Both had great Fr seasons (17 pits, 9 pats). 6-5 and 6-3.

M

Pits and pats are important stats....

I don't want Morgan. Plenty of guys out there that can do what he does who haven't given us the bird.

VU2014

#52
https://twitter.com/JKimElevate/status/847543890232180738

Year: 2016 (FR)
Position: SG
Height: 6-2
Weight: 191
Hometown: Shawnee Mission, KS
High School: North High School

SEASON   TEAM   MIN   FGM-FGA   FG%   3PM-3PA   3P%   FTM-FTA   FT%   REB   AST   BLK   STL   PF   TO   PTS
2016-17   M-OH   28.6   5.5-12.8   .431     0.6-2.7   .221     5.0-6.4   .777    4.2    4.8    1.4    1.9   3.4   4.8   16.7

Turnovers are a red-flag. Not a great 3pt shooter. Seems like there is a lot of potential but pretty inefficient as of right now.

2 steals and 1.4 blocks is really nice. A lot of potential. Seems like he could really benefit from a red-shirt year.

https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/michael-weathers

M

Seems we already have a young pg with a lot of potential.

crusadermoe

I'm getting dizzy on this merry-go-round.   Who's on first?........... or at least taking a big lead off the bag?   

Someone said Morgan verbally committed, but the next several posts sounded otherwise. But I might not have read it right.

VU2014

Quote from: crusadermoe on March 31, 2017, 09:50:38 AM
I'm getting dizzy on this merry-go-round.   Who's on first?........... or at least taking a big lead off the bag?   

Someone said Morgan verbally committed, but the next several posts sounded otherwise. But I might not have read it right.

Zion Morgan definitely committed to Valpo back in High School. But then backed out of his commitment because we signed Micah and he wanted big playing time.

Just my gut but I don't see Zion Morgan coming to Valpo.

https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/665272327119089664

valpo4life

Mark Alstork from Wright State has declared for the NBA draft but won't sign an agent

VU2014

Quote from: valpo4life on March 31, 2017, 10:00:22 AM
Mark Alstork from Wright State has declared for the NBA draft but won't sign an agent

Probably just going to do the same thing Alec did (even though Alec had more of a real chance of leaving for the NBA last year). He'll go through the workouts. Talk to NBA coaches. Get some feedback and he'll come back to WSU.

ValpoFan

I watch a fair share of MAC games. Michael Weathers is a stud. He was only a freshman on a terrible terrible team. It is not surprising that he has that many TOs.
He is not a great 3 point shooter but he can get to the basket at will.

justducky

Quote from: VU2014 on March 31, 2017, 09:56:45 AMJust my gut but I don't see Zion Morgan coming to Valpo.
I don't see us giving him a redshirt scholarship year. The risk-reward numbers do not pan out. Maybe if he went JC and then transferred in (immediate eligibility) it might then be mutually beneficial.

Quote from: ValpoFan on March 31, 2017, 10:15:46 AMI watch a fair share of MAC games. Michael Weathers is a stud. He was only a freshman on a terrible terrible team. It is not surprising that he has that many TOs.
He is not a great 3 point shooter but he can get to the basket at will.
This is another case of a redshirt scholarship year. We should try to limit these to one per season. So we target Fazekas (sp ???) and if we get him anybody else who would be subject to the transfer redshirt rule would need to be top of the line TOP SHELF or nothing.

VU2014

Quote from: ValpoFan on March 31, 2017, 10:15:46 AMI watch a fair share of MAC games. Michael Weathers is a stud. He was only a freshman on a terrible terrible team. It is not surprising that he has that many TOs.
He is not a great 3 point shooter but he can get to the basket at will.
This is another case of a redshirt scholarship year. We should try to limit these to one per season. So we target Fazekas (sp ???) and if we get him anybody else who would be subject to the transfer redshirt rule would need to be top of the line TOP SHELF or nothing.
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I think its ok to go after 1 RedShirt transfer every year but if we go for 2 when the situation and player is right. It looks like Joe and Bakari have the potential to be fantastic example of that (Middleton not so much).

I whole heartedly agree that we should only be going after impact transfers if they need to sit out a year.

IndyValpo

Quote from: ValpoFan on March 31, 2017, 10:15:46 AM
I watch a fair share of MAC games. Michael Weathers is a stud. He was only a freshman on a terrible terrible team. It is not surprising that he has that many TOs.
He is not a great 3 point shooter but he can get to the basket at will.
Completely agree I watched him almost single handily beat Akron, I think in Akron.

VU75

#62
Verbal Commits websites report Valpo has offered Shaquellie Calhoun a 6 4 SG  JC / transfer from  South Alabama. 

VU2014

#63
I'm not sure what to think of the Shaq Calhoun offer... 6'4" Juco guard who can immediately play. Nothing from his stats really "stands-out". He was the 6th leading score on his Juco team last year and all of his shooting %'s regressed last year. He shot .355 from beyond the arc his freshman season but great regressed .261% from 3pt line and took nearly 5 3s per game. Not good.

From the stats it looks like he had a pretty good Freshman year but a really not so good sophomore year. Injury maybe? Bad luck year? Bad situation? Idk.

His FG% was .322% last season in 32 games (22min per game) (that is really not too good... not a typo). He averaged 8.3 shots per game.

I looked at the youtube highlight vids and nothing particular stood out as stud skills. A lot of jump shots.

I've seen on twitter that he is considered a very physical and confidence guard. I'm assuming he must play some decent D too warrant an offer. Maybe they are trying to find the next Darien Walker? Super tough player, who didn't have any stand out skills but was clutch and fearless and just was a really solid player that could be relied upon.

I know the coaches have actually seen him play live and we haven't so I don't want to be too critical but I am not particularly excited by this offer. I would be more then happy to look like a fool 2 years from now by saying this. We shall see.

https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/shaqueille-calhoun
http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/shaq-calhoun-1.html

https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/847579996725981185
https://twitter.com/JoshuaParrott/status/847573407839289344
https://twitter.com/inusanewscom/status/820479580758634497
https://twitter.com/OntheRadarHoops/status/847596879776894976
https://twitter.com/shaqcalhounnn/status/848308417924141056

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNLMvCNeCEg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKcdhVWq5Q8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5MC8SQQ70M

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: VU75 on April 01, 2017, 04:39:24 PM
Verbal Commits websites report Valpo has offered Shaquellie Calhoun a 6 4 SG  JC / transfer from  South Alabama.

Not positive this is him, but maybe he's a graduate transfer? Article from this year says he's a Junior so maybe he graduates in 3-years?  No clue...

https://www.google.com/amp/www.al.com/articles/19976505/shaq_calhoun_leads_south_alaba.amp

VU2014

Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on April 01, 2017, 06:53:03 PM
Quote from: VU75 on April 01, 2017, 04:39:24 PM
Verbal Commits websites report Valpo has offered Shaquellie Calhoun a 6 4 SG  JC / transfer from  South Alabama.

Not positive this is him, but maybe he's a graduate transfer? Article from this year says he's a Junior so maybe he graduates in 3-years?  No clue...

https://www.google.com/amp/www.al.com/articles/19976505/shaq_calhoun_leads_south_alaba.amp

I believe its him. He retweeted the verbal commits tweet.

https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/848270608588615680
https://twitter.com/shaqcalhounnn/status/848308417924141056

VU75

Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on April 01, 2017, 06:53:03 PMNot positive this is him, but maybe he's a graduate transfer? Article from this year says he's a Junior so maybe he graduates in 3-years?  No clue..

Looks like he was injured and red shirted his soph year in Junior College.  So he graduated in 4 years and has one more year left.

oklahomamick

CRUSADERS!!!

justducky

I think this offer to Shaq Calhoun tells us quite a bit. Looks to me that we now know the 17-18 season could be a struggle as we integrate our promising newcomers and further develop Smits and Sorolla. I think 18-19 might be our next realistic target for prominence. So by recruiting Fazekas or some other red shirting transfer, the need for an additional experienced contributor is magnified. Looks like Calhoun is good enough to keep us in the hunt while Matt shapes our players and strategies for 18-19.

I hope nobody interprets this to mean we will be a bad team but with so few proven 3 point shooters I just can't see it being a great one.

valpo4life

Quote from: valpo4life on March 31, 2017, 10:00:22 AM
Mark Alstork from Wright State has declared for the NBA draft but won't sign an agent

Now being reported he will graduate, transfer, and be eligible immediately next year. Valpo and Oakland seem destined to stay at the top of this conference because all the others school's best players are choosing to leave, while players from other schools are choosing to come to us and Oakland.

talksalot

You don't suppose that Billy Donlon at UMich would be recruiting him... again?

VU2014

Quote from: talksalot on April 04, 2017, 12:27:38 PM
You don't suppose that Billy Donlon at UMich would be recruiting him... again?

Who said the guy couldn't ever recruit lol? But serious bummer for Wright State. Originally thought he was just going to be going the NBA draft combine.

I'd be willing to bet coaches broke rules and reached out to him in private trying to recruit him. It is so sleazy how so many coaches do that and recruit other teams players behind coaches backs. It's a dirty business of coaching.

https://twitter.com/EvanDaniels/status/849303537708408832

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: valpo4life on April 04, 2017, 12:03:29 PM
Quote from: valpo4life on March 31, 2017, 10:00:22 AM
Mark Alstork from Wright State has declared for the NBA draft but won't sign an agent

Now being reported he will graduate, transfer, and be eligible immediately next year. Valpo and Oakland seem destined to stay at the top of this conference because all the others school's best players are choosing to leave, while players from other schools are choosing to come to us and Oakland.

Is this a Horizon League problem or do other Mid majors in better conferences see exodus of teams top players (WSU and GB so far have lost too returners right?)

Is tgis happening in MVC as much or A10?

VU2014

Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on April 04, 2017, 01:25:33 PM
Quote from: valpo4life on April 04, 2017, 12:03:29 PM
Quote from: valpo4life on March 31, 2017, 10:00:22 AM
Mark Alstork from Wright State has declared for the NBA draft but won't sign an agent

Now being reported he will graduate, transfer, and be eligible immediately next year. Valpo and Oakland seem destined to stay at the top of this conference because all the others school's best players are choosing to leave, while players from other schools are choosing to come to us and Oakland.

This is a national problem. The amount of transfers is staggering. Last year was a record for transfer being over 700. We will very likely surpass that this offseason.

The "student" part of student-athlete is getting completely tossed to the side. Kids are just leaving left and right because they think they should get instant playing time.

The grad-transfer rule in the NCAA is greatly impacting mid-major programs more then the P6 conferences. Best mid players are getting poached.

Is this a Horizon League problem or do other Mid majors in better conferences see exodus of teams top players (WSU and GB so far have lost too returners right?)

Is tgis happening in MVC as much or A10?