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T Walker Declares for the Draft but does NOT sign with an Agent(EDIT: Returning)

Started by VU2014, April 13, 2017, 09:51:09 PM

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VU2014

Tevonn is declaring for the draft and will go through the beginning stages of the NBA draft workouts and talking with NBA coaches and scouts. I am not worried about losing him to the draft (yet, hopefully he gets a shot next season (definitely will play pro in the near future)). He has till May 24th to drop out of the process.

This could only help him getting feedback from coaches/scouts/Front Office guys. Hopefully he gets good advice and some great tips from those coaches. Shouldn't hurt at all and probably could only help him.

https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/852712787218399234
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yayphoenixyay

Its all fun and games until he decides to transfer halfway through the process. This rule benefits the players immensely, but is a total joke to the schools that recruit these kids out of hs. We're in the age of "personal brand building," even if that means hopping around from school to school, leaving early to the NBA even without a shot in hell of getting selected, all in the name of HOPEFULLY getting a pro opportunity someday, as opposed to staying at one school (maybe even transferring once if its for the right reasons) and playing well in a good situation. I may just be bitter about the Kerem situation, but seeing this happen around the league (now with Jaleel Hogan, too) is really starting to steer me towards losing interest in mid-major basketball if I know I can't even root for a kid to have a good year for the fear of him jumping ship to another school or the pros immediately.



VULB#62

All valid points yayphoenix.  You just have to hope that the kids you recruit have integrity and a sese of loyalty. Alec set the standard for VU.  Hope that Tevonn follows in those footsteps. I think he will.

VU2014

It would be pretty crushing to see Tevonn leave.

I also think it may be naive for us (myself included) to think that coaches on other teams staff won't be reaching out to Tevonn through back channels during this process. We also don't know what NBA coaches or who ever bumps into him in this process will tell him or try advising him to do. Not a forgone conclusion I guess.

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NativeCheesehead

Does anyone know if he's graduated? Or can this summer? I would think it unlikely for him to transfer if he has to sit a year then play a year.

wh

Quote from: yayphoenixyay on April 13, 2017, 11:10:55 PM
Its all fun and games until he decides to transfer halfway through the process. This rule benefits the players immensely, but is a total joke to the schools that recruit these kids out of hs. We're in the age of "personal brand building," even if that means hopping around from school to school, leaving early to the NBA even without a shot in hell of getting selected, all in the name of HOPEFULLY getting a pro opportunity someday, as opposed to staying at one school (maybe even transferring once if its for the right reasons) and playing well in a good situation. I may just be bitter about the Kerem situation, but seeing this happen around the league (now with Jaleel Hogan, too) is really starting to steer me towards losing interest in mid-major basketball if I know I can't even root for a kid to have a good year for the fear of him jumping ship to another school or the pros immediately.

You may be bitter, but your message is right on point.

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: yayphoenixyay on April 13, 2017, 11:10:55 PM
Its all fun and games until he decides to transfer halfway through the process. This rule benefits the players immensely, but is a total joke to the schools that recruit these kids out of hs. We're in the age of "personal brand building," even if that means hopping around from school to school, leaving early to the NBA even without a shot in hell of getting selected, all in the name of HOPEFULLY getting a pro opportunity someday, as opposed to staying at one school (maybe even transferring once if its for the right reasons) and playing well in a good situation. I may just be bitter about the Kerem situation, but seeing this happen around the league (now with Jaleel Hogan, too) is really starting to steer me towards losing interest in mid-major basketball if I know I can't even root for a kid to have a good year for the fear of him jumping ship to another school or the pros immediately.

Unfortunately the days of rooting for a kid for four years seem in jeopardy.   This is a big reason why many people don't watch professional sports because they can't really get tied to the success of the team with such high player turn over. If the college game isn't careful, it's going to alienate fans in a similar way .

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: VU2014 on April 13, 2017, 11:22:50 PM
It would be pretty crushing to see Tevonn leave.

I also think it may be naive for us (myself included) to think that coaches on other teams staff won't be reaching out to Tevonn through back channels during this process. We also don't know what NBA coaches or who ever bumps into him in this process will tell him or try advising him to do. Not a forgone conclusion I guess.

https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/852733196991053824
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/852733333045788673
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/852733442915684354
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/852733542240878593
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/852733633718763520
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/852739567534841860

Is Tevonn a graduate transfer candidate?  I hadn't thought so...

There is zero chance he leaves to another college if he's a traditional senior.

Dave_2010

Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on April 14, 2017, 06:03:34 AM

Is Tevonn a graduate transfer candidate?  I hadn't thought so...

There is zero chance he leaves to another college if he's a traditional senior.

Graduating college in 3 years is actually quite easy, especially when you have the support system these schools give athletes. Every scholarship basketball player I've ever known has been working on his masters by the fall of his 4th year of eligibility.

These guys are taking classes year round so they can take the minimum in season. Take 12 credits in 3 fall semesters, 3 spring semesters, and 4 summer semesters and you have the 120 required for a bachelors by the start of your senior fall.

EDIT: to clarify, I'm talking about people I know personally, not college athletes in general.


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FieldGoodie05

Quote from: Dave_2010 on April 14, 2017, 08:08:12 AM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on April 14, 2017, 06:03:34 AM

Is Tevonn a graduate transfer candidate?  I hadn't thought so...

There is zero chance he leaves to another college if he's a traditional senior.

Graduating college in 3 years is actually quite easy, especially when you have the support system these schools give athletes. Every scholarship basketball player I've ever known has been working on his masters by the fall of his 4th year of eligibility.

These guys are taking classes year round so they can take the minimum in season. Take 12 credits in 3 fall semesters, 3 spring semesters, and 4 summer semesters and you have the 120 required for a bachelors by the start of your senior fall.


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I understand that to be the case.  But my question was, is Tevonn a graduate transfer candidate (eligible)? 

Not "every" player does this, but you are 100% correct if you are saying every player SHOULD do this.

VUOR63

Question.

How do you guys think the pre-draft process helped or hurt Alec Peters' game and will the impact be similar of Tevonn?  Personally, I thought AP's post play improved dramatically his senior season and I would imagine this process might help Tevonn develop a better shooting stroke.  Obviously, it only benefits Valpo if he comes back but I hope this helps him further develop his craft.

Just Sayin

Does anyone seriously think he has a chance to be in the NBA?  :crazy:

VU2014

Quote from: Just Sayin on April 14, 2017, 10:47:00 AM
Does anyone seriously think he has a chance to be in the NBA?  :crazy:

I'm pretty sure he knows he won't be leaving for the NBA.

This is just about being able to go through workouts and getting feedback. There is no harm in this in my eyes.

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: VU2014 on April 14, 2017, 10:59:10 AM
Quote from: Just Sayin on April 14, 2017, 10:47:00 AM
Does anyone seriously think he has a chance to be in the NBA?  :crazy:

I'm pretty sure he knows he won't be leaving for the NBA.

This is just about being able to go through workouts and getting feedback. There is no harm in this in my eyes.

Tevonn has a future in Europe or Asian leagues.  And what an experience that will be, why not invest now in your future by having the worlds elite league critique and recommend.

No, he doesn't have the length to transition into the NBA and he'd need to develop a better FG% on volume.

Still smart move as long as he gets invites to try out/train.  I'm thinking there are plenty of players who declare and get 1 or no invites.


covufan

Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on April 14, 2017, 06:03:34 AMIs Tevonn a graduate transfer candidate?  I hadn't thought so...There is zero chance he leaves to another college if he's a traditional senior.

I don't think anyone knows at this point.  He might be a graduate transfer candidate at the end of the summer, but there has been no announcement. 

valpotx

No one has mentioned that he is on pace to graduate, so I doubt that is the case.  It usually comes out well before now, since we know that Smits is on pace to graduate after 3 years of school.  I am not worried about the graduate transfer with him. 

I am actually on the opposite side on his capability of getting to the NBA.  I DO think that he has a chance, if he has a solid Senior year.  The guy has a ton of athleticism, and has shown that ability to hit that long 2 on a very consistent basis.  I rarely saw him miss just inside the 3 point line this season.  He will need to work on being smarter with the ball, however.  He is in a better position than Ron Howard was coming out of college, and Ron sniffed several NBA camps.  Tevonn has the ability to make an NBA team, if he continues to develop this year.  A lot of NBA scouts saw him play this year due to their scouting of AP, so they know of him already.  He will get good feedback from this process and come back stronger/more focused.
"Don't mess with Texas"

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: valpotx on April 14, 2017, 12:23:04 PM
No one has mentioned that he is on pace to graduate, so I doubt that is the case.  It usually comes out well before now, since we know that Smits is on pace to graduate after 3 years of school.  I am not worried about the graduate transfer with him. 

I am actually on the opposite side on his capability of getting to the NBA.  I DO think that he has a chance, if he has a solid Senior year.  The guy has a ton of athleticism, and has shown that ability to hit that long 2 on a very consistent basis.  I rarely saw him miss just inside the 3 point line this season.  He will need to work on being smarter with the ball, however.  He is in a better position than Ron Howard was coming out of college, and Ron sniffed several NBA camps.  Tevonn has the ability to make an NBA team, if he continues to develop this year.  A lot of NBA scouts saw him play this year due to their scouting of AP, so they know of him already.  He will get good feedback from this process and come back stronger/more focused.

Ron HOWARD is 6'5" and long.  The NBA wants size, length and speed.  I've walked past Tevonn, he is my height around 6'1".

FieldGoodie05

Alec ended his Jr year with the best play of the season and his career.  Leading to a record setting senior campaign.

Tevonn ended being one of the best players on the court @ Illinois.  Hope the trend continues with a dominant senior campaign for TW.