Well stated. Sounds like HL schools are just jealous of the way Valpo has dominated since joining the league.
The bad and good of the HL replacing Valpo with IUPUI:
Bad = The HL will surely become a perennial 1-bid league that will be 15+ in the RPI and rarely, if ever, win a game in the NCAA tourney.
Good = The HL will be more balanced, with the remaining teams now having a chance to win the league and actually make an NCAA tourney appearance on occasion.
You guys really are a bunch of 6th graders. The league is soooooooo jealous of you. But lets not let the facts get in the way of making yourself feel so good about you.
THE BAD
Fact: Since 1998 the only team in the Horizon League to get an at Large Bid is Butler. UMMMM that's 20 years
Fact: Since Valpo joined the Horizon league the number of at large bids Valpo has received 0
Fact: The number of at large bids for Valpo all time 0
Fact: The average seed in NCAA tournament since Valpo joined the Horizon for any team not named Butler (14.1)
Fact In Valpo's 2 NCAA trips they were a 13 and a 14 seed
Fact Amount of games Valpo won in NCAA tournament while in Horizon league 0
The Good ( with the remaining teams now having a chance to win the league and actually make an NCAA tourney appearance on occasion. )
Fact. Valpo in it's 11 years in Horizon went to 2 NCAA's. That means you went to NCAA'S 18% of the time
Did I mention Valpo never won an NCAA game oh I did
So you say we are jealous and the league will rarely, if ever win an NCAA game because you left when You never won any?
Everyone else has a chance now that your taking your 18% winning rate to a new league. That makes sense.
Truth is, no one gives a care your leaving, yes, mad about the team replacing you because you were a very good program. But what did you really do to help the league. Your BEST team ever, a team that could have won NCAA games didn't even make it to the NCAA. You were a pretty date but in the end that's all you were.
And now a new coach, you lost a pro, and the team with out him scored 42 points in the tournament. I think your future is more in doubt then the status of the Horizon league.
It will be interesting to read this board 5 years from now. You might want to go over to the Oral Roberts board. Is that your future. They left a league they were winning and you remember how obnoxious they were back in the day. Might be you. Good luck.
And don't rip Oakland on this. This has nothing to do with Oakland. Our first 4 years in the Horizon we are 45-23 with a championship an a NIT win. Your first four years in the Horizon you were 50% with a CIT bid. And guess what, your leaving just made it easier on us.
The bad and good of the HL replacing Valpo with IUPUI:
Bad = The HL will surely become a perennial 1-bid league that will be 15+ in the RPI and rarely, if ever, win a game in the NCAA tourney.
Good = The HL will be more balanced, with the remaining teams now having a chance to win the league and actually make an NCAA tourney appearance on occasion.
You guys really are a bunch of 6th graders. The league is soooooooo jealous of you. But lets not let the facts get in the way of making yourself feel so good about you.
THE BAD
Fact: Since 1998 the only team in the Horizon League to get an at Large Bid is Butler. UMMMM that's 20 years
Fact: Since Valpo joined the Horizon league the number of at large bids Valpo has received 0
Fact: The number of at large bids for Valpo all time 0
Fact: The average seed in NCAA tournament since Valpo joined the Horizon for any team not named Butler (14.1)
Fact In Valpo's 2 NCAA trips they were a 13 and a 14 seed
Fact Amount of games Valpo won in NCAA tournament while in Horizon league 0
The Good ( with the remaining teams now having a chance to win the league and actually make an NCAA tourney appearance on occasion. )
Fact. Valpo in it's 11 years in Horizon went to 2 NCAA's. That means you went to NCAA'S 18% of the time
Did I mention Valpo never won an NCAA game oh I did
So you say we are jealous and the league will rarely, if ever win an NCAA game because you left when You never won any?
Everyone else has a chance now that your taking your 18% winning rate to a new league. That makes sense.
Truth is, no one gives a care your leaving, yes, mad about the team replacing you because you were a very good program. But what did you really do to help the league. Your BEST team ever, a team that could have won NCAA games didn't even make it to the NCAA. You were a pretty date but in the end that's all you were.
And now a new coach, you lost a pro, and the team with out him scored 42 points in the tournament. I think your future is more in doubt then the status of the Horizon league.
It will be interesting to read this board 5 years from now. You might want to go over to the Oral Roberts board. Is that your future. They left a league they were winning and you remember how obnoxious they were back in the day. Might be you. Good luck.
And don't rip Oakland on this. This has nothing to do with Oakland. Our first 4 years in the Horizon we are 45-23 with a championship an a NIT win. Your first four years in the Horizon you were 50% with a CIT bid. And guess what, your leaving just made it easier on us.