Counting down Valpo's top 10 players in the 2010's

bbtds · May 21, 2020, 09:56:39 PM

https://www.nwitimes.com/sports/counting-down-valparaiso-universitys-top-10-players-in-the-2010s-numbers-6-10/article_28c43af7-86c1-531d-9197-66f3c06f27ae.html

10. Shane Hammink

9. LaVonte Dority

8. Matt Kenney

7. Tevonn Walker

6. Keith Carter

5, 4, 3, 2 & 1 to follow. Thoughts?

M · May 21, 2020, 10:16:10 PM

Peters, Broekhoff, Carter, Vashil, KVW

VUGrad1314 · May 21, 2020, 11:15:58 PM

Am super interested to see the Honorable Mention\ just missed list to see who didn't make the cut. That we have such a strong list and have players we can debate as to whether they should have been on it or not is a testament to how strong our program has been. I hope the 2020s are as productive for us as the 2010s were. At the start of the decade we were just beginning to find our way in a new conference before becoming a constant contender... Sound familiar? May history repeat itself. Go Valpo! I BELIEVE!

VUGrad1314 · May 21, 2020, 11:22:26 PM

Quote from: M on May 21, 2020, 10:16:10 PMPeters, Broekhoff, Carter, Vashil, KVW

Carter's already there at 6. Four of those 5 have to be there. Peters and Broekhoff are locks. Vashil and KVW should absolutely be there. Who's the other one? Buggs? Johnson? Wood? This calls to mind how kind the transfer market has been to us as well. We've generally had pretty good luck. Hopefully Goodnews Kpegeol (I hope I'm spelling that right I promise I'll get it down quickly.) is no exception.

EddieCabot · May 22, 2020, 10:01:08 AM

Quote from: VUGrad1314 on May 21, 2020, 11:22:26 PM
Quote from: M on May 21, 2020, 10:16:10 PMPeters, Broekhoff, Carter, Vashil, KVW

Carter's already there at 6. Four of those 5 have to be there. Peters and Broekhoff are locks. Vashil and KVW should absolutely be there. Who's the other one? Buggs? Johnson? Wood? This calls to mind how kind the transfer market has been to us as well. We've generally had pretty good luck. Hopefully Goodnews Kpegeol (I hope I'm spelling that right I promise I'll get it down quickly.) is no exception.

Paul will definitely have Wood in there.

vu72 · May 22, 2020, 10:31:18 AM

Quote from: EddieCabot on May 22, 2020, 10:01:08 AMPaul will definitely have Wood in there.

As well he should. I'd also take Cory Johnson over KVW. He averaged 15.6 and 5.8 his senior year. Second only to Mr. Wood.

Pgmado · May 22, 2020, 11:27:22 AM

Brandon Wood and Cory Johnson not on the list. Only played one year in the decade. I was aiming for players with at least 50 games. Maybe a mistake on my part.

EddieCabot · May 22, 2020, 11:36:56 AM

Quote from: vu72 on May 22, 2020, 10:31:18 AM
Quote from: EddieCabot on May 22, 2020, 10:01:08 AMPaul will definitely have Wood in there.

As well he should. I'd also take Cory Johnson over KVW. He averaged 15.6 and 5.8 his senior year. Second only to Mr. Wood.

Agree. I took a detailed look back and ranking players is really difficult because so many were only with the team for 2 or 3 years. For example, I would rank Kenney and T Walker ahead of Dority because they were both very solid for 4 years.

I'll also be interested to see if Paul includes JFL. His two seasons were better than the two seasons that Hamminck, Dority and Carter provided.

vu84v2 · May 22, 2020, 11:38:32 AM

In order (5 through 1): KVW, Vashil, JFL, Broekhoff, Peters

VUGrad1314 · May 22, 2020, 08:39:11 PM

That's a good and very fair list. Paul if you could make an honorable mention list (with or without your minimums in place) who would be on it? Just curious.

EddieCabot · May 23, 2020, 09:56:24 AM

Quote from: VUGrad1314 on May 22, 2020, 08:39:11 PM
That's a good and very fair list. Paul if you could make an honorable mention list (with or without your minimums in place) who would be on it? Just curious.

Good list. The only argument I would make is that Carter does not belong ahead of Tevonn. Tevonn scored 1,400+ career points (only 200 less than Ryan) and was a great defender (#8 in career steals). I think he easily belongs in the top five.

Honorable mention list would be long with so many great players in the decade. I think Buggs, Bogan, Capobianco, Adekoya, D Walker, Nickerson and Fazekas would be on the list.

EddieCabot · May 23, 2020, 05:38:25 PM

Quote from: EddieCabot on May 23, 2020, 09:56:24 AM
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on May 22, 2020, 08:39:11 PM
That's a good and very fair list. Paul if you could make an honorable mention list (with or without your minimums in place) who would be on it? Just curious.

Good list. The only argument I would make is that Carter does not belong ahead of Tevonn. Tevonn scored 1,400+ career points (only 200 less than Ryan) and was a great defender (#8 in career steals). I think he easily belongs in the top five.

Honorable mention list would be long with so many great players in the decade. I think Buggs, Bogan, Capobianco, Adekoya, D Walker, Nickerson and Fazekas would be on the list.

Paul and Todd discuss on today's USH podcast. It appears that Todd disagrees with me, stating that Carter probably belongs in the top 5. He's seen more games and talked to the coaches way more than me, so I'll defer.

Todd also stated that the 2017 team, if not for the Adekoya situation and the Peters injury, clearly would have won a game in the NCAA tournament ... no doubt.

VUGrad1314 · May 23, 2020, 06:53:11 PM

15-16 would have too... So many missed opportunities... I hope we can cash in once we make it again whenever that is...