I figured this deserved its own thread.
Australia blew out France. Ryan did not start, but played big minutes due to Ingles being in foul trouble. Broekhoff looked good, though it would have been nice to see him hit a few more shots. 7 points and I would guess 3 or 4 rebounds, 1 or 2 steals and some good defense on the French guy that Charlotte just signed as a free agent.
France was awful. Words cannot describe how bad their defense was. Middle school teams defend screens and players cutting to the basket better than France did.
Does anyone know when their next game is?
Quote from: wh on August 06, 2016, 03:37:16 PM
Does anyone know when their next game is?
Australia vs Serbia
Monday, August 8, 1:15 p.m. eastern / 12:15 p.m. central
The Aussie's men's basketball team looks pretty talented this year! Rowdy nailed a 3! I'll be watching and rooting all the way (until they play USA lol, but I'd still hope Ryan plays well)
Big win for Australia today. 95-80 over a good Serbia team. Game was close throughout, but Australia had a big 4th quarter. Not a huge game for Ryan - 4 points in about 12 minutes. He looks good and comfortable out there (and is always hustling). It would be great to see him hit a few threes to get on track.
My guess is that Australia will give the US a game on Wednesday. They have the depth, talent and experience to play with the US for long stretches. They may lose by 20, but it should be competitive. For those of you that check this game out and have not seen Australia yet, Ryan is playing backup at the 3 (and a little at the 2). He plays behind Ingles who plays for the Utah Jazz. Bogut, Baines, Ingles, Mills and Dellavedova are all NBA players and make a pretty good starting five. They get strong bench play from Ryan, Andersen and Lisch (who is the son of the former Notre Dame and Bears QB).
Australia may last a half vs US, but the US team isn't winning a game by less then 25 points vs Australia.
The US will win decisively, but the Aussies play decent basketball. It should fun to watch today.
In reality, the Olympic sport I am really enjoying that was not on my mental radar was beach volleyball.
Ryan is playing well in the 1st Quarter. Has two free throws on a D. Jordan technical! Playing Great Defense as well!
Aussie's up 5 at the half! Ryan only played three or four minutes in the 2nd quarter but he has faced KD one and one at least twice and stopped him both times. I'm sure the U.S. will get it together as they aren't really playing team ball, but I'd rather watch a close game!
Lots closer then I'd thought it would be. Too bad they don't run more sets for Ryan.
Wow! A 10 point win for the Americans over the Boomers was not in any way what I was expecting. Great challenge by Ryan Broekhoff and his Aussie teammates.
Quote from: M on August 08, 2016, 08:34:02 PM
So much fro your basketball prediction ability. Rowdy played limited minutes but was on the floor for most of the final quarter. Played very steady and made a couple of very nice assists and rebounds. He is playing behind Joe Ingels of the Utah Jazz. This is a very talented gritty Aussie team. Wouldn't be surprised to see them again in the Gold Medal game.
And you don't know how to use the quote function so we are even!
Dirty? Melo was the one delivering low blows while Cousins threw his weight around every chance he had. I was pulling for Australia and hope to see the US lose at some point in these games.
Quote from: M on August 10, 2016, 10:08:37 PM
And you don't know how to use the quote function so we are even!
Dirty? Melo was the one delivering low blows while Cousins threw his weight around every chance he had. I was pulling for Australia and hope to see the US lose at some point in these games.
Yet you are the one who thought it would be a blow out in the second half. Rowdy was on the floor most of the final quarter and delivered a couple of great assists. His future is very bright!
Quote from: koala on August 10, 2016, 09:49:53 PM
Ola from Rio, glad to see some of you supporting Ryan at his first Olympics. The game was amazing and so was the atmosphere. Couldn't be more prouder of Ryan and the team. Glad we gave the US a run for their money but a bit disappointed to hear them saying we are dirty, that's coming from some over paid, arrogant, sooks that expected to wipe the floor with us and have us lie down well that's not the Aussie way. Ryan's shot will fall what I am excited about is the way he is playing D and all the other little things that he does so well. This is his first Olympics and he has not looked out of place on the world stage. Hope we get another crack at the US, the result may be different next time, we shall wait and see? Go Rowdy, Go Boomers :thumbsup:
Nbc feed in the us didn't show any us player or commentator remarks that boomers were playing dirty. Us players only grave props that boomers played hard and physical and that us needed that type of game. I thought Rowdie definitely played well and belonged on that level. Wish he had hit a couple of 3s to solidify that he can play at that level. Wanted to slap nbc announcer who mispronounced both Rowdie's name and VALPARiSO. What a dork!
And very quickly admitted to being in the wrong, what else would you like?
NBC's coverage of the Olympics sucks big time. I like Oto Bolden for track and field, but the others are terrible. Al Trautwig needs punishment.
NBC = nothing but commercials
I've really enjoyed this Rio app. Some of the events don't have announcers at all, for example the beach volleyball match I caught late last night.
After watching the Serbia and France games I've been focused on the Group B standings, as Australia should finish 2nd in the group. Nigeria doesn't seem to be much of a threat of making it through. Brazil-Croatia will be a big one for who could be 3rd in the group, and that's who the Boomers will be facing in the first round of the knockout stage. Both of those teams have wins coming up against Nigeria and a game against Lithuania. Lithuania also has a chance for falling into third, if they lose to both Brazil and Croatia. Group B has a much more compelling battle for positioning.
Quote from: koala on August 10, 2016, 09:49:53 PM
Ola from Rio, glad to see some of you supporting Ryan at his first Olympics. The game was amazing and so was the atmosphere. Couldn't be more prouder of Ryan and the team. Glad we gave the US a run for their money but a bit disappointed to hear them saying we are dirty, that's coming from some over paid, arrogant, sooks that expected to wipe the floor with us and have us lie down well that's not the Aussie way. Ryan's shot will fall what I am excited about is the way he is playing D and all the other little things that he does so well. This is his first Olympics and he has not looked out of place on the world stage. Hope we get another crack at the US, the result may be different next time, we shall wait and see? Go Rowdy, Go Boomers :thumbsup:
Great to hear from you! Wish Rowdy and the Boomers good luck the rest of the way!
Quote from: usc4valpo on August 11, 2016, 07:29:52 AMNBC's coverage of the Olympics sucks big time. I like Oto Bolden for track and field, but the others are terrible. Al Trautwig needs punishment. NBC = nothing but commercials
This is why you live 2 hrs from Montreal and listen to Canadian Coverage haha....I actually learned some things...but they obviously don't show a whole lot of American athletes, but for swimming which is the sport I coach, I liked the maple coverage better...BBC also does a decent job
It would be awesome to have Don Cherry do some Olympic commentary on Rugby!!
With Delly and Broekhoff, and my dislike of Carmelo Anthony, I found myself cheering pretty adamantly for Australia. Broekhoff hasn't been shooting well the past two games, but played good defense and rebounded well. He looks much better than Bairstow (not surprisingly) and was more worthwhile than Inglis last game (whom played some abysmal defense).
Also, mispronouncing player names on this scale is abysmal and shameful. I expect that out of Indiana State announcers, not guys that cover the NBA and the Olympics.
Was Koala's post deleted - I can't find it?
no, no suprise, we are talking about NBC coverage, which caters to the most common denominator of intelligence. Their coverage has been pathetic. Ryan Seacrest ding sports - I guess now we will see Taylor Hicks announcing the Kayak race.
Easy win for Australia over China. Australia subbed liberally and sat Bogut. Ryan had 12 points and hit a few threes. While most of his points were after Australia was up 20, it is good to see him get somewhat on track with his shot. Regardless, the effort and hustle is always there.
I would echo the comment that someone previously made on this thread. On the last play of the first half (with Australia up 5), the US ran a play to isolate Durant on Ryan. Ryan's defense was outstanding and he forced Durant into a bad shot that he missed badly. As a Valpo fan....that was really cool!
For those of you who have not seen Australia yet, their style of play is like a great college team with great guards. Their ratios of Assists to Field Goals and Assists to Turnovers are incredible, and this is because their ball movement and movement off the ball is amazing. If the NBA played this style, I would actually watch.
Maybe someone should let those guys at St Mary's know that they don't have the whole Aussie team as former players. Broekhoff graduated too.
https://twitter.com/saintmaryshoops
US then only beat Serbia by 3. Can't help but think that Serbia got some strength from watching the Boomers go at Team USA.
Quote from: nkvu on August 10, 2016, 10:28:00 PM
Quote from: koala on August 10, 2016, 09:49:53 PM
Ola from Rio, glad to see some of you supporting Ryan at his first Olympics. The game was amazing and so was the atmosphere. Couldn't be more prouder of Ryan and the team. Glad we gave the US a run for their money but a bit disappointed to hear them saying we are dirty, that's coming from some over paid, arrogant, sooks that expected to wipe the floor with us and have us lie down well that's not the Aussie way. Ryan's shot will fall what I am excited about is the way he is playing D and all the other little things that he does so well. This is his first Olympics and he has not looked out of place on the world stage. Hope we get another crack at the US, the result may be different next time, we shall wait and see? Go Rowdy, Go Boomers :thumbsup:
Nbc feed in the us didn't show any us player or commentator remarks that boomers were playing dirty. Us players only grave props that boomers played hard and physical and that us needed that type of game. I thought Rowdie definitely played well and belonged on that level. Wish he had hit a couple of 3s to solidify that he can play at that level. Wanted to slap nbc announcer who mispronounced both Rowdie's name and VALPARiSO. What a dork!
Koala stated accurately that there were comments made that Australia was a dirty team:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/olympics-2016/team-america-coach-says-boomers-can-win-gold-as-aussies-fend-off-dirty-play-accusations/news-story/82b659c0c13cf1638a98b068ffb162dd
Does this actually surprise anyone that we would have some number of complainers and excuse makers on our entitled NBA all-star roster? This is not your dad's Dream Team - on or off the court.
Of course, this doesn't hold a candle to Hope Solo calling the Swedish women's soccer team "a bunch of cowards" because she was offended by the game plan they used in defeating her entitled team. Unbelievable.
By the way, our ultimate act of national embarrassment is yet to come, when the women's basketball team pulls some self-aggrandizing "black lives matter" stunt on the medal stand.
Quote from: wh on August 13, 2016, 11:42:00 AMBy the way, our ultimate act of national embarrassment is yet to come, when the women's basketball team pulls some self-aggrandizing "black lives matter" stunt on the medal stand.
Where did you read/see this was going to happen?
Quote from: bbtds on August 13, 2016, 06:18:52 PM
Quote from: wh on August 13, 2016, 11:42:00 AMBy the way, our ultimate act of national embarrassment is yet to come, when the women's basketball team pulls some self-aggrandizing "black lives matter" stunt on the medal stand.
Where did you read/see this was going to happen?
http://www.takepart.com/article/2016/08/05/brazil-black-lives-matter-prepares-olympics-protest-platform
Any other questions?
Well you tricked me into reading it. It doesn't say anything is going to happen for sure and the only mention of the women's players is a few teams wearing shirts during pre game during the wnba season?!
Back on topic: I'm pretty excited for the elimination rounds! Seems the US/Australia side is pretty stacked.
Quote from: M on August 13, 2016, 08:07:43 PM
Well you tricked me into reading it. It doesn't say anything is going to happen for sure and the only mention of the women's players is a few teams wearing shirts during pre game during the wnba season?!
Back on topic: I'm pretty excited for the elimination rounds! Seems the US/Australia side is pretty stacked.
Not trying to trick anyone. It's the easiest conclusion I've ever drawn. I'd love hear from someone brave enough to predict they won't.
Quote from: wh on August 13, 2016, 08:38:01 PM
Not trying to trick anyone. It's the easiest conclusion I've ever drawn. I'd love hear from someone brave enough to predict they won't.
As you've phrased it, the prediction would require two guesses: whether they would make a public expression and whether it would be an embarrassment. The latter is very subjective, of course. There were plenty of people who didn't find the Nazi salute embarrassing in the 1936 Olympics so I'm sure there will be a divergence of opinion on whether this would be a disgrace or not. Brazil certainly has its own problems with systemic racism, so maybe it'll be embarrassing to them.
Quote from: Valpower on August 13, 2016, 09:18:10 PM
Quote from: wh on August 13, 2016, 08:38:01 PM
Not trying to trick anyone. It's the easiest conclusion I've ever drawn. I'd love hear from someone brave enough to predict they won't.
As you've phrased it, the prediction would require two guesses: whether they would make a public expression and whether it would be an embarrassment. The latter is very subjective, of course. There were plenty of people who didn't find the Nazi salute embarrassing in the 1936 Olympics so I'm sure there will be a divergence of opinion on whether this would be a disgrace or not. Brazil certainly has its own problems with systemic racism, so maybe it'll be embarrassing to them.
The Olympic Games are marketed as the one moment in time when nations of the world come together in peace and harmony, rising above differences and divisions, trials and tribulations. This is neither the time nor place for a special interest group from the United States of America to air its dirty laundry. I know black lives matter activists will find this hard to believe, but there are entire populations of people across the globe that would trade places with them in a heartbeat. I've traveled extensively in South America over the years. Trust me, you haven't seen poverty until you have seen the slums of Caracas, or Bogota, or Guayaquil. Who's going to stand up on a medal stand for them? Who's going to stand up for the victims of Christian genocide in the Middle East, or for the people of Israel who sleep next to gas masks every night, or for women and gays who live a lifetime of persecution under a Satanic geo-political system called Sharia? Or for Africans suffering from starvation and an AIDS epidemic? Or for S. Koreans who live in constant fear that the the leader to their north is going to nuke them? Did I mention the people living in ISIS controlled territory that are raped, sold into slavery, shot in the head, drowned in cages, decapitated and crucified? Who's going to wear a Syrian and Iraqi Lives Matter T-shirt for them?
Quote from: wh on August 13, 2016, 11:28:06 PMQuote from: Valpower on August 13, 2016, 09:18:10 PMQuote from: wh on August 13, 2016, 08:38:01 PMNot trying to trick anyone. It's the easiest conclusion I've ever drawn. I'd love hear from someone brave enough to predict they won't.
As you've phrased it, the prediction would require two guesses: whether they would make a public expression and whether it would be an embarrassment. The latter is very subjective, of course. There were plenty of people who didn't find the Nazi salute embarrassing in the 1936 Olympics so I'm sure there will be a divergence of opinion on whether this would be a disgrace or not. Brazil certainly has its own problems with systemic racism, so maybe it'll be embarrassing to them.
The Olympic Games are marketed as the one moment in time when nations of the world come together in peace and harmony, rising above differences and divisions, trials and tribulations. This is neither the time nor place for a special interest group from the United States of America to air its dirty laundry. I know black lives matter activists will find this hard to believe, but there are entire populations of people across the globe that would trade places with them in a heartbeat. I've traveled extensively in South America over the years. Trust me, you haven't seen poverty until you have seen the slums of Caracas, or Bogota, or Guayaquil. Who's going to stand up on a medal stand for them? Who's going to stand up for the victims of Christian genocide in the Middle East, or for the people of Israel who sleep next to gas masks every night, or for women and gays who live a lifetime of persecution under a Satanic geo-political system called Sharia? Or for Africans suffering from starvation and an AIDS epidemic? Or for S. Koreans who live in constant fear that the the leader to their north is going to nuke them? Did I mention the people living in ISIS controlled territory that are raped, sold into slavery, shot in the head, drowned in cages, decapitated and crucified? Who's going to wear a Syrian and Iraqi Lives Matter T-shirt for them?
well said.
Quote from: wh on August 13, 2016, 11:28:06 PM
Quote from: Valpower on August 13, 2016, 09:18:10 PM
Quote from: wh on August 13, 2016, 08:38:01 PM
Not trying to trick anyone. It's the easiest conclusion I've ever drawn. I'd love hear from someone brave enough to predict they won't.
As you've phrased it, the prediction would require two guesses: whether they would make a public expression and whether it would be an embarrassment. The latter is very subjective, of course. There were plenty of people who didn't find the Nazi salute embarrassing in the 1936 Olympics so I'm sure there will be a divergence of opinion on whether this would be a disgrace or not. Brazil certainly has its own problems with systemic racism, so maybe it'll be embarrassing to them.
The Olympic Games are marketed as the one moment in time when nations of the world come together in peace and harmony, rising above differences and divisions, trials and tribulations. This is neither the time nor place for a special interest group from the United States of America to air its dirty laundry. I know black lives matter activists will find this hard to believe, but there are entire populations of people across the globe that would trade places with them in a heartbeat. I've traveled extensively in South America over the years. Trust me, you haven't seen poverty until you have seen the slums of Caracas, or Bogota, or Guayaquil. Who's going to stand up on a medal stand for them? Who's going to stand up for the victims of Christian genocide in the Middle East, or for the people of Israel who sleep next to gas masks every night, or for women and gays who live a lifetime of persecution under a Satanic geo-political system called Sharia? Or for Africans suffering from starvation and an AIDS epidemic? Or for S. Koreans who live in constant fear that the the leader to their north is going to nuke them? Did I mention the people living in ISIS controlled territory that are raped, sold into slavery, shot in the head, drowned in cages, decapitated and crucified? Who's going to wear a Syrian and Iraqi Lives Matter T-shirt for them?
Wh, if you're responding to me, you've gone on quite a tangent. My statement was simple; not everyone would be embarrassed. Now, if you don't mind, the Valparaiso Fan Zone is marketed as a place where fans of Valpo come together in peace and harmony and this is not place for someone to vent about their distaste for a BLM protest, and given that it hasn't even happened, it's certainly not the time. Thanks.
Especially in a Ryan Broekhoff thread...it's like Rick is back around here, with how many threads are getting derailed these days...
Quote from: Valpower on August 14, 2016, 10:40:03 AM
Quote from: wh on August 13, 2016, 11:28:06 PM
Quote from: Valpower on August 13, 2016, 09:18:10 PM
Quote from: wh on August 13, 2016, 08:38:01 PM
Not trying to trick anyone. It's the easiest conclusion I've ever drawn. I'd love hear from someone brave enough to predict they won't.
As you've phrased it, the prediction would require two guesses: whether they would make a public expression and whether it would be an embarrassment. The latter is very subjective, of course. There were plenty of people who didn't find the Nazi salute embarrassing in the 1936 Olympics so I'm sure there will be a divergence of opinion on whether this would be a disgrace or not. Brazil certainly has its own problems with systemic racism, so maybe it'll be embarrassing to them.
The Olympic Games are marketed as the one moment in time when nations of the world come together in peace and harmony, rising above differences and divisions, trials and tribulations. This is neither the time nor place for a special interest group from the United States of America to air its dirty laundry. I know black lives matter activists will find this hard to believe, but there are entire populations of people across the globe that would trade places with them in a heartbeat. I've traveled extensively in South America over the years. Trust me, you haven't seen poverty until you have seen the slums of Caracas, or Bogota, or Guayaquil. Who's going to stand up on a medal stand for them? Who's going to stand up for the victims of Christian genocide in the Middle East, or for the people of Israel who sleep next to gas masks every night, or for women and gays who live a lifetime of persecution under a Satanic geo-political system called Sharia? Or for Africans suffering from starvation and an AIDS epidemic? Or for S. Koreans who live in constant fear that the the leader to their north is going to nuke them? Did I mention the people living in ISIS controlled territory that are raped, sold into slavery, shot in the head, drowned in cages, decapitated and crucified? Who's going to wear a Syrian and Iraqi Lives Matter T-shirt for them?
Wh, if you're responding to me, you've gone on quite a tangent. My statement was simple; not everyone would be embarrassed. Now, if you don't mind, the Valparaiso Fan Zone is marketed as a place where fans of Valpo come together in peace and harmony and this is not place for someone to vent about their distaste for a BLM protest, and given that it hasn't even happened, it's certainly not the time. Thanks.
You know what makes me uncomfortable - condescending, dismissive micro lectures, like the one you just gave me. "If you don't mind", I'll decide for myself what is appropriate for me to post, when I want to post it, and how I want to phrase it.
Now, everything I said about impending black lives matter activism at the Olympics is germane to the discussion at hand about spoiled, entitled American athletes acting out inappropriately, starting with the men's basketball team and including the women's soccer team. It's nothing more than the types of discussions Mike and Mike and other sports analysts have every day of the week.
Lastly, let's see if you're as good at receiving snarky advice as you are giving it. If my opinions make you uncomfortable, take a deep breath and try to do your best to deal with it short of another 2-year, self-imposed exile from the board. It's not that big of a deal.
Sitting back wondering how this will turn into a discussion about facilities.
Quote from: wh on August 14, 2016, 11:50:46 AM
Quote from: Valpower on August 14, 2016, 10:40:03 AM
Quote from: wh on August 13, 2016, 11:28:06 PM
Quote from: Valpower on August 13, 2016, 09:18:10 PM
Quote from: wh on August 13, 2016, 08:38:01 PM
Not trying to trick anyone. It's the easiest conclusion I've ever drawn. I'd love hear from someone brave enough to predict they won't.
As you've phrased it, the prediction would require two guesses: whether they would make a public expression and whether it would be an embarrassment. The latter is very subjective, of course. There were plenty of people who didn't find the Nazi salute embarrassing in the 1936 Olympics so I'm sure there will be a divergence of opinion on whether this would be a disgrace or not. Brazil certainly has its own problems with systemic racism, so maybe it'll be embarrassing to them.
The Olympic Games are marketed as the one moment in time when nations of the world come together in peace and harmony, rising above differences and divisions, trials and tribulations. This is neither the time nor place for a special interest group from the United States of America to air its dirty laundry. I know black lives matter activists will find this hard to believe, but there are entire populations of people across the globe that would trade places with them in a heartbeat. I've traveled extensively in South America over the years. Trust me, you haven't seen poverty until you have seen the slums of Caracas, or Bogota, or Guayaquil. Who's going to stand up on a medal stand for them? Who's going to stand up for the victims of Christian genocide in the Middle East, or for the people of Israel who sleep next to gas masks every night, or for women and gays who live a lifetime of persecution under a Satanic geo-political system called Sharia? Or for Africans suffering from starvation and an AIDS epidemic? Or for S. Koreans who live in constant fear that the the leader to their north is going to nuke them? Did I mention the people living in ISIS controlled territory that are raped, sold into slavery, shot in the head, drowned in cages, decapitated and crucified? Who's going to wear a Syrian and Iraqi Lives Matter T-shirt for them?
Wh, if you're responding to me, you've gone on quite a tangent. My statement was simple; not everyone would be embarrassed. Now, if you don't mind, the Valparaiso Fan Zone is marketed as a place where fans of Valpo come together in peace and harmony and this is not place for someone to vent about their distaste for a BLM protest, and given that it hasn't even happened, it's certainly not the time. Thanks.
Now, everything I said about impending black lives matter activism at the Olympics is germane to the discussion at hand about spoiled, entitled American athletes acting out inappropriately, starting with the men's basketball team and including the women's soccer team. It's nothing more than the types of discussions Mike and Mike and other sports analysts have every day of the week.
I mostly agree with you on what you've been saying. However, I don't understand why the topic has to be constantly steered into a politically charged realm that is only tangentially related to the subject at hand. When I enter a thread titled "Ryan Broekhoff and Australian Olympic Basketball," I don't want to see a bunch of posts about Black Lives Matter. What I want to see is posts about Ryan Broekhoff and Australian Olympic Basketball. And I think most users here would agree with me. This isn't a radio show that flows from one topic to the next, it's a message board divided up into a variety of categories so that users can easily view and organize the topics they wish to participate in. If you want to talk about what the women's basketball team will do on the podium, or political messages in sports, or the entitlement culture in professional American athletes, go make a new thread about it so the topic can be more deeply explored in the correct space.
Back on topic, Broekhoff and the Boomers play Venezuela tonight at 5:00pm Central, 6:00pm Eastern. Here is the link to the live stream if anyone is interested: http://stream.nbcolympics.com/mens-basketball-prelims-game-26 (http://stream.nbcolympics.com/mens-basketball-prelims-game-26)
Edit: Typo.
Last I checked Ryan is neither an entitled or arrogant NBA sook (whats a sook and how many sooks does it take to change a light bulb?). His ties to BLM also seem to be a bit thin.
Quote from: wh on August 14, 2016, 11:50:46 AMYou know what makes me uncomfortable - condescending, dismissive micro lectures, like the one you just gave me. "If you don't mind", I'll decide for myself what is appropriate for me to post, when I want to post it, and how I want to phrase it.
Deep breath! You won the initial exchange and should have let his rebuttal stand without comment. You couldn't. This is an unfortunate display of the same weakness that is helping kill Donald Trump. :o
Quote from: a3uge on August 14, 2016, 11:54:10 AMSitting back wondering how this will turn into a discussion about facilities.
Let me attempt to tie this all back together. The facilities here were trash when Ryan arrived, they were trash when he graduated, and they are still trash. I blame this all on BLM and invite everybody to challenge my logic. :crazy:
Hello, can we please get back onto Rowdy, the Boomers and the Olympics please ;D
Quote from: swiftmutiny on August 14, 2016, 12:31:28 PM
Quote from: wh on August 14, 2016, 11:50:46 AM
Quote from: Valpower on August 14, 2016, 10:40:03 AM
Quote from: wh on August 13, 2016, 11:28:06 PM
Quote from: Valpower on August 13, 2016, 09:18:10 PM
Quote from: wh on August 13, 2016, 08:38:01 PM
Not trying to trick anyone. It's the easiest conclusion I've ever drawn. I'd love hear from someone brave enough to predict they won't.
As you've phrased it, the prediction would require two guesses: whether they would make a public expression and whether it would be an embarrassment. The latter is very subjective, of course. There were plenty of people who didn't find the Nazi salute embarrassing in the 1936 Olympics so I'm sure there will be a divergence of opinion on whether this would be a disgrace or not. Brazil certainly has its own problems with systemic racism, so maybe it'll be embarrassing to them.
The Olympic Games are marketed as the one moment in time when nations of the world come together in peace and harmony, rising above differences and divisions, trials and tribulations. This is neither the time nor place for a special interest group from the United States of America to air its dirty laundry. I know black lives matter activists will find this hard to believe, but there are entire populations of people across the globe that would trade places with them in a heartbeat. I've traveled extensively in South America over the years. Trust me, you haven't seen poverty until you have seen the slums of Caracas, or Bogota, or Guayaquil. Who's going to stand up on a medal stand for them? Who's going to stand up for the victims of Christian genocide in the Middle East, or for the people of Israel who sleep next to gas masks every night, or for women and gays who live a lifetime of persecution under a Satanic geo-political system called Sharia? Or for Africans suffering from starvation and an AIDS epidemic? Or for S. Koreans who live in constant fear that the the leader to their north is going to nuke them? Did I mention the people living in ISIS controlled territory that are raped, sold into slavery, shot in the head, drowned in cages, decapitated and crucified? Who's going to wear a Syrian and Iraqi Lives Matter T-shirt for them?
Wh, if you're responding to me, you've gone on quite a tangent. My statement was simple; not everyone would be embarrassed. Now, if you don't mind, the Valparaiso Fan Zone is marketed as a place where fans of Valpo come together in peace and harmony and this is not place for someone to vent about their distaste for a BLM protest, and given that it hasn't even happened, it's certainly not the time. Thanks.
Now, everything I said about impending black lives matter activism at the Olympics is germane to the discussion at hand about spoiled, entitled American athletes acting out inappropriately, starting with the men's basketball team and including the women's soccer team. It's nothing more than the types of discussions Mike and Mike and other sports analysts have every day of the week.
I mostly agree with you on what you've been saying. However, I don't understand why the topic has to be constantly steered into a politically charged realm that is only tangentially related to the subject at hand. When I enter a thread titled "Ryan Broekhoff and Australian Olympic Basketball," I don't want to see a bunch of posts about Black Lives Matter. What I want to see is posts about Ryan Broekhoff and Australian Olympic Basketball. And I think most users here would agree with me. This isn't a radio show that flows from one topic to the next, it's a message board divided up into a variety of categories so that users can easily view and organize the topics they wish to participate in. If you want to talk about what the women's basketball team will do on the podium, or political messages in sports, or the entitlement culture in professional American athletes, go make a new thread about it so the topic can be more deeply explored in the correct space.
Back on topic, Broekhoff and the Boomers play Venezuela tonight at 5:00pm Central, 6:00pm Eastern. Here is the link to the live stream if anyone is interested: http://stream.nbcolympics.com/mens-basketball-prelims-game-26 (http://stream.nbcolympics.com/mens-basketball-prelims-game-26)
Edit: Typo.
Good thoughts and stated respectfully. It's true that unlike professional sports analysts, we do have have a way to separate pure sports talk from the current trend of injecting political ideology into sports. I'll try to be more mindful of that. Thanks for your constructive comments.
Thanks for the reminder Koala. You and Rowdy need to know that most of us are a lot more interested in watching and supporting him than in political discussions. Wishing him the best.
I missed portions of the game but it looks like 10 points, 8 rebounds, 2 assist, and 0 turnovers in 25 minutes of play. I spotted some good defensive decisions as well. Nice days work. :thumbsup:
Oh by the way, we are talking about that Broekhoff fella again.
Broekhoff with the starting assignment tonight! Good stat line, saw him make some nice passes in the first quarter, and as always very good defensively!
Keep up the great work!! Team USA is begging to get beat.
Here is the official write-up and box score, including a nice photo of Rowdy: http://www.basketball.net.au/second-position-in-group-a-secured-by-aussie-men/ (http://www.basketball.net.au/second-position-in-group-a-secured-by-aussie-men/)
And during the Australia vs Venezuela game, it was also great seeing Koala on the telly multiple times!!
Halftime Australia 48- Lithuania 30. The streaming link previously provided will get you there. Only caught the last few minutes but Ryan did hit a contested 3 from the corner.
70-43 Boomers going into the fourth. Looks like the worst case scenario is they play for bronze, best case scenario, US gets beat by Spain and it's Spain-Aussie for the gold.
And now in the 4th with Rowdy getting a lot of run they mention how well he's been playing. That leads to the discussion that he was one of the few Aussies to not go to college on the west coast, coming to Valparaiso (pronounced correctly!) and the British announcer said "They must have a good coach". The other announcer said "Yes they are a good program, after college he played in Turkey and is now starring for Lokomotiv, kind of the Indiana of Europe."
Almost 20 minutes of play with 7 points, 4 assists, 3 rebounds, 1 block and 1 turnover. Another solid performance.
On to the final four...where only the top 3 get anything.
Big game late this afternoon against Serbia. Serbia was up and down the entire game against Croatia, but probably was Australia's toughest opponent in the preliminary round other than the US. Australia has continued to play with a great combination of beautiful teamwork and determination. While I don't have the stats handy, their Assists to Field Goals and Assists to Turnovers ratios must be incredible.
Has a Valparaiso alum ever won an Olympic medal?
Quote from: vu84v2 on August 19, 2016, 09:57:22 AM
Big game late this afternoon against Serbia. Serbia was up and down the entire game against Croatia, but probably was Australia's toughest opponent in the preliminary round other than the US. Australia has continued to play with a great combination of beautiful teamwork and determination. While I don't have the stats handy, their Assists to Field Goals and Assists to Turnovers ratios must be incredible.
Has a Valparaiso alum ever won an Olympic medal?
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Boomers off to about the worst possible start. Need Ryan to hit a three. And he does!
And the awfulness continues to the end of the first half. About as bad a half as they could possibly play. 14 points in the first half? Who would have thought that was possible?
Halftime adjustments are a must. Rowdy with 5 points. I think.
Wow! An ugly team performance! On a scale of 1 to 10 I would say Ryan rated no better than a 4 or 5. Most of his teammates and the coaching staff came in at only 3's or 2's.
Do they have any Pepe's Restaurants in Rio? If so did they have their team diner, breakfast or lunch there? :cheers: ::)
Not sure I agree with your evaluation of Ryan. Other than missing a few shots (something his teammates were very good at, he played his role very well. His role? Hang around waiting for his (tonight) selfish teammates to pass him the ball. He had numerous very good assists, His team stunk tonight. Not so much for Ryan.
Ryan played ok. Wish we could have seen him on the court a bit more. His teammates were playing terribly while he rode the pine. This would have been a perfect opportunity for him to drill shots and stand out as the lone strong performer.
The Aussie coach was blatantly outcoached in this game by his Serbian peer. Sticking with cold players too long, failing to substitute wisely, failing to adjust to matchup issues, etc. Serbia was the better team, and it was not even debatable, but the coaching disparity is what struck me.
Australia will be taking on Spain in the bronze medal match in just a few minutes. Here is the link for those who'd like to watch: http://stream.nbcolympics.com/mens-basketball-bronze-medal (http://stream.nbcolympics.com/mens-basketball-bronze-medal)
Go Aussies! :thumbsup:
After another slow start the boomers trail by only two at the half. Ryan getting playing time but rarely touching the ball on offense. Made some good passes. Would like to see him get a couple of three point attempts but doesn't seem like the guards are looking to dish to him when they penetrate.
Australia cut a 12 point lead to 2 at the half. Playing better than they did against Serbia, but not defending the three point arc very well and still not getting the movement on offense that they had in previous games. Ryan 2-2 from the floor for 5 points. He played about 9 minutes. Need a strong second half effort.
Thankfully, Marv Albert and Doug Collins are not doing the game. Fran Fraschilla and whomever does play-by-play are very good. Best Fraschilla comment so far, "we've been watching Olympic basketball now for 2 weeks and we still have no idea what a foul is." Fraschilla is also complimentary of Ryan and knows how to pronounce his name and Valparaiso.
Quote from: nkvu on August 21, 2016, 10:22:51 AM
After another slow start the boomers trail by only two. Ryan getting playing time but rarely touching the ball on offense. Made some good passes. Would like to see him get a couple of three point attempts but doesn't seem like the guards are looking to dish to him when they penetrate.
Ryan does not move that much on offense - he tends to camp in the corner or out high. The guards tend to find Ingles, Mills, or Andersen more off their drives (especially Andersen since the defending 4 goes low on the drive). Ryan also tends to setup on the weak side and the ball seldom reverses to the weak side (though other than Serbia, Australia's offense has been outstanding).
Australia loses, but a fantastic game. 89-88 and no one had more than a two point lead in the last 4 or 5 minutes. Ryan 5-5 from the floor for 13 points. Pretty amazing that Australia hung tough since Bogut fouled out 3 minutes into the 3rd quarter.
I would definitely have played Ryan down the stretch rather than Ingles.
Two very questionable fouls called on the boomers at the end. The 4 free throws gave Spain the game. Tough loss but an exciting game none the less. Really good game for Rowdy. They had enough confidence in him to put him in for the final seconds with the game on the line.
Great to be able to watch Rowdy play again. Hope he gets a shot at the NBA. Would make me start watching again just to see him play.
Gasol was the difference. Australia could not contain him.
Quote from: vu84v2 on August 21, 2016, 11:29:59 AMI would definitely have played Ryan down the stretch rather than Ingles.
Ryan looked tired when he came out at about 4:30 to go. He was a major player in the last quarter run. He also subbed in defense for offense and was on the floor for the final offensive possession.
Rowdy's Olympic play may not have been jaw dropping but it was reliably solid and should attract some additional NBA interest. Seems like he should fit somewhere as a versatile role player.
Didn't see the game, but Ryan being camped out on the weak side sounds like they were running a pro style offense with a lot of isolation and 2-man game. If so, there is a lot of standing around by the 2 or 3 non-featured players. Obviously, it's used for a reason and I'm sure it's effective, but personally I'm a motion fan.
Actually, Australia ran a tremendous amount of motion offense (which Serbia really cracked down on). It was just that they would run four guys and camp either Ingles or Broekhoff in the corner. Their assists to field goal ratio in the preliminary round games supports that (typical game: 28 assists out of 34 FGs with little fast breaking).
The calls were bad (especially the last one on Mills that gave up the two winning free throws). Bogut fouling out 3 minutes into the 3rd quarter gave Gasol a ton of room.
I do not agree that Ryan looked tired. He never looked or played tired in the tournament.
Quote from: vu84v2 on August 21, 2016, 12:41:52 PMI do not agree that Ryan looked tired.
If he wasn't he should have or would have been. As I recall he came in towards then end of the 3'rd quarter and played very hard during that important stretch. As well as he played in those minutes I was anticipating that he would come out briefly so that he could be reinserted. This is exactly what happened so I am unprepared to critisize the coaches for making the change even if he clearly had the hot hand.
Ryan came out around 4:30, but only came back in as a defensive replacement for the last minute and for the last shot. I agree that he should have sat him for a few minutes and brought him in, but he played Ingles mostly down the stretch. Ryan had a much better game going than Ingles.
I have to agree with what others have said. Two calls at the end of the game were more than questionable, and it was a shame for Rowdy, who played really well, and his team, especially since they played most of the game without Bogut. Mills was given a technical for complaining about a call no more than others had done throughout the game and continued to do so in the final minutes. Then the officials call a phantom foul with less than a minute to play while they had allowed obvious and strenuous pushing, shoving, or hacking during the rest of the game. Those two fouls gave Spain three points and were the difference. Both teams played an exciting and energetic game. The outcome should have been left to the players and not have been decided by the poor call of an official. Even the announcers disagreed with the officials and saw no reason for the calls. On the bright side, after years of wondering, we may have found officials worse than those in the Horizon League! :o
Looking to see Rowdy at the closing ceremonies. Haven't spotted him yet. Hope he is there and enjoying the experience. Wouldn't it be great if he and other b ball alumni would post here occasionally and share with us some of their post grad experiences, particularly when they compete in the olympics. Would love to hear from him.
And I would love to hear from koala about her Rio experience as well.
I hope that Rowdy gets some NBA workouts in the coming weeks! He really only had 1 'bad' game, but everyone on Australia was bad against Serbia. Since Delly and Mills were taking the bulk of the Aussie's shots, I think that Ryan did well with what he was given. I would love to see both Ryan and Peters in the NBA at the same time, only to be joined a few years later by Smits, and our two 4 star recruits!
Ryan continues to make us all proud!!!
Hi all, I am still here never far away. Thank you for your kind words about Ryan, it is much appreciated. It certainly was an experience in Rio and something we won't ever forget. To lose a bronze medal over some dubious call was gut wrenching. Really sad for a game to be decided by the ref and not the two teams on the court. If I could have gotten my hands on that ref 😡 But we are so proud of Ryan and the team, to beat teams that no one gave us any chance of beating was fantastic. As for Rio we really enjoyed it here, people were very friendly, we never felt unsafe and no Mosquitos. Just a shame not more people working at the venues or bus stations spoke English, disappointed in the sly taxi drivers ripping you off, traffic management wasn't that great but overall a great experience. You know what I am sure Rowdy would love to share his experiences, no one has ever asked him too? Good luck in the upcoming season, we will be watching from afar :thumbsup:
koala, I saw and watched that Bronze medal game and am with you, it was taken from Australia. I can only encourage you to ask or even on your behalf share Rowdie's thoughts. It would be so enlightening to the board if he or you could. Thanks for sharing your experience in RIO whether good or bad. The crazy thing is Chicago was a finalist for those Olympics and imagine the outpouring Rowdie and the Roos would've had playing in his collegiate city. As far as I'm concerned Valpo is an extension of Chicago.