Your First Place Crusaders; with Alec Peters needing 6 points for the 2nd career record in two games.
Great watching the crowd react to Alec's rebounds against GB... when he got to 14... then 15 for the tie...and finally... the spontaneous standing ovation when he got #911.
Let me be the first to say it, talksalot. I do not want any updates on the Packers game. I do not want any spoilers. As is the case with many fans, I will be recording the game (as suggested by Luke in the post-game interview), and want to watch it without knowing how it will progress beforehand.
I hope to see the same Crusaders team that played last night.
I did, however, appreciate the scoring update with Oakland losing!
About a month I ago, I coordinated a road trip from Indy with some friends and happened to pick Sunday's game. I picked a great game to make a road trip to!
We're doing a double-header this weekend. Going to the Butler game Saturday at DePaul and the Valpo game Sunday.
humbleopinion - If you can make it out of the ARC with no Packers updates, I'll be impressed. Be sure to record extra time.
Let's see ... no packer updates... That's easy... I would only announce it if they are losing BIG. (Like the ORena update). I for one am looking forward to reading Oren's story in the paper about the game. I'm guessing he'll be in the ARC, watching the Atlanta game.
Here's the Box Score from the 12/30 games at the Pavilion
http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/boxscore/2016-17/5936/valpo-vs-uic-12-30-2016/
in front of 3,826 ... which I'm told was about 1/3rd Valpo people!
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Here's the recap
Friday, December 30, 2016
The Valparaiso University men's basketball team closed out the 2016 calendar year on a high note in opening Horizon League play with a road win Friday afternoon, taking down UIC in front of a national TV audience by a 70-59 final. The Crusaders were led by the efforts of junior Tevonn Walker (Montreal, Quebec/Vanier College), who tallied 17 of his season-best 23 points in the second half.
How It Happened
UIC led for much of the early stages of the lead, pulling out ahead by as many as five points (14-9, 12:57). But the Crusaders responded with a 10-0 run spanning the next four minutes to claim the lead for good.
Valpo earned its largest lead of the first half at the horn for halftime, as freshman Derrik Smits (Zionsville, Ind./Zionsville) closed out a nine-point effort in the opening 20 minutes with a tip-in at the buzzer to give the Crusaders a 31-24 lead at intermission.
With the lead cut to three points early in the second half, Walker scored five straight points for the Crusaders to push the advantage to 38-30 with 15:18 remaining.
The Flames scored the next seven points in less than a minute's time to close to within one point, but again Walker stepped up, connecting on 3-pointers on back-to-back Crusader possessions. In all, the junior scored 13 straight points for Valpo to help stave off UIC.
The Flames cut their deficit to one possession just once the remainder of the game, as a Tarkus Ferguson layup with 8:35 to play made it a 47-44 ball game. But the Crusaders answered with a layup by senior Shane Hammink (Millingen aan de Rijn, Netherlands/Oakley College [LSU]) and two free throws from senior Alec Peters (Washington, Ill./Washington) to extend the lead back to seven points.
A 3-point play by UIC's KJ Santos cut Valpo's lead to 58-53 with 3:50 to go, but the Crusaders reeled off six straight points over the next 1:29 to ice the game, while the Flames failed to get a shot off in that same stretch.
Inside the Game
Walker missed just one field goal attempt on Friday, finishing 8-of-9 from the floor and 5-of-5 from the foul line for his season-best 23 points – the second 20-point effort of his season. It was his first time pacing the Crusaders in the scoring column since dropping 24 in a win at Oakland last season on Jan. 8.
Despite struggling from the floor, Peters finished with 18 points, thanks in large part to a 7-of-8 effort from the foul line. The senior also pulled down a game-high 11 rebounds for his fifth consecutive double-double.
With his third rebound of the day, Peters moved into second place in program history in career rebounds. He now sits at 2,032 points and 849 rebounds for his career – just 110 points and 61 rebounds shy of the program's records in both categories.
Peters also moved into second in Valpo history in career field goals made (684, 12 shy of the record) and eighth place in Horizon League history in career scoring on Friday.
Smits finished with a season-high 11 points on 5-of-8 shooting in his second career start. The freshman also pulled down a season-best six rebounds.
Valpo out-rebounded UIC by a 41-28 margin – the fourth time this year the Crusaders have held a double-figure edge on the glass. 15 of the Crusaders' boards came on the offensive end, leading to 20 second-chance points.
The Crusaders, who entered the nation fifth in the nation in free throw percentage, continued their strong effort at the foul line this year. Valpo went 16-of-19 at the charity stripe, including 14-of-15 over the final 20 minutes.
UIC (7-7, 0-1 Horizon) placed three players in double figures, led by 16 points from Tarkus Ferguson.
With the win, Valpo closes out the 2016 calendar year with a 31-7 record, bookending the year with wins over UIC. Peters finishes 2016 with 809 points over the 38 games.
Friday's win was the Crusaders' 16th consecutive victory over the Flames, including their eighth straight at the UIC Pavilion.
I think this might be a tough game. They beat up on the bottom half of the league so far, and might have their confidence built up. Their only losses so far are to us and Oakland, arguably the top teams in the conference. And with a good chance of being 4-2 coming here it'd be a good game to give a team their third loss.
I'm pretty happy Alec has the chance to break the record at the ARC in front of the home crowd and almost just as importantly that I can hear Todd Ickow on the call. Todd is an icon of Valpo Basketball.
https://twitter.com/ToddIckow/status/821139011519610881
Valpo 77
UIC 66
Quote from: talksalot on January 17, 2017, 09:46:37 AMLet's see ... no packer updates... That's easy... I would only announce it if they are losing BIG. (Like the ORena update). I for one am looking forward to reading Oren's story in the paper about the game. I'm guessing he'll be in the ARC, watching the Atlanta game.
Unfortunately I won't be in attendance. It will be first D1 Valparaiso home game I've missed since becoming the beat reporter. Best friend lives in Vegas and is turning 40. Flying out on Friday night and back Sunday night. The fact Green Bay is playing for Super Bowl berth is icing on the cake.
QuoteUnfortunately I won't be in attendance. It will be first D1 Valparaiso home game I've missed since becoming the beat reporter. Best friend lives in Vegas and is turning 40. Flying out on Friday night and back Sunday night. The fact Green Bay is playing for Super Bowl berth is icing on the cake.
Parker moves well for 40 ;)
https://twitter.com/ParkerGatewood/status/818922042879832065
Valpo 76-60 winners!
Joking aside, can we confirm there will NOT be any score updates on the NFL game?
Yes I will confirm that.
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on January 17, 2017, 07:28:35 PMJoking aside, can we confirm there will NOT be any score updates on the NFL game?
It's like #LastMan come early!
Didn't Whelliston's game get broken -at the ARC- one year, by somebody in the student section with a sign board?
Quote from: agibson on January 17, 2017, 08:36:49 PMJoking aside, can we confirm there will NOT be any score updates on the NFL game? It's like #LastMan come early! Didn't Whelliston's game get broken -at the ARC- one year, by somebody in the student section with a sign board?
Yes, that was my friends :)
QuoteDidn't Whelliston's game get broken -at the ARC- one year, by somebody in the student section with a sign board?
Guilty as charged. :cheers:
Nice!
I don't know how he took it, personally.
But, from his blog (RIP, RIP) it sounded like he got a real kick out of it.
Now that we are back in the driver's seat, we need to put the pedal to the metal. The defense has been good, but we can get better!
Valpo 81
UIC 65
Quote from: agibson on January 17, 2017, 08:36:49 PM
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on January 17, 2017, 07:28:35 PMJoking aside, can we confirm there will NOT be any score updates on the NFL game?
It's like #LastMan come early!
Didn't Whelliston's game get broken -at the ARC- one year, by somebody in the student section with a sign board?
Yes it did. I suspect ValpoHoops was in on it, in fact ;)
By the way, I'll be hoping Green Bay loses Sunday because I have a coworker who is a huge Packers fan, and if they are in the Super Bowl, I'm afraid he'll kill me in #Lastman at some point.
At first I panicked for an instant because that's the weekend of my Milwaukee-Green Bay road trip, but fortunately I'll be long gone from Wisconsin by the time the Super Bowl starts ;) But avoiding my coworker will be a lot harder.
So this is what Bears fans do during the playoffs?
Quote from: a3uge on January 18, 2017, 05:25:24 PM
So this is what Bears fans do during the playoffs?
There's a football game this weekend?
Quote from: valpo84 on January 18, 2017, 05:28:31 PMThere's a football game this weekend?
There's football every weekend, in some country or another. The Bundesliga is back this weekend, the Premier League continues, etc. But the Champions League isn't back until Valentine's Day.
Ewww soccer...the only sport that I hate more then football.
Go back to 1993... eerie similarities ...
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1993-02-07/sports/9303176531_1_valparaiso-coach-homer-drew-casey-schmidt-overtime
There were some great games between Valpo and UIC back then. At the time, UIC seemed SOOO much better than Valpo.
My, have the tables turned since then. :)
That was an amazing game. It was a rare game that was on TV around the Midwest, including where we were living. We had a function that evening that we had to get to and I couldn't tear myself away from the TV to go. That was a 3-point shooting team!! There were a lot of OT games that year 7 or 8 and that game and season contributed to a pivotal season for Coach Drew and Valpo in basketball. Sometimes I believe that game itself could be pointed at when team, coaches, fans believed that the corner had been turned. It preceded the greatest incoming classes to that point and led to the 1998 successes and the mid-major power we know and love that has continued.
1992-93 -- the first AMCU-8 tourney win since Homer's first year, a 7-5 finish to the season with that UIC win; and they really should have won the game against WSU in the semis at the Nutter Center. They were clearly "homered" in that game. It was held at WSU that year as part of a rigged deal to get WSU in the AMCU-8 after the bolting if certain schools to the "Horizon." Billy Edwards was a player though. They were demolished by IU at the Hoosier Dome in the first round. Valpo89 and FW have the way back machine working OT in my brain this morning.
QuoteThere were some great games between Valpo and UIC back then. At the time, UIC seemed SOOO much better than Valpo.
My, have the tables turned since then. :)
I think so far we can tell Valpo is in good hands with Coach Lottich and this coaching staff. There was that small stretch of games where the team looked flat/tired but that is the nature of college basketball. Those things happen. We've seen development from the young players. Micah is coming around and looked better the last few games.
As for UIC, I think that team is going to be very tough the next few years. Steve McClain can recruit the hell out of players but he's still shown to lack in the coaching department on the X's & O's and managing the game on the court. I really think the Horizon League is on the up swing as a Mid-Major conference.
Quote from: Valpo89 on January 19, 2017, 10:05:14 AM
There were some great games between Valpo and UIC back then. At the time, UIC seemed SOOO much better than Valpo.
My, have the tables turned since then. :)
Sherell Ford? Man, I haven't heard/read that name in years. That guy used to shred Valpo.
Ah yes, the early 90's...when a 12-16 record was something to celebrate, and a win against UIC or Cleveland State was a pretty big deal.
Just to put this in perspective, Valpo hasn't lost to UIC in eight years. Eight years. UIC still leads the overall series by three games.
Quote from: valpo84 on January 19, 2017, 11:06:01 AM
1992-93 -- the first AMCU-8 tourney win since Homer's first year, a 7-5 finish to the season with that UIC win; and they really should have won the game against WSU in the semis at the Nutter Center. They were clearly "homered" in that game. It was held at WSU that year as part of a rigged deal to get WSU in the AMCU-8 after the bolting if certain schools to the "Horizon." Billy Edwards was a player though. They were demolished by IU at the Hoosier Dome in the first round. Valpo89 and FW have the way back machine working OT in my brain this morning.
That season was definitely a turning point, to put it simply, from Valpo being bad to Valpo being good. David Redmon and Casey Schmidt transferring "home" to play for Homer is what put VU on the map. It enabled Scott to bring in quality players down the road, not to mention Bryce deciding to stay home.
That tournament at Wright State was fun. Valpo, as No. 7 seed, beat No. 2 Northern Illinois in the first round. It was great because NIU was coming off an NCAA appearance, I believe, and they had players who thought they were all that and there was no way they could lose to lowly Valpo. Well, when David Redmon bounced an inbounds pass off the ass of an NIU player, retrieved it and scored - game over.
The next game against Wright State was tough. Not only did they have Billy Edwards, they had a 7-2 player named Mike Nahar who was pretty decent. Their coach was Ralph Underhill, who would eventually be arrested for stealing vitamins from a Walmart or something like that.
Now those were the days.
The next season started Valpo's string of 20-win seasons.
I enjoy reading all of this history. Hell, now that I think about it, here we are talking about a conference tournament win against Northern Illinois, but just having Valpo make the post season Mid-Con tournament was even huge back then. Only the top eight teams made the conference tournament IIRC, and I'm sure you can guess who last place team #9 was on more than one occasion. That season was a definite turning point for sure.
It's crazy crusaderjoe. When the mass exodus happened in the old Mid-Con, Valpo and Western Illinois were left hanging. Jon Steinbrecher did a heck of a job patching together enough schools to keep the Mid-Con's automatic bid. The schools who left the old Mid-Con - in part because they didn't want to be in the same league as Valpo - were UIC, Green Bay, Milwaukee, Wright State and Cleveland State. They went to the Midwestern Collegiate Conference, which then changed its name to the Horizon League. The Horizon adds Valpo, Butler and Loyola leave, and what do we have now? Basically a version of the old Mid-Con plus Northern Kentucky and Oakland. I'm not sure, but I think even Detroit at one time may have been a member of the Mid-Con - which, for you youngsters out there, is now the Summit League.
Detroit was not a member of the Mid-Con, but Chicago State, Central Connecticut, Akron, Buffalo, Troy and Centenary were at some point or another.
And yes, 89, Nahar was a good post player. At some point, they had another good Center that went to the NBA, Vitaly Potapenko who was with the Cavs somewhere in the 1990s.
Still a little salty about that loss to UIC in the Mid-Con tourney in '94. Everyone knew that the conference was breaking up and Valpo (as well as a couple of other schools) was going to be left to twist in the wind. I was hoping we would win it that year just as a big "eff you" to the league but UIC ended that possibility. UIC had our number that year.
That '95 team deserves some credit too IMO, as far as setting this whole thing off as far as VU basketball is concerned. We'd been used to seeing 20+ losses a year regularly, and then Valpo gets a 20 win season in '94, and in '95 that team put together a nice season for the fans and alumni to keep it going. Valpo wins the conference tournament, and what do they get to show for it? Nothing. No automatic NCAA bid because the Mid-Con had been gutted because of the exodus. No NIT either. Nothing.
Not to rip the scab off the wound, and as RLH would say, this is all water under the bridge now, and it really is, but since we've gone all nostalgic, did we ever come to a consensus on this board as to who or which entity was responsible for the Mid-Con exodus of 1994? Wasn't it Wright State that led the deflection or is my memory off?
I was always led to believe that Wright State led the charge, and the others followed. They thought they were "too good." Plus, they were a relatively new Mid-Con school at the time, moving around to different leagues and always looking for the next best thing.
Look how well that turned out for them. Oops.
Good story about UIC in today's Chicago Tribune. Includes some positive comments about Peters.
Quote from: valpo84 on January 19, 2017, 04:32:21 PM
Detroit was not a member of the Mid-Con, but Chicago State, Central Connecticut, Akron, Buffalo, Troy and Centenary were at some point or another.
While Valpo was a member of the Mid-Con, these other teams (non-Horizon) were also a part: (SW) Missouri State, Northern Iowa, Eastern Illinois, Northern Illinois, Northeastern Illinois, UMKC, Southern Utah, Oral Roberts, and IUPUI.
Quote from: sliman on January 20, 2017, 09:37:23 AM
Good story about UIC in today's Chicago Tribune. Includes some positive comments about Peters.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-uic-injuries-depth-around-city-spt-0120-20170119-story.html
A little about Alec. A lot about their injury situation, including dressing a manager last game so they'd have eight in uniform.
A related question, which came up in a discussion of the Jubril situation, are student managers paid? Sometimes? Usually? Never? Sort of an internship deal? I suppose if you're paying them you couldn't put them in a uniform. But, student athletes certainly work campus jobs, including at other sporting events: baseball players working concessions, soccer players checking tickets, track athletes acting as ball boys at soccer games.
Quote from: agibson on January 20, 2017, 11:22:06 AM
Quote from: sliman on January 20, 2017, 09:37:23 AM
Good story about UIC in today's Chicago Tribune. Includes some positive comments about Peters.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-uic-injuries-depth-around-city-spt-0120-20170119-story.html
A little about Alec. A lot about their injury situation, including dressing a manager last game so they'd have eight in uniform.
A related question, which came up in a discussion of the Jubril situation, are student managers paid? Sometimes? Usually? Never? Sort of an internship deal? I suppose if you're paying them you couldn't put them in a uniform. But, student athletes certainly work campus jobs, including at other sporting events: baseball players working concessions, soccer players checking tickets, track athletes acting as ball boys at soccer games.
I feel pretty confident in saying that our student managers are not paid. But I have spoke with someone who was a manager at Purdue a couple years ago and he said they received a stipend. It's not surprising if all the bigger schools did pay their managers since they a big part of practices, game day preparations, etc.
QuoteI feel pretty confident in saying that our student managers are not paid. But I have spoke with someone who was a manager at Purdue a couple years ago and he said they received a stipend. It's not surprising if all the bigger schools did pay their managers since they a big part of practices, game day preparations, etc.
One of my friends was a student manager on the basketball team his freshman/sophomore year and he wasn't paid. Those student managers put in a lot of time and work for the team with out getting paid and are definitely under-appreciated from an outsiders perspective. I think a lot of student managers are future coaching hopefuls. I know Alec's brother Austin is a manager and I've talked to a few people who say he's going to be a head coach one day.
I started this thread by calling us the First Place Crusaders... now we are ALONE in first place thanks to the Penguins win last night at the Resch Center.
1. Valpo 5-1
2. Oakland 5-2
2. GreenBay 5-2
4. UIC 4-2
5. Wright State 4-3
6. Northern KY 3-4
7. Youngstown St 3-5
8. Milwaukee 2-5
8. Detroit 2-5
10.Cleveland State 2-6
No Let Down ! Lets start the separation process tomorrow... and keep it rolling !
Quote from: talksalot on January 21, 2017, 07:37:56 AMI started this thread by calling us the First Place Crusaders... now we are ALONE in first place thanks to the Penguins win last night at the Resch Center. 1. Valpo 5-1 2. Oakland 5-2 2. GreenBay 5-2 4. UIC 4-2 5. Wright State 4-3 6. Northern KY 3-4 7. Youngstown St 3-5 8. Milwaukee 2-5 8. Detroit 2-5 10.Cleveland State 2-6 No Let Down ! Lets start the separation process tomorrow... and keep it rolling !
NKU had a halftime lead on Oakland. Would have given a little more cushion had NKU kept it up in the second half. The big question is, what is considered to be the toughest road trip? We have yet to do any of the proposed three most difficult road trips.
Oakland/Detroit
Green Bay/Milwaukee
NKU/WSU
The toughest road trip? This year, it's Valpo/UIC. :)
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 21, 2017, 08:01:40 AMWe have yet to do any of the proposed three most difficult road trips.
Oakland/Detroit
Green Bay/Milwaukee
NKU/WSU
Most difficult after Valpo/UIC, naturally.
But no question we've got a lot of work left to do, particularly on the road. Oakland will of course be tough and very important, and NKU/WSU will almost certainly seem important because it's last.
When you're on top, every game is important.
Quote from: agibson on January 20, 2017, 11:22:06 AMQuote from: sliman on January 20, 2017, 09:37:23 AMGood story about UIC in today's Chicago Tribune. Includes some positive comments about Peters.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-uic-injuries-depth-around-city-spt-0120-20170119-story.html A little about Alec. A lot about their injury situation, including dressing a manager last game so they'd have eight in uniform. A related question, which came up in a discussion of the Jubril situation, are student managers paid? Sometimes? Usually? Never? Sort of an internship deal? I suppose if you're paying them you couldn't put them in a uniform. But, student athletes certainly work campus jobs, including at other sporting events: baseball players working concessions, soccer players checking tickets, track athletes acting as ball boys at soccer games.
Aren't those positions work study?
In the Oakland/NKU game, NKU was terrible in free throw shooting, particularly late in the game. I think they missed 5 consecutive free throws, including two occasions when they were fouled while shooting. They really choked at crunch time.
Quote from: valpo64 on January 21, 2017, 11:00:45 AM
In the Oakland/NKU game, NKU was terrible in free throw shooting, particularly late in the game. I think they missed 5 consecutive free throws, including two occasions when they were fouled while shooting. They really choked at crunch time.
OU has some continuity issues and has to get better playing as a TEAM. They are launching early shot clock and getting poor efficiency shots leading to poor outside shooting %. It's quite sad, because an inside out game with Jalen Hayes would be deadly. He has some very decent post moves and finishes well.
Keep in mind the OU "criminal" PG Stevie Wonder wasn't playing for some reason. And Isaiah Brock is hobbled with a hip injury, his hops aren't there at the moment.
They destroyed us, so they have high upside and will come around. Of course we were playing against ourselves too that night vs OU (was there). Shell shocked is not a good look.
Clarke had a thumb injury.
Seems like a lot of HL road wins so far in conference play. I hope that will not continue for the UIC visit.
You guys make it so hard to keep ones mouth shut. Criminal, Clark got busted for weed. Twice. Funny it's legal in 1/3 of the country but he's a criminal. Yet your guy Cheats. Academic Fraud. But that's OK. Let him play right. Because no one on your team has ever smoked weed. Word going around is NCAA is involved. No one on Oaklands board has tried to embarrass your kid, no ones called him out. But you live that private school Christian life. I guess it makes you feel better, or makes Valpo look better even though he kick your butt, to call Stevie, a kid you have never meant, a criminal. What are you gong to say when your school has to vacate wins, or even worse, vacate a championship.. that's ok, have at it, it's a message board, you can hide in anonymity
Quote from: Grizz on January 21, 2017, 02:42:24 PM
You guys make it so hard to keep ones mouth shut. Criminal, Clark got busted for weed. Twice. Funny it's legal in 1/3 of the country but he's a criminal. Yet your guy Cheats. Academic Fraud. But that's OK. Let him play right. Because no one on your team has ever smoked weed. Word going around is NCAA is involved. No one on Oaklands board has tried to embarrass your kid, no ones called him out. But you live that private school Christian life. I guess it makes you feel better, or makes Valpo look better even though he kick your butt, to call Stevie, a kid you have never meant, a criminal. What are you gong to say when your school has to vacate wins, or even worse, vacate a championship.. that's ok, have at it, it's a message board, you can hide in anonymity
But that grammar tho
Quote from: Grizz on January 21, 2017, 02:42:24 PM
You guys make it so hard to keep ones mouth shut. Criminal, Clark got busted for weed. Twice. Funny it's legal in 1/3 of the country but he's a criminal. Yet your guy Cheats. Academic Fraud. But that's OK. Let him play right. Because no one on your team has ever smoked weed. Word going around is NCAA is involved. No one on Oaklands board has tried to embarrass your kid, no ones called him out. But you live that private school Christian life. I guess it makes you feel better, or makes Valpo look better even though he kick your butt, to call Stevie, a kid you have never meant, a criminal. What are you gong to say when your school has to vacate wins, or even worse, vacate a championship.. that's ok, have at it, it's a message board, you can hide in anonymity
I'm referring to hanging his man piece out of a car window to relieve himself publicly. This was after the arrest you speak for weed, of which I have no issue with.
I welcome a correction if that act I refer to wasn't prosecuted. But as far as Christian goes...I grew up an OU fan from north of Detroit. Keep your trolling to a minimal. If you read the remainder of my posts you will see someone with top respect for a team I grew up watching. Kampe is one great guy.
Christian has nothing to do with it. Your university sits in one of Americas richest suburbs with a stretch of homes called "The Million Dollar Mile".
P.S. Stevie CLARK is easy to hate. So if my honest comments get you going you might consider medicating before you come trolling again.
Gee, I thought this thread was about the Valpo UIC Game on Sunday... silly me.
Variety is the spice of life Talks! 😉
Variety is a Hollywood Magazine.
and the Dictionary.Com uses this appropriate definition:
a number of different types of things, especially ones in the same general category:
ie., a large variety of fruits.
Quote from: talksalot on January 21, 2017, 05:31:43 PM
Variety is a Hollywood Magazine.
and the Dictionary.Com uses this appropriate definition:
a number of different types of things, especially ones in the same general category:
ie., a large variety of fruits.
Welcome to off topic 🎊🎉💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻
Shoutout to whoever took the Over in 'Number of Oakland fans getting defensive in the UIC game thread'.
So what records are within reach for tomorrow's game?
-Points (7)
-Free Throws (19) if he breaks his own record for a game
-Others?
How about for the season, is he close on any other career records or season records?
I'll be there with a buddy and his son to see history!
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on January 21, 2017, 07:27:10 PM
So what records are within reach for tomorrow's game?
-Points (7)
-Free Throws (19) if he breaks his own record for a game
-Others?
How about for the season, is he close on any other career records or season records?
I'll be there with a buddy and his son to see history!
Isn't every time he starts a record?
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Quote from: Grizz on January 21, 2017, 02:42:24 PMYou guys make it so hard to keep ones mouth shut. Criminal, Clark got busted for weed. Twice. Funny it's legal in 1/3 of the country but he's a criminal. Yet your guy Cheats. Academic Fraud. But that's OK. Let him play right. Because no one on your team has ever smoked weed. Word going around is NCAA is involved. No one on Oaklands board has tried to embarrass your kid, no ones called him out. But you live that private school Christian life. I guess it makes you feel better, or makes Valpo look better even though he kick your butt, to call Stevie, a kid you have never meant, a criminal. What are you gong to say when your school has to vacate wins, or even worse, vacate a championship.. that's ok, have at it, it's a message board, you can hide in anonymity
No such thing as academic fraud at commuter U. 1. One doesn't have to cheat to pass the classes at OU. 2. OU would have looked the other way and gave him a second chance.
Didn't Stevie try and sue Okie State University?
QuoteYou guys make it so hard to keep ones mouth shut. Criminal, Clark got busted for weed. Twice. Funny it's legal in 1/3 of the country but he's a criminal. Yet your guy Cheats. Academic Fraud. But that's OK. Let him play right. Because no one on your team has ever smoked weed. Word going around is NCAA is involved. No one on Oaklands board has tried to embarrass your kid, no ones called him out. But you live that private school Christian life. I guess it makes you feel better, or makes Valpo look better even though he kick your butt, to call Stevie, a kid you have never meant, a criminal. What are you gong to say when your school has to vacate wins, or even worse, vacate a championship.. that's ok, have at it, it's a message board, you can hide in anonymity
Grizz, well that escalated quickly.
I (many others around here) could careless if Stevie smoked weed. I don't think many on this board try or even talk much about "embarrassing" OU players. I don't agree with FieldGoodie05's "criminal" comment, was a bit much for me. He got in trouble with the law and had some maturity issues and got kicked out of school and fortunately got a chance somewhere else. Most every kid deserves a second chance and Kampe gave him that chance. Kampe is a good man and a very entertaining personality.
To even compare the alleged Jubril situation of cheating on a paper or whatever it is to actually breaking the law and getting arrested like some on the Oakland roster is slightly comical and hypocritical. In 2013 a few players from Oakland were arrested for allegedly raping a girl. Martez Walker got kicked off the University of Texas team for beating his girlfriend and domestic abuse charges. Kendrick Nunn was kicked off the University of Illinois team for domestic abuse last spring. Those are some serious incidents and pale into comparison to the Jubril situation and I don't think thats my "private Christian school" biases coming out. I'm not trying to embarrass anyone, just laying out the facts to put things into perspective. Everyone deserves a second chance and not one incident should define a person (in most cases) or a program. All kids at every University make mistakes. Oakland has some really great guys like Isaiah Brock and last year Max Hooper, among others. Lets all tone down the rhetoric and relax.
Lets get back to basketball and the UIC game on sunday.
Hooray for game day!
Quote from: M on January 22, 2017, 11:28:13 AM
Hooray for game day!
Can I get an Amen!
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I'm not quite sure what Mardi Gras Day will mean, or why it's in January, but some students seemed to know about it.
Apparently it's also Scout Day or some such, and someone folks at church asked me for parking suggestions, bringing several folks with them.
Hopefully a good crowd for a record setting day! And a win!
Would be good to hang a third L on UIC and get a little separation.
I'm also curious as to the crowd size today. Taylor Bruninga is visiting today and will be at the game. Hopefully we have a great crowd. Taylor is getting a lot of attention the last month or so. He's an impressive recruit. Should be interesting to see the turn out competing head to head with the Packers-Falcons game.
Also here is a the first half highlights from Bruninga's most recent game. 28pts (4/5FG, 3-3 from 3, 11-11FT). Alec appears at the end of the video.
I'm not saying he's going to be as good Alec (that's an unfair comparison to both of them), but the kid has the tools and height. He's actually probably a slightly more athletic. I think he'd be a great fit here and would have a great opportunity.
He was just visiting Illinois State yesterday and just received an offer.
https://twitter.com/Illinois_Irish/status/823237880508248064
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4ZOZ2LUtWA
28 points on only 7 shot attempts and 11-11 FT's. Near perfection.
Great post and video!
Someone asked about the toughest road trip, and I still say that is the GB/Milwaukee road trip. Any time that you can come away with 1-2 wins in that swing, you have done well, regardless of their records.
Also, there should be no comparisons between Jubril's situation and the transgressions that Oakland's players have committed in the past. You would not see those players accepted into Valpo based on their offenses, whereas they get their second chances at Oakland on a consistent basis. I don't care how 'good' you think someone is, if they have struck a woman, they are a small and evil man in my mind.
20 min till game time. Sparse crowd. Maybe 40 students.
Quote from: wh on January 22, 2017, 01:41:55 PM20 min till game time. Sparse crowd. Maybe 40 students.
Seems to have filled in nicely, but I'm only on ESPN3. 3000-3500 maybe?
How many times have we scored 50 in a half, against a Division I team?
Another dominating performance. Funny to see Sorolla playing in the clean up role versus Derrik. I think J is better at this time. Also, unfortunately, Micah still looks like a deer in the headlights. Concerning...
Getting some National Love. Alec Peters = 🐐
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/823263273449562112
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/823263862837350401
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/823292167531569152
https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/823292294187151361
Luke Gore told Todd that we are a different team now from the one that played UIC the first time.
I think Jay and Derrik together were 4 for 4 on mid range jump shots. Drawing Odiase away from the basket is a good first step in beating them.
As bad as UIC looked today they should be in the fight for the top next year. I am already wondering where we will fall in the 17-18 pre-season poll?
ATLANTA 44 GREEN BAY 21....
Finally, I can say the score in THAT game.
This may sound a little crazy given the lopsided nature of the game, but IMO UIC's program has finally turned the corner. They have some skilled young players that run a disciplined offense with a lot of sets and play hard from beginning to end. Definitely a positive sign for the HL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwiF-2w--zM
What a complete dismantling of a top half of the league team. Wow! In front of several recruits. This team has really turned it around since those few games over break. This is a special coaching staff too. Really like Lottich, Manual and of course Gore.
Quote from: M on January 22, 2017, 06:45:11 PM
What a complete dismantling of a top half of the league team. Wow! In front of several recruits. This team has really turned it around since those few games over break. This is a special coaching staff too. Really like Lottich, Manual and of course Gore.
Saw TAYLOR Bruninga there, who else was a recruit at the game?
I heard there was only Taylor Bruninga there. Were there more?
5 NBA scouts were in attendance.
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/823246954805293057
Didn't someone say that Sasha Stefanovic was going to be there?
Quote from: wh on January 22, 2017, 01:41:55 PM
20 min till game time. Sparse crowd. Maybe 40 students.
Considering the weather was unseasonably warm, the game was on a Sunday afternoon and did not conflict with classes or any other competing events on campus, it is early in the semester when there aren't major papers or midterm and final exams, the team is in first place, the opponent was from Chicago (a home to many students), there was television coverage on the Comcast Sports Network, free shirts were given out, and Alec (a future NBA player in his senior year) was definitely going to break Valpo's greatest personal record held by Bryce Drew, the lack of student turnout was embarrassing.
Quote from: valpopal on January 22, 2017, 07:22:13 PM
Quote from: wh on January 22, 2017, 01:41:55 PM
20 min till game time. Sparse crowd. Maybe 40 students.
Considering the weather was unseasonably warm, the game was on a Sunday afternoon and did not conflict with classes or any other competing events on campus, it is early in the semester when there aren't major papers or midterm and final exams, the team is in first place, the opponent was from Chicago (a home to many students), there was television coverage on the Comcast Sports Network, free shirts were given out, and Alec (a future NBA player in his senior year) was definitely going to break Valpo's greatest personal record held by Bryce Drew, the lack of student turnout was embarrassing.
Was standing behind the student section with 3-minutes to tip and there was less than 6 full rows of students in total. It's sad, I bet good money that a good number of them are watching the game from their dorms. We didn't have that option 15 years ago, so the student section was pretty robust in the Phil Willie days!!!
Quote from: valpopal on January 22, 2017, 07:22:13 PM
Quote from: wh on January 22, 2017, 01:41:55 PM
20 min till game time. Sparse crowd. Maybe 40 students.
Considering the weather was unseasonably warm, the game was on a Sunday afternoon and did not conflict with classes or any other competing events on campus, it is early in the semester when there aren't major papers or midterm and final exams, the team is in first place, the opponent was from Chicago (a home to many students), there was television coverage on the Comcast Sports Network, free shirts were given out, and Alec (a future NBA player in his senior year) was definitely going to break Valpo's greatest personal record held by Bryce Drew, the lack of student turnout was embarrassing.
Well said Pal. As a guy who went to every basketball & football game, when I was in school (not VU), I am appalled and perplexed at the lack of students today.
Shane has been real good lately. Biggest difference is attacking the lane to score and not looking to pass on those drives. Keep it up!
Quote from: valpospartan on January 22, 2017, 07:43:38 PMQuote from: valpopal on January 22, 2017, 07:22:13 PMQuote from: wh on January 22, 2017, 01:41:55 PM20 min till game time. Sparse crowd. Maybe 40 students.
Considering the weather was unseasonably warm, the game was on a Sunday afternoon and did not conflict with classes or any other competing events on campus, it is early in the semester when there aren't major papers or midterm and final exams, the team is in first place, the opponent was from Chicago (a home to many students), there was television coverage on the Comcast Sports Network, free shirts were given out, and Alec (a future NBA player in his senior year) was definitely going to break Valpo's greatest personal record held by Bryce Drew, the lack of student turnout was embarrassing.
Well said Pal. As a guy who went to every basketball & football game, when I was in school (not VU), I am appalled and perplexed at the lack of students today.
Student section looked decent to me in the first half, although maybe the kids that painted their chests made it look bigger than it was. I noticed that it really thinned out after halftime though. I bet a lot of students were there just to see AP break the record.
Reported attendance was 3881, which was more than I thought it'd be.
Quote from: M on January 22, 2017, 10:49:57 PMShane has been real good lately. Biggest difference is attacking the lane to score and not looking to pass on those drives. Keep it up!
He's managed to not give the ball to his defender 6 times a game these days, too...
Quote from: vu72 on January 22, 2017, 04:16:11 PMAnother dominating performance. Funny to see Sorolla playing in the clean up role versus Derrik. I think J is better at this time. Also, unfortunately, Micah still looks like a deer in the headlights. Concerning...
Valpo is clearly not starting it's best 5 players, and it's working. We need some support in the second rotation, and balancing the bench while letting smits/micah play with AP and Shane has been what has spurred this team. Plus, Sorolla is often getting more minutes than Derek anyway. I've also come to wonder to what extent Lexus' role change has been due to his knee starting to break down... saw him riding the bike towards the end of yesterdays game
Quote from: hailcrusaders on January 23, 2017, 02:21:03 AM
Quote from: valpospartan on January 22, 2017, 07:43:38 PMQuote from: valpopal on January 22, 2017, 07:22:13 PMQuote from: wh on January 22, 2017, 01:41:55 PM20 min till game time. Sparse crowd. Maybe 40 students.
Considering the weather was unseasonably warm, the game was on a Sunday afternoon and did not conflict with classes or any other competing events on campus, it is early in the semester when there aren't major papers or midterm and final exams, the team is in first place, the opponent was from Chicago (a home to many students), there was television coverage on the Comcast Sports Network, free shirts were given out, and Alec (a future NBA player in his senior year) was definitely going to break Valpo's greatest personal record held by Bryce Drew, the lack of student turnout was embarrassing.
Well said Pal. As a guy who went to every basketball & football game, when I was in school (not VU), I am appalled and perplexed at the lack of students today.
Student section looked decent to me in the first half, although maybe the kids that painted their chests made it look bigger than it was. I noticed that it really thinned out after halftime though. I bet a lot of students were there just to see AP break the record.
Reported attendance was 3881, which was more than I thought it'd be.
Osipoff posted a video on Twitter of Alec's record-breaking shot that shows the whole student section, which was only about half full at that time.
Quote from: hailcrusaders on January 23, 2017, 02:21:03 AMQuote from: valpospartan on January 22, 2017, 07:43:38 PMQuote from: valpopal on January 22, 2017, 07:22:13 PMQuote from: wh on January 22, 2017, 01:41:55 PM20 min till game time. Sparse crowd. Maybe 40 students.
Considering the weather was unseasonably warm, the game was on a Sunday afternoon and did not conflict with classes or any other competing events on campus, it is early in the semester when there aren't major papers or midterm and final exams, the team is in first place, the opponent was from Chicago (a home to many students), there was television coverage on the Comcast Sports Network, free shirts were given out, and Alec (a future NBA player in his senior year) was definitely going to break Valpo's greatest personal record held by Bryce Drew, the lack of student turnout was embarrassing.
Well said Pal. As a guy who went to every basketball & football game, when I was in school (not VU), I am appalled and perplexed at the lack of students today.
Student section looked decent to me in the first half, although maybe the kids that painted their chests made it look bigger than it was. I noticed that it really thinned out after halftime though. I bet a lot of students were there just to see AP break the record. Reported attendance was 3881, which was more than I thought it'd be.
Blowout and a NFL Conference Championship game to watch.
The student section was thin, maybe half full, but noisy and appreciated. Still, disappointing for a Sunday afternoon game, with even some TV coverage.
The chair backs seemed a little thin to me too. Football fans?
The mezzanine was impressive!