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Title: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: talksalot on December 23, 2014, 07:42:25 AM
As we look forward to the start of the new year... the guys have a little work to do...  At Harrisonburg, VA on Monday night 12/29, 6pm CENTRAL at the "Convo"

Video Link is showing on the JMU website:

http://jmusports.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball (http://jmusports.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball)


Interesting Roster for the "Dukes"...  count the number of seniors...we're talking serious youth !

http://jmusports.com/roster.aspx?path=mbball (http://jmusports.com/roster.aspx?path=mbball)

They've lost two straight at home (Norfolk and High Point) after beating Ball State in Muncie by 20.

They seem to be a hot-cold team...

Wins over:  Richmond, Campbell, Sacred Heart, Colgate, Longwood and Radford...
Losses to:  Virginia by 28, THE Ohio State by 17, East Carolina by 12, High Point by 9 and Norfolk State by 3 (OT)

They have a 7-man rotation... and have had 7 different game-leading-scorers this season.  they've had 6 different game-high-rebounders, 4 different assist leaders,  7 different steals leaders, and 5 different shot-block leaders.

Same 5 guys have started all 12 games (with one exception)..

Jackson 6-7 sophomore
Dalembert 6-8 sophomore
Curry 6-4  junior
Grays  6-2 junior   (missed one start) ~~ Father is Winston Grays of Cleveland State 86-89)
Satkus  6-8 sophopmore

They've had 4 20-point games this year... from 4 different players.

As of 12/23... RealTimeRpi has us a 4-point dog....67-71...
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: vu72 on December 23, 2014, 07:48:55 AM
After seeing their Ball State score I was a little worried.  Not so much right now.  Vashil has another big game and we win by 12, 72-60.
Merry Christmas!!    :thewave:
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: valpotx on December 23, 2014, 11:39:02 AM
Valpo 74
JMU 64
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: covufan on December 23, 2014, 12:04:00 PM
I hope that we can win by 10 or 12, but think it will be closer.

Valpo 68
JMU 61
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 23, 2014, 10:00:38 PM
yeah...you all know i'm a bit on the optimistic side of things...but I'm always leery when we're on the road, especially at a distracting time of the year...long trip, etc.

"in 1939 Adolf Hitler had the greatest war machine that history has ever known. He had more tanks, more submarines, the most highly trained soldiers and the best organized leadership, and he had his whole country behind him 100 percent.  But in 1945, Berlin stood in ruins and his whole war machine was in shambles for one reason: Hitler couldn`t win on the road."
--Marv Levy

On a side note would have loved to have flown up there for a game as my good friend and daughter's godfather is a priest in H-burg.  But...meh.  long flight for me too.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: a3uge on December 23, 2014, 10:54:31 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 23, 2014, 10:00:38 PM
yeah...you all know i'm a bit on the optimistic side of things...but I'm always leery when we're on the road, especially at a distracting time of the year...long trip, etc.

"in 1939 Adolf Hitler had the greatest war machine that history has ever known. He had more tanks, more submarines, the most highly trained soldiers and the best organized leadership, and he had his whole country behind him 100 percent.  But in 1945, Berlin stood in ruins and his whole war machine was in shambles for one reason: Hitler couldn`t win on the road."
--Marv Levy

On a side note would have loved to have flown up there for a game as my good friend and daughter's godfather is a priest in H-burg.  But...meh.  long flight for me too.

So if they lose, they're basically the Third Reich?
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: hailcrusaders on December 23, 2014, 11:44:24 PM
I vaguely remember Dalembert from last year's matchup. Did we decide if he was related to Samuel Dalembert? Samuel is only 33 so father/son seems unlikely. Cousin? Nephew? Coincidence?
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: talksalot on December 24, 2014, 07:04:51 AM
I see RealTimeRPI has changed the spread to 68-70...we are now only a 2-pt underdog...
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: wh on December 24, 2014, 07:36:03 AM
Quote from: hailcrusaders on December 23, 2014, 11:44:24 PM
I vaguely remember Dalembert from last year's matchup. Did we decide if he was related to Samuel Dalembert? Samuel is only 33 so father/son seems unlikely. Cousin? Nephew? Coincidence?

Personal:
•   Son of Cassandra Derrosiers
•   Half-brother of Samuel Dalembert, who will begin his 13th NBA season in 2014-15 with his sixth different team, the New York Knicks.
•   Samuel Dalembert was a member of the Philadelphia 76ers when the 2010 Haiti Earthquake occurred, prompting him to aid Yohanny and sister Severine to relocate to Philadelphia.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 24, 2014, 07:45:53 AM
Quote from: a3uge on December 23, 2014, 10:54:31 PMSo if they lose, they're basically the Third Reich?
I don't think that's the reich answer
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: usc4valpo on December 24, 2014, 08:51:09 AM
ba dah bum ding!

Merry Christmas to you and your families and all the best in 2015.

Best of Luck to USC in the Holiday Bowl against Nebraska!
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: historyman on December 24, 2014, 02:09:26 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on December 24, 2014, 08:51:09 AMba dah bum ding! Merry Christmas to you and your families and all the best in 2015. Best of Luck to USC in the Holiday Bowl against Nebraska!



Merry Christmas to you, usc4valpo, and all the Valpo fans on this message board!
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: VUfan on December 24, 2014, 02:17:57 PM
A Close one, after a slow start a 70 to 68 win. The win gets Valpo two points in The National Ranking!! ;D  And a chance to go 16 and 0 fro the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: a3uge on December 25, 2014, 01:11:19 PM
I had a dream we got blown out by JM and Peters tore his ACL.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 25, 2014, 01:43:01 PM
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Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: historyman on December 25, 2014, 02:39:32 PM
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Nothing going to happen with my ACL, guys!

I'm planning on scoring 35+ and blow those Dukes away!
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 28, 2014, 09:22:53 PM
OK, guys, time to shake off the holiday lethargy and get back into fighting shape.

QuoteMuch of the key personnel for each team is different from last season's game. James Madison point guard Ron Curry, averaging 10 points and 4.9 assists this season, was sidelined for the game with an injury. Guard Andre Nation missed the game as part of a 15-game suspension before going on to average 15.4 points and 5.3 rebounds; he was named to the Colonial Athletic Association first team this preseason before being suspended for five games. Nation has averaged 9.4 points in seven games since his return.

http://posttrib.chicagotribune.com/sports/31897588-556/college-basketball-adekoya-back-in-mix-for-valparaiso.html#.VKDFILgPAMY (http://posttrib.chicagotribune.com/sports/31897588-556/college-basketball-adekoya-back-in-mix-for-valparaiso.html#.VKDFILgPAMY)

...Andre Nation is an amazing name.  Unfortunately, he seems to get suspended like Bryce takes jackets off.  It wouldn't surprise me if he did something to get suspended between now and the tip.

QuoteLast year Nation was suspended for 15 games for a violation of athletic policy and the JMU student newspaper speculated and asked head coach Matt Brady if it was drug related based on a clause in the the JMU Student-Athlete Handbook which states that a player with a second positive drug test will "be suspended for 50% of the competitions during the championship season of their respective sports."

Brady responded, "I wouldn't want anyone drawing any conclusions from that. But what I will say is that he's immature and he's made some mistakes that aren't helpful."
http://www.midmajormadness.com/2014/10/6/6925999/james-madison-suspends-andre-nation-and-tom-vodanovich (http://www.midmajormadness.com/2014/10/6/6925999/james-madison-suspends-andre-nation-and-tom-vodanovich)

and my PERSONAL favorite line from http://jmusportsblog.com/?p=7109 (http://jmusportsblog.com/?p=7109)
QuoteFor a guy who makes pretty good decisions on the basketball court, Andre Nation seems to make some bad ones off it.

OK i have to quote the rest of it it's good stuff.  Hilarious really.

QuoteNation was suspended indefinitely from the JMU basketball team today. Because of course he was. Along with Nation, sophomore forward Tom Vodanovich was also suspended indefinitely. The two players reportedly got into a fight at Vodanovich's residence Saturday night. The police were called, Vodanovich was hospitalized with facial injuries, and Nation was arrested. The DNR's Nick Sunderland is reporting that Nation was charged with public swearing/intoxication, disorderly conduct, and assault. Vodanovich was charged with public swearing/intoxication, disorderly conduct, and underage possession. To be clear, this was a dumb move by both guys. Nation's suspension will draw way more attention though. That's the price he pays for being the star of the team and for this not being his first off the court issue during his time at JMU.

Depending on whether you count last season's voluntary leave of absence (or however JMU phrased it), this is either Nation's third or fourth suspension. Regardless, it puts him one strike closer to the apparently infinite number required to be permanently kicked off the team. Go ahead and assume all the normal caveats apply here; "this doesn't mean he's a bad person", "college kids do dumb stuff", "we don't know the whole story", etc. The fact is that this is more than a trend. It's a pattern. As a JMU hoops fan, hearing the news that Nation was suspended, is sort of like a football player take his first hit in training camp. It's really just a sign that the season is almost upon us.

We wish Andre well and hope this is the last time we're discussing his off the court issues, but we'd be lying if we said we're confident it will be. If history is any indicator, it's really more a question of "when", not "if" when discussing Nation doing something to jeopardize his status with the basketball team. And that's incredibly sad because he's a heck of a basketball player, who we love to cheer for. Again, we're not saying he's a bad guy. But he's certainly not dependable, and has caused a number of distractions for the program. The only real question now, is how much rope is Brady going to give him?

and we thought we had discipline issues?

tomcreanshakingheadsadly.gif

or just this

(http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/tom-crean-gif.gif)
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: historyman on December 29, 2014, 05:53:56 AM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 28, 2014, 09:22:53 PM...Andre Nation is an amazing name.  Unfortunately, he seems to get suspended like Bryce takes jackets off.  It wouldn't surprise me if he did something to get suspended between now and the tip.

This is the second year in a row Valpo has played James Madison and the day of the return game in Virginia is the first time we have heard of the "colorful" Andre Nation? We are slipping a bit. 

His name sounds like he is his own fan club. "Andre is worshiped by the fans of Andre Nation."

It's always hard to speak at a press conference after a loss but this presser is mucho de-pressing.

2014-15 JMU MBB - Players High Point Post-Game - Dec. 20, 2014 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beEwdEPqBKc#ws)


In the wise words of the great Andre Nation (on left): "(mumble) won 'em the game. They simply just......they just killed us."


Link for live video broadcast of Valpo at James Madison, Monday, December 29, 6:00 pm central time (http://portal.stretchinternet.com/jmu/portal.htm?eventId=179593&streamType=video)
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 29, 2014, 07:42:47 AM
Quote from: historyman on December 29, 2014, 05:53:56 AMthe day of the return game in Virginia is the first time we have heard of the "colorful" Andre Nation?
in our defense, he was suspended for the last one. and he does have 10 hours to get suspended again.

of course I get the feeling the next one won't be a suspension...
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: usc4valpo on December 29, 2014, 08:06:08 AM
OK, I have recovered from the shoutout in San Diego on Saturday night, which was a great game played by the Trojans and the Huskers. Time to get into Crusader winning mode.

Valpo 78
JMU 74

Go Valpo and Fight On!
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: FWalum on December 29, 2014, 08:44:53 AM
I'm glad that I haven't seen us make players come out for a press conferences by themselves without a coach. That was awfully hard to watch.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: Valpofan00 on December 29, 2014, 10:47:31 AM
Will there be video for this game??
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: humbleopinion on December 29, 2014, 10:58:02 AM
A link was posted at the beginning of this thread.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: crusadermoe on December 29, 2014, 10:58:26 AM
Vegas has us favored by 2.  word is that it is being played as heavily as bama vs buckeyes.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: historyman on December 29, 2014, 12:27:27 PM
Quote from: Valpofan00 on December 29, 2014, 10:47:31 AMWill there be video for this game??
Quote from: humbleopinion on December 29, 2014, 10:58:02 AMA link was posted at the beginning of this thread.



Look at the post 4 above your original post. I made it larger so it would be harder to miss. This is the actual website for the game broadcast.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: hailcrusaders on December 29, 2014, 02:39:53 PM
So uhh, dumb question but is Nation playing this time around or no?
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 29, 2014, 02:55:29 PM
If he manages to get to the game and dress without
a) smoking up
b) punching a teammate
c) quitting b-ball to start an overdue rap career without changing his name, making him the only known rapper in history to do so
d) all of the above
then yes.  we are going to see the Nation-als.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 29, 2014, 06:34:30 PM
We are pretty good, you guys.

11 straight trips without a basket.  That's hard to do, especially to the home team. 

Up 27-12 1/3 through the game.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 29, 2014, 06:47:48 PM
At this rate it will be 80-32.

So.

It's nice to see someone else turn the ball over more than we; yet, even without our 12-0 lead in "pts off TO" we'd ... still be up 28-16.

So.

RESTRAIN YOUR UNBRIDLED OPTIMISM FOR AN UNDEFEATED HL SEASON

...BUT GOOD LUCK DOING SO WHEN WE UNCORK PERFORMANCES LIKE THIS ROUTINELY

EDIT:  also
http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=1024.msg50855#msg50855 (http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=1024.msg50855#msg50855)
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: hailcrusaders on December 29, 2014, 06:55:08 PM
What was the Ickow quote from a few weeks ago? "This is the team we saw in Nashville"? Maybe he can help us out once he's done.

I only have video, and it's not crashing but rather jumpy.

I know it's been said before but how come we never play this way against the Missouris, New Mexicos, and Nebraskas of our schedule?
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 29, 2014, 07:10:15 PM
wow. JMU comes out swinging and scores 9 pts in the first 4 minutes of the 2nd half.

Which, ok, yeah, is pace for 90 for a game.

...except that we got 12 and we're even further ahead.

At some point you have to pool all the good performances (this game, CMU tourney, entire Nashville tourney) and say, this isn't luck or aberration, but merely playing to potential, and doing so routinely.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: truth219 on December 29, 2014, 07:22:58 PM
David chadwick....stud...I'll eat my own words
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: HC on December 29, 2014, 07:43:29 PM
Video feed wasn't so hot for me, but I did like the score. Looking forward to league play finally starting. Hooray for meaningful games!
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 29, 2014, 07:47:27 PM
Also worth noting:  Nick Davidson with 8 pts in 1:38 of game time.

That's 195.1 pts/40 min.  #morePT

shades of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSWE_Wbu80o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSWE_Wbu80o)
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: bbtds on December 29, 2014, 07:57:41 PM
Wonder how that JMU press conference will go. Ouch!


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Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: govalpogo on December 29, 2014, 07:59:18 PM
Well Done lads!  13-2 Non Conf. season!  Let's see something similar in the HL!
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: valpotx on December 29, 2014, 08:01:28 PM
What an absolutely dominant defensive performance throughout the game.  JMU missed some open 3s, but everything in the paint or out to 16-18 feet was highly contested by VU.  I will keep beating this dead horse, and say to the 4-5 of you on here that were down on Vashil after 3-4 games this season, VASHIL SAYS EAT IT!  He has learned solid body positioning, is doing the slip screen to score points, setting good picks, and other teams are very afraid to shoot when he is around.

Another great game in a 79-52 win!

Almost forgot to mention that it was fortuitous for someone to mention on another thread that it would be great to have a C that could spread the floor through 3 pt. shooting.  Chadwick shows us that if he can get 8-10 minutes per game in order to spell Peters and/or Vashil, that he can bring another component to the team.  Since he has been seeing more floor time over the last 3 games, he appears much more confident when he is in the game.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: bbtds on December 29, 2014, 08:05:06 PM
Quote from: HC on December 29, 2014, 07:43:29 PM
Video feed wasn't so hot for me, but I did like the score.

Quote from: hailcrusaders on December 29, 2014, 06:55:08 PMI only have video, and it's not crashing but rather jumpy.

My video was freezing some also. I thought it might have been my laptop but now that I have read your comments I realize it had something to do with Madizone technical problems. 
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: valpotx on December 29, 2014, 08:16:14 PM
Also, how about that put-back dunk by Vashil?  He wouldn't have been able to do something as coordinated as that last season, in catching the ball at your chest in mid-air and dunking, all in one motion.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: bbtds on December 29, 2014, 08:17:05 PM
Quote from: valpotx on December 29, 2014, 08:01:28 PMChadwick shows us that if he can get 8-10 minutes per game in order to spell Peters and/or Vashil, that he can bring another component to the team.  Since he has been seeing more floor time over the last 3 games, he appears much more confident when he is in the game.

I know David would never wish bad things on anyone but if Jubril went out with an injury or caught more Andre Nation disease Chadwick would be happy to step in and grab his playing time.


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Oh darn! The president needs some help with the healthcare.gov website. That is a shame.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: valpopal on December 29, 2014, 08:19:04 PM
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Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: valpopal on December 29, 2014, 08:33:26 PM
Didn't get to listen to the game broadcast tonight, so I'm not sure if it was mentioned that Alec Peters played after learning before the game that his grandfather had passed away. Condolences to Alec and his family.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: valpotx on December 29, 2014, 08:39:54 PM
Yeah, I wouldn't want to see anything happen to Jubril, as he is a tough defender against guys much larger than himself.  Jubril is obviously not a scorer, but is still very valuable to our team.  Even when he missed that wide open reverse layup, you still notice his presence on D, as he doesn't let his lack of offense affect his defensive intensity.  However, if Chadwick can be a solid #9 guy for us (6-8 minutes?), that helps us out quite a bit in regards to fouls and rest.

Didn't hear that part about Peters.  He is an absolute competitor.  I rarely mention him in my comments because you have come to expect the type of performances he has put in for us after 1.5 seasons.  When he made the comment as a HS Senior that he looked forward to replacing Rowdy's production, who knew that he would surpass it in his SO year??  You can see that he has worked on his game quite a bit.  He used to be a spot-up guy last season, which is how teams took him out of games, much like teams did against Rowdy FR/SO year.  Well, now he is quick enough to dribble drive past his defender, he can post-up, has some fancy moves around the basket, etc.  It is like poetry in motion with this guy.  I hate to say it because I absolutely love what Rowdy brought to Valpo, but Peters is going to be much better than him, by the end of this season...
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: wh on December 29, 2014, 08:57:17 PM
Compliments also to KC and TW for excellent guard play on both ends. Also, EVN is really starting to get his game together.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: justducky on December 29, 2014, 09:03:36 PM
Quote from: bbtds on December 29, 2014, 08:05:06 PM
Quote from: HC on December 29, 2014, 07:43:29 PM
Video feed wasn't so hot for me, but I did like the score.

Quote from: hailcrusaders on December 29, 2014, 06:55:08 PMI only have video, and it's not crashing but rather jumpy.

My video was freezing some also. I thought it might have been my laptop but now that I have read your comments I realize it had something to do with Madizone technical problems. 

I have always had problems but tonight my reception was flawless! Comcast was here today working on some different issues and I think they may have inadvertently fixed this!  :o  :thumbsup:  :clap: :dance:
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: wh on December 29, 2014, 09:55:26 PM
Quote from: wh on December 29, 2014, 08:57:17 PM
Compliments also to KC and TW for excellent guard play on both ends. Also, EVN is really starting to get his game together.

Just noticed from the box score that Darien had a whooping 7 assists, plus 5 rebounds, 2 steals and a block. He didn't shoot the ball particularly well, but these other numbers are killer. Another very talented player.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: SanityLost17 on December 29, 2014, 10:09:34 PM
I was very impressed with Davidson (with the exception of 1 major defensive lapse).  It is not easy to shoot the ball after sitting on the bench all day, and this is not the 1st time Davidson has come in cold and drained a few 3 pointers. 

How good is he?  Does he deserve 3-4 minutes a game with a couple of set plays for him?  Is James Madison just that bad or is Davidson just on a REALLY good team where a very solid shooter can't get any playing time?   
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: FWalum on December 29, 2014, 11:19:43 PM
Quote from: bbtds on December 29, 2014, 08:05:06 PM
Quote from: HC on December 29, 2014, 07:43:29 PM
Video feed wasn't so hot for me, but I did like the score.

Quote from: hailcrusaders on December 29, 2014, 06:55:08 PMI only have video, and it's not crashing but rather jumpy.

My video was freezing some also. I thought it might have been my laptop but now that I have read your comments I realize it had something to do with Madizone technical problems. 

Feed was great for me. Very good resolution and no problems what so ever.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: FWalum on December 29, 2014, 11:26:25 PM
Did anyone see the video of Chadwick's fall?  Did not look good to me.  I would be surprised if we see David during the next few games at all.  I hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: historyman on December 29, 2014, 11:36:26 PM
Only 6 turnovers and 11 for 14 on FT's is an excellent improvement in areas where the team had sometimes done poorly in the past. Bravo!!
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: historyman on December 29, 2014, 11:45:15 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 29, 2014, 07:42:47 AM
Quote from: historyman on December 29, 2014, 05:53:56 AMthe day of the return game in Virginia is the first time we have heard of the "colorful" Andre Nation?
in our defense, he was suspended for the last one. and he does have 10 hours to get suspended again. of course I get the feeling the next one won't be a suspension...

Andre and his Nation would have probably been better off if he had sat out.

24 minutes, 2 of 6 shooting, 0 for 2 from three, 1 of 2 FTs, 3 rb, 2 asst, 5 points.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: wh on December 30, 2014, 12:00:02 AM
2014-15 JMU MBB - Players Valparaiso Post-Game - Dec. 29, 2014 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3cYtg_p_XA#ws)
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: valpotx on December 30, 2014, 12:13:47 AM
Hats off to the guy on the right for reflecting more on the game than the other two JMU players shown.  After you get your teeth stomped in, I imagine that it is very hard as a college kid to sit there and have to answer questions about why you didn't keep the game closer or win.  JMU didn't play poorly, but rather their shots just didn't fall, and as they mentioned, our D was on for most of the game.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: classof2014 on December 30, 2014, 12:25:39 AM
Was not expecting a Non-con like this one. 13-2 and many of our wins were in convincing fashion.

KC- is starting to look like the "as-advertised" player as he plays lights-out D, able to score when need-be, and is able to run the offense like a well oiled machine.

Vashil - is well on his way to a historic season, already has 49 blocks on the season, good chance to top 100 against smaller competition in the HL. Vashil will record a triple-double this season. 12 points, 10 boards, 10 blocks. He has been absolutely dominant in the paint and takes a whole dimension away from another team. In the HL that doesn't have very big bigs this could be a historic season for the Vashil

Alec - Hard to believe he's only a sophomore! Averaging 19 already, it's either he or Sykes who will bring home PoY

If I wanted to I can go, on-and-on about the stellar play from everyone on the team. Best ever start to a Valpo season. We match up very well against the HL opponents. I am very excited to see what this team can do the rest of the way.

Crazy, that just about everyone will be back next season. We will lose the talents of Vashil but we bring in one of the best HS in state, who is 7+ feet tall, and has put 30+ performances up multiple times this season. So I guess we go from the Jammin Jamaican to the Dunking Dutchmen 2.0

This Valpo can be VERY special in the next year or so... Not to mention our Lexus will be out of the shop next season
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: valpopal on December 30, 2014, 10:15:08 AM
This win helped the Crusaders in the ratings. After the victory, Valparaiso moved from 98 to 77 in the Pomeroy ratings, and the team rose from 78 to 59 in the Sagarin ratings. ESPN's Daily RPI has Valpo rising from 80 to 61.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: Valpo89 on December 30, 2014, 10:22:59 AM
I loved Andre Nation's one-word contribution to that press conference.
I wonder if any of the reporters used it in their game stories.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: wh on December 30, 2014, 10:33:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzR87ASmVG4#t=183 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzR87ASmVG4#t=183)
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 30, 2014, 10:39:04 AM
Quote from: Valpo89 on December 30, 2014, 10:22:59 AMI wonder if any of the reporters used it in their game stories.
"No."
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: historyman on December 31, 2014, 02:33:54 PM
Quote from: historyman on December 25, 2014, 02:39:32 PM(http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/valpotorch.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/8/2d/82d4f60c-7cac-11e4-905a-bba9d91f1642/5481f9c699000.image.jpg?resize=300%2C429)

Nothing going to happen with my ACL, guys! I'm planning on scoring 35+ and blow those Dukes away!

What did I tell you. I didn't score 35 because there wasn't a need to score that many. Chadwick and Davidson took up the slack. We sure did blow those Dukes away.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 31, 2014, 05:34:29 PM
weird...peters + chadwick + davidson = 35...
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: StlVUFan on January 01, 2015, 12:58:31 PM
Quote from: hailcrusaders on December 29, 2014, 06:55:08 PMI know it's been said before but how come we never play this way against the Missouris, New Mexicos, and Nebraskas of our schedule?
Because those teams are better.

I had trouble with the video too, had to refresh numerous times.  The upside was that there were short stretches when the video was perfectly synced to Todd's play-by-play.

The play-by-play announcer didn't seem all that partisan to JMU, kinda strange.  I rewatched the first half and there were times when there was more silence than talk from him.

I don't believe Todd mentioned once about Alec's grandfather, so that story was a surprise to me too.

I thought we got a lot of lucky bounces, and indeed the main observation I have of their play is that they just couldn't hit shots for most of the game.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: Kyle321n on January 15, 2015, 12:34:24 PM
Kind of ironic that we wondered if he would get suspended days before our game? I guess it was a few weeks after instead.
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Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: humbleopinion on January 15, 2015, 01:13:11 PM
Nation off the team.  JMU does not fare as well for the rest of the season, our win is less impressive.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on January 15, 2015, 01:20:07 PM
eh, people thought the Pistons would go further downhill after they cut Josh Smith.  Sooooo...
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: wh on January 15, 2015, 01:45:30 PM
Coach Matt Brady made the decision public via press release.

"We appreciate Andre's efforts with our program over the past three years," Brady said. "Working with Andre this year, it has become apparent that he no longer fits within our program and the vision we have for the future. I care about Andre and his well-being and wish him all the best in the future. I'm looking forward to the remainder of the season with my team. As such, I will not comment further on Andre."


A lost soul that averaged 15 PPG last year.  Greg "Father Flanagan" Kampe to the rescue!
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: Grizz on January 15, 2015, 02:19:00 PM
I guess you guys are right, we at Oakland don't have a a like school in this league. We have been in the league 3 se3mesters and no one has even been close to us.
-- The 2014 Fall Academic Honor Roll is comprised of 808 student-athletes representing all nine Horizon League institutions and each of the 19 League sponsored sports. As an affiliate member, Belmont distinguished student-athletes only in the sport of men's soccer.

Candidates for the Honor Roll must meet three criteria in order to qualify: 1) participation in at least one of the League's 19 sports during the most recent (or current) season; 2) completion of three semesters (or four quarters, where applicable) as a full-time student at the same member institution; and 3) a cumulative grade-point average of at least 3.20 (on a 4.00 scale).

For the third-straight semester, Oakland paced the conference with 125 student-athletes meeting Honor Roll criteria followed closely by Valparaiso with 115. Milwaukee improved its numbers once again by placing 112 student-athletes, while Wright State also increased by positioning 84 to receive accolades. Detroit honors 80 student-athletes as Green Bay and Youngstown State tally 75, respectively. Cleveland State contributed 67 and UIC rounding out the conference accumulating 63 student-athletes on the Honor Roll.

With 108 student-athletes garnering accolades, women's soccer led all Horizon League sports on the Fall Honor Roll. Women's track and field/cross country also hit triple digits with 100, while men's soccer grew its numbers by placing 80 to lead all male sports. Contributing 76, men's track and field/cross country was the fourth-highest sport represented and women's swimming and diving was close behind with 64. Baseball honored 57 student-athletes, with softball (57) and men's swimming and diving (50) next on the list. Contributing at least 30 student-athletes, women's tennis (38) and women's basketball (34) closed out the female sports. Men's golf (28), men's tennis (22) and men's basketball (13) rounded out the League sponsored sports.

Horizon League 2014 Fall Academic Honor Roll Complete List

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Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: SanityLost17 on January 15, 2015, 04:46:02 PM
Quote from: Grizz on January 15, 2015, 02:19:00 PM
I guess you guys are right, we at Oakland don't have a a like school in this league. We have been in the league 3 se3mesters and no one has even been close to us.
-- The 2014 Fall Academic Honor Roll is comprised of 808 student-athletes representing all nine Horizon League institutions and each of the 19 League sponsored sports. As an affiliate member, Belmont distinguished student-athletes only in the sport of men's soccer.

Candidates for the Honor Roll must meet three criteria in order to qualify: 1) participation in at least one of the League's 19 sports during the most recent (or current) season; 2) completion of three semesters (or four quarters, where applicable) as a full-time student at the same member institution; and 3) a cumulative grade-point average of at least 3.20 (on a 4.00 scale).

For the third-straight semester, Oakland paced the conference with 125 student-athletes meeting Honor Roll criteria followed closely by Valparaiso with 115. Milwaukee improved its numbers once again by placing 112 student-athletes, while Wright State also increased by positioning 84 to receive accolades. Detroit honors 80 student-athletes as Green Bay and Youngstown State tally 75, respectively. Cleveland State contributed 67 and UIC rounding out the conference accumulating 63 student-athletes on the Honor Roll.

With 108 student-athletes garnering accolades, women's soccer led all Horizon League sports on the Fall Honor Roll. Women's track and field/cross country also hit triple digits with 100, while men's soccer grew its numbers by placing 80 to lead all male sports. Contributing 76, men's track and field/cross country was the fourth-highest sport represented and women's swimming and diving was close behind with 64. Baseball honored 57 student-athletes, with softball (57) and men's swimming and diving (50) next on the list. Contributing at least 30 student-athletes, women's tennis (38) and women's basketball (34) closed out the female sports. Men's golf (28), men's tennis (22) and men's basketball (13) rounded out the League sponsored sports.

Horizon League 2014 Fall Academic Honor Roll Complete List

Tags: Cleveland State - Academics · Detroit - Academics · Green Bay - Academics · Horizon League - Academics · Milwaukee - Academics · Oakland - Academics · UIC - Academics · Valparaiso - Academics · Wright State - Academics · Youngstown State - Academics

I received straight A's during my 1 year of Junior College.   :)   

Just kidding Grizz.  I actually have no problems with your school, but I could not resist. 

I have a suggestion that everybody on all message boards read this book. 
http://www.amazon.com/The-Believing-Brain-Conspiracies-How-Construct/dp/1250008808 (http://www.amazon.com/The-Believing-Brain-Conspiracies-How-Construct/dp/1250008808) 
Perhaps once we know why fans from different schools see things so differently, we can all get along a lot better!    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: bbtds on January 15, 2015, 09:18:53 PM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on January 15, 2015, 04:46:02 PMJust kidding Grizz.  I actually have no problems with your school,

I agree with this. I never agreed that Valpo should be wanting different kinds of schools in the HL. Oakland is a fine conference opponent and, I believe, a great addition to the HL and should be congratulated for having the most athletes on the honor roll.

He isn't perfect that's for sure but Greg Kampe is one of the better coaches in the HL. I've never understood why Valpo should only support private schools joining the conference. I think Oakland is very similar to Valpo in it's mission. The only difference being where the funding comes from.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: valpotx on January 16, 2015, 02:11:02 AM
As stated in another thread, Valpo wouldn't let a kid stay or transfer to their team, that beat the crap out of a woman...I respected Oakland's athletes before, having played against them in baseball, but lost most of my respect for their program once I saw that UT transfer.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: vu72 on January 16, 2015, 06:58:40 AM
Quote from: bbtds on January 15, 2015, 09:18:53 PM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on January 15, 2015, 04:46:02 PMJust kidding Grizz.  I actually have no problems with your school,

I agree with this. I never agreed that Valpo should be wanting different kinds of schools in the HL. Oakland is a fine conference opponent and, I believe, a great addition to the HL and should be congratulated for having the most athletes on the honor roll.

He isn't perfect that's for sure but Greg Kampe is one of the better coaches in the HL. I've never understood why Valpo should only support private schools joining the conference. I think Oakland is very similar to Valpo in it's mission. The only difference being where the funding comes from.


The whole topic of the makeup of the league membership is an interesting one.  Clearly there are examples of like schools sticking together--the Ivy League, the Big East (well, except Butler!!)  One issue that might be a consideration is an academically even playing field.  By this I mean that one school (say a big state school) might accepts students who are great athletes but are majoring in basket weaving.  On the other hand, a private school may not even accept said student for obvious reasons. I don't really think there is a way to "police" this and is just the added challenge facing a coach from a private school.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: talksalot on January 16, 2015, 07:34:04 PM
Watched the JMU - Drexel game from Philly last night... it was 17-12... AT THE HALF ! With the Dukes pulling it out 54-35 at the end... JMU goes to 10-8... the hapless dragons fall to 3-13... sadly slipped into his cave...as green scales fell like rain.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: historyman on January 16, 2015, 11:17:35 PM
Quote from: talksalot on January 16, 2015, 07:34:04 PMWatched the JMU - Drexel game from Philly last night... it was 17-12... AT THE HALF ! With the Dukes pulling it out 54-35 at the end... JMU goes to 10-8... the hapless dragons fall to 3-13... sadly slipped into his cave...as green scales fell like rain.

I suppose Drexel were really dragon their @ss#s off the court after that game. They certainly weren't ready to put up their dukes to fight.  :P
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: valpotx on January 17, 2015, 01:42:31 AM
Interesting to see how far Drexel has fallen since a few seasons ago when they were the mid-major talk of the world heading in the tourney.  Just goes to show you how hard it is for a mid-major program to have sustained success like we have been fortunate to have, absent one bad year of unfortunate transfers out.

As long as Drexel keeps producing fantastic interns for my NJ office, I am ok with them being bad in basketball :).  Btw, their campus is a mess within a mess of a city in Philly.  Whatever Engineer was responsible for the design of their streets needs to give back the money that was stolen from that city.  I don't like the feel of in-city schools, I guess, very much preferring the rural feel of a Valpo where the campus can be better laid out.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: historyman on January 17, 2015, 05:09:26 PM
Quote from: valpotx on January 17, 2015, 01:42:31 AMBtw, their campus is a mess within a mess of a city in Philly.  Whatever Engineer was responsible for the design of their streets needs to give back the money that was stolen from that city.  I don't like the feel of in-city schools, I guess, very much preferring the rural feel of a Valpo where the campus can be better laid out.

The blame I believe goes directly to William Penn. He laid out Philadelphia after his father received the grant of land that is Pennsylvania from the king in repayment of a debt owed to the Penns by the country of England. It was a dictatorial position in the new colony for William Penn. He dictated everything about the colony because his family actually owned all the land. The biggest group that moved to the new colony were the Quakers and they had to agree to William Penn's decrees.
Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: a3uge on January 18, 2015, 08:05:04 AM
Quote from: historyman on January 17, 2015, 05:09:26 PM
Quote from: valpotx on January 17, 2015, 01:42:31 AMBtw, their campus is a mess within a mess of a city in Philly.  Whatever Engineer was responsible for the design of their streets needs to give back the money that was stolen from that city.  I don't like the feel of in-city schools, I guess, very much preferring the rural feel of a Valpo where the campus can be better laid out.

The blame I believe goes directly to William Penn. He laid out Philadelphia after his father received the grant of land that is Pennsylvania from the king in repayment of a debt owed to the Penns by the country of England. It was a dictatorial position in the new colony for William Penn. He dictated everything about the colony because his family actually owned all the land. The biggest group that moved to the new colony were the Quakers and they had to agree to William Penn's decrees.

Okay, good history lesson, but who's responsible for the horrible intersection off 30 to get into the Walmart at Valpo?

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Title: Re: Valpo @ James Madison 12/29/14
Post by: historyman on January 18, 2015, 08:58:52 AM
Quote from: a3uge on January 18, 2015, 08:05:04 AM
Quote from: historyman on January 17, 2015, 05:09:26 PM
Quote from: valpotx on January 17, 2015, 01:42:31 AMBtw, their campus is a mess within a mess of a city in Philly.  Whatever Engineer was responsible for the design of their streets needs to give back the money that was stolen from that city.  I don't like the feel of in-city schools, I guess, very much preferring the rural feel of a Valpo where the campus can be better laid out.
The blame, I believe, goes directly to William Penn. He laid out Philadelphia after his father received the grant of land that is Pennsylvania from the king in repayment of a debt owed to the Penns by the country of England. It was a dictatorial position in the new colony for William Penn. He dictated everything about the colony because his family actually owned all the land. The biggest group that moved to the new colony were the Quakers and they had to agree to William Penn's decrees.
Okay, good history lesson, but who's responsible for the horrible intersection off 30 to get into the Walmart at Valpo? 

The blame, I believe, goes directly to Admiral David Porter........................just joking!   :P