Time to move ahead in the schedule by adding more wins, starting with Milwaukee on Monday.
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Valpo by 17, 69-52.
The first of 9 consecutive wins to finish 14-2 (27-4).
Dead serious prediction...
What is perhaps most impressive to me about this team is that they seem to learn something from every game and then have applied it in future circumstances. We need to assert our will in this game so that Milwaukee is demoralized and has no glimmer of hope that they could possibly defeat us.
Quote from: wh on January 24, 2015, 03:07:33 PM
The first of 9 consecutive wins to finish 14-2 (27-4).
Dead serious prediction...
the confluence of context and seeing your avatar lead me to read that as "conservative wins".
got you pegged bro ;)
27-4 would be great. Then we'd be getting down to BIDNESS...
Valpo 76
Milwaukee 60
Valpo 74
Milwaukee 66
My prediction: The only game we lose is at Cleveland State. I think we will win the conference tourney.
Quote from: wh on January 24, 2015, 03:07:33 PM
The first of 9 consecutive wins to finish 14-2 (27-4).
Dead serious prediction...
i think this will happen as well.
We control at least a tie for conference champ. We need to come out and show we mean business, or Bidness as LAA said.
We need to slow down. One game at a time. :-X
It's the Crusader's Birthday Party ! Can't lose!
and BTW, this is the sorta-official start of a slight change to the game-management schedule... As part of the new HL agreement with ESPN3, we will be joining the other teams in conference to have consistent timing.
Game tips will be at x:02 not x:05 after the hour.
We will no longer have Lights Out for player introductions (Not possible in the ARC to bring the lights up in a timely manner)
We will have the National Anthem BEFORE Player introductions, that will be introduced at :00 on the pre-game warm-up clock
Games will start after the starters for the home team are introduced.
Quote from: talksalot on January 24, 2015, 08:42:25 PM
It's the Crusader's Birthday Party ! Can't lose!
and BTW, this is the sorta-official start of a slight change to the game-management schedule... As part of the new HL agreement with ESPN3, we will be joining the other teams in conference to have consistent timing.
Game tips will be at x:02 not x:05 after the hour.
We will no longer have Lights Out for player introductions (Not possible in the ARC to bring the lights up in a timely manner)
We will have the National Anthem BEFORE Player introductions, that will be introduced at :00 on the pre-game warm-up clock
Games will start after the starters for the home team are introduced.
So is there an official announcement coming? I presume the reason we have partnered with ESPN3 and not kept the Horizon League broadcasts is for financial reasons. Will it be made public?
Quote from: talksalot on January 24, 2015, 08:42:25 PMWe will no longer have Lights Out for player introductions (Not possible in the ARC to bring the lights up in a timely manner)
I don't like this, but ...
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We will have the National Anthem BEFORE Player introductions, that will be introduced at :00 on the pre-game warm-up clock
I *do* like this. The trade-off seems worth it. At the risk of irreverence, I've always found the anthem in between player intros and opening tip to be kind of a mood killer. Being able to turn out the lights really adds to the effect, but that's icing on the cake by comparison.
Quote from: talksalot on January 24, 2015, 08:42:25 PMWe will no longer have Lights Out for player introductions (Not possible in the ARC to bring the lights up in a timely manner)
A big thank you from all the photographers. :thumbsup: Actually, following darkness for intros the lights usually do not reach full strength until after the first media timeout with about 15:00 left in the opening half. I sometimes wonder if that influences early game shooting of basketballs the way it influences shooting photos.
I'm not sure our friends on the Milwaukee board even know we have a game on Monday. The only thread that generates any interest over there is about the future of their arena, which seems to go on endlessly. IMO the APR tournament exclusion penalty is leaving a lot of innocent victims in its wake, not the least of whom are loyal fans of the program who are left with little to hope for. On Monday we'll be watching a group of Milwaukee players who did nothing to cause the penalty they're being subjected to playing their hearts out like every other team, yet unlike everyone else having nothing to look forward to as the regular season winds down except cleaning out their lockers.
I'm certainly a proponent of academic accountability, but the longer I've watched this season unfold and observed the effect this is having, the more ridiculous it seems. It would be like my older brother committing a crime and me going to jail for it because, after all, we're in the same family. In fact, the more time I spend on this post the more I detest everything about NCAA compliance and control. No, I don't have a better idea, but give me and a few of my friends the same number of days, weeks and months these great thinkers took to develop the current system and I'll guarantee we'll come up with something far more equitable.
Editorial over - thanks for listening. ;)
Quote from: wh on January 24, 2015, 11:25:11 PMIMO the APR tournament exclusion penalty is leaving a lot of innocent victims in its wake, not the least of whom are loyal fans of the program who are left with little to hope for.
There is a school of thought that I'm partial to that says, "Yes, and that's UWM's fault, not the NCAA."
Spread: Valpo -15 open; -13.5 current
The only real solutions I have for the APR issues, since postseason bans don't mentally and emotionally affect the players who didn't go to class, especially if they already graduated, left school, or declared entry into the NBA draft, but do affect the guys they left behind, is to a) fire the coaching staff for not doing their job to make sure the players are going to class, and b) suspending/firing the academic compliance coordinator that failed to make sure the players were keeping up on their "contract" to attend and pass classes, based on the scholarship agreement they made with the school they attended. Banning the team from postseason play pisses off the conference because that team can't play in the tournament, and can affect seeding for the tournament, plus deters recruits from looking at the school because they might not be able to play in the postseason that first year, even though they weren't a part of the cause.
We take out our frustrations in this game.
We win 89 to 63.
I just hope the Milwaukee team that beat WSU 67-41 6 days ago doesn't show up...
Quote from: wh on January 26, 2015, 08:46:34 AM
I just hope the Milwaukee team that beat WSU 67-41 6 days ago doesn't show up...
I think our defense will have something to say about this. If that team shows up in Milwaukee, we could be in trouble.
I think we'll come out and play well in front of the home crowd.
Valpo 74
APR Challenged team from Milwaukee 58
Quote from: wh on January 26, 2015, 08:46:34 AM
I just hope the Milwaukee team that beat WSU 67-41 6 days ago doesn't show up...
To put your mind at ease, Milwaukee has frankly been pitiful on the road. They are averaging just 61 ppg and giving up 78 a game. And we are giving up just 57 ppg at home and scoring 74 per game. This game doesn't worry me too much.
Valpo 75
Milwaukee 58
We should win this handily but if Vashil gets into early foul trouble then our old friend Matt Tiby will say "how do you do?" to an outmatched Jubril.
Valpo 70 Milwaukee 52
Love the score thus far (19-3) but I can't get espn 3 to work for anything!
exactly one-quarter of the way through we are on pace for an 84-20 final.
i'd be ok with that.
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still won't make up for last march.
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There's no way Jeter is kept on after this year, right?
Alec had a look at a three to tie it there with about a minute left in the half. Couldn't get it to go.
Admittedly, when you spend minutes on the bench, you shouldn't be _too_ surprised if the other team outscores you.
(Is it too much to ask for live stats to have game minutes in the box score?)
What heck is going on with our defense???? Why can't seem to stop them? Oh wait, I got the scores reversed...
We took Milwaukee behind the woodshed that half.
I have to complain about something.... Tiby kills us every time we play them.
He was on a 6-0 run there for a couple of minutes... (Tiby vs. Valpo)
Whomever is in charge of the TV/streaming production needs to be told to STOP SWITCHING TO THE UNDER THE BASKET CAMERA. Would have loved to see the Vashil alley-oop there, but instead we got a lob and then Vashil's midsection. Every time the ball goes down low the camera switches and misses significant action.
Agreed Ive always hated the under basket camera. It needs to be taken out.
I don't know if anyone is watching, but that sequence where they called a traveling on Walker with 3:30 left is a microcosm of reffing the Horizon.
Quote from: a3uge on January 26, 2015, 08:40:02 PM
I don't know if anyone is watching, but that sequence where they called a traveling on Walker with 3:30 left is a microcosm of reffing the Horizon.
I saw it, thought he was mugged.
Quote from: a3uge on January 26, 2015, 08:40:02 PM
I don't know if anyone is watching, but that sequence where they called a traveling on Walker with 3:30 left is a microcosm of reffing the Horizon.
Actually Todd and Dave thought the game was well officiated.
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 26, 2015, 08:50:25 PM
Quote from: a3uge on January 26, 2015, 08:40:02 PM
I don't know if anyone is watching, but that sequence where they called a traveling on Walker with 3:30 left is a microcosm of reffing the Horizon.
I saw it, thought he was mugged.
For one, the guy on oakland stepped out of bounds, then Walker was clearly fouled... but traveling?
Oh well. Great game.
What happened to UWM? I can't believe they won the conference tourney last year. You can't really even blame it on the APR suspension. I know Ariens redshirted, but man, recruiting has been terrible. They'll lose McWhorter next year (leading scoring, assists, rebounds) too. Maybe tonight was just a really, really off night for everyone, but absolutely everyone looked dreadful.
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Quote from: oklahomamick on January 26, 2015, 08:50:25 PM
Quote from: a3uge on January 26, 2015, 08:40:02 PM
I don't know if anyone is watching, but that sequence where they called a traveling on Walker with 3:30 left is a microcosm of reffing the Horizon.
I saw it, thought he was mugged.
For one, the guy on oakland stepped out of bounds, then Walker was clearly fouled... but traveling?
Oh well. Great game.
What happened to UWM? I can't believe they won the conference tourney last year. You can't really even blame it on the APR suspension. I know Ariens redshirted, but man, recruiting has been terrible. They'll lose McWhorter next year (leading scoring, assists, rebounds) too. Maybe tonight was just a really, really off night for everyone, but absolutely everyone looked dreadful.
Except maybe Tiby
Quote from: FWalum on January 26, 2015, 09:09:46 PM
Quote from: a3uge on January 26, 2015, 09:02:12 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 26, 2015, 08:50:25 PM
Quote from: a3uge on January 26, 2015, 08:40:02 PM
I don't know if anyone is watching, but that sequence where they called a traveling on Walker with 3:30 left is a microcosm of reffing the Horizon.
I saw it, thought he was mugged.
For one, the guy on oakland stepped out of bounds, then Walker was clearly fouled... but traveling?
Oh well. Great game.
What happened to UWM? I can't believe they won the conference tourney last year. You can't really even blame it on the APR suspension. I know Ariens redshirted, but man, recruiting has been terrible. They'll lose McWhorter next year (leading scoring, assists, rebounds) too. Maybe tonight was just a really, really off night for everyone, but absolutely everyone looked dreadful.
Except maybe Tiby
Did Tiby even play the second half? I completely forgot about him.
Quote from: a3uge on January 26, 2015, 09:10:54 PMDid Tiby even play the second half? I completely forgot about him.
15 points, 5 rebounds. 6 and 3 in the second half.
Really surprised at this one. Other than the top four teams the HL seems to have a bunch of weak sisters who lack energy and intensity for the game. After the first five minutes it seemed like Milwaukee just folded their tent and went home. Thought Jeter would get more out of his guys.
Tiby had decent numbers, but I thought Darien Walker played some very good defense on him. Interesting move matching up Peters with one of the UWM guards and Walker on Tiby, but a very good move by our coaching staff.
Anybody have any guesses on how playing time will pan out if/when Carter gets fully healthy again? I am guessing he will start back slowly. Will Nickerson remain as the backup PG or has Max done enough to earn 10 minutes in order for Nickerson to play more minutes at the 2 and 3 positions?
Or does Bryce prefer the 8 man rotation over the 9 man?
Quote from: FWalum on January 26, 2015, 09:33:19 PM
Really surprised at this one. Other than the top four teams the HL seems to have a bunch of weak sisters who lack energy and intensity for the game. After the first five minutes it seemed like Milwaukee just folded their tent and went home. Thought Jeter would get more out of his guys.
who are the top 4?
What I liked best about this game, besides the fact that PantherU probably ate more hotdogs in the first half then his team had buckets, was that Valpo didn't let up nor did they play down an inferior opponent.
Been out of town on business. Missed the game. Disappointed and surprised at the sparse crowd. When will KC be back? Will 13-3 win this league? If so, can VU get there? It would mean a 7-1 finish. Can we beat Oakland? Can we beat CSU twice? Can we repay GB?
That's all the questions I have. Thanks!
Paul
Quote from: HC on January 26, 2015, 09:56:46 PM
What I liked best about this game, besides the fact that PantherU probably ate more hotdogs in the first half then his team had buckets, was that Valpo didn't let up nor did they play down an inferior opponent.
I was lurking their boards before the game and found a post that claimed that they texted "someone in the know" about the new Milwaukee Bucks arena and that they were going to build it on the current US Cellular land, despite the new owners already completely ruling out that site. Guess there's something in the water there.
I thought the crowd was pretty decent considering it was a Monday night. I hope they are getting a decent kickback from ESPN, these week night games are tough on families.
Can we beat Oakland? Sure, everyone beats Oakland when they don't play at Oakland.
Can we beat CSU twice? Probably.
Can we repay GB? Sure.
Valpo's defense is this good. They force teams to beat them with contested three pointers. Not a lot of teams want to win games that way.
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 26, 2015, 09:50:07 PM
Quote from: FWalum on January 26, 2015, 09:33:19 PM
Really surprised at this one. Other than the top four teams the HL seems to have a bunch of weak sisters who lack energy and intensity for the game. After the first five minutes it seemed like Milwaukee just folded their tent and went home. Thought Jeter would get more out of his guys.
who are the top 4?
CSU, Green Bay, us and Oakland. With 2 losses at CSU and at Detroit (who always gets up for that rivalry) and wins vs the top 3, Oakland might be legit.
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 26, 2015, 09:50:07 PMwho are the top 4?
Green Bay, Valpo, Cleveland State and at this time I would probably say Oakland.
Quote from: Valpofan00 on January 26, 2015, 08:29:37 PM
Agreed Ive always hated the under basket camera. It needs to be taken out.
A few of my under the basket camera shots: Skara's circus shot, Vashil's poster dunk, and Alec scoring 2 of his game-high 24 (in only 24 minutes of play). ;D
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What game were you watching? Valpo went up 7-0 and never looked back. When did
Quote from: agibson on January 26, 2015, 07:46:31 PMAlec had a look at a three to tie it there with about a minute left in the half. Couldn't get it to go.
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Quote from: a3uge on January 26, 2015, 09:10:54 PMDid Tiby even play the second half? I completely forgot about him.
Tiby went out at halftime and got a buzz cut and shaved his face. He looked like a third Prahl brother. ;)
I hated seeing Lexus on crutches again. Wish him well and a full recovery so he can bring his energy back onto the court by fall!
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Quote from: bbtds on January 26, 2015, 11:25:16 PM
What game were you watching? Valpo went up 7-0 and never looked back. When did Quote from: agibson on January 26, 2015, 07:46:31 PMAlec had a look at a three to tie it there with about a minute left in the half. Couldn't get it to go.
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Pretty sure this was a reference for Alec's first half total to tie Milwaukee's team total.
Quote from: valpopal on January 26, 2015, 11:42:07 PMI hated seeing Lexus on crutches again. Wish him well and a full recovery so he can bring his energy back onto the court by fall!
has there been any news on that front? dear Lord, I hope he didn't tear again!!
EDIT: do my own legwork:
QuoteNotes: Drew didn't have an update on Lexus Williams' reinjured left knee.
http://posttrib.chicagotribune.com/sports/32416155-556/mens-basketball-valparaiso-cruises-past-milwaukee.html#.VMdJ61pp-LA (http://posttrib.chicagotribune.com/sports/32416155-556/mens-basketball-valparaiso-cruises-past-milwaukee.html#.VMdJ61pp-LA)
Quote from: a3uge on January 26, 2015, 09:02:12 PMFor one, the guy on oakland stepped out of bounds, then Walker was clearly fouled... but traveling?
What's the Cleve St--Oakland game got to do with Walker being called for traveling? :-[
Fun game to watch, where I didn't have to watch every single play, since it was in hand so early on.
Skara's shot reminded me of KVW's circus shot from a few years ago. KVW's was better, but very similar. Vashil is just getting plain nasty on some of these alley-oops. He flushed that one down with authority, and it happened very quickly. His leaping ability is insane when he wants to 'fly high.'
Anyone else notice Adam Amin sitting next to Todd and Dave?
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Quote from: valpopal on January 26, 2015, 11:42:07 PMI hated seeing Lexus on crutches again. Wish him well and a full recovery so he can bring his energy back onto the court by fall!
has there been any news on that front? dear Lord, I hope he didn't tear again!!
EDIT: do my own legwork:
QuoteNotes: Drew didn't have an update on Lexus Williams' reinjured left knee.
http://posttrib.chicagotribune.com/sports/32416155-556/mens-basketball-valparaiso-cruises-past-milwaukee.html#.VMdJ61pp-LA (http://posttrib.chicagotribune.com/sports/32416155-556/mens-basketball-valparaiso-cruises-past-milwaukee.html#.VMdJ61pp-LA)
Lexus said that he broke his knee cap, a freak accident and unrelated to his earlier injury --other than the fact that it was the same knee. It will set him back four to six weeks.
OK, I live 360 miles away from campus and I could not attend - but these guys are playing very well with a respectable 19-4 record, and they only have 2100 at the game? You can't blame the weather. If a discussion of a new facility warrants serious thought, then more support for these guys is required.
I live 4 miles away. We went to the game and I was pleasantly surprised by how many people were there. These week night games are tough for families. I have an 8 year old and a 4 year old and we didn't make it home until 9 and we left with 4 minutes left.
I hope ESPN is kicking back some cash to make up for them having to play on these crappy weeknight games.
Wasn't at all surprised by this game. I though after a tough loss this group was going to come out and take out their frustrations. Which is exactly what happened.
We could easily win the HL tourney, hard to believe that we only lose Vashil and we get Lexus back (hopefully) as well with Hammink and Levingston plus a high recruit in Smits.
At the very worst this team should get an invite to the NIT, hoping for more but this team has already exceeded many peoples expectations.
Quote from: HC on January 27, 2015, 07:43:20 AMI live 4 miles away. We went to the game and I was pleasantly surprised by how many people were there. These week night games are tough for families. I have an 8 year old and a 4 year old and we didn't make it home until 9 and we left with 4 minutes left. I hope ESPN is kicking back some cash to make up for them having to play on these crappy weeknight games.
The schedule is brutal. Several teams will be on the road for 4-5 games straight at a time. I'm not a big fan of adding N.Kentucky but I desperately want travel partners and play the Friday/Sunday schedule.
Quote from: valpotx on January 27, 2015, 04:25:09 AMAnyone else notice Adam Amin sitting next to Todd and Dave?
Yes, I snapped a photo of Amin in attendance:
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Adam had posted on FB that this was his one opportunity to catch a home game... flew in from Raleigh last night. He'll be in Tallahassee on Sunday hoping for a FAST Florida State game to get back home in time for the Seahawks game. What a Life!
Quote from: usc4valpo on January 27, 2015, 06:56:53 AM
but these guys are playing very well with a respectable 19-4 record, and they only have 2100 at the game? You can't blame the weather.
It's got to make a difference on the margin. 10%? Not a lot of accumulation, but definitely a more intense snow shower than I expected, and right before the game.
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Quote from: bbtds on January 26, 2015, 11:25:16 PM
What game were you watching? Valpo went up 7-0 and never looked back. When did Quote from: agibson on January 26, 2015, 07:46:31 PMAlec had a look at a three to tie it there with about a minute left in the half. Couldn't get it to go.
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Pretty sure this was a reference for Alec's first half total to tie Milwaukee's team total.
That's it. He led them for much of the half.
Funnier quip if experienced in the moment?
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Admittedly, when you spend minutes on the bench, you shouldn't be _too_ surprised if the other team outscores you.
Just 24 minutes? 14 in the first half. UMW got 20!
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Quote from: talksalot on January 24, 2015, 08:42:25 PMWe will no longer have Lights Out for player introductions (Not possible in the ARC to bring the lights up in a timely manner)
A big thank you from all the photographers. :thumbsup: Actually, following darkness for intros the lights usually do not reach full strength until after the first media timeout with about 15:00 left in the opening half. I sometimes wonder if that influences early game shooting of basketballs the way it influences shooting photos.
The lighting was remarkably better at the beginning of the game, which seemed to help Valpo's shooting (not so much for Milwaukee) leading to a 30-5 opening. ::)
Guys, my bad. It was 51 deg in Des Moines yesterday, I did not know that there was a snowstorm in Valpo yesterday.
Please accept my apologies.
Quote from: usc4valpo on January 27, 2015, 10:28:58 AM
Guys, my bad. It was 51 deg in Des Moines yesterday, I did not know that there was a snowstorm in Valpo yesterday.
Please accept my apologies.
It's supposed to be near 60 tomorrow as well!
Quote from: usc4valpo on January 27, 2015, 10:28:58 AM
Guys, my bad. It was 51 deg in Des Moines yesterday, I did not know that there was a snowstorm in Valpo yesterday.
Please accept my apologies.
Not a storm per say but there was an inch of snow on the car when I left the game and I had to brush it off when I left work at 5. Conditions were slick but not hazardous.
Wondering how Tevonn is feeling today. He had a great start to the game, but was not the same player after he got tagged in the face with the Tiby elbow. Really surprised that replay was not looked at after he was knocked to the floor.
yeesh. wouldn't be the first Tiby, uh, fractured...
Quote from: talksalot on January 27, 2015, 08:43:00 AM
Adam had posted on FB that this was his one opportunity to catch a home game... flew in from Raleigh last night. He'll be in Tallahassee on Sunday hoping for a FAST Florida State game to get back home in time for the Seahawks game. What a Life!
Good for him! I'm sure he has put in many hours to get these opportunities.
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Quote from: valpo4life on January 27, 2015, 12:03:18 AM
Quote from: bbtds on January 26, 2015, 11:25:16 PM
What game were you watching? Valpo went up 7-0 and never looked back. When did Quote from: agibson on January 26, 2015, 07:46:31 PMAlec had a look at a three to tie it there with about a minute left in the half. Couldn't get it to go.
? ? ?
Pretty sure this was a reference for Alec's first half total to tie Milwaukee's team total.
That's it. He led them for much of the half.
Funnier quip if experienced in the moment?
Sorry, didn't notice the timing of the comment. Just me, but I would have said "tie Alec with Milwaukee" instead of "tie it."
Quote from: bbtds on January 27, 2015, 12:25:45 PMSorry, didn't notice the timing of the comment. Just me, but I would have said "tie Alec with Milwaukee" instead of "tie it."
That sounds too clear. It _was_ supposed to be a joke ;)
Quote from: agibson on January 27, 2015, 03:57:54 PM
Quote from: bbtds on January 27, 2015, 12:25:45 PMSorry, didn't notice the timing of the comment. Just me, but I would have said "tie Alec with Milwaukee" instead of "tie it."
That sounds too clear. It _was_ supposed to be a joke ;)
...and that is the reason for emoticons--smiley faces. Intent can not be garnered from text.
Call it dry humor? Beauty, of course, may be in the eye of the beholder.
I have now posted a gallery of photos from the game at the following link: enjoy! https://www.flickr.com/photos/96208998@N05/sets/72157648175999564/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96208998@N05/sets/72157648175999564/)
Monday night's press conference. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=84838260&v=udDyng2aaVA&x-yt-ts=1422327029)